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sadaist
09-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Obama chose this guy Van Jones to be his green jobs czar. Then things about his past started popping up as they always do with new people. Maybe he wasn't vetted deep enough, who knows. The main things I saw was when asked why Republicans were able to get things through congress before, why can't Democrats now with controlling both. His answer...Republicans are assholes. Doesn't bother me that he said that, but it really wasn't an answer.

He had also said some racial comments several times. But the biggie was that he was apparently a 9/11 truther. The ones who believe Bush & others knew about 9/11 before it happened and allowed it (or caused it...depending on who you talk to).

Anyways, he resigned over the weekend. Here's the article. Just curious on some of the thoughts around here.

Obama doesn't have a great track record so far of picking super people. I also don't like these people with a radical background, racial ideas, etc...being an adviser to the President on any subject.

sadaist
09-06-2009, 02:52 PM
Controversy over fiery remarks fells Obama adviser - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_adviser_resigns)


Controversy over fiery remarks fells Obama adviser

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer Will Lester, Associated Press Writer – 59 mins ago

WASHINGTON – The White House environmental adviser under fire for inflammatory statements made before he joined the administration resigned after what he called a "vicious smear campaign against me."

Van Jones "understood that he was going to get in the way" of President Barack Obama's agenda, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Sunday.

The resignation was disclosed without advance notice by the White House in a dead-of-the-night e-mail on a holiday weekend. It came as Obama is working to regain his footing in the contentious health care debate.

Jones, who specialized in environmentally friendly "green jobs" with the White House Council on Environmental Quality, was linked to efforts suggesting a government role in the Sept. 11 attacks and to derogatory comments about Republicans.

Gibbs said Obama did not endorse Van Jones' comments but thanked him for his service.

"What Van Jones decided was that the agenda of this president was bigger than any one individual," Gibbs said on ABC's "This Week.

Recent news reports cited a derogatory comment Jones made in the past about Republicans, and separately, of Jones' name appearing on a petition connected to the events surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks. That 2004 petition had asked for congressional hearings and other investigations into whether high-level government officials had allowed the attacks to occur.

"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."

Obama's top political adviser, David Axelrod, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that Jones "showed his commitment to the cause of creating green jobs in this country by removing himself as an issue."

Howard Dean, former head of the Democratic National Committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that he thought Jones "was brought down and I think it's too bad. Washington's a tough place that way, and I think it's a loss for the country."

Dean, a former Vermont government and Democratic presidential candidate, added: "All of us campaigning for office have had people throw clipboards in front of our face and ask us to sign. And he learned the hard way you ought not to do that. But I don't think he really thinks the government had anything to do with causing 9/11."

Jones said he has been "inundated with calls from across the political spectrum urging me to stay and fight." But he said he could not in good conscience ask his colleagues to spend time and energy defending or explaining his past.

Jones said in an earlier statement that he did not agree with the petition's stand on the Sept. 11 attacks and that "it certainly does not reflect my views, now or ever."

As for his other comments he made before joining Obama's team, Jones said, "If I have offended anyone with statements I made in the past, I apologize."

Despite his apologies, Republicans demanded Jones quit.

Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana said in a statement, "His extremist views and coarse rhetoric have no place in this administration or the public debate." Missouri Sen. Christopher "Kit" Bond said Congress should investigate Jones's fitness for the job.

Fox News Channel host Glenn Beck repeatedly denounced Jones after a group the adviser co-founded, ColorofChange.org, led an advertising boycott against Beck's show to protest his claim that Obama is a racist.

The president of Beck's media organization, Christopher J. Balfe, said the commentator had begun focusing on Jones' "radical beliefs" on July 16, before the group started taking on Beck.

But James Rucker, the organization's executive director, has said Jones had nothing to do with ColorofChange.org now and didn't even know about the campaign before it started.

Jones, well-known in the environmental movement, was a civil-rights activist in California before shifting his attention to environmental and energy issues. He is known for laying out a broad vision of a green economy. Conservatives have harshly criticized him for having left-wing political views.

Nancy Sutley, who heads the White House environmental council, said Jones "had been a strong voice for creating jobs that improve energy efficiency and utilize renewable resources.'

ULTRAMAN VH
09-06-2009, 05:34 PM
Another Obama appointee bites the dust, thats a shocker.:umm:

chefcraig
09-06-2009, 06:36 PM
I can't help it, yet every time I read that guy's name in the paper I thought of old SNL with Eddie Murphy...

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7701/velvetjones.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/velvetjones.jpg/)

GAR
09-06-2009, 06:42 PM
Obama chose this guy Van Jones to be his green jobs czar. Then ... he resigned over the weekend.

What an ASSHOLE~!! :fufu:

:welcomeflowrs::pwned::welcomeflowrs:

That XLNT hitpiece by Glen Beck just beforehand sure makes this ASSHOLES resignation sweeter. But because this appointments' a "brutha" thang, he'll probably get reappointed to a position of greater scrutiny - to distract from what is really going on.

GAR
09-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Howard Dean, former head of the Democratic National Committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that he thought Jones "was brought down and I think it's too bad. Washington's a tough place that way, and I think it's a loss for the country."

Fuck Howard Dean! I think it's too bad for Vermont he hasn't stepped down yet.. if Van Jones is the hill he wants to die on fuck him too!

sadaist
09-06-2009, 07:50 PM
I'm just expecting this week for people to come out and say it was because he was black...that's why he was driven out. Which is a bunch of bullshit.

GAR
09-06-2009, 08:02 PM
I think the Van Jones issue is going to go down in history as just the turning point the Republicans needed to say "hey look we told you so."

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Nitro Express
09-06-2009, 09:16 PM
I can't help it, yet every time I read that guy's name in the paper I thought of old SNL with Eddie Murphy...

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7701/velvetjones.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/velvetjones.jpg/)

I remember Velvet Jones and his old SNL scams. LOL! The Eddie Murphy character and a 2009 politicial have a lot in common.

Nitro Express
09-06-2009, 09:18 PM
I'm just expecting this week for people to come out and say it was because he was black...that's why he was driven out. Which is a bunch of bullshit.

Obama is half white. Maybe the angry white male racist in him took over and canned the dude's ass.

ELVIS
09-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Obama is half white ??

Who would have known....

GAR
09-07-2009, 01:46 AM
He has just accepted a position as Unemployment Benefits Czar!

Nickdfresh
09-07-2009, 04:45 AM
I wonder if an illegal Mexican alien stole his jobz?

GAR
09-07-2009, 11:56 AM
um.. he quit dinnee?

sadaist
09-07-2009, 12:40 PM
It really goes to show just how bad unemployment is right now when the Jobs Czar is unemployed.

Nitro Express
09-08-2009, 12:24 AM
Obama is half white ??

Who would have known....

He covers the white half with skin tint. Obama chose to look black like how Michael Jackson chose to look white.

GAR
09-08-2009, 12:26 AM
It's like Pelosi says about Republicans and how clever the Democrats' distraction machine can be.

I want to know what was the real deal going on this weekend while this dumbass was absorbing all the media blogs.. what are they gonna pass tomorrow we'll have 30 years to pay off?

ZahZoo
09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
I think the Van Jones issue is going to go down in history as just the turning point the Republicans needed to say "hey look we told you so."

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Interesting you chose to embed a Hendrix clip...

I had been following this Van Jones deal for a few weeks and it reminded of when Jimi bent to the pressures of the black community and it didn't all work out so nicely when the radical elements of the Black Panters got involved during the Band of Gypsys era...

I guess we could call this Van Jones thing Obama's Band of Gypsys attempt...

standin
09-08-2009, 06:23 PM
Could ya explain that bit of information, Zahzoo?

I only found this...
Jimi Hendrix and The Band of Gypsys or That's What Happens When Earth Fucks With Space (http://www.soul-patrol.com/funk/jh_bog.htm)
*warning way too busy background with poor font and color of font choice.

GAR
09-08-2009, 10:41 PM
Interesting you chose to embed a Hendrix clip...

I had been following this Van Jones deal for a few weeks and it reminded of when Jimi bent to the pressures of the black community and it didn't all work out so nicely when the radical elements of the Black Panters got involved during the Band of Gypsys era...

I guess we could call this Van Jones thing Obama's Band of Gypsys attempt...

You hit the nail on the head Zahzoo!

The severed tentacle of Van Jones floating in the open currents will give the stupid GOP the opportunity to smell the coming blood frenzy ESPECIALLY since Congress is readjoining with a lotta fuckin' bruises from the town-hall meetings.

It didn't work out for Hendrix to add pro-Leftist Black statements in his music (".. and for all the soldiers fighting in Chicago..) like it didn't work for Obama to have a pro-leftist Backtivist Czar appointee so I see a connection and the tide of support turning back.

The difference between Hendrix and Obama though, is Hendrix wasn't a Panther and Obama is a wanna-be. It's not like he and Van Jones drove around South Central in a '79 Mercury wagon filled with hundreds of Molotavs, torching up all those Korean businesses down Western and Crenshaw from Olympic on down past Imperial.. ah, no. That would make Obama a Panther for sure. But that never happened..

Nitro Express
09-09-2009, 12:32 AM
You hit the nail on the head Zahzoo!

The severed tentacle of Van Jones floating in the open currents will give the stupid GOP the opportunity to smell the coming blood frenzy ESPECIALLY since Congress is readjoining with a lotta fuckin' bruises from the town-hall meetings.

It didn't work out for Hendrix to add pro-Leftist Black statements in his music (".. and for all the soldiers fighting in Chicago..) like it didn't work for Obama to have a pro-leftist Backtivist Czar appointee so I see a connection and the tide of support turning back.

The difference between Hendrix and Obama though, is Hendrix wasn't a Panther and Obama is a wanna-be. It's not like he and Van Jones drove around South Central in a '79 Mercury wagon filled with hundreds of Molotavs, torching up all those Korean businesses down Western and Crenshaw from Olympic on down past Imperial.. ah, no. That would make Obama a Panther for sure. But that never happened..

I used to live by Syracuse University and not too far was the welfare projects full of mostly black people living off the system. Basically serfs to be exploited by people like Obama because they are tottaly dependant on the government and what the Obama types want is their votes and a band of protestors when needed. Of course they get a few crumbs for their trouble while the community organizers live pretty damn well.

GAR
09-09-2009, 01:06 AM
".. you like all the other conservative Republicans are just upset because Obamas' gonna be helping out the poor people" - Rev. Jeremiah White

ZahZoo
09-09-2009, 09:38 AM
Could ya explain that bit of information, Zahzoo?

I only found this...
Jimi Hendrix and The Band of Gypsys or That's What Happens When Earth Fucks With Space (http://www.soul-patrol.com/funk/jh_bog.htm)
*warning way too busy background with poor font and color of font choice.

Sure... As Jimi's fame climbed in the US. which coincided with the peak of the civil rights movements... he was getting a lot of pressures from the blacks for "playing white people's music" and not using his global fame to promote civil rights and the racial battles going on in the US.

Following Woodstock in late 1969 he disbanded the Gypsy Sun & Rainbows group he had put together. He also had settled a long time lawsuit from Ed Chalpin to provide an album from a previous contract signed just before he made it big.

At the urging of his old friends from Halem who had put Jimi up in 1966 in NYC, Aurther and Albert Allen, who had converted to muslim and had ties with the Harlem Black Panthers... they convinced Jimi to form an all black band and add more "soul" music to show support for the civil rights movement and "the brothers"...

Hendrix agreed and pulled off the Band of Gypsys shows on New Years 69/70. The Black Panthers ended up creating nothing but trouble for Hendrix and within a month he abandoned that whole mess... during which his managment was trying to put the original Experience back together. Jimi dumped the radical elements and Noel Redding... split the deck and retained Billy Cox on bass.

Long story... but I drew a coorelation between Hendrix bending to the more radical black movement and it causing him nothing ut unwanted trouble. Sorta appeared to me that Obama had done the same thing... embraced, then dumped it due to it dragging him down with the BS...

I do feel dirty though now having agreed with anything with Gar...

lesfunk
09-09-2009, 12:12 PM
".. you like all the other conservative Republicans are just upset because Obamas' gonna be helping out the poor people" - Rev. Jeremiah White

Actually, he said " like all the other Racist, white, republicans"...

standin
09-09-2009, 03:14 PM
Sure... As Jimi's fame climbed in the US. which coincided with the peak of the civil rights movements... he was getting a lot of pressures from the blacks for "playing white people's music" and not using his global fame to promote civil rights and the racial battles going on in the US.

Following Woodstock in late 1969 he disbanded the Gypsy Sun & Rainbows group he had put together. He also had settled a long time lawsuit from Ed Chalpin to provide an album from a previous contract signed just before he made it big.

At the urging of his old friends from Halem who had put Jimi up in 1966 in NYC, Aurther and Albert Allen, who had converted to muslim and had ties with the Harlem Black Panthers... they convinced Jimi to form an all black band and add more "soul" music to show support for the civil rights movement and "the brothers"...

Hendrix agreed and pulled off the Band of Gypsys shows on New Years 69/70. The Black Panthers ended up creating nothing but trouble for Hendrix and within a month he abandoned that whole mess... during which his managment was trying to put the original Experience back together. Jimi dumped the radical elements and Noel Redding... split the deck and retained Billy Cox on bass.

Long story... but I drew a coorelation between Hendrix bending to the more radical black movement and it causing him nothing ut unwanted trouble. Sorta appeared to me that Obama had done the same thing... embraced, then dumped it due to it dragging him down with the BS...

I do feel dirty though now having agreed with anything with Gar...
Thanks. I understand the comparison now.
Racism is racism no matter who is saying you are this so you gotta be like that.
Gar, is a good example of what the black panthers was like I guess.

You should probably take a complete shower and bath, use the Lava (tm) soap too. You'll quit smelling in a few days. I don't think tomato juice works for the Gar's-beliefs-oder.