Good news for HFCS haters: Pepsi & Mt. Dew about to release a limited run with sugar!

[FORD]

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_pepsithrowbackmountaindewthrowback_alt1.jpg
Now if only they would put it in glass bottles......


Per some forum members at BevNET involved with Pepsi sales, we know that the retro flavors will be arriving in regular 20 oz. bottles with new labels. The Pepsi bottle uses the imprinted 'wave' pattern we first saw with the redesign of the Diet Pepsi line and introduction of Diet Pepsi Max in 2007.

Meanwhile, the Dew bottle maintains its vertical 'swirl' pattern. We saw these being used heavily last summer with the "DEWmocracy 3"… Mountain Dew Supernova, Mountain Dew Revolution, and Mountain Dew Voltage (by the way, Voltage won that vote).

Of interest, however, is that the label design might not follow the previous images filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. An internal promotional piece of artwork shared with the Pepsi Bottling Group illustrates a completely different look.
Pepsi Throwback
(Source: Pepsi Bottling Group)

The Pepsi bottle showcases the logo design used from 1973-91, with the Pepsi font in non-italic sitting inside the two halves of what we now refer to as the Pepsi Globe. The light, baby blue color also makes a return as an accent in the background, which is prominently white, split between a red and blue bar. It's very 80s feeling, taking on the red/white/blue color scheme that Pepsi was known for before they claimed "blue" as their official color in 1998.

The label has a weathered look, reflecting the style used during the Pepsi Retro campaign in Mexico last year. The phrase "Made with Real Sugar" adorns the top of the label, with "Refreshingly Retro" and "Limited Time Offer" in smaller print on the bottom. In fact, the "Refreshingly Retro" tagline seems to be something that Pepsi is running with here, given that it's the title of this trade piece. The last time Pepsi did a retro-themed bottle design for a mainstream product was 2004's Pepsi Holiday Spice, which was favorable accepted for its look, but apparently didn't sell well enough to warrant its return.
Mountain Dew Throwback
(Source: Pepsi Bottling Group)

On the Mountain Dew side of things, we see a return to the 'box' logo used throughout the 1970s/80s. It has a bit of a rounded top/bottom to it, but still remains the logo most folks would remember (and references Pepsi's trademark filing for the Throwback lineup).

Instead of using the references Pepsi's trademark filing previously-noted font for "Throwback" which we saw with the patent office submission — which seemed to be the same font used in the controversial new Pepsi logo — PepsiCo has gone with more of a cartoony, upper-case font to denote "Throwback" under the traditional Dew logo. It's not a very integrated way to do it, but for the customer that this product is targeting, it probably doesn't matter. Like its Pepsi sibling, the phrase "Made with Real Sugar" adorns the top of the label, with "Refreshingly Retro" and "Limited Time Offer" sitting below the logo.

It should be noted that the bottom of the information provided to the Pepsi Bottling Group regarding the design of the Throwback products have the following disclaimer: "Visuals are directional only. Final executions may vary." So this might not be the final artwork. We will see!

Per a report by Serious Eats, the pricepoint for both of these products will be the same as regular high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) sweetened Pepsi and Dew. Their availability will be from April 20-June 13, which gives you just 54 days to enjoy sugar-sweetened goodness in these beverages. Is it any coincidence that the availability of these drinks just happens to be around Passover, traditionally the time when both Kosher Coke and Kosher Pepsi have been previously available? Hmmm….


Bottle designs for Pepsi Throwback, Mountain Dew Throwback » Sugar-sweetened Pepsi-Cola and Mtn Dew without High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) » BevReview.com (http://www.bevreview.com/2009/02/19/bottle-designs-revealed-for-pepsi-throwback-mountain-dew-throwback/)

I'm not a Pepsi drinker, but hopefully this will prompt Coca Cola to expand their own US sugar operations beyond the severely limited "Kosher Coke" run. And beyond that, hopefully both companies will take the hint from skyrocketing sales to keep the "retro" formula and dump the corn poison. And I might just buy a case or two of the Mountain Dew to help them out. Always did like that stuff, before it went corny.

[LoungeMachine]

Oldest marketing scheme in the world. Bait and switch.

They want to lure buyers of other brands over, and then they'll just go back to the old formula and hope the ASmericans are too lazy/stupid to switch back....

:gulp:

Jones Soda all the way.....

[Dr. Love]

I am all over this.

[FORD]

I wouldn't give up the occasional Jones Green Apple Soda in either case. But I miss the way Mountain Dew used to taste in the 70's, so if I can have that back for a little while, I ain't gonna complain.

Truth is, I rarely drink any carbonated sugary drinks anymore anyway, even the ones without the mutant Monsanto poison.

[FORD]

I am all over this.

Can you get REAL Dr. Pepper in Dallas? I know they still make it in Dublin Tx. but I'm not sure how wide the distribution is.

You would know the difference from the packaging.....

Typical "Dr.Pepper" (owned by the BCE Carlyle Group)
http://www.adamfoods.com/Dr%20pepper%20can.jpg


Dublin Dr. Pepper (independently owned)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZiY9_OLg-gY/SK47-gJPNTI/AAAAAAAACL4/nNC6Gj-3buY/s320/dr-pepper.jpg

[Blaze]

I don't know if I have ever tasted it with real sugar. Is there really that big a difference?

[FORD]

I don't know if I have ever tasted it with real sugar. Is there really that big a difference?

Sugar is much better. Try a Mexican Coca Cola compared to the kind that comes from Atlanta. Or compare one of these Pepsi's or Mountain Dew to the typical HFCS crap when they are available.

The Mountain Dew would probably be the most noticeable. The corn taste of the HFCS really ruins anything fruit flavored even more than the colas.

[Dr. Love]

We get the normal DP everyone else gets.

[Coyote]

I'll bet this is US only...

[thome]

There is no Root in RootBeer.

There is no Ginger in Ginger Ale .

They -LIE- change formulas rip us off all day long.

There is no Lemon in Lemon Lime. Or Lime...just Citric Acid powder...

There is so little in 7UP and Sprite is has all been replaced with -HUGE- amounts of Citric Acid.

Jakc SHIT! Daniels lowered thier Black Lable PROOF from 86 to 80 without telling anyone.

But it still sais Old No.7 on the Label.

90% of all the Coke AHina.. you buy is 10% Coke and 90% Meth.


But everyone just blindly goes on buying away.

You can put whatever you want on a Label anything you want.

That is why I only eat raw meat and raw onions and wash it down with tripple distilled Gin.

Then in the weekends I snort three oz of Fruit Fresh you know that stuff people sprinkle on thier fruit dinner salads to keep the apples from turning yellow.

It is pure MSG.....I wouldn't want the neighbors to think I ain't part of society aaaaa...a outlaw or anything.....

[FORD]

I'll bet this is US only...

I don't think they use high fructose corn poison anywhere else, so it wouldn't be necessary.

[rustoffa]

It makes a world of difference (real sugar). You can get Coke (the drink) with real sugar in it @ mexi-markets and Jewish stores......makes good Jack and Coke all the better!!!!

:gulp::killer:

[Redballjets88]

It will be nice to have some mountain dew with real sugar. I don't like pepsi so I probably wont try it.

[thome]

I went to this "BRONX" ....Deli...... here in KC a new place and I walked inside and asked..... then... due to the odd layout.... were it was that I could by meat by the pound ...

I was looking for a pound of Pastrami and a pound of Swiss Cheese.

They dont have any counter and they only sell sandwiches from food distributor pre-packaged ...the same sh!t you get at Dennys when you buy a Ruben canned saurkraut ....how hard is it to make saurkraut..?.

So being as how I always want to give a person a even break I ordered a pastrami on rye with swiss, dry...(no mustard or anything)

it took them 10 min to make it and i was the only person in there who hadn't been served.

there were only 3 other people ..

I got it home and I swear to god there was only 2-3 oz of meat on the sandwich about the size of a large mouse.. 1 slice of cheesefood swiss flavored coagulated oil, slice..

This is how assholes deal with the credit crunch, a normal 10oz sandwich in a propper deli is reduced to 2 oz in a rip off non- Deli////



I threw it so hard in the trash ..\\ 8$

People from NY should come here and stab these cheap lieing pieces of crap.

Burn them out and hang them on the highest hill.

It is abomonation to the history of The Deli


Deli .....?


Labeling ........LIES!

PS I wouldn't have minded if it said "BRONX" DELI..Sandwiches.....Deli "Style"...sandwiches and they put the proper amount of pre packaged meat on it at least they would have been striving for some truth in advertising....

It is nowhere near a Deli.

Any pop you drink to get back on thread topic is water salt and usually some genetic petro chemical sucrose..non-sugar..and a large amt of citric acid powder.

The only benifit is the water is distilled and probably reverse osmosis filtered clean water heavy metal free/.

The Citric acid will rot your gut out but it is still beter than our tap water.

Just like Bottled water in "plastic bottle" FOOL... your gonna die anyway...

[WACF]

It makes a world of difference (real sugar). You can get Coke (the drink) with real sugar in it @ mexi-markets and Jewish stores......makes good Jack and Coke all the better!!!!

:gulp::killer:


Is there such thing as good jack?

I was spoiled on Crown Royal...and not the blended version I see at the Duty Free shops either...

[thome]

About 4 years ago I was in central northern missouri and I happened to be inside the last -Pepsi "Glass" Bottle Distribution Plant- left in the United States.
They were closing that year. Glass has to be cleaned collected washed you know..... plastic will kill people, but it is cheaper to manufacture...ble blla you know..... buyer beware.

I asked if i could have one and was directed to the employee lounge....

Original formula Pepsi in those tiny 10 oz bottles -GLASS- and inside the plant it is free, from one of those old .... vertical row open the glass door pull the bottle out by the sharp metal bottle cap cut your finger old style gas station machines.

I swear to you it was the finest soft drink I have ever tasted and I am not a Pepsi guy.

I would pay extra for the Artisan Style Retro products....Artisan style.??????....perhaps I would pay extra for things made the way they should be...

I did find a pop the other day that was made with pure cane sugar a ...cream soda, good stuff.


Here is what the label said, Water, Cane Sugar, Vanila...that was all.

I got such a woody I almost stole it thinking it was from god.

[FORD]

Glass bottles definitely make it taste better. That's why I'll pay twice the price for the Mexican Coke. I don't buy anything in plastic bottles when I can help it.

Wish Pepsi would include the glass as part of their retro-marketing. If not, I'll probably go with the cans. Aluminum beats plastic.

[Coyote]

I don't think they use high fructose corn poison anywhere else, so it wouldn't be necessary.

Different name out here apparently... "isoglucose".

Can't say if it's used or not, at the moment.

[WACF]

Glass bottles definitely make it taste better. That's why I'll pay twice the price for the Mexican Coke. I don't buy anything in plastic bottles when I can help it.

Wish Pepsi would include the glass as part of their retro-marketing. If not, I'll probably go with the cans. Aluminum beats plastic.


...and aluminum still sucks...

Everybody was exicted here years ago when we finally got beer in cans.

Worse thing that could of ever happened IMO...



Cans cool quickly but you can not beat a bottled beer right out of a cooler full of ice and ice water.

[thome]

They -The Them- you know...?

Spray the inside of the cans with Polyurethene the same stuff on your hardwood floors..only it probably is without the addition of aluminum oxide or lead oxide for added durability...lol
To: separate the product from contact with aluminum and thus no "tinnny" taste is emparted to the beverage.

completely innert when converted to the plastic.after the vehicle has evaporated off it still can degrade but outgassing is null.

The toxicity is time based for a certain shelf life to FDA Standards...I wouldn't drink from a 2 year old plastic beverage..lol



I know they do it for beer but I suspect it is a wide spread practice.

The only non-glass I drink out of other than glass, is 1/4 inch thick "hard" Rigid... plastic glasses like in my cabinet, I have one... 16 oz clear one. Ice water on the deck drinking glass......... booze or beer goes in glass silica only.

I would rather die of thirst than drink bottled water from those wiggly soft thin evian ...or whatever bottles .

The "liberal jagg offs" (unthinking trend chasers.) have made the plastic more biodegradeable to save the planet all the while you all are digesting pre degraded /advanced degraded plastic petro chemicals.

Jogging for health at the bussiest intersection in town at rush hr sukking in more petro and poison than a lead mine worker does in a year.While sukking on a gloppy pool of semidegraded vinyl and H2O.

They would probably be better off shoving it up thier ASS!

A polymer is a polymer in chunky shards... in the land fill... or wet semi digraded pools of poly snot...I can tell you wich one is better for our world but no-one listens....

It won't kill you. Plastics has saved this world and made it safer and more livable ,but I wish people could see trash floating in the river is no different than the trash container they are shoving whatever in.. whatever hole they shove it in.

I will never forget River Pheonix shooting Heroin and Coke in his arm but standing up for PETA and declaring how healthy you would be without Red Meat in your diet like he did.

Sad to say, him dead, in a pool of his own ego, vomit and rot made me laugh.

My apologies to his family.

There is a special place in Hell for people like me. for that comment........

[FORD]

Yeah, aluminum definitely isn't as good as glass. Grew up in a household where all the beer and pop in the house was in cans. The reasons were purely economic - my dad worked for the can company.

Now that he's retired I only see bottled beer in his refrigerator. Go figure :gulp:

[thome]

He you guys wanna make a million bucks lets invent glass beverage containers single serving... that are stackable.... it's all about shipping and storage...hmmmm
re-design the bottle....silica is silica.......natural....

shhh....our little secret........


must preserve presciuos body fluids.......clear water......grain alcohol......

Now excuse me I have run out of ciggaretts and idealistic moral condemnation.

[FORD]

Glass bottles are stackable..... or at least they are when they're in cardboard boxes.

http://www.weddingbee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/16/mexican.jpg

[thome]

I heard they trace check for aluminum, in some part of the brain during autopsy ...when attempting to determine the diagnosis of ahlzhiemers..(sp)

A family member of mine went thru that and I think that was what was done. I wasn't real close, but listened in on a few conversations..?


I seriously doubt plastic or aluminum beverage ingestion is the world main issue.
We can determine what we prefer for our own tastes....mine are biggoted.

I will normaly drink the closest beverage to me even if it comes out of a radiator...... from a junkyard 32 Ford.

I also LOVE Ramen Noodles in the Styrefoam Cup with 5 days worth of salt in it.With those tiny little shrimp...mmmmm

I just don't dig people legislating me into believing a bunch of bunk BS.

[FORD]

Yeah, I've heard about the possibility of a connection between aluminum and alzheimers. There may be something to it, which is why I don't drink out of cans very often.

But as I said, my dad worked in the industry for over 30 years, and he's pushing 78 with a memory probably better than mine, so I take that as a good sign that the connection isn't all that conclusive.

[Seshmeister]

I almost always get cans rather than plastic bottles. It's not about taste it's about temperature, plastic bottles won't get as cool in the fridge.

[rustoffa]

Is there such thing as good jack?

I was spoiled on Crown Royal...and not the blended version I see at the Duty Free shops either...

Thanks for the endearing background concerning your brushes with maple leaf liquor. I guess we'll all just start chugging plastic bottle bourbon while you nurse slow-dripping nectar from non-blended sources!!

:mad0222::mad0233:

[Guitar Shark]

Man, I wish stoff would post more.

[LoungeMachine]

I almost always get cans rather than plastic bottles. It's not about taste it's about temperature, plastic bottles won't get as cool in the fridge.

Someday Scotland will discover ice, and your troubles will be over....

:gulp:

[Little Texan]

Yet another reason (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012601831.html) to avoid HFCS like the plague.

[Panamark]

(nothing to do with sugar)

For those that dont know the good old glass v cans debate,
here's the skinny... Using Beer as the example,
in glass, Beer is in its purest form free of contaminents, just the
way it was brewed.

However clear glass lets light in.

In cans, you can get an "aluminium" or additive taste,
but the beer itself has not seen the light of day,
literally..

Apparently a beer can go off a bit if exposed to light
for certain durations..

Personally, I have found that some beers taste better
in a can, than the exact same beer in glass,
and vice versa....

I guess the ultimate would be, glass, not exposed to
light at all, until you crack it open..

Black Glass ??

[Coyote]

(nothing to do with sugar)

For those that dont know the good old glass v cans debate,
here's the skinny... Using Beer as the example,
in glass, Beer is in its purest form free of contaminents, just the
way it was brewed.

However clear glass lets light in.

In cans, you can get an "aluminium" or additive taste,
but the beer itself has not seen the light of day,
literally..

Apparently a beer can go off a bit if exposed to light
for certain durations..

Personally, I have found that some beers taste better
in a can, than the exact same beer in glass,
and vice versa....

I guess the ultimate would be, glass, not exposed to
light at all, until you crack it open..

Black Glass ??

Brown glass, as per the standard?

[Panamark]

Brown glass, as per the standard?

Apparently that even lets light in !
Im thinking of a glass that lets no light in...
Im sure I have seen black glass used for
alcohol... Theoretically, if you buy brown bottles
in a case (box) then put them in a fridge staight away,
then they wont see much light anyway.
But if you but them off the shelf, (not in a case)
and they have been there for a while, its meant
to skunk it..

Heres some info....

The photochemical reaction that skunks beer occurs very quickly; a well-hopped beer in clear glass can become noticeably offensive with just 30 seconds of exposure to sunshine. Brown glass transmits less visible light than the previously mentioned colors, and therefore offers some protection from skunking. It does allow some light through, so beer in brown bottles will skunk after a few hours of light exposure.

skunked_beer (http://www.evansale.com/skunked_beer.html)

[Coyote]

Apparently that even lets light in !
Im thinking of a glass that lets no light in...

Some uber-polarized glass bottle?

Then again, it's harder to break an aluminum can...

[Panamark]

Some uber-polarized glass bottle?



Sounds expensive to manufacture

[Nickdfresh]

I don't drink much of what we call "pop" here anymore. But I'm hardly partial to either Coke or Pepsi after a long time of preferring Coca Cola. I'm definitely going to get some of this if I can...

Actually, I used to really like Royal Crown (RC) cola, but that hasn't been the same in a long while...

[Dr. Love]

When is this supposed to happen? I want my sugar cane pepsi and dew damnit!!!

[FORD]

I believe they're rolling it out in April. So probably another couple weeks it should hit the stores?

[thome]

Black Glass ahhhh,...... Yes, My Guiness, My Love, My Lust for you, I am ,yes.... a Slave.

I know of no other Black Glass Beers. Stateside, that I have tried.

I also giggle, when the little Whirrlie Gig goes .........Weeeeeeeeeeee.

So I pop the top with spirit and speed.

Entertainment at it's Finest.

[Panamark]

I knew I had seen Black glass somehwhere !
I think some vodkas I have seen also have
used black glass...

[FORD]

Guinness in black glass? Not that I've seen (and I used to drink it often)

http://www.guinnesswebstore.com/imagesEdp/p32985b.jpg
The Extra Stout is in brown bottles.

http://www.briansbelly.com/beerbelly/beerimages/guinness_bottle.jpg
The "pub draft" with the little gas rocket inside is a clear bottle wrapped in black cellophane. Dunno whether that blocks the light as good as the naturally dark glass does, but (unlike some beers in clear or green bottles) I haven't found a bad 6 pack of Guinness yet. :gulp:

[Andy Taylor]

I miss the old Pepsi design. And Double Cola too.

[Dr. Love]

wouldn't you want to get white glass to reflect all light? Black glass would just absorb it all.

Anyway I bought some dublin dr. pepper's today, we'll see if they are truly better.

[thome]

Black..."est".. Glass.....Darker than the normal Brown..but like my women, they are oh so sweet and make me dizzy.... I hold them close enjoy thier flavor, and never look to close.

....at the wrapper...lol

Due to cost concerns my Guiness tonight is 14.9 oz in the can on sale in the 8 pack $12.00...mmmmm.

mmmm ......Black Can......Big, Black Can........;)

[FORD]

Necroposting this thread because the Pepsi & Mountain Dew should be rolling into a store near you this week. For the record, the bottle designs at the top of the thread were scrapped, in favor of these versions.......

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_pepsithrowbackmountaindewthrowback_final1.jp g

...so while the formula may be retro, the logo, not so much. At least for the Pepsi. The Mountain Dew still looks fairly old school.

Gonna look for some tommorrow. Anybody found it yet?

[Dr. Love]

yay!!!

[hideyoursheep]

Gonna look for some tommorrow. Anybody found it yet?

Not yet, and I've been looking...It's hard enough to find Jones Soda around here. I hope this isn't some regional thing, because if it is, I'm fucked.

Even the $1 bottle of Lipton with lemon has HFCS in it! How in the green hell do you wind up with HFCS in tea that isn't suppose to be sweetened?!

[FORD]

Well I finally found a bottle of the Mountain Dew at Safeway. It was the last one. Didn't see the Pepsi at all. No fridge packs of cans in the store, despite them being advertised in their weekly ad.

It was good ol' Mountain Dew just like I remember as a kid, but I wish they would put it in glass bottles like the Mexican Coke.

And if more of this doesn't start showing up soon, I'm beginning to think the Corn lobby is buying it up just to keep it off the shelves. They certainly can afford to do so, with all the federal subsidies they get to poison all of us.

[hideyoursheep]

Nothing here.

Same shit, same bottles.

[Dr. Love]

yeah I haven't managed to find anything yet ... looked around at a few stores today.

[High Life Man]

Bought both at Target tonight and am enjoying a Pepsi right now.

Definately tastes different. I still prefer Coke.

[High Life Man]

Bought both at Target tonight and am enjoying a Pepsi right now.

Definately tastes different. I still prefer Coke.

[Nickdfresh]

What he said. I'd prefer to have REAL Classic Coke throwback, or better yet, the original Royal Crown formula, which was the best of all of 'em...

I do like Pepsi though after years of not liking it, and the sugar definitely makes a difference...

[Matt White]

Bought a 12 pack of PEPSI........

Does taste better...not as much FIZZ.......BANG POP!!!

Doesn't give me heartburn either.....Hmmmmmmm

[FORD]

Pepsi also put something out called "Pepsi Natural". It's also sugar sweetened but it's nothing like regular Pepsi. Tastes more like liquid brown sugar or something. Maybe they should get the Stones to do their ads?

I hope that Pepsi has demonstrable increases in sales the next two months, which will cause them to make this product line permanent, and as a result, Coke will follow suit to preserve their market share. Paying twice as much for MexiCoke is not a solution in this economy.

Then comes the next battle. Getting rid of the goddamn plastic bottles and put this stuff back in glass where it belongs. Plastic doesn't taste the same, and it's a petroleum by product that doesn't recycle or biodegrade easily. Who needs it?

[WARF]

FORD if you love non HFCS sodas... I highly recommend this...

Red Bull Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola)

[FORD]

FORD if you love non HFCS sodas... I highly recommend this...

Red Bull Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bull_Cola)

Yeah, I saw that the other day. In fact I was going to buy one and try it until I saw the bottle of Mountain Dew. But if Red Bull is pulling away from HFCS, I'll support their efforts as well.

Besides, anything that gives Red Bull an advantage over Rockstar is good. Because Rockstar is owned by hatemonger Michael "Savage" Weiner and his son Russel Goldenshower Weiner, and I'll never drink that shit again.

Jones Soda also makes an energy drink called "Can Of Whoop Ass" which is cane sugar based as all Jones products are, and that's some good shit too.

http://www.jonessoda.com/gifs7/whoopass-can_us.jpg

[WARF]

Red Bull Cola is the best tasting soda I've ever had!

But I do love the JONES products as well.

I also think Pepsi should bring back CRYSTAL PEPSI without HFCS!

[High Life Man]

Had one of the Mountain Dews tonight. Definitely tasted different.

Can't say if I liked it better or not...

[WARF]

Had one of the Mountain Dews tonight. Definitely tasted different.

Can't say if I liked it better or not...

Does it still use Brominated Vegetable oil?

I think that's the secret behind Mountain Dew addiction!

[Dr. Love]

BVOs are testicle killers.

[FORD]

Does it still use Brominated Vegetable oil?

I think that's the secret behind Mountain Dew addiction!

Unfortunately it does :(

I didn't notice that on the label until after I drank it. Can't say I feel too good about that. Or really understand exactly WHY it's in there. :confused:

[Dr. Love]

BVOs act as an agent to keep the solution suspended so it doesn't seperate. It's used in most citric drinks.

[lesfunk]

Red Bull Cola is the best tasting soda I've ever had!

But I do love the JONES products as well.

I also think Pepsi should bring back CRYSTAL PEPSI without HFCS!

I never drink soda but I was craving a Coke today. Maybe I'll look for some of that Red Bull Cola and check it out.

[Satan]

I've got to see if we can get some of that Red Bull Cola down here in Hell. The distribution for the MexiCoke sucks, and I'm not even bothering with this new/old Pepsi because the damn plastic bottles melt too easily around here. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

[FORD]

Good call on the Red Bull Cola, WARF! Picked up a 4 pack of it tonight.....

http://www.redbull.co.uk/img/cola.jpg

Reminds me of something.... not quite sure what.... maybe the old RC cola before they ruined it with HFCS.

I like this stuff though..... all natural flavorings (who would have guessed mustard seed and pine extract?) and a bit less sugar than Coke or Pepsi.

Downside.... It's priced like an energy drink rather than a cola, and only comes in aluminum cans, like all Red Bull products. But that's OK, because I don't drink the shit like water anymore anyway, but I will be drinking this stuff again :guzzle:

[FORD]

Here's another new entry in the cane sugar soda sweepstakes.....

Thomas Kemper's Ginger Peach.....
http://www.tksoda.com/img/nutrition_ginger-peach.gif

Thomas Kemper has been making "premium sodas" for years. They used to make beer too, but I think they sold that line off to Pyramid Ales. Hell, maybe it's still the same company? They use the same brown bottles in either case.

Anyway.... Kemper started out using HFCS in their products, but they switched to cane sugar a few months back, probably because Jones was kicking their ass in the market shares. I like their Root Beer and Ginger Ale, but I've been less than impressed with their fruit flavors in the past (cherry, orange, and grape) as they were way too sweet, and seemed to taste more like carbonated KoolAid than the actual supposed flavor. So I was a little skeptical of something called "Ginger Peach", but it was on sale, so what the fuck?? I'll drink just about anything once.

Thankfully, it's more Ginger Ale than peach, and the spice offsets the sweetness. Very well done, Thomas Kemper. If you drink Ginger Ale, or if you're an alcoholic with 12 stepper friends who drink Ginger Ale, might want to pick some of this stuff up.

[hideyoursheep]

I found the Mt Dew throwback. Now I remember why I didn't drink it much as a kid.



I'll be sticking with the Snapple lemon tea.

Haven't gotten the Pepsi yet.

[FORD]

Here's some good news for those of you who prefer non-carbonated beverages......

Both Snapple and SOBE have switched to sugar in their teas and fruit-based drinks.

Snapple - Made from the Best Stuff on Earth (http://www.snapple.com/promo.html)

SoBe World - Teas and Juices (http://www.sobeworld.com/teas_and_juices.php)

[hideyoursheep]

Haven't gotten the Pepsi yet.

GOT SOME!!! Good stuff!

I decided to conduct a little experiment with the Dew and Pepsi at a family gathering yesterday. I brought the throwback Pepsi, Dew and regular Coke in my cooler, while everyone else had the HFCS shit in theirs.

End of the night, I take a look to see what's left where...The younger bunch finished off ALL the throwback Dew, and left 4 or 5 in the other cooler.

All but one throwback Pepsi was gone (I had a lot to do with that;)), and there was still lots of regular Coke and Pepsi left in every one's coolers.

Of course I passed some out when I arrived, but by the end of the day, I'd say it was a hit with everyone who never realized that the ingredients had changed.

[ELVIS]

I never cared for Pepsi or Mountain Dew, and I like both of the throwback versions, especially the Pepsi...

I'm gonna have to try that Red Bull crap...


:elvis:

[hideyoursheep]

I'm gonna have to try that Red Bull crap...

:elvis:

Meh..I didn't care for it.

[Seshmeister]

If you drink a couple of jugs of it with a bottle of tequila it's impossible to sleep.

[FORD]

If you drink a couple of jugs of it with a bottle of tequila it's impossible to sleep.

Does that mean Hagar will be selling it at Chickenshit concerts to keep the crowd awake?

[FORD]

Oh shit.... better grab that Red Bull Cola while you can get it. Probably won't be on the shelves for long.....

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You would have to drink 12,000 fucking liters to equal one line of coke, but that won't matter to the "Reefer Madness/ War On Drugs" right wing mental cases

[GAR]

COOL! It has cocaine in it?

I'm THERE.. no taurine then in these?? That's the heart-attack ingredient, right there.

[FORD]

Now I know there are some folks out there in Roth-land that, for whatever reason, can't do sugar, whether the real kind or the Monsanto-made poison.

And I know you folks are saying "Well goddamn it FORD.... what about us diet drink lovers? Are we forever doomed to a choice between Donald Rumsfeld's Aspartame (Nutra Sweet) and the "if you use too much you will shit your pants" Splenda??

Well the answer is no. Stevia is relatively new on the mass market, though its been in health food stores for years. You can buy it in all the same formats that the other fake sweeteners come in to make your own tea and what not. Good news is that Stevia is starting to be used as a commercial ingredient now.

So without further ado, here's "Zevia" - the all natural diet drink......

http://www.zevia.com/img/colaIngredients.jpg




ZEVIA™ IS ALL NATURAL

ZEVIA™ stevia soda is Nature's Answer To Diet Soda™. We have taken great care and spared no expense to make sure that all six ZEVIA™ stevia soda varieties contain only pure, natural ingredients.

ZEVIA™ Natural Diet Sodas contain the natural ingredients discussed below.
cola

Ingredients Include:

* - Stevia
* - Erythritol
* - Natural Caramel
* - Natural Tartaric Acid
* - Citric Acid
* - Kola Nut Extract
* - Natural Caffeine
* - Annatto
* - Ginger Root

Stevia:

Stevia is a natural herb native to South and Central America. For centuries, native Americans of Paraguay and Brazil called it "sweet leaf" and used it to sweeten native foods. Stevia is used as a food additive in China, Japan, all of South America and in the United States. The extract from the stevia leaf has no calories, no effect on blood sugar levels, and is hundreds of times sweeter than sugar. Stevia sweetens all six ZEVIA™ Natural Diet Soda flavors.

Erythritol:

Erythritol is a natural sugar alcohol found in fruits and vegetables, has no calories, and has no effect on blood sugar levels. Erythritol does not promote tooth decay. Erythritol is used in all six ZEVIA™ Natural Diet Soda flavors.

Natural Caramel:

ZEVIA™ Natural Cola and ZEVIA™ Natural Ginger Ale stevia sodas are colored with natural caramel.

Natural Tartaric Acid:

Tartaric acid occurs naturally in many plants, particularly grapes, bananas, and tamarinds, and is also found in wine. Most colas use cheap, harmful phosphoric acid for flavor. Phosphoric acid is used in fertilizers and detergents. It erodes tooth enamel and has been linked to depletion of calcium, a contributing factor in osteoporosis. Safe, natural tartaric acid enhances the zesty, tangy flavor of ZEVIA™ Natural Cola stevia soda.

Citric Acid:

Citric acid is naturally concentrated in oranges, grapefruit, pineapple, lemons and limes. This natural citric acid flavors all six ZEVIA™ Natural Diet Soda flavors.

Kola Nut Extract:

The kola nut is from a tree native to Central and Western Africa. The kola nut contains naturally occurring caffeine, as well as theobromine, a stimulating ingredient also found in chocolate and green tea. Natural kola nut extract provides the classic cola flavor in ZEVIA™ Natural Cola stevia soda.
Natural Caffeine:

Most diet sodas use artificially produced caffeine. The natural caffeine in ZEVIA™ Natural Cola stevia soda comes from coffee, tea, and the kola nut. All five other delicious ZEVIA™ Natural Diet Soda flavors are caffeine free.

Annatto:

ZEVIA™ Natural Orange stevia soda is colored with annatto, from the achiote tree. When we were developing ZEVIA™ Natural Orange, we were told that orange color had to be artificial. But, because ZEVIA™ was to be the first truly all natural zero calorie soda, we refused to accept anything artificial for the ZEVIA™ brand. After searching, we found annatto, which is all natural and a beautiful orange.

Ginger Root:

ZEVIA™ Natural Root Beer and ZEVIA™ Natural Ginger Ale stevia sodas contain extract of ginger root. This ancient and tasty ingredient has been used by people around the world to alleviate everything from morning sickness to arthritis pain.


I can't give a further review because I haven't tried this stuff yet, but it sounds like a winner. And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before other companies who like to use the "natural" tag (Jones & Hansen's, I'm looking in your direction) drop the Splenda laxative in favor of the "Sweet Leaf"

(and they could get Ozzy to do their ads??)

[Seshmeister]

I'm going to start bombarding this thread with useless facts now... :)

[Seshmeister]

Did you know that there are the equivalent of 12 sugar cubes in each can of coke?

[Seshmeister]

Fanta is a Nazi drink.

When the US joined the war the German Cocoa Cola company was soon unable to get coke syrup so developed Fanta instead. Drinking Fanta is like suckling Hitler's tit!

[kwame k]

Fanta is a Nazi drink.

When the US joined the war the German Cocoa Cola company was soon unable to get coke syrup so developed Fanta instead. Drinking Fanta is like suckling Hitler's tit!
:lmao:

[Seshmeister]

I knew I had seen Black glass somehwhere !
I think some vodkas I have seen also have
used black glass...


You may be thinking of Blavod which was black vodka.

http://www.slammedmagazine.com/inthisissue/july-2004/images/vodka/blavod.jpg

[FORD]

Fanta is a Nazi drink.

When the US joined the war the German Cocoa Cola company was soon unable to get coke syrup so developed Fanta instead. Drinking Fanta is like suckling Hitler's tit!

Must be why its doing so well in South America. The Nazis, and their descendants, are STILL drinking it!

[kwame k]

Not really sure this is the most appropriate thread to put this in but here's a video that really opened my eyes.

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[hideyoursheep]

Found the last 2 12's of Pepsi today. It's all gone. :(

[kwame k]

Found the last 2 12's of Pepsi today. It's all gone. :(

That sucks!

[FORD]

Actually it's both good news and bad news.

Bad news is you can't find it. Good news is that means the supply sold out, and Pepsi knows they can sell the stuff, which will encourage them to make more.

And since Coke sees Pepsi has a hit on their hands, how can they NOT make the switch themselves?

[Nickdfresh]

Fanta is a Nazi drink.

When the US joined the war the German Cocoa Cola company was soon unable to get coke syrup so developed Fanta instead. Drinking Fanta is like suckling Hitler's tit!


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[FORD]

Found the last 2 12's of Pepsi today. It's all gone. :(

Supply seems to have run out here as well. Saw 4 12's of Pepsi, no Mountain Dew. Grabbed all 4 of 'em. Hopefully by the time I drink all that, there will be another batch or Coke will have theirs in the store. Otherwise it's back to hunting down the MexiCoke.

[hideyoursheep]

Good news is that means the supply sold out, and Pepsi knows they can sell the stuff, which will encourage them to make more.

And since Coke sees Pepsi has a hit on their hands, how can they NOT make the switch themselves?

I hope you're right. I think it's a home run. I'm not sure how much advertising Pepsi did for this because I haven't been paying attention, but to have it consumed so quickly has to open some eyes.



I can only imagine how much better a mixed drink is with the throwback..someone please tell me!

[FORD]

Good news for Dr. Pepper fans.........

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_heritagedrpepper1.jpg

This is a nationwide limited time release like the Pepsi Throwback, and not to be confused with the Dublin Dr Pepper available only in Texas.

I've heard that this product is in distribution right now, so pick some up for the holidays and leave one out for Santa! http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/xmas/d034.gif

[Dr. Love]

We drink dublin DP in my household

[FORD]

In addition to the Dr. Pepper, it appears that the Pepsi and Mt. Dew will also get another run, and they actually have retro labels this time.....

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_pepsithrowback_mountaindewthrowback_december 2009_official1.jpg

MEMO to Coca-Cola's head office in Atlanta: Take the fucking hint already, and when you start cranking out that "Kosher Coke" for Passover, don't limit it to only the Jewish neighborhoods this time. Dump the MonSatan corn poison, double your sales within a year.

[Nickdfresh]

good news for dr. Pepper fans.........

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_heritagedrpepper1.jpg

this is a nationwide limited time release like the pepsi throwback, and not to be confused with the dublin dr pepper available only in texas.

I've heard that this product is in distribution right now, so pick some up for the holidays and leave one out for santa! http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/xmas/d034.gif

fantastic!!!

[Nickdfresh]

In addition to the Dr. Pepper, it appears that the Pepsi and Mt. Dew will also get another run, and they actually have retro labels this time.....

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_pepsithrowback_mountaindewthrowback_december 2009_official1.jpg

MEMO to Coca-Cola's head office in Atlanta: Take the fucking hint already, and when you start cranking out that "Kosher Coke" for Passover, don't limit it to only the Jewish neighborhoods this time. Dump the MonSatan corn poison, double your sales within a year.


Gotta have a rhetro-label. Even the NFL dawns the throwback jerseys!

[Terry]

Long as they still make Fresca, Tab, Shasta and Diet Mr. Pibb, who gives a toss about Pepsi?

[FORD]

Long as they still make Fresca, Tab, Shasta and Diet Mr. Pibb, who gives a toss about Pepsi?

Actually, if they started using Stevia to sweeten the diet drinks, they could probably make huge increases in the diet soda market.

Nutra Sweet gives me headaches and Splenda... well let's just say it causes trouble at the other end. But given the choice of Stevia or high fructose corn poison, I'd take the Stevia every time. If it was Stevia vs real sugar, at least you would have a real choice of two good products.

Oddly enough Coke, Pepsi, and Dr Pepper have all announced plans to make Stevia sweetened versions, apparently a year ago, though I missed the news at the time.....



Dr Pepper says to sell drinks w/ natural sweetener
Thu, Dec 18 2008

* To announce launch of stevia-sweetened drinks shortly

* Shares rise 4.7 pct

NEW YORK, Dec 18 (Reuters) - Dr Pepper Snapple Group Inc <DPS.N> said on Thursday it expects to announce the launch of low-calorie drinks made with a natural sweetener in the coming weeks, helping to send its shares up nearly 5 percent.

The move would follow similar introductions from larger rivals Coca-Cola Co <KO.N> and PepsiCo Inc <PEP.N>, which both said a day earlier they received U.S. regulatory clearance for sweeteners derived from the stevia plant.

Coke and Pepsi plan to launch new soft drinks in the coming weeks.

"We are pleased with the Food & Drug Administration's decision to approve the use of stevia in the United States," said Jim Trebilcock, a Dr Pepper Snapple marketing executive, in an email. "This important decision clears the way for food and beverage manufacturers to develop and introduce an array of naturally sweetened lower calorie choices."

"We expect to announce the launch of our first stevia-sweetened products in the coming weeks," he continued.

The sweeteners, made from the leaves of a South American shrub, will provide natural alternatives to chemical sweeteners like Equal and Splenda.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1839174920081218

[ThrillsNSpills]

All artificial sweetners are toxic to the nervous system.

It's a major step up if they're putting stevia in as an alternative.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Gotta have a rhetro-label. Even the NFL dawns the throwback jerseys!

not for nothin', but i believe it is "dons" jerseys:)

[Ally_Kat]

In addition to the Dr. Pepper, it appears that the Pepsi and Mt. Dew will also get another run, and they actually have retro labels this time.....

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_pepsithrowback_mountaindewthrowback_december 2009_official1.jpg

MEMO to Coca-Cola's head office in Atlanta: Take the fucking hint already, and when you start cranking out that "Kosher Coke" for Passover, don't limit it to only the Jewish neighborhoods this time. Dump the MonSatan corn poison, double your sales within a year.

When is the Pepsi throwback on sale again? Mr Ally_Kat loves the stuff and I want to be able to stock up for him.

[FORD]

The Pepsi re-release is supposed to be effective in December 09, so it should be rolling out now, as should the Dr Pepper. Though I still haven't seen any of it yet here, and we got the Throwback fairly early during the release last spring.

I would think New York should get it earlier than most, since Pepsico is based in that state.

[sadaist]

I can't stand Pepsi. But I loved it when it was made with real sugar. Looking forward to getting some of this.

[FORD]

I can't stand Pepsi. But I loved it when it was made with real sugar. Looking forward to getting some of this.

I was always a Coke drinker back in the day. I took the "Pepsi challenge' and always picked Coke. But the Throwback of last summer was a return to how Pepsi used to taste. It ain't as good as the Mexican Coke, but it's better than anything currently released by Coca Cola Inc in Atlanta.

I will buy Pepsi, Dr Pepper, and Mtn Dew in the coming weeks. If Coke wants my money, they know what to do - lose the corn poison.

[Ally_Kat]

The Pepsi re-release is supposed to be effective in December 09, so it should be rolling out now, as should the Dr Pepper. Though I still haven't seen any of it yet here, and we got the Throwback fairly early during the release last spring.

I would think New York should get it earlier than most, since Pepsico is based in that state.

If NY got it last round, I never found it. I had his family in Ohio stockpile the stuff until we drove out there in the summer.

[ODShowtime]

I will be monitoring this thread because I still remember how good old Dr pepper tasted. That shit was the bomb. I will hoard the stuff if I ever get my hands on any. If anyone in the Tampa bay area sees it please keep me posted.

[Little Texan]

I will be monitoring this thread because I still remember how good old Dr pepper tasted. That shit was the bomb. I will hoard the stuff if I ever get my hands on any. If anyone in the Tampa bay area sees it please keep me posted.

You should take a trip to Texas sometime. The old Dr Pepper is readily available here, and after you're done seeing all the sights you can stock up on Dublin Dr Pepper before you head for home.

[Little Texan]

I've read somewhere that there's also a bottling plant in North Carolina that produces the old Dr Pepper and the old Mountain Dew.

[Little Texan]

The West Jefferson, NC Dr Pepper bottling plant, to be exact.

Check out all the different cane sugar sweetened soft drinks that are available there. (http://www.glassbottlesoda.org/bottlers/wjefferson.shtml)

[Little Texan]

Ford, have you ever tried the Mexican versions of Fanta and Sprite? Some of the gas stations and Mexican stores around here sell it, and they taste totally different than the American versions! They are so much better than the American HFCS shit. I've never been a big fan of Sprite, but I liked the Mexican version!

[FORD]

Only get the Mexican Coke up this way. Haven't seen any other Mexi-pops here. Except for Jarritos, which can be found in the Mexican food section of any grocery store pretty much. It's also in the glass bottles though, so I buy one every once in a while. Some flavors are better than others.

A few years ago when some friends of mine returned from China they had some 7-UP they bought in Hong Kong, which of course had sugar in it. That was the best fucking can of 7 UP I had since the 80's. Since Dr Pepper and 7 UP are now the same company, I'm hoping that's the next brand to go with sugar. The corn poison is simply intolerable in anything fruit flavored.

[Nitro Express]

I would rather drink a beer than a soda pop.

[FORD]

I would rather drink a beer than a soda pop.

Well, I got a thread (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/10381-return-ford-beercyclopedia-thread.html) for that too! :gulp:

Meanwhile..... the Pepsi and Mtn Dew have arrived in FORD Country. No Dr Pepper sighting yet, unfortunately. :(

[hideyoursheep]

I like the Pepsi over the Dew, but they both taste better without the syrup. Nothing but Jones Cola over the holidays, and that's out of stock now.

[Jesus Christ]

All soda in Heaven hath cane sugar. I would never turn water into HFCS. :jesuslol:

[FORD]

Still no Dr. Pepper sightings in FORD Country, but I found another good cane sugar soda....

http://www.tksoda.com/img/nutrition_or-marionberry.gif

INGREDIENTS: carbonated water, cane sugar, marion blackberry, blackcurrant and boysenberry juices (from concentrates), natural flavors, maltodextrin, citric acid, pectin, sodium benzoate, honey, fruit and vegetable juice for color.

So why do they call it "Marion Berry" soda when there are other berry juices in it?

Because the shit is so good it's like liquid CRACK, that's why! :biggrin:

[MAX]

Forgot about this thread.

What's weird is I was almost soda free until the little market right by my house started carrying the Mexican Coke. Now, I'm hooked again. :o

I don't care what anyone says but there's something about soda in plastic bottles (nevermind the HFCS) that makes it taste horrible!!! I love the coke in the glass bottles with the real sugar. Tastes soooooo fucking good.

Also, I agree about Jones sodas. They're delicious. Anyone tasted their new pure cola yet? I've seen it advertised but haven't had it. I'll bet it rocks.

[hideyoursheep]

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!:baaa:

GOT SOME!!! I loaded the war wagon down with Dew and Pepsi. I feel like such a nerd, but I'm set!

I went apeshit and bough a 12 of Dr Pepper, too....I don't even like it.


I actually have to agree with max. I picked up 1 20oz. bottle of Pepsi from the GasHole and I was not pleased. I'm sticking to the cans.


You have so many variations of Pepsi it's not funny...Pepsi one, Diet Pepsi, regular Pepsi, caffiene free Pepsi....I can't figure out why the fuck they cant make Throwback on a regular basis. People want it.

[Candy Girl]

I've read somewhere that there's also a bottling plant in North Carolina that produces the old Dr Pepper and the old Mountain Dew.

Been there. Never checked out the Dr Pepper or Dew. I was after the grape and orange Nehi in glass bottles. :yum:

[FORD]

You have so many variations of Pepsi it's not funny...Pepsi one, Diet Pepsi, regular Pepsi, caffiene free Pepsi....I can't figure out why the fuck they cant make Throwback on a regular basis. People want it.

The MonSatan/ADM corn lobby is very powerful in this country. Pepsi and Coke - definitely if they both did it at the same time - might be the only companies big enough to be able to give them the collective corporate finger and get away with it. Damned if I know what's stopping them. Now would probably be the best time of the year to put pressure on them though, because both companies go into sugar recipie production mode for the Passover edition anyway. Might be the best time to just convert everything back to sugar permanently.

Then the next battle would be to drop the useless plastic bottles. Call it a "green" issue, and its another moneymaker for them.

[ThrillsNSpills]

The MonSatan/ADM corn lobby is very powerful in this country. Pepsi and Coke - definitely if they both did it at the same time - might be the only companies big enough to be able to give them the collective corporate finger and get away with it. Damned if I know what's stopping them. Now would probably be the best time of the year to put pressure on them though, because both companies go into sugar recipie production mode for the Passover edition anyway. Might be the best time to just convert everything back to sugar permanently.

Then the next battle would be to drop the useless plastic bottles. Call it a "green" issue, and its another moneymaker for them.


I've read about plastic bottles with just water in them pulling out dangerous elements from the plastic.
If that's true I can't imagine how much more that would be the case if you have soda which is basically acid. That said I remember how great soda used to taste and the no HFCS versions would have a higher demand if more people knew about it.

[hideyoursheep]

The MonSatan/ADM corn lobby is very powerful in this country. Pepsi and Coke - definitely if they both did it at the same time - might be the only companies big enough to be able to give them the collective corporate finger and get away with it. Damned if I know what's stopping them. Now would probably be the best time of the year to put pressure on them though, because both companies go into sugar recipie production mode for the Passover edition anyway. Might be the best time to just convert everything back to sugar permanently.

Then the next battle would be to drop the useless plastic bottles. Call it a "green" issue, and its another moneymaker for them.

I still can't fathom how the corn lobby can influence 2 private industry giants like Pepsico and Coke to the point of changing it's own recipe into one that is less popular....unless I'm just off the mark.

The switch to HFCS was done with no fanfare or warning....it seems like it just happened one day, and that's it. Not many people are even aware of the difference.....they think it's merely a label change to celebrate the 60 years of Pepsi, and nothing else. Fuck it, man...I'm not gonna get into the HFCS debate with them-more throwback for ME!! ;)


That garbage is in every drink there is now, including Gatorade. The so-called "energy drinks" are saturated with it. I never touch that shit. Ever.


Mmmmmm......so much better without the Orville Redenbaker / Aunt Jemima solution.

[ODShowtime]

the day after I read about the heritage DP I found some in Naples, FL. Then I saw some in Denver yesterday. It's out there!

[Mr Walker]

I picked up a Pepsi Throwback in Dunkin Donuts this morning.
I'll probably grab a Mountain Dew for the ride home.

[Ally_Kat]

NYC has it! Score.

Finished round one. Stockpile rounds two goes into effect today.

[thome]

the day after I read about the heritage DP I found some in Naples, FL. Then I saw some in Denver yesterday. It's out there!


I love that town...Naples Fl...cleanest city I have ever seen.

Nothing going on, just the way I like it.

[Nickdfresh]

I gotta grab this stuff today!

[FORD]

If you still can't find the Dr. Pepper in your local grocery store, try Target. Just picked some up there. And it was worth the wait.

[Warham]

I like the Throwback Mountain Dew better than the current version. Haven't tried the Pepsi or Dr. Pepper yet.

[chefcraig]

Here's a heads-up: The Walgreen's in my area has Pepsi products on sale. Through a coupon deal, you get five 12-packs, and four 2 liter bottles for $10. Now this isn't supposed to include throwback products, but the supply overall was limited and the clerk rang up all of them at the sale price. Remember, these sales vary by location, so check your local retailer for prices.

Here is the Walgreen's site: Welcome to Walgreens - Your Home for Prescriptions, Photos and Health Information (http://www.Walgreens.com)

[ODShowtime]

I have to be honest, I don't really like the DP :( It's weird. Anyone else have an opinion? This is after I bought like 4 twelve packs.

[Ally_Kat]

Help! Where in NYC is this sold? No one I know has seen it anywhere here. I've been making a cold remedy using regular Pepsi. :(

Hit up Stop N Shop. Not all of them carry it, but a good portion do!

[chefcraig]

I have to be honest, I don't really like the DP :( It's weird. Anyone else have an opinion? This is after I bought like 4 twelve packs.

Yeah, I could take or leave the Pepsi, as it doesn't seem to have any zip to it. The Mountain Dew on the other hand, is outstanding. It reminds me of something that happened back in the late 1980s.

I had planned a vacation that would be a road trip from here is S. Fla to Charleston S.C. I would be visiting some friends for a few days that had relocated there, but first I'd stop in Orlando to visit my aunt and uncle and play some golf. The food at the turnpike rest stops was pretty crummy back then, and usually overpriced (this hasn't changed, 22 years later). So I packed a cooler with a few Cokes and some sandwiches, and took off.

Once at my relatives' home, I put the contents of the cooler in their refrigerator. The next morning, my uncle grabbed a Coke, took one swig and promptly spit it out. He gasped at me with a bewildered look on his face, and said there was something terribly wrong with it. Seeing this was one of the sodas I'd brought, I took a drink and announced it was normal to me. He then produced one of the sodas from the back of the fridge (he too had bought some Cokes locally anticipating my visit) and handed it to me. The difference was like night and day. His tasted sweet and refreshing, while mine was foamy and harsh tasting. I figured it must be the water used by the bottler down our way.

So I get to Charleston, and more or less the same thing happened. I bought a Mountain Dew and was blown away by how sweet it tasted. I even went to a supermarket and purchased several cases to bring back to Florida with me. And this Throwback Dew tastes much like that stuff I bought in S.C. It's a terrific find, and it's a shame it will only be available for a short time.

[ODShowtime]

So I get to Charleston, and more or less the same thing happened. I bought a Mountain Dew and was blown away by how sweet it tasted. I even went to a supermarket and purchased several cases to bring back to Florida with me. And this Throwback Dew tastes much like that stuff I bought in S.C. It's a terrific find, and it's a shame it will only be available for a short time.

In a related note, the water in FL is the worst anywhere. It's terrible. I was in Denver the other week, and the tap water was so freezing cold and refreshing, it was a treat to splash water on your face. I get why the temp was so different, but that stuff tasted great! I didn't need to buy bottled water at all, just drink the tap water. Freezing cold and delicious.

Wonderful place. Don't get me started on their beer... or the flood of Cali hippies setting up shop due to the dispenseries. I got a line on a big hashpile while I was there for only 3 days. More hookups than the 5 years I've lived in FL.

[hankster]

I bought a case of both the other day, seems like here in NC there is a vacuum were good shit doesn't seem to get through as fast as the rest of the world. Well sufficed to say I love them both, the MD and Pepsi. I am not very nostalgic, but they do take me back to the 70's and I hope that they keep it going for a while so I can stock up

[FORD]

Yeah, I could take or leave the Pepsi, as it doesn't seem to have any zip to it. The Mountain Dew on the other hand, is outstanding. It reminds me of something that happened back in the late 1980s.

I had planned a vacation that would be a road trip from here is S. Fla to Charleston S.C. I would be visiting some friends for a few days that had relocated there, but first I'd stop in Orlando to visit my aunt and uncle and play some golf. The food at the turnpike rest stops was pretty crummy back then, and usually overpriced (this hasn't changed, 22 years later). So I packed a cooler with a few Cokes and some sandwiches, and took off.

Once at my relatives' home, I put the contents of the cooler in their refrigerator. The next morning, my uncle grabbed a Coke, took one swig and promptly spit it out. He gasped at me with a bewildered look on his face, and said there was something terribly wrong with it. Seeing this was one of the sodas I'd brought, I took a drink and announced it was normal to me. He then produced one of the sodas from the back of the fridge (he too had bought some Cokes locally anticipating my visit) and handed it to me. The difference was like night and day. His tasted sweet and refreshing, while mine was foamy and harsh tasting. I figured it must be the water used by the bottler down our way.

So I get to Charleston, and more or less the same thing happened. I bought a Mountain Dew and was blown away by how sweet it tasted. I even went to a supermarket and purchased several cases to bring back to Florida with me. And this Throwback Dew tastes much like that stuff I bought in S.C. It's a terrific find, and it's a shame it will only be available for a short time.

Water makes all the difference, no matter what beverage you're making. Beer, wine, or Coca cola. The Olympia Brewery used "It's the water" as a marketing slogan for years, and they were serious about it. Came from artesian wells that naturally exist in this area. The Fish Brewing company (which makes even better beer) uses the same artesian wells.

My dad used to make his own wine, and even though he had a well at his house, so the water never had chlorine or any other man made additives in it, it just didn't measure up to the water that came from the artesian wells. So he would actually go downtown to the artesian well and fill up all these huge glass bottles - the same kind that office water coolers used before they went to plastic - because the difference in the final product was worth the trip and the manual labor involved.

Of course Mexican Coke IS made in Mexico, so I'm not sure how that gets so good with the water supposedly being so bad there :confused:

[chefcraig]

In a related note, the water in FL is the worst anywhere. It's terrible.

You are not exaggerating. For a short while I lived in a city outside of Fort Lauderdale that had water so caustic that by merely showering in it created skin ailments, as it literally tore the skin off of your back. Since as I was renting at the time, I didn't see the logic in purchasing a water filtration system for a one bedroom apartment in order to remain healthy (the tap water had a horrible sepia tinge to it as well). I simply moved at the next available opportunity. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-scared-smileys-366.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Music-Smileys/)

[FORD]

Well it seems like the Dr. Pepper is getting wider distribution at the moment, but the Pepsi and Mt Dew may be done for this run. I think I got the last 12 pack of Mt Dew in town.

Also I picked up some Thomas Kemper stuff the other day. This isn't the usual Thomas Kemper soda, it's called "pure natural" something or other. It tastes even better than the usual TK brands, as it's not as sweet and has some tartness to it. Also it's in clear glass longneck bottles as opposed to "stubby" brown bottles. Oddly enough there is nothing about it on the Thomas Kemper website, so I don't know how wide the release is, but if you can find them, pick them up.

So far I've found it in 4 flavors - Root Beer, Ginger Ale, Black Cherry, and Blood Orange/Pomegranate. Don't know if there are any others.

[Blackflag]

After the way this stuff has been flying off the shelves, it will blow my mind when they don't switch to this for good.

[hideyoursheep]

After the way this stuff has been flying off the shelves, it will blow my mind when they don't switch to this for good.


When does it happen for the Pibb?

[ODShowtime]

Pibb Extra makes me want to hurl.

[Unchainme]

it came back on..and then back off the market.

it pisses me off that they don't just make the mountain dew one permanent. Usually while I enjoy mountain dew it feels like I'm weighed down after enjoying it. With the Sugar Cane version I don't feel as much.

Mind you, I've mainly switched to diet almost full time now, as I've just recently learned of a history of diabetes in my family (and no, we're not fatasses, just have really fucked up genes in that department), but still. I would like to see that brought back as a permanent thing.

[FORD]

I know that Dr. Pepper came back again this summer, though the label was different from the previous "Heritage" release. Here's the current design....

http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3340729.jpg

I don't think Pepsico has Pepsi or Mt. Dew out at the moment, but they did release a sugar version of Sierra Mist, which is their 7-up/Sprite ripoff they came up with when the government wouldn't let them buy 7-up.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/4967240611_4bc4c59216.jpg

Sadly, this stuff just doesn't cut it for me. It's more or less carbonated sugar water without all that much flavoring. I never tried the corn poisoned version of this stuff, but it must have been horrible if the sugar version is this bad. Hopefully 7-Up will take the hint and release their own sugar version, which will no doubt be great. And since Dr. Pepper & 7-Up are the same company, it's really ridiculous that they haven't done so already.

[Unchainme]

I've been drinking Coke Zero which has splenda in it..though it still has the diet after-taste to it.

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

I just stumbled upon this thread tonight... down with the genetic engineered high fructose corn syrup complex!!!! I was at Vons tonight here in Laguna (Orange County, CA) and they have cases of the Pepsi and Mt Dew Throwbacks with real sugar. I'm a Coke drinker myself, but I bought a few cases of the Pepsi.... just like being a kid again, pure sugar... I had three cans of the stuff tonight and I'm wired!!!

I didn't read this entire thread, but wasn't it right about the time of the New Coke change and the taste tests between Coke and Pepsi in the 80s that sugar prices were riding at all time highs and the govt was subsidizing the hell out of corn so much that a surplus built up and new markets/uses were needed (hence HFCS and ethanol) -- that's one of the conspiracy theories about New Coke, bait and switch... I always thought "Classic Coke" tasted different when they brought it back, mainly because Coke turned to cheap ass HFCS instead of cane sugar. All I know is corn should be banned except for popcorn in theaters... although when I was attending Notre Dame I had some of the best steaks, potatoes, corn ever in the Midwest (Manny's in Minneapolis HUGE portions AMAZING steaks... but I digress)...

Long live SUGAR!!!!!

That is all.

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[Seshmeister]

What the fuck is Von doing in California? :)

[ThrillsNSpills]

It's good to see people aren't falling for the high fructose corn syrup bullshit.
Despite manipulative garbage like this:

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[PETE'S BROTHER]

now they wanna call it "corn sugar"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100915/ap_on_he_me/us_corn_syrup_image;_ylt=AhEmRXTG4qgyvw9zR6pgIs.s0 NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFkcHJtNWZsBHBvcwMxNTEEc2VjA2FjY29yZ Glvbl9oZWFsdGgEc2xrA2Nvcm5zeXJ1cHBybw--

[FORD]

Well, never let it be said that you can't get any useful information from Celebrity Apprentice.....

It was revealed on that dumb show tonight that "7-UP Retro" will be released soon, with real sugar, of course.

About damn time, considering they have been falsely advertising it as "all natural" for years now, and corn poison is NOT natural by any stretch of the imagination.

Last time I had a real 7 UP it was smuggled in from China, of all places. Tasted great though, so I'll be buying this shit when it comes out. The Sierra Mist just ain't cutting it......

[hideyoursheep]

Agree the Sierra Piss leaves alot to be desired...

The good news is..I have found an unlimited supply of throwbacks...from Florida to Ohio ever since March..still getting it today!

Also found stores stocking MexiCoke in glass bottles...probably my very favorite...it's just that you have to finish the whole bottle..can't screw the top back on, you know.:)

[Kristy]

I still can't fathom how the corn lobby can influence 2 private industry giants like Pepsico and Coke to the point of changing it's own recipe into one that is less popular....unless I'm just off the mark.

The switch to HFCS was done with no fanfare or warning....it seems like it just happened one day, and that's it. Not many people are even aware of the difference.....they think it's merely a label change to celebrate the 60 years of Pepsi, and nothing else. Fuck it, man...I'm not gonna get into the HFCS debate with them-more throwback for ME!! ;)

Hi!

How you doing today? Good? Great! Let me introduce you to the Food Nazi:

[hideyoursheep]

:lmao:

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[FORD]

Haven't seen the 7UP Retro in the stores yet, but WinCo Foods is now carrying MexiSprite in the glass bottles. Fanta Orange with real sugar as well, and of course the MexiCoke. They don't sell it by the case unfortunately, only by the single bottle, but at 88 cents a bottle, that's half the price that my neighborhood convenience store is selling the single MexiCokes for. But WinCo is way out on the northeast end of town so I wouldn't go out of my way, considering I don't drink the stuff every day anyhow. But if I'm driving that way anyway, might pick up a few bottles.

WinCo is only in the Pacific and Mountain time zones (so far) but if you live in one of those states, might want to check it out.

[ODShowtime]

Also found stores stocking MexiCoke in glass bottles...probably my very favorite...it's just that you have to finish the whole bottle..can't screw the top back on, you know.:)

A store next to my dealer has the glass bottled coke with real sugar. That's the solution. That's what I drink now when I want a soft drink. I still have two 12 packs of the Dr Pepper throwback from earlier in this thread. It's actually not that good. Mexicoke is the standard.

[indeedido]

There is a place here called "Pops" that has soda pop from all around the world. Colas, root beer, cream soda, etc.....they have mexican coke and Dublin Dr. Pepper. I love me some Dublin Dr. Pepper.

[ashstralia]

http://www.bundaberg.com/info/product_range/ginger_beer/

see if you can get some of this, it's awesome!

[twonabomber]

A store next to my dealer has the glass bottled coke with real sugar. That's the solution. That's what I drink now when I want a soft drink. I still have two 12 packs of the Dr Pepper throwback from earlier in this thread. It's actually not that good. Mexicoke is the standard.

local chain (OK, they're out of Pittsburgh) carries the Mexican Coke in the "ethnic" aisle...for a buck a bottle. not much of a price break at Sam's Club, it's $18.88 for 24 bottles.

[Unchainme]

local chain (OK, they're out of Pittsburgh) carries the Mexican Coke in the "ethnic" aisle...for a buck a bottle. not much of a price break at Sam's Club, it's $18.88 for 24 bottles.

Giant Iggle?

bought a couple a while back

[SunisinuS]

I still like Soda Water.

[FORD]

Have you guys heard of/tried GuS? I had abstained from drinking soda, but couple weeks ago I saw a display of GuS beverages in a local supermarket and was interested in that the beverages are made from cane sugar and are less than 100 calories. So I picked up the ginger ale, pomegranate and meyer lemon. They are less sweet and more bubbly than mainstream soda.


Haven't seen that around here yet. Looks like every QFC in the state carries it, EXCEPT for the one here locally. That fucking figures. Sounds like a great product though, so I'll probably hassle the manager about it next time I visit that store.

[FORD]

Holy shit, it looks like the 7Up company is doing this right.......

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_7upretro_official1.jpg

Yes, those are honest to God GLASS fucking bottles.


Oh yeah, it does come in cans too......

http://www.bevreview.com/wp-content/image_7upretro_official21.jpg

Really don't see how the "zebra" striped can has anything to do with the classic 7Up formula, but then it was designed by a country singer and a rapper working for Donald Trump, so go figure...... Supposedly, this stuff should be in the stores now (though I haven't seen it yet)

[Nitro Express]

I took a bunch of kids out to a local burger joint and they have Mexican Fanta and Coke in the old school bottles. Those kids thought those bottles were the coolest things and they all kept them. I told them I could heat the bottles and stretch the necks out and so we made old school bottle art you used to see at state fairs in the 70's. I always loved the old vending machines where you pulled the bottle out of the hole and if you were really cool you slammed the edge of the cap on the edge of a counter and popped the cap off that way. Plastic bottles are so boring.

I remember being in Cusco, Peru in the hotel and I grabbed a can of Sprite and opened it. It sprayed all over the ceiling. I grabbed a bottle of Inca Cola and it sprayed all over. I couldn't figure out what was going on until I looked at the containers and saw the soda pop was bottled in Lima which is sea level and Cusco is around 11,000 feet above sea level. The low atmospheric pressure was making one hell of a mess.

[ThrillsNSpills]

It's no surprize this thread keeps going and going.

Soda used to taste incredible.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Every time I see the corn sugar lie on TV I cringe because of people who don't know better that will believe just because it's been repeated several times.

[Matt White]

I'm gonna get some REAL 7UP!!!

[ThrillsNSpills]

take a chug for me matthew !

[Nitro Express]

I'm gonna get some REAL 7UP!!!

Then you are going to fill a tall shot glass halfway with Jose Cuervo, top the rest off with 7Up, slam it down hard on the counter and chug the foaming result.

[FORD]

Then you are going to fill a tall shot glass halfway with Jose Cuervo, top the rest off with 7Up, slam it down hard on the counter and chug the foaming result.

All the more reason to keep the real sugar formulas, because the corn poison doesn't mix well with alcohol either. :bottle:

[Little Texan]

Looks like Dr Pepper is going after their own for using real sugar. I guess more people are buying the Dublin Dr Pepper than the regular corn poison tainted shit and that's eating into their oh so precious profit margin. Why don't they just give the people what they want, switch to sugar and pass the extra cost on to the consumers? I believe consumers have shown through their buying Mexican Coke and Dublin Dr Pepper that they don't mind paying more for soda with real sugar in it.


Dr. Pepper Sues Dr. Pepper Bottler Over Cane Sugar "Dublin Dr. Pepper"

Link (http://consumerist.com/2011/06/dr-pepper-sues-dr-pepper-bottler-over-real-sugar-dublin-dr-pepper.html)

Last summer, when Dr. Pepper sold a limited-edition version of the beverage that used cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup, we mentioned that some soda fans in Texas are always able to get their hands on Dr. Pepper from the old-school Dublin Dr. Pepper bottling plant that never made the change over to HFCS. But parent company Dr. Pepper Snapple Group Inc. says the Dublin folks have been selling their brew outside its designated area using the name Dublin Dr. Pepper in violation of their agreement.

Dr. Pepper Snapple filed a lawsuit in a U.S. District Court on Tuesday, asking a court to order the bottler to stop using the Dublin Dr. Pepper name and logo.

"In the simplest terms, the bottler in Dublin is using a logo that is no longer authorized and is taking business from fellow Dr Pepper bottlers who play by the rules and sell within their defined territories," an executive with Dr. Pepper Snapple says. "We owe it to our other bottlers to stop these unauthorized practices."

In a statement on the Dublin Dr. Pepper website, the bottler responds to the suit:

“
We are surprised to learn that our corporate partner has taken this action, but we are confident that this lawsuit will not succeed. We have been a loyal partner to Dr Pepper Snapple longer than any other bottler, and we've worked successfully with several different ownership groups for our parent company to become one of the company's most successful franchisees. It is unfortunate that Dr Pepper Snapple's attorneys are asking our overburdened court system to resolve what we believe is a business matter, but we look forward to telling our side of the story before a judge and jury, and we will continue to provide great products and great service to every one of our customers.
”

The Dublin plant has been in operation since 1891 and claims to bottle the original Dr. Pepper formula.

Lawsuit: Dublin Dr Pepper Not What Doctor Ordered [CBSlocal.com]

[Little Texan]

It's no surprize this thread keeps going and going.

Soda used to taste incredible.

Yep, and now it tastes incredibly shitty. I wish they would ban corn poison in the US like they have in Europe, but the corn lobby is too strong and has too much influence on our bought and paid for congresspeople, I guess.

[ODShowtime]

the throwback pepsi is pretty good this summer. That and mexican cokes is enough for me. Shame but the throwback Dr Pepper wasn't very good. I still have some of that from last year.

[Little Texan]

According to Wikipedia, Pepsi has made the throwback lines a permanent addition to their soft drink lineup. I saw them both at the store, earlier, and I bought a 12 pack of the Mountain Dew Throwback. Now if only Coca-Cola would get a clue and offer their own retro soft drink products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throwback_%28drink%29

[FORD]

The Pepsi seems to be in the stores most of the time now, but not so much the Mountain Dew. Which is OK, because there's some preservatives and shit in there that I'd rather not drink, real sugar or not. Really wish they would keep the Dr. Pepper around though. And that Coca Cola would realize that it ain't just the Mexicans and the Jews who like actual sugar in their Coke.

I seldom drink any of it anymore, since I'm avoiding sugar for the most part, but this being the holiday season. I might have a need to use something as a "mixer" or whatever.

[Unchainme]

The Pepsi seems to be in the stores most of the time now, but not so much the Mountain Dew. Which is OK, because there's some preservatives and shit in there that I'd rather not drink, real sugar or not. Really wish they would keep the Dr. Pepper around though. And that Coca Cola would realize that it ain't just the Mexicans and the Jews who like actual sugar in their Coke.

I seldom drink any of it anymore, since I'm avoiding sugar for the most part, but this being the holiday season. I might have a need to use something as a "mixer" or whatever.

Mountain Dew Throwback I found at the super wal mart nearby.

[FORD]

What the hell is a "super" WalMart? Wouldn't that be a "Sam's Club"?

[Unchainme]

What the hell is a "super" WalMart? Wouldn't that be a "Sam's Club"?

Pretty much a wall mart with a grocery store.

normally am not a huge fan of shopping at a place like that, but the local grocery has very little in variety at times.

[chefcraig]

The trend has been picked up by Target as well, as the chain started adding grocery departments here a couple of years ago and rechristening the stores as "Target Superstores." The thing is, the food is roughly 10-20 % more expensive than a regular grocery, so like a 7-11, the selection is dire and you are paying for the alleged convenience. Even so, I have serious doubts about their meat and poultry.

[Unchainme]

The trend has been picked up by Target as well, as the chain started adding grocery departments here a couple of years ago and rechristening the stores as "Target Superstores." The thing is, the food is roughly 10-20 % more expensive than a regular grocery, so like a 7-11, the selection is dire and you are paying for the alleged convenience. Even so, I have serious doubts about their meat and poultry.

Wall-Mart I think had a few things cheaper than the other sorrounding stories. So the prices are indeed better.

The people shopping there are about the only issue you'll find, but you'll get that.

[chefcraig]

Wall-Mart I think had a few things cheaper than the other sorrounding stories. So the prices are indeed better.

The people shopping there are about the only issue you'll find, but you'll get that.

I do all of the food shopping for the house, so I'm up on the pricing of groceries. While Target and Walmart have a few items at bargain costs in order to get you into the store (the stuff posted in the weekly ads), by and large the prices for everything else are well above Winn Dixie or Publix, or at least are in this region.

Years ago before gas station/convenience stores popped up on every block and around the time McDonald's introduced it's truly ghastly salads (which they haven't really improved upon all that much since then) we had a saying: "You don't buy bread at the Hess station, and you don't eat salad made by McDonald's." The same law pretty much applies to the here and now, you don't buy your chicken salad the same place you buy your underwear and tires.

[FORD]

Yeah, both of the local Targets recently added the "grocery" sections. I wasn't very impressed with the addition. But (back on topic) at least Target usually has a good supply of the REAL Dr. Pepper when it's on the market.

Though in the month of December, walking into Target is just as horrible as any mall http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/xmas/a026.gif

[FORD]

No real news here to report... just a rant about packaging.....

My neighborhood convenience store has carried the single bottles of MexiCoke for some time now. Today I noticed they also started carrying Mexican Pepsi, which also comes in glass bottles. They also have the domestic "Pepsi Throwback" in the evil plastic bottles.

So I thought I would try my own version of the old "Pepsi Challenge". Bought one of each and compared the taste......

No contest: The MexiPepsi was better. IT"S THE GLASS BOTTLE, STUPID!!!

What sucks is that the 12 oz MexiPepsi costs more than the 20 oz plastic bottle.

Pepsi deserves credit for keeping the Throwback on the market, but for the love of all that's holy, give up the petro-plastic bottles already.

And maybe now that the Frankencorn crop has gone to Hell this summer, we will finally see Coca Cola get on board with actual sugar (aside from that limited run they make for the Rabbis every year)

[Nitro Express]

You can get a whole flat of Mexican coke in glass bottles at Cosco. One of the stores here has a whole isle of Mexican stuff since our economy is based on tourism and we have a lot of Mexicans who work in the resturaunts and housekeeping. We have Mexican Pepsi, Fanta orange, Coca Cola, Sprite, and variouse flavors of Jarritos all in glass capped bottles.

[Nitro Express]

The thing about plastic bottles is put an empty capped two liter bottle out in the sun for awhile. Open it up and smell the inside. It will smell like the chemicals the plastic is made from. That leaches into whatever is in the bottle. I know they are convienient, save of weight, don't break, but glass leaches nothing into the food and is 100% recycleable. It's interesting people won't buy beer in a plastic bottle. The only place I saw beer in a plastic bottle was Russia and it was in a two liter on at that.

[FORD]

Costco.... Winco....Grocery Outlet. It's turning up in a lot of places now.

Which figures.... they make it easier to find, after I give up sugar & white carbs, for the most part.

[Little Texan]

Ford, have you tried any of the Mexican Sprite? I'm usually not much on Sprite, and have always preferred 7-up, but the Mexican Sprite tastes awesome, and there is no comparison between it and the American corn poison version. The Mexican version is soooooooo much better!

[Nitro Express]

Get some Mexican Sprite. A tall shot glass and some blanco tequila. Fill about a third of the glass with tequila, and top the rest off with Sprite. Put your hand over the top of the shot glass and slam it down on the counter or table top. It will fizz up and then shoot it.

[FORD]

I've tried the Sprite and the Fanta orange. They aren't as easy to find as the MexiCoke, but they turn up now and then.

Both are definitely much better, because the corn poison is arguably tolerable in a cola if you can't find better, but it simply doesn't mix with anything fruit flavored.

Back in the 70s, my mom used to buy Shasta pop, because it was usually cheaper, and it came in all these weird fruit flavors like red apple, tiki punch, and all that. They were one of the first to switch to the corn poison, and I couldn't stand to drink it after that.

First time I ever tried Jones Green Apple Soda, it was like a childhood flashback, because it was so close to what the Shasta Red Apple was, before they ruined it.

[Little Texan]

First time I ever tried Jones Green Apple Soda, it was like a childhood flashback, because it was so close to what the Shasta Red Apple was, before they ruined it.

If you like Apple flavored soda, and if you can find it in the Great Northwest, try a Mexican brand called Sidral Mundet. There's a regular version that is pretty good, and a green apple one that is exceptional.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3422801652_14da142bd3.jpg

[FORD]

If you like Apple flavored soda, and if you can find it in the Great Northwest, try a Mexican brand called Sidral Mundet. There's a regular version that is pretty good, and a green apple one that is exceptional.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3422801652_14da142bd3.jpg

I think I've seen that stuff. Though the store that used to carry it went out of business, unfortunately. (They had Jarritos too, which I don't really care for.... just too sweet. It's like sugar water. Which is better than corn poison water, I guess.... but not by much.)

[ashstralia]

i found cans of dr. peppers in my local supermarket.. i love that stuff.

[Nitro Express]

I think I've seen that stuff. Though the store that used to carry it went out of business, unfortunately. (They had Jarritos too, which I don't really care for.... just too sweet. It's like sugar water. Which is better than corn poison water, I guess.... but not by much.)

My kids love the lime Jarritos. I don't mind the tamarind. Lime is popular though the store has a hard time keeping that flavor in stock.

[Nitro Express]

i found cans of dr. peppers in my local supermarket.. i love that stuff.

Dr. Pepper originated in Texas. That's where my father in law is from. Down there you can get it with real cane sugar in it and it's much better than the corn syrup version.

[ashstralia]

yeah, i read the bio of ben hogan the legendary golfer. his dad worked at the factory. here it's all cane sugar, it's one of our big crops locally.

[Nitro Express]

Jones sodas are fab. I just don't drink that much soda pop anymore. I'm trying to keep my weight down because I'm rock climbing now.

[Nitro Express]

yeah, i read the bio of ben hogan the legendary golfer. his dad worked at the factory. here it's all cane sugar, it's one of our big crops locally.

The same in east Texas and Louisianna. They grow sugar cane. Most the Dr. Pepper is sweetened with corn syrup because we grow a lot of corn in the US and it's cheaper. Cane sugar makes a better tasting soda pop.

[ashstralia]

we grow sugar, bananas, beef, milk, honey, and other exotic agronomic delights here.

mmmm. :)

[twonabomber]

we make the labels for the Jarritos bottles, and also the Bud Light and Bud Select labels. so drink up, i like working the OT. :D

i have switched to the Zeros, mostly Cherry Coke, regular Coke, and Sprite. the Sprite is pretty good. every now and then i'll buy a flat of the MexiCoke at Sam's. Jarritos is pretty common here, the city i grew up in is now a sanctuary city for the illegals and a lot of stores have big Mexican food sections.

my stepfather would always claim that the coloring in whatever drink makes one more thirsty, so we'd stick to clear drinks on the job site.

[Nitro Express]

we grow sugar, bananas, beef, milk, honey, and other exotic agronomic delights here.

mmmm. :)

We used to be a big cattle producing area but tourism and skiing took over. It takes a lot of Mexicans to prepare the food, clean up the mess, and make the beds. The upside is you have a good selection of hot sauce and Mexican beer and soda pop in the stores.

[Nitro Express]

we make the labels for the Jarritos bottles, and also the Bud Light and Bud Select labels. so drink up, i like working the OT. :D

i have switched to the Zeros, mostly Cherry Coke, regular Coke, and Sprite. the Sprite is pretty good. every now and then i'll buy a flat of the MexiCoke at Sam's. Jarritos is pretty common here, the city i grew up in is now a sanctuary city for the illegals and a lot of stores have big Mexican food sections.

my stepfather would always claim that the coloring in whatever drink makes one more thirsty, so we'd stick to clear drinks on the job site.

I stopped drinking Gatorade and drink coconut water instead. You can buy it at the store now and it's an excellent hydrator and source of electrolytes without the corn syrup and chemicals.

[twonabomber]

there's Powerade Zero, too. but some of those taste like water with a crayon dipped in it.

[FORD]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2h5shsj.jpg

Now if "sugar" actually means SUGAR here, then this would be excellent news.

Though I would really hope they have an all sugar version as well. Or an all Stevia diet version for that matter.

But this hybrid seems promising, and certainly much more so than the "10" series of Pepsi products, which combine the worst possible sweeteners, HFCS & Rumsfeld's neurotoxin Aspartame.

[ODShowtime]

I bought some glass bottle pepsi this week at the gas station that appears to be bottled in US but had sugar instead of the HFCS. Like mexipepsi but with a fancy bottle. Yummy.

I'm sorry but I just wish it was still the 70s. What wasn't better then? Video games... ok ANYTHING else at all??

[Nitro Express]

I can remember the 70's. Carter was president and disco was the rage and everyone said things sucked and they wished it was the 1950's again.

[Nitro Express]

If you like Apple flavored soda, and if you can find it in the Great Northwest, try a Mexican brand called Sidral Mundet. There's a regular version that is pretty good, and a green apple one that is exceptional.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3422801652_14da142bd3.jpg

It sounds like something that would give you the shits.

[ODShowtime]

I can remember the 70's. Carter was president and disco was the rage and everyone said things sucked and they wished it was the 1950's again.


Led Zeppelin, Pittsburgh Steelers, big old bushes, smokin' cigs everywhere, everyone doin coke, new music was good; sounds awesome.

I have a feeling everyone and everything in the 70s stunk to high heaven like cigarettes and BO though.

[ashstralia]

I have a feeling everyone and everything in the 70s stunk to high heaven like cigarettes and BO though.

And stale beer dregs...
Here's a thing, today at the local discount joint I bought a 6 pack of Dr Peppers canned in the U.K. of all places. $8.

Now don't laugh, ok? For years I've thought coke is way too sweet. I think it stems back to my childhood at the race track. (My fam was heavily involved in horse racing). You'd get a postmix coke from the bar, and it had a bigger water/syrup ratio, and ice half filling the glass. So I water it down. Half half is a bit too weak, 70/30 is perfect.

I'll let ya's know what the British Doctor tastes like later, drinking VB now. :D

[Kristy]

Pepsi blows.

[ashstralia]

No, it's Dr Peppers. Do you like Earl Grey tea and Tim Tams when you're stoned? I do.

[Satan]

I miss Red Bull Cola. It was less sweet than Coke and certainly Pepsi, and it was all natural flavor, with real sugar.

http://image.redbull.com/rbx00264/0100/0/406/products/packshots/global/cola-new-tiny_1.png

Somebody (probably Coca-Cola Inc. or Pepsico) started a nasty rumor that it had cocaine in it, reality is that they used the same "unleaded" coca leaves that they use in Atlanta, so you would have to drink an entire pallet of the stuff to get the equivalent of snorting a line.

But the rumor spread in the hysterical media and all the stores panicked and took it off the shelves. And mind you, that was up on Earth. The distribution here in Hell was even far more problematic on a good day.

[ashstralia]

The reason I bought the British Pepper, mr zub, is it says it has actual sugar. Where that sugar came from, I've no idea.

[Satan]

As far as I know, the corn poison is only used in the US. Though I'm sure Monsanto would love to change that. And probably will if your mortal governments are gullible enough to pass the Trans Pacific Partnership.

[ashstralia]

Sugar is a big industry where I live. Real sugar from cane pressed in 100 year old mills.

[Angel]

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/health/story/1.1894262

[Satan]

Nobody is ever going to confuse sugar for health food, but the bottom line with any carbohydrate is that the more refined it is, the less likely it is that your mortal bodies are going to be able to do anything useful with it. And the HFCS is the worst of those, not to mention it comes from a GMO source, and uses toxins in the processing.

[ODShowtime]

Do you like Earl Grey tea and Tim Tams when you're stoned? I do.

What the fuck's Tim Tams? [googling] Oh damn those look pretty good.

[Satan]

No, it's Dr Peppers. Do you like Earl Grey tea and Tim Tams when you're stoned? I do.

A succubus that I dated a few years back got me briefly hooked on Apple Jacks cereal with vanilla ice cream for post-bong munchies.

Oddly appropriate for the wake & bakers. :littlebong:

[ashstralia]

Yeah OD, everyone who tries Tim Tams loves 'em!

[fraroc]

I bought some glass bottle pepsi this week at the gas station that appears to be bottled in US but had sugar instead of the HFCS. Like mexipepsi but with a fancy bottle. Yummy.

I'm sorry but I just wish it was still the 70s. What wasn't better then? Video games... ok ANYTHING else at all??

If it was still the 70s, than we wouldn't have gotten THIS.

http://rockonteur.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/van-halen-truth.jpg

[Satan]

well.... except for the fact that half of that album was written in the 70s.

[FORD]

I bought some glass bottle pepsi this week at the gas station that appears to be bottled in US but had sugar instead of the HFCS. Like mexipepsi but with a fancy bottle.

Yep... the glass bottle Pepsi is at my local neighborhood store as well. The bottles are similar to that "Pepsi Natural" stuff that they put out a few years back, that tasted more like liquid brown sugar than Pepsi.

They also have Mountain Dew in green glass bottles, with a 70s/80s label on it.

Curiously enough, neither bottle says "throwback" on it. Maybe they figured that the glass bottle should be enough of a clue that it's "old school". Tastes better than the cans or the plastic bottles though, so let's hope they keep making it.

[FORD]

It sounds like something that would give you the shits.

That apple stuff's not bad. There's a tortilla store/taqueria a couple miles down the road that sells them. They also have MexiCoke in 16 oz glass bottles, which I haven't seen anywhere else (the 12 oz bottles are easy enough to find now, of course)

[Satan]

http://ncimages.pepsi.com/Zz0wZjlkZWYwMzAxZDgyNTBlODE1MTRhN2VjMjQxZmNkMQ==?w idth=760

The black can variety hasn't reached Hell yet, so I don't know whether this is more like the "Throwback" Pepsi, or that "Natural" stuff they had out in glass bottles a few years back that tasted more like liquid brown sugar than anything else.

The Ginger flavor is most unholy indeed. Haven't tried it as a mixer yet, but I'll bet it would go fantastic with rum or tequila.

Think I'll take some of this over to Kim Jong Il's Bulgogi BBQ Restaurant. It would mix great with Korean food.....