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Full Bug
07-24-2009, 08:31 AM
RANDY RHOADS: Last Train Home Documentary - Official Trailer Online
Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009

Director Peter M. Margolis and Dakota Films, with cooperation from the Rhoads family, are working on the long awaited documentary film on the life of celebrated rock guitarist RANDY RHOADS. Creators have issued the following update:

"As many of you know, in March of 2007, Director Peter Margolis began filming a documentary about Randy Rhoads.

Although the film is not finished, a trailer to that documentary was recently leaked. It was on the internet, for a day or two, then pulled. Apparently, Margolis did not have clearance for all of the images on the trailer and threatened to halt production of the film, if the trailer was not removed. The trailer has resurfaced and you can watch it (below)!"

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Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 09:03 AM
That's a hell of a long trailer.

Some of those people haven't aged too well, rocket science's loss was musics gain. :)

Looks like he has interviewed absolutely everyone apart from the Osbournes...

indeedido
07-24-2009, 09:19 AM
where is that live footage? It looks and sounds great, why has it not been released?

Panamark
07-24-2009, 09:23 AM
Cant wait to see the whole video...
The Blizzard of Ozz band is timeless.
Diary and Blizzard still bring the chills, all these
years later...

Its great to see somebody documenting one of the
best guitarists of our time. He deserves ongoing
legacy.

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 09:28 AM
where is that live footage? It looks and sounds great, why has it not been released?

Maybe it's just very short segments recorded for local TV news...

Va Beach VH Fan
07-24-2009, 09:45 AM
Wow. That looks fantastic....

Sometimes I agree with those that have said that Randy has become a sorta martyr because of his death....

That Randy vs. Eddie segment was very interesting as well....

jhale667
07-24-2009, 09:50 AM
I for one can't wait to see this. Kevin Dubrow declined involvement in the project (his reasons seemed genuine), but I'm still interested to see how it turned out.

atomicpunk5151
07-24-2009, 10:51 AM
I for one can't wait to see this. Kevin Dubrow declined involvement in the project (his reasons seemed genuine), but I'm still interested to see how it turned out.

Wooda from DDLR also mentioned he was contacted but turned them down.

I have been following the progress of this movie for a few years over at:

randyrhoads.tk (http://www.randyrhoads.tk) and Ultimate Rhoads :: Index (http://www.ultimaterhoads.com/)

It has been pretty interesting.

I really hope that we get to see a good movie when it is all said and done.

atomicpunk5151
07-24-2009, 11:08 AM
After watching the trailer, it looks like he got some Pro-shot LIVE footage from a concert in 1982 with Ozzy. I would guess he doesn't have clearance for that. Let's just say that their is NO proshot concert footage with Randy from the 82 tour that currently circulates, even in bootleg circles. That is pretty much the "Holy Grail" for people looking for video. He also had the "After Hours" footage in there, that is pretty common. He didn't have the grainy audience shot footage from Chicago 82, might not have had clearence for that either.


Also at the end it doesn't list Ozzy or Sharon in the interviews. The director was trying pretty hard last year to schedule interviews so I am not sure what happened there?

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 11:30 AM
The director was trying pretty hard last year to schedule interviews so I am not sure what happened there?

I would guess the fat money whore happened.

atomicpunk5151
07-24-2009, 11:38 AM
After reading a bit more, it seems there is some pretty negative feeling now between the director Margolis and the Rhoads family with the leak of this trailer.

Also a big deal is the Pro Shot LIVE footage from 81-82 that is totally "Unreleased" at this point. The story goes it was filmed by the Osbourne camp and stolen from then manager Don Arden. I would guess the Osbourne's would have a huge problem if they weren't in on this.

Who knows if this film will even get released at this point. Sounds like they are also short on $$ as well.

Seems the directors contract with Delores Rhoads ends in April 2010, so maybe after that?

jhale667
07-24-2009, 01:58 PM
Interesting post on the RR tribute Facebook page:

It seems that the Peter Margolis Randy Rhoads ten Minute Trailer has resurfaced on certain sites.I spoke with Peter this morning and he is not happy about this.Once again I remind everybody Please Please Please DO NOT POST ANY LINKS TO THE TRAILER HERE.IT IS NOT ALLOWED AND LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS COULD FOLLOW FROM DAKKOTA PICTURES if it is found posted.Thank you

rocknrolldork
07-24-2009, 02:57 PM
I hope the movie does come out. It looks great.

Full Bug
07-24-2009, 07:11 PM
Damm, its just a documentary, and a good one by the looks of it, all this legal crap is so petty, but not surprising....

Terry
07-24-2009, 08:11 PM
Looks like it will be worthwhile to see (presuming it gets released). Mostly because, outside of the mentioned "After Hours" tv show footage, there's really fairly little footage of Rhoads out there...or at least not as much that is as easy to obtain as, say, CVH boots.

Bit of a bummer that DuBrow and Ozzy didn't participate, but from the looks of the trailer, there's more than enough musicians and people who actually played with and knew Rhoads to provide ample commentary. Wonder if Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake participated...

Panamark
07-24-2009, 08:17 PM
If it was Warner Brothers behind this, we would have already received our legal notice
after your post, Bug ! - No shit......
If footage does belong to Sharon, then immediately you feel this wont be coming
out anytime soon...
Crying shame if thats the case. That trailer looks great.

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 08:35 PM
Bit of a bummer that DuBrow and Ozzy didn't participate, but from the looks of the trailer, there's more than enough musicians and people who actually played with and knew Rhoads to provide ample commentary. Wonder if Bob Daisley and Lee Kerslake participated...

Still it would have been good to hear how Randy managed to maneuver Sharons fat ass into position for penetration in the limted room of a tour bus.

And just how drunk was he?

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/images/stories/exposed/Osbournes/SharonOzzy234.jpg

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/images/stories/exposed/Osbournes/SharonOzzy3452.jpg

Panamark
07-24-2009, 08:54 PM
I reckon Sharon made that one up for her own self indulgence...
*shudders*

FORD
07-24-2009, 10:34 PM
Fucking NaziTube yanked it :(

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 10:49 PM
I reckon Sharon made that one up for her own self indulgence...
*shudders*

Sharon had two great skills back in the day.

Finding great guitarists and finding great plastic surgeons.

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Fucking NaziTube yanked it :(

Bit harsh FORD.

It was a full 10 minutes and they haven't even released the thing yet.

ppg960
07-24-2009, 11:22 PM
Bit harsh FORD.

It was a full 10 minutes and they haven't even released the thing yet.

I agree somewhat but Youtube is alot of BS. Too many ads there too.
Youporn on the other hand..................:biggrin:

FORD
07-24-2009, 11:29 PM
Bit harsh FORD.

It was a full 10 minutes and they haven't even released the thing yet.

But this is exactly the type of thing that You Tube SHOULD be used for. The guy had free advertising circulating all over the world for a film that would otherwise be unknown. I consider myself a fan of Randy's work, and this is the first I've heard of the film being made.

And being a low budget documentary, I'm guessing Margolis ain't going to have a huge promotional budget, and you won't see trailers for this film playing down at the local multiplex. He's just fucking himself by yanking it.

Seshmeister
07-24-2009, 11:30 PM
He's just fucking himself by yanking it.

A good trick if you can manage it... :)

atomicpunk5151
07-25-2009, 02:06 AM
cough.....cough......

another link......

Randy Rhoads Documentary Trailer Video by Romeo Rose - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=61002152)

There is a guy at UltimateRhoads (Romeorose) that got the footage from a Dakota Films employee. He keeps reposting it.

By the way the UNRELEASED Proshot 81/82 footage is at 5 : 04 and a few other places. Best Ozzy/Randy footage I have ever seen.

Rumors that there could be as many as 5 bonus disks if this ever gets released.

GAR
07-25-2009, 03:06 AM
Cant wait to see the whole video...
The Blizzard of Ozz band is timeless.
Diary and Blizzard still bring the chills, all these
years later...

Its great to see somebody documenting one of the
best guitarists of our time. He deserves ongoing
legacy.

I wish someone would do Michael Schenker, or Ritchie Blackmore while they're still alive.

We have Eddie Van Halen in some interviews and recent shows lately and words come out but nobody cares! Let's get some documentaries going on people that really matter.

It would be a real SHAME if the real DLR story couldnt be put out while he's still alive to do it.

GAR
07-25-2009, 03:17 AM
cough.....cough......

another link......

Randy Rhoads Documentary Trailer Video by Romeo Rose - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=61002152)

There is a guy at UltimateRhoads (Romeorose) that got the footage from a Dakota Films employee. He keeps reposting it.

By the way the UNRELEASED Proshot 81/82 footage is at 5 : 04 and a few other places. Best Ozzy/Randy footage I have ever seen.

Rumors that there could be as many as 5 bonus disks if this ever gets released.

At 6:55 - 7:10 is a shot inside the castle I used to live..

Terry
07-25-2009, 01:33 PM
If it was Warner Brothers behind this, we would have already received our legal notice
after your post, Bug ! - No shit......
If footage does belong to Sharon, then immediately you feel this wont be coming
out anytime soon...
Crying shame if thats the case. That trailer looks great.

Depends on how the music was credited on those Ozzy albums...

If it was a four way split on the songwriting credits between Osbourne, Rhoads, Daisley and Kerslake, and Randy's mother has managed to hold onto those rights, there could be fuck-all Sharon could do about it...

...not a good sign that (from what I've seen) the Osbournes aren't currently involved in this project.

Hey, you know what? If it came down to it, and some sort of legal bullshit transpired where the documentary wasn't allowed to use Ozzy's image or voice, I'd still want to see it. I could give two shits about seeing Ozzy or hearing him sing on the documentary. Editing-wise, it'd be tough, but still doable.

FORD
07-25-2009, 05:46 PM
As far as I know, Mrs. Rhoads still has the rights to all of Randy's music. Of course, she's getting up there in years, and I don't know what would happen to them, in the event of her death. Was that blonde chick in the trailer Randy's sister? Can't remember if he had one, but if so, she'd probably inherit the rights.

And unlike Janie Hendrix, at least she actually knew her brother, so that might be a good thing.

Terry
07-25-2009, 09:44 PM
As far as I know, Mrs. Rhoads still has the rights to all of Randy's music. Of course, she's getting up there in years, and I don't know what would happen to them, in the event of her death. Was that blonde chick in the trailer Randy's sister? Can't remember if he had one, but if so, she'd probably inherit the rights.

And unlike Janie Hendrix, at least she actually knew her brother, so that might be a good thing.


Janie Hendrix certainly is greedy, but just as well she gets control of the Hendrix estate these days than, say, Warner Brothers. By the time Janie and Al Hendrix gained full control of Hendrix's music and image for licensing purposes, Hendrix had already been exploited posthumously for many years by Alan Douglas and the like (releasing stuff Hendrix hadn't completed when he died - even using studio musicians to overdub on some very rough demos in many instances - stuff that Hendrix clearly wouldn't have put out as they were).

To the credit of the Hendrix family, their Experience Hendrix company did manage to authorize a lot of good stuff for release starting in the mid 1990s, like the full Woodstock, Band Of Gypsys and Isle of Wight sets. Probably more for financial gain than anything else as far as they looked at it, but at least the stuff was finally made available for fans.

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:50 AM
Yeah, Randy had a sister, but I imagine they are attempting to work something out with Sharon...

It looks cool. If Sharon attempts to stop it (and she would probabaly succeed), that would be the absolute end of me ever supporting anything related Ozzy...

She needs to do the right thing by being involved in terms of both her and Ozzy giving their testimonies, and help finish painting Randy's memories in a manner only they and a few others could in the end...

Sharon and Ozzy both loved Randy and she needs to take part out of respect. If she did that, I could possibly forgive her for a few things...


:elvis:

Panamark
07-26-2009, 10:44 AM
I still cant believe Sharon banged him, and Ozzy is just like, whatever ??
This tribute should include all his former band members, who are still
with us.. Hopefully that includes the full Blizzard of Ozz Band (Kerslake
and Daisley) and especially Ozzy.. Sure I would love this even
without Ozzy's input, but if there is one person on earth that should
be on a memorial to Randy, its John Osbourne !!!

I couldnt give 2 squirts of cats piss if Sharon isnt even mentioned...
This has to be released, I cant believe how long its taken, when
you think of it, there was little closeure. I think the "Tribute" album
was about it.. He deserves more than that. The dude was a one off...

Terry
07-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Yeah, Randy had a sister, but I imagine they are attempting to work something out with Sharon...

It looks cool. If Sharon attempts to stop it (and she would probabaly succeed), that would be the absolute end of me ever supporting anything related Ozzy...

She needs to do the right thing by being involved in terms of both her and Ozzy giving their testimonies, and help finish painting Randy's memories in a manner only they and a few others could in the end...

Sharon and Ozzy both loved Randy and she needs to take part out of respect. If she did that, I could possibly forgive her for a few things...


:elvis:

I dunno about their participating necessarily wiping clean other unrelated actions of sheer greed, selfishness and pettiness on her part (wiping Daisley and Kerslake's parts off of those reissues is one stain that won't out, and that's just for openers)...seems to me her and Ozzy giving interviews for the documentary would just be the right thing to do, and shouldn't be a point of giving either of them a pat on the back for doing so...

Seems the most one could hope from them, barring their participation, is that they step aside and let the thing get made without trying to block it legally for whatever reasons. Not to say this is what is happening at the moment, but would it be a big shock to find out something like that transpired and the reason boiled down to them wanting a huge cut of the profits?

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 05:55 PM
I couldnt give 2 squirts of cats piss if Sharon isnt even mentioned...
This has to be released, I cant believe how long its taken, when
you think of it, there was little closeure. I think the "Tribute" album
was about it.. He deserves more than that. The dude was a one off...

The only reasons I would like Sharons input is:

She's clear minded with a great memory.

She was no way near as selfish or power-mad in those days.

She loved Randy.

And without her, we probably never would have heard from Ozzy again, much less those first two albums, regardless of how she later destroyed them...


That's it!


:elvis:

katie
07-26-2009, 06:05 PM
I still cant believe Sharon banged him, and Ozzy is just like, whatever ??


Bullshit unless you have a link to back it up.

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 06:17 PM
I'd never heard that one...

Seshmeister
07-26-2009, 06:29 PM
I think it's in her autobiography.

Dolemite!
07-26-2009, 06:53 PM
Surely she must have had threatened Rhodes into it.

Satan
07-26-2009, 06:54 PM
Randy assures me that it did, indeed happen. Says it felt like just another groupie slut throwing themselves at him. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 07:00 PM
Dude, that satan act is stupid...

Satan
07-26-2009, 07:04 PM
Act? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d070.gif

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 07:06 PM
You're right...

You're a form of antichrist, FORD...

It's no act...

Satan
07-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Mr. Presley, I can promise you that FORD is not my son, the Antichrist. And neither is your President Mr. Obama, by the way. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 07:48 PM
Bullshit! And stop polluting this thread...

Go back to supporting the bullshit healthcare bill that will multiply abortions, kill off older people beyond their useful working age, and force taxpayers to support it against their and my will...

Fuck you!

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 07:50 PM
Oh, and by the way, Go to HELL!

Satan
07-26-2009, 07:52 PM
Bullshit! And stop polluting this thread...

Go back to supporting the bullshit healthcare bill that will multiply abortions, kill off older people beyond their useful working age, and force taxpayers to support it against their and my will...

Fuck you!

I support healthcare reform for my own Most Unholy reason. The longer mortals live, the less crowded Hell is. Thanks to the BCE, my immigration numbers are out of control lately. Please, for the love of all that's unholy, pass some real health care up there and allow me to expand Hell in a reasonable time frame. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 07:57 PM
Mr. Presley, I can promise you that FORD is not my son, the Antichrist. And neither is your President Mr. Obama, by the way.

I didn't say 'THE.'

Anyone who denies Christ with their ACTIONS is antichrist...PERIOD!

I REFUSE TO ENTERTAIN ANY OF YOUR LIBERAL BULLSHIT IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!

The path is narrow and you're proven to be all over the map...

You might be very smart, but I can pencil whip your ass with basic Christianity any day at any hour!

I'm tired of the bullshit doubt that i've let creap into my mind...

That bullshit is over!


:elvis:

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:00 PM
i support healthcare reform for my own most unholy reason. The longer mortals live, the less crowded hell is. Thanks to the bce, my immigration numbers are out of control lately. Please, for the love of all that's unholy, pass some real health care up there and allow me to expand hell in a reasonable time frame.

lmao!

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:05 PM
I support healthcare reform for my own Most Unholy reason. The longer mortals live, the less crowded Hell is.

Tell me, you stupid fuck, how healthcare reform will help people live longer!

Give me one example...

BTW FORD, Hell will be crowded with "good" people...

And post as yourself dude, you're an adult...at least age-wise...:rolleyes:

Satan
07-26-2009, 08:34 PM
Tell me, you most unholy and wisest of all of God's creations, how healthcare reform will help people live longer!

Give me one example...


Mortals who are uninsured or under-insured usually will not see a doctor until they are at death's door, because they can't afford to pay for it.

As a nurse, you surely know that many fatal diseases are treatable, some even curable if they are caught early enough. And you also know that the early stages of such diseases often don't present any symptoms at all, and are caught in routine annual checkups..... at least for those who are able to HAVE routine annual checkups.

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:50 PM
Again, respectfully FORD, FUCK YOU!

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:elvis:

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:52 PM
Better decisions ??

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 08:54 PM
The Less than half-black-Puppet-Window Dressing president is clueless!

And if God forbid he's deliberately buying into this as he's saying this bullshit, I pray for his soul...

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 09:02 PM
at least for those who are able to HAVE routine annual checkups.

And then the GOVERNMENT decides whether you get the proper treatment or an Obama "pain pill."

Seshmeister
07-26-2009, 09:07 PM
I didn't say 'THE.'

Anyone who denies Christ with their ACTIONS is antichrist...PERIOD!

I REFUSE TO ENTERTAIN ANY OF YOUR LIBERAL BULLSHIT IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!

The path is narrow and you're proven to be all over the map...

You might be very smart, but I can pencil whip your ass with basic Christianity any day at any hour!

I'm tired of the bullshit doubt that i've let creap into my mind...

That bullshit is over!


:elvis:

Wow this preacher guy you see each Sunday really has you under a spell.

ELVIS
07-26-2009, 09:12 PM
That's what you think...

BTW, the Pastor/Preacher I just recieved from over the past few days in Mississippi is an Englishman called Andrew Sherman...

Seshmeister
07-26-2009, 09:19 PM
An Anglican?

I would have thought they would be far to mild for you.

You wouldn't hear their boss the Archbishop of Cantebury ranting on about antichrists and so on.

Nickdfresh
07-26-2009, 09:36 PM
Still it would have been good to hear how Randy managed to maneuver Sharons fat ass into position for penetration in the limted room of a tour bus.

And just how drunk was he?

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/images/stories/exposed/Osbournes/SharonOzzy234.jpg

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/images/stories/exposed/Osbournes/SharonOzzy3452.jpg

Uh? Really? I never heard that...:barf:

Satan
07-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Oh, and by the way, Go to HELL!

How can I "go" to a place where I already am, and have been for thousands of years? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d040.gif

Diamondjimi
07-26-2009, 11:08 PM
Back on fucking topic here...

Here is another link that's still functioning...;)
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:jammin:

ELVIS
07-27-2009, 04:52 AM
An Anglican?

I would have thought they would be far to mild for you.

You wouldn't hear their boss the Archbishop of Cantebury ranting on about antichrists and so on.

No, he's a non-denominational man of God who teaches Biblical Christianiy...

Va Beach VH Fan
07-27-2009, 08:59 AM
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k55/ferr3816/Thread-hijack.jpg

Panamark
07-27-2009, 09:57 AM
As is above,
So is below

Randy never got his props, and now that theres a slight glimmer...
Yet Old Dave and Gregory do the Baptist vampire mating waltz
just to make sure we forget what we were actually here for :(

Seshmeister
07-27-2009, 09:59 AM
Tell me, you stupid fuck, how healthcare reform will help people live longer!

Give me one example...



http://www.galvestoneconomicreport.com/Pics/LifeExpectancy.jpg

Seshmeister
07-27-2009, 10:07 AM
BLABBERMOUTH.NET - SHARON OSBOURNE Talks About The RANDY RHOADS Sexual Encounter (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=17216)




SHARON OSBOURNE Talks About The RANDY RHOADS Sexual Encounter - Dec. 7, 2003
Sharon Osbourne appeared on the "Howard Stern Show" on Friday (December 5) to discuss her family's upcoming book, "Ordinary People: Our Story", and the recent revelation that she cheated on Ozzy in 1980 with his then-guitarist Randy Rhoads.

According to a synopsis of Friday's show (as reported by MarksFriggin.com), "Howard asked Sharon Osbourne about the claims she made about sleeping with Randy [Rhoads] back before she and Ozzy were married. Howard said he knows that the book company probably asked them to reveal some stuff they never revealed before and this is what Sharon came up with. Howard and Robin heard that Ozzy can't even talk about it since hearing about this. Sharon kept saying that she and Ozzy weren't married at the time so she wasn't cheating. Howard said that she was in a relationship with Ozzy though and this shouldn't have come out. Howard went on to tell her that she's so well taken care of being Ozzy's wife. He told her that Ozzy has given her the best life.

"Howard told Sharon that if his wife told him something like that, it would be embarrassing to him. He said she should never have done that. Sharon said she was not married and Ozzy was still married to his wife Thelma at the time. Sharon said this was all back in 1980. Howard said that Randy died in 1982 and asked her if she'd had sex with a corpse. She didn't sound like she was in the mood to hear that though. Sharon went on to tell Howard how she and Ozzy were together for about a month and Ozzy's wife didn't know about it at the time. She had to leave his house one night and she went off with Randy. They got drunk and had sex. That was all that happened according to her. Sharon told Ozzy about the incident the day after it happened, and Ozzy whacked her.

"Howard said that Sharon was heavy back then so he was even more impressed that she was able to get guys. He wondered what she's able to do to get guys like that. He wondered if it's oral or anal or what... He said she must have some vagina control or something. He said that Randy could have had any woman he wanted back then and he picked her for some reason. She said she is kind of sorry that she wrote this in her book and didn't want to ever embarrass Ozzy by doing so. She told Robin that she adores Ozzy and could never cheat on someone. She said she was only with him for one month at the time so it wasn't like they were in a serious relationship at the time. She told Howard he was making it sound like she'd slept with the entire English Army. Howard said Ozzy could probably deal with that better than her sleeping with his best friend.

"Howard asked Sharon if all of her kids are actually Ozzy's. He and Artie goofed on that for a minute and joked that she'd had Randy killed because her oldest daughter was actually his. She said her oldest is 20 years old and Randy died 23 years ago.

"Sharon said she only slept with Randy one time. Howard said he remembers a girl cheating on him with one of his best friends and nothing hurts like that. Howard continued to ask Sharon if she performed oral on Randy. She said that they just had regular sex. She also said she kept most of her clothes on when that happened. She said Ozzy is the only one she's slept with with all of her clothes off. She said Randy didn't use a rubber back then because it was the '80's. Howard wanted to know where Randy's 'DNA' ended up. She said she couldn't remember that far back. Howard asked if he banged her from behind. She said her knickers were down to her ankles and the rest of her clothes were on. Artie asked if he banged her over a drunk Ozzy. Sharon didn't seem to think that was very funny at all. She told Howard that she was jealous of Ozzy's wife back then and that's why she slept with Randy. Howard said he thinks that's why Ozzy shakes these days. It's all because she told him about sleeping with Randy. Howard also asked her if she ever gave Tony Iommi oral. Sharon's reply was negative.

"Howard also brought up how Jack is getting laid like crazy. He lost his virginity at 14 and he doesn't even think sex is special anymore because he can get laid so easy. Sharon eventually said that she should have kept her mouth shut about that part of her life. Sharon said that she cares what Howard thinks of her even though she doesn't care about what anyone else thinks. Sharon said the book doesn't come out until January."

Seshmeister
07-27-2009, 10:07 AM
BLABBERMOUTH.NET - SHARON OSBOURNE Talks About The RANDY RHOADS Sexual Encounter (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.Net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=17216)




SHARON OSBOURNE Talks About The RANDY RHOADS Sexual Encounter - Dec. 7, 2003
Sharon Osbourne appeared on the "Howard Stern Show" on Friday (December 5) to discuss her family's upcoming book, "Ordinary People: Our Story", and the recent revelation that she cheated on Ozzy in 1980 with his then-guitarist Randy Rhoads.

According to a synopsis of Friday's show (as reported by MarksFriggin.com), "Howard asked Sharon Osbourne about the claims she made about sleeping with Randy [Rhoads] back before she and Ozzy were married. Howard said he knows that the book company probably asked them to reveal some stuff they never revealed before and this is what Sharon came up with. Howard and Robin heard that Ozzy can't even talk about it since hearing about this. Sharon kept saying that she and Ozzy weren't married at the time so she wasn't cheating. Howard said that she was in a relationship with Ozzy though and this shouldn't have come out. Howard went on to tell her that she's so well taken care of being Ozzy's wife. He told her that Ozzy has given her the best life.

"Howard told Sharon that if his wife told him something like that, it would be embarrassing to him. He said she should never have done that. Sharon said she was not married and Ozzy was still married to his wife Thelma at the time. Sharon said this was all back in 1980. Howard said that Randy died in 1982 and asked her if she'd had sex with a corpse. She didn't sound like she was in the mood to hear that though. Sharon went on to tell Howard how she and Ozzy were together for about a month and Ozzy's wife didn't know about it at the time. She had to leave his house one night and she went off with Randy. They got drunk and had sex. That was all that happened according to her. Sharon told Ozzy about the incident the day after it happened, and Ozzy whacked her.

"Howard said that Sharon was heavy back then so he was even more impressed that she was able to get guys. He wondered what she's able to do to get guys like that. He wondered if it's oral or anal or what... He said she must have some vagina control or something. He said that Randy could have had any woman he wanted back then and he picked her for some reason. She said she is kind of sorry that she wrote this in her book and didn't want to ever embarrass Ozzy by doing so. She told Robin that she adores Ozzy and could never cheat on someone. She said she was only with him for one month at the time so it wasn't like they were in a serious relationship at the time. She told Howard he was making it sound like she'd slept with the entire English Army. Howard said Ozzy could probably deal with that better than her sleeping with his best friend.

"Howard asked Sharon if all of her kids are actually Ozzy's. He and Artie goofed on that for a minute and joked that she'd had Randy killed because her oldest daughter was actually his. She said her oldest is 20 years old and Randy died 23 years ago.

"Sharon said she only slept with Randy one time. Howard said he remembers a girl cheating on him with one of his best friends and nothing hurts like that. Howard continued to ask Sharon if she performed oral on Randy. She said that they just had regular sex. She also said she kept most of her clothes on when that happened. She said Ozzy is the only one she's slept with with all of her clothes off. She said Randy didn't use a rubber back then because it was the '80's. Howard wanted to know where Randy's 'DNA' ended up. She said she couldn't remember that far back. Howard asked if he banged her from behind. She said her knickers were down to her ankles and the rest of her clothes were on. Artie asked if he banged her over a drunk Ozzy. Sharon didn't seem to think that was very funny at all. She told Howard that she was jealous of Ozzy's wife back then and that's why she slept with Randy. Howard said he thinks that's why Ozzy shakes these days. It's all because she told him about sleeping with Randy. Howard also asked her if she ever gave Tony Iommi oral. Sharon's reply was negative.

"Howard also brought up how Jack is getting laid like crazy. He lost his virginity at 14 and he doesn't even think sex is special anymore because he can get laid so easy. Sharon eventually said that she should have kept her mouth shut about that part of her life. Sharon said that she cares what Howard thinks of her even though she doesn't care about what anyone else thinks. Sharon said the book doesn't come out until January."

Panamark
07-27-2009, 10:33 AM
Sesh ! I think we get the point...

Ok so Randy dipped his flesh capo into the bitch from hell..

Im really pissed off ya bastards... some respect please...
Crikies..... The man could outplay all of you

It would be nice to see a doco on his life......

letsrock
07-27-2009, 10:34 AM
I think it's in her autobiography.

Plus she made a comment on either howard or some other sit down back when her book was released.

Seshmeister
07-27-2009, 10:52 AM
Sesh ! I think we get the point...

Ok so Randy dipped his flesh capo into the bitch from hell..

Im really pissed off ya bastards... some respect please...
Crikies..... The man could outplay all of you


So what, at least I never rooted Sharon Osbourne... :)

Coyote
07-27-2009, 01:06 PM
The man could outplay all of you

If he weren't dead, he might.


(I know, I'm going straight to hell for that.)

ELVIS
07-27-2009, 05:49 PM
Howard said Ozzy could probably deal with that better than her sleeping with his best friend.

Good for Howard!

I never knew about this and I suspect she figured Ozzy probably would have never known she had revealed it in a book...

But I chalk it up to control, and it sheds some light on why randy was ready to leave Ozzy Osbourne - the band...

I guess Sharon was just as conniving and ruthless back then...

I don't imagine Randy seduced her. It had to be the other way around. The same way she got a hold on Ozzy...

Must have been some good stuff though, chunky or not...:biggrin:

ELVIS
07-27-2009, 05:55 PM
Plus she made a comment on either howard or some other sit down back when her book was released.

You absolutely do not read threads...i'm convinced...

All the info is there and you ask the first question after it's been answered by several people in several ways...


:rolleyes:

binnie
07-28-2009, 02:22 AM
Watching that video, two thoughts spring to mind:

1) I can't fuckin' wait to see this.

2) Age is a cruel, cruel, thing....

Panamark
07-28-2009, 02:43 AM
So what, at least I never rooted Sharon Osbourne... :)

Thankgod you have those grainy old pics for spanking fodder then :biggrin:

GAR
07-28-2009, 04:57 AM
Mortals who are uninsured or under-insured usually will not see a doctor until they are at death's door, because they can't afford to pay for it.

Forcing 85% of everyone else's taxes to double just so that the 15% (42 million) people without INSURANCE can burden themselves upon the healthcare providers that wouldn't normally see them truly is evil.

Well done, Morning Star!

GAR
07-28-2009, 05:01 AM
You absolutely do not read threads...i'm convinced...

preposterous!

Seshmeister
07-28-2009, 05:08 AM
Watching that video, two thoughts spring to mind:

2) Age is a cruel, cruel, thing....

Especially if you spend year after year getting fucked out your head.

Panamark
07-28-2009, 05:34 AM
I think Ozzy passed the point of no return, so may aswell
enjoy it until the finishing post ;)

If you are reading this with a drink, perhaps its also time to
resolve yourself to the darkside forever !

Aw Go on... Have a cup of tea !!

FECK

binnie
07-28-2009, 08:42 AM
Especially if you spend year after year getting fucked out your head.

And eating pies, judging by the multiple chins being displayed in that video :D

letsrock
07-28-2009, 08:55 AM
Forcing 85% of everyone else's taxes to double just so that the 15% (42 million) people without INSURANCE can burden themselves upon the healthcare providers that wouldn't normally see them truly is evil.

Well done, Morning Star!

When we hear others say "its going to get worse before it gets better" they are talking about taxes. OChuma is gona kill whats left of the American Dream.

ELVIS
07-28-2009, 09:55 AM
Actually, the quote is "it's going to get worse before it gets worse."

letsrock
07-28-2009, 09:57 AM
Actually, the quote is "it's going to get worse before it gets worse."

So true.

atomicpunk5151
07-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Let's get this back on track.

TAKE all your other BS to one of the 10,000 other threads in the Front Line......lol....

++++++++++++++++

Mr Crowley from the After Hours video

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Also a good audio clip

Over the Mountain Ozzy/Randy 1/15/82 from Minny, MN

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ELVIS
07-28-2009, 05:18 PM
No matter how bad Ozzy's vocals were at times, Randy would have been nothing without him...

Same with Ed and Dave...

But i've heard many of these shows with Over The Mountain being the first song (which is usually bad vocally), but Ozzy's vocal ability improved incredibly on every song as the show progressed...

He was in pretty bad shape many times, but Ozzy gave everything he possibly could...

That's why I still respect him...


:elvis:

davehagarfan
07-28-2009, 06:23 PM
Good for Howard!

I never knew about this and I suspect she figured Ozzy probably would have never known she had revealed it in a book...

But I chalk it up to control, and it sheds some light on why randy was ready to leave Ozzy Osbourne - the band...

I guess Sharon was just as conniving and ruthless back then...

I don't imagine Randy seduced her. It had to be the other way around. The same way she got a hold on Ozzy...

Must have been some good stuff though, chunky or not...:biggrin:


I tend to think Sharon might be full of shit about it...or she just got Randy really fucking drunk....

davehagarfan
07-28-2009, 06:28 PM
No matter how bad Ozzy's vocals were at times, Randy would have been nothing without him...

Same with Ed and Dave...

But i've heard many of these shows with Over The Mountain being the first song (which is usually bad vocally), but Ozzy's vocal ability improved incredibly on every song as the show progressed...

He was in pretty bad shape many times, but Ozzy gave everything he possibly could...

That's why I still respect him...


:elvis:

I disagree.....had Randy brought his later heavy metal and classical leanings to Quiet Riot while keeping some of their original pop edge....it would have made for an interesting and very creative career. With Sarzo and Banalli as a rhythm section they would have been a great band

letsrock
07-28-2009, 06:55 PM
Diary of a madman.

YouTube - OZZY-Diary of A Madman "Tribute" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_qcfIaEMQE&feature=PlayList&p=578F866982177C5D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20)

jackassrock
07-28-2009, 07:05 PM
cough.....cough......

another link......

Randy Rhoads Documentary Trailer Video by Romeo Rose - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=61002152)

There is a guy at UltimateRhoads (Romeorose) that got the footage from a Dakota Films employee. He keeps reposting it.

By the way the UNRELEASED Proshot 81/82 footage is at 5 : 04 and a few other places. Best Ozzy/Randy footage I have ever seen.

Rumors that there could be as many as 5 bonus disks if this ever gets released.

Have you guys checked out Romeo Rose's "music" ?
Fucking laffo !

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 01:45 AM
I disagree.....had Randy brought his later heavy metal and classical leanings to Quiet Riot while keeping some of their original pop edge....it would have made for an interesting and very creative career. With Sarzo and Banalli as a rhythm section they would have been a great band

Yeah right...:rolleyes:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 01:48 AM
Randy wrote some pretty crappy songs until he hooked up with Bob Daisley...

I totally get replacing Lee kerslake with Tommy Aldridge, but they never should have dropped Daisley. he was the biggest creative force Ozzy ever had, post sabbath...

Diamondjimi
07-29-2009, 01:53 AM
Have you guys checked out Romeo Rose's "music" ?
Fucking laffo !

:shiznit: Fucking horrible, at best! :lmao:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 02:04 AM
Bob Daisley Interview...

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:elvis:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 02:24 AM
Killer pics on these clips...


:elvis:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 02:32 AM
WOW!

What an interview as well as a revelation...

I've been aware of most of this information. but Bob is totally honest and sheds quite a bit of light on the history of Ozzy, Randy and the original Blizzard of Oz band...

katie
07-29-2009, 05:51 AM
Killer pics on these clips...


:elvis:

A few of those live stills are taken from a 4 song live promo reel from Jet records 1980 that still hasn't seen the light of day.

binnie
07-29-2009, 08:50 AM
Bob Daisley sounds like a very nice man that just wants his due - he doesn't really sound bitter at all, except maybe when they dicuss 'Suicide Solution'

davehagarfan
07-29-2009, 11:57 AM
Randy wrote some pretty crappy songs until he hooked up with Bob Daisley...

I totally get replacing Lee kerslake with Tommy Aldridge, but they never should have dropped Daisley. he was the biggest creative force Ozzy ever had, post sabbath...


He had Dee pretty much written before he was ever in Ozzy....he use to play it in his solo spotlight....he also had bits or most of Crazy Train and I'm sure quite a few other tunes that ended up being Ozzy songs....it wasn't Randy that needed the help....it was Ozzy

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 12:08 PM
Even if what you said is 100&#37; correct, and it may be, you cannot deny Bob Daisley's contribution...

Diamondjimi
07-29-2009, 12:38 PM
He had Dee pretty much written before he was ever in Ozzy....he use to play it in his solo spotlight....he also had bits or most of Crazy Train and I'm sure quite a few other tunes that ended up being Ozzy songs....it wasn't Randy that needed the help....it was Ozzy

True Ozzy is only capable of writing vocal melodies, that's about it...


A few of those live stills are taken from a 4 song live promo reel from Jet records 1980 that still hasn't seen the light of day.

LINK?


Bob Daisley sounds like a very nice man that just wants his due - he doesn't really sound bitter at all, except maybe when they dicuss 'Suicide Solution'

Bob is a very cool guy. I've have spoken with him a couple of times online...
Ozzy and $haron basically shat on him and his cuntributions to Ozzy's career.

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 01:14 PM
No Bob, no Ozzy...period!

Diamondjimi
07-29-2009, 03:00 PM
No Bob, no Ozzy...period!

More like . No Bob, no quality... ;)

davehagarfan
07-29-2009, 03:22 PM
More like . No Bob, no quality... ;)


Bob Daisley is one of my all time favorite lyricists

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 04:36 PM
That's why Sharon kept on purchasing his services...

indeedido
07-29-2009, 04:49 PM
QR went no where with Randy. There's a reason he left. He needed Ozzy. Imagine Dubrow putting some lame vocal on Over the Mountain or Crazy Train's music. You never would have heard it.

Diamondjimi
07-29-2009, 05:44 PM
Bob Daisley is one of my all time favorite lyricists

He's top notch, for sure..


That's why Sharon kept on purchasing his services...

Exactly!


QR went no where with Randy. There's a reason he left. He needed Ozzy. Imagine Dubrow putting some lame vocal on Over the Mountain or Crazy Train's music. You never would have heard it.

True. Before Bob it was Geezer Butler writing all the lyrics. You'd figure after all those years with Sabbath Ozzy would've developed a bit of lyrical talent, nevermind the fact that John Lennon (Oz's hero) was a very prolific writer...
Fuck, he really wasn't paying attention all those years was he!?

"Wine is fine ,but whiskey's quicker". 40 years in the business and that's all he's got to show for it (lyrically)...:umm:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 06:38 PM
1981 Ozzy Interview...

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:elvis:

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 06:41 PM
Ozzy was sharp as a tack back then...:(

katie
07-29-2009, 07:04 PM
Bob is a very cool guy. I've have spoken with him a couple of times online...


http://www.rampant-books.com/images/book_cover_web_stalkers_255.gif

ELVIS
07-29-2009, 07:15 PM
Man...

You are such a bitch, or at least try to portray yourself as such...

Terry
07-29-2009, 08:23 PM
No Bob, no Ozzy...period!


No doubt!

Diamondjimi
07-29-2009, 09:42 PM
http://www.rampant-books.com/images/book_cover_web_stalkers_255.gif

Dolt!

Having a conversation through email is stalking? Delusion much?


Man...

You are such a bitch, or at least try to portray yourself as such...

A stupid one at that!

Panamark
07-30-2009, 01:44 AM
Bob Daisley is one of my all time favorite lyricists


Are you sure Bob would take that as a complement from a Sammy fan ? :umm:
I mean thats not much of benchmark you have to surpass ???

Hagar aside, agree with you totally. :biggrin:

Seshmeister
07-30-2009, 07:46 AM
Bob Daisley is one of my all time favorite lyricists

Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb
Thank god for the bomb

NUKE YA NUKE YA

He's up there with some of the 20th century's great literary minds like Larkin, WH Auden, TS Eliot and Michael Starr

letsrock
07-30-2009, 08:58 AM
Only thing Ozzy has been consistent at is bringing out the best in the guitarists that play in his bands.

Heck even Brad Gillis did a killer job finishing the tour. And he was offered the job, but Night Ranger was just taking off.

Randy
jake E Lee
Zak

John 5 will be next.

Seshmeister
07-30-2009, 09:22 AM
He was consistent until he got Zak who is a bit mediocre.

atomicpunk5151
07-30-2009, 11:47 AM
A few of those live stills are taken from a 4 song live promo reel from Jet records 1980 that still hasn't seen the light of day.

Are you talking about the Mr Crowley Live EP? The one that was recorded on the first UK tour in 1980 (South Hampton, UK). They also pulled No Bones Movies and Goodbyr tR for the Tribute album from this show.

Or something different?

katie
07-30-2009, 08:11 PM
Are you talking about the Mr Crowley Live EP? The one that was recorded on the first UK tour in 1980 (South Hampton, UK). They also pulled No Bones Movies and Goodbyr tR for the Tribute album from this show.


Yes that's the one,

Talked about quite alot over the past 2 years in trading circles,

It is out there in the hands of a few 'private' collections, I am sure it will turn up like most 'private' boot stuff does eventually
(Mind you i'm still waiting for the Dave Walker Sabbath 'juniors Eyes' video to turn up from the BBC, the audio is on youtube but no vid)

Terry
07-30-2009, 09:30 PM
He was consistent until he got Zak who is a bit mediocre.

Wylde started out great, I thought.

Quite enjoyed what he did on No Rest For The Wicked, which is really the last decent Ozzy studio album. Actually preferred it to the Ultimate Sin...and a good portion of Bark At The Moon...just never was such a huge fan of what Jake E. Lee did with Ozzy in terms of studio work. The man can play, and play quite well, but the stuff he and Ozzy (and Daisley) came up with didn't really have that timeless quality of the stuff RR worked on for me.

Terry
07-31-2009, 08:54 PM
Randy wrote some pretty crappy songs until he hooked up with Bob Daisley...

I totally get replacing Lee kerslake with Tommy Aldridge, but they never should have dropped Daisley. he was the biggest creative force Ozzy ever had, post sabbath...

I could understand getting Aldridge from a performance point of view. He is a capable enough live drummer. Kerslake did some nice work on those first two Ozzy albums; appreciated that drum work much more than what Aldridge did on Bark At The Moon, myself.

Agreed 100% on the mistake of dropping Daisley for Sarzo. From what I've read, it was a choice inititated by Sharon (who later claimed Randy and his mother agreed with it) to drop Kerslake and Daisley for Sarzo and Aldridge for the Diary tour because they could play well enough and looked better (or "more rock and roll") onstage than Daisley and Kerslake.

Funny how so many people who love Ozzy's music still aren't aware of just how much Daisley did in terms of lyrics and song ideas for Ozzy, and not just on those first two albums, either.

I mean, realistically, how could a person think Ozzy would even be able to come up with a musical idea on, say, a guitar? The guy can't even play. He would obviously be able to tell a guitarist "I like that thing you're playing there...that would be a good riff for a song"...

Pretty fucked up how Daisley is still having to bring lawsuits in order to obtain his full publishing rights (notice how he learned his lesson in dealing with the Osbournes after being denied credit on the Diary cover; every album he worked on afterwards, he sold the songs to the Osbournes as a one-time fee for his performance and writing).

Nothing new in terms of musicians getting fucked over by the biz, though. Happened to Hendrix. Happened to the Stones. Happened to the Who. Happens because most rock musicians weren't (and aren't) businessmen.

Seshmeister
07-31-2009, 09:34 PM
Wylde started out great, I thought.

Quite enjoyed what he did on No Rest For The Wicked, which is really the last decent Ozzy studio album. Actually preferred it to the Ultimate Sin...and a good portion of Bark At The Moon...just never was such a huge fan of what Jake E. Lee did with Ozzy in terms of studio work. The man can play, and play quite well, but the stuff he and Ozzy (and Daisley) came up with didn't really have that timeless quality of the stuff RR worked on for me.

"You quite enjoyed it?"

Me too but does that mean he started great?

He's maybe written a few ok riffs but apart from that what is his legacy? To me the final confirmation of his inadequacies is the BLS stuff...

His legacy is a disgrace. How many great young guitarists were there back in the late 80s who wouldn't have pissed the opportunity of the Ozzy gig against the wall...?

But good luck to him, whatever.

Terry
07-31-2009, 10:50 PM
"You quite enjoyed it?"

Me too but does that mean he started great?

He's maybe written a few ok riffs but apart from that what is his legacy? To me the final confirmation of his inadequacies is the BLS stuff...

His legacy is a disgrace. How many great young guitarists were there back in the late 80s who wouldn't have pissed the opportunity of the Ozzy gig against the wall...?

But good luck to him, whatever.

To me, Wylde started out on a strong note with Ozzy. Am not putting him in the same realm as Randy Rhoads or the material he worked on in the same realm as Blizzard or Diary, but overall I enjoyed No Rest For The Wicked more than either of the Jake E. Lee efforts.

As a guitar player, I wouldn't really rank Wylde particularly high in terms of originality or innovation, but he was a capable enough player. Capable enough for what Ozzy was doing at that point. I mean, with Ozzy by the late 1980s, his image and style didn't really lend themselves to pairing him with a player intent on displaying jaw-dropping, world-class technical ability anyway; someone like Satriani or Vai wouldn't have been a good fit with Ozzy because it would have been a waste of their talents, and their musical aspirations wouldn't have fit with Ozzy's by-then limited musical style.

I wouldn't say Wylde's entire legacy with Ozzy was a disgrace, but outside of the first two albums he did with Ozzy, none of it was particularly good, either.

Seshmeister
07-31-2009, 11:01 PM
Could this be the first time in the history of the internet that I disagree with Terry a bit? Maybe a bit.

I prefer Bark at the Moon to No Rest For The Wicked. The Ultimate Sin was very disappointing. I think that was due to a combination of Ozzy being particularly fucked up at the time and Bob Daisley not being around.

Jake E Lee was maybe not the best writer of all time but if we are putting him head to head with Jeffrey(Zak) then I can't think of any songs Jeffrey did that can compete with BATM, RRR and particularly Waiting For Darkness which is genius.

Also Jake had the guts to try and take RR stuff to the next level rather than just copying it. In my book Jake E Lee is a way ahead of Zak and he only had 4 years to make an inpact rather than 20...

ELVIS
08-01-2009, 02:59 AM
Yep!

Waiting For Darkness wouldn't be out of place on Blizzard or Diary...I love it!

I also like Center of Eternity quite a bit...

But, No Rest For The Wicked is a pretty good Ozzy album, especially as far as Ozzy's vocals...

FORD
08-01-2009, 03:07 AM
He had Dee pretty much written before he was ever in Ozzy....he use to play it in his solo spotlight....he also had bits or most of Crazy Train and I'm sure quite a few other tunes that ended up being Ozzy songs....it wasn't Randy that needed the help....it was Ozzy

True enough..... a lot of these riffs were in the Quiet Riot song "Laughing Gas", which was a fan favorite at the shows, but they never recorded it in the studio.

It finally came out on the Kevin DuBrow remixed compilation of Rhoads material in 1994, but here's what it sounded like before the overdubs. You'll definitely recognize parts of Randy's solo..........

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Terry
08-01-2009, 12:00 PM
Could this be the first time in the history of the internet that I disagree with Terry a bit? Maybe a bit.

I prefer Bark at the Moon to No Rest For The Wicked. The Ultimate Sin was very disappointing. I think that was due to a combination of Ozzy being particularly fucked up at the time and Bob Daisley not being around.

Jake E Lee was maybe not the best writer of all time but if we are putting him head to head with Jeffrey(Zak) then I can't think of any songs Jeffrey did that can compete with BATM, RRR and particularly Waiting For Darkness which is genius.

Also Jake had the guts to try and take RR stuff to the next level rather than just copying it. In my book Jake E Lee is a way ahead of Zak and he only had 4 years to make an inpact rather than 20...


Bark At The Moon is kind of a mixed bag for me, in that half of the material doesn't really do much for me (no accounting for tastes, I suppose). The half that works well works very well, indeed. I guess it would be unfair in some ways to compare the Lee or Wylde stuff to Ozzy's first two solo albums, but I still use that yardstick anyway.

The Ultimate Sin I just did not care for. It's obvious Lee could play (saw him twice live, and he was very good), but the production and songs on that album just didn't cut it for me overall.

Hey, nobodies gonna put me in charge of heading up the Zakk Wylde fan club, but I think he did some good stuff on No Rest For The Wicked. I'd say Miracle Man was just as good as Now You See It, Now You Don't or You're No Different or any of the better stuff on BATM. At least to these ears.

binnie
08-01-2009, 12:07 PM
Zakk is a fine musician in his own right who's made music in many different styles with a high degree of success - 'No Rest For the Wicked', 'No More Tears', 'Pride & Glory', 'Book of Shadows', and the first three BLS records are all strong releases - classics? No, but there is enough very good music to have a legacy to be proud of, IMO.

As a player, he's not in the RR or Jake E Lee league. However, it's only in the last few years that he's stagnated and become a one-trick pony, overkilling the tricks when they don't need to be there. That smacks of boredom of playing with Ozzy and doing the same damn setlist for 10 years, IMO.

The man also knows his place. He's nothing but respectful to guys he knows are better than him, like RR and Dimebag.

tojoro
02-22-2010, 01:45 PM
Some random thoughts and observations, if I may....
The director has stated within the past month that the film will indeed come out this year. Not sure when, don't know if it will be submitted first to Sundance in Sept.
Bob was interviewed, but was referred to by the director as 'one of the worst human beings he's encountered on the planet'. This wasn't by name, but there were two interviews in Austrailia. The other was Scott Shelley, the man who taught Randy at Musonia. Supposedly Bob hasn't signed off as of yet.
Dakota Pictures had a bad falling out with Kelly Garni, who was Randy's buddy, as well as the original bass player in QR. You start wondering if DuBrow knew something back then...
Randy's family is said to be unhappy with the director, but he is legally bound to finish the film.
It is rumored that the Osbourne's aren't involved, but there is a pic of Ozzy & Peter Margolis, (the director) at Dakota's offices of recent.
The footage seen in the trailer was filmed for tv segments on the Diary tour and Ozzy's life by ET, Two On The Town and another that slips my mind.
I can't recall where the footage was shot, but some is soundcheck in street clothes, the other was full dress to an empty hall, save the crews.
They did Over The Mountain, Mr. Crowley and maybe Crazy Train:umm:
Eddie was indeed contacted...he turned them down a total of three times.
Bummer...
Two large roadblocks here:
If the O's are to authorize any music, it's gonna be the '02 remasters which is wrong. Using the original masters would be Sharon admitting she was wrong, and that isn't about to happen.
As for the footage, Bob and Lee would be in any Blizzard Tour, (except US), so that's unuseable. In terms of Diary...I love Ozzy, but he was a living wreck on this tour...flubbed lyrics aside, he was breaking down mentally, and his vices became beasts. I cannot see Sharon giving a green light on footage with a less than stellar performance from Ozzy. I don't think he could go back in the studio and correct vocals from 28-30 years ago.
The whole affair thing was just a sad cash grab by Sharon.The fuckin' guy isn't around to defend himself...why would you say something like that? You only wind up hurting people doing that...
Ozzy was still married to Thelma while banging Sharon, so...
Don't know where this stands, as I've asked here and there, but never got an answer, but, it has been said that the terms of Randy's contract were changed shortly after his death.
Randy sought professional advice from both Don Airey and Tommy Aldridge, as they had been in the biz awhile, as to how he could get out of his contract. This was probably shortly after Ozzy cracked him in the face over breakfast because Randy did not want to cut a live Sabbath album.
Ozzy was killing himself, the debauchery on the road, the truly freaky fans bringing cow's heads to the shows...he had indeed had enough.
Folks always wonder what the next album was gonna sound like, my guess would be not so good...Both Tommy and Rudy are known for being live performers, but in their long careers haven't laid down many bass or drum tracks in the studio.
I don't know the real reasons, but it's a fuckin' shame Bob and Lee were booted. The three of them smoked as a band...anyone who hooks up with Daisley is gonna get gold in return, and he really brought out what Randy was capapble of. I wholeheartedly agree that Randy was going nowhere with QR. Not to be disrespectful, but nobody in that band was a good enough musician to inspire Randy...he had to come up with stuff on his own.
Once he met Bob, there was a shit ton of creativity that came forth.
Neither QR album can hold flame against the monoliths that are Van Halen I & II, but if Blizzard and Diary were to have been released in '78 & '79...there'd be some competetion there.
Some folks believe Randy wasn't as good as his legend perceives him to be...Even Lemmy wrote in his bio that Randy wasn't the great guitarist that his death made him out to be, (odd comment...I thought he & Ozzy were mates?), but the fact of the matter is that there's exactly 19 songs that were officially released in the US, and that is all. Two were throw away B-sides, but the rest are damn near impossible to cut up. His playing is pretty fuckin' tight. Even 'Little Dolls', reputed to be a scratch solo he didn't have time to redo, is cool.
It'd be nice if everyone were able to put their differences and egos aside, and just get this done for the guy. He's slowly slipping into the same pool of obscurity that Duane Allman has vanished into...It'd be nice for Randy's mom to see this, too. She is in her mid to late 90's I believe.
Lastly, the woman with the short red hair, crying, is Randy's sister, Kathy. The woman with the longer, blonde hair was his fiancee, Jody.
The trailer can still be seen if you are a member over at RR.US. (Garni's site) Some of the info I posted came from there, some came from the documentary page on FB. The director does post there. If you type in Randy in the search bar, it is the third Rhoads page that pops up.

Seshmeister
02-22-2010, 02:47 PM
Bob was interviewed, but was referred to by the director as 'one of the worst human beings he's encountered on the planet'.

Doesn't sound like him, he must have treated him that way because he thought Sharon had sent him.

atomicpunk5151
02-22-2010, 02:52 PM
Just a little update on the Doc and the NEW footage that Ozzy has mentioned a few times this month:

Ozzy Osbourne is planning on releasing a concert DVD later this year featuring never-before-seen footage of his band — including late guitarist Randy Rhoads — performing in 1981. Ozzy wrote on his Twitter profile on Friday, January 22nd after viewing the Rhoads material, "I'm speechless."


There has been quite a bit of drama in the RR comunity of the last year or so with the RR Documentary that was going to be made by Peter Margolis. I guess it all went to hell. Ozzy and several other people won't be in it and it might be on hold. They also have no rights to any footage or music with Ozzy. Even if they did find something they couldn't put it out. There was a Doc trailer that was on youtube for a few hours before it got pulled, there was for sure footage of Oz/Randy that I hadn't seen before, who knows where it was from though.

Then Jack Osbourne may be doing some kind of Doc as well. They may also have stumbled or bought some footage.

This digging for the Doc is probably what turned up the new RR fotage. Ozzy said he had not seen it before. You have to figure even Oz would know the difference between the after Hours footage...lol.

Some other rumors going around about archievest is Bill Shelley. Seems he has several Beatles & Zep shows, plus 1000s of hours on 35mm film. He may be the one that gave a show to Ozzy. He actually shows them at a movie theatre. His compnay also licenses footage for movies, commercial, ect. MySpace - SHELLEY ARCHIVES FILMS - 49 - Male - Long Isand, NEW YORK - myspace.com/shelleyarchives (http://www.myspace.com/shelleyarchives) They may now have "Multiple" shows with Ozzy and Randy.

Ultimate Rhoads :: View Forum - General (http://www.ultimaterhoads.com/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=48832a167a3fadebcf8bb29776155b17)

tojoro
02-22-2010, 03:33 PM
No, Sesh, it doesn't sound like Bob at all. I would guess the music rights may be involved in there.
There is a topic on page 2 now, about the Ozzy Twitter. 'Has Rhoads Footage Finally Surfaced?'

I think Ultimaterhoads has locked that topic, as Bill is not only checking to see what he has, but to get Sharon's approval to show said footage publicy.

I'm not trying to be a dick, Atomic, but did you read what I posted an hour ago?

tojoro
02-22-2010, 03:38 PM
Here's a thread concerning the footage we all saw on the trailer:

Ultimate Rhoads :: View topic - Which songs were done for ET again? (http://www.ultimaterhoads.com/viewtopic.php?t=3961&highlight=entaertainment+tonight)

Seshmeister
02-22-2010, 04:28 PM
The most amazing thing about all of this is the thought that Ozzy might be on Twitter????!!!??

tojoro
02-22-2010, 04:59 PM
No kidding! We saw what a rough go he had with the TV remote....

Terry
02-22-2010, 10:40 PM
Good, good stuff, tojoro.

Was just wondering the other day what in the hell was happening with this RR Doc we all saw the teaser trailer for a ways back.

Bit inconclusive as to even IF (never mind WHEN) it will see the light of day, but who knows?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzy's new live dvd RR footage WAS the After Hours stuff, but ti would still be neat to see that stuff cleaned up and tweaked a bit, audio-wise.

tojoro
02-23-2010, 08:01 AM
Thanks, Terry...
I failed to mention yesterday that Kelly Garni did confirm on his site that said footage was NOT the After Hours stuff we've all seen before. This footage may be from the collection of the guy from Long Island mentioned above.
I have seen clips of a very cleaned up After Hours in the recent past, and I'm hoping it sees release in the near future, but am anxious to see this new stuff first.

Saw this post on TK:
This was posted by someone who asked OZZY about it at one of the book signings.
It was posted on Metal Sludge.

I just was at the book signing here in Philly with Ozzy.........

So I had a few seconds, and I said....Oz....where is this new Randy footage from.........and he stopped signing, and looked at me, and said......"I'm not sure, I think from the Palladium but it is Fuckin Fantastic, I was truely blown away by how good it is"


I showed him & his assistant a picture, of me & Ozzy when I was 15, 25 yrs ago, & they both got a kick out of it..........and I was on my way

But my main thing was the new Randy footage


http://forums.metalsludge.tv/forums/vie ... 1&t=218761

While looking for that, I saw it mentioned that the ET footage was shot at Cow Palace on 12/30/81.

atomicpunk5151
02-23-2010, 10:52 AM
I'm not trying to be a dick, Atomic, but did you read what I posted an hour ago?

Not to be a dick.... Yes I read your post. Some very detailed info on where all this is going.

I was adding a important point about where the Footage possibly came from that you left out. Bill Shelley. He may be the key in all of this.

Hardrock69
02-23-2010, 02:42 PM
Just one more event where Sharon and Ozzy are showing their true colors.

FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS! :mad:

Panamark
02-24-2010, 04:54 AM
Bob Daisley is not a prick.

I think we know who the prick is, and
supposedly, it doesnt have a penis.
Although, one can never be sure ?

Ya know..

Im not referring to Ozzy.

Diamondjimi
02-24-2010, 06:37 PM
Trailer still viewable HERE (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/1397944-post1.html).

78/84 guy
02-24-2010, 09:18 PM
Can't wait !!

Terry
02-24-2010, 09:55 PM
Bob Daisley is not a prick.

I think we know who the prick is, and
supposedly, it doesnt have a penis.
Although, one can never be sure ?

Ya know..

Im not referring to Ozzy.

Daisley felt he got fucked over by the Osbournes, which he probably did to an extent if the general story Daisley tells is true. A telling bit of evidence supporting Daisley's claim is how the quality of Ozzy's music slid downward in direct proportion to the gradual lessening of Daisley's participation on the albums following Diary.

Seshmeister
02-24-2010, 10:06 PM
I think it's certain he got fucked over on royalties for the first 2 albums at the very least. The complete minimum he did was write the lyrics which is obviously worth a writing royalty in itself.

Ozzy has admitted repeatedly over the years he can't write lyrics. He's never written them.

Panamark
02-25-2010, 05:13 AM
All I can say, is I think Sesh was on the money, if Daisley thought
Sharon was involved now, hatred mode on !!

Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake and Jimmy Barnes (who ironically
EVH chased after Dave left) did a gig in Sydney a few years
back (sorry, Im really bad with solid dates) as a tribute to
the Blizzard of Oz albums... Needless to say, Mr Daisley is
not a Prick.... Although Im sure you all realize that..

tojoro
02-25-2010, 11:07 AM
I thought the 'Living Loud' project was a pretty cool thing. A lot of folks bitched about Barnes' voice...naturally, they're used to the versions they've been hearing for nearly 3 decades with Ozzy. I thought Jimmy did a great job.
Ditto for Steve Morse. He's not Rhoads...had he played the solos note for note, folks still would have complained.
Bob has always seemed to me the consumate professional, and always willing to answer the same questions over and over. His lyrics suited Ozzy perfectly, and his playing on those albums is astounding...just some damn fine bass playing in my book.
Not just on Ozzy's albums, either.

Terry
02-25-2010, 09:06 PM
I think it's certain he got fucked over on royalties for the first 2 albums at the very least. The complete minimum he did was write the lyrics which is obviously worth a writing royalty in itself.

Ozzy has admitted repeatedly over the years he can't write lyrics. He's never written them.


Ozzy has tacitly agreed with Daisley's contentions about who contributed what to the first two albums. When all of that became more widely known (several years after the albums came out), my reaction was puzzled: yes, Ozzy lent his name to the albums and his voice to the songs. Fair enough to say few could imagine anyone but him singing them - he does have his own unique style, and his name recognition back then was way higher than Rhoads, Daisley or Kerslake. As to the rest of it, it seems like Rhoads, Daisley and Kerslake came up with the music, Daisley came up with most of the lyrics, and Ozzy sang the tunes: bit silly to consider the first two solo albums "Ozzy Osbourne" albums in that sense. Am assuming Ozzy had input on how the tunes were arranged, although Ozzy seems so befuddled I have a hard time imagining him arrange his way out of a paper bag, much less anything else.

Seshmeister
02-25-2010, 09:18 PM
I think Sharon may be great at fucking over people to make money but I'm not so sure she is the amazing management genius.

How many more albums did Ozzy sell because he had little Rudy Sarzo bouncing around on stage? How many more concert tickets were sold because girls were masturbating over his picture inserted into the Diary of a Madman sleeve?

I don't think that many.

Her policy of shitting on everyone did get them to the millionaire status but if it hadn't been for someone at MTV coming up with the 'watch the freak' series then they would have just went into obscurity as his career was effectively dead apart from flogging the dead Sabbath horse every so often for 40 minutes.

Panamark
02-26-2010, 02:21 AM
Ozzy is one person who should rim MTV's collective asshole on a daily basis.
He was gone !
Now he has merchandising empires, gets paid very nicely for advertising,
and I'm sure "The Osbournes" created more punters at his gigs once again...

I think we all got sucked into that show initially, I thought it was funny.

Terry
02-26-2010, 06:00 AM
I think Sharon may be great at fucking over people to make money but I'm not so sure she is the amazing management genius.

How many more albums did Ozzy sell because he had little Rudy Sarzo bouncing around on stage? How many more concert tickets were sold because girls were masturbating over his picture inserted into the Diary of a Madman sleeve?

I don't think that many.

Her policy of shitting on everyone did get them to the millionaire status but if it hadn't been for someone at MTV coming up with the 'watch the freak' series then they would have just went into obscurity as his career was effectively dead apart from flogging the dead Sabbath horse every so often for 40 minutes.


The strength of the material on the first two albums and Ozzy's own offstage behavior was enough publicity.Sharon deserves credit for bringing Ozzy to Epic records and the attention of Don Arden, but if she hadn't been the daughter of Arden who knows if she would have been an effective manager.

The time frame for when Sharon admits she really took 100% control over Ozzy's image coincides after the marriage and after RR's death...when Ozzy started lapsing into his BATM / US Vegas period.

SilvioDante
02-26-2010, 06:02 AM
Ozzy is one person who should rim MTV's collective asshole on a daily basis.
He was gone !
Now he has merchandising empires, gets paid very nicely for advertising,
and I'm sure "The Osbournes" created more punters at his gigs once again...

I think we all got sucked into that show initially, I thought it was funny.
I thought that show was funny also....

I think the reason is, that in the entire history of this "reality TV" crap, Ozzy might have been the only one that didn't realize he was on TV. You got all natural Ozzy, no playing for the camera...

ELVIS
02-26-2010, 01:19 PM
The time frame for when Sharon admits she really took 100% control over Ozzy's image coincides after the marriage and after RR's death...when Ozzy started lapsing into his BATM / US Vegas period.

He looked a lot better than the steel panther bands of the time...

Seshmeister
02-26-2010, 02:06 PM
I thought that show was funny also....

I think the reason is, that in the entire history of this "reality TV" crap, Ozzy might have been the only one that didn't realize he was on TV. You got all natural Ozzy, no playing for the camera...

True and that was what was so good at first.

Sharon kept the right to edit anything though and after a while you could tell it wasn't quite as honest a show as it first appeared.

Terry
02-26-2010, 08:57 PM
He looked a lot better than the steel panther bands of the time...

He did?