For The Drummers Out There...

[chefcraig]

This is a collection of fairly interesting clips and info for drummers. First up, a time lapsed video of the set up involved in putting together Terry Bozzio's ridiculous drum set. The clip is narrated by Bozzio, and is available as a bonus track on a DVD called Terry Bozzio Live with Chris Maresh and the Tosca Strings. The clip also includes some brief footage of Bozzio recording a track for Korn's Untitled album.


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Next up, a video of culled from a VH-1 special in the mid-nineties. A Michigan music store owner decided to build the world's largest drum set in 1994, and when he was done asked Chad Smith to play the damned thing. It was so large that it was only assembled once, in a church converted into a concert hall for an evening.


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[LoungeMachine]

You're assuming drummers can scrape their knuckles up off the floor long enough to ask someone what the thread title says.....

:gulp:

[chefcraig]

I've often said that Neil Peart isn't a drummer, and he really isn't a musician. The truth is, the guy is an athlete. For proof of the fellow's versatility, here is the man performing at The Buddy Rich Meorial Concert in 1989.


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[chefcraig]

You're assuming drummers can scrape their knuckles up off the floor long enough to ask someone what the thread title says.....

:gulp:

Yup. Plus the site needed a place to put all of those drummer jokes in, anyway...

[LoungeMachine]

drummer jokes

redundant.

:gulp:

[kwame k]

Thanks Craig! I've been watching Buddy Rich over the last few days and have been contemplating reducing my kit back down to the bare bones. 3 piece with bongos, cowbell and 3 or 4 cymbals.

I do appreciate a massive drum set and played bloated kits my whole life. Terry's kit makes sense because of the different tones/notes he is using and the tonal palette he is trying to create but really 3 or 4 toms, in a rock setting is plenty.

He's a side note on Bozzio's kit.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/kit_v01.jpg

All drums are dw Verticle Low Timber drums - olive ash burl finish - satin chrome lugs - black powdercoat rims - with tb "tunerz" lug locking adapters to prevent detuning & back turning

Drum level (l to r)

glockenspiel
10" snare tuned to D (puresound snares)
13 - 8" x 3" piccolo toms - chromatically tuned from high C to C an octave lower (drums descend in 1/2 step in pitch from upper l down to lower r at a diagonal angle)
12" solid craviotto snare tuned to B (puresound snares)
8" x 3" piccolo tom tuned to Bb
8" x 6" tom tuned to A
4 - 10"x 6" toms G-F-E-D
10" x 8" tuned to C
12" x 6" tuned to B
12" x 8" tuned to A
13" x 9" tuned to G
14" x 10" tuned to F
16" x 12" tuned to E
roland handsonic
All pedals are dw 9000 (bass drum pedals w/nylon strap & tb's special cam modifications) & 9500 (hihat pedals w/chain) series.

Remote pedals are 9000 single post (right side pedal posts are reversed because linkage goes to the right and to allow for the pedals to sit close to each other)

All bds are mounted on pdp cradles that allow the most tone & resonance and adjustment for striking the sweet spot on the head.

Beaters are puresound percussion hard plastic or felt.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/kit_v02.jpg

Lower Level (foot operated instruments)

12" chinese gong or
8" x 3" foot tom tuned to
10" x foot tom tuned to
12" x foot tom tuned to
10" hi hat
vic firth/emil richards jingle stick
paul e. "mooneye" wooded headed tambourine
12" paul e. wooden headed djembe
16" x bd tuned to F (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
left remote china hi hat 16" over 18"
20" x 12" bd tuned to C (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
spoxe hi hat
12" hi hats
20" x 16" main left kick drum (muffled) tuned to Bb (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
pete englehardt metal tambourine shaker or tb special tambourine foot plate jingle device
20" x 16" main right kick drum (muffled) tuned to G (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
24" x 14" bd tuned to A (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
right remote hi hats 16" over 20"
18" x bd tuned to D (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
18" x bd tuned to E (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
20" x 8" bd tuned to B (w/ akg d-112 may mic)
All cymbals sabian radia (tb signature)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/kit_v04.jpg

Upper Level (left to right)

21" ride
16" china below 8"china
18" china below 10"china
14" china w/12"crash stack below 7"china w/6"crash stack
16" china w/14"crash stack below 8"china w/7"crash stack
18" china w/16"crash stack below 10"china w/8"crash stack
20" china w/18"crash stack below 12"china w/10"crash stack
20" china below 12"china
22" china below 14"china
36" chinese gong (behind right w/beater on cym boom)

Lower Level (drum level)

(left to right)

10" hihats
left remote china hi hat 16" over 18"
spoxe hi hat (roto tom castings taken apart and used as hi hat)
12" hi hats
lp tambourine
12" heavy bell under 8" cup chime
11" heavy bell under 7 1/2" cup chime
10" heavy bell under 7" cup chime
9" heavy bell under 6 1/2" cup chime
20" flat ride w/20"china stack, under closed14" flat bottom hi hats, under factory metal , under pete englehardt ribbon crasher
26" B-20 radia gong on dw custom 3 point gong holder (played w/a stick, used as a ride cymbal)
20" crash w/20" novo type china stack
right remote china hi hat 16" over 20"

Either side of snare

(left to right)

6" closed flat bottom mini hihat
7" closed flat bottom mini hihat

Above and Behind:

36" wuhan chinese gong
one octave tuned set of wuhan chinese bossed gongs (not shown)

All hardware is made by dw, including:

pdp rack
cymbal stands and 4" stackers
rack clamps
tom holders
throne
piccolo tom holders
All heads are tb signature 1-ply mylar clear by attack (snare batter heads are coated- 12" snare has white dot on top or bottom)


Mic's (not shown)

Normally i use akg 414, c-264, c-12, solidtube or c-4000 mics ambiently for solo or classical/jazz & recording applications - and for rock or louder situations i use akg 419 or 418 clip-on's for toms and snares.

Link (http://www.terrybozzio.com/setup.html)

[kwame k]

redundant.

:gulp:


Fuck off strings;)

[LoungeMachine]

Porn for neanderthals.

:gulp:

I feel my IQ lowering being in here...... :D

[kwame k]

Here's another thing drummers might be interested in. I haven't tried these drum heads yet but I think I'm going to buy them next payday. I'm really interested on how they sit on the tom and if they'll seat themselves better than traditional drum heads. I like that they are more like bongo heads and it may stay in tune longer and give better overall tone without the annoying over ring.

From Bozzio's website (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/drumgear.html)

In his constant quest for perfection, Terry Bozzio has again improved his signature series ATTACK TM Drumheads. For Terry's solo, melodic playing style, tuning heads to actual notes is critical, and this new design has made tuning the myriad of drums Terry plays much easier. The new patent pending design was tested and perfected by Terry himself. A more bongo-like collar fits perfectly over the bearing edge without forced tension and stretching, resulting in no dead spots, even when you first put them on. The heads are easier to tune and stay in tune much better. And a special bonus, because of the perfect fit, the heads can last up to twice as long! We think you'll like this new design as much as Terry does.


Toms
medium clear toms (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/cleartoms.html)
medium coated toms (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/coatedtoms.html)
Snares
medium snare sides (bottom) (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/snareside.html)
medium coated bottom dot (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/bottomdot.html)
medium coated top dot(Top Dot Snares are temporarily unavailable...please check back soon... "
Bass Drums
medium clear (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/bassclear.html)
medium coated (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/basscoated.html)
no Overtone clear (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/overbassclear.html)
no Overtone coated (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/overbasscoated.html)
black thin skin (http://www.terrybozzio.com/merch/blackts.html)

[LoungeMachine]

What size sticks do you use?

:gulp:

Ever try the HotRods?

[bait]

[kwame k]

Porn for neanderthals.

:gulp:

I feel my IQ lowering being in here...... :D

Bullshit, string picker! Every reply to Gar makes your IQ drop.......replying here will just make you http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/homer.jpg

[kwame k]

What size sticks do you use?

:gulp:

Ever try the HotRods?

[bait]


:biggrin:

[chefcraig]

Here's another thing drummers might be interested in. I haven't tried these drum heads yet but I think I'm going to buy them next payday. I'm really interested on how they sit on the tom and if they'll seat themselves better than traditional drum heads. I like that they are more like bongo heads and it may stay in tune longer and give better overall tone without the annoying over ring.

I hope this doesn't turn out like those short-lived "hydraulic heads". As I recall, the idea was pretty good, yet the technology available at the time to make them was fairly dismal.

I hear ya on downsizing your set. The most effective guys I know are using an early Bonham-like set-up, consisting of a snare, one tom, a floor tom, a crash, high-hat and ride. Things really got out of hand when people started using double bass drum sets. They just started piling more and more shit on top of them. The invention of the double bass pedal for a single kick was a terrific thing, and makes the double bass kit obsolete. For one thing, you do not need to lug around as much shit, and besides that, unless you are playing ELP, Crimson or early Genesis covers, who needs the damned thing?

[chefcraig]

I posted this in another thread, yet it is worth revisiting as it allows you to visualize how John Bonham could literally "stretch" time while playing in Led Zeppelin. You may need to watch this a few times to actually catch on to what is taking place. http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-336.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/)


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[kwame k]

I hope this doesn't turn out like those short-lived "hydraulic heads". As I recall, the idea was pretty good, yet the technology available at the time to make them was fairly dismal.

I hear ya on downsizing your set. The most effective guys I know are using an early Bonham-like set-up, consisting of a snare, one tom, a floor tom, a crash, high-hat and ride. Things really got out of hand when people started using double bass drum sets. They just started piling more and more shit on top of them. The invention of the double bass pedal for a single kick was a terrific thing, and makes the double bass kit obsolete. For one thing, you do not need to lug around as much shit, and besides that, unless you are playing ELP, Crimson or early Genesis covers, who needs the damned thing?

You're talking about the Evans Hydraulic drum heads and they still make them. I agree with your assessment of those heads, as far as in the early days, they sucked. The funny thing is Remo has been using oil filled heads for years, the Pinstripe, it does a far better job and way cheaper too. Pinstripes are fucking work horses, as long as you tune them right and keep a relatively even tension, the plys won't seperate.

The head I used for years on my metal Snares were the Remo FyberskinsII, I used it on my wooden Snares too but a coated Ambassador is the one and only, for me.

Really I'm more into the groove of the drummer, the nuances and the subtleties. Gotta tell ya, Charlie Watts, the older I become the more I appreciate him. If you can make a 3 piece cook and swing at the same time, you're doing something.

[chefcraig]

You mentioned Remo, which reminds me of something I could never figure. The company came out with roto toms in what, 1977 or so? Then why couldn't this lefty-loosy/righty-tighty technology be adapted for all drum heads? Essentially, all you'd need was the same turntable like set-up, only one that you could lock into place. It would make tuning so much easier, rather than chasing your tail with a drum key.

[kwame k]

You mentioned Remo, which reminds me of something I could never figure. The company came out with roto toms in what, 1977 or so? Then why couldn't this lefty-loosy/righty-tighty technology be adapted for all drum heads? Essentially, all you'd need was the same turntable like set-up, only one that you could lock into place. It would make tuning so much easier, rather than chasing your tail with a drum key.

They've actually done have that. Never played them and have no idea how they sound but......http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/pearl.jpg

[kwame k]

Here's a fun one......too bad most of Gene Krupa's stuff was only put on film in the movies. There doesn't seem to be a fucking film from that era that doesn't have Krupa in it somewhere. Gangster scene car chase, out of nowhere there's Gene and his band.

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[chefcraig]

They've actually done have that. Never played them and have no idea how they sound but...


That is odd looking. There appears to be a one (or more) inch gap between the head and the shell, and the shell itself is abbreviated as hell. Weird.

[kwame k]

No info on it and I don't think Pearl ever released a drum like that. All you're really doing, in a simplistic sense, is moving air from the top head to the bottom head, so even with a gap, if you tuned the batter head correctly you could get resonance off of the shell. I know shell resonance and a sealed space between heads is more effective but I bet you could get some weird sounds out of it.

[chefcraig]

Still looks strange, yet the way you explained it makes sense. Speaking of strange, here's Mr. Bean playing an invisible set.


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[kwame k]

You know, thinking about it more, that doesn't even work because you have that screw thing in the middle that's used to change the pitch on a roto Tom. Wow, never really thought about it that much but to do it right, you'd have to basically encase a shell around a roto tom, yet still be able to spin the roto tom and have it sealed at the same time.

[chefcraig]

Essentially, you'd have three rings. The outer outer ring could hold the entire thing together, which could actually be halfed with a hinge to attach the device to the shell and hold it in place. Next would be a second that fits with the innermost, which would spin free (think of a bearing and a race). The gasket would connect and contain the two rings, creating the seal. The seal itself would have to be like a rubber flange, that will expand or contract. It need not be drastic, as the average throw would only be 3/4s of an inch at most.

I could draw it better than explain it, yet it would be fairly simple to create. It would work pretty much the way a bit housing/holder works on an electric drill.

[kwame k]

Essentially, you'd have three rings. The outer outer ring could hold the entire thing together, which could actually be halfed with a hinge to attach the device to the shell and hold it in place. Next would be a second that fits with the innermost, which would spin free (think of a bearing and a race). The gasket would connect and contain the two rings, creating the seal. The seal itself would have to be like a rubber flange, that will expand or contract. It need not be drastic, as the average throw would only be 3/4s of an inch at most.

I could draw it better than explain it, yet it would be fairly simple to create. It would work pretty much the way a bit housing/holder works on an electric drill.


OK, I'm picking up what you're laying down. The gasket would be key in it, if you think about it, it doesn't have to be hermetically sealed, most drum have an air hole anyways.

[chefcraig]

Bingo. Think of how a lid screws onto a thermos bottle. Imagine placing a piece of Saran Wrap between the lid and the bottle. The SW would be your drum head. Now if you used a rubber band to hold the SW to the lid, that would be your expanding gasket. The cup that you screw onto the top of the thermos would hold it all together.

[LoungeMachine]

Bingo. Think of how a lid screws onto a thermos bottle. Imagine placing a piece of Saran Wrap between the lid and the bottle. The SW would be your drum head. Now if you used a rubber band to hold the SW to the lid, that would be your expanding gasket. The cup that you screw onto the top of the thermos would hold it all together.

Finally a visual that won't confound them.

:gulp:

[kwame k]

Bingo. Think of how a lid screws onto a thermos bottle. Imagine placing a piece of Saran Wrap between the lid and the bottle. The SW would be your drum head. Now if you used a rubber band to hold the SW to the lid, that would be your expanding gasket.


You're definitely on to something but I always imagined something like the Gibson guitar that self tunes, now that would be cool. Have a tension sensing device that could mechanically keep tension, where the lug screws in at.

[chefcraig]

You're definitely on to something but I always imagined something like the Gibson guitar that self tunes, now that would be cool. Have a tension sensing device that could mechanically keep tension, where the lug screws in at.

It could be a spring if you think about it, yet what I'm saying is to remove the bolts altogether. You'd have three concentric rings, with equal tension held to the head throughout it's surface, rather than 6 or 8 pressure points. Essentially, it would be replacing 5 lug nuts/bolts on the wheel of a car with one. In terms of mechanics, it is not a simpler device, yet it does far more. It allows quick changing of heads, along with on the fly tuning that can be done while playing, without a drum key.

[kwame k]

It would seem that a pressure clamp type thing would do that. Think about something like the tensioning claps on a musical flight case. Replace the lugs around the shell and the rim with a clasp(clasp is not really the right word but) with an adjustable clamp and you could achieve the same results without totally redesigning the drum.......not sure if that makes much sense but I'm just riffing here.

[chefcraig]

Hey, me too when it comes to riffing. Besides, all of this actual musicianship stuff will be replaced by machines and video games soon anyway...

Must say, it's been fun thinking the shit up and bouncing ideas back and forth, ya know? That stuff will never die.

[kwame k]

Hey, me too when it comes to riffing. Besides, all of this actual musicianship stuff will be replaced by machines and video games soon anyway...

Must say, it's been fun thinking the shit up and bouncing ideas back and forth, ya know? That stuff will never die.


Free exchange of ideas Craig, I'm all for that! Great riffing with ya:theband:

My brother, they'll never replace the natural or acoustic instruments. Yes, the inroads they have made in all electrical instruments is amazing. That fucking Roland V-Pro http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/roland.jpg

That may become my work horse kit, play it anywhere, no worries about being too loud and being able to tweak setting like a guitar amp, plus 100's of presets!!!!! Crank that fucker through a Marshall amp, too bad the V-Drums are still 5 grand new.

They would be great for convenience but like every time they try to emulate acoustic instruments, they never get it quite right.

[chefcraig]

Look, I've been dealing with these "Gizmo-cretins" since around 1976, OK? First it was the guitar wiz-hards that had the latest toys (that weighed about as much as a bag of fertilizer and gave off odd shocks). I'd use my fingers, a Cry-baby wah pedal and volume to get my point across, while these guys were tap-dancing all over the place. I also found out that they had rooms to practice in that had full-length mirrors. And if you asked these self-obsessed dickwads a simple question, they'd either be crankily dismissive or ignore you.

A few years later, a bunch of guys showed up with fashions from the J.C. Penny "young woman's section", wearing make-up from Eckerd drugs and holding some bulky keyboards and jack-plugs. I asked the same questions, and received the same snotty answers.

It took me a few years to piece together the truth. The thing is, if I asked "What key is that in?", these fuckers did not know. The arrogance they maintained was in fact affected, to disguise a fear.

And that fear is what I fail to understand. Crap, I don't know what notes I'm playing a great part of the time. Yet this arrogance is borne of petulance, an intangible insecurity that all non-real "musicians" have. True artists can get together and create, usually by accident. Posers hide behind devices. Artists can create with a pen and paper, or less.

There is a guy named Westerberg that wrote a great line, about "playin' make-up, wearing guitar". How true. How fuckin' true.

[kwame k]

Spot fucking on Craig! I'm really thinking about stripping my kit down to the absolute basics. Bass, snare, floor tom, ride cymbal, hi-hats, and a couple of crashes. replacing the mounted toms with bongos or a djembe, something like that.

[chefcraig]

Spot fucking on Craig! I'm really thinking about stripping my kit down to the absolute basics. Bass, snare, floor tom, ride cymbal, hi-hats, and a couple of crashes. replacing the mounted toms with bongos or a djembe, something like that.

So, experiment, why not? For one thing, you will challenge yourself in ways you did not expect. Remember that cliche' of rolling off the double toms into the crash, one you perhaps relied on from time to time? It's now gone.
How's about playing your snare rudiments on the bass drum, and your bass drum kicks as on the snare?

I'd mentioned a variant on the theme to a guitarist who'd reached a dead end with composition. I suggested he try de-tuning some strings. The hands will develop different chording shapes.

Redefine the parameters.

By taking shit apart, you gain incredible insights. One of these days, I must tell ya my story of playing with a reggae band in the Bahamas. Talk about trading information. By the way, it was me that taught the guys how to play in reggae time. Yup, the tourist rocks a town square. (Hint: We played a bunch of Creedence and Seger tunes first.)

:hee:

[kwame k]

Oh, I have been all over changing up and transposing one drum for another. Just using your left hand as another bass drum and using the heal to toe bass drum trick there's really no need for two bass drums. Look at Bonham for instance, he could do licks like this..........

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The real trick is to keep something steady and in time. That's why keeping time on your right hand helps move a groove along and giving an illusion of constant forward movement. That frees up your left hand for endless possibilities. Think about how many snare hits there are in a 4/4 time signature, that leaves huge gaps rythmacially.

I use a pair of bongos to the left side of my hi-hat. I can hit my snare strikes and yet go over to the bongos, still coming back in time with my snare. I did a mean version of Sympathy For The Devil utilizing that technique.

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[kwame k]

Check this cat out.........

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[VH Drummer]

They've actually done have that. Never played them and have no idea how they sound but......http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/pearl.jpg

I've got both pairs of roto toms. I can match the "1984" sound on the 15"/17" pair but the others are too high pitched for my taste.

I've always wondered how Alex got the roto tom heads onto a regular shell and now it all makes sense, I think I'm going to give that a try. (I never thought I'd say this but) Thanks, Kwame!

[GAR]

A guy who used to work at Dr Music in Pasadena bought Alex's clear-shelled Ludwig octobons for $400. Those are unique-sounding toms.

[VH Drummer]

I tried the roto tom thing today, it didn't work out that well, it looks like the shell in the picture is a half. I was able to put the 14" top on an old snare I have (and removed the wires) and it sounds like a really deep roto tom, I put it on the right of my hi-hat (I'm a lefty).

[kwame k]

I tried the roto tom thing today, it didn't work out that well, it looks like the shell in the picture is a half. I was able to put the 14" top on an old snare I have (and removed the wires) and it sounds like a really deep roto tom, I put it on the right of my hi-hat (I'm a lefty).

Far out man! Did you have to tune the bottom head of the shell real tight to get the resonance to transfer from top to bottom and get that bounce back?

[kwame k]

In the pic I posted that's what they did, mounted on a snare. Wonder how it would sound keeping the snare wires on?

[VH Drummer]

Yup. I used an old Emperor X Black Dot for the bottom but tore off the coating because it was too thick. I've got a Pinstripe on the top, but I'm going to do some more adjusting tomorrow to get the best sound possible.

[Seshmeister]

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[kwame k]

Yup. I used an old Emperor X Black Dot for the bottom but tore off the coating because it was too thick. I've got a Pinstripe on the top, but I'm going to do some more adjusting tomorrow to get the best sound possible.


Ever use the Remo Fiberskyns? Used to love those heads, for the snare anyways.

Here's a cool website.
Fiberskyn 3 - Snare Drum Heads (http://www.vintagedrum.com/category/Drum-Heads-Snare-Drum-Heads/model/Fiberskyn+3)

[katie]

.

I hear ya on downsizing your set. The most effective guys I know are using an early Bonham-like set-up, consisting of a snare, one tom, a floor tom, a crash, high-hat and ride. Things really got out of hand when people started using double bass drum sets. They just started piling more and more shit on top of them. The invention of the double bass pedal for a single kick was a terrific thing, and makes the double bass kit obsolete. For one thing, you do not need to lug around as much shit, and besides that, unless you are playing ELP, Crimson or early Genesis covers, who needs the damned thing?


In the late 80's / early 90's I used a Double bass set up with 4 on the top / 2 on the floor + loads of cymbals etc.

These days i find less IS more, as I find I am more creative with just a Bonham set up and a twin kick pedal.

[katie]

Here's a fun one......too bad most of Gene Krupa's stuff was only put on film in the movies. There doesn't seem to be a fucking film from that era that doesn't have Krupa in it somewhere. Gangster scene car chase, out of nowhere there's Gene and his band.

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I read that Gene was a big influence on Keith Moon.

From watching this clip I can see where Keith's act came from.

Good stuff!

[Diamondjimi]

In the late 80's / early 90's I used a Double bass set up with 4 on the top / 2 on the floor + loads of cymbals etc.

These days i find less IS more, as I find I am more creative with just a Bonham set up and a twin kick pedal.

Bullshit. Post photos or fuck off !

[kwame k]

Bullshit. Post photos or fuck off !

Geez, OK Jimi;)

My old kit circa 1987.......

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/Todd.jpg


My Absolute Maple Custom........

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/Picture014.jpg

[katie]

Bullshit. Post photos or fuck off !

http://selfhelprevolution.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/how_to_win_friends_and_influence_people.jpg

[Diamondjimi]

http://selfhelprevolution.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/how_to_win_friends_and_influence_people.jpg

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fb141.jpg

[VH Drummer]

Ever use the Remo Fiberskyns? Used to love those heads, for the snare anyways.

Here's a cool website.
Fiberskyn 3 - Snare Drum Heads (http://www.vintagedrum.com/category/Drum-Heads-Snare-Drum-Heads/model/Fiberskyn+3)

I've never tried them. I had Pinstripes for a while, then switched to Coated Emperors for a long time and recently went back to Pinstripes. I'm using the Coated Emperor X on the snare and I get a really thick sound out of it.

I use no muffling in my kick and it's earth-shattering, I love it. Last weekend, I was recording some demos at a friend's house and I tested out the kick and he came running downstairs thinking there was a gunshot or explosion.

[kwame k]

I've never tried them. I had Pinstripes for a while, then switched to Coated Emperors for a long time and recently went back to Pinstripes. I'm using the Coated Emperor X on the snare and I get a really thick sound out of it.


Love the pinstripes and use a coated emperor myself.

[Susie Q]

Kwame, I like the looks of your old kit, good stuff!!

[kwame k]

Kwame, I like the looks of your old kit, good stuff!!

Thanks Q, good to see ya around!

Still have that kit, too.

[Diamondjimi]

Dig the '87 kit there. Dude you never said you played in Anthrax!!! :biggrin:

But I bet your current kit sound 100 times better! ;)

[katie]

I have always used pinstripes since about 85.

So much easier to tune, No constant rings to gaffer up etc and great for the studio.

Black dot remo on the snare.

[GAR]

I read that Gene was a big influence on Keith Moon.

From watching this clip I can see where Keith's act came from.

Good stuff!

That's my snare right there, the Super Krupa COB, plain ol' 8 lugger. I lovvit.

I had lost 3 snares to theft, but I picked this one up in 06 just passing thru a pawnshop and they didn't know what it was.. stole it for $65.

[kwame k]

Dig the '87 kit there. Dude you never said you played in Anthrax!!! :biggrin:

But I bet your current kit sound 100 times better! ;)

Way better, live and for recording.

[kwame k]

That's my snare right there, the Super Krupa COB, plain ol' 8 lugger. I lovvit.

I had lost 3 snares to theft, but I picked this one up in 06 just passing thru a pawnshop and they didn't know what it was.. stole it for $65.

Must go nice with your Imaginary Guitar Collection :umm:

[Diamondjimi]

I have always used pinstripes since about 85.

We don't need the gory details of your minge trimming style...:barf:


No constant rings to gaffer up etc and great for the studio.

When the fuck have you recorded?

[Diamondjimi]

I have always used pinstripes since about 85.

We don't need the gory details of your minge trimming style...:barf:


No constant rings to gaffer up etc and great for the studio.
http://www.getprice.com.au/images/uploadimg/880/350__1_drum-7.jpg


Awesome kit ,Tunapants... :rolleyes:

When the fuck have you recorded?

[kwame k]

:biggrin:

[GAR]

Next on the blocked-user list: please welcome, DiamondJackass!

DJ, you have won yourself a coveted position with that last post few others have attained.. know now that when I reply to a thread you decide to smart-off more of your infantile remarks, all I get to see is a stack of blocked reply's like this other worthless scumbucket:

"kwame k (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/members/kwame-k.html) This message is hidden because kwame k is on your ignore list (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist)."

There is no smiley afforded this award, I have officially wiped you off the browser as efficiently as if I hit the WASH button on my windshield wiper.

You don't know shit about shit, you harrass everyone and don't cuntribute. Fuck off!

[kwame k]

Welcome to the club Jimi! It's you, ChefCraig and me so far. You know all the people Clay gets his ass handed to him daily by and he has no game to respond to us.


We meet on the third Tues of each month and newbies like you have to buy the first round.

[jhale667]

Next on the blocked-user list: please welcome, DiamondJackass!


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/Insult%20comic/ostrich.jpg

[Diamondjimi]

Next on the blocked-user list: please welcome, DiamondJackass!
http://www.rothfans.com/forum/images/smilies/party.gifhttp://www.rothfans.com/forum/images/smilies/party.gif


DJ, you have won yourself a coveted position with that last post few others have attained..

(Sniff, sniff . In best Mike Tyson voice) First of all I have to say ,Praise be Allah. The great Mohammed, ah sa mah ling a doo doo !

Wow ,I am truely blessed to recieve this award.
And I wanna share this with my fellow Army troll crushers, Kwame K,Chefcraig,LoungeMachine and Brutha Hale...



There is no smiley afforded this award, I have officially wiped you off the browser as efficiently as if I hit the WASH button on my windshield wiper.

Thank you so much you Google/Wikipedia copy 'n pasting Bitch!!!


You don't know shit about shit,

Yes I do ,Bitch !


you harrass everyone and don't cuntribute.

I harrass Trolls & useless Fuckstumps. You madam fit both of these categories...

I cuntribute plenty. And it sure as fuck ain't cut 'n paste quotes from Google & Wiki ,Fucko!


Fuck off!

You just did... :biggrin:

Someone quote this so Garipedia can eat another shovel full Pwn3d Pie. :biggrin:

Garvicki ,wot a woofter!:anal:

[Diamondjimi]

Welcome to the club Jimi! It's you, ChefCraig and me so far. You know all the people Clay gets his ass handed to him daily by and he has no game to respond to us.

Well ,Kaptain Kut'npaste never had game to begin with. That Bitch has had his ass kicked so much he's gonna need a zipper implanted to keep his bowels from falling out.. :biggrin:



We meet on the third Tues of each month and newbies like you have to buy the first round.

Giddyup! :D
:gulp:

[halenrox1]

Holy Fuckin Shit, great drummers make great sets!!!!

[katie]

I can't handle the fact that Katie can play the fucking drums and is now posting in my forum!

You'll get over it bubba.

Misogynistic idiot.

x

[GAR]

Holy Fuckin Shit, great drummers make great sets!!!!

Slingerland more like.

Buddy Rich also was endorsed by Slingerland during that period, 1940s-1970's.

Slingerland made the best kits but Ludwig was bigger and made better hardware.

Ludwig followed Rogers into going all-maple plys for the shells in the late 60s.

Ludwig shells were mahogany/poplar/mahogany layered plys while Slingerland's were maple/poplar/maple and could take a ding better and looked better stripped of shell wrap finished clear.

[kwame k]

Slingerland more like.

Buddy Rich also was endorsed by Slingerland during that period, 1940s-1970's.

Slingerland made the best kits but Ludwig was bigger and made better hardware.

Ludwig followed Rogers into going all-maple plys for the shells in the late 60s.

Ludwig shells were mahogany/poplar/mahogany layered plys while Slingerland's were maple/poplar/maple and could take a ding better and looked better stripped of shell wrap finished clear.

Do you ever get anything right? A fucking broken clock is at least right twice a day.

First Buddy didn't play or endorse Slingerland drums from the 40's to the 70's.

Nope, Buddy's endorsement with Ludwig was from 1946 to 1959, then went to Rodgers from 1960 to 1966, then Trixon/Vox... then Fibes... then finally to Slingerland, which lasted from 1967 to 1976. Buddy's FINAL Ludwig endosrement period was from 1977 to 1980... then he continued to use/play his Ludwig's from 1981 to 1982... but WITHOUT an endorsement deal, as Buddy and Ludwig parted company for the final time in 1980, then he got a restored set of Slingerland Radio Kings from Joe MacSweeney over at Eames, and played those until his passing.

[kwame k]

I should note that Buddy played whatever kit he wanted, regardless of his endorsement deals.......He was, after all, Buddy fucking Rich!

[kwame k]

1946 Catalog for Ludwig WFL kits
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/1948_wfl_drumsets3.jpg


1962 Catalog
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/1962_rogers_drumsets1.jpg


1971 Catalog
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/1971-slingerland-drumsets1.jpg



1980 Catalog
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/1980_buddy_rich.jpg

[kwame k]

I got those from a great vintage site Vintage Drum Guide - History of Vintage Drums - Vintage Drum Questions and History (http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/index.html)

[Diamondjimi]

You'll get over it bubba.

Misogynistic idiot.

x

Post a photo of your kit (not someone else's), Tunaminge....

[jhale667]

Tunaminge....

:lol: :biggrin:

[Diamondjimi]

:biggrin:

Christ, can you imagine the stench her husband has to endure every night when he lifts the blanets and has to climb in with that thing?!:barf:

[katie]

:biggrin:

Christ, can you imagine the stench her husband has to endure every night when he lifts the blanets and has to climb in with that thing?!:barf:



"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
- Groucho Marx

[LoungeMachine]

Wow.

Yet another thread of Gaydar "ignoring" people and katie making friends.

:lmao:

Has it ever dawned on either of you idiots that maybe the problem isnt with the myriad of other posters who hate you, but actually you yourselves?

:gulp:

I think they both LOVE the negative attention.

[jhale667]

Wow.

Has it ever dawned on either of you idiots that maybe the problem isnt with the myriad of other posters who hate you, but actually you yourselves?



Logic seems to escape them. ;)

[kwame k]

Luckily it's only a Drummer's Thread and not a real musician's thread ;) So those two clowns can't do much harm here.

[GAR]

What is it with you two, Jay and Lounge that you can't participate in a thread without the personal attacks?

Retards/

[Igosplut]

Luckily it's only a Drummer's Thread and not a real musician's thread ;) So those two clowns can't do much harm here.

GARgle isn't a musician.....He just plays one on the internet.

Plus K you just mopped his ass up with Riches history. (notice how he doesn't reply to that)

[Igosplut]

What is it with you two, Jay and Lounge that you can't participate in a thread without the personal attacks?

Retards/

They've only attacked you in this thread, perhaps you should spread your bullshit somewhere else.....

[kwame k]

GARgle isn't a musician.....He just plays one on the internet.

Plus K you just mopped his ass up with Riches history. (notice how he doesn't reply to that)
:biggrin:

[Igosplut]

BTW those were some cool old drum adds. I had no idea that they cost that much in the 60's...

[katie]

Wow.

Yet another thread of Gaydar "ignoring" people and katie making friends.

:lmao:

Has it ever dawned on either of you idiots that maybe the problem isnt with the myriad of other posters who hate you, but actually you yourselves?

:gulp:

I think they both LOVE the negative attention.



Sit down and give your mind a rest.

x

[kwame k]

BTW those were some cool old drum adds. I had no idea that they cost that much in the 60's...

You know it is funny how much drums costs back then. I was reading a John Lennon biography and he mentioned how hard it was to find a drummer with a kit. Pete Best's mom had bought him a kit and that was why he was asked to join the band. Not because he was a good drummer but because he had a kit.

[Igosplut]

I've read a lot of Lennon stuff too, Richard Seamens book, Peter Brown, ect. But I think the best one (sort-of out of left field if you know what I mean) was May Pang's. It had quite a different view that the others, and described different situations than the rest.

And I do remember the story about Pete Best. His mother also let them practice at her house and was very encouraging of them playing..

[kwame k]

I've read a lot of Lennon stuff too, Richard Seamens book, Peter Brown, ect. But I think the best one (sort-of out of left field if you know what I mean) was May Pang's. It had quite a different view that the others, and described different situations than the rest.

And I do remember the story about Pete Best. His mother also let them practice at her house and was very encouraging of them playing..

Yup, you know I never read May's book, I'm going to have to get that one.

I just finished this one, "John Lennon, The Life" by Philip Norman Amazon.com: John Lennon: The Life: Philip Norman: Books (http://www.amazon.com/John-Lennon-Life-Philip-Norman/dp/006075401X)

Great read and very well written. IMO, an honest and unbiased look at Lennon's life and the people around him. Gives great detail about his family and his relationship with his Aunt.

[Igosplut]

That looks interesting, wish I had more time to read as of late.

May Pangs book is out of print, but I'm sure you could get a used copy. That's what I did. One of the funnest books about the Beatles is called "The Longest Cocktail Party" (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias&#37;3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+logest+cocktail+party&x=0&y=0) By Richard DiLello. He worked at the Apple offices, and the book details the madness that went on there. Great read.

[kwame k]

That looks interesting, wish I had more time to read as of late.

May Pangs book is out of print, but I'm sure you could get a used copy. That's what I did. One of the funnest books about the Beatles is called "The Longest Cocktail Party" (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=the+logest+cocktail+party&x=0&y=0) By Richard DiLello. He worked at the Apple offices, and the book details the madness that went on there. Great read.

Good info, Igo! Thanks.

[Igosplut]

No problem. I used to read all the time (when I had time)

WOW, that book is 800 pages! Must be really detailed to go that long..

[kwame k]

It is, it details his entire life and goes into details about his dad and mother, too. It's more about the whole of Lennon's life not just about the Beatles.

[katie]

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_P5bxfUEwFBM/R5o6736_fiI/AAAAAAAAAgY/8iGrMHK-Wtg/s400/brokeback.jpg

[Igosplut]

I guess talkin about books is beyond you huh?

[LoungeMachine]

I guess talkin about books is beyond you huh?

Unemployed single mother on the dole in a shithole town in England?

Wouldn't know a book if it introduced itself to her.

:gulp:

ignorant gunt.

[katie]

I didn't know you played the drums Lounge Queen.

What's your set up?

[kwame k]

I didn't know you played the drums Lounge Queen.

What's your set up?

The things you don't know could fill a book :biggrin:

[LoungeMachine]

The things you don't know could fill a book :biggrin:

:lmao:

too easy.

[kwame k]

:lmao:

too easy.

I know but I am a drummer;)

[katie]

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http://pinknewsblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gayscom.jpg


Too easy!

:biggrin:

[kwame k]

Says the dejected moron who PM'd me whining about how you thought this would be a cool place to talk about drums, yet you seem to only attack people here and rarely mention anything about drums. Practice what you preach much? Hypocrite!

Either STFU and post something relevant to the thread or don't post at all.

[LoungeMachine]

Says the dejected moron who PM'd me whining about how you thought this would be a cool place to talk about drums, yet you seem to only attack people here and rarely mention anything about drums. Practice what you preach much? Hypocrite!

Either STFU and post something relevant to the thread or don't post at all.

I get the same PM's from her. And then when I post them, she claims they're photoshopped. :lmao:

lying gunt. :D

[kwame k]

Just goes to show what type of person she really is. It's funny how people like her and Clay are constantly ridiculed and hated by 99&#37; of the people here, yet they post and complain about everyone else. I know you have mentioned this before about them but it's worth repeating.

[LoungeMachine]

That's just another thing katie and GayDar have in common....

They'll post their bullshit tripe, and call you every name in the book in a thread, but via PM try to be your pal, ask for favors, and talk politely. Just shows what a fucking pose their online schtick is. katie likes to play the funny, tough bitch. When in reality, is just the opposite. But then again, what should we expect from trolls?

But two things are for certain, they all FEED of the negative attention. They CRAVE our attention.

:gulp:

If she knew the truth like you do kwame about my history with certain female drummers..... ;)

[kwame k]

Yup, couldn't agree with you more.

Plus, a certain female drummer plays a natural finish kit, which makes her OK in my book;)

[GAR]

If she knew the truth like you do kwame about my history with certain female drummers...

That they use you like a pair of sticks for a few nights before tossing you out?

[GAR]

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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_P5bxfUEwFBM/R5o6736_fiI/AAAAAAAAAgY/8iGrMHK-Wtg/s400/brokeback.jpg

BWAHAHAHA~!! Thanks that's what I've been saying the whole time here..

[LoungeMachine]

Yup, couldn't agree with you more.

Plus, a certain female drummer plays a natural finish kit, which makes her OK in my book;)

LMAO

I'll hook you two up if ya want. ;)

:gulp:

May as well keep it in the family......

[GAR]

Whit marine or Black Oyster wrap = class.

Natural finish = means you got differnt-branded shells off ebay and peeled 'em.

[LoungeMachine]

Whit marine or Black Oyster wrap = class.

Natural finish = means you got differnt-branded shells off ebay and peeled 'em.

:rolleyes:

God, you're even dumber than I thought.....

:gulp:

[Diamondjimi]

If she knew the truth like you do kwame about my history with certain female drummers..... ;)

You mean you banged Roxy Petrucci?

[kwame k]

Whit marine or Black Oyster wrap = class.

Natural finish = means you got differnt-branded shells off ebay and peeled 'em.

Just when I think you've hit the bottom of the dumb ass pile, you prove how much more of an idiot you really are.

Anyone who has a clue knows that wrapped drums are usually of lower standard, grain wise and they use the wrap to cover up the flaws, ascetically speaking.

Could be why natural finished drums cost more money but you've never let things like facts or the truth get in your way, Clay.

[kwame k]

You mean you banged Roxy Petrucci?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/roxytop1.jpg

They had so much in common, back in the 80's. Same hair style and same clothes.

Wonder why you two didn't last;)

[Igosplut]

You mean you banged Roxy Petrucci?

Sandy West?

[Igosplut]

Errr, actually I take that back...She passed in 06..

[kwame k]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/Picture017.jpg

Yup, just peeled off the wrap from my custom kit, I got on Ebay.:umm:

[kwame k]

Errr, actually I take that back...She passed in 06..

A little thing like that wouldn't stop Lounge:)

[katie]

If she knew the truth like you do kwame about my history with certain female drummers..... ;)


You mean you banged Roxy Petrucci?


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/roxytop1.jpg


That's not a woman, that is TOMMY LEE you idiot!

Lounge Queen you fucked Tommy Lee

BWAHAHAHA!


You dirty little man!

[LoungeMachine]

jesus christ, gunt.

I know YOU think you're funny, and crack YOURSELF up.....

But seriously? Not funny. I can appreciate a good slam/joke/ownage.

But you can never deliver. You either link some stupid pic for the 10th time that you had nothing to do with creating, or you post stupid 3rd grade shit like this... :rolleyes:

Are you actually 14? You write like you are.

:gulp:

[katie]

http://www.roxypetrucci.com/roxy/Images/roxy_sb_072.jpg

Lounge Queen with his (ahem) girlfriend.

BWAHAHAHA!

[Diamondjimi]

WTF are YOU laughing at? That 'lil dude right there can play circles around you ,Tapiocaminge!

[kwame k]

And has a better drum kit.

[kwame k]

For a female drummer I would of thought you would know who Roxy was, Katie.

[kwame k]

WTF are YOU laughing at? That 'lil dude right there can play circles around you ,Tapiocaminge!
Where in the fuck do you come up with these :lmao:

[Diamondjimi]

It's a gift ,what can I say!? :D

[kwame k]

:baaa:

[kwame k]

jesus christ, gunt.

I know YOU think you're funny, and crack YOURSELF up.....

But seriously? Not funny. I can appreciate a good slam/joke/ownage.

But you can never deliver. You either link some stupid pic for the 10th time that you had nothing to do with creating, or you post stupid 3rd grade shit like this... :rolleyes:

Are you actually 14? You write like you are.

:gulp:

Kinda sorry I even posted that pic and reply.

[katie]

Kinda sorry I even posted that pic and reply.

I'm not.

Thank you

x

:lmao:

[kwame k]

No, just a sorry excuse for a human being.

[jhale667]

Whit marine or Black Oyster wrap = class.

Natural finish = means you got differnt-branded shells off ebay and peeled 'em.

Wow, you really ARE a hammerhead!


Just when I think you've hit the bottom of the dumb ass pile, you prove how much more of an idiot you really are.

Anyone who has a clue knows that wrapped drums are usually of lower standard, grain wise and they use the wrap to cover up the flaws, ascetically speaking.

Could be why natural finished drums cost more money but you've never let things like facts or the truth get in your way, Clay.

Holy crap, I even knew that and I'm a guitarist, FFS. :lmao:

[kwame k]

I don't hold it against you that you're a real guitarist.

Now for something completely different.

No, I'm not on drugs or even drunk but a fucking black bear just ran across the road about 30 feet away from my window, Holy Shit!!!!!!!!! Big boy too, had to be at least 250/300 pounds, hauling ass across the road and climbed right up the fucking red rock face. Wow! Manitou Springs, baby let your freak flag fly, come as you are.

[jhale667]

I don't hold it against you that you're a real guitarist.

Thanks. :D




Now for something completely different.

No, I'm not on drugs or even drunk but a fucking black bear just ran across the road about 30 feet away from my window, Holy Shit!!!!!!!!! Big boy too, had to be at least 250/300 pounds, hauling ass across the road and climbed right up the fucking red rock face. Wow! Manitou Springs, baby let your freak flag fly, come as you are.

Holy crap! Closest I've come to that kind of too-close-to nature thing is walked out my front door of my old place in Studio City to find a huge deer standing in my driveway...and there was the occasional coyote...

If a bear comes walking through my shit, better believe I'm letting him play through before I go outside! :D

[GAR]

Wow, you really ARE a hammerhead!

You're the one with the junk gear, you don't know anything about it. I've refinished shells before, now I prefer to keep em vintage.

[kwame k]

And you're the one who has no idea what he's talking about, junk gear, jealous much, Clay.

[jhale667]

You're the one with the junk gear


You can keep telling yourself that until the cows come home (or the cops make you move off your park bench), and no one will ever believe that lie. WE all know better, and you know nothing you didn't find on Wikipedia.

And you WILL keep telling yourself that - because you're in denial. Wishing it won't make it so, GAyR.


:guitar:

[katie]

http://www.roxypetrucci.com/roxy/Images/roxy_sb_072.jpg


Lounge Queen has gone quiet all of a sudden.

I wonder if he is writing to his girlfriend Roxy again.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[GAR]

I thought she croaked..

[jhale667]

Lounge Queen has gone quiet all of a sudden.

I wonder if he is writing to his girlfriend Roxy again.

:lmao:

Anyone ever told you you're about as funny as a root canal without the anesthesia? :rolleyes:

[Igosplut]

This broad reminds me of my old school cafeteria food--bland, sloppily prepaired, and unsatisfying.

And probably a perfect fit for GARgle....

[LoungeMachine]

This broad reminds me of my old school cafeteria food--bland, sloppily prepaired, and unsatisfying.

And probably a perfect fit for GARgle....

An her schtick seems to be focused on "funny" pics she culls from the web...

Gee, using shit she finds on the web to make her "points" Who does that remind us of?

:gulp:

[kwame k]

An her schtick seems to be focused on "funny" pics she culls from the web...

Gee, using shit she finds on the web to make her "points" Who does that remind us of?

:gulp:

:umm:

[kwame k]

Thanks. :D




Holy crap! Closest I've come to that kind of too-close-to nature thing is walked out my front door of my old place in Studio City to find a huge deer standing in my driveway...and there was the occasional coyote...

If a bear comes walking through my shit, better believe I'm letting him play through before I go outside! :D

I ran outside after it! In hindsight, not one of my brighter moves;)

[GAR]

If a bear shits in the wooden shells, and nobody cares, was the bear really there at all?

[Diamondjimi]

You're the one with the junk gear, you don't know anything about it.

Post your gear or fuck off. Wait, nevermind .Just fuck off!


I've refinished shells before...

No you havn't ,liar!

[katie]

http://www.neilsvixenpage.com/Roxynamm3.jpg



jesus christ, gunt.

I know YOU think you're funny, and crack YOURSELF up.....

But seriously? Not funny.

Tommy, sorry Roxy and I were in love and I still write to her every day.

:gulp:

OK I will ease up on you as you clearly have feelings for him, sorry her.

I had no idea that you are the size of a fully grown umpa lumpa Lounge.

Why did she dump you?

[Guitar Shark]

Show us your tits, katie!

[GAR]

That's Roxy and her one-nite balding stand..

[LoungeMachine]

Show us your tits, katie!

Ewww..

Did you NOT learn your lesson with FAB?

:gulp:

[Guitar Shark]

Ewww..

Did you NOT learn your lesson with FAB?

:gulp:

I was attempting to distract her from her bizarre fixation on you, Einstein... ;)

[jhale667]

Hmmm...both lame trolls...both clearly obsessed with other posters...is there a troll love match brewing with GAyR and Kuntie?

[kwame k]

Hmmm...both lame trolls...both clearly obsessed with other posters...is there a troll love match brewing with GAyR and Kuntie?
Jesus Jay, if there is, please dear God let one of them be sterile.

[jhale667]

Jesus Jay, if there is, please dear God let one of them be sterile.

One can only hope... :lmao:

[LoungeMachine]

I was attempting to distract her from her bizarre fixation on you, Einstein... ;)

:lmao:

Her fixation is warranted.

[kwame k]

Wait, you were in Warrant?

[katie]

If she knew the truth like you do kwame about my history with certain female drummers..... ;)


You mean you banged Roxy Petrucci?


http://www.roxypetrucci.com/roxy/Images/roxy_sb_072.jpg

Of course you did Lounge, of course you did.


:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[jhale667]

Yeah...that picture was barely amusing the first time you posted it.

[katie]

I know YOU think you're funny, and crack YOURSELF up.....

But seriously? Not funny.

:gulp:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_iLV-hN8IJuc/SBq3H7J8cKI/AAAAAAAAAE0/V_vhNGH-658/s400/crying+baby.jpg

Stop crying, You'll get over it

Now unplug the computer and fuck your lovely wife for a change.

Fucking hell! she/he hasn't aged well.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

http://www.vixenrock.com/images/V_071.jpg

[Diamondjimi]

Fucking hell! she/he hasn't aged well.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[IMG]http://www.vixenrock.com/images/V_071.jpg

I beg to differ ,Leathersnatch!

Your tits are like flabby pancakes and your cumpouch has a caterpillar hairline crawling/growing north from your overgrown minge. You wish you looked that good @ 47.

[katie]

Lounge looks a bit rotund in that wedding pic & she looks like Vinnie Vincent.

[jhale667]

...Same lame pic in two consecutive posts? I think not.

Back on topic.

[GAR]

HA he's shorter than she is! Yer a KNOB dude..

[chefcraig]

Let's be honest here...when you read the words "Grand Funk" you do not immediately associate the term with great musicianship. On the contrary, what comes to mind is more or less a workman-like approach to getting some fairly basic songs across. Yes, that seemingly limited musicianship may have finally been manipulated by producers like Todd Rundgren or Frank Zappa to produce several hits, you still wondered if these guys were that much better than a garage band, or even KISS for that matter.

I always thought that Don Brewer was a simple time-keeper. That idea was recently thrown out the window while viewing this clip. It is an all out jam, featuring a keyboard/drum jam between Brewer and Funk keyboardist Graig Frost. Obviously a pro-shot tape from the venue ( Madison Square Garden 12/23/72), this material is unavailable on any GFR official release.


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[Diamondjimi]

I've got this show.Killer!
These dudes can seriously jam. Donnie Brewer is my drummers all time fav. GFR had tons of awesome songs long before they hooked up with Rundgren & Zappa. Those two names alone speak volumes about their (GFR's) talent. Cool find Chef! ;)

BTW Farner is no slouch on the kit either. He's made numerous solo albums where he's played most of the instruments incl. drums!:D

[Diamondjimi]

Great jammin,smokin solo!:cool8:

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[katie]

Bog standard early 70's rock drumming.

Mainly using the old break the triplet up into 2 on the top 1 on the floor routine...

Bonham did it sooooooo much better.

Loved the first 4 GRF albums though.

You don't play the drums do you diamondthingy.

x

[jhale667]

Bonham did it sooooooo much better.



That kinda goes without saying, doesn't it? :rolleyes:

[Diamondjimi]

Bog standard early 70's rock drumming.


:rolleyes:



You don't play the drums do you diamondthingy.

x

Yes I can. Nothing to brag about...

But can you play guitar?:hee:

[katie]

Obv by your reply you are not.

Hugs

x

[chefcraig]

A pretty astounding jam between Stanley Clark and Steve Gadd.

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Here Gadd demonstrates some of the fills he performed on the title track of Steely Dan's Aja album.

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Steve Gadd Performing At The Buddy Rich Tribute

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[chefcraig]

This is a clip from the Discovery Channel's Time Warp show. Using a HiDef slow motion camera, the hosts film things to reveal some at times startling details. Here, the camera is set on drummer Mike Mangini.

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[VH Drummer]

Alright, so I've got a question. I have this design I want to use for my kit (the interchanging Life and Death would go on each bass head). I have white shells so it works perfectly.

How would I go about getting this printed? Decals? And how much?

[Diamondjimi]

Bump... :smiley-sniffer:

A great hard drivin, kick ass Rock and Roll drum solo by Mikkey Dee ,one of my favs...

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