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  • Combat Ready
    Foot Soldier
    • Mar 2007
    • 572

    Byrd: Obama in power grab

    By JOHN BRESNAHAN | 2/25/09 10:34 AM EST

    Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), the longest-serving Democratic senator, is criticizing President Obama’s appointment of White House “czars” to oversee federal policy, saying these executive positions amount to a power grab by the executive branch.

    In a letter to Obama on Wednesday, Byrd complained about Obama’s decision to create White House offices on health reform, urban affairs policy, and energy and climate change. Byrd said such positions “can threaten the Constitutional system of checks and balances. At the worst, White House staff have taken direction and control of programmatic areas that are the statutory responsibility of Senate-confirmed officials.”

    While it's rare for Byrd to criticize a president in his own party, Byrd is a stern constitutional scholar who has always stood up for the legislative branch in its role in checking the power of the White House. Byrd no longer holds the powerful Appropriations chairmanship, so his criticism does not carry as much weight these days. Byrd repeatedly clashed with the Bush administration over executive power, and it appears that he's not limiting his criticism to Republican administrations.
    Byrd also wants Obama to limit claims of executive privilege while also ensuring that the White House czars don’t have authority over Cabinet officers confirmed by the Senate.

    “As presidential assistants and advisers, these White House staffers are not accountable for their actions to the Congress, to cabinet officials, and to virtually anyone but the president,” Byrd wrote. “They rarely testify before congressional committees, and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege. In too many instances, White House staff have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability.”
    The West Virginia Democrat on Wednesday asked Obama to “consider the following: that assertions of executive privilege will be made only by the president, or with the president’s specific approval; that senior White House personnel will be limited from exercising authority over any person, any program, and any funding within the statutory responsibility of a Senate-confirmed department or agency head; that the president will be responsible for resolving any disagreement between a Senate-confirmed agency or department head and White House staff; and that the lines of authority and responsibility in the administration will be transparent and open to the American public.”
    Obama faces a decision as early as next week on whether to support a claim of executive privilege made by former President Bush in refusing to allow Karl Rove, the former deputy White House chief of staff, to be deposed by the House Judiciary Committee on the White House’s role in the 2006 firing of nine U.S. attorneys.

    Bush claimed “absolute immunity” for top advisers in resisting such subpoenas, but Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, filed a lawsuit over the issue. The case is on appeal, and the Obama administration is scheduled to file a motion next week laying out its stance on the issue.

  • swage33
    Head Fluffer
    • Jan 2009
    • 311

    #2
    Here you see the true nature of power. ANY precedent will be accepted as norm by the successor. Morals, standards, principles go out the window. Will watch this closely...a virtuous man would set the "wrongs" right. A corrupt man will take advantage of precedent.
    High quality hate while you wait

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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32555

      #3
      Originally posted by swage33

      ...a virtuous man would set the "wrongs" right.

      .
      So The Bush Administration should be held accountable by The Obama Administration for any War Crimes, Crimes against The State, or any other wrongdoing?

      Nice to have you on the record.

      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • swage33
        Head Fluffer
        • Jan 2009
        • 311

        #4
        Wrongs was in quotation. As long as you are recording....I like big butts and I cannot lie, you other brothers can't deny, I'll have a 12 inch club on white....provolone with that, a little mayo, lettuce and tomato. No, I don't want a fucking cookie...just the sandwich. Kids, don't drink and post.
        High quality hate while you wait

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58754

          #5
          Originally posted by swage33
          Here you see the true nature of power. ANY precedent will be accepted as norm by the successor. Morals, standards, principles go out the window. Will watch this closely...a virtuous man would set the "wrongs" right. A corrupt man will take advantage of precedent.
          We need to get Sam & Al in here, Stat!

          And no, I don't mean the Ched Rocker and Eddie's brother........



          ....And so Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from life to life; striving to put right what once went wrong. And hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap back to the time before the BCE destroyed the middle class.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            Originally posted by swage33
            As long as you are recording....
            I bet you Bush is wishing these weren't recorded..............

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            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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            • Combat Ready
              Foot Soldier
              • Mar 2007
              • 572

              #7
              Originally posted by kwame k
              I bet you Bush is wishing these weren't recorded..............

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              Funny stuff K...But, what does that have to do with Byrd's assertion of an Obama administration power grab?

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              • jhale667
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                #8
                Sorry, but "Constitutional Scholar" and "Former Klansman"? Just does not compute. Byrd's a douche-nozzle who had to find some way to complain...
                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

                Icon.
                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??:eek:

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                Originally posted by eddie78
                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • Combat Ready
                  Foot Soldier
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 572

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jhale667
                  Sorry, but "Constitutional Scholar" and "Former Klansman"? Just does not compute. Byrd's a douche-nozzle who had to find some way to complain...
                  100&#37; agreed wack-job he is. It must be noted that he is the Democrats' senior Senator....Not Obama's opposition party by any means.
                  Last edited by Combat Ready; 02-26-2009, 01:35 AM.

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                  • Andy Taylor
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 918

                    #10
                    Originally posted by swage33
                    Here you see the true nature of power. ANY precedent will be accepted as norm by the successor. Morals, standards, principles go out the window. Will watch this closely...a virtuous man would set the "wrongs" right. A corrupt man will take advantage of precedent.

                    I'd like to see if Obama will give up those powers that Bush grabbed for the presidentship. His staff have already said anyway that they're not concentrating on going after the Bush reich and their crimes. So I would imagine that the bonuses that Bush got will never be brought up, it's safely out of people's minds.

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58754

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jhale667
                      Sorry, but "Constitutional Scholar" and "Former Klansman"? Just does not compute. Byrd's a douche-nozzle who had to find some way to complain...
                      I'll never excuse Byrd's past associations with racist shitbags, but he was one of the few voices in the Senate who stood up to Chimpy's abuses of power and constitution shredding for the last 8 years.

                      Hopefully his concerns about the new administration are consistent with the latter and not the former.
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • Combat Ready
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 572

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        I'll never excuse Byrd's past associations with racist shitbags, but he was one of the few voices in the Senate who stood up to Chimpy's abuses of power and constitution shredding for the last 8 years.

                        Hopefully his concerns about the new administration are consistent with the latter and not the former.
                        Associations? He was/is the shitbag:

                        In 1948, Byrd opposed President Truman's initiative to integrate the Armed Forces - and he did so using the language of a very much active Klansman.

                        The powerful Senate Democrat vowed then that he would "never submit to fight beneath that banner (the American flag) with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49136

                          #13
                          Byrd was in the Klan in like the 1930s. I think that part is irrelevant at this point...

                          And the above Freeper article also leaves out that most racist southerners (i.e Strom Thurman) became Republicans by the 1970s, something the GOP has relied on to elect their last three presidents...
                          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-26-2009, 02:14 PM.

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                          • Combat Ready
                            Foot Soldier
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 572

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            Byrd was in the Klan in like the 1930s. I think that part is irrelevant at this point...

                            And the above Freeper article also leaves out that most racist southerners (i.e Strom Thurman) became Republicans by the 1970s, something the GOP has relied on to elect their last three presidents...
                            Agreed. Got a little side tracked there.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58754

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Combat Ready
                              Agreed. Got a little side tracked there.
                              That happens when you quote RimJob's Digital Trailer Park (a.k.a. Freak Republic) as a source.

                              There's more racist hatred on that website than at the Klan meetings Byrd attended 60 years ago.
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