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cadaverdog
03-01-2009, 07:07 PM
Not refering to the Dave/ VH split but what do you think of artists
(usually singers) that make the scene in a band but when it's
obvious they're the star ditch the band.
Some come back and reunite with their bands but some just
turn their backs on the very people who helped them become
stars.
One of the worst was Jon Fogarty.
What a dick.
He couldn't even play his one music for years just to spite his band mates all because they wanted a little input on the music.
He let them have a say on one album and instead of just saying I told you so.
He took a walk .
And one guy was his brother.
His brother had the last word though.
He told Jon on his deathbed right before he died the manager that kept
Jon Fogarty from his one music was his best friend.

chefcraig
03-01-2009, 11:24 PM
Fascinating. No, not the story of John Fogerty, yet how you could possibly get so many details wrong, including the spelling of the fellow's name.

The truth is, John Fogerty was screwed and sued not only by talent-free former sidemen looking to gain a paycheck, yet by his own management as well. Rather than perform Creedence tunes to which he would not gain a penny, he (rightly) refrained from doing so. This absurdity reached it's nadir when Fogerty was sued in court for plagiarizing himself by Saul Zaentz, the head of his former record company when Fogerty released the album Centerfield in the mid-eighties.

Please, if you are going to offer evidence of "Ingrates" in the future, here's a suggestion or two: For one, get your facts straight. Another would be to post them in a coherent, readable manner. After your "What a dick" comment, what you posted was nebulous at best.

LoungeMachine
03-02-2009, 12:30 AM
Nice to see others notice what gibberish this clown posts....

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03-02-2009, 12:43 AM
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Blaze
03-02-2009, 12:46 AM
Fascinating. No, not the story of John Fogerty, yet how you could possibly get so many details wrong, including the spelling of the fellow's name.

The truth is, John Fogerty was screwed and sued not only by talent-free former sidemen looking to gain a paycheck, yet by his own management as well. Rather than perform Creedence tunes to which he would not gain a penny, he (rightly) refrained from doing so. This absurdity reached it's nadir when Fogerty was sued in court for plagiarizing himself by Saul Zaentz, the head of his former record company when Fogerty released the album Centerfield in the mid-eighties.

Please, if you are going to offer evidence of "Ingrates" in the future, here's a suggestion or two: For one, get your facts straight. Another would be to post them in a coherent, readable manner. After your "What a dick" comment, what you posted was nebulous at best.

That is insane! Makes me a bit angered, a bit motivated, and a bit bloodthirsty. Just a bit. but those bit, there have been a lot of bits popping up and garnering. Starting to draw some ere.

Diamondjimi
03-02-2009, 02:15 AM
One of the worst was Jon Fogarty.
What a dick.
He couldn't even play his one music for years just to spite his band mates all because they wanted a little input on the music.
He let them have a say on one album and instead of just saying I told you so.
He took a walk .
And one guy was his brother.
His brother had the last word though.
He told Jon on his deathbed right before he died the manager that kept
Jon Fogarty from his one music was his best friend.

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hideyoursheep
03-02-2009, 02:30 AM
That is insane! Makes me a bit angered, a bit motivated, and a bit bloodthirsty. Just a bit. but those bit, there have been a lot of bits popping up and garnering. Starting to draw some ere.

Please translate.

My troll decoder ring is out of batteries.

Blaze
03-02-2009, 02:32 AM
Please translate.

My troll decoder ring is out of batteries.

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03-02-2009, 02:38 AM
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cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 03:26 AM
Fascinating. No, not the story of John Fogerty, yet how you could possibly get so many details wrong, including the spelling of the fellow's name.

The truth is, John Fogerty was screwed and sued not only by talent-free former sidemen looking to gain a paycheck, yet by his own management as well. Rather than perform Creedence tunes to which he would not gain a penny, he (rightly) refrained from doing so. This absurdity reached it's nadir when Fogerty was sued in court for plagiarizing himself by Saul Zaentz, the head of his former record company when Fogerty released the album Centerfield in the mid-eighties.

Please, if you are going to offer evidence of "Ingrates" in the future, here's a suggestion or two: For one, get your facts straight. Another would be to post them in a coherent, readable manner. After your "What a dick" comment, what you posted was nebulous at best.
I heard from Fogarty himself ( mispelled or not)on the radio.
He wanted to call all the shots and the band wanted to have some
input.
He finally gave in and when the album tanked he took a hike.
That's why they sued and the manager ended up with the rights.
I agree it was fact he was sued later .
Talent free sidemen?
They were his band , He wasn't a solo act.
He turned his back on them.
He was and is an ingrate.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 03:33 AM
Fascinating. No, not the story of John Fogerty, yet how you could possibly get so many details wrong, including the spelling of the fellow's name.

The truth is, John Fogerty was screwed and sued not only by talent-free former sidemen looking to gain a paycheck, yet by his own management as well. Rather than perform Creedence tunes to which he would not gain a penny, he (rightly) refrained from doing so. This absurdity reached it's nadir when Fogerty was sued in court for plagiarizing himself by Saul Zaentz, the head of his former record company when Fogerty released the album Centerfield in the mid-eighties.

Please, if you are going to offer evidence of "Ingrates" in the future, here's a suggestion or two: For one, get your facts straight. Another would be to post them in a coherent, readable manner. After your "What a dick" comment, what you posted was nebulous at best.
Same old tactics here .
Disagree on the facts ( right or wrong ) and you're an idiot.
I interpreted my facts from a fairly recent radio interview
when he was explaining how he lost the rights to the Creedance songs.
If you have another source , fanfuckingtastic.

Panamark
03-02-2009, 06:30 AM
All I remember about this shit was when JF released that song
"The old man is down the road" (I think thats what it was called)
I remember singing "Better run through the jungle" in my head,
and thinking.......... Old Fog's has finally found a way to release
that creedence stuff without having to pay the band.... lol..

Just a subtle note change here and there, new set of lyrics,
and away we go !!!

GreenBayLA
03-02-2009, 07:48 AM
I immediately thought of STING!

chefcraig
03-02-2009, 10:07 AM
I heard from Fogarty himself ( mispelled or not)on the radio.
He wanted to call all the shots and the band wanted to have some
input.
He finally gave in and when the album tanked he took a hike.
That's why they sued and the manager ended up with the rights.
I agree it was fact he was sued later .
Talent free sidemen?
They were his band , He wasn't a solo act.
He turned his back on them.
He was and is an ingrate.


Same old tactics here .
Disagree on the facts ( right or wrong ) and you're an idiot.
I interpreted my facts from a fairly recent radio interview
when he was explaining how he lost the rights to the Creedance songs.
If you have another source , fanfuckingtastic.

Swell. Then why didn't you offer these so-called facts originally? You know, when you started the thread in the first place? His "one music"? This may come as a surprise to you, yet not everyone is drinking Nyquil when they come to this site, and as a result may have some difficulty interpreting your meaning. In other words, do not blame me (or others) when you fail to express yourself in a lucid manner.

LoungeMachine
03-02-2009, 11:24 AM
Same old tactics here .
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FORD
03-02-2009, 12:23 PM
John Fogerty WAS Creedence. End of fucking story.

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WARF
03-02-2009, 12:23 PM
Shouldn't this thread be titled, "inbred" instead?

kwame k
03-02-2009, 06:55 PM
I swear to God C-Dog....you start these type of threads to stir up shit and get attention.

First off Tom Fogerty left the group before John did. Second, John told the band on their last album that he would not sing their songs and nothing else. John Fogerty wrote all the songs, up till the last album and was sued by the members of the band and management, lost the rights to his songs and never played them again till the 90's. His own brother sued him and stabbed him in the back, not the other way around. The entire band and management screwed John out of the rights to his music.

Even when John went to make peace with his brother, on his death bed, his brother still started shit about the lawsuit. John was there to make peace and his brother said something to the effect he was glad he sued him.

So how is John the asshole?

LoungeMachine
03-02-2009, 07:32 PM
I swear to God C-Dog....you start these type of threads to stir up shit and get attention.




Yep.

And they always start the same fucking way, too.

Wrong information, bizarre presumptions, and fucked up "logic"


And then he gets all pissy and defensive and cries when everyone rips his premise apart.

As if it's OUR fault his threads suck ass.

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
03-02-2009, 07:35 PM
He couldn't even play his one music for years just to spite his band mates all because they wanted a little input on the music.


.

Forgetting for a moment the terrible sentence structure....

This "fact" is pure bullshit, and not even remotely close to the actual events.

:gulp:

FORD
03-02-2009, 08:19 PM
The first time John Fogerty played any CCR songs live after the breakup was at an AIDS benefit concert in Oakland in 1989, backed by Jerry Garcia & Bobby Weir of the Grateful Dead, Steve Jordan of the Xpensive Winos, and Randy Jackson of....... American Idol???

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FORD
03-02-2009, 08:28 PM
Funny thing about the clips from that show is how happy Jerry Garcia looks playing the material. The "perfect 3 minute singles" that Creedence was known for being practically a polar opposite of the typical Grateful Dead approach to music. Endless jams and all that.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:18 PM
I swear to God C-Dog....you start these type of threads to stir up shit and get attention.

First off Tom Fogerty left the group before John did. Second, John told the band on their last album that he would not sing their songs and nothing else. John Fogerty wrote all the songs, up till the last album and was sued by the members of the band and management, lost the rights to his songs and never played them again till the 90's. His own brother sued him and stabbed him in the back, not the other way around. The entire band and management screwed John out of the rights to his music.

Even when John went to make peace with his brother, on his death bed, his brother still started shit about the lawsuit. John was there to make peace and his brother said something to the effect he was glad he sued him.

So how is John the asshole?
Where do you get off (and your buttbuddies ) making statements like this.
If you don't agree with what I say this makes me a shit disturber.
I heard the story from Fogerty's own mouth.
He was reflecting on the end of Creedance and I felt he was actually
admitting he had a lot to do with the bands breakup.
He walked because they challenged his leadership of the band.
By the way , Tom's deathbed statement was about Saenz being
his best friend.
Tom obviosly felt betrayed by his brothers actions and took the bands
side in the situation.
I see you're still kissing that ass.
Good luck with that.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:24 PM
I immediately thought of STING!

Iwas actually thinking of Sting myself but he did reunite wth the other
Police.

But I stand by my Fogerty story.
From his interview I saw a guy who was too controlling over his
bandmates.
Whether he had the talent or not It was the whole band playing
the songs.
It wasn't Fogerty and hired guns.

kwame k
03-02-2009, 11:30 PM
Where do you get off (and your buttbuddies ) making statements like this.
If you don't agree with what I say this makes me a shit disturber.
I heard the story from Fogerty's own mouth.
He was reflecting on the end of Creedance and I felt he was actually
admitting he had a lot to do with the bands breakup.
He walked because they challenged his leadership of the band.
By the way , Tom's deathbed statement was about Saenz being
his best friend.
Tom obviosly felt betrayed by his brothers actions and took the bands
side in the situation.
I see you're still kissing that ass.
Good luck with that.

Fuck off, gump! Start a bullshit thread, get your ass handed to you and whine. Typical attention whore, troll bullshit.

Don't agree with you? No, the facts don't agree with you. Then you get pissy when you get called out on it. Jesus, you're too predictable.

No wait.....you'll say that's not what you meant or you misunderstood me or try to pull one remark and run with that as justification for your whole premise, as to why you are right.

If one person calls you an asshole, tell them to fuck off.
If two people call you an asshole, still tell them to fuck off but start thinking they may have something.
If an entire message board calls you an asshole.......well, the people have spoken.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:32 PM
Swell. Then why didn't you offer these so-called facts originally? You know, when you started the thread in the first place? His "one music"? This may come as a surprise to you, yet not everyone is drinking Nyquil when they come to this site, and as a result may have some difficulty interpreting your meaning. In other words, do not blame me (or others) when you fail to express yourself in a lucid manner.
First you say I'm wrong now I'm misunderstood.
Why is it that to post your opinions here you have to present them
as if they were being graded?
I can understand disagreeing with someones opinion but why the constant
lectures about spelling and grammer?
Even people who are completely illiterate can have an opinion.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:39 PM
Yep.

And they always start the same fucking way, too.

Wrong information, bizarre presumptions, and fucked up "logic"


And then he gets all pissy and defensive and cries when everyone rips his premise apart.

As if it's OUR fault his threads suck ass.

:gulp:
As usuall the only thing you have to add is insults.
No basis for why you disagree you just do.
You are an expert on everything.
Do you have anything to offer on why I'm wrong?
If you did you'd state it.
But that's not your m.o.
Not one person has posted any facts contradicting me premise.
You're full of shit as usuall.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:46 PM
Swell. Then why didn't you offer these so-called facts originally? You know, when you started the thread in the first place? His "one music"? This may come as a surprise to you, yet not everyone is drinking Nyquil when they come to this site, and as a result may have some difficulty interpreting your meaning. In other words, do not blame me (or others) when you fail to express yourself in a lucid manner.
My statement should have said his own music.
He chose to walk away and not honor a contact he had signed.
He has only himself to blame.
And I think it was all because he was too controlling .

LoungeMachine
03-02-2009, 11:46 PM
Even people who are completely illiterate can have an opinion.





You're proof positive of that.


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Why is the board always wrong, and you're always right in these situations where you get your ass handed to you?

always.

:gulp:

kwame k
03-02-2009, 11:55 PM
My statement should have said his own music.
He chose to walk away and not honor a contact he had signed.
He has only himself to blame.
And I think it was all because he was too controlling .

No you should of looked up your facts......here you going changing your original premise, to try and deflect again. John lost the rights to the music he wrote.......all the songs he wrote are what made CCR huge.

What contract did he walk away from? Can you give an example? Controlling? The guy wrote, sang and played on all their hits, period.


Of course you won't. You'll just ramble off on some other tangent and totally ignore the facts because you even know you are talking out your ass at this point and no amount of subterfuge can change what you have posted.

cadaverdog
03-02-2009, 11:57 PM
Fuck off, gump! Start a bullshit thread, get your ass handed to you and whine. Typical attention whore, troll bullshit.

Don't agree with you? No, the facts don't agree with you. Then you get pissy when you get called out on it. Jesus, you're too predictable.

No wait.....you'll say that's not what you meant or you misunderstood me or try to pull one remark and run with that as justification for your whole premise, as to why you are right.

If one person calls you an asshole, tell them to fuck off.
If two people call you an asshole, still tell them to fuck off but start thinking they may have something.
If an entire message board calls you an asshole.......well, the people have spoken.
Fuck you .too.
You have stated nothing to contradict my assertions.
Even if I was wrong , In your feeble mind my whole intention was to
start shit.
You disproven nothing.
All you can say is you're wrong.
I guess if that's all you've got go with it.

By the way I love the way you kicked the Rothfans people to
the curb because Lounge chose to quit posting there.
I never saw anyone there say one thing negative to you.
You've earned the title brown noser.
Are you even capable of independant thought ?

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 12:08 AM
No you should of looked up your facts......here you going changing your original premise, to try and deflect again. John lost the rights to the music he wrote.......all the songs he wrote are what made CCR huge.

What contract did he walk away from? Can you give an example? Controlling? The guy wrote, sang and played on all their hits, period.


Of course you won't. You'll just ramble off on some other tangent and totally ignore the facts because you even know you are talking out your ass at this point and no amount of subterfuge can change what you have posted.

How the fuck do you think he lost the rights to his own music?
He walked away from his commitments and obviouslly a judge
agreed.
In his own words he would only play his songs.
No other members of the band were alowed to submit any input.
If he was a solo act that would be fine.
But they were a band.
But he wanted to be the judge and jury on everything.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:13 AM
Fuck you .too.
You have stated nothing to contradict my assertions.
Even if I was wrong , In your feeble mind my whole intention was to
start shit.
You disproven nothing.
All you can say is you're wrong.
I guess if that's all you've got go with it.

By the way I love the way you kicked the Rothfans people to
the curb because Lounge chose to quit posting there.
I never saw anyone there say one thing negative to you.
You've earned the title brown noser.
Are you even capable of independant thought ?

Nice deflection, troll. Where's your facts? You called John and asshole and a dick. Back it up. Prove it. You started this thread, own it. Give me some links or quotes. We know you won't because that's not your style. You offer a bullshit premise and don't have the balls to back it up. Back it up. Right now. Stop your troll bullshit and back it up with facts.

You can't and you won't. Come on tough guy.

Funny C-dog, you whine about people attacking you and not what your thread is about but yet, you attack me about shit that has nothing to do with why John is an asshole. So, it's OK for you to do it just not anyone else? Again, anything to deflect away from the fact that you have no ground to stand on.

Maybe we should pull up all the lies you've told here and start a C-dog is a fucking lying, attention whore thread.

Oh, I left MaxiPad's because of Lounge........priceless. I guess you win! Since I left there that must make the fucking bullshit you spewed in this thread true.

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 12:15 AM
Forgetting for a moment the terrible sentence structure....

This "fact" is pure bullshit, and not even remotely close to the actual events.

:gulp:
I guess Kwames full of shit , too.
He previously posted Fogerty refused to play any other band members
songs.
That goes to my statement that he wouldn't allow any input .
I'm sure you have an answer to that , too.
You know everything.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:20 AM
I guess Kwames full of shit , too.
He previously posted Fogerty refused to play any other band members
songs.
That goes to my statement that he wouldn't allow any input .
I'm sure you have an answer to that , too.
You know everything.

Boy, you really are fucking stupid and can't comprehend. He wouldn't sing the songs the other members wrote. Played on them but wouldn't sing them. Out of all the troll fucks on these boards, you just might be the dumbest. Keep fishing and taking other people's words out of context.


Come on! Use that search function on google and back up your thread.
Bet you won't.

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 12:22 AM
Nice deflection, troll. Where's your facts? You called John and asshole and a dick. Back it up. Prove it. You started this thread, own it. Give me some links or quotes. We know you won't because that's not your style. You offer a bullshit premise and don't have the balls to back it up. Back it up. Right now. Stop your troll bullshit and back it up with facts.

You can't and you won't. Come on tough guy.

Funny C-dog, you whine about people attacking you and not what your thread is about but yet, you attack me about shit that has nothing to do with why John is an asshole. So, it's OK for you to do it just not anyone else? Again, anything to deflect away from the fact that you have no ground to stand on.

Maybe we should pull up all the lies you've told here and start a C-dog is a fucking lying, attention whore thread.

Oh, I left MaxiPad's because of Lounge........priceless. I guess you win! Since I left there that must make the fucking bullshit you spewed in this thread true.

Pull up anything you want to prove I lied about anything.
You left Rothfans because they picked on your buttbuddy.
You were always welcome there.
As far as a link to my facts.
It was from a radio interview.
I can't prove it.
Where's your proof I'm wrong.
That's right you don't need to prove it .
You're never wrong.
Just like yor buttbuddy.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:23 AM
Not refering to the Dave/ VH split but what do you think of artists
(usually singers) that make the scene in a band but when it's
obvious they're the star ditch the band.
Some come back and reunite with their bands but some just
turn their backs on the very people who helped them become
stars.
One of the worst was Jon Fogarty.
What a dick.He couldn't even play his one music for years just to spite his band mates all because they wanted a little input on the music.
He let them have a say on one album and instead of just saying I told you so.
He took a walk .
And one guy was his brother.
His brother had the last word though.
He told Jon on his deathbed right before he died the manager that kept
Jon Fogarty from his one music was his best friend.


Back up your thread C-dog.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:29 AM
Pull up anything you want to prove I lied about anything.
You left Rothfans because they picked on your buttbuddy.
You were always welcome there.
As far as a link to my facts.
It was from a radio interview.
I can't prove it.

Stay on topic, gump. We know you can't prove it because it isn't true. Your thread, prove me wrong. Do some research.


Where's your proof I'm wrong.
That's right you don't need to prove it .
You're never wrong.
Just like yor buttbuddy

I have all the proof I need and have read the interviews about this subject. You haven't and now are saying a radio interview is the only place he ever said this.

Again, what does me leaving MaxiPads have to do with this thread. Nice deflection.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:43 AM
Here troll fuck. I guess I'll have to do your reseach for you.


If music industry veterans were to count the miracles of 2005, somewhere near the top of the list had to be John Fogerty's renewed involvement with Fantasy Records and the release of The Long Road Home: The Ultimate John Fogerty -- Creedence Collection.

Fogerty's return to the label follows a lengthy, well-publicized and downright nasty legal dispute with Fantasy's former Saul Zaentz, who acquired the company during CCR's heyday. And what a heyday it was: A string of American music classics including "Proud Mary," "Bad Moon Rising," "Who'll Stop the Rain," "Green River" and "Lodi," just to name a few. In 1969, the band sold more records than the Beatles.

After creating some of rock 'n' roll's most enduring music, however, Fogerty's bitterness over royalties and Zaentz's ownership of his songs caused him to go more than two decades without performing any of the material he had written, sung and recorded as CCR's leader. After an epiphany at Robert Johnson's gravesite, Fogerty finally started playing the old songs again in the '90s -- much to the delight of his longtime fans.

In 2004, Fantasy was purchased by the Concord Music Group, whose owners include legendary television producer Norman Lear. Comfortable with the company's leadership and pleased by an improved business arrangement, Fogerty is clearly happy with the release of the 25-song The Long Road Home, the first CD to feature CCR hits alongside his solo material, including the 1985 hit, "Centerfield."

Fogerty may never totally get over his feelings toward Fantasy's old regime. However, in a recent phone interview with CMT.com, the cheerful, upbeat tone of his voice seems to indicate that he's more comfortable than ever with the past.

CMT: Through the years, you were involved in several contracts with Fantasy Records, but weren't you still a teenager when you signed your first deal with them?

Fogerty: When I walked in the door there for the first time, I was 18 years old, and I believe we probably signed a contract then or maybe at 19. Then again, there was a later signing, and that's what basically did me in.

Most musicians can't see any farther than getting their first record released. Was that pretty much your attitude to begin with?

Oh, yeah. The first one [contract], especially, in that weird way, that sort of sense of denial that children go through. When you're young, you think you're immortal, right? They're gonna live forever, and you can't tell them anything. I'm sure I had big doses of that. As you say, it's all important to just have that guy's attention right now. (laughs) If some big guy at a record company is going to put your record out, boy, you don't want them to forget about it before he goes on to something else. So you're just thinking that everything will be solved if you can just get this record out. And then, hopefully, it will be a hit, and everyone will smile and take you more seriously.

The music industry wasn't nearly as sophisticated back in the '60s and early '70s. It seems like a lot of artists really had no one trustworthy to turn to when it came to handling their business affairs.

Oh, that was certainly the boat we were in. We didn't have access. We didn't really have a lawyer, like a plumber in the family that you just call up every time the pipes break. We didn't have that at all. [CCR bassist] Stu Cook's father was a lawyer, nothing to do with the music industry at all. ... Stu was supposed to show the contract to his dad. But like all young people, I think he really didn't. I think he just came back and told us, "My dad says it's OK to sign." ... The first contracts were signed in that spirit of, "Well, gosh, we'll sign this so we can get our record released."

For the later ones, just to give you an insight, the earlier contract was under the first ownership of Fantasy Records. And then Saul Zaentz and some partners purchased Fantasy Records somewhere around October of 1967. Saul was the sales representative during the early days when we were walking in there as teenagers. He was the only one who didn't speak in beatnik talk. Everybody else there were kind of old beatniks from the early '50s.

Fantasy was a jazz label.

They were jazzbos. That was kind of their world, where Saul seemed more from the business world, at least. So we regarded him as our friend.

[Editor's note: When the phone call is temporarily disrupted by static on the line, Fogerty laughs and jokes, "The heavens just came unglued when I said, 'We regarded Saul as our friend.'"]

Anyway, that was the truth at that time. So when Saul purchased the company, we trusted him. Which is the unfortunate truth. We thought we were all in there on the ground floor. ... Again, not having access to a lawyer, because a lawyer probably would have said, "Whoa, let's make sure we've got all these things we're talking about in writing." Of course, none of them were.

All told, can you estimate how much the legal dispute with Fantasy has cost you?

I can only just say, "In millions." Literally, probably tens of millions of dollars. It's so big. And for a guy who came up as a lower middle class kid ... so much of that money just went to Fantasy instead of going to me. ... And also, as artists, we were at the bottom of the barrel as far as what we were paid. All of that money went to Fantasy. ... The most crushing part, the part that was very hard -- that was worse for my career and for my personal life -- was that I still owed them so many records after Creedence broke up. All the other members were set free immediately, but I was retained. And so this thing stretched out into my future, basically for the rest of my life. That was the part that just crushed me. ... Immediately after Creedence broke up in '72, they informed me, "We have the rights to your recordings in the future." It was basically 36 masters -- plus 10 -- if I remember this correct -- every year.

Good Lord!

That means tracks. That means songs. Thirty-six, plus 10. I still owed them five more years of that. So if you add that up, 46 tracks is probably more than four albums, at least at the way Creedence was making them. We usually had about seven or eight tracks on our records. To come up suddenly with 46 of them, that's something huge. They had a provision that for any year that I didn't provide those, the unprovided tracks slid over into the obligation for the next year. And if I didn't provide it in that year, then it all slid over into the next year. So I basically saw myself going on for 28 or 30 years, something like that. It was undoable. At some point, I just caved in. I melted down. At about 1973, I went in [and said], "I can't do this. It's so oppressive. My brain can't ... I'm not writing songs anymore. I'm thinking about this."
This was an extremely public battle. Do you think the publicity has changed things for the better in the music business?

I suppose. I just hope that young guys think, specifically. Unfortunately, you never think that those people in the room with you are the guys that might turn out to be your worst enemy. You're standing there going, "Oh, yeah, we all understand. We're gonna do these things." But if it is not written down in the way that you're just talking about it -- that means you have to go get your lawyer that represents you, not his lawyer that represents him. You've got to treat it much more like divorced couples go through things. Suddenly, even though they were lovers and best friends, now they're enemies.

The liner notes of the new CD talk about you coming to terms with performing the old songs while you were visiting the Mississippi Delta. Was that like a bolt of lightning, or did it take some time for the idea to sink in?

It was exactly like a bolt of lightning. This happened in 1990. I ended up taking several trips into Mississippi, just wandering around the way a guy would who was writing a book. I was acting much more like that. When I first went, I didn't even know why. I kept getting this sort of urge. I always say it's sort of like the guy in Close Encounters of the Third Kind when he's building the mashed potatoes on his dining room table, and he doesn't know why he keeps humming these notes to himself. (laughs) So I finally started going to Mississippi, and I basically landed with no plan. But I eventually started buying a lot of music and doing a lot of reading, mostly about the old blues guys. That seemed to be my focus.

And one day, I'm at the purported gravesite of Robert Johnson. I'm just mulling over Robert's great career and the mythical, legendary 29 recordings that he had made. Basically, I'm looking right at a big tree that seems to be where Robert was long ago buried. And I'm thinking about how these songs are very vital now. Remember that 1990 was within probably a year of the big [Robert Johnson] boxed set that got released and went platinum. I thought, "I wonder who owns the rights to those songs." And then I got this very negative image. I thought, "It's probably some lawyer" -- some unsavory type in a tall building in New York City with a big cigar. I thought, "God, we always get screwed. That really stinks."

And then I just shook my head. Very emphatically, I said to myself, "It doesn't matter. Those are Robert's songs. I'm standing here with Robert Johnson, basically, at his gravesite. He's the spiritual owner of those songs." That's literally the phrase I born to myself. And at that moment, that's when the lightning bolt hit. My eyes got real wide, and I thought, "That's just like you. Do you see it? You're the spiritual owner. No matter what you've gone through, you wrote those songs. You created them. You lived those songs, and you're the one who really can sing those songs with the true understanding of how they came into being." It doesn't matter about the mythical tall building and the crooked guy with the big cigar. Robert's story was just like mine, and that was when I made up my mind.

Can you remember the first few nights when you started performing those Creedence songs live?

It would have been after the Blue Moon Swamp album came out. Understand, I basically went for 25 years without performing those songs. Even I didn't realize it had been that long, but it was from 1972 until 1997. There was only one exception. I played on the Fourth of July in Washington, D.C., in 1987. I gave a special concert for veterans, and I started the show with the riff from "The Old Man Down the Road" ... and then I went into "Born on the Bayou." It was kind of mind blowing. Everyone knew I wasn't playing my old songs. But this was kind of a gift to the veterans and kind of symbolic to me. Even still, I went another 10 years without publicly performing those songs. So I had made up my mind in 1990, but I actually was not out performing in front of people until 1997.


Link (http://www.cmt.com/news/articles/1518067/20051213/fogerty_john.jhtml?headlines=true)

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 12:44 AM
:lol:

Love this thread....

Another FINE production brought to you by cadverdouche, LLC.

:gulp:

Just like old times.

:D

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 12:48 AM
One of the worst was Jon Fogarty.
What a dick.

.

Gotta love the inbred who starts a "what a dick" thread, and can't even get the name correct of the artist the thread is supposed to be about.

Hey, cadaverdouche, what about that dick from The Beatles, you know, Jan Lemmon?

:gulp:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:49 AM
I wonder if these trolls coordinate their posting. Gar's gone C-Dog shows up. Can't be a coincident.

FORD
03-03-2009, 12:51 AM
When one guy writes all the lyrics, all the music, sings the songs, and plays lead guitar, I would have to say, Yes he IS the entire fucking band.

John let the other members write songs on the last CCR album "Pendulum". They sucked.

This one didn't though.... because John wrote it.

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cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 12:52 AM
:lol:

Love this thread....

Another FINE production brought to you by cadverdouche, LLC.

:gulp:

Just like old times.

:D Just to check my facts I did some research.
On Wikipedia it tells the story of the break up of the band
pretty much as I stated.

But I'm sure you're the real authority.
Asshole.

FORD
03-03-2009, 12:54 AM
Gotta love the inbred who starts a "what a dick" thread, and can't even get the name correct of the artist the thread is supposed to be about.

Hey, cadaverdouche, what about that dick from The Beatles, you know, Jan Lemmon?

:gulp:


Jan Lemmon? Wasn't he that asshole who thought he was more popular than Charlie Crist?

kwame k
03-03-2009, 12:58 AM
Jan Lemmon? Wasn't he that asshole who thought he was more popular than Charlie Crist?

Same dude, he wrote that song. "I am the eggplant, I am Mike Wallace".

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 12:59 AM
Here troll fuck. I guess I'll have to do your reseach for you.



Link (http://www.cmt.com/news/articles/1518067/20051213/fogerty_john.jhtml?headlines=true)

If anything that backs up my story.
He broke his contract and paid for it.
The wikipedia story backs up my claim he was too controlling.
At least in the eyes of the band.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 01:01 AM
If anything that backs up my story.
He broke his contract and paid for it.
The wikipedia story backs up my claim he was too controlling.
At least in the eyes of the band.


Sure it does.......you're worthless, go away!

WARF
03-03-2009, 02:16 AM
Even people who are completely illiterate can have an opinion.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :hee:

Jesus Christ, someone pull the plug on this guy!

You make thome seem like a fucking rocket scientist!

Jesus Christ
03-03-2009, 02:46 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :hee:

Jesus Christ, someone pull the plug on this guy!


I must admit, I am tempted to do so, My son. :jesuslol:

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 03:54 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :hee:

Jesus Christ, someone pull the plug on this guy!

You make thome seem like a fucking rocket scientist!

Pull the plug?

Are you kidding me?

cadaverdouche is the funniest troll on the interwebs.

:gulp:

hideyoursheep
03-03-2009, 04:02 AM
Gotta love the inbred who starts a "what a dick" thread, and can't even get the name correct of the artist the thread is supposed to be about.

Hey, cadaverdouche, what about that dick from The Beatles, you know, Jan Lemmon?

:gulp:

It wasn't really his fault the Beatles broke up, you know.






It was because of his wife, Yoko Malmsteen.

Everybody knows that.

:wanker:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 10:05 AM
First you say I'm wrong now I'm misunderstood.
Why is it that to post your opinions here you have to present them
as if they were being graded?
I can understand disagreeing with someones opinion but why the constant
lectures about spelling and grammer?
Even people who are completely illiterate can have an opinion.


My statement should have said his own music.
He chose to walk away and not honor a contact he had signed.
He has only himself to blame.
And I think it was all because he was too controlling .

Good Lord, precisely what is it that you do not understand about communicating? Having an opinion is all well and good, yet presenting it to others in a manner it can be clearly understood is the goal. It's not like several people are huddled closely around a lit garbage can, sharing the warmth and a bottle of MD 20/20 here. One needs to do a little more than mumble incoherrently and nudge the fellow closest to get one's point across.

In all of this, you have confused your opinion with fact. And in case you have failed to notice (even after being told by several folks), both are incorrect. This is what happens when people gather faulty information, then attempt to draw conclusions from it. Throw in some poor communicating skills and a remarkably clueless attitude, and the result is threads like this. That you continue to offered wounded and defensive remarks after the fact only makes things worse.

You truly should trademark this routine, as every one of your threads repeats the same dull process, leading to a most predictable result.


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7084/failurethread.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=failurethread.jpg)

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 12:29 PM
You truly should trademark this routine, as every one of your threads repeats the same dull process, leading to a most predictable result.



http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/52770-did-wacko-jacko-invent-moonwalk.html

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/house-music/52884-beatlemania.html


http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/website-related-discussion-webmaster-feedback/49806-moderaters.html


3 of my favorites :D



Most of his threads actually are complaints about the forums, moderators, or other posters.

Except those that are about music, based on his ridiculous assumptions, and/or incorrect facts.

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 12:38 PM
You're proof positive of that.
Try RothFans - Powered by David Lee Roth Fans (http://www.rothfans.com) and tell us they treat your "thread" with more respect than we do.

Why is the board always wrong, and you're always right in these situations where you get your ass handed to you?

always.

:gulp:

Hey, what do ya know... Thank you , Rothfans. - RothFans (http://www.rothfans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2382)

And there you were LM, feeling washed up and unable to inspire people. :hee:

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 12:40 PM
:sniff:

A tear for cadaver......

He'll be missed.

:gulp:

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 03:11 PM
:sniff:

A tear for cadaver......

He'll be missed.

:gulp:
I should have expected this from the usuall douchebags.
Even if not one word of what true why do you assholes
consider it as a personal insult.
This isn't a Creedance site .
Or a Fogerty site.
So what's your justification for claiming I posted this just
to stir shit?
You have none.
If I had said Dave was a dick and destroyed VH I could see
your logic.
Just like Lounge asshole posting in a thread about best bands
that he doesn't like such threads .
Yet he reads them and responds .
He has to comment on everything even if he has no input on the
subject.
But all his bootlicking cronies adore him.
No one has presented anything to contradict me.
The record company invested money to put out the music.
In return the band signed contracts obligating them to produce
a certain amount of albums.
In my opinion Fogertys actions caused the break up.
Whether it was mutual or he walked out.
He was sued .
He lost.
It is a fact the other band members resented his controlling
behavior.
He refused to sing their songs.
They didn't refuse to back him , he refused to back them.
Even if he had all the talent , they made it as a band.
He didn't start as a solo act.
He is now and I'm sure his band knows their place.
But Creedance was a band but Fogerty wanted to treat
them as hired hands.
They contributed to his success but he could care less.

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 03:21 PM
Huh?

:gulp:

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Gotta love the inbred who starts a "what a dick" thread, and can't even get the name correct of the artist the thread is supposed to be about.

Hey, cadaverdouche, what about that dick from The Beatles, you know, Jan Lemmon?

:gulp:

Even though the name was misspelled the name was correct.
I wasn't looking at his name when I posted.
But you knew who I was talking about .
And the thread wasn't about Fogerty it was about musicians
that after making it big figure their the star and ditch the
people who contributed to their success.
I excluded Roth to avoid the apearance of posting to stir
shit.
But I'm sure in some people opinion Dave's ego lead to the
breakup of VH.
I think it was Ed.
It's all opinion.
But since it's not your opinion it's wrong.
I bet your head is gigantic.
It must be to be an expert on everything.
Asshole.







who

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 03:39 PM
Huh?

:gulp:

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Huh?

:gulp:
Wow, great come back.
I hope you didn't strain yourself.
By the way I see you still consider yourself as
the spokesman for the whole site.

Just because you have a crack team of asskissers
that back anything you say doesn't mean you're
always right.

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 04:03 PM
Huh?

:gulp:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 04:53 PM
Funny how we respond, with our own opinions, and you attack us as Lounge kiss asses. You ramble on incoherently, throw a thousand accusations out there and yet it does not change the fact that everyone who responded to you thinks you are full of shit. Like the Beatles thread before. You are so predictable. Anyone who doesn't agree with you and who tries to argue with you on the points you start your typical troll bullshit.

Did you ever think as musicians and songwriters we might have empathy for John's situation and of course we'll take his side because.............

The record company screwed him out of his songs that he wrote and the band sided, to make a buck, with the record company, fact.

So if I understand you correctly and unfortunately I lost my troll decoder ring, if i dare to disagree with you, I am a Lounge kiss ass because I am scared to disagree with Lounge. Everyone here you responded against you will tell you the same thing. Who the Fuck is scared of Lounge and why should we be. Troll fuck!

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 05:26 PM
:lol:

Allow me to decode cadaverdouche for you.


It's is much easier in his world, to think everyone who disagrees with him an ass-kisser, or an asshole, or a big meanie, rather than look inside and perhaps accept the fact that he doesn't know wtf he's talking about, and has a terrible time even getting the most basic points across.

It is all your fault, kwame. Not cadaver's.

If you can't bring yourself to agree with cadaver, you're an asshole.

Ironic, eh?

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 05:39 PM
What I find truly astounding here is that we are now two pages deep into this thread (well, maybe deep is the wrong word), yet some sixty posts on this character is still attempting to explain his point of view.

What is also fairly remarkable is the notion that since it was I being the first in the thread to offer disagreement, would it not follow that everyone else is following my lead, and therefore is kissing my ass? I find it unpardonable that this fellow's nebulous thinking has now extended to failing to extend the proper credit where credit is due.

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 05:39 PM
EDIT: INSIPID CONNECTION http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:08 PM
What I find truly astounding here is that we are now two pages deep into this thread (well, maybe deep is the wrong word), yet some sixty posts on this character is still attempting to explain his point of view.

What is also fairly remarkable is the notion that since it was I being the first in the thread to offer disagreement, would it not follow that everyone else is following my lead, and therefore is kissing my ass? I find it unpardonable that this fellow's nebulous thinking has now extended to failing to extend the proper credit where credit is due.

Par for the course.

Typical cadaverdouche thread timeline:


1] cadaver starts ridiculous thread based on a premise that came to him deep in a Nyquil fog.

2] Other posters, stopping to look as if it's another traffic accident on the highway, can't help but point out the inaccuracies in his thread.

3] cadaver slightly alters his original point [using the term loosely] to try and make himself seem like he actually had a clue about the topic in the first place

4] More posters, seeing the crowds gather around the carnage, can't help but pile on the ridiculous mis-statements and erronoeus facts brought forth by the cadaver

5] cadaver starts flailing arms wildly, accusing everyone of being big,fat meanies, who can only point out the mistakes, and have no respect for his "opinions" that he originally offered up as "facts"

6] posters laugh aloud at the seemingly child-like grasp of the concept of how a thread and open forum works by cadaverdouche.

7] cadaver calls everyone an asshole, an ass-kisser, and starts a thread whining about it in Feedback.

8] cadaver begs the wife to go get more Robitussin on her way home from work.

9] cadaver heads over to RothChats to tell them THEY are the only true Roth Site worth posting at.

10] All 4 online at RothChats agree with him.


:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 06:16 PM
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. - Mark Twain http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-336.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sexy-Smileys/)

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:26 PM
Math is by far my strong suit.
Spelling , grammer , and proper sentence stucture elude me.
I like to read but hate to write.
My one finger typing method could use some work too.
But a construction accident left me with a a left hand
with limited abilities.
I can grip stuff fine,
But my fingers are difficult to use.
I do everything with the right hand.
Including pleasuring myself but If the right hand was
unavailable the left would work .
I practice with it once in a while just in case.


:lol:

He's finally found his home......

:gulp:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 06:30 PM
What I find truly astounding here is that we are now two pages deep into this thread (well, maybe deep is the wrong word), yet some sixty posts on this character is still attempting to explain his point of view.

What is also fairly remarkable is the notion that since it was I being the first in the thread to offer disagreement, would it not follow that everyone else is following my lead, and therefore is kissing my ass? I find it unpardonable that this fellow's nebulous thinking has now extended to failing to extend the proper credit where credit is due.

See there you go.........no, if C-Dung had said I was a Chefcraig kiss ass and scared to do anything but agree with you........then I would of agreed. Lounge's a pussy........You..........:punch:

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:34 PM
You BOTH tremble in my presence.....

:D

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 06:36 PM
It's the aftershave.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Par for the course.

Typical cadaverdouche thread timeline:


1] cadaver starts ridiculous thread based on a premise that came to him deep in a Nyquil fog.

2] Other posters, stopping to look as if it's another traffic accident on the highway, can't help but point out the inaccuracies in his thread.

3] cadaver slightly alters his original point [using the term loosely] to try and make himself seem like he actually had a clue about the topic in the first place

4] More posters, seeing the crowds gather around the carnage, can't help but pile on the ridiculous mis-statements and erronoeus facts brought forth by the cadaver

5] cadaver starts flailing arms wildly, accusing everyone of being big,fat meanies, who can only point out the mistakes, and have no respect for his "opinions" that he originally offered up as "facts"

6] posters laugh aloud at the seemingly child-like grasp of the concept of how a thread and open forum works by cadaverdouche.

7] cadaver calls everyone an asshole, an ass-kisser, and starts a thread whining about it in Feedback.

8] cadaver begs the wife to go get more Robitussin on her way home from work.

9] cadaver heads over to RothChats to tell them THEY are the only true Roth Site worth posting at.

10] All 4 online at RothChats agree with him.


:gulp:


Holy shit! My sides! :lmao: That is the funniest fucking thing I have read in a long time.

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:39 PM
Holy shit! My sides! :lmao: That is the funniest fucking thing I have read in a long time.

Ass-kisser

:gulp:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 06:39 PM
You BOTH tremble in my presence.....

:D

:gulp:

I hardly use any tremble or presence on my amp, there Nancy Boy...........all fucking bass, all the way up! :rockit:

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:40 PM
It's the aftershave.

Too much Hi-Karate?

Should I go back to the Old Spice?

:gulp:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 06:40 PM
It's the aftershave.

Or the booze drenched breath.

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:43 PM
Or the booze drenched breath.

Why do you think I gargle with aftershave?

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 06:43 PM
Too much Hi-Karate?

Should I go back to the Old Spice?

:gulp:

Do you remember that Hi-Karate stuff? It really did come with a little booklet of self-defense instructions. That shit, along with Brute and Old Spice were always interesting when worn a tad heavily on a humid day. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-scared-smileys-461.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sexy-Smileys/)

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 06:45 PM
Remember it?

Hi Karate went great with the Angel Flight slacks and the gold Italian Horn necklace....

:D

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 06:50 PM
Yet try it while wearing a pukka-shell necklace along with a silk shirt, dealing with raging hormones and broken air-conditioning. Fort Lauderdale, my kind of town...

cadaverdog
03-03-2009, 08:41 PM
What I find truly astounding here is that we are now two pages deep into this thread (well, maybe deep is the wrong word), yet some sixty posts on this character is still attempting to explain his point of view.

What is also fairly remarkable is the notion that since it was I being the first in the thread to offer disagreement, would it not follow that everyone else is following my lead, and therefore is kissing my ass? I find it unpardonable that this fellow's nebulous thinking has now extended to failing to extend the proper credit where credit is due.

First off I have no problem with disagreement.
I was basing my statements on what interpreted
from A interview I heard.
If I misinterpreted these facts , so be it.
But as far as I'm concerned no one has shown
me anything that disputes what I said.
But being accused of pulling shit out of my ass
because I knew it would piss someone off is bullshit.
If you can't grasp that then it's futile to try to
explain further.
Some assholes will accuse you of trying to stir shit
no matter what you say.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 08:59 PM
First off I have no problem with disagreement.
I was basing my statements on what interpreted
from A interview I heard.
If I misinterpreted these facts , so be it.
But as far as I'm concerned no one has shown
me anything that disputes what I said.
But being accused of pulling shit out of my ass
because I knew it would piss someone off is bullshit.
If you can't grasp that then it's futile to try to
explain further.
Some assholes will accuse you of trying to stir shit
no matter what you say.

How about giving some links and doing a bit of research before you open your fucking mouth. Then again this is your typical backpedal part in the thread. Jesus Christ, you really are fucking predictable.

LoungeMachine
03-03-2009, 09:02 PM
How about giving some links and doing a bit of research before you open your fucking mouth. Then again this is your typical backpedal part in the thread. Jesus Christ, you really are fucking predictable.

Isn't it, though?

We ALL know the story of CCR

We've read the books, read the interviews, watched the documentaries.....

But somehow WE are the ones who are supposed to refute this moron's recollection of a radio interview hea says he heard, that he supplies NO link to, NO transcript of.

But WE'RE the assholes.

:lol:

As if we care enough to set him straight.

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 09:29 PM
First off I have no problem with disagreement.
I was basing my statements on what interpreted
from A interview I heard.
If I misinterpreted these facts , so be it.
But as far as I'm concerned no one has shown
me anything that disputes what I said.
But being accused of pulling shit out of my ass
because I knew it would piss someone off is bullshit.
If you can't grasp that then it's futile to try to
explain further.
Some assholes will accuse you of trying to stir shit
no matter what you say.

Let me see if I am following this: You are saying that even if you built an opinion upon misinterpreted information, that opinion is still valid?

Over the course of the past couple of days, no matter what I or others have posted here, you have either completely avoided what has been said to you (yet quoted it anyway while simultaneously failing to respond to the content posted) or varied your responses to the point of total incoherence, obfuscating whatever point you may have dubiously held in the first place.

For this I truly wish to thank you, as it now tells me that whenever I again see your name in a thread or post, I'll know not to waste my time by reading the alleged "content" offered there. You have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you can make anvils suddenly feel smarter when you walk into a room.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 09:29 PM
Isn't it, though?

We ALL know the story of CCR

We've read the books, read the interviews, watched the documentaries.....

But somehow WE are the ones who are supposed to refute this moron's recollection of a radio interview hea says he heard, that he supplies NO link to, NO transcript of.

But WE'RE the assholes.

:lol:

As if we care enough to set him straight.

:gulp:


.....but all the proof just reinforces his point.:biggrin:
It'd be so easy to actually refute him with links and facts but it's funnier watching him squirm.

kwame k
03-03-2009, 09:32 PM
Let me see if I am following this: You are saying that even if you built an opinion upon misinterpreted information, that opinion is still valid?

Over the course of the past couple of days, no matter what I or others have posted here, you have either completely avoided what has been said to you (yet quoted it anyway while simultaneously failing to respond to the content posted) or varied your responses to the point of total incoherence, obfuscating whatever point you may have dubiously held in the first place.

For this I truly wish to thank you, as it now tells me that whenever I again see your name in a thread or post, I'll know not to waste my time by reading the alleged "content" offered there. You have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you can make anvils suddenly feel smarter when you walk into a room.


Jesus, Craig! Do you really have to denigrate anvils like that?

chefcraig
03-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Jesus, Craig! Do you really have to denigrate anvils like that?

On the contrary, I felt I was empowering them. :duh:

kwame k
03-03-2009, 09:57 PM
On the contrary, I felt I was empowering them. :duh:


By bad, must of misunderstood you. Seems to happen in this thread, since we all misunderstood C-Dung.

Blaze
03-03-2009, 10:19 PM
CCR (not sure what CCR is after this thread) wrote some of my most favored songs.

I never knew there was an issue with CCR.


I think I understand from reading this thread, the guy that wrote the good music for CCR was ripped off. Did he go with another band? Where is he?


I still stand by my original (what I meant) statement.

If the guy from CCR was ripped off. That annoys me. He was good. I like his stuff.
Who are these shags playing the CCR guys music. And where can I find the CCR guy?


When did all this happen?

Screw CCR, if they ripped off the CCR guy.

Good day.

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 04:46 AM
Ya know, not for nothing, but....

The title of the thread also bugs the shit out of me.

If anyone should/could be considered ingrates, it would HAVE to be the rest of CCR.

Those cats would have been selling cars in Van Nuys, playing bars in Bakersfield, or driving truck for $200/week if it were not for the talent, songs, voice, and business acumen of one John Fogerty.

John could have sold millions, and sold out arenas the world over with any competent session cats or hired guns. He was CCR.

Let's not confuse CCR with CVH, where it was the sum of the parts that made the band, much like The Beatles, The Stones, and countless others. CCR began and ended with John Fogerty's writing. Plain and simple.

Everyone else in the band, on the management team, and at the lable, rode that motherfucker's coattails all the way to the motherfucking bank

But now Capt Cadaver wants to call him an ingrate?


Correct me if I'm wrong cadaverdouche, but you've never written a song in your life, have you?

:gulp:

Case, and thread, closed.

Panamark
03-04-2009, 06:53 AM
Yeah, you just hope at the end of the day John got some of what he
truly deserved. Last time he was in Oz it was club gigs promoting the fact
he would sing the CCR stuff..

Classic stuff, and he deserves all he can get out of it.

FORD
03-04-2009, 11:38 AM
I don't know all the details, but considering Fogerty is now recording for Fantasy Records again, he must have reached some sort of settlement with the label. Though I do know this much - the pig Saul Zaentz doesn't own the label anymore.

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George is in the jungle
Knockin' on the door
Come to get your children
Wants to have a war

Come on, lord you'd better run,
Be a long dark night before this thing is done

Brownie's in the outhouse
Katrina on the line
Government's a disaster
But George, he says it's fine

Come on, lord you'd better run,
Be a long dark night before this thing is done

Rummy's in the kitchen messin' with the pan
Dickie's in the back stealing everything he can
Come on, Lord you'd better run,
Be a long dark night before this thing is done

You better run, you better run,
Lord you better run, Lord you better run,

Runnin' down the highway
Shoutin' to the Lord
George's got religion
And you know he can't afford more, yeah

Come on, Lord you'd better run
Be a long dark night before this thing is done
Be a long dark night before this thing is done, oh Lord

I can't take it no more
I can't take it no more
I'm sick and tired of your dirty little war
I can't take it no more

You know you lied about the casualties
You know you lied about the WMD's
You know you lied about the detainees
All over this world

Stop talking about staying the course
You keep a-beating that old dead horse
You know you lied about how we went to war
I can't take it no more

I can't take it
I can't take it

I bet you never saw the old school yard
I bet you never saw the national guard
Your daddy wrote a check and there you are
Another fortunate son

I can't take it no more
I can't take it no more
I'm sick and tired of your dirty little war
I can't take it no more

katie
03-04-2009, 11:50 AM
sounds a bit gay

kwame k
03-04-2009, 11:54 AM
All we need is si-gar, Capt. Caps Lock and Joey T in this thread and we'll have the complete Troll Nation represented in here.

chefcraig
03-04-2009, 12:09 PM
All we need is si-gar, Capt. Caps Lock and Joey T in this thread and we'll have the complete Troll Nation represented in here.


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6558/2633034675af6fd8e173.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2633034675af6fd8e173.jpg)

Susie Q
03-04-2009, 05:16 PM
Please translate.

My troll decoder ring is out of batteries.

I'm lovin' it. That made me laugh like hell, right there!!:hee:

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm lovin' it. That made me laugh like hell, right there!!:hee:

Make cadaver feel welcome over there, will ya hun?

Thanks.

:gulp:

kwame k
03-04-2009, 05:26 PM
Just have your waders on over there, Susie.

Even posting from the relatively safe distance of your computer does not make you immune to the piles of bullshit he'll produce.

Susie Q
03-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Hahahaha!! Well, there is one troll over here that won't be at our place, so I guess it is a even trade off.:tongue0011:

kwame k
03-04-2009, 05:31 PM
Dish the dirt.....who?

Susie Q
03-04-2009, 05:39 PM
Dish the dirt.....who?

You have no idea? Come on you gotta get the decoder ring out. :)

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 06:52 PM
You kicked thome out?

:lol:

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 08:58 PM
You kicked thome out?

:lol:
You don't get it , dumb ass .
You're the fucking troll no longer posting at Rothfans.
The master shit disturber.:hee:

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Let me see if I am following this: You are saying that even if you built an opinion upon misinterpreted information, that opinion is still valid?

Over the course of the past couple of days, no matter what I or others have posted here, you have either completely avoided what has been said to you (yet quoted it anyway while simultaneously failing to respond to the content posted) or varied your responses to the point of total incoherence, obfuscating whatever point you may have dubiously held in the first place.

For this I truly wish to thank you, as it now tells me that whenever I again see your name in a thread or post, I'll know not to waste my time by reading the alleged "content" offered there. You have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you can make anvils suddenly feel smarter when you walk into a room.
I will try to explain one last time.
Whether you are convinced I'm wrong or right with the facts.
My motive was not to piss people off.
But a certain asshole refers to anything he doesn't agree with
or like as trolling.
And the usuall dickheads back him up.

kwame k
03-04-2009, 09:06 PM
You don't get it , dumb ass .
You're the fucking troll no longer posting at Rothfans.
The master shit disturber.:hee:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/PotKettle.jpg

kwame k
03-04-2009, 09:11 PM
I will try to explain one last time.
Whether you are convinced I'm wrong or right with the facts.
My motive was not to piss people off.
But a certain asshole refers to anything he doesn't agree with
or like as trolling.
And the usuall dickheads back him up.


Give it up C-Dung and your fucking little Lounge Conspiracy Theory! You were wrong about John and as usual you can not admit it. So everyone who replied to this and disagreed with you is kiss Lounge's ass. Weak!

You are so bothered and paranoid about Lounge and it pisses you off that he is a mod here and calls you out on your bullshit, grow the fuck up and try for once to start a thread with a little knowledge and forethought and maybe people might respond positively.

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 09:14 PM
Yeah, you just hope at the end of the day John got some of what he
truly deserved. Last time he was in Oz it was club gigs promoting the fact
he would sing the CCR stuff..

Classic stuff, and he deserves all he can get out of it.
He did get what he deservered.
He was sued by the label not his bandmates for not abiding to
the contract he signed.
All stories I've read or heard all point to Fogertys controlling behavior
as the reason the band broke up.
And the reason the rest of the band sided with the label.
No one here gives the band any credit for anything.

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 09:25 PM
Give it up C-Dung and your fucking little Lounge Conspiracy Theory! You were wrong about John and as usual you can not admit it. So everyone who replied to this and disagreed with you is kiss Lounge's ass. Weak!

You are so bothered and paranoid about Lounge and it pisses you off that he is a mod here and calls you out on your bullshit, grow the fuck up and try for once to start a thread with a little knowledge and forethought and maybe people might respond positively.
He's not just a mod , he dictates who or what is relevant.
You just mimick what he says like a fucking parrot.
Your postings on why you left Rothfans shows your
true colors .
You had no problem posting there till you thought they
were unfair to Loungedickhead.
No one did or said anything about your postings.
You are the supreme ass kisser.

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 09:30 PM
Fascinating. No, not the story of John Fogerty, yet how you could possibly get so many details wrong, including the spelling of the fellow's name.

The truth is, John Fogerty was screwed and sued not only by talent-free former sidemen looking to gain a paycheck, yet by his own management as well. Rather than perform Creedence tunes to which he would not gain a penny, he (rightly) refrained from doing so. This absurdity reached it's nadir when Fogerty was sued in court for plagiarizing himself by Saul Zaentz, the head of his former record company when Fogerty released the album Centerfield in the mid-eighties.

Please, if you are going to offer evidence of "Ingrates" in the future, here's a suggestion or two: For one, get your facts straight. Another would be to post them in a coherent, readable manner. After your "What a dick" comment, what you posted was nebulous at best.
By the way know it all , he was never sued by his sidemen.
He was sued by his record label for not fulfilling his contract.
His brother quit over Johns attitude and the band eventually
disbanded for the same reason.

cadaverdog
03-04-2009, 09:38 PM
Ya know, not for nothing, but....

The title of the thread also bugs the shit out of me.

If anyone should/could be considered ingrates, it would HAVE to be the rest of CCR.

Those cats would have been selling cars in Van Nuys, playing bars in Bakersfield, or driving truck for $200/week if it were not for the talent, songs, voice, and business acumen of one John Fogerty.

John could have sold millions, and sold out arenas the world over with any competent session cats or hired guns. He was CCR.

Let's not confuse CCR with CVH, where it was the sum of the parts that made the band, much like The Beatles, The Stones, and countless others. CCR began and ended with John Fogerty's writing. Plain and simple.

Everyone else in the band, on the management team, and at the lable, rode that motherfucker's coattails all the way to the motherfucking bank

But now Capt Cadaver wants to call him an ingrate?


Correct me if I'm wrong cadaverdouche, but you've never written a song in your life, have you?

:gulp:

Case, and thread, closed.
So in your opinion only the song writer should get all the credit.
The musicians mean nothing.

Business acumen of Fogerty?
He signed the contracts used to in your words screw him.
He screwed himself.
I see you're back on the I'm a musician high horse.

kwame k
03-04-2009, 09:49 PM
He's not just a mod , he dictates who or what is relevant.
You just mimick what he says like a fucking parrot.
Your postings on why you left Rothfans shows your
true colors .
You had no problem posting there till you thought they
were unfair to Loungedickhead.
No one did or said anything about your postings.
You are the supreme ass kisser.


Oh, so you want a flame war you insignificant little piece of shit.

I left Rothfans because of religious fanatical people like Go Sperm Go and Max's gay ass shit about defending Rothfans with his life or whatever gay shit he was spewing. Yes, I stuck up for Lounge when Max and others, like yourself, were saying that place was not going to be another Army, and the guy hadn't even made two posts or started any shit but was being crucified. Remember all the....... this is a fresh start and a new place everyone there was spewing? Sorry there Spanky, I don't deal with hypocrites.

Truth be told, Craig sent me an email about DDLR and the second I signed up at that place and was getting the vibe of that, I left Rothfans for good. Notice I didn't do any of your little troll bullshit about whining in the Feedback section or bitching like a little fucking girl in every thread. I left, period. You on the other hand, demand that this place change to fit your little fucking hair-brained threads and that people should respect you. Why? Remember calling your old lady's kid a piece of shit and wanting to get rid of him? How old was he? You deserve no respect because you are a lying piece of shit..... fucking troll.

Let's talk about the shit you said about the Army over there!
You know the place you bitched about over at Rothfans......this fucking place! So why are you here when all you did over there is bitch about this place? You don't like the mods and you think the people over here are kissing certain people's asses, so instead of having any fucking class and leaving, you'll just sit here and cry about it Nancy Boy.

Face the facts that no one likes you here.

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 10:50 PM
kwame = 1
cadaverdouche = 0

:gulp:

kwame k
03-04-2009, 10:57 PM
kwame = 1
cadaverdouche = 0

:gulp:


Oh, fuck off asshole!

1........ only fucking 1 in this whole thread? Damn, Looks like I have to find another mod to kiss ass to.

brb, I see Nick and FORD are on line! ;)

chefcraig
03-04-2009, 11:14 PM
By the way know it all , he was never sued by his sidemen.
He was sued by his record label for not fulfilling his contract.
His brother quit over Johns attitude and the band eventually
disbanded for the same reason.

You ignorant buffoon. Bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford sued Fogerty in 1997 for defamation and breach of fiduciary duty ( CREEDENCE COURTROOM REVIVAL: John Fogerty : Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/johnfogerty/articles/story/5925990/creedence_courtroom_revival) ). Yet I'm sure that your keen instinct for ignoring facts will once again be blamed upon the persecution you are receiving at the hands of others.

Christ, there are entire forrests less dense than you. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)

kwame k
03-04-2009, 11:18 PM
Christ, there are entire forrests less dense than you. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)


Oh God, I am using that one Craig!












































Hey, wait a minute you're not a mod, why am I kissing your ass?

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 11:22 PM
A while back I quit posting here or (anywhere) because I felt my
every post was just a reason for some people to launch a personal
attack on my person.
That's ancient history.
I monitored the site and noticed the site went back to it's roots.
To have friendly debates not personal attacks.

I thank you for welcoming me back.
Rothfans is definatly the class act of Roth sites.
.


So, you have an issue with personal attacks, UNLESS you're the one making the personal attack?


If RothChats is "definatly" [LMAO] the class act, then why do you wish to start your lame shit here, and not there?

I'll tell you why.

Because HERE you get the attention you crave.



My savings are running out and I can't pay all my
bills on unemployment.
Now I'm constantly stressed.
When I'm stressed it affects my health.
I need a fucking miracle.

.


Ya know, Cadaverdouche, maybe a little less time posting your bullshit theories on multiple sites, and a little more time spent trying to get OFF unemployment, would do you some good.

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 11:23 PM
I will try to explain one last time.
.


Promise?

So you're done trying to "explain"????

Woo Hooo

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 11:26 PM
He's not just a mod , he dictates who or what is relevant.
.



:lol:


STFU with this shit already, moron.

Only you would be dumb enough to think this.

Yet another lame ass theory from our unemployed wife-beater.

:gulp:

kwame k
03-04-2009, 11:27 PM
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LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 11:32 PM
You ignorant buffoon. Bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford sued Fogerty in 1997 for defamation and breach of fiduciary duty ( CREEDENCE COURTROOM REVIVAL: John Fogerty : Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/johnfogerty/articles/story/5925990/creedence_courtroom_revival) ). Yet I'm sure that your keen instinct for ignoring facts will once again be blamed upon the persecution you are receiving at the hands of others.

Christ, there are entire forrests less dense than you. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)




:lol:



Beat me to it, ya cunt.





cadaverdouche, please, oh wise one, tell us again how his band mates never sued him........



[watch as he'll now try to esplain what he really meant...

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Possibly not. It truly is fascinating to witness that even when this imbecile quotes a post multiple times, he still shows an astounding refusal to respond or even acknowledge the issues raised within the content.

kwame k
03-04-2009, 11:38 PM
Possibly not. It truly is fascinating to witness that even when this imbecile quotes a post multiple times, he still shows an astounding refusal to respond or even acknowledge the issues raised within the content.


Might be the fact that you use them there fancy big words, Craig. I doubt he knows half of what you are saying.

chefcraig
03-04-2009, 11:46 PM
Might be the fact that you use them there fancy big words, Craig. I doubt he knows half of what you are saying.

Yet even if he understood a quarter of what I was saying, he'd still be ahead of the rest of us when it comes to comprehending his own confoundedly nonsensical gibberish. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-718.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sexy-Smileys/)

LoungeMachine
03-04-2009, 11:56 PM
I love the "yer all a bunch of ass-kissers" line.....

Just as he posts his big, fat reacharound to the gang at RothChats decalring them the one-true Roth Site.

:lol:


Nope. No ass kissing there...... :D

kwame k
03-05-2009, 12:05 AM
I'll say this about the troll fuck, he's consistent.

chefcraig
03-05-2009, 12:11 AM
I'll say this about the troll fuck, he's consistent.

If you mean consistently inconsistent, then yeah, I agree. The guy's story is one of constant evolution, and much of what is said one day is contradicted by the next, only to be denied upon the following day. It's much like that old Eddie Murphy routine of watching his dreadful Aunt Bunny fall down a staircase...very, very slowly.

cadaverdog
03-05-2009, 02:28 AM
You ignorant buffoon. Bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford sued Fogerty in 1997 for defamation and breach of fiduciary duty ( CREEDENCE COURTROOM REVIVAL: John Fogerty : Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/johnfogerty/articles/story/5925990/creedence_courtroom_revival) ). Yet I'm sure that your keen instinct for ignoring facts will once again be blamed upon the persecution you are receiving at the hands of others.

Christ, there are entire forrests less dense than you. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-ashamed-smileys-721.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)
I was unawre of a later lawsuit .
But this was well after the break up.
The reason he lost his rights to his songs was due to him being
sued by the record label.
The label also blamed John for the break up.
They were not sued by the label.
And since Johnny boy ruled the band with an iron fist it must
have been his deciscion to sign the contract used against him.

By the way if as asserted by some here John had all the talent
and had no need of the others what happened to his solo
carreer?
A couple catchy tunes but nothing like Creedance's stuff.
If he was so talented what happened ?

cadaverdog
03-05-2009, 02:40 AM
Oh, so you want a flame war you insignificant little piece of shit.

I left Rothfans because of religious fanatical people like Go Sperm Go and Max's gay ass shit about defending Rothfans with his life or whatever gay shit he was spewing. Yes, I stuck up for Lounge when Max and others, like yourself, were saying that place was not going to be another Army, and the guy hadn't even made two posts or started any shit but was being crucified. Remember all the....... this is a fresh start and a new place everyone there was spewing? Sorry there Spanky, I don't deal with hypocrites.

Truth be told, Craig sent me an email about DDLR and the second I signed up at that place and was getting the vibe of that, I left Rothfans for good. Notice I didn't do any of your little troll bullshit about whining in the Feedback section or bitching like a little fucking girl in every thread. I left, period. You on the other hand, demand that this place change to fit your little fucking hair-brained threads and that people should respect you. Why? Remember calling your old lady's kid a piece of shit and wanting to get rid of him? How old was he? You deserve no respect because you are a lying piece of shit..... fucking troll.

Let's talk about the shit you said about the Army over there!
You know the place you bitched about over at Rothfans......this fucking place! So why are you here when all you did over there is bitch about this place? You don't like the mods and you think the people over here are kissing certain people's asses, so instead of having any fucking class and leaving, you'll just sit here and cry about it Nancy Boy.

Face the facts that no one likes you here.
Cry me a river , cunt.
You're a brown noser.
By the why Mr. Truthful Loungeassholes first post at
Rothfans was a personal attack on me.
Rewrite history all you want.
Your buddy's a shit disturber and your an asskisser.
No one likes me?
Boo Hoo.

cadaverdog
03-05-2009, 02:50 AM
I don't know if I can continue with the knowledge that nobody likes me.
I'm all torn up inside.
Your name calling has affected me deeply.
My stomach is churning.
Wait , it was just gas.
Continue your thrashing.
I'm O.K now.
No need for concern.
Rant away.

chefcraig
03-05-2009, 08:10 AM
By the way know it all , he was never sued by his sidemen.
He was sued by his record label for not fulfilling his contract.
His brother quit over Johns attitude and the band eventually
disbanded for the same reason.


I was unawre of a later lawsuit .
But this was well after the break up.
The reason he lost his rights to his songs was due to him being
sued by the record label.
The label also blamed John for the break up.
They were not sued by the label.
And since Johnny boy ruled the band with an iron fist it must
have been his deciscion to sign the contract used against him.


Reread your own words, you blithering idiot. You lamely attempt to insult me as a know it all, then state pointedly that I am wrong by announcing the sidemen never sued Fogerty. When it is proven that (yet again) you are not in possession of the correct facts, you attempt to avoid them by claiming somehow the time line is not applicable. And best of all, today you blame Fogerty for signing the very contract used to record the band! So who is the know it all?

This contract called for the members of the band to remain with the label, even after quitting the group. When the band broke up and failed to deliver product, all members of the group were sued. (Bad Moon Rising: The Unauthorized ... - Google Book Search (http://books.google.com/books?id=zDDKxvnPy7cC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=fantasy+records+sues+creedence&source=bl&ots=PqMX2kWzqs&sig=x5RKJfHbpJjajYrkgrFXC-I-akY&hl=en&ei=UcuvSf-hKsH7tgfI3syMBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#PPA150,M1) )

It appears facts are completely irrelevant to you. You either are ignorant of them, or dismiss them outright when they are brought to your attention. You simply are no longer worth engaging, not that you were in the first place. :mad0248:

Susie Q
03-05-2009, 09:21 AM
I love the "yer all a bunch of ass-kissers" line.....

Just as he posts his big, fat reacharound to the gang at RothChats decalring them the one-true Roth Site.

:lol:


Nope. No ass kissing there...... :D

Lounge, while I think you are a complete hysterical montage of wit, I think calling it RothChats gets to me because you are demeaning a great place for people to hang out that actually get along.

Rothfans don't do a tea bagging initiation there, and most of us (like 95&#37;) get along don't mean it is a bad site.

Before anyone says, "Well if you like it there so much, go back there and hang out", I'll say this: I have cut my teeth on the Army and will always hang out here too.

Now for Kwame - Kwame the troll I am telling you about earlier got 'banned' from our site a while back and got all kinds of nuts because they couldn't post on our site. Went so far as to change their IP addy came back as one alias, then went proxy and came back as another.

No, it's not Thome either. Thome is cool people in my book.

Big love to you crazy bastards in here...

kwame k
03-05-2009, 09:30 AM
Wow, now that's a troll, Susie.

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 09:41 AM
Cry me a river , cunt.
You're a brown noser.
By the why Mr. Truthful Loungeassholes first post at
Rothfans was a personal attack on me.
Rewrite history all you want.
Your buddy's a shit disturber and your an asskisser.
No one likes me?
Boo Hoo.




I don't know if I can continue with the knowledge that nobody likes me.
I'm all torn up inside.
Your name calling has affected me deeply.
.



:lol:

Imagine how torn up inside we are c-douche.


:gulp:

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 09:47 AM
Lounge, while I think you are a complete hysterical montage of wit, I think calling it RothChats gets to me because you are demeaning a great place for people to hang out that actually get along.

..

Don't take it personally, dear. No one else does.

It's just a nickname. ;)


I think it's great you guys have a place where everyone gets along.

But you have to admit, when you want to laugh your ass off, and watch the fur fly, THIS is where you come for the action.

And the Front Line is where the meek fear to tread.


So don't get mad when we call it RothChats. It's just a nickname, this is just the internets, and cadaverdouche is still just an ignorant, inbred wife-beater who doesn't know shit from shinola about anything.

Love ya.

:gulp:

chefcraig
03-05-2009, 10:30 AM
The main problem (amongst many) with this character is that he serves as the epitome of reverse Darwin mechanics, the living embodiment of the de-evolution of mankind. His universe is completely devoid of reason or logic, along with reading comprehension, grammar and spelling skills. By the by, these are replaced by ignorance, need and want. The unstable nature of the fellow allows for unpredictability, yet when seen overall reveals a startlingly redundant pattern.

Fuck him. A pox upon him and his kind.


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LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 12:06 PM
and Viewers Like You

binnie
03-05-2009, 12:16 PM
This thread is a classic.

Not anywhere near the 'forced pre-pubescent vascetomy' thread from the Caveman, but a classic nonetheless.

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 12:33 PM
This thread is a classic.

Not anywhere near the 'forced pre-pubescent vascetomy' thread from the Caveman, but a classic nonetheless.

Ya know, bin....

There will NEVER be another Father's Day Thread.

Those moments come around once in a lifetime.

But I agree, THIS has been a classic troll-busting laugh-a-thon.

Ne need to have chef take a bow. Kwame smacked him around but good, granted... but chef took him apart like a surgeon. :D

And the funny thing is, c-douche still can't see it.

He can't see how wrought with errors hisi initial post was, how inaccurate his premise was, how terrible he was at trying to articulate his opinions, and how he kept digging deeper and deeper holes for himself.

I think it was Deej in the Father's Day Thread who said to CAPT CAPLOCK dude, put down the shovel :lol:

But they never do, they just keep digging.

And then to pile on with his blatant hypocricy, claiming we're shit-stirrers who just go around throwing insults, all the while he's throwing around insults.

Panamark ansd others OWNED him when he started a similar thread way back about The Beatles, and how they weren't good, but merely "shoved down our throats"

A normal person would have learned something from that fiasco, but not c-douche. He took it to mean START MORE DUMB THREADS full of misinformation and weak premise.


So poor c-douche gets his ass handed to him again, he retreats to RothChats to tell them THEY are the only "true" Roth Site, and he feels safe from personal attacks there. Of course he is. He doesn't start stupid threads to attack over there.

I hope he sticks around here for the comedic relief.

What Kwame and chef did to him had me busting up laughing for an hour yesterday.

If only he'd post about his unemployment running out here, instead of over at the "true roth site"

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 12:37 PM
Your buddy's a shit disturber .

I didn't mean to disturb you.

:gulp:

binnie
03-05-2009, 12:41 PM
Ya know, bin....

There will NEVER be another Father's Day Thread.

Those moments come around once in a lifetime.

But I agree, THIS has been a classic troll-busting laugh-a-thon.

Ne need to have chef take a bow. Kwame smacked him around but good, granted... but chef took him apart like a surgeon. :D

And the funny thing is, c-douche still can't see it.

He can't see how wrought with errors hisi initial post was, how inaccurate his premise was, how terrible he was at trying to articulate his opinions, and how he kept digging deeper and deeper holes for himself.

I think it was Deej in the Father's Day Thread who said to CAPT CAPLOCK dude, put down the shovel :lol:

But they never do, they just keep digging.

And then to pile on with his blatant hypocricy, claiming we're shit-stirrers who just go around throwing insults, all the while he's throwing around insults.

Panamark ansd others OWNED him when he started a similar thread way back about The Beatles, and how they weren't good, but merely "shoved down our throats"

A normal person would have learned something from that fiasco, but not c-douche. He took it to mean START MORE DUMB THREADS full of misinformation and weak premise.


So poor c-douche gets his ass handed to him again, he retreats to RothChats to tell them THEY are the only "true" Roth Site, and he feels safe from personal attacks there. Of course he is. He doesn't start stupid threads to attack over there.

I hope he sticks around here for the comedic relief.

What Kwame and chef did to him had me busting up laughing for an hour yesterday.

If only he'd post about his unemployment running out here, instead of over at the "true roth site"

:gulp:

Yup, sometimes it takes a man to know when to quit.

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 12:42 PM
By the why Mr. Truthful Loungeassholes first post at
Rothfans was a personal attack on me.


.

And it still haunts you to this day..... :D


And you may want to work on those clever nicknames a bit, c-douche.

:gulp:

FORD
03-05-2009, 03:04 PM
By the way if as asserted by some here John had all the talent
and had no need of the others what happened to his solo
carreer?
A couple catchy tunes but nothing like Creedance's stuff.
If he was so talented what happened ?

Right. Which is why Saul the pig tried to sue Fogerty for "plagiarizing" himself, because his solo material was nothing like Creedence.

Tell me this song couldn't have been on the "Bayou Country" album, shit for brains......

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binnie
03-05-2009, 03:21 PM
Duran Duran, anyone?

kwame k
03-05-2009, 03:24 PM
Twas a good round of troll bashing. I'm glad it's over, though. It was starting to feel like work, instead of fun.

Kudos to Craig, he truly was the star of this thread and has my vote for Troll Buster of March. Beware of the tides of March, I believe the saying goes. C-dung was rolled over by a giant tsunami of verbal assault.

kwame k
03-05-2009, 03:29 PM
Duran Duran, anyone?


Dear God no! I can't keep fighting these wars on two fronts.

You shit stirrer, Binnie:biggrin:

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Twas a good round of troll bashing. I'm glad it's over, though. It was starting to feel like work, instead of fun.

Kudos to Craig, he truly was the star of this thread and has my vote for Troll Buster of March. Beware of the tides of March, I believe the saying goes. C-dung was rolled over by a giant tsunami of verbal assault.



I know exactly what you mean.

Everytime one of us would bust his ass wide open, and you'd think, welp, surely he'll get it now that he hasn't a fucking clue what he's talking about.. he'd come right back over the top with some more fucking nonsense that had shit-all to do with the facts.


At some point you just have to throw your arms up and admit that some people are actually TOO DUMB TO LEARN.

But it was a classic c-douche thread/meltdown/backpeddle/whinefest

:D

:gulp:

kwame k
03-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Yes, yes and yes. Every now and then a good troll bust/douche is required to air out the board, so to speak.
We do seem to have a rush of trolls here lately but the weather is getting nicer and they are not hunkered down under their virtual bridges as much now.

Kudos, to all who participated!

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 03:40 PM
What an ass-kisser.

:D

binnie
03-05-2009, 03:43 PM
Dear God no! I can't keep fighting these wars on two fronts.

You shit stirrer, Binnie:biggrin:

Hehehehe!

Andy Taylor is a cool poster though, and damn funny.

kwame k
03-05-2009, 03:44 PM
That's not what I ment, you missedunderstood me. You over beering bully moderator. No fuk off becuse all you do is follew me around and start shit.

kwame k
03-05-2009, 03:46 PM
Hehehehe!

Andy Taylor is a cool poster though, and damn funny.


Totally agree Binnie. You can respect someone who has a point of view and can back it up, with well thought out and researched points. No matter how wrong they are:tongue0011:

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 04:02 PM
Totally agree Binnie. You can respect someone who has a point of view and can back it up, with well thought out and researched points. No matter how wrong they are:tongue0011:

And therein lies the difference.

AT actually knows something, and is able to articulate it.

c-douche doesn't, and can't.

:gulp:

kwame k
03-05-2009, 04:06 PM
Alright enough! We can't let c-dung get 5 pages of attention whoring.

LoungeMachine
03-05-2009, 04:09 PM
Alright enough! We can't let c-dung get 5 pages of attention whoring.

Fuck off!!

c-douche deserves 5 pages of whoring.

Who the fuck are you to say otherwise, drum-monkey?

If it were up to me, c-douche, thome, and katie would have their own forum :D

:gulp:

kwame k
03-05-2009, 04:29 PM
It would be nice to have all the trolls in one place. One stop shopping, so to speak.

Susie Q
03-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Don't take it personally, dear. No one else does.

It's just a nickname. ;)


I think it's great you guys have a place where everyone gets along.

But you have to admit, when you want to laugh your ass off, and watch the fur fly, THIS is where you come for the action.

And the Front Line is where the meek fear to tread.


So don't get mad when we call it RothChats. It's just a nickname, this is just the internets, and cadaverdouche is still just an ignorant, inbred wife-beater who doesn't know shit from shinola about anything.

Love ya.

:gulp:

Yes, you are right about when I need to laugh my ass off I come here. There is no place like the Army to get the daily dose. But, I gotta say your epic piece of material was the Happy Fathers Day thread (which was helped along by chef) was outstanding! You ought to archive that bad boy some place so it don't get lost in the shuffle someplace.

The Front Line has always been balls to the wall and ya gotta swing a mighty dick when you post in there. It's not for the super sensitive or the weak spirited. When the ladies did post in there, they had to know what they were talking about and roll with the big dawgs.

I'm just gonna kick back and watch the show. :popc1:


Batter up my brother!:love0081:

Andy Taylor
03-05-2009, 08:09 PM
Ah... well thanks Binnie, Kwamke, Lounge. :)

Kwamke: No, you! :biggrin:

kwame k
03-05-2009, 08:20 PM
Ah... well thanks Binnie, Kwamke, Lounge. :)

Kwamke: No, you! :biggrin:


Go listen to a DD record, for Christ Sake;)

Andy Taylor
03-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Thanks, I shall. ;)

LoungeMachine
03-06-2009, 03:54 PM
.Originally Posted by cadaverdog
I did a short stint in the county slammer once and someone
had glued a picture of Jane Fonda on the bottom of the top bunk
right above my bunk.
I hate that commie traitor bitch but she was looking pretty good
in her tight leotard.
Every time I looked at her to pleasure myself I felt like a traitor.
Of course that didn't stop me from doing it.


:lol:

kwame k
03-06-2009, 03:58 PM
wha? where's that one from?????

kwame k
03-06-2009, 04:00 PM
never mind found it

hideyoursheep
03-07-2009, 03:09 AM
I did a short stint in the county slammer once and someone
had glued a picture of Jane Fonda on the bottom of the top bunk
right above my bunk.
I hate that commie traitor bitch but she was looking pretty good
in her tight leotard.
Every time I looked at her to pleasure myself I felt like a traitor.
Of course that didn't stop me from doing it.



:confused13::duh:

Yeah, okay....:pinocchio:


Glued to the bunk?
I doubt it was glue.:jizzz:

I also doubt you were able to procure the bottom bunk.

Unless you fought for it, or did some nutrubs!:anal:












I seriously doubt there was a picture at all!


Maybe it was Henry you were spanking it to?
:wanker: