Beware the NWO...

[Coyote]

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I can tell you probably don't believe this. Do me a favor... spread it around...

[Blaze]

I hear what your saying Coyote, I don't agree completely that the whole NWO concept is a horrible scare thing.
I do thing that the consumerism and decadence as the standardized norm and glorified goal is creating a standard that cold lead to the scary things your video eludes.
The lower standards of cheep goods fast is starving the world. And the glorification of debauchery as a goal and a standard to achieve is ripping the very fabric that creates a safety net to prevent a society that is safe and secure both in personal safety and in societal safety.
I spent quite a bit of time looking for a graphic that explained the concept I am quickly trying to put in 100 words or less. But my file system a few years ago was non-existent and it is lost. I found a few things that state what I am trying to express but does not completely express to the full extent.
Basically, accept that debaucheries (vices) are damaging to society as a whole and limit the scope of their exploitation, just because a society will consume a "thing" does not make it a good thing.

I guess, I will have to produce another graphic to fully explain, or maybe a video this time.

In the mean time here are a few things that are close....

A warning on consumerism. (http://www.achieve-goal-setting-success.com/consumerism.html)

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[kwame k]

<DT class=quote>A functioning police state needs no police. (http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/34210.html)<DD class=author>William S. Burroughs <DT class=quote>A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. (http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/1086.html) <DD class=author>William S. Burroughs </DD>

[Coyote]

The one thing I'd truly like to know about all this... is the motivation as to why go through such elaborate schemes.

To keep us on a tight leash? Possibly, but there's got to be a reason for that.

I want the truth, even if I couldn't handle it.

[Blaze]

You might be over thinking it, coyote.
The grand conspiracy, might be nothing more than corruption and ignoble manors.


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and some of it might just be the the growing pains of enlightenment and evolution of humans.

[BITEYOASS]

Speaking of the NWO, it's time to break out the tin foil hats cause it's ALEX JONES:

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[Blaze]

Conspiracy Fail:biggrin:

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[Coyote]

Somehow I wish I'd written this tune...
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[Andy Taylor]

At least some people are overcoming their brainwashing.

[Blaze]

~The Cabal~
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:P


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[ELVIS]

The New World Order will be upon us the second we have a one world currency with a central world bank...

That's also when the mark of the beast will be required to buy and sell...


:elvis:

[binnie]

The New World Order will be upon us the second we have a one world currency with a central world bank...



It's unlikely that'll happen in our lifetime though isn't it? We don't even have a unified system of bank regulations, let alone one unifed bank.

[Coyote]

G20 Leaders To Give $1 Trillion To IMF, World Bank

LONDON — Anxiously assembled at the most perilous moment for the global economy since the Great Depression, the world's financial powers pledged more than $1 trillion Thursday for emergency loans to contain the contagion. But they rebuffed President Barack Obama's bid for new stimulus spending and made no guarantees of success.

"This was the day the world came together to fight back against global recession," declared British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, the summit host, as he led a choreographed show of unity designed to boost confidence in homes and boardrooms everywhere. "This is just the beginning," added Obama.

No one promised an immediate impact, and all agreed much remained to be done.

Besides promising $1.1 trillion for lending to less-well-off countries _ an effort to erect an economic firewall and prop up remaining markets for bigger nations' exports _ the Group of 20 industrial and developing countries vowed major efforts to clean up banks' tattered balance sheets and get credit flowing again, to shut down global tax havens and to tighten regulation over hedge funds and other financial high-flyers in the U.S. and elsewhere.

But French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel failed to get the powerful "global regulator" they sought with authority across borders, an idea opposed by the United States. The leaders did agree to some expanded international oversight, including cracking down on hedge funds and tax havens.

Collectively, the measures were an attempt to free the clogged pipes of capitalism, so spending, lending, borrowing and manufacturing can expand instead of continuing to retreat.

European and U.S. markets surged ahead of the concluding summit communique, and Wall Street held most of its gains after the results were announced late Thursday.

Unlike previous Western-dominated summits, this gathering included China, India and other economic giants as well as rising powers. Said Brown: "I think the new world order is emerging, and with it the foundations of a new and progressive era of international cooperation."

Obama, in his first major venture into international diplomacy, failed to get U.S. trading partners to spend more money on job-creating stimulus programs, as the U.S. and Britain have done. The proposal was opposed strongly by France and Germany.

"I think we did OK," Obama told reporters afterward. "When I came here, it was with the intention of listening and learning, but also providing American leadership. And I think the document that has been produced as well as concrete actions reflect a range of our priorities."

"In life there are no guarantees; in economics there are no guarantees," he said.

Both Brown and Obama were asked directly, "What happened today to help the world economy," and they both sidestepped the question.

Sarkozy, who at one point had threatened to walk out if he didn't get his way on international regulation, said he was happy with the outcome. Obama "helped me on tax havens," Sarkozy told reporters. "He's a very open man. It was completely in line with what we wanted."

Police were out in force, swarming the east London riverside meeting site Thursday as demonstrators protested world poverty and climate change. A French daredevil scaled a London insurance building to unfurl a banner, entertaining people on the ground. He was led away by police.

It was a high wire act inside the ExCel center, too, where summit partners gathered.

In an effort to offset their inability to agree on the more divisive proposals, the G-20 leaders outlined a raft of policies to rebuild trust in the financial system, including guidelines for new openness.

"The era of banking secrecy is over," said a statement issued by the G-20.

The meeting was a follow-up to one last Nov. 15 in Washington, when the group vowed to resist national protectionism that hampers world trade and to take steps to overhaul the global financial system. The economy is considerably worse now than it was then _ and expectations for breakthroughs had been limited.

Participants sought to trumpet the achievements and not dwell on what they couldn't accomplish. Obama called the summit "a turning point in our pursuit of global economic recovery."

The summit partners renewed vows not to turn inward or pass protectionist policies, even though since the November meeting 17 of the 20 core members, including the United States, have acted to protect domestic industries. In the U.S. those actions have included bailouts for Detroit automakers and a "buy American" provision in the $787 billion stimulus package passed by Congress.

The U.S., which has committed nearly $2 trillion to bailing out failed financial companies and trying to prod consumer spending and job creation, had urged other wealthy countries to do likewise. But European countries, fearful that such deficit spending would rekindle the kind of runaway inflation that marked the 1920s, resisted, suggesting that the stimulus steps they had already taken were sufficient.

Brown, the host, said the communique put out by the group "reflects a very high degree of consensus and agreement."

In the boldest moves of the summit, G-20 participants announced a tripling of loans available to the International Monetary Fund, to $750 billion, a $250 billion expansion in a special IMF fund to help members' foreign exchange reserves, and $250 billion to the IMF to support trade. They also agreed to sell IMF-held gold to poor countries.

The G-20 leaders also said that developing nations _ hard-hit and long complaining of marginalization _ should have a greater say in world economic affairs. Steven Schrage, a former U.S. trade official who is now an international business analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, gave the G-20 credit for bolstering the IMF, but said much more needs to be done.

"Given the circumstances, they handled it well. But when you look at this global fire that continued to spread over the last five months, there's still not a clear way forward on a lot of the critical challenges," he said. "There's still no real agreement on stimulus going forward."

Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/02/g20-leaders-to-give-1-tri_n_182303.html)




Such big words... Even if it is about money made out of thin air... and a self-perpetuated problem...

[binnie]

It's all rhetoric. A great proportion of that money has already been announced before in separate actions taken by individual countries - this is not 1.1 Trillion on 'new' money.

The 'unity' and 'single purpose' on display at the G20 is purely posturing - there is absolutely no chance of a 'New World Order' emerging. It seems clear to me that much of Europe is very wary of the relationship between Britain and America.

Given that the world banking system is so inter-related and inter-dependent, I think it's a good thing that dialogue and negotiations are open. But until banks are forced to disclose what 'toxic assets' they have, and until a system of regulation is enforced across the globe to prevent such ridiculous lending that has occured over the last 10 years, then pumping money into the system is pissing into the wind. This will not make the banks lend to one another, which is the REAL cause of the stagnation.

[Coyote]

The 'unity' and 'single purpose' on display at the G20 is purely posturing - there is absolutely no chance of a 'New World Order' emerging. It seems clear to me that much of Europe is very wary of the relationship between Britain and America.

Us Europeans do have that thing... what's it called... "critical thinking"?
Or was it "suspicion"? The technical term slips me...

But, there is SOMETHING emerging. Luckily, these guys behind the curtain follow specific rules which state they must let us, "the victims", know what they're doing.

Even if they do so in covert ways. (subliminals, symbolism which only they recognize, etc.) I've yet to figure it out. Good thing is, it's easy to spot.


Given that the world banking system is so inter-related and inter-dependent, I think it's a good thing that dialogue and negotiations are open. But until banks are forced to disclose what 'toxic assets' they have, and until a system of regulation is enforced across the globe to prevent such ridiculous lending that has occured over the last 10 years, then pumping money into the system is pissing into the wind. This will not make the banks lend to one another, which is the REAL cause of the stagnation.

I'd trust these people more if there were different persons involved.
The more ya see the same characters pop up in various places, the more one starts thinking...

[Coyote]

Say what you may about this guy (or my posts), but he's got a point...

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[Blaze]

Do you 2 know how difficult it is not to spend the rest of the day making scary conspiracy movies. :D
Maybe, a few Jpegs will have to do. :D

Not mine, but it's a start.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/1618373267_a515f8f84c.jpg

David Lindes (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lindes/1618373267/)

[Blaze]

Opps.... supposed to be scary and money is the theme......

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3251566109_6e5fc4e980_o.jpg

However, if you would like information on banking that limits usury and focus on ethical usage....

Oh... you would have to quit being scared if you took and aliened with people that thought usury was not a good thing...

I like the space alien talk better.... nottin' we can do about them space aliens.

[Coyote]

I like the space alien talk better.... nottin' we can do about them space aliens.

Don't get me started on that, or I'll post all 6&#189; hours of "Hoagland's Mars" up here!

Which reminds me...




































































Ever wonder why NASA censored most of the moon landing pics? :D

[binnie]

Us Europeans do have that thing... what's it called... "critical thinking"?
Or was it "suspicion"? The technical term slips me...

But, there is SOMETHING emerging. Luckily, these guys behind the curtain follow specific rules which state they must let us, "the victims", know what they're doing.

Even if they do so in covert ways. (subliminals, symbolism which only they recognize, etc.) I've yet to figure it out. Good thing is, it's easy to spot.


I'd trust these people more if there were different persons involved.
The more ya see the same characters pop up in various places, the more one starts thinking...

I know what you mean, but I actually think that these people are too stupid to be that devious....

[Coyote]

I know what you mean, but I actually think that these people are too stupid to be that devious....

Well, they're the ones who want to control the world for the sake of control.
Like a kid wanting something for Christmas using "Because I want it!" as a reason why.



What're they gonna do when (if?) they get what they want?
Go home?
Retire?


I don't know, but my interest is fading rapidly... I actually pity da fools now.

[ELVIS]

The world is a step closer to a global currency, backed by a global central bank, running monetary policy for all humanity.

03 Apr 2009 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/5096524/The-G20-moves-the-world-a-step-closer-to-a-global-currency.html)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45621000/jpg/_45621955_hi007105584.jpg

A single clause in Point 19 of the communiqu&#233; issued by the G20 leaders amounts to revolution in the global financial order.

"We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250bn (&#163;170bn) into the world economy and increase global liquidity," it said. SDRs are Special Drawing Rights, a synthetic paper currency issued by the International Monetary Fund that has lain dormant for half a century.

It has been a good summit for the IMF. Its fighting fund for crises is to be tripled overnight to $750bn. This is real money.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director, said in February that the world was "already in Depression" and risked a slide into social disorder and military conflict unless political leaders resorted to massive stimulus.

He has not won everything he wanted. The spending plan was fudged. While Gordon Brown talked of $5 trillion in global stimulus by 2010, this is mostly made up of packages already under way.

But Mr Strauss-Kahn at least has resources fit for his own task. He will need them. The IMF is already bailing out Pakistan, Iceland, Latvia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia and Romania. This week Mexico became the first G20 state to ask for help. It has secured a precautionary credit line of $47bn.

Gordon Brown said it took 15 years for the world to grasp the nettle after Great Crash in 1929. "This time I think people will agree that it has been different," he said.

President Barack Obama was less dramatic. "I think we did OK," he said. Bretton Woods in 1944 was a simpler affair. "Just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy, that's an easy negotiation, but that's not the world we live in."

There will be $250bn in trade finance to kick-start shipping after lenders cut back on Letters of Credit after September's heart attack in the banking system. Global trade volumes fell at annual rate of 41pc from November to January, according to Holland's CPB institute – the steepest peacetime fall on record.

Euphoria swept emerging markets yesterday as the first reports of the IMF boost circulated. Investors now know that countries like Mexico can arrange a credit facility able to cope with major shocks – and do so on supportive terms, rather than the hair-shirt deflation policies of the old IMF. Fear is receding again.

The Russians had hoped their idea to develop SDRs as a full reserve currency to challenge the dollar would make its way on to the agenda, but at least they got a foot in the door.

There is now a world currency in waiting. In time, SDRs are likely evolve into a parking place for the foreign holdings of central banks, led by the People's Bank of China. Beijing's moves this week to offer $95bn in yuan currency swaps to developing economies show how fast China aims to break dollar dependence.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the summit had achieved more than he ever thought possible, and praised Gordon Brown for pursuing the collective interest as host rather than defending "Anglo-Saxon" interests. This has a double-edged ring, for it suggests that Mr Brown may have traded pockets of the British financial industry to satisfy Franco-German demands. The creation of a Financial Stability Board looks like the first step towards a global financial regulator. The devil is in the details.

Hedge funds deemed "systemically important" will come under draconian restraints. How this is enforced will determine whether Mayfair's hedge-fund industry – 80pc of all European funds are there – will continue to flourish.

It seems that hedge funds have been designated for ritual sacrifice, even though they played no more than a cameo role in the genesis of this crisis. It was not they who took on extreme debt leverage: it was the banks – up to 30 times in the US and nearer 60 times for some in Europe that used off-books "conduits" to increase their bets. The market process itself is sorting this out in any case – brutally – forcing banks to wind down their leverage. The problem right now is that this is happening too fast.

But to the extent that this G20 accord makes it impossible for the "shadow banking" to resurrect itself in the next inevitable cycle of risk appetite, it may prevent another disaster of this kind.

The key phrase is "new rules aimed at avoiding excessive leverage and forcing banks to put more money aside during good times." This is more or less what the authorities agreed after the Depression. Complacency chipped away at the rules as the decades passed. It is the human condition, and we can't change that.


:elvis:

[Andy Taylor]

This is scary shit. Seems to me people are determined to sleep walk their way into an Orwellian society. Beats me how anyone can allow the concentration of power in a few hands, thinking it's ok ... it's all unfolding right before our eyes.

I feel sick at how Obama and Brown like their predecessors grin at the camera as they help further the globalists agenda.

[Blaze]

Ya'll so goofy...


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[Andy Taylor]

You thicko, that was a mainstream article up there. How unthinking can you get?

[Blaze]

Oh,, I thought we were talking about spooky signs and symbols and how it proves who is in the conspirecy......
Silly me....

Are you telling me Michael is not the Calbal...???
I know I saw a video of him with the Cabal spooky eletricty.....


Gee, I just notice... silly me... Cabal is the aliens.....

We are looking for symboling of a religious order.....
Oh wait....
Now I am confused.....
Explain to me... was or was not that a religious order using symboling to explain who is in on the United World Order conspiracy???

[Seshmeister]

David Icke a mentally ill ex TV sports presenter who for years walked around in a purple costume claiming to be Jesus and now says the world is being run by lizard people in disguise(like V) is 'mainstream' in your world....?

[Andy Taylor]

It's easier to pretend to be obtuse isn't it? I'm talking about the telegraph article in Elvis' post.

[Blaze]

Conspiracy Fail:biggrin:

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[Blaze]

It's easier to pretend to be obtuse isn't it? I'm talking about the telegraph article in Elvis' post.

I am sooooo proud!!!!! You learned a new word and spelled it correct!
Makes me want to twittle toes! :hug:

BTW, wish you would have told me about and those gathered papers I heard from the Rmms .

[Andy Taylor]

I wish I knew what you were even talking about. Are you tripping out on something per chance?

That post was for s-meister btw.

[Blaze]

you mean the other obtuse post?

[Andy Taylor]

What are you on about?

Anyway ... another barf moment.

Barack Obama&#39;s New World Order (http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599188951200)

On the surface this looks like a great thing, as if O'bubba is actually taking the world's opinions seriously. I'd say it's more like getting rid of the Washington consensus and replacing it with something larger, say a globalist consensus. More countries (the larger ones "on the move") will have a say on which countries should be invaded for whatever reason. It's not like he's going to ask Haiti or even the people in Afghanistan about anything ... before he bombs them. And he's right in saying America is not as important on the world stage as it was ... considering the US will become part of the North American "union." And seeing as Brussels is the capital of the EU I'd say Mexico city or Ottawa will be the NA capital.

[binnie]

This is all a storm in a tea cup.

Most of the money pledged yesterday had already been announced by the individual governments in recent months. There is very little 'new' going on at the G-20.

It is all a show of unity, not a coordinated plan to create a New World Order. Given the complete lack of unity that 'Europe' has shown since the crisis really kicked in last year, any idea that our leaders are unified in a conspiracy against us is laughable....

[ELVIS]

Keep laughing...

[Blaze]

pointing and whispering would be more appropriate

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4663450/People1879whisper-main_Full.jpg
;) :KissKisshug:

[Andy Taylor]

This is all a storm in a tea cup.

Most of the money pledged yesterday had already been announced by the individual governments in recent months. There is very little 'new' going on at the G-20.

It is all a show of unity, not a coordinated plan to create a New World Order. Given the complete lack of unity that 'Europe' has shown since the crisis really kicked in last year, any idea that our leaders are unified in a conspiracy against us is laughable....


Lack of unity or no they seem to have agreed on a move towards a single currency. And seemingly they always find the right crisis when they need it. Ron Paul's been talking about the financial meltdown for yearsand he mentioned the one currency move in December.

[Blaze]

you know T, just because you run short end conspirators and your "friends" thinks, it is OK while looking to conspire against you. Does not mean the whole world finds corruption a means to justify the ends.

[Coyote]

And seemingly they always find the right crisis when they need it.

Problem - Reaction - Solution...

[Andy Taylor]

..
you know t, just because you run short end conspirators and your "friends" thinks, it is ok while looking to conspire against you. Does not mean the whole world finds corruption a means to justify the ends.

???

[Andy Taylor]

Problem - Reaction - Solution...

Exactly that.

[Blaze]

Problem - Reaction - Solution...

Problem - sit on thumb and spin - masturbate


would that be the preferred chain of events

[Coyote]

Problem - sit on thumb and spin - masturbate


would that be the preferred chain of events


I can tell you're not exactly a fan...

Spread it around...

[Blaze]

A fan of what?
conspircies?
No I am not.
A fan of alliosion and colluision?
No I am not.
A fan of spooky eletiricty?
No, I understand eletricity it is not scary.
I can be deadly and should be respected and handled by the rules....
I have noticed those buying into this grand conspirecy theme dable in conspirecies them selves.
Myself, I am generally quite open about what I want to change and what I will do to get that change.
Do I know there are wackos out there that contrive and conspire, yes I do, first hand. Do I know how hard they are to collar, yes I generally do

[binnie]

Lack of unity or no they seem to have agreed on a move towards a single currency. And seemingly they always find the right crisis when they need it. Ron Paul's been talking about the financial meltdown for yearsand he mentioned the one currency move in December.

Given that UK hasn't joined the Euro so far, what chance do you think there is of us joining a 'world' currency? Do you also think that the US people will give up the dollar?

Even if there was an 'evil plan' to bring in an Orwellian distopia, can you honestly imagine the people's of either country standing for a single currency?

[ELVIS]

Man...

We put proof in front of your eyes and you just drool or something...

You're all either braindead or brainwashed...


:elvis:

[binnie]

What proof?

So far there are no new international banking regulations; no timescale for an international currency; and most of the 1.1 Trillion is made up of money ALREADY PLEDGED by each individual country involved in recent months.

The G-20 didn't really do much at all.

[Andy Taylor]

Far as I know, this is the second mainstream article on it and you have twats like the French president atleast speaking favourably about "global governance". We're getting there... the Amero is also a reality. The US people have probably been seeing this in the news too but so far we haven't heard much of a protest.

I hope the UK continues to hold out.

[Coyote]

What proof?

So far there are no new international banking regulations; no timescale for an international currency; and most of the 1.1 Trillion is made up of money ALREADY PLEDGED by each individual country involved in recent months.

Of course there aren't, yet. There'd be too much opposition if they'd flat out announce that such things are coming. So they'll start out small.

Kinda like how the EU used to be just a free trade zone...

And since when did a system repair itself after insane amounts of money was poured into it?

[ELVIS]

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:elvis:

[FORD]

Right wing hysterical videos are bad enough. Right wing hysterical videos with computerized voices? Intolerable.

[Blaze]

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:D
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[ELVIS]

~Ha!~


:elvis:

[Blaze]

:D so much of you Elvis, that you are quite the commoner.
;)

[Seshmeister]

Right wing hysterical videos are bad enough. Right wing hysterical videos with computerized voices? Intolerable.

The funny thing is the jump that if the government has coffins then it wants to fill them. :)

Also again assuming that they are coffins it is funny how this super secret plan to kill people involves placing all the coffins in plain view.

[Blaze]

Or has coffin at all. Just saying...

[Seshmeister]

Why wouldn't the emergency planning department have a big supply of coffins?

Everyone seemed to find it a bit upsetting when after Katrina bodies were lying in the street for weeks like a third world country.

The figures I heard were 150 000. The big flu epidemic which is overdue could kill 100 times that...

[Blaze]

I meant that to note that if mass killing were to happen, why bother with coffins?
That would be a waste of time and space to place the dead in a coffin and then dispose of the coffin.

And your right, given natural disasters around the world a good supply immediate supply is needed. Much better than body bags, a little bulkier but better suited for a difficult natural disaster.

[Nitro Express]

It's unlikely that'll happen in our lifetime though isn't it? We don't even have a unified system of bank regulations, let alone one unifed bank.

It's secret that people like David Rockefeller have dreamed of consolidating economic, religious, political, and military power on a global scale. Basically it's the modern equivalent of 19th century robber barons dreaming big.

These elite families have dreamed of this for a long time. Doing it is another thing.

I mean if people were smart they just would refuse to use the corporate system these fuckers control. They only have power if we agree to do business with the institutions they own and control.

[Nitro Express]

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:elvis:

FEMA can't find it's ass with both hands. If FEMA is after us then hallaluja! Not exactly the Nazi SS or gestapo caliber organization. Those coffins probably will sit unused in a field like those trailers did.

[Nitro Express]

I meant that to note that if mass killing were to happen, why bother with coffins?
That would be a waste of time and space to place the dead in a coffin and then dispose of the coffin.

And your right, given natural disasters around the world a good supply immediate supply is needed. Much better than body bags, a little bulkier but better suited for a difficult natural disaster.

Yup. They would just dig a mass grave with a bulldozer throw the bodies in and maybe dump some quick lime on top of them and push the dirt over. The coffins is just another let's sell overpriced shit to the govt. type deal. Some FEMA insider is probably getting a kick back or even owns part of the company making the dumb things.

[Nitro Express]

Speaking of the NWO, it's time to break out the tin foil hats cause it's ALEX JONES:

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He lost me with his 9/11 was an inside job but he is right about the Wall Street take over of Washington DC. The big banks are consolidating power through the federal govt. Sure the guy is extreme. I don't know if he really believes in what he says or if it's a marketing gimmick to sell videos and books.

That being said, I avoid doing business with big banks and corporations that are corrupt. These institutions have shown us how corrupt they are. I certainly don't trust them anymore.

[Nitro Express]

The funny thing is crackpots like David Icke and Alex Jones actually do a real good job of explaining the global banking system. David Icke explains it better than may finance professors in college did. No shit. LOL! The world is indeed one hell of a strange place.

[Seshmeister]

FEMA can't find it's ass with both hands. If FEMA is after us then hallaluja! Not exactly the Nazi SS or gestapo caliber organization. Those coffins probably will sit unused in a field like those trailers did.

These people are useless just like the NWO stuff is bullshit.

All this conspiracy crap relies on brilliant plans by hidden geniuses but most of the elite are a bunch of dumb fucks.

[Coyote]

All this conspiracy crap relies on brilliant plans by hidden geniuses but most of the elite are a bunch of dumb fucks.

Thank you for the fresh perspective. :)

[Andy Taylor]

He lost me with his 9/11 was an inside job but he is right about the Wall Street take over of Washington DC. The big banks are consolidating power through the federal govt. Sure the guy is extreme. I don't know if he really believes in what he says or if it's a marketing gimmick to sell videos and books.

That being said, I avoid doing business with big banks and corporations that are corrupt. These institutions have shown us how corrupt they are. I certainly don't trust them anymore.

How do you see the events of 9.11?

[Seshmeister]

Oh jeez you're not one of those are you?

[binnie]

Oh jeez you're not one of those are you?

A Duran Duran fan?

I'm afraid he is.

[Blaze]

Wut I want to know, is I have all but confessed to making conspiracy videos for entertainment and with my imagination being the source of the conspiracy. How do you know which are mine?
Does my creative endeavors make me a part of the vast conspiracy?

[lesfunk]

It's that fucking Western Illuminati! Cocksuckers!

[Andy Taylor]

Oh jeez you're not one of those are you?

This is for you.

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[Andy Taylor]

A Duran Duran fan?

I'm afraid he is.

A proud one.

This is for you.


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[Andy Taylor]

Wut I want to know, is I have all but confessed to making conspiracy videos for entertainment and with my imagination being the source of the conspiracy. How do you know which are mine?
Does my creative endeavors make me a part of the vast conspiracy?


Because the "conspiracies" I watch are taken from many mainstream sources and even otherwise have some basis in fact.

[ELVIS]

"We know we need strict controls in a changing world."

Tony (ten times worse than Bush) Blair


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

I can see why Sesh downplays any possibility of government involvement in terrorism...

Big Brother is watching, which is the model Obama has in mind for the US...

While the pacifist Europeans put up with it, believing the government is taking care of them, I pray the real US citizens will stand up against any form of tyranny...


Give US liberty or give US death!


:elvis:

[Andy Taylor]

On a personal level Tony is indeed worse than Bush who was a puppet really.




http://neilbeynon.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/young_tony_blair1.jpg


Even as a "hippy" teen musician he looked like a slimy twat. And there are women today who go for this guy? They should be sterilised and quarantined from society.

This photo is clearly from a time when he hadn't practised for not looking like a sleazy pervert.

[ELVIS]

He looks loaded and evil as hell...

[Andy Taylor]

I question the intelligence of anyone who can be misled by words even as this guy smirks his evil smirk at them. How bad a judge of character one must be not to look at this or faces like these and not see the evil.

[Blaze]

Because the "conspiracies" I watch are taken from many mainstream sources and even otherwise have some basis in fact.

:lmao:
Tell me you didn't

We all know that stories are not produced for value.............



A world exclusive set of pictures showing wacky pop star Michael Jackson sleeping in a bizarre pressurised oxygen chamber. The images - shot in 1986 and featured in The National Enquirer - show the star in the hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Jackson, then 28, was at the height of his fame when the pictures were taken and the publication claimed the regime was part of a plan to keep him alive until at least 150. The Enquirer quoted the singer as saying: "I've taken several long naps in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber and when I awoke I felt like a new person - I've never felt better. I definitely want one for my home so I can sleep in it at night. I plan to get one immediately. I want to live to see world peace, a world without hunger, a world where children and all mankind know no suffering.
I believe if I treat my body properly I'll live to be at least 150."

http://photos.commongate.com/12/49107_82z5yzre14_l.jpg


No one would give a contrived story. Or have motivation to let a contrived story exist.



He cared not a whit, it seemed. But that man is gone now, replaced by a shaking, weeping, lost soul. It doesn’t matter if it’s an act or not, Lynne realizes: Just the mere fact that the mighty Mr. Mike would appear in public abject, face wet, no matter how sincere or false that display might be, means the Don has fallen. The aura of disdain for authority, of stubborn invincibility, can never be recovered. Mr. Mike is no more.

“I’m so sorry,” he says one last time. And then he cannot speak another word. His plea dissolves into choking sobs.

Just saying...

[Coyote]

"We know we need strict controls in a changing world."

Tony (ten times worse than Bush) Blair


:elvis:

Who are "we", Mr. Blair?

[binnie]

I question the intelligence of anyone who can be misled by words even as this guy smirks his evil smirk at them. How bad a judge of character one must be not to look at this or faces like these and not see the evil.

So you haven't voted Labour in the last three General Elections?

Does that mean you voted Conservative - that really IS a sign of supporting evil?

[Andy Taylor]

I'm not a citizen, I didn't vote.

[binnie]

Ahhh...

Then you don't have to share in my quandary of having no-one to vote FOR when the next election comes.

I can honestly say that I've never voted for Blair, however....

[Andy Taylor]

Are you in the UK?

[Seshmeister]

This is for you.

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Not for me, its aimed at gullible stupid people with no ability to see through internet bullshitters.

[Seshmeister]

Ahhh...

Then you don't have to share in my quandary of having no-one to vote FOR when the next election comes.

I can honestly say that I've never voted for Blair, however....

Even with a choice of about 5 at each election?

I know what you mean though.

I should vote Conservative for the UK parliament at the next election as it would be in my interest for a couple of reasons but I just can't and never will. :)

[Andy Taylor]

Not for me, its aimed at gullible stupid people with no ability to see through internet bullshitters.

Sheep.

[ELVIS]

Please disperse! Nothing to see here!


Idiots!


:elvis:

[Seshmeister]

Sheep.

Yeah you could call them that too.

The kind of people who trust the crap put out by college dropouts about buildings collapsing on 9/11 rather than listen to professors of civil engineering.

[Andy Taylor]

No, I call you that, you who pretends to be all about fact and reasoning.

[Andy Taylor]

Did you even watch the video?

Well if you think that was a conspiracy theory, what about this from the mainstream?


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[Andy Taylor]

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[Seshmeister]

Did you even watch the video?


I got to 6 minutes by which time it had stated as fact a few things which are just not true. It was using the usual 'alternative media' trick of twisting or exaggerating an initial point and then piling shit on top of it.

Or getting incredibly excited about a minor detail like a train time being misreported and giving it great gravitas woooh.

The main difference about this one is they aren't using the usual calm female voice narration instead going for a calm male voice.

[Andy Taylor]

I do know the police lied for that incident where they shot that guy dead running for the train.

What isn't true?

[Seshmeister]

I think it's a shame I won't live to see a New World Order.

Getting rid of countries is the only way we will get rid of wars, poverty, exploitation, injustice, and basically most of the terrible things in the world. We could bring universal health care to the third world and the USA.

Why people would get so uptight about it beats me. I think the people that do get upset have no handle on how entirely insignificant their vote or anything else is already.

Voting in an election of 6 billion is basically the same as voting in an election of 300 million.

[Seshmeister]

I do know the police lied for that incident where they shot that guy dead running for the train.



They did and they got caught.

[Andy Taylor]

I think it's a shame I won't live to see a New World Order.

Getting rid of countries is the only way we will get rid of wars, poverty, exploitation, injustice, and basically most of the terrible things in the world. We could bring universal health care to the third world and the USA.

Why people would get so uptight about it beats me. I think the people that do get upset have no handle on how entirely insignificant their vote or anything else is already.

Voting in an election of 6 billion is basically the same as voting in an election of 300 million.


Good gracious... I have some hippy ideals (which I know are ideals only) but to place this kind of trust in governments? You feel Blair was not a crook? And now this kind of power is going to be centralised and consolidated in the hands of even fewer people.

With this kind of thinking what was the purpose of resisting the third reich when they were clearly a far more superior, advanced society and could have whipped Britain and the rest of the world into shape? They would only have exterminated a few peoples, probably not Brit races and everyone could have lived peacefully under German skies spheaking ze proudd tongue of the fatherland.

Justice will only exist when everyone is equally armed, then no one would mess with anyone else. And something should be done about the media.

[Seshmeister]

What isn't true?

I'm not going to waste all night taking you point by point through this crap, you can do that with Nick he seems to enjoy it I have better things to do. :)

But for a start I agree with Blair it would have been a Ludicrous Diversion to have a public inquiry into a few bombs going off. People call for public inquiries for everything without realising what a public inquiry entails in the UK. These things are huge and last for years.

Secondly you may not know that there were 3 other conspirators in the bombings who did not blow themselves up and were convicted in a UK court. They were represented by Joel Bennathan, Andrew Hall, Michael Wolkind some of the finest, cleverest lawyers in the UK.

Neither they nor their lawyers challenged the FACT that MSK, Tanweer, Hussein, Lindsey killed 52 people plus themselves with 4 homemade bombs on 7/7/05.

Don't you think that if they believed that it was a terrible injustice, the pals of the defendants were innocent and the bombs were placed by the security services they might have bloody well mentioned it by now, instead of completely accepting and agreeing with the facts of 7/7 bombings?

As an example of bullshit, this stupid film starts almost immediately on the crap about how could there be an exercise of the exact same scenario happening at the exact same 3 stations on the day of the bombings. This nonsense was debunked years ago by a proper news outlet.

Channel 4 - News - Coincidence of bomb exercises? (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/coincidence+of+bomb+exercises/109010)

[Andy Taylor]

That's an argument I normally hear from Euro's. Wars are not going to cease, the nwo is a plan to keep things going in the rulers favour, so in order to maintain their position at the top that means going back to a feudal system. We will accept this because we will be permanently in a state of war, one day with "the malabar front", the next in a cave in Afghanistan. We already exist in such a world, but clearly some people believe they are above criticism and don't want to have to waste time being accountable to us peasants. That's why you have the consolidation of power everywhere. The media, countries, continents, everything is being integrated. This is no utopia being planned here...

[Seshmeister]

Good gracious... I have some hippy ideals (which I know are ideals only) but to place this kind of trust in governments? You feel Blair was not a crook? And now this kind of power is going to be centralised and consolidated in the hands of even fewer people.

With this kind of thinking what was the purpose of resisting the third reich when they were clearly a far more superior, advanced society and could have whipped Britain and the rest of the world into shape? They would only have exterminated a few peoples, probably not Brit races and everyone could have lived peacefully under German skies spheaking ze proudd tongue of the fatherland.

Justice will only exist when everyone is equally armed, then no one would mess with anyone else. And something should be done about the media.

What a crock of shit.

Who said I liked Blair?

My NWO is a democracy not a Nazi dictatorship. The EU proves that that large democratic confederations of countries working to common rules and values leads to peace,prosperity and a raised level of human rights and welfare.

Its got faults but is better. Replicated across the world we could sort out shitholes like India. :)

[Seshmeister]

This is no utopia being planned here...

You make the #1 mistake of all conspiracy theory nuts, you just can't handle the fact that there is NO plan. You hate the randomness of the world and like to think there are these evil genius Illuminati moving every world event around.

I'm afraid there aren't.

[Blaze]

You make the #1 mistake of all conspiracy theory nuts, you just can't handle the fact that there is NO plan. You hate the randomness of the world and like to think there are these evil genius Illuminati moving every world event around.

I'm afraid there aren't.

T,
Sure there are people that conspire. But like Sesh says, there is no genius good, evil or otherwise moving every world event.
But, T, there are people that motivate and influence people independent of physical presence.

A friend of mine and me were just talking a few hours ago, and I told him without full disclosure, I cannot give formidable advise. That he should find someone he is comfortable disclosing to for an adviser. Furthermore, I went on to tell him that if gave him advise with partial knowledge it would not be a formidable conclusion. The point is, if he takes my advise partially, makes up parts and uses it; it is his, not mine. I have done nothing but influence his view. We did not conspire.

And it is the persons choice, usually, who they allow to influence their perception.

[ELVIS]

I think it's a shame I won't live to see a New World Order.

Getting rid of countries is the only way we will get rid of wars, poverty, exploitation, injustice, and basically most of the terrible things in the world. We could bring universal health care to the third world and the USA.




We ??

Now you sound like Blair Jr.

I'm starting to think it's too bad that the USA protected Europe since WWII and throughout the cold war and the twenty plus years since...

Your ideals would be much different, I believe...


:elvis:

[BITEYOASS]

In the back of most conspiracy theories are crazy greedy fucks trying to make a quick buck. Their on the same level as televangelists, always trying to gain a big following in order to keep the money flowing.

[ELVIS]

They're

[Blaze]

T43Y*R3:biggrin:

[Blaze]

Animated Documentary-Mockumentary about Evil in western civilization from Ancient Greece to present day.

After all the comments I feel like some clarification is in order, but firstly, to you guys that liked it:

Thanks, you've made my day.

The film was intended to show what people have believed in and pointed to as evil throughout history. It was meant to get you to think about what evil really is. It is meant to show that when we get too obsessed with "evil" we might end up taking part in it ourselves.

One has to separate evil and human cruelty. Human cruelty is people not being nice to one another. Evil is soemthing else, it is something we have created, a word and a concept for things that are not acceptable. It is a label for things that we do not understand and dont want to understand.

But is evil really ever a complete explanation for anything?

A lot of bad deeds has been done in the name of good. The people that did them ment good, are they evil?


OK, and finally,
This video is not meant to:

-blame wester culture and people for all the "evil" in the world. I'm european, and thought that I better stick to my own history.
-blame religion for all the evil in the world.
-claim that God is dead. (It is simply a reference to the philosopher Nietzsche, look him up.)
-offend anyone, race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.
-claim that Elvis was evil.
-be an exact and complete account of the actual events that has taken place throughout history.

This was a student project, hence the "unfinishedness" and abrupt ending. I ran out of time. I might update it later.

It was animated frame by frame in flash and composited and textured in AfterEffects.

A History of Evil

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[Blaze]

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[Blaze]

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[Seshmeister]

T,
Sure there are people that conspire. But like Sesh says, there is no genius good, evil or otherwise moving every world event.
But, T, there are people that motivate and influence people independent of physical presence.

A friend of mine and me were just talking a few hours ago, and I told him without full disclosure, I cannot give formidable advise. That he should find someone he is comfortable disclosing to for an adviser. Furthermore, I went on to tell him that if gave him advise with partial knowledge it would not be a formidable conclusion. The point is, if he takes my advise partially, makes up parts and uses it; it is his, not mine. I have done nothing but influence his view. We did not conspire.

And it is the persons choice, usually, who they allow to influence their perception.

I have to say I would worry a little about taking advice from someone who couldn't spell it. :D

[Blaze]

:umm:


advise definition | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/advise)

Am I spelling it in old English or Britian English?

advice definition | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=advice&db=luna)

[Seshmeister]

Advice is the noun, advise is the verb.

So you advise someone to listen to your advice.

[binnie]

You make the #1 mistake of all conspiracy theory nuts, you just can't handle the fact that there is NO plan. You hate the randomness of the world and like to think there are these evil genius Illuminati moving every world event around.

I'm afraid there aren't.

Amen

This is the truth as I see it.

It would be so much easier if there was someone/something to blame, but their isn't. Instead, we get the generic 'ELITES' banded about as the masterminds behind everything - who precisely 'they' constitute is rarely defined with any clarity.

[ELVIS]

Oh yeah...

The world economy is failing just because of randomness...

I don't buy that. Strings are being pulled somewhere...

[Seshmeister]

Jesus...

[Andy Taylor]

Secondly you may not know that there were 3 other conspirators in the bombings who did not blow themselves up and were convicted in a UK court. They were represented by Joel Bennathan, Andrew Hall, Michael Wolkind some of the finest, cleverest lawyers in the UK.

Neither they nor their lawyers challenged the FACT that MSK, Tanweer, Hussein, Lindsey killed 52 people plus themselves with 4 homemade bombs on 7/7/05.

Don't you think that if they believed that it was a terrible injustice, the pals of the defendants were innocent and the bombs were placed by the security services they might have bloody well mentioned it by now, instead of completely accepting and agreeing with the facts of 7/7 bombings?

As an example of bullshit, this stupid film starts almost immediately on the crap about how could there be an exercise of the exact same scenario happening at the exact same 3 stations on the day of the bombings. This nonsense was debunked years ago by a proper news outlet.

Channel 4 - News - Coincidence of bomb exercises? (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/coincidence+of+bomb+exercises/109010)


Funny how Visor didn't mention any of this back then right when the conspiracies started. This article comes after the alt media picked up on it...

And oh lawyers cannot be corrupt or be bought. Nothing shady ever happens there...




What a crock of shit.

Who said I liked Blair?

My NWO is a democracy not a Nazi dictatorship. The EU proves that that large democratic confederations of countries working to common rules and values leads to peace,prosperity and a raised level of human rights and welfare.

Its got faults but is better. Replicated across the world we could sort out shitholes like India. :)

If you don't like Blair what do you do when you grant more power to crooks like him?

It's not your NWO. And the EU is capable of launching a war against European countries. And if the UK joins and wants to leave later, there is no guarantee that Brussels will not use it's forces against the UK. Scotland may remain a 'state' but England is fast ceasing to exist and London is joining Arc Manche with Paris as it's capital. This was headlines in the papers, you know about this... though you bought the angle that it's a "closer-tie" thing.

Before you sort out India, do something about the awful hospitals in Scotland I keep hearing about, gross negligencies of emergency patients, deaths, superbug. Third worlder. :)

[Andy Taylor]

You make the #1 mistake of all conspiracy theory nuts, you just can't handle the fact that there is NO plan. You hate the randomness of the world and like to think there are these evil genius Illuminati moving every world event around.

I'm afraid there aren't.


This is where you cannot comprehend what is happening even when it is openly admitted to in the mainstream. The BBC reported that the Bilderberg set up planning for the current EU back in the 50s. Whereas everyone is lead to believe that this was the dawning of some collective wisdom among leaders and op-eds. Erm... those people got it from the heads in Bilderberg and the CFR.

I posted that CNN vid back there. That was them mentioning the Amero and NAU in 2005. 4 years later, no one else is picking up on it. Out of mainstream sight, out of mind. But it doesn't mean that it isn't happening. It's being done secretly and it is being engineered. Otherwise it wouldn't be done in the dark. Just like the Bilders and the EU.

And finally the NWO itself. Em... THAT is also now mainstream! I don't know what's the matter with you. All these "crazy" crack pot theories of the last many decades is actually happening. And it's not crazy because if we are to accept that the Bilders are hugely powerful (duh... they are the most powerful individuals) then we ought to pay attention to what it's people like Rockefeller and Kissinger are saying. And they speak of it in their books, from years back. They have a clearly stated plan of making sovereign nations a thing of the past. But in your case since you feel it's desirable then whatever. But don't count on being one of the well off elite.

[ELVIS]

Thi They have a clearly stated plan of making sovereign nations a thing of the past. But in your case since you feel it's desirable then whatever. But don't count on being one of the well off elite.

Hugo Chavez Declares "New World Order"

Larrey Anderson (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/hugo_chavez_declares_new_world.html)

http://www.voanews.com/english/images/AP_Japan_HugoChavez_07APR09.jpg

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is spending a few days in China. He doesn’t think much of the US or our new policy of “smart power” diplomacy.


"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multi-polar world," was one of the first things Chavez declared after arriving in China.

"The unipolar world has collapsed. The power of the U.S. empire has collapsed," he continued. [Emphasis added.] "Everyday, the new poles of world power are becoming stronger. Beijing, Tokyo, Tehran. It's moving toward the East and toward the South."


After Obama’s disastrous performance at the G20 conference , maybe someone should tell the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton’s State Department the news: Most of the world doesn’t view our new administration as either smart or powerful. We live in a brave new world and the Obama administration doesn’t seem to have much of a place in it.



:elvis:

[BITEYOASS]

All these conspiracy theories only tell us one thing, we're fucked unless we unite under the banner of some nutjob with a simple name. I just say fuck em' and to avoid so-called movements at all costs.

"I don't know what's gonna happen man, but I hope to get my kicks before the whole shit house goes up in flames!" - Jim Morrison

[Andy Taylor]

Hugo Chavez Declares "New World Order"

Larrey Anderson (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/hugo_chavez_declares_new_world.html)

http://www.voanews.com/english/images/AP_Japan_HugoChavez_07APR09.jpg

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is spending a few days in China. He doesn’t think much of the US or our new policy of “smart power” diplomacy.


"We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multi-polar world," was one of the first things Chavez declared after arriving in China.

"The unipolar world has collapsed. The power of the U.S. empire has collapsed," he continued. [Emphasis added.] "Everyday, the new poles of world power are becoming stronger. Beijing, Tokyo, Tehran. It's moving toward the East and toward the South."


After Obama’s disastrous performance at the G20 conference , maybe someone should tell the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton’s State Department the news: Most of the world doesn’t view our new administration as either smart or powerful. We live in a brave new world and the Obama administration doesn’t seem to have much of a place in it.



:elvis:


If there's a NWO I can't really see weaker countries banding together and going it alone. What Chavez is talking about is his is own thing, an axis to counter western might. That said, anyone can be manipulated to produce some outcome, including Chavez. It looks like the US has been marked for destabilization.

[Jesus Christ]

Jesus...

Yes, My son?