Obama’s years in office, the deficit is projected to be larger than under Bush

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  • Fuct Jup
    Head Fluffer
    • Nov 2006
    • 236

    Obama’s years in office, the deficit is projected to be larger than under Bush

    The Bush-era deficits were bad. I know. I spent eight years complaining about the president’s lack of fiscal responsibly (here and here for instance). I even wrote that Republicans during Bush’s time in office made French socialists look like Reagan. However, President Obama's new projected deficits are truly frightening. And the worse part: we haven’t seen it all yet.

    Based on Congressional Budget Office (CBO) data, the following chart shows a projection of deficit numbers for each year until fiscal 2018. Each color represents the difference between the projected deficits at different points in time. The purple bars represent the deficit numbers as they were projected back in September 2008; the black and red bars represent the difference between the projected deficits at other points in time. The black bars represent the growth in the projected deficit numbers between September 2008 and January 2009. The red bars represent the difference between the January 2009 projections and the new deficit numbers as projected in August 2009. Finally, the orange bars represent the actual deficit numbers during President Clinton’s last year in office (fiscal 2001) and President Bush’s two terms.



    First, while President Obama is fond of promoting what he calls a "new ethic of responsibility"—in fact he named his first budget, for fiscal 2010, "A New Era of Responsibility"—that is a misrepresentation of his actual budget plan. For each of Obama’s years in office, the deficit is projected to be larger than any year during Bush’s terms.

    Second, Obama is right to note that he inherited a large deficit in fiscal 2009. But as we can see here, he is responsible for growing the deficit beyond expectations in fiscal 2009 and thereafter. In fact, in its January 2009 projections, the CBO built in most of the Bush-era policy spending, including the TARP bailout (which President Obama voted for as a senator) and the takeovers of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In spite of his rhetoric, President Obama bears most of the responsibility for the red part of the bar in fiscal 2009, which includes, among other things, some auto bailouts and $31 billion of additional funding for the omnibus bill, the share of the stimulus funding spent in that fiscal year.

    Third, Obama’s deficits are frightening but they promise to get worse. Each month that goes by the president adds spending to the deficit. The August 2009 projections for instance, do not include any of the president’s healthcare reform spending and they assume that the “temporary” stimulus spending will not be prolonged past fiscal 2011. Finally, they also assume that the economy will recover soon and that it will grow enough to generate increasing tax revenue, in spite of the president’s plan to impose new taxes and regulations on the private sector. In other words, the deficit will likely continue to deteriorate beyond the current projections.

    The president is right. A new era has started. It’s an era of even bigger government.


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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49136

    #2
    You mean like the GOP controlled "conservative" congress that legitimized and voted for every single Bush policy leading to the debt?

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      Dude, Obahhmah is finished. He's losing support from those who supported and voted him into office...

      He's done nothing besides spend money, kill jobs, sell off the auto industry and help come up with a 900 billion health care train-wreck that I pray will never pass...

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49136

        #4
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        Dude, Obahhmah is finished.
        He is?

        He's losing support from those who supported and voted him into office...
        Some. He'll gain a good deal back though as the economy rights itself. Just like Reagan. Just like Clinton did...

        He's done nothing besides spend money, kill jobs, sell off the auto industry and help come up with a 900 billion health care train-wreck that I pray will never pass...
        When you say "spend money," you mean like all politicians do? Even the mouthbreathers you vote for? He didn't kill jobs, fool. The Recession did. In fact, without the Stimulus, we'd be far worse off.

        And I'll take a 900 billion dollar health care plan over the current fucking multi-trillion dollar train wreck that is leaving the middle classes behind...

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49136

          #5
          And Elvis, this is all your fault really. If you hadn't supported and voted for the Bush Administration, which according to your beliefs, murdered everyone on 9/11 with their diabolical "inside job," we wouldn't be in this...

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          • Jesus Christ
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 2428

            #6
            Nicodemus, on the Last Day, when all the books are opened and all the secrets are known, ye will be surprised what the House of Bush hath done.

            Verily, it is sometimes a real bitch to knoweth everything.

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Well, Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden...

              LMAO!

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              • Jesus Christ
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2428

                #8
                Indeed he did, Gregory. And he came much closer than the Son of Bush ever did, actually hitting a location where Osama had been just hours before.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49136

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  Well, Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden...

                  LMAO!
                  You see this is where your true "genius" comes out of the closet. On the one hand, Bill Clinton is an asshole because he failed to kill Bin Laden. But on the other hand, you love Bush and continue to defend him and voted for him twice despite believing that he must have been behind 9/11? So, in your little demented world of fundamentalist Christianity and your second religion of conspiracy on the radio, you seem rather confused...

                  Which is it Flo?

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    It was a joke, cockforbreath...

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                    • letsrock
                      Veteran
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1595

                      #11
                      Bush at least gave the money back to the people, little as it was.
                      Obama is only giving money back as favors to those to helped put him in office.
                      How many Czars does he have now?

                      It only will take one to pull the trigger.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58759

                        #12
                        Bush "gave the money back" to rich bastards who dodge their taxes. That (and the Iraq fuckup) is WHY this country is in such a fucking financial mess.

                        The solution: Tax the goddamn rich leeches. Repeal all tax cuts back to the Eisenhower era, and make it retroactive for anyone with more than $10 million.

                        Also, restore the inheritance tax, and make it 100% on all wealth that is more than a generation old. Anyone who truly creates wealth from their own work should be able to leave it to their children. But their great great great grandchildren should NOT be living off of it while the country suffers.

                        Class warfare? You bet your ass. And it's about time we started fighting back.
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                        • letsrock
                          Veteran
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1595

                          #13
                          Just like a National sales tax wont work because the Rothchilds, and others that inherited money from way back, look at it as a tax just on there money, because they have no income. No tax.

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                          • letsrock
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1595

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Bush "gave the money back" to rich bastards who dodge their taxes. That (and the Iraq fuckup) is WHY this country is in such a fucking financial mess.

                            The solution: Tax the goddamn rich leeches. Repeal all tax cuts back to the Eisenhower era, and make it retroactive for anyone with more than $10 million.

                            Also, restore the inheritance tax, and make it 100% on all wealth that is more than a generation old. Anyone who truly creates wealth from their own work should be able to leave it to their children. But their great great great grandchildren should NOT be living off of it while the country suffers.

                            Class warfare? You bet your ass. And it's about time we started fighting back.
                            I totally agree. Problem is everyone will still vote all the incumbents right back in. No term limits or anything. And so it goes.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              Obama really hasn't been able to get his shit accomplished. The bankers bailout started under Bush and McCain would have done the same as Obama. So we were getting that devistating shit no matter what. Obama is out to break the independant business people with cap and trade and health care. He wants to make everyone dependant on the government. He's going to make your taxes and overhead enormous and then force you to provide expensive healthcare for your employees. This will just run the small businesses out of business. He's just the next chapter in the corporate bought executive branch.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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