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Guitar Shark
07-03-2009, 04:59 PM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin announced Friday that she will step down as Alaska's chief executive by the end of the month. She will not seek election to a second gubernatorial term in 2010.

"People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska," Palin said at an announcement from her home in Wasilla. "Serving her people is the greatest honor I could imagine."

Palin, a Republican, was elected governor in 2006. She was tapped as Arizona Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate last year.

Palin said she was transferring authority to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who will be sworn in at the Governor's Picnic on July 26. Watch Palin's announcement »

Palin added in a statement that she was "determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is not the easiest path. ... Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional lame duck status in this particular climate would just be another dose of politics as usual, something I campaigned against and will always oppose."

A Republican source close to her political team told CNN's John King that it was a "calculation" she made that "it was time to move on." The governor's "book deal and other issues" were "causing a lot of friction" in her home state, the source said, adding that he believes she is "mapping out a path to 2012."

Another source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Palin "thinks she has accomplished goals she has set forward. ... She sees what a positive influence she has had on people's lives from traveling the country in the last year."

Following Palin's announcement, the Democratic National Committee blasted what it called her "bizarre behavior."

"Either Sarah Palin is leaving the people of Alaska high and dry to pursue her long shot national political ambitions or she simply can't handle the job now that her popularity has dimmed and oil revenues are down," DNC spokesman Brad Woodhouse said.

"Either way, her decision to abandon her post and the people of Alaska who elected her continues a pattern of bizarre behavior that more than anything else may explain the decision she made today."

Republican strategist and CNN contributor Ed Rollins said, to a certain extent, Palin's announcement makes her look "terribly inept."

"I think everyone is shocked by this, and I think to a certain extent everyone is going to assume there's another story. You don't just quit with a year and a half to go. You certainly don't do this as a stepping stone to run for president. You finish the job that you're in, and obviously she's not doing that," he said.

"I think people are going to be very suspicious because of the timing. You don't quit on the Friday of a three-day holiday. If you are going to do this, you think it through, you give a good speech," Rollins said.

As the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, Palin had been considered one of the front-runners for the GOP nomination in 2012.

In an interview last month with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Palin said she was unsure about her re-election bid because she needed to focus on her state and her family.

"So, no decision yet on either 2010 or let alone 2012?" Blitzer asked.

"No decision that I'd want to announce today," Palin responded.

Palin catapulted on the national stage last August when McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, chose her as his running mate.

Palin stepping down this month - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/03/palin/index.html)

sadaist
07-03-2009, 05:22 PM
Definitely a surprise to me. Going to be interesting to see why she did this.

FORD
07-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Maybe Argentina ain't the only place Mark Sanford's been spending his vacations?

Hiking the Alaskan t(r)ail, maybe? :biggrin:

ULTRAMAN VH
07-03-2009, 06:09 PM
Maybe Argentina ain't the only place Mark Sanford's been spending his vacations?

Hiking the Alaskan t(r)ail, maybe? :biggrin:

I knew it would not take long for a Libby to make a derogatory statement. Dude if Palin grabbed you by the crank you would be knockin the bottom out of her, unless the rumors are true and you really are a homo.:hee: On a serious note, I think she is planning a run to dethrone King Obama. She scares the shit out of the left. They can't degrade her executive experience, which Obama has none, so they go after her with personal attacks. It will be interesting.

Guitar Shark
07-03-2009, 06:13 PM
She scares the shit out of the left.

Honestly, I think she scares the right more than the left. She is a distraction and is hurting the republican party.

FORD
07-03-2009, 06:15 PM
I knew it would not take long for a Libby to make a derogatory statement. Dude if Palin grabbed you by the crank you would be knockin the bottom out of her, unless the rumors are true and you really are a homo.:hee:

Nah, stupidity's a total turn-off for me.

Now on the other hand, Tina Fey dressed up like Moosealini, I'd definitely hit that!

ULTRAMAN VH
07-03-2009, 06:28 PM
Honestly, I think she scares the right more than the left. She is a distraction and is hurting the republican party.

I agree to a point, but it may come down to personal opinion as to whether she is a distraction or hurtful. Some say she is energizing the party.

kwame k
07-03-2009, 06:53 PM
I knew it would not take long for a Libby to make a derogatory statement. Dude if Palin grabbed you by the crank you would be knockin the bottom out of her, unless the rumors are true and you really are a homo.:hee: On a serious note, I think she is planning a run to dethrone King Obama. She scares the shit out of the left. They can't degrade her executive experience, which Obama has none, so they go after her with personal attacks. It will be interesting.

The experience debate will be out the window because Obama has more experience at the Top Executive position than she does.

She's a joke and was a novelty act for McCain's campaign. Quiting the way she did will only come back and bite her in the ass. All the bullshit she did in Alaska....Troppergate and what not will come back and bite her in the ass.

She'll never make it through the Repukes primary.

ELVIS
07-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Nah, stupidity's a total turn-off for me.

Now on the other hand, Tina Fey dressed up like Moosealini, I'd definitely hit that!

That's an odd post...

You didn't say homos turn you off, just stupidity...:biggrin:

BTW, Palin is WAY hotter that Tina Fey...


:elvis:

FORD
07-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Looks like Moosealini's been a very naughty girl, and not in the Larry Craig sense.

Embezzlement, investigations by the IRS (tax fraud?)

Looks like another potential Repuke candidate for 2012 hit the proverbial iceberg. :biggrin:

The Immoral Minority: ICEBERG!!! Three more ethics charges and an IRS scandal are headed Sarah Palin's way. Collision is unavoidable. (http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2009/06/iceberg-three-more-ethics-charges-and.html)

FORD
07-03-2009, 07:11 PM
That's an odd post...

You didn't say homos turn you off, just stupidity...:biggrin:

BTW, Palin is WAY hotter that Tina Fey...


:elvis:

Unlike you, I'm not always preoccupied with "homos". And since the subject matter was the question of Sarah Palin's fuckability, then homosexuality is only relevant for females, in this case.

ELVIS
07-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Like...what ???


:biggrin:

Dolemite!
07-03-2009, 07:33 PM
Sarah Palin has never been attractive to me. She looks creepy... maybe fingerable on occassion where you're bored.

Nickdfresh
07-03-2009, 07:46 PM
I admit she's sort of attractive. But that whiny, nasal voice coupled with the "Fargo" accent makes me cringe...

GAR
07-03-2009, 07:48 PM
Maybe the ninja assasins that are getting all the celebrities the past month have been after Sarah Palin. We sure don't wanna see her tied up unconscious in the closet with a cord wrapped round her coch.

GAR
07-03-2009, 07:49 PM
I admit she's sort of attractive. But that whiny, nasal voice coupled with the "Fargo" accent makes me cringe...

That don't give you the horn?

bueno bob
07-03-2009, 08:27 PM
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. The only real specific reason she could have for stepping down prior to the end of her term is to avoid prosecution/impeachment and all the fun stuff that goes with it. I mean, it's not any great stretch of imagination to say that she's probably guilty of abuse of office, but grandstanding to avoid Alaska's legitimate share of the stimulus checks was even frowned on by a lot of her fellow Repukes. She's hardly miss popularity anymore, even among her own fans. Shouting matches with the media hasn't done her any favors, either.

Eh. She certainly had no problem slinging shit when she was running with McCain. I guess fair's fair. She wants to be a media darling, but doesn't want any of it to be negative attention. LMAO. Welcome to America, shithead.

One thing's for sure, it's political suicide. If she's doing this thinking that she's going to get a jump on a Presidential bid on 2012...I mean, give me a fucking break...when the going gets tough, the tough quit? She's was already going to be eaten alive for a 2012 bid; shooting yourself in the foot is one thing, but lopping your legs off with a chainsaw is something else entirely. Stupid, stupid move if she thinks she's going to have any political future of any import after this. Certainly not on a national level.

Best bet is that Fox made her an offer she couldn't refuse. She's apparently been twittering that she'll release "more details soon" or something, which means she's got something in the fire. Maybe they're grooming her to replace Rush once he ODs in an effort to put an easier face to the forefront of their agenda. Who knows.

Either way, her political career will never recover from this. Which makes it a great day!

Now, if she'd just resign from life completely...

Anonymous
07-03-2009, 08:36 PM
Anybody git Palin's movie yet? A link, maybe?

Cheers! :bottle:

bueno bob
07-03-2009, 09:51 PM
Anybody git Palin's movie yet? A link, maybe?

Cheers! :bottle:

That Disney one where the hockey mom has to be President of the U.S. and settles a battle with Russia over a game of hockey?

Ashley Tisdale played her slut daughter, right?

Anonymous
07-03-2009, 09:58 PM
What? No! The proper pr0n movie. She's supposed to have one, isn't she?

Oh, and I do hope it has her daughter in it, too.

Cheers! :bottle:

GAR
07-03-2009, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if John McCain had anything to do with this, he mighta given it 6 mos before attacking Palin for upstaging him and speaking out of turn.

He's a stupid old piece of SHIT

Seshmeister
07-03-2009, 10:51 PM
She's probably taking time out to finish her first novel.

She can't wait any longer to find out where Waldo is...

FORD
07-03-2009, 11:00 PM
Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin?
by Max Blumenthal
July 3, 2009 | 7:47pm

BS Top - Blumenthal Palin Resigns AP Photo The suddenness of Sarah Palin’s resignation raises questions about whether a coming scandal caused her to leave office. Max Blumenthal looks at one possibility.

Plus: Read more of The Daily Beast's coverage of Palin's resignation and the GOP implosion.

CNN and other major news outlets have reported that Sarah Palin has abruptly resigned as governor of Alaska. The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.

Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002. The home was built just two months before Palin began campaigning for governor, a job which would have provided her enhanced power to grant building contracts in the wide-open state.

SBS has close ties to the Palins. The company has not only sponsored Todd Palin's snowmobile team, according to the Village Voice's Wayne Barrett, it hired Sarah Palin to do a statewide television commercial in 2004.

Though Todd Palin told Fox News he built his Lake Lucille home with the help of a few "buddies," according to Barrett’s report, public records revealed that SBS supplied the materials for the house. While serving as mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin blocked an initiative that would have required the public filing of building permits—thus momentarily preventing the revelation of such suspicious information.

Just months before Palin left city hall to campaign for governor, she awarded a contract to SBS to help build the $13 million Wasilla Sports Complex. The most expensive building project in Wasilla history, the complex cost the city an additional $1.3 million in legal fees and threw it into severe long-term debt. For SBS, however, the bloated and bungled project was a cash cow.

Prior to her sudden announcement, Palin gave every indication that she intended to complete her tenure as governor.

On July 1, Palin met with Alaska Senator Mark Begich to discuss funding for the missile-defense systems that would be stationed in Alaska. In May, Palin initiated a plan to circumvent the state legislature by introducing a ballot measure that would ban minors from receiving abortions without parental consent. She vowed to be the first to sign the measure event though it would not be certified until August 2010.

In a press conference today, Palin blamed the media for her demise. "You are naïve if you don't see a full-court press on the national level, picking apart a good point guard," she declared, using a basketball metaphor to refer to the flood of critical stories published about her.

On July 1, CBS reported that a story authored by me and journalist David Neiwert for Salon.com in October 2008 about Palin's ties to a secessionist political party caused her deep personal distress, and provoked a rancorous series of exchanges with her campaign manager, Steve Schmidt. Coupled with a withering profile of Palin published in the August 2009 issue of Vanity Fair, the new round of exposés may have been too much for Palin to stomach.

Palin may have resigned from politics altogether. According to NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, Palin "has told some of her biggest backers in the national Republican Party that they are free to choose other candidates for 2012." But those choices are dwindling at a surprisingly rapid pace.

Max Blumenthal is a senior writer for The Daily Beast and writing fellow at The Nation Institute. Contact him at maxblumenthal3000@yahoo.com.

Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? - The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-03/did-a-scandal-sink-the-uss-palin/?cid=hp:mainpromo2)

Blackflag
07-03-2009, 11:46 PM
Palin is irrelevant. How come you don't talk about Obama anymore?

And how come you changed your avatar from Obama to some creepy gay dude?

FORD
07-04-2009, 12:39 AM
And how come you changed your avatar from Obama to some creepy gay dude?

Ted Haggard is a creepy gay dude. Mike Malloy is the greatest talk radio host in America, and he's married with kids and grandkids, so I assume he's heterosexual.

alexpgrimes
07-04-2009, 12:42 AM
maybe she's gonna take the million dollars for that porn??? hmmmmmmmmm...

Blackflag
07-04-2009, 12:43 AM
Ted Haggard is a creepy gay dude. Mike Malloy is the greatest talk radio host in America, and he's married with kids and grandkids, so I assume he's heterosexual.

The only avatar I can think of that's creepier than yours is Eat My Asshole's.

Do you have a poster of that pedophile-looking guy in your bedroom?

Nice dodge of the Obama question, btw.

:fufu:

VanHalener
07-04-2009, 12:43 AM
I almost want Palin to be guilty of something that will land her prison so I can move to Alaska and get a job as a guard.

Good morning Sarah...

UHHHHHHHHHH!

sadaist
07-04-2009, 02:07 AM
Looks like Moosealini's been a very naughty girl, and not in the Larry Craig sense.

Embezzlement, investigations by the IRS (tax fraud?)

Looks like another potential Repuke candidate for 2012 hit the proverbial iceberg. :biggrin:



Well, if the tax fraud doesn't get her the Presidency, it should get her an Obama cabinet position.

sadaist
07-04-2009, 02:10 AM
The only avatar I can think of that's creepier than yours is Eat My Asshole's.

Do you have a poster of that pedophile-looking guy in your bedroom?

:fufu:

I agree. Malloy just looks kinda creepy in that pic. I know there's better ones of him out there. But I think Ford likes to taunt us with weird shit just for the sake of doing it. Seems no one else amuses him so he makes his own weird fun.

ELVIS
07-04-2009, 04:17 AM
Mike Malloy is the greatest talk radio host in America

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha........:biggrin:

LoungeMachine
07-04-2009, 06:49 AM
Well, if the tax fraud doesn't get her the Presidency, it should get her an Obama cabinet position.

:lmao:

Direct hit.

Well played.

LoungeMachine
07-04-2009, 06:51 AM
. Mike Malloy is the greatest talk radio host in America,

.

Um, no...

Thom Hartmann is.

Mike has become the Left's Hannitybaugh unfortunetly.

:gulp:

Still like him, though.......

LoungeMachine
07-04-2009, 06:53 AM
I think she is planning a run to dethrone King Obama. She scares the shit out of the left.


:lmao:

God you're a fucking idiot.

She doesnt scare us, moron. She makes us laugh. She cost the old coot the election stupid simp.






They can't degrade her executive experience, .

:lmao:

Are you really this dense?

ULTRAMAN VH
07-04-2009, 08:57 AM
:lmao:

God you're a fucking idiot.

She doesnt scare us, moron. She makes us laugh. She cost the old coot the election stupid simp.




:lmao:

Are you really this dense?

So let me get this straight Lounge Queen. You are stating that if McCain had picked a different running mate, say a Romney or Huckabee, he would have defeated The Messiah? I always knew deep down you were a republican.;)

knuckleboner
07-04-2009, 10:19 AM
So let me get this straight Lounge Queen. You are stating that if McCain had picked a different running mate, say a Romney or Huckabee, he would have defeated The Messiah? I always knew deep down you were a republican.;)

obama won way too big for palin to have made the difference. with a more credible VP pick, mccain could've closed some of the vote totals, but he had no chance.


and palin's done.

democrats wouldn't have voted for her no matter what. and fairly or unfairly, the "she's an idiot" label would've stuck for most independents.

and then there's this. during the country's worst recession since WWII, she quits. two years as mayor of podunk, alaska and then an abortive first term as alaskan governor. yeah, she's a GREAT candidate in 2012.

i think i can see irrelevance from my house, and it looks a lot like sarah palin, you betcha.

Big Train
07-04-2009, 11:56 AM
I agree with Bueno Bob, it's some sort of charge she will have to fight. Something she will ultimately get away with. She has been dogged (go for it guys, easy pitch) by ethics charges. They are clearly gunning for her. She has been cleared of ethics wrongdoing 15 times now. It's dishonest to say the Dems aren't concerned with her at all, nor is it honest to say the Republicans don't blame her for their loss.

Stepping down is a bad move. You can't trump your executive experience over a guy who has none (as often as he may display this trait), if you yourself never completed a single term.

She will end up pulling a Ron Paul. She will go away for awhile, pretend to endorse Republicans, settle the charges, make some money on books or whatever. The she will suddenly announce "No more politics as usual" and be a third party candidate. Which in itself will be a major change. She won't win but she will triple Ron Paul's numbers, which is a win.

She would have my vote if she pulled in enough numbers to get an independent party federal matching funds. Which would make us harder to ignore come debate time.

sadaist
07-04-2009, 01:16 PM
She doesnt scare us, moron. She makes us laugh. She cost the old coot the election stupid simp.



Well, I agree she didn't help McCains cause at all. But the campaign mistake that really stands out in my mind is when he suspended his campaign to "fix the economy". /cringe

Kristy
07-04-2009, 02:27 PM
The only real specific reason she could have for stepping down prior to the end of her term is to avoid prosecution/impeachment and all the fun stuff that goes with it...She certainly had no problem slinging shit when she was running with McCain.

For a long time the Rethuglicans have been keeping the lid on Palin being in the crosshairs of several ethic committee investigations so anyone's best guess could be for her resignation is that they found some serious dirt under those manicured fingernails of hers. The GOP itself operates on a hierarchy and those on the top who make people like Palin or Steele out to be tools for America's stupidity in order to gain power will surely drop them faster then what they can groom them. Maybe she took under-the-table money from lobbyists and therefore never claimed it to the IRS. Who knows? Rumor also has it she is hot on the heels of signing a estimated $7 million book deal and as an elected official you cannot take money from outside sources other than the salary of your job (this is why Arnie hasn't made a movie in years).

To me she is the biggest failure of the GOP (next to Steele) used solely as a tool to become ingrained for the popular female vote when Hilary wisely dropped out. And much like the GOP itself she offered nothing but political discourse and hostile rhetoric; not once did she ever take on a topic that concerned women unless it was already scripted for her. McCain may have gotten his rocks off on her whole quasi-femdom power trip approach to criticizing Obama but soon it became self-evident she was one-trick pony even when she traded in her Alaskan hick flannel wear for Dolce & Gabanna making herself over as wanting to be taken seriously.

Give this a little time and by the end of the summer you know something is bound to come out of the woodwork on Plain's self-interest activities that she hasn't already been called out for. Wonder if she can see Putin's house from prison.

sadaist
07-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Wonder if she can see Putin's house from prison.

Prison no....Gulag yes.



Sorry, I just like that word :)

FORD
07-04-2009, 02:45 PM
She will end up pulling a Ron Paul. She will go away for awhile, pretend to endorse Republicans, settle the charges, make some money on books or whatever. The she will suddenly announce "No more politics as usual" and be a third party candidate. Which in itself will be a major change. She won't win but she will triple Ron Paul's numbers, which is a win.

She would have my vote if she pulled in enough numbers to get an independent party federal matching funds. Which would make us harder to ignore come debate time.

But do you really think the "Alaskan Independence Party (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&oi=video_result&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZwv PNXYrIyI&ei=wKJPSteOHpP2sQOcmeGqDQ&usg=AFQjCNHqGtlLYqynrVr5Sh2BOLKVYDxetg&sig2=DiX2zlTNE06MHO9GWVYDAQ)" will get many votes in the lower 48? :biggrin:

Nickdfresh
07-04-2009, 07:17 PM
Do you think they'll get many votes in Alaska? Where else would they get their welfare?

bueno bob
07-04-2009, 09:06 PM
Apparently now she's left office due to a "higher calling"...which must be either Fox News or as Rush's impending replacement, because her political career is certainly fucked for life. "Reinventing herself" and emerging to unify the shattered Republican party is a fucking pipe dream for disenfranchised conservatives to be able to lull themselves to sleep with every night, she's sure as fuck not getting a 2012 run. I'm sure she'll make a great "entertainer" though.

Worst financial crisis in Alaska's history, and Super Sarah to the rescue...or not...

Even if she was going to be stupid enough to attempt a run at office in 2012, the first thing she'd have to do is move down to the lower states, Alaska's an impossible place to run a campaign from. She'd lose a day traveling to the lower states and anyone campaigning against her would be able to exploit that very well.

Of course, if she leaves Alaska any time in the near future, she's going to be even easier to paint as a "Cut 'n' Run" politician. Not that she isn't now, but it just makes the job easier to destroy her on the campaign trail if such a thing happens.

Amazing, though - she went from relative obscurity to the national stage, fucked McCain's campaign even worse than it already was, whored herself to the media and then whined that the media was unfair to her.

Seriously, she's the fucking Britney Spears of politics...everybody watching her just to see what stupid fucking thing she'll do next. No wonder most relatively sane dittoheads are trying to distance themselves from her. It's the only rational thing to do. The Republican party is completely without a face or any direction (so much so that it even tried out Rush Limbaugh as its default leader for Christs sake) and Sarah Palin flailing around certainly doesn't help matters for them any.

Actually it reminds me of McCain's "Leaving the campaign to fix the economy"...just another fucking Republican publicity stunt that does absolutely NOTHING to fix matters wrong with the U.S.

It's all about media face time, I guess.

Sad thing about it all? Had the Republicans actually opted to work WITH the current administration about half of the problems we're facing, rather than whacking his hand with a stick every time he tried, we'd probably have made a lot more progress by now.

But what else do you expect out of the "No" party?

On the plus side, at least I finally got some tax breaks. Not much for starters but at least I'm not ending every month now thinking to myself "Fuck, if I only had $1200.00 more..."

Blackflag
07-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Sad thing about it all? Had the Republicans actually opted to work WITH the current administration about half of the problems we're facing, rather than whacking his hand with a stick every time he tried, we'd probably have made a lot more progress by now.

Yeah, that's why the country is circling the drain...because the president just isn't getting enough support. :mad0244:

Seriously, is there anything more irrelevant to talk about than what the governor of Alaska is doing right now? A month from now, none of us will even be able to name him/her. Fuck.

sadaist
07-04-2009, 11:57 PM
...anyone campaigning against her would be able to exploit that very well.

...easier to paint as a "Cut 'n' Run" politician.

...easier to destroy her on the campaign trail if such a thing happens.

...watching her just to see what stupid fucking thing she'll do next.




Exploit, Paint, Destroy?


If the Dems run a candidate with good ideas and a solid track record of implementation, none of the above tactics will be necessary.

ELVIS
07-05-2009, 06:50 AM
Dems don't run on "good ideas."

Nickdfresh
07-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Dems don't run on "good ideas."

You mean like pretending to want to reduce the size of gov't while actually expanding it?

bueno bob
07-05-2009, 12:30 PM
Exploit, Paint, Destroy?

If the Dems run a candidate with good ideas and a solid track record of implementation, none of the above tactics will be necessary.

Actually, I was talking about her fellow Republicans that will be gunning for 2012 as well. The Democrats will probably get behind Obama again, I'd imagine.

bueno bob
07-05-2009, 12:32 PM
Yeah, that's why the country is circling the drain...because the president just isn't getting enough support. :mad0244:

Well, Republicans were certainly approached to assist with the problems facing the country. Of course, the crusade to paint Obama as a socialist took precedence, but I'm sure that's very important right now.

sadaist
07-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Actually, I was talking about her fellow Republicans that will be gunning for 2012 as well. The Democrats will probably get behind Obama again, I'd imagine.

I know. I was just making a post on all of it in general. Rather than a guy saying "here's what I can do and how & why I can do it"...they are much more likely to say "well, the other guy cheated on his wife, smoked marijuana, and kicked his dog once". And then they wonder why turnout at the polls is so low.

How much money is wasted with a candidate trying to hide something stupid they did in the past or trying to dig up something stupid their opponent did? When you try to wrap your mind around how tabloid and dirty it's all become it really makes you kinda sick.

Big Train
07-05-2009, 01:50 PM
But do you really think the she will get many votes in the lower 48? :biggrin:

I do actually. I don't think she will do it with either major political party though. She will get the vote from women who see both parties as sexist (and there is plenty of evidence against both). No matter what you think of those voters (I know you don't think much of them), they are a big enough voting block to triple Ron Paul's numbers, which is all that's needed to get a third party going at least, which would be my goal and would get my vote. The two party system is fucked and it's very much time to change that.

Big Train
07-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Yeah, that's why the country is circling the drain...because the president just isn't getting enough support. :mad0244:


Well then he better look to his own supermajority first. He doesn't need the Republicans. He needs the Dems to be in lockstep, which as far as I can tell they are.

Kristy
07-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Seriously, is there anything more irrelevant to talk about than what the governor of Alaska is doing right now?


Probably not.

This is, if anything, Rethuglican damage control so they can bullshit their party back into relevance in 2012. Not gonna happen though no matter how much they toss words like "European socialism" around. The Rethugs are going to have to re-invent themselves from the inside out if they are hoping to have a say in well...anything. This would entail dumping (as in completely) their association with the whacked Christian Right, distancing themselves from Right-Wing talk show/radio pundits and come up with better ideas that actually work instead blaming every failure on liberals (or being liberal).

Palin was a tool. Nothing more. Nothing less. She was a hollow shell from the beginning and now the cracks are showing and even she cannot wiggle herself out the mess the GOP is constantly finding itself in. To call it quits half-way through your elected term does seem a bit bizarre; her choice to step down didn't seem to come off as being unilateral just from the demeanor of her press conference. So if the hierarchy of the GOP is pulling the strings of their (elected) governors/senators I find that to be a little scary in some ways.

hideyoursheep
07-05-2009, 10:55 PM
Run for President?


:lol:


She isn't bright enough to be a first lady!

damngoodtimes
07-06-2009, 01:10 AM
the only thing that would make any sense to me would be for her to somehow turn this into a run for the AK Senate seat that's up in 2010. if she wants to be taken seriously on a national stage, a second term as Alaska's governor won't help. She needs to be in the lower 48, specifically DC.

perhaps she'll spin this into the notion that she didn't want her campaign to intefere with running the state. See if the Alaskans will buy it.

if she's smart, she'll sit out the '12 race and try to make a name for herself in the Senate. run in '16 after a full six year term, or, if the GOP beats Obama in '12, she can wait until '20 (she'll only be 56 then). I don't think her ego will allow her to be that patient.

otherwise, I can't figure out what she's up to.

bueno bob
07-06-2009, 02:14 AM
the only thing that would make any sense to me would be for her to somehow turn this into a run for the AK Senate seat that's up in 2010. if she wants to be taken seriously on a national stage, a second term as Alaska's governor won't help. She needs to be in the lower 48, specifically DC.

perhaps she'll spin this into the notion that she didn't want her campaign to intefere with running the state. See if the Alaskans will buy it.

if she's smart, she'll sit out the '12 race and try to make a name for herself in the Senate. run in '16 after a full six year term, or, if the GOP beats Obama in '12, she can wait until '20 (she'll only be 56 then). I don't think her ego will allow her to be that patient.

otherwise, I can't figure out what she's up to.

Maybe by that point she'll have learned something.

Won't hold my breath though.

Satan
07-06-2009, 03:02 AM
Well then he better look to his own supermajority first. He doesn't need the Republicans. He needs the Dems to be in lockstep, which as far as I can tell they are.

No they aren't. There's about a dozen fake Demoncrats in the Senate and even more than that in the House that simply refuse to ACT like Demoncrats.

And with Spineless Harry Reid and Jellyfish Pelosi being the supposed "leaders" of these factions, nobody is telling these goddamn tools to do their jobs.

Or at least not anyone that actually has access to speak to the treasonous fucks.

Kristy
07-06-2009, 02:30 PM
There was a vague news story that I heard this morning that Palin hired an attorney to go after anyone who blogs anything derogatory about her. If this is true you know it's only going to bite her in the ass if she decides to run for anything in 2012.

Satan
07-06-2009, 03:00 PM
For those who haven't actually seen Moosealini's "farewell speech" it's something to behold.

The Chimp himself couldn't have done a better job of creating a verbal train wreck. I'm seriously considering adding this entire speech to Hell's Eternal Multimedia Torture Jukebox.......

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Even the goddamn DUCKS were heckling her. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

standin
07-06-2009, 04:39 PM
I think of this song ......................................
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sadaist
07-06-2009, 04:53 PM
One thing I don't like about Palin is she always tries to be facetious & cutesy in her speeches with that little wink in her eye. Whether it's the media she's talking about, Obama, other Dems, whatever. It really bugs the hell out of me. Like she's talking down to us. If something is upsetting you, just say it. Be mad. Don't beat around the bush and try to get your point across with little hints & touches of sarcasm. Pet peeve of mine.

Nickdfresh
07-06-2009, 10:06 PM
One thing I don't like about Palin is she always tries to be facetious & cutesy in her speeches with that little wink in her eye. Whether it's the media she's talking about, Obama, other Dems, whatever. It really bugs the hell out of me. Like she's talking down to us. If something is upsetting you, just say it. Be mad. Don't beat around the bush and try to get your point across with little hints & touches of sarcasm. Pet peeve of mine.


It's pretty annoying when someone that isn't very smart talks down to one...

Big Train
07-07-2009, 02:58 AM
No they aren't. There's about a dozen fake Demoncrats in the Senate and even more than that in the House that simply refuse to ACT like Demoncrats.

And with Spineless Harry Reid and Jellyfish Pelosi being the supposed "leaders" of these factions, nobody is telling these goddamn tools to do their jobs.

Or at least not anyone that actually has access to speak to the treasonous fucks.

Well this is what you get when you have that moment before the election where they tell you that your "throwing your vote away". Even with a supermajority there are "treasonous fucks" about wasting a clear path. If there was a legitimate third party, some of those members could agree or disagree as they saw fit and clear the logjam to actually ACCOMPLISH something. I hope you remember this next election cycle.

In the meantime, focus all your hatred toward "treasonous fucks", as the Republicans don't really matter and you really can't blame them. They are doing what they do. These "fucks" are wasting the opportunity your man Barry O has been given. With things the way they are, this window will not last very long.

ELVIS
07-07-2009, 03:07 AM
I dunno...

If she's honest and stepped down from her position as Governor for a "higher calling" and actually attempts to shed some light and truth, I might consider voting for her...but that could be signing her death warrant...

If she gets a show on Faux News and becomes a celebrity with books and documentaries, and is suddenly shot into the limelight, i'll pass...


:elvis:

letsrock
07-07-2009, 10:18 AM
I dunno...

If she's honest and stepped down from her position as Governor for a "higher calling" and actually attempts to shed some light and truth, I might consider voting for her...but that could be signing her death warrant...

If she gets a show on Faux News and becomes a celebrity with books and documentaries, and is suddenly shot into the limelight, i'll pass...


:elvis:

This is all a money move.
And the fact that elected officials cannot criticize citizens.

Nitro Express
07-07-2009, 01:45 PM
After all the media attention she got running with McCain, being a little ol' governor is boring to her. She wants to be in the limelight more and run for the presidency in 2012. By then the country will be in a real quagmire with the Democrats failing miserably in fixing the economic problems. Both former Republicans and Democrats will be looking for real leadership and not the typical Republicrat fodder of the past. Nobody is going to want Sarah Palin and the novelty of a minority winning the presidency has happened with Obama. Now nobody will give a rat's ass about a woman becoming president.

People are going to be looking for a real leader to get us out of the economic mess and get our freedom we have lost back after four years of being squeezed hard.

Nitro Express
07-07-2009, 01:52 PM
We all knew Billary would run for President but nobody knew who Barrack Obama was in 2004. That guy wasn't even on the radar. I thought Hillary would be the new president since she was backed by the big Rockefeller money. Possibly the next president will be someone we never have heard of. 3 1/2 years is a long time and the circus will begin soon enough with Palin being one of the main clowns.

Nitro Express
07-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Basically Alaska's energy resources makes it easily the richest state in the union. That means, Alaska has the wealth to make lot's of mistakes and has the resources so even a dolt like Sarah Palin can run it. In other words. When you have money, you can afford a few idiots like Sarah Palin. A far cry from running a broke Federal govt facing rampant inflation and a huge trade deficit.

FORD
07-07-2009, 02:07 PM
It's amazing that Moosealini ran around all over the country last year accusing the Democrats of being "socialists", when she was the governor of the ONLY state that actually practices socialism - government owned oil resources, with money paid back to the Alaskan people.

Not to mention the "socialist" bailouts for corporations that she and other Repukes don't seem to have a problem with.

Nitro Express
07-07-2009, 02:08 PM
Probably not.

This is, if anything, Rethuglican damage control so they can bullshit their party back into relevance in 2012. Not gonna happen though no matter how much they toss words like "European socialism" around. The Rethugs are going to have to re-invent themselves from the inside out if they are hoping to have a say in well...anything. This would entail dumping (as in completely) their association with the whacked Christian Right, distancing themselves from Right-Wing talk show/radio pundits and come up with better ideas that actually work instead blaming every failure on liberals (or being liberal).

Palin was a tool. Nothing more. Nothing less. She was a hollow shell from the beginning and now the cracks are showing and even she cannot wiggle herself out the mess the GOP is constantly finding itself in. To call it quits half-way through your elected term does seem a bit bizarre; her choice to step down didn't seem to come off as being unilateral just from the demeanor of her press conference. So if the hierarchy of the GOP is pulling the strings of their (elected) governors/senators I find that to be a little scary in some ways.

Palin was brought in because that black guy might just win the presidency. God Damn it! We need a Mexican, a woman. God Damn it! We need somebody on board to give this black guy some competition! Gee. That woman governor up in Alaska was a beauty queen. Let's get her.:biggrin: Now the beauty queen believes her own bullshit.

We actually have a one party system. The Republicrat Party. There really isn't much difference. Obama's foreign policy is no different than Bush's but Democrats tend to want to control everything more on the domestic side. Both spend like drunken sailors in a whore house.

Nitro Express
07-07-2009, 02:13 PM
The big corporate, banking, and pharmacutical money backs both parties. They bet on all the horses in the race. Then we watch the greedy jockeys (politicians) duke it out with each other over who gets the power seat.

Kristy
07-07-2009, 03:52 PM
That woman governor up in Alaska was a beauty queen.

Ex beauty queen GOP reformed tool turned media whore. In retrospect she loves the camera simply because it's the only thing in her life she can't fuck up.

ELVIS
07-07-2009, 06:33 PM
The big corporate, banking, and pharmacutical money backs both parties.

No, along with the Military industrial complex, they OWN them, as well as politicians all over the world...


:elvis:

Nickdfresh
07-07-2009, 07:02 PM
Ex beauty queen GOP reformed tool turned media whore. In retrospect she loves the camera simply because it's the only thing in her life she can't fuck up.

You forgot empty-headed sportscaster....

ZahZoo
07-08-2009, 09:09 AM
Would many of you dish out the same type of criticism and bullshit if she weren't female?

Any politician deserves being under the microscope... but I sense a certain lack of objectivity with the gender crap being thrown about.

Seshmeister
07-08-2009, 10:10 AM
WTF Zahzoo you're an old old guy do you not remember Dan Quayle?

He got tons of shit and he's a rocket scientist compared to Palin.

Nickdfresh
07-08-2009, 10:55 AM
Would many of you dish out the same type of criticism and bullshit if she weren't female?

Any politician deserves being under the microscope... but I sense a certain lack of objectivity with the gender crap being thrown about.

How far do you think she would have gotten is she weren't a female? She would be laughed off as Quayle-lite is she were a guy. Please, I'm so tired of the phony, "sexism" cliche...

Nickdfresh
07-08-2009, 10:56 AM
WTF Zahzoo you're an old old guy do you not remember Dan Quayle?

He got tons of shit and he's a rocket scientist compared to Palin.

Ha! Great minds...

hideyoursheep
07-09-2009, 04:45 AM
If she weren't a she, she more than likely wouldn't have ever been Furher of Alaska.

Now every government office up there has an 8X10 of :wanker: material!

ZahZoo
07-09-2009, 09:10 AM
WTF Zahzoo you're an old old guy do you not remember Dan Quayle?

He got tons of shit and he's a rocket scientist compared to Palin.

Now that you remind old me... I do remember Quayle. There was a time and tradition of selecting a VP that followed the old recipe for great comedy routines... straightman and a whacky side-kick in the spirit of Abbot & Costello/George & Gracey, etc... It had a good balancing/entertainment effect on the white house. Carter/Ford, Regan/Bush (they swapped roles at times), Clinton/Gore was a classic... and I see Obama/Biden shaping up nicely...

So from that perspective you're right about the target of shit and mental challenges.

I guess being a dad of 3 daughters and a grampa of a grand-daughter I've come to see some of the not so blatent sexism that gets veiled as kidding or masked criticism. If any of them amount to something in life it would piss me off to no end to hear some of the gender crap folks spew about and diminish any success they've achieved as being some token woman rather than a person who accomplished things on their own merit/work.

Given all the things surounding Palin... she couldn't have gotten to where she's at just being a pretty face with a folksy personality. She also had to have some smarts, leadership and drive/motivation to accomplish the things she has... I don't see many people extending any respect for that. Soapbox mode=off...

Seshmeister
07-09-2009, 09:42 AM
I guess being a dad of 3 daughters and a grampa of a grand-daughter I've come to see some of the not so blatent sexism that gets veiled as kidding or masked criticism.

Being the dad of 3 daughters has made me sexist.

All these manipulative nagging girls around me... :)

Guitar Shark
07-09-2009, 11:25 AM
I guess being a dad of 3 daughters and a grampa of a grand-daughter I've come to see some of the not so blatent sexism that gets veiled as kidding or masked criticism. If any of them amount to something in life it would piss me off to no end to hear some of the gender crap folks spew about and diminish any success they've achieved as being some token woman rather than a person who accomplished things on their own merit/work.

Given all the things surounding Palin... she couldn't have gotten to where she's at just being a pretty face with a folksy personality. She also had to have some smarts, leadership and drive/motivation to accomplish the things she has... I don't see many people extending any respect for that. Soapbox mode=off...

I hope you've never said anything negative about Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi, because gosh darn, that would just be sexism!

Kristy
07-09-2009, 12:21 PM
Would many of you dish out the same type of criticism and bullshit if she weren't female?


I would. This isn't about gender as much as it is professional ineptitude. Personally, I can't see this woman being qualified to run anything expect her rhetoric in front of a camera lens.

letsrock
07-09-2009, 12:22 PM
people in Alaska are better off.

letsrock
07-09-2009, 12:23 PM
When does she sign her book deal and TV show deal?

Terry
07-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Her poll numbers re: favorability among Alaskans, which were at 80% in June of 2008, are now below 50%. If anything, her resignation headed off what would have quite possibly have been a defeat had she stuck around long enough to run for re-election, and said defeat would have killed whatever chances she had in 2012 (which, realistically, are slim-to-none regardless).
She certainly has the ability to energize a PORTION of the GOP base, but her appeal outside of that fraction (and outside of the party) is minimal at best.

Terry
07-10-2009, 11:14 PM
I would. This isn't about gender as much as it is professional ineptitude. Personally, I can't see this woman being qualified to run anything expect her rhetoric in front of a camera lens.

In the end, that's really what it came down to for me. The woman clearly had little to no intellectual curiousness (in fact, she seemed proud of what she didn't know) and rationalized things like the Iraq war as being part of "God's will." A combination of mental laziness, an unquestioning dogmatic approach towards ideas and a rigid religious posture that weren't high on my list of favorable characteristics for someone to be a heartbeat away.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2009, 10:01 AM
Sarah Palin "Doesn't Understand Cap and Trade. (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/sarah-palin-does-not-understand-cap-and-trade.html)," yet shoots her mouth off in a Washington Post op-ed...:)

ELVIS
07-14-2009, 10:20 AM
Well, since Cap and Trade is part of the Global Warming hoax, what do you want her to say ??

Big Train
07-14-2009, 10:39 AM
The author of that piece, short of citing the Congressional Budget Office (who are known far and wide for their accuracy) provides no backup for his contentions that we will be so much better off with cap and trade. Ditto getting your GDP projections from the EPA. Pot and Kettle in that situation.

Speaking of not understanding it, most of the Democratic members of Congress who voted for it did not read it. They couldn't. With the 3AM additions, there were only two copies available. One John Boehner had. The one that gave Waxman fits when it was read out loud.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2009, 10:41 AM
The author of that piece, short of citing the Congressional Budget Office (who are known far and wide for their accuracy) provides no backup for his contentions that we will be so much better off with cap and trade. Ditto getting your GDP projections from the EPA. Pot and Kettle in that situation.

Speaking of not understanding it, most of the Democratic members of Congress who voted for it did not read it. They couldn't. With the 3AM additions, there were only two copies available. One John Boehner had. The one that gave Waxman fits when it was read out loud.

Right. I thought everyone knew that dumping reams of pollution into the environment had no social nor economic costs...

Big Train
07-14-2009, 10:43 AM
Right. Just like everyone knows signing legislation without having any idea what's in it has no cost either.

ELVIS
07-14-2009, 10:50 AM
Not to forget that carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen is...

Nickdfresh
07-14-2009, 11:00 AM
Not to forget that carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen is...

Start your car in the garage with the door closed, and listen to Michael Jackson on the stereo for a while:


What are the health effects of CO2 poisoning?

Occupants may experience health effects in buildings where CO2 is elevated, but the symptoms are usually due to the other contaminants in the air that also build up as a result of insufficient ventilation. At high levels, the carbon dioxide itself can cause headache, dizziness, nausea and other symptoms. This could occur when exposed to levels above 5,000 ppm for many hours. At even higher levels of CO2 can cause asphyxiation as it replaces oxygen in the blood--exposure to concentrations around 40,000 ppm is immediately dangerous to life and health. CO2 poisoning, however, is very rare.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2): Environmental Health in Minnesota (http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/co2/index.html)

Nickdfresh
07-14-2009, 11:01 AM
Right. Just like everyone knows signing legislation without having any idea what's in it has no cost either.

Actually, they've done projections and studies. You just choose to ignore them and play "Caveman Lawyer."

ELVIS
07-14-2009, 11:01 AM
Lmao!

Big Train
07-14-2009, 01:20 PM
Actually, they've done projections and studies. You just choose to ignore them and play "Caveman Lawyer."

You mean the senators who will vote on legislation that they have not seen, read or thought about at all have read the studies and projections too?

You just choose to ignore that and play "Syncopant Lawyer".

LoungeMachine
07-14-2009, 01:38 PM
You mean the senators who will vote on legislation that they have not seen, read or thought about at all have read the studies and projections too?

You just choose to ignore that and play "Syncopant Lawyer".

Syncopant?

wha?

:lmao:

FORD
07-14-2009, 02:01 PM
Not to forget that carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen is...

...if you're a plant. And I'm not talking about Zeppelin's singer.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2009, 02:02 PM
I admit it. I synchronize my pants using update Garanimals technology...http://populuxebooks.com/blog/media/garanimals.jpg

Seshmeister
07-14-2009, 02:43 PM
Well, since Cap and Trade is part of the Global Warming hoax, what do you want her to say ??

"I've finally realised I'm as thick as shit and you won't see me again as I will be spending the next 40 years reading."

Seshmeister
07-14-2009, 02:50 PM
Not to forget that carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than oxygen is...

Why do you keep posting that?

I don't think you understand the climate change argument never mind the proof.

Big Train
07-14-2009, 02:51 PM
Syncopant?

wha?

:lmao:

Lol...never argue on your way out the door early in the morning. Oddly though, it does sound about right for some reason..

Big Train
07-14-2009, 02:52 PM
I admit it. I synchronize my pants using update Garanimals technology...http://populuxebooks.com/blog/media/garanimals.jpg

Touche...

BITEYOASS
07-14-2009, 04:29 PM
Now this is fuckin hilarious!

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thome
07-14-2009, 07:48 PM
I keep waiting just like the rest of you RATS! for the why governers "leave office" typical headlines.



Palin admits to Homosexuall affair!
Governor found with dobbie and in the arms of another woman!

letsrock
07-15-2009, 12:31 PM
So is she out of office or is there a certain date that is in the planning?