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standin
09-05-2009, 01:24 PM
Mr. Majlaton might just might have the answer to the Israel/Palestine crunch.
Rental Agents are needed. Intercourse, (Mr. Green Jeans thinking of ya. And helping make the world a cleaner place one word at a time ;) ) might as well send our real estate agents too. And most definitely need to send a certain sort of our loan officers. :biggrin:



By BEN HUBBARD, Associated Press Writer Ben Hubbard, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 45 mins ago


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JERUSALEM – Yousef Majlaton moved into the Jerusalem neighborhood of Pisgat Zeev for such comforts as proper running water and regular garbage pickup. But he represents a potentially volatile twist in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute over the holy city.

The hillside sprawl of townhouses and apartment blocks was built for Jews, and Majlaton is a Palestinian.

Pisgat Zeev is part of Israel's effort to fortify its presence in Jerusalem's eastern half which it captured in the 1967 war.

But Majlaton, his wife and three kids are among thousands who have crossed the housing lines to Pisgat Zeev and neighborhoods like it in a migration that is raising tempers among some Jewish residents.

It wasn't so much the politics of this contested city that drew Majlaton to Pisgat Zeev, however; it was the prospect of escaping the potholed roads and scant municipal services he endured for 19 years while renting in an Arab neighborhood.

"You see that air conditioner?" he said, pointing to the large wall unit cooling his living room. "In the Arab areas, the electricity is too weak to run one that big."

Majlaton, 50, says some Jewish neighbors are warming up to him, but the influx bothers others, who say they're thinking of moving out or refuse to sell or rent to Arabs.

This is much more than a simple matter of real estate. Demographics could figure heavily in how Jerusalem is partitioned in a future peace deal. If that happens, it is expected the city will be split along ethnic lines — Jewish neighborhoods to Israel, Arab neighborhoods to Palestine.

Palestinians see east Jerusalem as their future capital. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vows the whole city will remain united as Israel's capital.

Palestinians have long accused those among them who sell land to Jews of betraying their homeland, and last week similar language was heard from a group of rabbis. Meeting in Pisgat Zeev, they issued an edict denouncing Jews who sell land to Arabs as "traitors" and barring them from participating in communal prayers.

"This is a war, and if the Arabs conquer one neighborhood, they will conquer others and they will strangle the Jews," said Hillel Weiss, a spokesman for the "New Sanhedrin," which takes its name from the supreme court of ancient Israel.

In 2007, the latest year with available statistics, about 1,300 of Pisgat Zeev's 42,000 residents were Arabs. In nearby French Hill, population 7,000, nearly one-sixth are Arabs, among them students at the neighboring Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Neve Yaakov, with 20,000 people, had 600 Arabs, according to the Israel Center for Jerusalem Studies, a respected think tank.

Weeks after the 1967 war, Israel annexed east Jerusalem with its major Jewish, Muslim and Christian holy sites in a move recognized by no other country. It continues to build housing in sensitive areas in defiance of U.S. protests.

Netanyahu says Arabs have the right to live anywhere in the city, and so should Jews, though the Old City's Jewish Quarter is closed to Arabs.

Jerusalem's mayor and city councilors are all Jewish. Almost all the city's Arabs refuse to vote or run in municipal elections, saying that would be recognition of Israeli rule. But it deprives them of clout in competition for city spending.

Today, while west Jerusalem is overwhelmingly Jewish, the eastern half is an ethnic checkerboard. More than 180,000 Jews live there, most in places like Pisgat Zeev but also in enclaves in Arab areas. Nearly all the city's 220,000 Palestinians live in eastern neighborhoods.

Ironically, much of the Arab migration was set off by the separation barrier which Israel started building through the West Bank in 2002 during a wave of suicide bombings. Its Jerusalem segment meanders to scoop up as many Jewish areas as possible and make several Arab neighborhoods a part of the West Bank.

The wall stranded tens of thousands of Jerusalem Arabs on the "West Bank side," and many moved to Arab neighborhoods on the Jerusalem side for easier access to jobs and schools. But a housing shortage in those districts is pushing the overflow into Jewish areas, residents and real estate agents said.

These areas are "less crowded, you can live in a house, and there are streets, parks and places to play," said Moukhless Abu el-Hof, an Israeli Arab lawyer who owns a home in Pisgat Zeev. "In the Arab neighborhoods, there's nothing."

Jewish resident Shlomi Cohen, 37, said the Arab influx made him sell up and move elsewhere in Pisgat Zeev. "If an Arab comes to live in the building and someone wants to buy and he knows there is an Arab there, he will not buy," he said.

Yael Antebi, editor of the Pisgat Zeev community newspaper and a Jerusalem city council member, said Arab and Jewish teens sometimes brawl, Arab youth often harass Jewish girls, and parents fear their daughters will date Arabs.

Majlaton and his wife are both Hebrew-speaking Christians. He said his new neighbors cold-shouldered them when they arrived in 2002, but gradually became friendlier.

He said he has since helped about 30 Arab families to move in and gets calls from prospective renters almost every day.

While his primary motivation was quality of life, he says living in Pisgat Zeev is "a nationalistic act" — a way to cement Arab presence in the city of his birth.

He said Palestinian leaders should follow his lead.

"They should bring all the Arabs to Pisgat Zeev," he said. "I'll help them find homes one by one."

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AP correspondent Amy Teibel contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090905/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_changing_jerusalem

Anonymous
09-16-2009, 11:56 AM
Sshhh, leave the nice people alone, and go take care of your kid. Remember him?

That thing you're posting about never happened, it was all an illusion caused by meds & booze.

Now go away.

Shithead. :shiznit:

ZahZoo
09-16-2009, 03:28 PM
That's not very neighborly Imapus...

Anonymous
09-16-2009, 04:41 PM
I'm not a good neighbour. And this psycho has tread on my toes long enough.

She picked the wrong target.

Cheers! :bottle:

ZahZoo
09-17-2009, 08:43 AM
You may not have noticed... but in the realm of normal people... you aren't exactly seated at the head table.

We're all a bit loony here... generally what you think you hate the most about others is really what you see in yourself and don't like! Ponder that...

Anonymous
09-17-2009, 11:56 AM
You may not have noticed... but in the realm of normal people... you aren't exactly seated at the head table.

We're all a bit loony here... generally what you think you hate the most about others is really what you see in yourself and don't like! Ponder that...

You have no clue what this is, do you?

Look here, if you can be bothered.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/56373-mom-finds-long-lost-son-online-then-rapes-him.html

As for being normal, I never claimed that. And don't bring that psychological bullshit on me. I am quite aware of the phenomenon of seeing your faults on another, but if you're comparing ME to this stalking, heavily medicated bitch, I may have to be pissed of.

I'll just go with the thought you have no idea what you're talking about, and are just making assumptions.

I have received a couple of PMs from people who have been attacked and/or stalked out of nowhere by this alcoholic lunatic. She's banned from other sites.

Once again, if you're comparing me to this crazed drug addict, I may have to be pissed of.

I'll just leave it at this, now. Your call.

Cheers! :bottle:

ZahZoo
09-17-2009, 03:17 PM
You have no clue what this is, do you?

Look here, if you can be bothered.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/non-vh-dlr-related-stuff/56373-mom-finds-long-lost-son-online-then-rapes-him.html

As for being normal, I never claimed that. And don't bring that psychological bullshit on me. I am quite aware of the phenomenon of seeing your faults on another, but if you're comparing ME to this stalking, heavily medicated bitch, I may have to be pissed of.

I'll just go with the thought you have no idea what you're talking about, and are just making assumptions.

I have received a couple of PMs from people who have been attacked and/or stalked out of nowhere by this alcoholic lunatic. She's banned from other sites.

Once again, if you're comparing me to this crazed drug addict, I may have to be pissed of.

I'll just leave it at this, now. Your call.

Cheers! :bottle:

Actually I have much more than a clue to go on here... you may be the one jumping to conclusions in the wrong area.

Back when the Army Julia posted those nude pics and the hoopla that occurred over her alleged age... the meltdown of Hyman Roth and the Mezro Crimes Against Humanity forum deletions were occurring...

The DDLR.com admins were following the debatchery going down here... At that time we had a member with the Julia user name, who I believe is the present day standin member here.

Being cuntcerned about the issue of minors posting inappropriate content... I personally approached the mods here with IP and whois data on the Julia posting on DDLR. I believe I PM'ed with both Ford & NickDfresh on this issue, maybe a couple of others.

Based on the data comparisons... we determined that the internet source for the boob pics here was not the same source of the member at DDLR. IP's were no where close geographically and both were from legit ISP's with no proxy wizardry involved. In simple terms... we're talking about 2 different people with the same user name.

Granted I'm an old fuck but my memory ain't that bad... you can check with Sesh, Igo, twona, etc... they probably remember the discussions that went on in our webbie forum on DDLR.

Yes, standin brings a different perspective to subjects here than most... you may consider her whacky, but seriously she's no more whacky than a couple dozen other knotheads who post here daily. But I really don't want to see anyone unfairly attacked for something that they didn't do...

If I'm wrong so be it. I'm 100% human... but I believe I'm about 98% confident your young booby poster isn't the same person you've decided to jihad against...

Anonymous
09-17-2009, 04:41 PM
Aaaahhh, now I get why you got yourself involved in this...

You know what's funny? We both jumped to conclusions, and we were both wrong.

I had no beef with the Julia that posted her tits. In fact, I wouldn't even care about THIS Julia, if she hadn't attacked ME twice already, the last being on that thread I pointed out.

I dunno if they're the same, and I don't care.

STANDIN has come after me twice, and that's one time too many. While I asked her to back off in the first instance - and she did - I will do no such thing this second time.

I don't pick fights, and you should know this by now. All those thinly veiled jabs at my sexuality would probably be more than reason enough for any arsehole trying to play the tough guy in the internet to go full on against you, but I view them as nothing more than jokes.

However, if someone chooses to explicitly attack me and then thinks s/he can run away, well... not on your nelly.

She's done it twice. She's done.

Cheers! :bottle:

ZahZoo
09-18-2009, 10:55 AM
Aaaahhh, now I get why you got yourself involved in this...

You know what's funny? We both jumped to conclusions, and we were both wrong.

I had no beef with the Julia that posted her tits. In fact, I wouldn't even care about THIS Julia, if she hadn't attacked ME twice already, the last being on that thread I pointed out.

I dunno if they're the same, and I don't care.

STANDIN has come after me twice, and that's one time too many. While I asked her to back off in the first instance - and she did - I will do no such thing this second time.

I don't pick fights, and you should know this by now. All those thinly veiled jabs at my sexuality would probably be more than reason enough for any arsehole trying to play the tough guy in the internet to go full on against you, but I view them as nothing more than jokes.

However, if someone chooses to explicitly attack me and then thinks s/he can run away, well... not on your nelly.

She's done it twice. She's done.

Cheers! :bottle:

I'm glad you're clear on the case of the two different Julia's now.

I may not agree you were personally attacked in mom/bio-son incest thread. That's a pretty touchy moral mine field that some folks take very seriously... for good reason. Making light of the situation can be enough to rile someone who has no tolerance for the subject matter. But that's between y'all...

As far as my challenges to your manhood... sorry dude but you set yourself up too easily with your choice in words and attempts at playing internet tough guy standing far right of center in that arena. Then over compensate and dig the hole deeper. But you're right... it's all in fun and internet debatchery.

Nothin personal... try and remember that next time you "think" someone is attacking you. Most of us are here to be entertained or entertain oursleves... not lock into mortal battle over bullshit...

Dr. Love
09-18-2009, 11:21 AM
I'll have no flaming and arguing in my forum! Knock it off or I'll send you all to time out!

We're gonna be civilized in here, damnit!

Anonymous
09-18-2009, 03:49 PM
I'm glad you're clear on the case of the two different Julia's now.

Yeah, I am, and thanks. But doesn't really affect anything, because it's with STANDIN that I've got a problem with, so it doesn't really matter if she's Julia, Anne or Martinez.


I may not agree you were personally attacked in mom/bio-son incest thread. That's a pretty touchy moral mine field that some folks take very seriously... for good reason. Making light of the situation can be enough to rile someone who has no tolerance for the subject matter. But that's between y'all...

There's a whole lot of views on what can be considered a personal attack, and if you add background to it, it can be pretty confusing, so yeah, the best way to deal with such a situation is if you're not involved, stay away. I do that, too.


As far as my challenges to your manhood... sorry dude but you set yourself up too easily with your choice in words and attempts at playing internet tough guy standing far right of center in that arena. Then over compensate and dig the hole deeper. But you're right... it's all in fun and internet debatchery.

Don't apologize. Has it ever occurred to you that gay jokes may be incredibly funny to me? Couple that with the fact that I'm pretty sure about my sexual orientation, and I won't mind making fun of even myself, if it needs be. Like I said, you make thinly-veiled jokes that are funny. I don't mind that. And if I overcompensate is also on purpose, 'cuz I'm sure someone reading that back and forth between you & me will be having a laugh. And that's all that matters.

As long as none of us are trying to really insult one another, there's really no problem. Jokes & ribbing should be encouraged.

By the way, it's "debauchery", not "debatchery". You may have a good memory, but senility comes in many forms.


Nothin personal... try and remember that next time you "think" someone is attacking you. Most of us are here to be entertained or entertain oursleves... not lock into mortal battle over bullshit...

I think I can tell the difference when someone 's joking or attacking me... it may become blurred later on in life, you know, with age & stuff, but I think that I'm still pretty lucid. :)

Cheers! :bottle:

ZahZoo
09-19-2009, 04:21 PM
I'll have no flaming and arguing in my forum! Knock it off or I'll send you all to time out!

We're gonna be civilized in here, damnit!

Yes... your worship!!

:devils:

Guitar Shark
09-21-2009, 06:28 PM
I'll have no flaming and arguing in my forum! Knock it off or I'll send you all to time out!

We're gonna be civilized in here, damnit!

This is a very funny post considering the current animated vid in your sig. :D

Dr. Love
09-21-2009, 07:56 PM
It's a dramatization of what I'll do to those that challenge my rule! Shape up or have your balls set aflame and stomped on motherfuckers!

ZahZoo
09-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Another true Texas Goat Roper...

Dr Love's theme song...

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