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kwame k
04-24-2009, 07:09 PM
In March 2008, Kwame Kilpatrick was charged with eight felonies, including perjury and obstruction of justice. In August, he violated his bail agreement and was thrown in jail. His actions were deplorable for anybody, but Kilpatrick was no Average Joe--he was the mayor of Detroit.

Unfortunately for the Motor City, Kilpatrick, 38, is just one ripple in the area's sea of crime. Detroit is the worst offender on our list of America's most dangerous cities, thanks to a staggering rate of 1,220 violent crimes committed per 100,000 people.

"Detroit has, historically, been one of the more violent cities in the U.S.," says Megan Wolfram, an analyst at iJet Intelligent Risk Systems, a Maryland-based risk-assessment firm. "They have a number of local crime syndicates there--a number of small gangs who tend to compete over territory."

Detroit was followed closely on the list by the greater Memphis, Tenn., and Miami, Fla., metropolitan areas. Those three were the only large cities in America with more than 950 violent crimes committed per 100,000 people.

Behind the Numbers

To determine our list, we used violent crime statistics from the FBI's latest uniform crime report, issued in 2008. The violent crime category is composed of four offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. We evaluated U.S. metropolitan statistical areas--geographic entities defined by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget for use by federal agencies in collecting, tabulating and publishing federal statistics--with more than 500,000 residents.

Though nationwide crime was down 3.5% year over year in the first six months of 2008, the cities atop our list illustrate a disturbing trend: All 10 of the most dangerous cities were among those identified by the Department of Justice as transit points for Mexican drug cartels.

Run by crime lords like Joaquin Guzman Lorea, these gangs--and their violent turf wars--are spreading into the American Southwest and beyond. Places like Stockton, Calif., nearly 500 miles from Tijuana, have seen an uptick in related violent crime.

"Stockton is a major transit point along the I-5 corridor on the way to Seattle and Vancouver," says Wolfram. "A lot of it is similar to crime happening in the Southwest. For the most part, it's drug gang on drug gang."

Motown Blues

The situation in Mexico has escalated in recent years, but Detroit has been dealing with the same problems for decades. An industrial boomtown during the first half of the 20th century, the population of Detroit proper swelled from 285,000 in 1900 to 990,000 in 1920, reaching a peak of 1.8 million in 1950.

Only half that number still lives within city limits. Starting in the 1960s, Detroit began a precipitous decline. Most scholars blame rapid suburbanization, outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, and federal programs they say exacerbated the situation by creating a culture of joblessness and dependency. Residents fled to the suburbs and to other regions of the country entirely, leaving behind a landscape littered with abandoned buildings.

"Factories that once provided tens of thousands of jobs now stand as hollow shells, windows broken, mute testimony to a lost industrial past," wrote Thomas J. Sugrue in his book The Origins of the Urban Crisis. "Whole sections of the city are eerily apocalyptic."

Detroit isn't the only city on the list that's suffering from abandonment issues.

In Las Vegas, Nev., for example, the housing boom created loads of excess inventory. When the market tanked, homeowners suddenly found themselves with properties worth far less than the mortgages they'd taken out. In the worst cases, banks foreclosed, leaving people without homes--and with more debt than they'd had to begin with. As a result, Sin City is even emptier than Detroit.

"Detroit has trouble showing improvement in its crime rate because dedicated, desperately needed and appropriate resources are not invested in public safety. Painfully, it is not a priority," says Wayne County Prosecuting Attorney Kym L. Worthy. "I wish that those with the resources would view domestic terrorism like they do terrorism across the water. It used to be that we were keeping our head above water and treading quickly. Now we are drowning, and no one seems to really care. All they tell me to do is cut some more."

Few Signs of Improvement

Making matters more difficult, as municipal budgets shrink during this recession, crime-fighting funds are often among the first casualties.

"There's less public spending during downturns," says Wolfram. "Police departments and incarcerations systems are tough to fund."

The news has been bad for decades, but there may yet be hope for Detroit. The city's new mayor, Kenneth V. Cockrel Jr., assumed office on Sept. 19, 2009--and hasn't committed a single felony.

Top 5 Most Dangerous Cities:

No. 1 Detroit, Mich.

(Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, Mich., metropolitan statistical area)

Population: 1,951,186

Violent Crimes per 100,000: 1,220

No. 2 Memphis, Tenn.

(Memphis, Tenn.-Miss.-Ark. metropolitan statistical area)

Population: 1,295,670

Violent Crimes per 100,000: 1,218

No. 3. Miami, Fla.

(Miami-Miami Beach-Kendall, Fla. metropolitan statistical area)

Population: 2,401,971

Violent Crimes per 100,000: 988

No. 4 Las Vegas, Nev.

(Las Vegas-Paradise, Nev., metropolitan statistical area)

Population: 1,834,533

Violent Crimes per 100,000: 887

No. 5 Stockton, Calif.

(Stockton, Calif., metropolitan statistical area)

Population: 684,406

Violent Crimes per 100,000: 885

Link (http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/106978/America's-Most-Dangerous-Cities)

kwame k
04-24-2009, 07:11 PM
I guess at least we're number one in something. My city in ruin.

Kristy
04-26-2009, 02:41 PM
I wonder where Cleveland ranked in this survey. I was a little surprised it didn't make the top ten. Or maybe I'm confusing violence with shithole in which case Cleveland would definitely be in the top 5 - right next to Dayton.

sadaist
04-26-2009, 03:06 PM
Las Vegas should be #1. Those fucking slot machines rob me blind every time I go there. Joking aside, if you have ever been to Vegas and strayed away from the huge resorts, you can see what a shit hole the place is.

Nickdfresh
04-26-2009, 03:33 PM
I wonder where Cleveland ranked in this survey. I was a little surprised it didn't make the top ten. Or maybe I'm confusing violence with shithole in which case Cleveland would definitely be in the top 5 - right next to Dayton.

Wooooow! was your ex-boyfriend from Ohio or something? :)

Kristy
04-26-2009, 03:42 PM
No, but let's just say I used to travel to Cleveland a lot. Okay, on the plus side Cleveland does have great amusement park and some of the best diverse bars I've ever been in but the place is a crumbling shithole. And the stench from Lake Erie doesn't help matters much.

Nickdfresh
04-26-2009, 03:49 PM
Lake Erie really doesn't smell, with the possible exceptions of summer algae boons and fish kills. You were probably taking a whiff of the beautiful, scenic factories and contaminated soils along the shore. Lake Erie is actually fairly clean unless idiots at the sewage treatment departments make illegal discharges...

Kristy
04-26-2009, 03:53 PM
Lake Erie really doesn't smell...


Have you ever been to Cleveland? Erie stench is pretty much all year round.

Nickdfresh
04-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Have you ever been to Cleveland? Erie stench is pretty much all year round.


A few times, but not many considering it's only three hours away. I did walk the lake front on the way to the Hall. But I live only about six miles from the shore south of Buffalo and rarely ever notice anything even at the beach. Parts of (southern) Buffalo do have a very, unpleasant sulphur odor and much of the lake front is contaminated and blocked off by the abomination of the old Bethlehem Steel mill, but the actual water is pretty clean now with the leaving of most industries and the absence of phosphates from laundry detergents...

They even begun to find fish in what was once notoriously one of the most polluted rivers on the planet, The Buffalo River. :)

Kristy
04-26-2009, 04:02 PM
You're three hours away from Cleveland? My condolences.

Nickdfresh
04-26-2009, 04:16 PM
You're three hours away from Cleveland? My condolences.

Only been there twice, and as Mephistopheles says: Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed...In one self place, but where we {the damned} are is hell, And where hell is must we ever be.

:)

Douglas T.
04-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Las Vegas should be #1. Those fucking slot machines rob me blind every time I go there. Joking aside, if you have ever been to Vegas and strayed away from the huge resorts, you can see what a shit hole the place is.


The neighborhoods ain't to bad in most places! If you are a big fan of green grass outside your house you might not like Vegas!
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Douglas T.
04-26-2009, 04:34 PM
Evil ...pure evil!!!
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Douglas T.
04-26-2009, 04:40 PM
The way things are going NYC will be the safest place to live!
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twonabomber
04-26-2009, 05:18 PM
No, but let's just say I used to travel to Cleveland a lot. Okay, on the plus side Cleveland does have great amusement park and some of the best diverse bars I've ever been in but the place is a crumbling shithole. And the stench from Lake Erie doesn't help matters much.

what amusement park? Cedar Point? that's not in Cleveland, and if the lake stunk, you'd smell it there, too, being that Cedar Point is surrounded by the lake on three sides. the river hasn't even burned in thirty years...

the crumbling shithole part is somewhat right though. i guess not enough little thugs and thuglettes have gotten shot, Cleveland wasn't in the top 15. i'm glad i live 45 minutes out of downtown.

Kristy
04-26-2009, 09:24 PM
Ceder Point, that's it. I loved that place.

hideyoursheep
04-26-2009, 09:53 PM
I wonder where Cleveland ranked in this survey. I was a little surprised it didn't make the top ten. Or maybe I'm confusing violence with shithole in which case Cleveland would definitely be in the top 5 - right next to Dayton.


I'm curious-why did you stop with those 2 towns?

I'm more afraid of Youngstown.

Kristy
04-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Had a friend who attended Wooster and on weekends we'd drive to Cleveland or Ceder Point which was tolerable until one time (for some reason) we drove to Dayton. That city just drained the life out of me. By the away, what's the name of the river that flows right outside of Dayton?

hideyoursheep
04-26-2009, 10:24 PM
The Miami.