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Big Train
06-09-2009, 01:41 AM
Obama repackages stimulus plans with old promises

By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers
Mon Jun 8, 7:59 pm ET

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama assured the nation his recovery plan was on track Monday, scrambling to calm Americans unnerved by unemployment rates still persistently rising nearly four months after he signed the biggest economic stimulus in history.

Obama admitted his own dissatisfaction with the progress but said his administration would ramp up stimulus spending in the coming months. The White House acknowledged it has spent only $44 billion, or 5 percent, of the $787 billion stimulus, but that total has always been expected to rise sharply this summer.

"Now we're in a position to really accelerate," Obama said.
He also repeated an earlier promise to create or save 600,000 jobs by the end of the summer.

Neither the acceleration nor the jobs goal are new. Both represent a White House repackaging of promises and projects to blunt criticism that the effects haven't been worth the historic price tag. And the job estimate is so murky, it can never be verified.

The economy has shed 1.6 million jobs since the stimulus measure was signed in February, far overshadowing White House announcements estimating the effort has saved 150,000 jobs. Public opinion of Obama's handling of the economy has declined along with the jobs data.
For the first time, the administration admitted the economic forecasts it used to sell the stimulus were overly optimistic.

"At the time, our forecast seemed reasonable," Vice President Joe Biden's top economic adviser, Jared Bernstein, said Monday, explaining that the White House underestimated the scope of the recession. "Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic."

By now, according to earlier White House economic models, the nation's unemployment rate should be on the decline. The forecasts used to drum up support for the plan projected today's unemployment would be about 8 percent. Instead, it sits at 9.4 percent, the highest in more than 25 years.
Some analysts believe the White House is still not being realistic, that Obama will be lucky if any real job creation from his recovery effort is seen by the end of the year, let alone the employment explosion he predicts.
"I think these estimates are overly optimistic," said Arpitha Bykere, a senior analyst with RGE Monitor.

Obama spoke Monday about "modest progress" in the economy, citing fewer jobs lost last month than expected. He said he hopes to build on that in the months ahead with stimulus programs.

"We've done more than ever, faster than ever, more responsibly than ever, to get the gears of the economy moving again," he said.
But he acknowledged, "I'm not satisfied. We've got more work to do."

Americans apparently agree. Obama's disapproval rating on the economy has risen from 30 percent in February to 42 percent, according to a Gallup poll completed May 31. Sensing weakness on a signature issue of Obama's presidency, congressional Republicans are renewing their criticisms that the stimulus plan has not shown results, only mounting debt.

"This is President Obama's economy, and his administration must provide results and specifics rather than vague descriptions of success that seem to change by the week," House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia said. "The administration looks dramatically out of touch as they highlight the creation of temporary summer employment in the face of job losses unseen in decades, record unemployment and massive deficits."

By any measure, spending $44 billion in less than four months — and with unprecedented openness — is an uncharacteristic feat in Washington. But the expectations have been even higher.

Several economists said Monday the economy is unlikely to see much boost from the stimulus before next year.

"It takes time to organize projects, to get the bids in, the funds out and the work started," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight.
Obama answered his critics Monday by announcing a list of stimulus projects, including many already previously outlined, saying the work will have a huge affect on the economy this summer.

There is money for expanded health services in local clinics; improvements in national parks and medical centers for veterans; money for police and school jobs; and more than 1,800 public works projects.

Without naming names, Obama shot back at skeptics during the Cabinet meeting.

"Now, I know that there's some who, despite all evidence to the contrary, still don't believe in the necessity and promise of this recovery act."
"And I would suggest to them that they talk to the companies who, because of this plan, scrapped the idea of laying off employees and, in fact, decided to hire employees. Tell that to the Americans who received that unexpected call saying, 'Come back to work.'"

Big Train
06-09-2009, 01:46 AM
600,000 jobs in 90 days he says....tick tock....oh wait, create OR save, we will see how it goes to see which form of math he takes.

sadaist
06-09-2009, 01:56 AM
"At the time, our forecast seemed reasonable,"


Sounds like what happened with Iraq. Should we begin to label the Obama administration and all of the Democrats who pushed this bill as liars now?





Obama also repeated an earlier promise to create or save 600,000 jobs by the end of the summer.


I bet anyone here a 6-pack of their favorite beer that he claims the 50,000 GM jobs as "saved" jobs. And didn't he originally promise to "create or save" 3 million jobs?

GAR
06-09-2009, 02:06 AM
Obama promised to shrink government, all he does now is tell lots a fuckin' lies.

Liarbama.

GAR
06-09-2009, 02:15 AM
Everytime I see some FAG ASS with one of those General Mills-lookin' r-w-blue Obama Logo stickers on their rear window or bumper I feel like shouting "You got lied to!" and I often pitch bagged paper garbage such as the remainder of a McDonalds' meal.

I enjoy the splash of paper, plastic and lettuce across said public offenders' windshield.

FUCK these traitors..

LoungeMachine
06-09-2009, 02:40 AM
Everytime I see some FAG ASS with one of those General Mills-lookin' r-w-blue Obama Logo stickers on their rear window or bumper I feel like shouting "You got lied to!" and I often pitch bagged paper garbage such as the remainder of a McDonalds' meal.I enjoy the splash of paper, plastic and lettuce across said public offenders' windshield.

FUCK these traitors..

Gaydar eats Happy Meals.

Why does this not surprise me?

:gulp:

Kristy
06-09-2009, 03:07 AM
Gaydar eats Happy Meals.

Why does this not surprise me?

:gulp:

:hee::hee::hee:

That cracked me up.

GAR
06-09-2009, 04:05 AM
That cracked me up.

"Shovel-Ready Project Funding" that cracks me up, too.

Let's find that money and put it back huh?

GAR
06-09-2009, 04:07 AM
Gar eats Happy Meals.

Why does this not surprise me?

If I did I wouldn't be so FAT.

sadaist
06-09-2009, 07:07 AM
Gaydar eats Happy Meals.

Why does this not surprise me?

:gulp:

I do to, but it depends on the prize. :)

mwsully
06-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Of course they're liars! Tell me something I don't know.

Folks, we need to take back this country...from the Republican AND Democrat servants of Big Corp. Do whatever you must, but REAL change has to happen soon. I don't want to imagine seeing more years of the same shit spewed from the Powers-That-Be.

From raping the land (mountaintop removal for coal, clearcutting, dammed rivers, oil spills, etc., etc.) to ignoring the majority of its citizens, this country cannot continue like this. It will self-destruct and bless anyone if they have to experience that.

GAR
06-09-2009, 03:24 PM
Of course they're liars! Tell me something I don't know.

Folks, we need to take back this country...from the Republican AND Democrat servants of Big Corp. Do whatever you must, but REAL change has to happen soon. I don't want to imagine seeing more years of the same shit spewed from the Powers-That-Be.

From raping the land (mountaintop removal for coal, clearcutting, dammed rivers, oil spills, etc., etc.) to ignoring the majority of its citizens, this country cannot continue like this. It will self-destruct and bless anyone if they have to experience that.

I agreed with you till you got your eco-rant on.. the only thing I can think of besides sending internet faxes to my local and state reps, is to vote for neither party to send both a message a)you're out and b)stop cheating.

Another thing I'd thought of, was to amend the constitution to guarantee all citizens the right to record their court proceedings because currently judges have that immunity, and anyone suing somebody for stupid shit gets away with keeping their face out of it.

I want the right to capture my freedom of speech in court, as well as append my trial rights to include my own court documentation and hold all parties accountable, not just rely upon what court record says or what the court reporter has documented which could be erroneous or taken erroneously.

Not having the right to take a camera to court, that's a major travesty and the law has to catch up with technology.. they cant keep it out forever.

I think alot of horseshit going on in the courts is due to lawyers and judges dodging the silver bullet of blame and it's got to end some time.

FORD
06-09-2009, 03:45 PM
Poppy Bush discusses the "stimulus package"......

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/06/0609_george_bush_bikini_girl_03_wm2.jpg
30 years ago I would have bent you over this chair and fucked you CIA style!
God damn it, somebody get Bob Dole on the line and tell him to bring me some Viagra!!!!

GAR
06-09-2009, 03:47 PM
That's a package with sagging incentive.. but since you like that stuff good on you!

BITEYOASS
06-09-2009, 11:02 PM
Poppy Bush discusses the "stimulus package"......

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/06/0609_george_bush_bikini_girl_03_wm2.jpg
30 years ago I would have bent you over this chair and fucked you CIA style!
God damn it, somebody get Bob Dole on the line and tell him to bring me some Viagra!!!!

I can't wait to piss on that fucker's grave! I'll be happy when he is dead! :mad0222: