Icke v/s the old testament gods (the reptilians)

[Nabakov]

I came across an incredible book awhile back called Jehovah Unmasked. Its claim is that the old testament has an entirely different god, the one who sends people out to kill in his name. I didn't get to read it but I did real The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Page. According to some of the gnostic traditions, many of them believed that the true God was separate from the creator which is the being in the old testament. From the gnostic viewpoint, in Genesis, the old God is the jealous, manipulative being who says "I am a jealous God" whereas the serpent, a symbol of wisdom asks man to know himself.

And there you have Icke's reptilians. That's his claim anyway, that these are the superior beings worshipped around the middle east and everywhere else. It would agree with the gnostic tradition of respected people like Valentinius who spoke of this different creator that the roman church bowed down to. Icke said back in 91 that people evolve into being creators who came down in different forms... so Christianity, Islam and every other religion gets these manipulative beings who according to Valentinius, said in their foolishness that there is no other God before them. You don't have to take Icke's word for it. The Gnostic Gospels is one of the popular books on gnosticism (ironically funded by the Rockefeller foundation). I just find it interesting that it can be tied in with Icke and certainly explains more than anything ever said in a sermon.

[Nitro Express]

The Rockefeller Foundation started the National Council of Church's. The Rockefellers want global government and knew the Christian churchs were going to be a problem so they infiltrated them. They are behind a lot of this new age stuff and the rapture stuff. That's so when they do start to crack down and push the global agenda hard, the Christians or New Agers will just passively view it as their consciouseness or rapture is at hand. Icke is just a new age shill. I wouldn't be suprised if the Rothchilds aren't behind him.

[FORD]

Pedobear wants one of Rockefeller's great great great grandchildren "behind" him.

[standin]

It took ya long enough to spot Pedo.

[Nabakov]

The Rockefeller Foundation started the National Council of Church's. The Rockefellers want global government and knew the Christian churchs were going to be a problem so they infiltrated them. They are behind a lot of this new age stuff and the rapture stuff. That's so when they do start to crack down and push the global agenda hard, the Christians or New Agers will just passively view it as their consciouseness or rapture is at hand. Icke is just a new age shill. I wouldn't be suprised if the Rothchilds aren't behind him.

Icke is very against the new age.

The idea of different old testament gods doesn't come from Icke, it existed amongst gnostic sects. If you ask me most things about gnosticism makes a hell of a lot more sense than traditional Christianity. Even as a somewhat regular Christian I could never take Genesis, Job and the commandments to kill seriously. For that matter I considered myself Christian without believing in the Christ died for our sins theory. Never did wash with me... the Jews had lamb offerings to God, so now the messiah offers himself up for a blood sacrifice to atone for original sin? And original sin... there's another silly concept. Now gnosticism makes far more sense in approaching God through contemplation and rejecting dogma and ritual.

But the point is, none of these are modern ideas. If you want to speak of Rothschilds, well then his family roots go back to powerful families who just might have established Christianity and the bible in its present form. I have become (even more) disillusioned with those in power and Christianity was clearly established on the words of bishops who claimed authority for themselves based on some imagined heirarchy that existed in heaven. Sure... they were in a battle for control with the gnostics who said they were instructed by Paul and Jesus in the real mysteries of spirituality. Christianity was designed for the unwashed masses; the ones who were mature were initiated into the secret wisdom. All knowing and infinitely merciful does not compute with fear and the "thou shalts." It's immature and based on fear. I always had a feeling that by contrast the serpent in Genesis seemed very sensible, though I feared it was deception.

Which brings us back to the old testament god. Who from the OT itself is clearly a despot. The idea of the divine right of rule for kings is supposed to be an Annunaki tradition. They were about creating heirarchy's and having control. The creator certainly is 'the god of Israel.' The Abrahamic faiths are truly prison religions and their influence has transcended religion to society in general.

[bueno bob]

Icke is very against the new age.

The idea of different old testament gods doesn't come from Icke, it existed amongst gnostic sects. If you ask me most things about gnosticism makes a hell of a lot more sense than traditional Christianity. Even as a somewhat regular Christian I could never take Genesis, Job and the commandments to kill seriously. For that matter I considered myself Christian without believing in the Christ died for our sins theory. Never did wash with me... the Jews had lamb offerings to God, so now the messiah offers himself up for a blood sacrifice to atone for original sin? And original sin... there's another silly concept. Now gnosticism makes far more sense in approaching God through contemplation and rejecting dogma and ritual.

But the point is, none of these are modern ideas. If you want to speak of Rothschilds, well then his family roots go back to powerful families who just might have established Christianity and the bible in its present form. I have become (even more) disillusioned with those in power and Christianity was clearly established on the words of bishops who claimed authority for themselves based on some imagined heirarchy that existed in heaven. Sure... they were in a battle for control with the gnostics who said they were instructed by Paul and Jesus in the real mysteries of spirituality. Christianity was designed for the unwashed masses; the ones who were mature were initiated into the secret wisdom. All knowing and infinitely merciful does not compute with fear and the "thou shalts." It's immature and based on fear. I always had a feeling that by contrast the serpent in Genesis seemed very sensible, though I feared it was deception.

Which brings us back to the old testament god. Who from the OT itself is clearly a despot. The idea of the divine right of rule for kings is supposed to be an Annunaki tradition. They were about creating heirarchy's and having control. The creator certainly is 'the god of Israel.' The Abrahamic faiths are truly prison religions and their influence has transcended religion to society in general.

You sound very, very dumb.

[Nabakov]

Gasp, it's Rational Man! What are you doing away from the safety of your regular rational topics?? Away from the peer reviewed logic of man-made global warming and CHANGE?

[Goldfinger]

Before you read a book about the Old Testament, maybe you should read the Old Testament itself.


AFTER reading that, then maybe you can draw your own conclusions that has not been flawed by human error.

[FORD]

Before you read a book about the Old Testament, maybe you should read the Old Testament itself.


AFTER reading that, then maybe you can draw your own conclusions that has not been flawed by human error.

Don't bother arguing with "Nabakov". He's a recurring pedophile troll who won't be here much longer. Or at least until he finds a new proxy server and another obvious alias.

[Nabakov]

I've read the whole thing.

[Nabakov]

flawed by human error.

Even when I read the bible on occasion and believed I never thought it was free of human error. This is one big flaw in people... which I was guilty of too. It's that God would serve people the truth about everything in the form of a book. If you want to know what the nature of existence is you'd have to go looking for it yourself not listening to a preacher. Spirituality is something you evolve towards in maturity and experience, not approached through guidelines in a book. The fear inherent in Christianity stops this maturity from taking place in followers. It isn't wrong to ask the most "blasphemous" questions; and eternal damnation is a sick joke made up by power hungry assholes way back then.

[standin]

Is this what you discuss with your prepubescent niece while violating her?

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[Nitro Express]

Yeah. Those rotten Abrahamic seed. The Babylonians and Caananites were much better throwing children into firey furnaces to please their annunaki Gods. It was all about preserving a blood line then once the Messiah was born preserving the blood line was no longer necessary.

There is no original sin. There is the fallen world which the only way to get out of it is to be perfect. Impossible for mortal men so we needed some help. Jesus was the help. Show me another God who was willing to incarnate and go through what Jesus did. The annunaki just wanted to be worshipped and sure they said eat, drink and be merry and send some virgins to us but what did they ever do for mankind? Nothing.

It all depends on the time you live and in our time the golden rule is the law. You can be self serving or you can serve others. It's pretty evident self-serving greed has ruined the world, not Christ's golden rule.

[Nitro Express]

If you think about it. It would be impossible to be a corrupt cult leader or run a exploiting religion while following Christ's golden rule. It would be impossible. As the bibles says,"Beware of false prophets." By their fruits ye shall know them. So what we have here is good advice and hopefully free will to choose.

[Jesus Christ]

I came across an incredible book awhile back called Jehovah Unmasked. Its claim is that the old testament has an entirely different god, the one who sends people out to kill in his name. I didn't get to read it but I did real The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Page. According to some of the gnostic traditions, many of them believed that the true God was separate from the creator which is the being in the old testament. From the gnostic viewpoint, in Genesis, the old God is the jealous, manipulative being who says "I am a jealous God" whereas the serpent, a symbol of wisdom asks man to know himself.

And there you have Icke's reptilians. That's his claim anyway, that these are the superior beings worshipped around the middle east and everywhere else. It would agree with the gnostic tradition of respected people like Valentinius who spoke of this different creator that the roman church bowed down to. Icke said back in 91 that people evolve into being creators who came down in different forms... so Christianity, Islam and every other religion gets these manipulative beings who according to Valentinius, said in their foolishness that there is no other God before them. You don't have to take Icke's word for it. The Gnostic Gospels is one of the popular books on gnosticism (ironically funded by the Rockefeller foundation). I just find it interesting that it can be tied in with Icke and certainly explains more than anything ever said in a sermon.

If ye thinketh that I am a reptile, then thou art an even bigger idiot than I thought. Now go to Hell and spam this board no more!