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ELVIS
04-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Capt. Richard Phillips jumps overboard but is pulled back by his captors, officials say. Military officials at the scene are attempting to keep other vessels away.
By Julian E. Barnes
April 10, 2009 (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-somali-pirates11-2009apr11,0,3373558.story)
Reporting from Washington -- The American captain of a cargo ship who is being held captive by Somali pirates on a lifeboat tried to escape by jumping overboard but was recaptured a short time later, a U.S. official said today.
Capt. Richard Phillips, who was taken by the pirates on Wednesday in a failed effort to seize the Maersk Alabama, jumped out of the lifeboat and attempted to swim to safety. He may have been trying to reach one of the nearby U.S. Navy ships keeping watch.
Officials said they had heard, but could not confirm, reports that one of his captors jumped into the water after him, and that Phillips was pulled back into the lifeboat.
U.S. military officials on the scene observed him moving about on the lifeboat after he was recaptured, and he appeared to be unharmed.
The official also said that reports of dozens of other pirate ships approaching the lifeboat was an "overstatement," although officials did not dispute that some vessels had left Somali ports.
Keeping other pirate vessels away from the craft is key to the U.S. strategy. Defense officials believe their negotiating position will grow stronger as the pirates run low on supplies. Officials will probably try to prevent the pirates from moving to another vessel or halt any ship from re-supplying the lifeboat.
There are now two large naval vessels in the area, the destroyer Bainbridge and the frigate Halliburton. But the Navy did not appear to have a smaller boat in the water near the lifeboat at the time of the escape.
Bryan G. Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman, declined to answer questions about the escape attempt or confirm that it occurred. Asked why the Navy had not had smaller boats in the water to assist the captain during the rescue attempt, Whitman said that was an "oversimplification."
"People can second-guess the activities task force out there, but this is a vast body of water," Whitman said. "To operate in those waters and to be able to maneuver around, you need vessels that can move distances and have staying power."
julian.barnes@latimes.com
:elvis:
Hopefully it ends better than this one...
http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30154714/
France frees yacht off Somalia, hostage killed
Four other captives, including a child, are saved, officials say
PARIS - France's navy stormed a French sailboat held by pirates off the Somali coast Friday in an assault triggered by threats the passengers would be executed, but one hostage was killed in the operation, French Defense Minister Herve Morin said.
Two pirates also were killed. Four hostages, including a small child, were freed.
In a break with French government policy, authorities proposed a ransom but the pirates rejected the offer, Morin said. Three pirates were taken prisoner.
A grim-faced Morin said that "negotiations were leading nowhere, and the boat was approaching the coast." He said French President Nicolas Sarkozy gave the order to attack.
Dead hostage was boat's owner
The four remaining hostages, including the child, were being taken by French authorities to Djibouti. The dead hostage was identified as Florent Lemacon, the owner of the boat, the Tanit, and father of the family, the defense minister said.
The assault on the sailboat came as piracy cases continued to play out in the region. Pirates threatened to kill an American cargo ship captain held hostage by four Somali pirates after he jumped in the water Friday in a desperate attempt to escape.
In another case, a Norwegian tanker was released Friday some two weeks after it was seized by armed pirates off the Somali coast. All 27 of its crew were unhurt, the ship's owner said. The Norwegian shipowner Salhus Shipping AS refused to say whether any ransom had been paid.
Pirates had seized the French sailboat, the Tanit, last Saturday.
The rescue operation did not appear to be in any proximity to the current standoff involving an American captain being held hostage.
It was the third time the French have freed hostages from the hands of pirates but the first time a hostage had been killed.
Sarkozy's office said the death the hostage came at the end of a two-day ordeal in waters where the seizure of vessels by Somali pirates has become a common occurrence.
"During the operation, a hostage was unfortunately killed," the statement said adding that the four other hostages, including the child, were "safe and sound."
French policy on pirates
France's policy is to refuse to accept acts of piracy and avoid having French citizens taken ashore as hostages, the statement said.
The operation began Thursday when a Navy vessel contacted the pirates and "immobilized" the Tanit, it said.
"Negotiations were started to persuade the pirates to give up their criminal undertaking," said the statement.
"Today, threats were more precise, with the pirates refusing proposals and the Tanit moving toward the coast. An operation to free the hostages was decided."
The passengers in the Tanit, a tourist boat, had repeatedly been warned to avoid the dangerous waters around Somalia and the Gulf of Aden.
The boat, a Norwegian-made 14.5-meter (47.57-foot) sailboat with a single mast, was heading for the coast of Kenya when it was seized. The owners, Florent and Chloe Lemacon, had left the French port of Vanves in Brittany in July 2009 on an adventure with their three-year-old son, according to their blog. Two friends had joined them along the way.
Guitar Shark
04-10-2009, 04:17 PM
The owners, Florent and Chloe Lemacon, had left the French port of Vanves in Brittany in July 2009 on an adventure with their three-year-old son, according to their blog.
Time travelers I take it? ;)
ELVIS
04-10-2009, 04:22 PM
I missed that...
But why the hell would you sail your family into obvious known hostile waters ??
I missed that...
But why the hell would you sail your family into obvious known hostile waters ??
It's what happens when you are smarter then everyone else....
ELVIS
04-10-2009, 04:36 PM
I guess...
Nitro Express
04-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Why in the hell doesn't the shipping companies arm the crews? They can trust the captain and crew with hazardouse cargo and millions of dollars worth of goods and a ship. Gee. I would think you could trust them with some heavy machine guns and assult rifles to protect themselves and the ship. The US Navy can't police the world and piracy is only going to get worse.
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ELVIS
04-10-2009, 05:14 PM
Gee. I would think you could trust them with some heavy machine guns and assult rifles to protect themselves and the ship. The US Navy can't police the world and piracy is only going to get worse.
Piracy is what led to the formation of the US Navy...
The ship in question flew the US flag but is actually from a european country, I believe...
There were 42 vessels and 815 hostages reported last year...
Many go unreported due to high insurance costs...
:elvis:
Why in the hell doesn't the shipping companies arm the crews? They can trust the captain and crew with hazardouse cargo and millions of dollars worth of goods and a ship. Gee. I would think you could trust them with some heavy machine guns and assult rifles to protect themselves and the ship. The US Navy can't police the world and piracy is only going to get worse.
Maybe Steven Segal is available for a cook job on one of these freighters...
Kristy
04-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Why in the hell doesn't the shipping companies arm the crews?
It's not that easy. A lot of foreign and even most domestic U.S. ports will not allow a ship to dock if it is commercial and armed. It's like traveling by land or air in that you have to go through customs and even on the seas time is money and having to claim firepower will only slow them down.
Dr. Love
04-10-2009, 07:21 PM
We have a frigate named "The Halliburton"?
A interesting little twist...
The destroyer involved is the USS Bainbridge, which is named after William Bainbridge.
An American naval officer who fought pirates off the Barbary Coast in the early 19th century.
Redballjets88
04-10-2009, 08:13 PM
Why don't we just man the fuck up and show these cocksuckers what happens when you pirate American ships?
They'll fuck off once we start shooting missiles into their shitty boats.
We have a frigate named "The Halliburton"?
It's actually Halyburton. Named after a war hero from WWII, not Darth Cheney's favorite corporation.
History (http://www.halyburton.navy.mil/site%20pages/history.aspx)
Why don't we just man the fuck up and show these cocksuckers what happens when you pirate American ships?
They'll fuck off once we start shooting missiles into their shitty boats.
To a degree you are right...but....
These are poor people doing what they can to get money.
They are not killing people for sport then leaving.
Look at some of the weapons they are using.
http://frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/in-mcf-2.jpg
The problem is you need to destroy who ever is running the pirates...because for every pirate you kill...another will take his place.
You need to eliminate the head...
Some pictures...
I am amazed the Russian's did not do more when the tanks where held...
Pirates of Somalia - The Big Picture - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/pirates_of_somalia.html)
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 09:15 PM
It would be funny if the US turned their navy on them or perhaps launched a war on another front with Somalia. Which tiny country will prove the tipping point for the US' stability.
hideyoursheep
04-10-2009, 09:26 PM
The problem is you need to destroy who ever is running the pirates...because for every pirate you kill...another will take his place.
You need to eliminate the head...
Then you would have to eliminate their corrupt govt., because these fuckers are in on it. That's why it hasn't stopped.
Whatever the pirates steal is held in port until you pay the locals a recovery fee.
Pirates also use huge fishing nets too far offshore as to affect the food supply of the villagers fishing for survival
They don't mind killing their own, either.
Then you would have to eliminate their corrupt govt., because these fuckers are in on it. That's why it hasn't stopped.
Whatever the pirates steal is held in port until you pay the locals a recovery fee.
Pirates also use huge fishing nets too far offshore as to affect the food supply of the villagers fishing for survival
They don't mind killing their own, either.
Starving the villagers...is this a way of recruiting more pirates?
Would certainly give you an endless supply of poor buggers to send off with a rusty weapon.
I figured when the freighter carring russian tanks was taken...the Russian's would make an example of them.
Never happened...I was surprised by that.
ELVIS
04-10-2009, 09:41 PM
It would be funny if the US turned their navy on them or perhaps launched a war on another front with Somalia. Which tiny country will prove the tipping point for the US' stability.
Well, the Somalis kicked our asses when Clinton sent troops there...
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Well, the Somalis kicked our asses when Clinton sent troops there...
Well, if you call losing 18 Rangers/Delta Force members to probably over 1000 Somali gunmen, then a Warlord (Adid) who died from a very accurately fired sniper's bullet (long after the US left Somalia), getting "our asses kicked"...I guess.
BTW idiot, it wasn't Clinton that "sent" our troops there, George H.W. Bush sent them in, Clinton inherited the situation...
hideyoursheep
04-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Well, the Somalis kicked our asses when Clinton sent troops there...
"Our" asses...
:rolleyes:
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 10:50 PM
It would be funny if the US turned their navy on them or perhaps launched a war on another front with Somalia. Which tiny country will prove the tipping point for the US' stability.
Yeah, because there is nothing more "funny" than wars and lots of people getting killed...
Incidentally, the US special operations have been active there along with the Ethiopian Army...
And "which tiny country will prove the tipping point for the US' stability." Is that a question or a statement? Cause I notice it was actually the Indian Navy that went all fucking Rambo and shit and started shooting up Somali fishing boats and killing innocent fishermen because they thought they were pirate "mother ships."
Redballjets88
04-10-2009, 10:51 PM
To a degree you are right...but....
These are poor people doing what they can to get money.
They are not killing people for sport then leaving.
Look at some of the weapons they are using.
http://frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/in-mcf-2.jpg
The problem is you need to destroy who ever is running the pirates...because for every pirate you kill...another will take his place.
You need to eliminate the head...
Amount of money is no excuse. I don't have a lot of money, does that mean I have an excuse to go rob the first national down the street? Or if my car is broken down do I get to steal another persons vehicle?
I feel bad that they live in a third world war torn nation but for christs sake it is no excuse to attack innocent people who are doing their job.
They have already shown that they are unwilling to stop or negotiate so that only leaves one option.
Well, if you call losing 18 Rangers/Delta Force members to probably over 1000 Somali gunmen, then a Warlord (Adid) who died from a very accurately fired sniper's bullet (long after the US left Somalia), getting "our asses kicked"...I guess.
BTW idiot, it wasn't Clinton that "sent" our troops there, George H.W. Bush sent them in, Clinton inherited the situation...
I think a Malaysian soldier was killed during the rescue too...
Amount of money is no excuse. I don't have a lot of money, does that mean I have an excuse to go rob the first national down the street? Or if my car is broken down do I get to steal another persons vehicle?
I feel bad that they live in a third world war torn nation but for christs sake it is no excuse to attack innocent people who are doing their job.
They have already shown that they are unwilling to stop or negotiate so that only leaves one option.
I am not condoning what they are doing...but you can not compare them to yourself.
No matter what...You can get a job...
Redballjets88
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
also check out the weapons the people on the commercial ships have...
http://www.cvshealthresources.com/Imagebank/adam/9171.jpg
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
I think a Malaysian soldier was killed during the rescue too...
Yeah, probably some Pakistani armored infantry/cavalry were shot up too...
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Yeah, because there is nothing more "funny" than wars and lots of people getting killed...
Libs are entertaining when they act conscious about things...
Incidentally, the US special operations have been active there along with the Ethiopian Army...
And "which tiny country will prove the tipping point for the US' stability." Is that a question or a statement? Cause I notice it was actually the Indian Navy that went all fucking Rambo and shit and started shooting up Somali fishing boats and killing innocent fishermen because they thought they were pirate "mother ships."
Don't see what that has to do with it, but so what? You kept bringing up whatever you believed to be my country of background as if it's an excuse. But I don't support the Indian navy's actions.
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:02 PM
Libs are entertaining when they act conscious about things...
So are ignorant Neo-Marxist pseudo anti-Imperialist phonies...
Don't see what that has to do with it, but so what? You kept bringing up whatever you believed to be my country of background as if it's an excuse. But I don't support the Indian navy's actions.
I merely stated a fact that you were unaware of, but there are a lot of those...
BTW, by not supporting your country you're expatriated from, does that make you a "liberal?"
So are ignorant Neo-Marxist pseudo anti-Imperialist phonies...
Dear God....now that is a mouth full.
Try saying that fast three times...
edit...
Make that 10 times...three was not as hard as I thought...
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 11:06 PM
Oooh, I don't know all the facts of the daily news items, how awfully ignorant of me.
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Oooh, I don't know all the facts of the daily news items, how awfully ignorant of me.
We wouldn't want to interrupt Duran Duran "happy time" by reading a newspaper, would we?
Maybe you should put down your vintage copies of US teen girl fanzines speculating on Simon Lebon's ass-waxing once in a while?
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 11:10 PM
Because following up on every soundbite and non-issue brings enlightenment...
Ass waxing is surely more of a modern lib thing than anything else?
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Because following up on every news tidbit and soundbite brings enlightenment...
Well, it makes me somewhat fucking aware of the Somali pirate problem we're discussing doesn't it, assslurpee?
I mean, Jesus-fucking Christ, why would we want to actually know what they fuck we are talking about or anything?
hideyoursheep
04-10-2009, 11:13 PM
Oooh, I don't know all the facts of the daily news items, how awfully ignorant of me.
Why bother pretending you do?
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 11:14 PM
Well, it makes me somewhat fucking aware of the Somali pirate problem we're discussing doesn't it, assslurpee?
I mean, Jesus-fucking Christ, why would we want to actually know what they fuck we are talking about or anything?
Knowing about the fisherman casualties has little to do with me speculating on a full blown US invasion of Somalia.
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:18 PM
Knowing about the fisherman casualties has little to do with me speculating on a full blown US invasion of Somalia.
"Speculating?" I think you mean "masturbating."
Somalia was already invaded, by Ethiopia...
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 11:20 PM
"Speculating?" I think you mean "masturbating."
Somalia was already invaded, by Ethiopia...
Fuck, you like jumping from topic to meaningless topic.
My post wasn't about invasions of Somalia in general, just about what it would do to the US. Masturbating... yes, that's exactly what you're doing, thanks for projecting.
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:25 PM
Fuck, you like jumping from topic to meaningless topic.
Um, WTF are you talking about? I am posting in no more "meaningless topics" than you are, princess...
My post wasn't about invasions of Somalia in general, just about what it would do to the US. Masturbating... yes, that's exactly what you're doing, thanks for projecting.
What would the US do? You offered no specifics and you seem to speculate mostly crap based on what you want to believe rather than actual facts or histories...
Is the fact that Somali pirates are hijacking shipping around the Horn of Africa somehow just a US problem now?
Nickdfresh
04-10-2009, 11:25 PM
Related: French hostage killed, four others saved as French Naval Commandos storm hijacked yacht...
France frees yacht off Somalia, hostage killed - Somalia- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30154714)
Andy Taylor
04-10-2009, 11:27 PM
Um, WTF are you talking about? I am posting in no more "meaningless topics" than you are, princess...
It's not the topic that is meaningless, it's your pointless rambling.
I only said the Indian killing of fisherman was wrong.
thome
04-10-2009, 11:33 PM
So what you doof'asses are saying is if I walk over to the "Pirate" and stick a hole in his head 5.56 mm by 9 inches long.
We have to go to war with Somalia..?
You guys need help.
That's the problem with you douches caring even a small amount for the oppressed it give rights to the oppressor ...Fukk em both.
Smoke the pirates, and if Captain I wasn't watching, gets smoked so be it.
I am almost possitive by Obamas lack of forward action, the innocents are scared maimed destroyed ..beyond help... for life..... anyway...?
Why not give them some closure.
Perhaps the ACLU has some billing being prosessed as we speak.
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hideyoursheep
04-10-2009, 11:58 PM
English, please.
If you have a point, make one.
English, please.
If you have a point, make one.
I think he said he is going for a swim...
Nickdfresh
04-11-2009, 12:07 AM
It's not the topic that is meaningless, it's your pointless rambling.
Which is it? Why do you keep responding?
I only said the Indian killing of fisherman was wrong.
Wow, you really are the fucking Albert Schweitzer himself!!!
Let me nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize...
ELVIS
04-11-2009, 12:09 AM
Hmmm...
kwame k
04-11-2009, 12:09 AM
I think he said he is going for a swim...
That or something about douching :umm:
ELVIS
04-11-2009, 12:36 AM
Clinton's Black Hawk History
On Somalia, the ex-president is as mendacious as ever
The Wall Street Journal
August 6, 2002 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/728352/posts)
We wish Bill Clinton a quiet retirement, if only he'd return the favor. But when the former President distorts history for the sake of political advantage, someone has to clean up afterward.
Responding to Bush Administration suggestions that some of today's corporate scandals first got out of hand under his watch, Mr. Clinton recently shot back: "These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
We can understand Mr. Clinton wanting to defend himself, but as usual he can't get his own facts straight. His introduction of Somalia here is one of those breathtakingly brazen attempts to dodge responsibility for which Mr. Clinton is justly famous. Here's the real history:
President Bush the Elder sent U.S. forces into Somalia in December 1992 to aid the United Nations in relieving a massive famine. In May of 1993, four months into his term, President Clinton declared that mission accomplished and pulled out most of the U.S. forces. In a speech on the South Lawn to associate himself with the effort, he extolled the decision to intervene: "If all of you who served had not gone, it is absolutely certain that tens of thousands would have died by now." It was a "successful mission," he said, and "proved yet again that American leadership can help to mobilize international action ..."
But back in Somalia, with no U.S. deterrent, Somalia's warlords began fighting again. After a series of bloody attacks on U.N. peacekeepers, Mr. Clinton launched a new mission: In August 1993, he sent in a force of Rangers and Special Forces units to capture the brutal warlord Mohammad Farrah Aidid and restore order.
That force asked for heavy armor -- in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles -- as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.
Many military experts believe that if the U.S. forces had had armor, fewer would have died. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin resigned two months after Somalia, having acknowledged that his decision on the armor had been an error. A 1994 Senate Armed Services Committee investigation reached the same conclusion. But perhaps the most poignant statement came from retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Joyce, father of Sergeant Casey Joyce, a Ranger killed in Mogadishu: "Had there been armor ... I contend that my son would probably be alive today ..."
Mr. Clinton's responsibility in Somalia doesn't stop there. Despite the mistakes that October day, Aidid had been struck a blow. The U.S. military, with 18 dead, wanted nothing more than to finish what it had started. Mr. Clinton instead aborted the mission. The U.S. released the criminals it had captured that same day at such great cost, and the U.N., lacking U.S. support, was powerless to keep order. Somalia remains a lawless, impoverished nation. Worse, the terrorists of al Qaeda interpreted the U.S. retreat from Somalia as a sign of American weakness that may have convinced them we could be induced to retreat from the Middle East if they took their attacks to the U.S. homeland.
Those are the facts. The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events had nothing to do with him. They were Mr. Clinton's responsibility, and his alone.
:elvis:
Nickdfresh
04-11-2009, 01:35 AM
Great! Elvira posts an 02' op-ed from the WSJ without ever actually challenging his "facts."
Clinton didn't send US military personnel into Somalia, Bush did, and the op-ed criticizes Clinton for pulling them out. So Elvis, do you think that we shouldn't have 'cut and run' from Somalia? Are we the world's policeman that is responsible for "nation-building" now? Because it seems that you voted against all of that...
And here is the typical bullshit rightist red-herring on all of this:
That force asked for heavy armor -- in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles -- as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.
Many military experts believe that if the U.S. forces had had armor, fewer would have died. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin resigned two months after Somalia, having acknowledged that his decision on the armor had been an error. A 1994 Senate Armed Services Committee investigation reached the same conclusion. But perhaps the most poignant statement came from retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Joyce, father of Sergeant Casey Joyce, a Ranger killed in Mogadishu: "Had there been armor ... I contend that my son would probably be alive today ..."
Right! Only, if you actually read about the battle and facts, Clinton never "denied" any armor nor AC-130 gunships and the main problem was not lack of US firepower, but was the lack of "OPSEC," or US forces using the same exact plan to capture Adid and effectively allowing Somali gunman of the Warlord to create an ambush plan based on their predictable actions...
Nickdfresh
04-11-2009, 11:22 AM
Andy, if you keep posting such low quality, unfunny shit for the sake of troll-fighting, I promise that you'll no longer be able to post in this forum...or maybe we'll make a big thread especially for you in this forum. :)
Consider this a "warning," which I almost never give here.
LoungeMachine
04-11-2009, 03:01 PM
English, please.
If you have a point, make one.
That's his schtick.
He covers up the fact his points, if he ever actually has them, are weak and his gibberish is a deflection.
look at me, see how funny and off-the-wall I am? Don't you just wish I was writing my mojo for Rolling Stone? Aren't my "fakks" and non-sequitors hilarious? Can you just imagine how cool I am at the local watering -hole with my esoteric trains of thought?
:gulp:
I dont even bother reading his shit anymore. Gives me a migraine.
LoungeMachine
04-11-2009, 03:03 PM
Great! Elvira posts an 02' op-ed from the WSJ without ever actually challenging his "facts."
Gotta love when Butch refutes his own position for us....
:gulp:
Ooops.
Want to try that one again, E?
thome
04-11-2009, 04:57 PM
That's his schtick.
He covers up the fact his points, if he ever actually has them, are weak and his gibberish is a deflection.
look at me, see how funny and off-the-wall I am? Don't you just wish I was writing my mojo for Rolling Stone? Aren't my "fakks" and non-sequitors hilarious? Can you just imagine how cool I am at the local watering -hole with my esoteric trains of thought?
:gulp:
I dont even bother reading his shit anymore. Gives me a migraine.
Don't worry, your included in the next round.
Wouldn't want you gett'n your panties -all- in'a bunch.
look at me, see how funny and off-the-wall I am? Don't you just wish I was writing my mojo for Rolling Stone? Aren't my "fakks" and non-sequitors hilarious? Can you just imagine how cool I am at the local watering -hole with my esoteric trains of thought?
Stop trying so hard to be one of the boys at your local watering hole Lounge..I realize this confession of yours is quite revealing and I appreciate your honesty about your issues at your pub of choice...I would suggest you, also buy a round once in awhile, perhaps people will include you again.... if you stop being such a booze mooch.
Blaze
04-11-2009, 05:34 PM
el ceepo talks! "Pro"found
Wut he saiid? !
He sead he so dated that he be a who dat say they gonna beat dem saints who dat.....
Chick a la chick a dochick a dodo dada....
Peaches made the pie.
thome
04-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Perhaps you could give me your opinion of how we can deal with these cock sukkers.....
Or are you homos just gonna talk about the poor captain....
YouTube - Spanish Terrorist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8Y4KwVzJs)
Perhaps we could have some motorcycles waiting for them, tharRRR Pirates.. on shore...hmmmm?
kwame k
04-11-2009, 09:24 PM
MOMBASA, Kenya – Nineteen American sailors who escaped a pirate hijacking off the Horn of Africa reached safe harbor on Saturday, exhilarated by freedom but mourning the absence of the captain they hailed for sacrificing his freedom to save them.
With a throng of reporters shouting questions from shore, the crew of the Maersk Alabama described an ordeal that began with Somali pirates hauling themselves onto the deck from a small boat bobbing on the surface of the Indian Ocean far below.
"They came from the stern of the ship and came on with hooks and ropes and were firing in the air when they got on board," said ATM Reza, a crew member who said he was the first to see the pirates board Wednesday.
As the pirates shot in the air, Capt. Richard Phillips, 53, of Underhill, Vermont, told his crew to lock themselves in a cabin and surrendered himself to safeguard his men, crew members said. Phillips was still held hostage in an enclosed lifeboat Saturday by four pirates being closely watched by U.S. warships in an increasingly tense standoff. A Pentagon spokesman said negotiations were ongoing.
"He saved our lives!" second mate Ken Quinn, of Bradenton, Florida, declared from the ship as it docked in the resort and port city of Mombasa. "He's a hero."
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090412/ap_on_re_af/piracy;_ylt=AjiaBTGfiyWI9tCZXPhfsVoGw_IE;_ylu=X3oD MTI5MWV1dm5pBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNDEyL3BpcmFjeQRjcG 9zAzEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawN1c3No aXByZWFjaGU-)
kwame k
04-11-2009, 09:26 PM
"He saved our lives!" second mate Ken Quinn, of Bradenton, Florida, declared from the ship as it docked in the resort and port city of Mombasa. "He's a hero."
I hope this Capitan makes it through this OK. First he tries to escape and now come to find out he gave himself up for his crew. Fucking Old School hero right there.
Nickdfresh
04-11-2009, 11:32 PM
But you wish you could ban/censor me.
If I really wanted too, I'd of done it already...
It ain't about me, it's about the forum, Rio boy...
:lol: Next you'll ask what constitutes a pwn pic. Suffice it to say that you have posted quite a few in just recent times, Ari.
Nice links you've provided, Squealer...
Igosplut
04-12-2009, 07:37 AM
I hope this Capitan makes it through this OK. First he tries to escape and now come to find out he gave himself up for his crew. Fucking Old School hero right there.
That is the first job of any captain, To insure the safety of his crew. But yea I agree, easier said than done.
Why they don't let these ships carry weapons for protection is beyond me. Whats it gonna take? A slaughter most likely....
Nickdfresh
04-12-2009, 01:59 PM
Welp. He's been re-freed...
U.S. Navy rescues captain held by pirates
Three of the Somali captors were killed and one was in custody
BREAKING NEWS
The Associated Press
updated 1:52 p.m. ET, Sun., April 12, 2009
MOMBASA, Kenya - The U.S. Navy has rescued the American sea captain held by Somali pirates.
A senior U.S. intelligence official said hostage Richard Phillips was not hurt in what appeared to be a swift firefight off the Somali coast on Sunday. Phillips was safely transported to a Navy warship nearby.
The official said three pirates were killed and one was injured.
The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
U.S. warships and helicopters had been stalking the lifeboat holding the captain and his captors as a Somali official and others reported earlier that negotiations for his release had broken down....
The Rest of the Story. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013//)
I8OU812
04-12-2009, 02:29 PM
As liberal as I am with all things considered, I wish we'd set examples and turn the Western part of the Indian Ocean blood red.
The practical side says that we shouldn't; that we're not a first-strike nation (they struck commercial, not the Navy)
The vet in me says fuck 'em.
Nickdfresh
04-12-2009, 02:30 PM
Yeah, I'm a "liberal" too, and I'd like to see them sick the Navy SEALS on some of the other pirate skiffs that came out to support their bandit prick friends and liberate the hostages...
Blaze
04-12-2009, 02:42 PM
best news of the morning! Look forward to hearing the details.
It's too bad that pollution and commercial over-fishing (not to mention lack of a stable government) have left these Somalis without any way to earn an honest living, but that's no excuse to go violent. They should just steal from stupid people like the Nigerians do.
Nickdfresh
04-12-2009, 03:11 PM
The Somali "men with guns" aren't going to get a lot so sympathy from me for any of the above. They've been stealing from, and fucking over, their fellow people for decades now on behalf of Warlords. Now, there's not much left to steal in the corpse-state of Somalia, so they've decided to go after shipping instead of trying to build a sustainable society...
The Somalis I have sympathy for are the peons that starve and get fucked over by those owning an AK...
Blaze
04-12-2009, 03:12 PM
Ford, if that wasn't so sick it'd be funny.
:biggrin:
sadaist
04-12-2009, 08:59 PM
Fucking A HUGE props to the US Navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Roth Army sends you a hearty salute brothers & sisters. Job well fucking done!
Igosplut
04-12-2009, 09:04 PM
Best possible outcome. Good for him. Hopefully they don't fuck with US shipping again....
Nitro Express
04-12-2009, 09:56 PM
It's not that easy. A lot of foreign and even most domestic U.S. ports will not allow a ship to dock if it is commercial and armed. It's like traveling by land or air in that you have to go through customs and even on the seas time is money and having to claim firepower will only slow them down.
In the old days ships would have to lock the weapons in lockers when they came into port or sometimes the Port Authority would lock the weapons up and then return them when the ship left port. The true modern story here is human life is expendable and sailors getting killed by pirates is just the cost of doing busines because weapons do slow things up and make them more costly.
Piracy will increase due to the economic circumstances and if it gets out of hand, things will really slow down. Not to mention weapons probably will be stashed on ships anyways. People are going to protect themselves and if nobody wants to work on a ship because it's dangerouse then say good bye world economy.
Nickdfresh
04-12-2009, 10:07 PM
An interesting article on how this all started...
Somali pirates far removed from Hollywood - Somalia- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30169545/)
Va Beach VH Fan
04-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Fucking A HUGE props to the US Navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Roth Army sends you a hearty salute brothers & sisters. Job well fucking done!
Out-fucking-standing shipmates !!!!!
twonabomber
04-12-2009, 11:36 PM
It's too bad that ________ and ________ (not to mention ________) have left these ______ without any way to earn an honest living, but that's no excuse to go violent.
add in your favorite words to fit your local situation...
hideyoursheep
04-13-2009, 12:35 AM
Maybe it's that they're combating piracy the wrong way?
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ODShowtime
04-13-2009, 07:00 AM
It's pleasing to see some pirates got their brain cavities emptied. Yo ho ho it's a pirates death for them. Fuck 'em.
Panamark
04-13-2009, 07:06 AM
As long as somebody gave the Customary Parrot a new home ! :(
Nickdfresh
04-13-2009, 08:47 AM
I wonder if footage of the shootings exists?
Blaze
04-13-2009, 08:49 AM
I wonder if footage of the shootings exists?
I'd like to see it.
ZahZoo
04-13-2009, 09:40 AM
Firefight..? Reports are the Navy Seal snipers took out all 3 pirates with a few shots. The life boat was 25/30 yards off the Bainbridge being towed out of rough seas.
Dumbass pirates let the US warship tie off and move them to calmer seas. At that point it was just a matter of waiting for darkness and shooting fish in a barrel.
Panamark
04-13-2009, 09:55 AM
Just saw some footage on OZ TV, no brain splatterage, but the happy
saved captain.....
add in your favorite words to fit your local situation...
Sad but true :(
Maybe it's time to send the Navy Seals into AIG & Goldman Sachs so they can take out the REAL "pirates" who are robbing this country blind?
Seshmeister
04-13-2009, 05:18 PM
Fucking A HUGE props to the US Navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Roth Army sends you a hearty salute brothers & sisters. Job well fucking done!
With a budget of $149.3 billion you would kind of hope they might possibly be able to cope with three guys with a couple of AK47s.
Nickdfresh
04-13-2009, 08:22 PM
True. But it's interesting that most of the time, things like that end in the hostages betting nicked...just a few days prior, a French hostage was killed in a shootout between French Naval Commandos and Somali pirates, his family was saved though...
Va Beach VH Fan
04-13-2009, 11:36 PM
Firefight..? Reports are the Navy Seal snipers took out all 3 pirates with a few shots. The life boat was 25/30 yards off the Bainbridge being towed out of rough seas.
Dumbass pirates let the US warship tie off and move them to calmer seas. At that point it was just a matter of waiting for darkness and shooting fish in a barrel.
A friend of mine read the after action report today....
3 snipers, 3 shots.....
Nickdfresh
04-14-2009, 03:31 AM
They weren't that far away...
Blaze
04-14-2009, 06:22 AM
Could someone explain to me why the pirates of Somalia are not classified as terrorist?
Especially in todays economic threats. After all they have already tried to get weapons of mass destruction ( I guess tanks could be used as WoMD) Sure would have made them a bigger issue to deal with. And they have threatened to "get even" with the States> the reason to classify them as terrorist are as many as many other organizations classified as terrorist.
If the government of Somalia is involve, shouldn't it be classified as an axis of evil( if that was ever or still is a classification.
Seshmeister
04-14-2009, 06:25 AM
True. But it's interesting that most of the time, things like that end in the hostages betting nicked...just a few days prior, a French hostage was killed in a shootout between French Naval Commandos and Somali pirates, his family was saved though...
Yeah but it's much more difficult to make those shots whilst you are fleeing.
Andy Taylor
04-14-2009, 08:07 AM
You're all about silly stereotypes, even if you meant that as a "joke."
sadaist
04-14-2009, 08:16 AM
With a budget of $149.3 billion you would kind of hope they might possibly be able to cope with three guys with a couple of AK47s.
I never doubt their ability, I doubt their authorization. I'm sure there have been plenty of times our military has been chomping at the bits to "take care" of a situation, yet the go ahead never comes.
sadaist
04-14-2009, 08:22 AM
And they have threatened to "get even" with the States
I found that funny. We responded to them and they are now mad saying they will retaliate against us. Um, weren't we just responding to their initial act? Basically, they started it and are mad we actually did something in response yet act like we did it unprovoked. Dumb asses. I almost hope they try to retaliate against some of our ships over there...as long as our guys are allowed to waste 'em when they do.
sadaist
04-14-2009, 08:23 AM
Maybe it's time to send the Navy Seals .... so they can take out the REAL "pirates" who are robbing this country blind?
Does that include Obama & Pelosi?
Nickdfresh
04-14-2009, 08:31 AM
I never doubt their ability, I doubt their authorization. I'm sure there have been plenty of times our military has been chomping at the bits to "take care" of a situation, yet the go ahead never comes.
Um, authorization for what? Were they ready to summarily execute the board of directors at Lehman Bros. or something?
Seshmeister
04-14-2009, 08:58 AM
You're all about silly stereotypes, even if you meant that as a "joke."
http://sharepointrm.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/sleeping-audience-2.jpg
Nickdfresh
04-14-2009, 09:14 AM
You're all about silly stereotypes, even if you meant that as a "joke."
Gee Andy, is this our stalking fight troll persona again?
Pennypacker
04-14-2009, 11:24 AM
Undeterred by American and French hostage rescues that killed five bandits, Somali pirates brazenly hijacked four more ships in the Gulf of Aden, the waterway at the centre of the world's fight against piracy.
Pirates have vowed to retaliate for deaths of their colleagues-and the top U.S. military officer said Tuesday he takes those comments seriously. But Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told ABC's "Good Morning America" that "we're very well prepared to deal with anything like that."
Still, despite Mullen's confident statement and President Barack Obama's warning Monday, pirates captured two more nautical trophies Tuesday to match the two ships they seized a day or two earlier.
NATO spokeswoman Shona Lowe said the MV Sea Horse, a Lebanese-owned cargo ship, was attacked and captured Tuesday by pirates in three or four speedboats. She had no further information.
That hijacking came only hours after the Greek-managed MV Irene was seized in a rare overnight attack by pirates.
In addition, Somali pirates also hijacked two Egyptian fishing boats in the Gulf of Aden off Somalia's northern coast, which maritime officials said had a total of 36 crew. It was not exactly clear if those ships were hijacked Monday or Sunday.
The Gulf of Aden, which links the Suez Canal and the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean, is one of the world's busiest and most vital shipping lanes, crossed by over 20,000 ships each year.
A flotilla of warships from nearly a dozen countries has patrolled the Gulf of Aden and nearby Indian Ocean waters for months. They have halted many attacks on ships this year, but say the area is so vast they can't stop all hijackings.
Pirate attacks this year has risen to 78, with 19 of those ships hijacked and 17 vessels with more than 300 crew still in pirates' hands. Each boat carries the potential of a million-dollar ransom.
The Irene was sailing from the Middle East to South Asia, said Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting centre in Kuala Lumpur. The ship is flagged in the Caribbean country of St. Vincent and the Grenadines.
Lt. Nathan Christensen, spokesman for the Bahrain-based U.S. 5th Fleet, said the Irene carried 23 Filipino crew, while Choong reported it had 21. There was no immediate way to reconcile the figures.
A maritime security contractor, speaking on condition of anonymity because it is a sensitive security issue, said the Irene put out a distress signal "to say they had a suspicious vessel approaching. That rapidly turned into an attack and then a hijacking."
"They tried to call in support on the emergency channels, but they never got any response," the contractor said.
The latest seizures come after U.S. navy SEAL snipers rescued American ship captain Richard Phillips on Sunday by killing three young pirates who held him captive in a drifting lifeboat for five days. A fourth pirate surrendered after seeking medical attention for a wound he received in trying to take over Phillips' vessel, the Maersk Alabama.
The French navy late Monday handed over the bodies of two Somali pirates killed in a hostage rescue operation last week to authorities in Somali's semiautonomous northern region of Puntland and locals buried the bodies.
sadaist
04-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Um, authorization for what? Were they ready to summarily execute the board of directors at Lehman Bros. or something?
Yeah Nick, that's what I meant.:rolleyes: Before just automatically stirring up shit with particular posters just because you "normally" disagree with them, try double checking the context of the responses. Anyways, Barack has taken it upon himself to go into companies and get rid of the top guy like he did at GM.
Fucking A HUGE props to the US Navy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Roth Army sends you a hearty salute brothers & sisters. Job well fucking done!
With a budget of $149.3 billion you would kind of hope they might possibly be able to cope with three guys with a couple of AK47s.
I never doubt their ability, I doubt their authorization. I'm sure there have been plenty of times our military has been chomping at the bits to "take care" of a situation, yet the go ahead never comes.
Um, authorization for what? Were they ready to summarily execute the board of directors at Lehman Bros. or something?
Nah, the predatory capitalists themselves let Lehman Brothers die from their own self-inflicted wounds. But I would applaud the Navy Seals taking out the Goldman Sachs office or AIG. Preferably both.
Then I'd send 'em up to Kennebunkport........ (use your imagination :D )
Guitar Shark
04-14-2009, 05:25 PM
A friend of mine read the after action report today....
3 snipers, 3 shots.....
The thing I find most impressive is that all three snipers succeeded in doing this despite being on rolling seas.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/14/xin_5920406141120000159014.jpg
BEIJING, April 14 (Xinhuanet) -- Thousands of dolphins blocked the suspected Somali pirate ships when they were trying to attack Chinese merchant ships passing the Gulf of Aden, the China Radio International reported on Monday.
The Chinese merchant ships escorted by a China's fleet sailed on the Gulf of Aden when they met some suspected pirate ships. Thousands of dolphins suddenly leaped out of water between pirates and merchants when the pirate ships headed for the China's.
The suspected pirates ships stopped and then turned away. The pirates could only lament their littleness before the vast number of dolphins. The spectacular scene continued for a while.
China initiated its three-ship escort task force on Dec. 26 last year after the United Nations Security Council called on countries to patrol gulf and waters off Somalia, one of the world's busiest marine routes, where surging piracy endangered intercontinental shipping.
China's first fleet has escorted 206 vessels, including 29 foreign merchant vessels, and successfully rescued three foreign merchant ships from pirate attacks.
About 20 percent of Chinese merchant ships passing through the waters off Somalia were attacked by pirates from January to November in 2008, before the task force was deployed.
A total of seven ships, either owned by China or carrying Chinese cargo and crew, were hijacked.
Tianyu No. 8, a Chinese fishing vessel with 16 Chinese and eight foreign sailors aboard, was captured by Somali pirates on Nov. 14 and released in early February.
The second fleet of Chinese escort ships arrived at the Gulf of Aden on Monday to replace the first fleet.
(Xinhua and Cri contributed to the story)
Link (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-04/14/content_11184581_1.htm)
....so now the dolphins are getting involved? Can the mice be far behind. And does this mean the Vogon constructor fleet is on the way? :eek:
Guitar Shark
04-14-2009, 05:36 PM
The pirates could only lament their littleness before the vast number of dolphins.
:lol:
The thing I find most impressive is that all three snipers succeeded in doing this despite being on rolling seas.
Yeah really...I would think even somewhat calm water is a bit of a challenge.
swage33
04-14-2009, 07:58 PM
Clinton's Black Hawk History
On Somalia, the ex-president is as mendacious as ever
The Wall Street Journal
August 6, 2002 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/728352/posts)
We wish Bill Clinton a quiet retirement, if only he'd return the favor. But when the former President distorts history for the sake of political advantage, someone has to clean up afterward.
Responding to Bush Administration suggestions that some of today's corporate scandals first got out of hand under his watch, Mr. Clinton recently shot back: "These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."
We can understand Mr. Clinton wanting to defend himself, but as usual he can't get his own facts straight. His introduction of Somalia here is one of those breathtakingly brazen attempts to dodge responsibility for which Mr. Clinton is justly famous. Here's the real history:
President Bush the Elder sent U.S. forces into Somalia in December 1992 to aid the United Nations in relieving a massive famine. In May of 1993, four months into his term, President Clinton declared that mission accomplished and pulled out most of the U.S. forces. In a speech on the South Lawn to associate himself with the effort, he extolled the decision to intervene: "If all of you who served had not gone, it is absolutely certain that tens of thousands would have died by now." It was a "successful mission," he said, and "proved yet again that American leadership can help to mobilize international action ..."
But back in Somalia, with no U.S. deterrent, Somalia's warlords began fighting again. After a series of bloody attacks on U.N. peacekeepers, Mr. Clinton launched a new mission: In August 1993, he sent in a force of Rangers and Special Forces units to capture the brutal warlord Mohammad Farrah Aidid and restore order.
That force asked for heavy armor -- in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles -- as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.
Many military experts believe that if the U.S. forces had had armor, fewer would have died. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin resigned two months after Somalia, having acknowledged that his decision on the armor had been an error. A 1994 Senate Armed Services Committee investigation reached the same conclusion. But perhaps the most poignant statement came from retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Joyce, father of Sergeant Casey Joyce, a Ranger killed in Mogadishu: "Had there been armor ... I contend that my son would probably be alive today ..."
Mr. Clinton's responsibility in Somalia doesn't stop there. Despite the mistakes that October day, Aidid had been struck a blow. The U.S. military, with 18 dead, wanted nothing more than to finish what it had started. Mr. Clinton instead aborted the mission. The U.S. released the criminals it had captured that same day at such great cost, and the U.N., lacking U.S. support, was powerless to keep order. Somalia remains a lawless, impoverished nation. Worse, the terrorists of al Qaeda interpreted the U.S. retreat from Somalia as a sign of American weakness that may have convinced them we could be induced to retreat from the Middle East if they took their attacks to the U.S. homeland.
Those are the facts. The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events had nothing to do with him. They were Mr. Clinton's responsibility, and his alone.
:elvis:
Late to this thread...reading it through from front to back but came upon your post and had to give props....Amen, Dog.....Amen!
swage33
04-14-2009, 08:13 PM
Could someone explain to me why the pirates of Somalia are not classified as terrorist?
Especially in todays economic threats. After all they have already tried to get weapons of mass destruction ( I guess tanks could be used as WoMD) Sure would have made them a bigger issue to deal with. And they have threatened to "get even" with the States> the reason to classify them as terrorist are as many as many other organizations classified as terrorist.
If the government of Somalia is involve, shouldn't it be classified as an axis of evil( if that was ever or still is a classification.
It could be that some of them are Christian and therefore not terrorists. Thats right....this just in...only muslims are terrorists. Tell your neighbors, read your papers, watch the nightly news. Truth is flowing to you, Blaze.
P.S.
Stop being a douche!
swage33
04-14-2009, 08:16 PM
Nah, the predatory capitalists themselves let Lehman Brothers die from their own self-inflicted wounds. But I would applaud the Navy Seals taking out the Goldman Sachs office or AIG. Preferably both.
Then I'd send 'em up to Kennebunkport........ (use your imagination :D )
I did use my imagination........why do you want to suck off the Navy Seals? They like girls....not you.
swage33
04-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Word is that the US has the locations for the land bases of the Pirates. Do you think Obama will bomb Pittsburgh?
Now Goddamnit! That's fucking funny!
sadaist
04-14-2009, 08:31 PM
The thing I find most impressive is that all three snipers succeeded in doing this despite being on rolling seas.
Not to mention in the dark and through small windows since the guys were inside the covered boat. And they got them all at the exact same time. That US Captain was sitting there one second with three young Somali men yelling at him & pointing guns at him, then the next second they were all dead on the ground. He was probably thinking WTF?!
Nickdfresh
04-14-2009, 08:36 PM
Yeah Nick, that's what I meant.:rolleyes: Before just automatically stirring up shit with particular posters just because you "normally" disagree with them, try double checking the context of the responses. Anyways, Barack has taken it upon himself to go into companies and get rid of the top guy like he did at GM.
What a shame....
BTW, I don't think I was the one stirring up shit...
It could be that some of them are Christian and therefore not terrorists. Thats right....this just in...only muslims are terrorists.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_C1EPAkx1iC8/R4w6inAqd_I/AAAAAAAADlU/VqL_1j6g4D8/s400/Mcveighmugshot.jpg
http://clarenceboddicker.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/davidkoresh.jpg
http://www.operationrescuetheft.com/images/randallterry-0102.jpg
http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphPic3_edited.jpg
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/george-w-bush.jpg
P.S.
Stop being a douche!
Take your own advice sisterfucker.
swage33
04-14-2009, 09:04 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_C1EPAkx1iC8/R4w6inAqd_I/AAAAAAAADlU/VqL_1j6g4D8/s400/Mcveighmugshot.jpg
http://clarenceboddicker.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/davidkoresh.jpg
http://www.operationrescuetheft.com/images/randallterry-0102.jpg
http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphPic3_edited.jpg
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/george-w-bush.jpg
Take your own advice sisterfucker.
Thank you for proving my point, Hyundai. Really, you make this too easy. BTW...sorry your sister can't walk.
swage33
04-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Thank you for proving my point, Hyundai. Really, you make this too easy. BTW...sorry your sister can't walk.
I would like to take the liberty to offer Ford's response to my post. I am making this effort because Ford is totally devoid of wit or character. Deep in my heart, I like the imbecile so, here goes....Ford's witty comeback:
No......you are!
kwame k
04-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Not to mention in the dark and through small windows since the guys were inside the covered boat. And they got them all at the exact same time. That US Captain was sitting there one second with three young Somali men yelling at him & pointing guns at him, then the next second they were all dead on the ground. He was probably thinking WTF?!
If the reports are correct and it went down that way.......tough shots. Figuring in the confined space, that was damn near point blank range if his captors decided to kill him and we took 3 of those guys out. Impressive.
Socioeconomic debates aside.
I can rationalize people stealing food if that's their only true means of survival but there's a line you cross when you're willing to kill or harm people to make money/survival. In extreme circumstances, we'd all do what we have to, to survive but come on.......hijacking a fucking boat, fully armed and willing to kill to take what didn't belong to you to begin with..........having a hard time having empathy for these guys.
Blaze
04-15-2009, 05:31 AM
It could be that some of them are Christian and therefore not terrorists. Thats right....this just in...only muslims are terrorists. Tell your neighbors, read your papers, watch the nightly news. Truth is flowing to you, Blaze.
P.S.
Stop being a douche!
Sweet Dellwood,
I told you. I will ALWAYS be able to roast myself better than you.
I was on the radar long before any Muslim hysteria.
Long before the Shaw's wife lost her gown funding.
Long before, the fed head lost his life while Mr. Jagger sang of the devil's delight.
Now what was you saying?
You have brown eyes and are able to tan?
Oh.... That is OK......
I am not 4th horse, nor the red heifer. If you have brown and not blue eye, I can be.
If you have baggable pigment in your skin, I can be.
However, if you have blue eyes, and a petri dish of pigment. I cannot be.
unfortunantly or fortunatly however you see.
Wow, I should print that.
ZahZoo
04-15-2009, 09:49 AM
Not to mention in the dark and through small windows since the guys were inside the covered boat. And they got them all at the exact same time. That US Captain was sitting there one second with three young Somali men yelling at him & pointing guns at him, then the next second they were all dead on the ground. He was probably thinking WTF?!
Well considering that they were fully equipt with night vision and infra-red heat sensing equipment on the US ship. They could easily tell who was who and sense if someone farted on the lifeboat.
Still impressive to take out 3 inside a covered boat in the open seas...
sadaist
04-15-2009, 10:22 AM
Well considering that they were fully equipt with night vision and infra-red heat sensing equipment on the US ship. They could easily tell who was who and sense if someone farted on the lifeboat.
Still impressive to take out 3 inside a covered boat in the open seas...
Just another example of why our military requires the best equipment, best training, and best people. Although we hope to never use any of it, when we do, any operation should go down as smoothly as this one did.
swage33
04-15-2009, 09:28 PM
Sweet Dellwood,
I told you. I will ALWAYS be able to roast myself better than you.
I was on the radar long before any Muslim hysteria.
Long before the Shaw's wife lost her gown funding.
Long before, the fed head lost his life while Mr. Jagger sang of the devil's delight.
Now what was you saying?
You have brown eyes and are able to tan?
Oh.... That is OK......
I am not 4th horse, nor the red heifer. If you have brown and not blue eye, I can be.
If you have baggable pigment in your skin, I can be.
However, if you have blue eyes, and a petri dish of pigment. I cannot be.
unfortunantly or fortunatly however you see.
Wow, I should print that.
HEY! Who is Dellwood? Are you arguing with another man named Dellwood? How could you? I thought we had something. As for the rest of your post....Again, I have to ask you if that is some sort of Arab code? Are you activating sleeper cells with your posts? If you're not the 4th horse, who is? Who is the red heifer?
Really, Blaze...I am willing to entertain that this may be some utterance of brilliance but I am failing to see it. I'm pretty sure it's code and I am alerting the CIA.
not really, I love you too much.
Andy Taylor
04-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Really, Blaze...I am willing to entertain that this may be some utterance of brilliance but I am failing to see it.
Rest assured, it's nothing of the kind even if it's meant to look that way. Just the ramblings of one who has been touched in the head.
Nickdfresh
04-15-2009, 09:35 PM
When trolls reach around... :)
swage33
04-15-2009, 09:38 PM
When trolls reach around... :)
What?
Nickdfresh
04-15-2009, 09:55 PM
Andy will give you instructions...:)
Nickdfresh
04-16-2009, 08:48 AM
I dunno who "Fiat" is, I thought that was an Italian car company...
But I will say that the happy troll fest, and threadjacking, in here is over...
swage33
04-16-2009, 07:59 PM
I dunno who "Fiat" is, I thought that was an Italian car company...
But I will say that the happy troll fest, and threadjacking, in here is over...
Sorry if I offend...would expect some pity seeing as I am a slacked jaw yokel who fucks my sister. How's the weather in Macon? still wearing the flannel hoods or have you broke out the linen ones? I am an American...my voice matters as much as yours....its driving you crazy!
Seshmeister
04-16-2009, 08:46 PM
The thing about your voice is that we do have a democratic way to judge its merit based on how useful, interesting and informative it has been to other users in the past. In this way when you make a post people can quickly get a handle on how much weight to give your post compared to someone else.
It's shown on the left under your name and is called Rep Power.
Cheers!
:gulp:
swage33
04-16-2009, 09:05 PM
The thing about your voice is that we do have a democratic way to judge its merit based on how useful, interesting and informative it has been to other users in the past. In this way when you make a post people can quickly get a handle on how much weight to give your post compared to someone else.
It's shown on the left under your name and is called Rep Power.
Cheers!
:gulp:
I think I know how to increase my "rep power". I'm pretty sure that if I toe the popular line in here I will surpass even the great seshmeister. Sorry, dude...I go my own way, rep be damned.
Seshmeister
04-16-2009, 09:23 PM
Well there are also the thanks and groans buttons
swage33
04-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Well there are also the thanks and groans buttons
You gotta have the best avatar on here, dude. Fucking hilarious.
scamper
04-19-2009, 08:53 AM
To a degree you are right...but....
These are poor people doing what they can to get money.
They are not killing people for sport then leaving.
Look at some of the weapons they are using.
http://frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/in-mcf-2.jpg
The problem is you need to destroy who ever is running the pirates...because for every pirate you kill...another will take his place.
You need to eliminate the head...
I can't believe someone pulled out the victim for these fucks.....
I can't believe someone pulled out the victim for these fucks.....
You missed the point.
These guys are not the head...kill them all you want.
They will be replaced quickly with other starving people.
Kill the head...kill the beast...
hideyoursheep
04-19-2009, 06:15 PM
I think I know how to increase my "rep power". I'm pretty sure that if I toe the popular line in here I will surpass even the great seshmeister. Sorry, dude...I go my own way, rep be damned.
That's very commendable....even though I think you're wrong alot of times, still very honorable.
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