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Hardrock69
11-11-2009, 12:46 PM
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Mushroom
11-11-2009, 01:15 PM
my friend came back from Mendocino. she was working on an old high school friend's "farm" and brought back her own harvest. Just say I could pay $175/oz. This aint no cheap mexican shit - it's blue, purple, red, green - and his farm is not ran, owned nor operated by fucking Mexican cartel with illegals.

Kristy
11-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Cohen is right. There needs to be a revamping of the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 in which marijuana was thrown in to the mix out of racism and the fact it was being used by filthy hippies who were seen as degenerates by the Nixon Administration at the time. Mueller on the other hand, has absolutely no answer for the drug war other than the same old rhetoric of using "children" as tools that EVERYONE who has tried pot will eventually become a back alley street junkie. If Mueller had any statics based in fact presented before him he see that alcohol has caused more social problems, more violent and unnecessary deaths, and an increasing cost on our already fucked-up health care system.

Speaking of systems who does Mueller really work for, a Department of Justice or does he take stock in America's increasing (and scary) private prison industry where offenders serve years as non-violent criminals because they been busted for having more than an ounce of marijuana? And many of these so-called criminals end up being used as slave labor while those who own these private prison systems trade in human cattle for profit. Just say: "What in the fuck" when it comes to saying "no."

Lastly, if Mueller is so worried about children shooting heroin or popping meth after the introduction of one joint and then having to testify before a judicial Senate committee on all those parents who lost their child why not also be worried about all those children who are going to die by being caught up in the crossfire of his silly little drug war? I'm sure the statistics show that more children have died from stray bullets or botched police raids then they ever did by smoking pot.

Nitro Express
11-11-2009, 02:09 PM
My mom said marajuana grew wild on my grandfather's farm. It was considered a nuisance because the live stock would wander into it, eat it and go crazy. So she said they had to go around and chop it down and get rid of it. She said the last thing they wanted to do was smoke it and get high on it because why would a person want to do that with the nasty weed that caused so much havoc? She said that would be viewed as sniffing paint thinner for a high.

Kristy
11-11-2009, 03:31 PM
My mom said marajuana grew wild on my grandfather's farm. It was considered a nuisance because the live stock would wander into it, eat it and go crazy. So she said they had to go around and chop it down and get rid of it. She said the last thing they wanted to do was smoke it and get high on it because why would a person want to do that with the nasty weed that caused so much havoc? She said that would be viewed as sniffing paint thinner for a high.

Wow. I had no idea. How many of the livestock's parents had to grieve for their young when they stared using meth or heroin?

Blaze
11-11-2009, 04:39 PM
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Seshmeister
11-11-2009, 05:31 PM
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Do you think he is wearing a bra and panties under that suit?

jacksmar
11-12-2009, 06:14 AM
“filthy hippies who were seen as degenerates by the Nixon Administration”
They are filthy hippies and were easily coerced by a socialist agenda. History repeats itself every day with casual drug users. Under slick Willy some of these assholes made their way into government. FBHO is a casual drug user and easily coerced and the drug use has obviously fucked with his pathetic mind. Dumbass doesn’t know he has a cache of money waiting to lower the US debt. Fuck prevention and fuck treatment. Catch a yuppie with weed or cocaine and auction off the BMW and seize the house. FBHO loves the government taking shit that doesn’t belong to them. There’s 80 billion in tax free profits from casual use losers. Trace and confiscate their cash. Every casual drug user knows money is harder to replace than drugs. Make it tougher than drunk driving so the typical casual use asshole can’t show back at the office desk on Monday fidgeting like toy poodle needing shit a peach pit.

Go to jail with a murderer is a great answer and stop treating the kids that pop meth like children. Throw them in jail with a rapist. Flaunt the law if you’re an illegal fuck and get free plane trip back to your fucked part of the world. Hope your parachute works.

Casual drug use fucks can’t see the simple facts: Prisons are full because of drug use or alcohol use. 85&#37; of all crime relates back to casual drug use. From the obvious losers in black neighborhoods that steal and kill each other for a quick fix to the losers in the Chicano neighborhoods that do the same. Burglary, rape, murder, petty theft, grand theft, etc all can be linked to casual drug use.

Simple thought for dumbass drug users: Do you think legalizing cocaine wouldn't lead to an increase of cocaine use? Look at the amount of drinkers now. Health care costs for casual drug users? Forget about it.

Nixon had it right; go after the users. Reagan had it right; go after the dealers. Put the DEA back to work on both and the casual drug use losers can build their own prisons.

ELVIS
11-12-2009, 08:52 AM
But the "filthy hippies" are in Government now and they seem to have forgotten where they came from...

And marijuana isn't life-threatening dangerous, but it is a drug...


:elvis:

Coyote
11-12-2009, 10:55 AM
And marijuana isn't life-threatening dangerous, but it is a drug...


:elvis:

It's a plant. God-given, as well...

Hardrock69
11-12-2009, 02:38 PM
Medical marijuana gets a boost from major doctors group -- latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-marijuana-ama11-2009nov11%2C0%2C3003312.story?track=rss)




Medical marijuana gets a boost from major doctors group
The American Medical Assn. changes its policy to promote clinical research and development of cannabis-based medicines and alternative delivery methods.

By John Hoeffel

November 11, 2009

The American Medical Assn. on Tuesday urged the federal government to reconsider its classification of marijuana as a dangerous drug with no accepted medical use, a significant shift that puts the prestigious group behind calls for more research.

The nation's largest physicians organization, with about 250,000 member doctors, the AMA has maintained since 1997 that marijuana should remain a Schedule I controlled substance, the most restrictive category, which also includes heroin and LSD.

In changing its policy, the group said its goal was to clear the way to conduct clinical research, develop cannabis-based medicines and devise alternative ways to deliver the drug.

"Despite more than 30 years of clinical research, only a small number of randomized, controlled trials have been conducted on smoked cannabis," said Dr. Edward Langston, an AMA board member, noting that the limited number of studies was "insufficient to satisfy the current standards for a prescription drug product."

The decision by the organization's delegates at a meeting in Houston marks another step in the evolving view of marijuana, which an AMA report notes was once linked by the federal government to homicidal mania. Since California voters approved the use of medical marijuana in 1996, marijuana has moved steadily into the cultural mainstream spurred by the growing awareness that it can have beneficial effects for some chronically ill people.

This year, the Obama administration sped up that drift when it ordered federal narcotics agents not to arrest medical marijuana users and providers who follow state laws. Polls show broadening support for marijuana legalization.

Thirteen states allow the use of medical marijuana, and about a dozen more have considered it this year.

The AMA, however, also adopted as part of its new policy a sentence that admonishes: "This should not be viewed as an endorsement of state-based medical cannabis programs, the legalization of marijuana, or that scientific evidence on the therapeutic use of cannabis meets the current standards for a prescription drug product."

The association also rejected a proposal to issue a more forceful call for marijuana to be rescheduled.

Nevertheless, marijuana advocates welcomed the development. "They're clearly taking an open-minded stance and acknowledging that the evidence warrants a review. That is very big," said Bruce Mirken, a spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project. "It's not surprising that they are moving cautiously and one step at a time, but this is still a very significant change."

Advocates also noted that the AMA rejected an amendment that they said would have undercut the medical marijuana movement. The measure would have made it AMA's policy that "smoking is an inherently unsafe delivery method for any therapeutic agent, and therefore smoked marijuana should not be recommended for medical use."

Dr. Michael M. Miller, a psychiatrist who practices addiction medicine, proposed the amendment. "Smoking is a bad delivery system because you're combusting something and inhaling it," he said.

Reaction from the federal government was muted.

Dawn Dearden with the Drug Enforcement Administration said: "At this point, it's still a Schedule I drug, and we're going to treat it as such." The Food and Drug Administration declined to comment.

In a statement, the office of the White House drug czar reiterated the administration's opposition to legalization and said that it would defer to "the FDA's judgment that the raw marijuana plant cannot meet the standards for identity, strength, quality, purity, packaging and labeling required of medicine."

The DEA classifies drugs into five schedules, with the fifth being the least-restrictive. Schedule II drugs, such as cocaine and morphine, are considered to have a high potential for abuse, but also to have accepted medical uses.

Several petitions have been filed to reschedule marijuana. The first, filed in 1972, bounced back and forth between the DEA and the courts until it died in 1994. A petition filed in 2002 is under consideration.

Kris Hermes, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, said that advocates hoped the petition would receive more attention. "Given the change of heart by the AMA, there is every opportunity for the Obama administration to do just that," he said.

In a report released with its new policy, the AMA notes that the organization was "virtually alone" in opposing the first federal restrictions on marijuana, which were adopted in 1937. Cannabis had been used in various medicinal products for years, but fell into disuse in the early 20th century.

Sunil Aggarwal, a medical student at the University of Washington, helped spark the AMA's reconsideration after he researched marijuana's effect on 186 chronically ill patients. "I had reason to believe that there was medical good that could come from these products, and I wanted to see AMA policy reflect that," he said.

The AMA is not the only major doctors organization to rethink marijuana. Last year, the American College of Physicians, the second-largest physician group, called for "rigorous scientific evaluation of the potential therapeutic benefits of medical marijuana" and an "evidence-based review of marijuana's status as a Schedule I controlled substance."

Last month, the California Medical Assn. passed resolutions that declared the criminalization of marijuana "a failed public health policy" and called on the organization to take part in the debate on changing current policy.

Kristy
11-12-2009, 04:48 PM
Casual drug use fucks can’t see the simple facts: Prisons are full because of drug use or alcohol use. 85% of all crime relates back to casual drug use. From the obvious losers in black neighborhoods that steal and kill each other for a quick fix to the losers in the Chicano neighborhoods that do the same. Burglary, rape, murder, petty theft, grand theft, etc all can be linked to casual drug use.


Racist, misinformed idiot.

Mushroom
11-12-2009, 06:36 PM
Racist, misinformed idiot.

"White Punks On Dope" by The Tubes
Evans/Spooner/Steen


Teenage had a race for the night time
Spent my cash on every high I could find
Wasted time in every school in L.A.
Getting loose, I didn't care what the kids say

We're white punks on dope
Mom & Dad moved to Hollywood
Hang myself when I get enough rope
Can't clean up, though I know I should
White punks on dope
White punks on dope

Other dudes are living in the ghetto
But born in Pacific Heights don't seem much betto

We're white punks on dope
Mom & Dad live in Hollywood
Hang myself when I get enough rope
I can't clean up, though I know I should
White punks on dope
White punks on dope

I go crazy 'cause my folks are so fucking rich
Have to score when I get that rich white punk itch
Sounds real classy, living in a chateau
So lonely, all the other kids will never know

We're white punks on dope
Mom & Dad live in Hollywood
Hang myself when I get enough rope
Can't clean up, though I know I should
White punks on dope
White punks on dope

Hardrock69
11-12-2009, 06:43 PM
**Shhhh.....let him think he knows what he's talking about!**

:lol:

jacksmar
11-12-2009, 07:08 PM
Nice try slug trail. By the way, don’t confuse me with the way your parents raised you, dolt. Want stay on topic? Want to look at crime stats based on drugs? Typical Colorado twat, CU grad? Hanging on the lawn at the court house in Boulder?
Read the facts split tail.
Table 69 - Crime in the United States 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_69.html)

I didn't imply whites don't commit crimes skank. Pointing out factual data regarding black or Hispanic crime isn’t racist. Better look at what you’re saying troll. You’ll quickly find out that by your skewed definition of the word racist, you are a fucking liberal twat racist.

Back on topic.
Enjoy your weed. You'll find support from Nick and others here for your bullshit line of thought. Not hurting anything? Would you recommend getting behind the controls of a crane on one of Makovsky's buildings? How about letting one of your stoner friends drive you through a police traffic check?
Then who gets to pay for your chank bullshit?

Get stoned and then give her a date rape drink. Fuck her tits and come in her fucking greasy hair. Thanks loads (literally) for the weed to get you too stupid to know what the fuck hit you. Here's your tampon back.
Fucking flange.

jacksmar
11-12-2009, 07:16 PM
You weren't quiet enough HardRock.
http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/levine/Epidemic-of-Pot-Arrests-in-NYC-Aug-09.pdf

Thanks for the Guess her muff link. ;)

Mushroom
11-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Table 69 - Crime in the United States 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_69.html)



You do realize that your nifty little FBI chart doesn't say these were all drug-related crimes, committed by Blacks and Hispanics. and you're point is....?

Kristy
11-12-2009, 07:32 PM
Nice try slug trail. By the way, don’t confuse me with the way your parents raised you, dolt. Want stay on topic? Want to look at crime stats based on drugs? Typical Colorado twat, CU grad? Hanging on the lawn at the court house in Boulder?

Back on topic.

Enjoy your weed. You'll find support from Nick and others here for your bullshit line of thought. Not hurting anything? Would you recommend getting behind the controls of a crane on one of Makovsky's buildings? How about letting one of your stoner friends drive you through a police traffic check?
Then who gets to pay for your chank bullshit?

Looks like Jackie boy crawled out of his spider hole and bust life of dumpster diving to write me a line no mater how chaotic and incoherent. Why did you come back? Neighbors caught you stealing their cable and you could no longer compare you fat ugly ass with the Biggest Loser anymore?

Or were you trying to insult me in between your bouts of finger-sniffing waiting on word if the rest of your trailer park NASCAR watching rednecks really don't want you around anymore?

For one, fuckface, I no longer smoke weed, and if I did, of course I'd think "Gee, think I'll get behind the control of a fucking CRANE!" (off all things) Maybe I'd sit all day long in a vegetative state like you do Jackie boy and mull over crime statics that have no bearing on the subject. Then again, you always were one for pulling these weird-ass facts out of your welfare-receiving ass.

And two, you dumbass, I also no longer live in Boulder - but I can clearly see why you feel so threatened by the place (or any college town) after all, it's where people with a future for themselves go to get an education where in your backwoods racist-filled swamp of used motor oil, used engine blocks hanging from tree limbs, and that stench where daddy raped you behind the 55 gallon oil drum every day after school your academics must have climbed no higher and a lump of coal and a piece of slate where you learned to write "DuN't hERt mEh, pA" for an A+. The only insult you can ever bring to me is the historical (and actual) fact that the South never succeeded from the Union and you could possible reproduce yourself thus making for more in-breed moronic children in overalls that you'll abandon and all them "liberals" end up having to feed.

Better run along now, Jackie boy, before the librarians call the police on you.

Mushroom
11-12-2009, 07:36 PM
You weren't quiet enough HardRock.
http://dragon.soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/levine/Epidemic-of-Pot-Arrests-in-NYC-Aug-09.pdf

Thanks for the Guess her muff link. ;)

good little write-up describing NYPD "practicing arrests" on little minor violations for possession. Note they describe the strain on our resources and the long-term affect on harmless people sent to prison because of these practices. what was your point again? you should smoke a bowl and chill, come on over. My neighbor is black, I hope that doesn't alarm you.

Kristy
11-12-2009, 07:40 PM
You do realize that your nifty little FBI chart doesn't say these were all drug-related crimes, committed by Blacks and Hispanics. and you're point is....?


Mushroom, don't even try to argue with him. As you can see, Jackie Boy's higher synaptic functions no longer work (like the rest of his bloated body). This came from our Jackie Boy believing he could heat the inside of his trailer home with all that warm carbon monoxide from his rusting 1974 Torino he keeps parked outside (on blocks, of course) because, you know those damn liberals own all of the utilities- and I'm sure he'll show some irreverent and unfounded link to prove us all wrong.

Mushroom
11-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Mushroom, don't even try to argue with him. As you can see, Jackie Boy's higher synaptic functions no longer work (like the rest of his bloated body). This came from our Jackie Boy believing he could heat the inside of his trailer home with all that warm carbon monoxide from his rusting 1974 Torino he keeps parked outside (on blocks, of course) because, you know those damn liberals own all of the utilities- and I'm sure he'll show some irreverent and unfounded link to prove us all wrong.

You're Hot you're on Fire :notworthy:

jacksmar
11-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Try again little girl. Maybe you and your bullshit fat girlfriends would like to pose next to my Indycar? Remember the IndyCar conversation you dimwitted feckless shit stain?
Pegged your fat legged ass from the beginning. Called the pot smoker out like a cheap Greek wannabe at a snipe hunt. Or the Greek litter sister that is nothing more than a cunt full of lies and a heart full of broken promises. You are the typical pot smoking slut from Colorado. Hope your unwanted kid you decided to live with from your out of marriage loser doesn’t have the typical autistic traits most casual use fucks breed into society. Costs the rest of us real money.
As for fuckface, that’s like the scab calling the toilet the problem. I’m sure at your little CU college library the librarians like to fuck with your family. You keep noting your own psychosis. Why do Colorado broads continue this bullshit? Still wanting to be that football coaches daughter? Will that make your daddy happy? Called your life like a fat tube topped trailer park queen. Always bent over and on the rag.

Daddy? Why did you mention your Dad? Really fucked up aren’t you. Does your uncle call you something we should know about when he’s got you buns over knees?

Back to facts your twatness. Want to hear the truth on black on black crime or continue to stick your head so far up your ass you can taste the last of your brothers cock? Want to hear the truth on real redneck crime and the why the worthless fucks should be killed on sight for stealing ammonia tanks from honest, hard working farmers? Why does the local CVS in the Midwest report your relatives for buying too many C and D cell batteries?
Want to hear why so many Latino families are heading back to their bullshit part of the world? Head still buried in your fucking stuffed animal?

Try again casual use loser. Enjoy your weed that you don’t use anymore like FBHO, Bush, and Rush. They don’t use anymore either. Heh.

jacksmar
11-12-2009, 11:19 PM
By the way Ford, nice groan. Want in the conversation Mr Helper?

FORD
11-12-2009, 11:22 PM
Nah, I'm just laughing my ass off watching you embarrass yourself. :lmao:

Kristy
11-13-2009, 12:01 AM
Daddy? Why did you mention your Dad? Really fucked up aren’t you. Does your uncle call you something we should know about when he’s got you buns over knees?

I don't believe I did. As for your "Indy car" does run on two or three C cell batteries? Or are they more like the ones in your ankle bracelet? Really, no need to answer. Have fun staying warm this winter you FAT pathetic little racist.

FORD
11-13-2009, 12:11 AM
The irony of his racist mentally scrambled rant in this thread of all places.......

If anybody on this planet could use a bong hit or two, It's Jacksmear.
http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/b-for-bong.gif

jhale667
11-13-2009, 12:14 AM
Or are they more like the ones in your ankle bracelet?

:lmao:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/jhale667/Insult%20comic/Racistowned.jpg


Do yourself a favor Jerksmear aka racist douche...have a bongload and STFU.

Kristy
11-13-2009, 12:14 AM
I'm not going to respond to him. There's no need to discover anything else about his fucked-up personality or disjointed and inconsistent views.

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 02:17 AM
The government is actually one of the biggest drug dealers on the planet. The CIA has been dealing in illegal drugs for decades. It started with daddy Bush using his offshore oil drilling platforms as drop off points and then flying the drugs in by helecopter. Then everyone knows about Air America in Vietnam. I'm sure that Afganistahn poppy is going to good use. Yes, they keep the borders wide open for a reason. It's called a $1.2 Trillion a year black budget where some of it comes from narcotic sales. One reason Kennedy wanted to break the CIA up into a million pieces and throw them to the wind. He knew about the drug dealing and was furious about it all.

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 02:18 AM
Drugs will never be legal. It would hurt the price on a key revenue item for the US intelligence agencies.

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 02:23 AM
Actually nothing wrong with Colorado broads. I had a fling with one from Littleton and another one from Arvada. They didn't have to do me but they did, but they did, but they did, and I thank them!

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 02:32 AM
Let's use the Bronx as an example. It used to be full of Irish thugs, then it was full of Italian thugs, and then it was full of black thugs, and now it's full of hispanic thugs. Basically whatever poor immigrant class is going to have that flavor of gang activity. Right now the hispanics are king because they are the biggest wave of immigrants right now. It used to be those paddy Irish fucks, and then those Italian wops, then those fucking n*ggers, and now it's those god dammed spics. I'm of Scandinavian decent and my ancestors came in the 1880's. I don't know what they were called. My great grand dad moved to Utah and ended up with four wives and went to prison for it. I guess we were the fucking Mormon assholes.

FORD
11-13-2009, 02:45 AM
I don't know what they were called. My great grand dad moved to Utah and ended up with four wives and went to prison for it. I guess we were the fucking Mormon assholes.

But the Mormon assholes are the majority in Utah. :biggrin:

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 04:33 AM
But the "filthy hippies" are in Government now and they seem to have forgotten where they came from...

And marijuana isn't life-threatening dangerous, but it is a drug...


:elvis:

Did someone say hippies?:biggrin:
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Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 04:34 AM
But the Mormon assholes are the majority in Utah. :biggrin:

Yup. About half the assholes in my family have left the church. So now they are apostate assholes.

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 06:26 AM
No need to reply Kristy.
This photo was taken outside of Dick Simon's race shop on the westside of Indianapolis.
http://race-cars.com/carsold/lola/1094404017/1094404017lc.jpg

And for the record:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/76/l_e265c622dc854a95bd3553225ce83eb5.jpg

I am the good looking one!!!!!:lmao:

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 06:32 AM
Dead on Nitro on the US Government.
Anybody remember this story?
CIA-Contra-Crack Cocaine Controversy (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/ch01p1.htm)

"The second installment of the Los Angeles Times series explored whether there was in fact a CIA-sanctioned operation that funneled millions of dollars into the Contras."

hideyoursheep
11-13-2009, 06:46 AM
THIS JUST IN!!

Alcohol is a drug. I don't use weed, but I don't see a problem with legalization and taxation any more than Marlboro or Captain Morgan.

Repealing prohibition got us out of the FIRST depression, didn't it?

Jerksmear, nothing good ever came out of Indiana. Ever. So stop plugging Billy Bob's garage. I know he lets that shitty Kiss tribute band practice there for free, but still..

WHO GIVES A FUCK!:fufu:

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 09:11 AM
Couldn't agree more sheep. That's why I left Indy with the exception for the month of May.

What do you mean for free?
We'll be at Greene Street Club Dec 5th in Greensboro NC and in Tampa Dec31. Pack your sheep for one of these shows and the Captain Morgan is on me.

Nickdfresh
11-13-2009, 10:20 AM
No need to reply Kristy.
This photo was taken outside of Dick Simon's race shop on the westside of Indianapolis.
http://race-cars.com/carsold/lola/1094404017/1094404017lc.jpg

And for the record:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/76/l_e265c622dc854a95bd3553225ce83eb5.jpg

I am the good looking one!!!!!:lmao:

Wow. What a pussy wagon. Nothing makes the girls cry like a douchebag in a sleek, riding mower.

(newsflash, bushleague racing is actually vag-repellent...)

ZahZoo
11-13-2009, 10:36 AM
I didn't imply whites don't commit crimes skank. Pointing out factual data regarding black or Hispanic crime isn’t racist. Better look at what you’re saying troll. You’ll quickly find out that by your skewed definition of the word racist, you are a fucking liberal twat racist.

Back on topic.
Enjoy your weed. You'll find support from Nick and others here for your bullshit line of thought. Not hurting anything? Would you recommend getting behind the controls of a crane on one of Makovsky's buildings? How about letting one of your stoner friends drive you through a police traffic check?
Then who gets to pay for your chank bullshit?

Get stoned and then give her a date rape drink. Fuck her tits and come in her fucking greasy hair. Thanks loads (literally) for the weed to get you too stupid to know what the fuck hit you. Here's your tampon back.
Fucking flange.

You're logic doesn't quite float there Jackass...

You imply use of illegal drugs drives crime rates... why don't we take a logical look at what's really driven the crime rates surrounding drug usage..?

Back in the 70's... when drug usage across all demographics was at an all time high per capita, especially among the 15-30 year old group. Drug related crime was a very small percentage in comparison today. Sure you had a few muggings and burglaries, but people weren't killing each other and gangs weren't running multi-million dollar operations...

Enter the war on drugs... Increased criminal laws and enforcement was enacted across the country with the Feds leading the charge. Almost immediate impact in the price of drugs across the board.

Since the subject of the thread is marijuana... let's stick to that as an example of where this went wrong.

In 1975 you could buy an ounce of decent weed for about $10. A pound for about $120-150. Got caught with a small amount... you'd most likely get a ticket and pay a fine in most places... worst case, with the exception of some hardnosed redneck regions, you might do a week or two in a minimum security county jail on a 30 day sentence.

Jump forward to 1985 with the tougher laws and prosecutions... an ounce of weed is now running $100-$300. Small amount lands you in jail for up to 6 months to 2 years which means moving to a medium security jail... meaning you are mixing your casual drug users with your rapists and murders with the jail system.

End result... stiffer laws and enforcement drove up the cost. There-by forcing users and dealers to resort to more significant crime associated with trade. Organized and gang related crime sky-rocketed to get a piece of the big money.

Plus add to that stuffing the jail system with casual drug users mixed with hard-core criminals... if you don't know this, let's not be naive... Jails are a complex educational system for producing worse criminals and psychopaths at better rates than our best school systems.

Now no one is advocating that crane operators, nor anyone one in a critical job requiring sharp mental skills be out there playing wake and bake in dangerous operations. Not the point...

The point is... take marijuana out of the Class A narcotics classifications. Even legalize it then you've taken it out of the mainstream illegal drug trade and culture. Then you've taken it out of the bullshit... dope smokers progress to more lethal drugs cycle as well. Think that's bullshit... well how many cigarette smokers eventually move on to crack or herion usage? How many alcoholics progress into cocaine addicts... Oh doesn't work that way eh?

Point is people are at no higher and in many cases much lower risk of injuring themselves or someone else from smoking a joint/bowl/whatever.

I have no dog in this hunt... last time I burned one was shortly after Diamond Dave left VH and mullets were cool... But I can see the logic and a billion dollar industry that could be significantly improved by shifting one variable.

standin
11-13-2009, 11:46 AM
Dead on Nitro on the US Government.
Anybody remember this story?
CIA-Contra-Crack Cocaine Controversy (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/ch01p1.htm)

"The second installment of the Los Angeles Times series explored whether there was in fact a CIA-sanctioned operation that funneled millions of dollars into the Contras."

Corruption is another subject.

FORD
11-13-2009, 11:56 AM
The BCE/CIA has been smuggling drugs for their entire existence. When Chimpy told us "drugs fund terraists", he was actually telling the truth, for once. He just left out the part that it's his own worthless criminal family that's behind those transactions.

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 12:37 PM
The BCE/CIA has been smuggling drugs for their entire existence. When Chimpy told us "drugs fund terraists", he was actually telling the truth, for once. He just left out the part that it's his own worthless criminal family that's behind those transactions.

When grandaddy Bush lost all his money in the crash of 1919, the Harriman family took him under their wing. Unlike Joseph Kennedy who was a smart investor and liquidated out before the crash, Bush got caught but was connected. The Harriman's bailed his ass out. It was also the Harriman's that backed Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. The Bush dynasty probably would have died off again but daddy Bush was a go getter, intelligent, and got attention in the right circles. I used to think the old money from the steel, oil, and railroad barons had dissapated over the years but the smart families got into investment banking, central banking, and politics. So basically in a way the trusts have come back to haunt us but now they have entrenched themselves in the government more than when they were broken up a century ago.

The Bush family have played their role but they are far from being the kingpin in what has happened to the country. George W. Bush was an idiot but he accomplished during his term what the elites wanted him to accomplish. The idiot sold the country The Patriot Act and passed it. He even sold the banker's bailout and Obama just continued selling it. Some of the biggest scams in world history were perpetrated by this idiot president giving his rich backers what they wanted. So an idiot in office can be real dangerous if idiots follow them. Ironically, the Republicans set the stage for the erosion of the rights they supposedly charish because once governments have a monopoly on power, gun ownership, freedom of speech, freedom of religion tend to dissapear. They set us on the road to fascism because the fascists wanted to bomb some ragheads.

Nitro Express
11-13-2009, 12:41 PM
Corruption is another subject.

Seems to be THE SUBJECT. Our current economic, foreign policy and political problems were caused by it.

standin
11-13-2009, 01:06 PM
Corruption among law enforcement is another subject. And technically the CIA is an international investigative branch of the American government.

This thread or the original article is about prohibition, it's effects and the ending of prohibition.

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 02:35 PM
Well one more casual use asshole finds their way into the thread. No dog in the hunt right? That’s why you misstated my screen name.
It never was a gateway argument. It’s always been a choice argument. Make enough bad choices and you’ll end up dead.

Two Killed In Massive Marijuana Garden Raid - Sacramento News Story - KCRA Sacramento (http://www.kcra.com/news/2489493/detail.html)

Antioch Man Shot, Killed By Police In Pot Raid - cbs5.com (http://cbs5.com/crime/antioch.narcotics.shooting.2.674889.html)

“forcing users and dealers to resort to more significant crime”
Thus making the point. Crime stats based on drug use are accurate with arrest records and prosecutions. The very reason jails are full is because of what? Bueller? Bueller? Littering? Parking violations?

The logic in breaking a billion dollar industry by shifting a variable is the same variable since the beginning. Cash. Remove the dealer and user from passing cash between each other. And again for the record, I’m not hearing too much about the drug trafficking and border deaths along the Montana border. Now California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico…………… guess it depends on which state you’re standin.

It’s not about prohibition; it’s about breaking the fucking law. Want the law changed? Call that Democrat commie lib from Tennessee.
Want to watch some casual use fuckers burn?
Index (http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/index.pgm)

Cubans dominate illegal pot growhouse trade in Florida, drug and law enforcement officials say

Local News: West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, Martin & St. Lucie Counties | The Palm Beach Post (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/state/epaper/2009/10/31/1031cubanpot.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=0)

FORD
11-13-2009, 02:44 PM
Well one more casual use asshole finds their way into the thread. No dog in the hunt right? That’s why you misstated my screen name.
It never was a gateway argument. It’s always been a choice argument. Make enough bad choices and you’ll end up dead.

Two Killed In Massive Marijuana Garden Raid - Sacramento News Story - KCRA Sacramento (http://www.kcra.com/news/2489493/detail.html)

Antioch Man Shot, Killed By Police In Pot Raid - cbs5.com (http://cbs5.com/crime/antioch.narcotics.shooting.2.674889.html)
And again for the record, I’m not hearing too much about the drug trafficking and border deaths along the Montana border. Now California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico…………… guess it depends on which state you’re standin.



Oh, so you link to some pot busts in California, and then drop a "not so subtle" hint that "them goddamn mexicans" are to blame for it?

Guess you don't know WHERE in California they grow dope, do you?

HINT: It ain't anywhere near Tijuana. :biggrin:

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 03:04 PM
FORD,
They grow most of it upstate as I recall and in the inland empire.

jacksmar
11-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Wow. What a pussy wagon. Nothing makes the girls cry like a douchebag in a sleek, riding mower.

(newsflash, bushleague racing is actually vag-repellent...)

You’re kidding right Nick?
Real race cars don’t have fenders, doors, windows, headlights, or gun racks.

This is a 1993 Lola T chassis. It used the Ford XB engine package and weighed about 1100lbs. It was a real piece of technology at the time in that it supported a different set of gear ratios based on torsion and by downforce.
Although this is an IndyCar from the CART series here is an interesting piece on Formula One downforce.
The Secret Life of Formula One - Downforce at DiscoveryChannel.co.uk (http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/video/the-secret-life-of-formula-one-downforce/)

Real race cars are mad eby Ferrari and Lotus and Penske. In a similar car, Gil Deferran did almost 242 at the California Motor Speedway.

Hardrock69
11-13-2009, 08:03 PM
So if everyone in the US was allowed to grow their own, there would be no need for people to pay for it, to traffic in it, or be worried about market-share, or massive amounts of profits gained BECAUSE OF US GOVERNMENT POLICY.

Legalize it, and allow people to grow it if they want.


Remove marijuana as a reason for drug cartels to fight with each other. They have enough problems trying to corner the market on Cocaine, Heroin, Crack and Meth.

Remove marijuana from the list of illegal drugs, it will give Law Enforcement ONE LESS THING TO DIVERT THEIR ATTENTION FROM COMBATTING HARD DRUGS.

Problem is the US Government makes to much money from marijuana, so why would they want to legalize it?

hideyoursheep
11-14-2009, 06:23 AM
Legalization would make traffickers, smugglers and dealers obsolete...OF COURSE law enforcement is against it, they need the work!

How many people in history ever got high on weed and robbed a bank? Raped someone? Killed a busload of church kids on the highway? More than likely someone who got baked just sat there, watched cartoons, and ate trail mix.

Please...stop trying to demonize ganja like it's 1899.

Have fun in Granny's Neck, NC. jagoffsmear. The Cpt. Morgan would most definitely be ON YOU. I guarantee it.

hideyoursheep
11-14-2009, 06:30 AM
And for the record:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/76/l_e265c622dc854a95bd3553225ce83eb5.jpg

I am the good looking one!!!!!:lmao:

:lmao:

I see 3 wanna-be's in clown outfits.

I doubt the free plugs bring you the attention you desire. Be careful.

ZahZoo
11-14-2009, 11:24 AM
Well one more casual use asshole finds their way into the thread. No dog in the hunt right? That’s why you misstated my screen name.

You missed the point... I haven't had an interest in casual use in over 25 years. That's 175 dog years... therefore no dog in the hunt.

I called you jackass based on the way you presented and framed your opinion, comprende?



It never was a gateway argument. It’s always been a choice argument. Make enough bad choices and you’ll end up dead.

Again missing the point I made... the gateway was/is criminalization.



“forcing users and dealers to resort to more significant crime”
Thus making the point. Crime stats based on drug use are accurate with arrest records and prosecutions. The very reason jails are full is because of what? Bueller? Bueller? Littering? Parking violations?

Yes simple economics... when the price was driven up from $10 an ounce to a range of $10-30 a gram... all of a sudden weed became a billion dollar enterprise ripe for the take-over of cartels, gangs and organized crime. It was small time stuff back 30 years ago. The cause and effect is right there in the history and facts



The logic in breaking a billion dollar industry by shifting a variable is the same variable since the beginning. Cash. Remove the dealer and user from passing cash between each other. And again for the record, I’m not hearing too much about the drug trafficking and border deaths along the Montana border. Now California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico…………… guess it depends on which state you’re standin.

Wrong again... it's taking it out of the illegal drug trade and culture. There's far more people smoking pot than than coke, meth, herion and prescription drug abusers combined.

You know why you're not seeing the issues along the Montana border is the marijuana trade between Canada and the US virtually mirrors what the pot trade was between Mexico & the US 30-40 years ago. The money isn't there and more importantly... Canada isn't the primary gateway for cocaine, meth and herion.

I've lived in both California and Texas. Had direct exposure to the Mexican and Central/South American mafia/cartels in California. They don't just run drugs... they were and are deeply involved in human trafficing as well. Especially in the predominate agricultural areas of the south western US where migrant farm workers are involved. They also used the shift turning central and south American areas into major agricultural producers and exporters... this has provided expanded shipping opportunities to be used for drug smuggling.



It’s not about prohibition; it’s about breaking the fucking law. Want the law changed? Call that Democrat commie lib from Tennessee.

Wrong again... It is about prohibition. Perfect example... when alcohol was illegal, it immediately shifted into a whole culture based on powerful criminal enterprises. The crime driven by making alcohol illegal was just as horrendous and terrible as the drug trade is today. It's very well documented and proven.

As soon as alcohol prohibition was repealed... the crime and killing associated with it died almost as quickly as it sprouted. Most of society's casual users were taken out of the crime culture. Life in the US became a heck of a lot better. It even produced stable economic improvements that lasted decades from the decriminalization and taxation on alcohol.

Think about that... given the times we live in...



Want to watch some casual use fuckers burn?


For christ's sake man use your brain... not some misplaced morality play. Or... did you fry it from your casual use and are just pissed about?

ZahZoo
11-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Dup... dang interweb...

GAR
11-14-2009, 11:43 PM
Pot should stay on the DEA classified schedule list, and thats all there is to it.

It is apolitical. Just because filthy burnout crystal hippies are of age and strength to vote it legal, doesn't overcome the medical opinions against taking it off the scheduled-class list.

jhale667
11-14-2009, 11:46 PM
The consensus medical opinion last I heard was that it should be removed from the list...

FORD
11-14-2009, 11:48 PM
Wrong as usual, GAyR.....

Why waste so much money and time battling something that, even recreationally is more or less harmless, and medicinally and industrially a huge moneymaker. Which of course includes tax revenue at a time when many states could really use some.

http://i35.tinypic.com/2w57j81.jpg


It just doesn't make any fucking sense to NOT legalize it.

jacksmar
11-15-2009, 10:05 AM
Quick question for all you casual use fucks.

Why don’t you take your stash to the County Sheriffs Department and dare them to arrest you?

Be sure to show them all your bullshit logic that you post here.

jhale667
11-15-2009, 10:16 AM
Quick question for all you casual use fucks.

Why don’t you take your stash to the County Sheriffs Department and dare them to arrest you?

Be sure to show them all your bullshit logic that you post here.

Quick question for the casual racist fuck: :rolleyes:
Who would do something that stupid, first off? They'd pretty much have to arrest you on principal in that scenario. Dumb premise there.
And unless you did, general consensus there is they don't care about casual use....nice try...

jacksmar
11-15-2009, 10:34 AM
Quick question for the casual racist fuck: :rolleyes:
Who would do something that stupid, first off? They'd pretty much have to arrest you on principal in that scenario. Dumb premise there.
And unless you did, general consensus there is they don't care about casual use....nice try...


Well, the obvious answer is you. So knock off your bullshit posing and get in the game.

Nickdfresh
11-15-2009, 11:07 AM
Pot should stay on the DEA classified schedule list, and thats all there is to it.

It is apolitical. Just because filthy burnout crystal hippies are of age and strength to vote it legal, doesn't overcome the medical opinions against taking it off the scheduled-class list.

Thanks Katydid! Any more mixed-messages of GAR morality?

Nickdfresh
11-15-2009, 11:09 AM
Quick question for all you casual use fucks.

Why don’t you take your stash to the County Sheriffs Department and dare them to arrest you?

Be sure to show them all your bullshit logic that you post here.

What fucking sense does the above make? I'm beginning to believe that you're either a troll, or just too dumb to post here...

I have a better idea, instead of jerking off on the interwebz, why don't you go lick a window and jerk off to the cops inside the precinct shower?

jhale667
11-15-2009, 11:41 AM
So knock off your bullshit posing

Posing/posting, it's all the same to you...


and get in the game.

How 'bout you get some game...:tongue0011:

jacksmar
11-15-2009, 03:32 PM
What fucking sense does the above make? I'm beginning to believe that you're either a troll, or just too dumb to post here...

I have a better idea, instead of jerking off on the interwebz, why don't you go lick a window and jerk off to the cops inside the precinct shower?

Nick,
It makes perfect sense. Try and stay with the line of thought. There's a bullshit commie lib from Tennessee telling the FBI director no has died from using weed. I don't buy it. Period.

Len Bias dies from using cocaine one time. People have shot up horse and died from one time use. Logic tells me the same has happened with weed. Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported. Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Caught up now?

FORD
11-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Nick,
It makes perfect sense. Try and stay with the line of thought. There's a bullshit commie lib from Tennessee telling the FBI director no has died from using weed. I don't buy it. Period.

Len Bias dies from using cocaine one time. People have shot up horse and died from one time use. Logic tells me the same has happened with weed. Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported. Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Caught up now?

Logic?

That post was so goddamn illogical, it would have made Spock's head do a complete 360.

People die from alcohol poisoning, but does that mean drinking a beer with your pizza is going to kill you?

A lot of people OD on pills - some intentionally and some not. Does that mean when you go to the dentist and get a tooth yanked, that you should refuse the painkiller prescription that he writes for you? For that matter, some people are allergic to penicillin and other antibiotics. Maybe you should refuse that prescription too, if the doc wrote you one?

Cocaine and heroin (and LSD for that matter) are often cut with substances which are far more dangerous than the drugs themselves. Not to mention the solvents used to extract the drug alkaloids from the plants themselves.

Why is this the case? Because the drugs are illegal and those involved in the black market want to maximize their profits. If you took the criminal element out of it, there would be no need to dilute the drugs with crap to raise the margins.

But back to the topic of marijuana, it simply doesn't fit the qualification of coke or smack any more than a bottle of Bud Light is the same as a shot of Everclear. True, you could get drunk from Bud Light if you really really tried hard, but all the time you spent in the bathroom taking a piss would kill the whole idea. The worst thing that could happen to you from smoking too much pot is you fall asleep, possibly after eating too many carbohydrates.

Nickdfresh
11-15-2009, 04:26 PM
Nick,
It makes perfect sense. Try and stay with the line of thought. There's a bullshit commie lib from Tennessee telling the FBI director no has died from using weed. I don't buy it. Period.

No one has died directly from getting high on weed (unless it was 'cut' with something like LSD, catnip, or coke), although I suspect some may have eventually caught lung cancer from it.

But then, why not outlaw cigarettes? How many people have died of alcohol poisoning?


Len Bias dies from using cocaine one time. People have shot up horse and died from one time use. Logic tells me the same has happened with weed. Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported. Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Caught up now?

Cocaine raises your heart-rate and blood pressure and is a stimulant. Again, what else should we outlaw? How many die from lung cancer and other smoking related illnesses every year, my little "Nanny-state" friend?

hideyoursheep
11-15-2009, 04:36 PM
Nick,
It makes perfect sense. Try and stay with the line of thought. There's a bullshit commie lib from Tennessee telling the FBI director no has died from using weed. I don't buy it. Period.

Len Bias dies from using cocaine one time. People have shot up horse and died from one time use. Logic tells me the same has happened with weed. Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported. Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Caught up now?


Uh, yeah.....You're an idiot. Have another drink.

jhale667
11-15-2009, 07:51 PM
Logic tells me the same has happened with weed.

Your logic is flawed...had it happened, it would have been reported. Len Bias supposedly tried to do an 8-ball by himself, btw...not a "casual" quantity by any means...so even that analogy is flawed...


Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported.

Because it doesn't happen. :rolleyes:


Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Much like the vast majority of the shit you post here...:dafinger:


Caught up now?

Yep, we know what's up with you...have a toke and a smile, and :sign0090:

GAR
11-16-2009, 01:30 AM
Cocaine and heroin (and LSD for that matter) are often cut with substances which are far more dangerous than the drugs themselves. Not to mention the solvents used to extract the drug alkaloids from the plants themselves.

People buy laced weed all the time and don't know it, so there's not even a visual purity test one can hold to call weed "weed."

Some time ago, friend of mine breaks out a small baggie and boasted "chocolate THAI, gar, lookie look at that - agggggg.." so I rub a little off on my fingers and look at it and go "looks like someone rolled the buds in margarine, stupid" wiped the smile really quick.

Strychnine is a stimulant. And the Beaners know it. Buy Mexican weed, suffer the consequences that's all I can say.

NO that's not all I can say: one more thing. People who smoke pot reinstill my belief in reverse Darwinism in modern man.

GAR
11-16-2009, 01:32 AM
Uh, yeah.....You're an idiot. Have another drink.

Oh look: a fresh reload of Groans for a fresh reload of idiocy from you.

You're welcome!

Hardrock69
11-16-2009, 10:47 AM
Nick,
It makes perfect sense. Try and stay with the line of thought. There's a bullshit commie lib from Tennessee telling the FBI director no has died from using weed. I don't buy it. Period.

Len Bias dies from using cocaine one time. People have shot up horse and died from one time use. Logic tells me the same has happened with weed. Don't have clue why it wouldn't get reported. Don't care. And I can't prove it.

Caught up now?

You have just demonstrated to us all that you are fucking retard. :biggrin:

Hardrock69
11-16-2009, 10:50 AM
People buy laced weed all the time and don't know it, so there's not even a visual purity test one can hold to call weed "weed."

Some time ago, friend of mine breaks out a small baggie and boasted "chocolate THAI, gar, lookie look at that - agggggg.." so I rub a little off on my fingers and look at it and go "looks like someone rolled the buds in margarine, stupid" wiped the smile really quick.

Strychnine is a stimulant. And the Beaners know it. Buy Mexican weed, suffer the consequences that's all I can say.


That is all the more reason for it to be legalized.

People who grow their own do not have to worry about Mexicans or the DEA spraying the weed with chemicals. They do not have to worry about their own stash being laced with anything.

AND, if it were legalized, then, as with alcohol and tobacco, there would be strict government controls on any reefer sold by (who else?) the tobacco companies, as consumer safety is the law when it comes to products produced for human consumption.

Once again, Garfuckle, you are owning yourself, by demonstrating to us all that you are a fucking moron.

Nickdfresh
11-16-2009, 12:11 PM
People buy laced weed all the time and don't know it...
...


Right! A (since a lot of the Canadian stuff is pretty potent I take it, it's an increasingly small) problem that would be alleviated by legalization and FDA monitoring of product...


When I smoked weed (on occasion), once in high school I either had some extremely potent THC or perhaps a hallucination such as either 'shrooms or LSD cut into it. It wasn't that big of a deal, and basically disposed of any interest I had with trying the latter two drugs...

jacksmar
11-16-2009, 12:23 PM
Drug-related deaths by drug category, 2006-2007 Drug category

https://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/files/me2007/state-metro/worcester.htm


https://dawninfo.samhsa.gov/files/me2007/state-metro/seattletacomabellevue.htm

Since this a Schedule I drug it looks like there have been some single use deaths according to the tables.

Can anyone assist with this data?

hideyoursheep
11-17-2009, 06:59 AM
I don't think that's the type of assistance you really need.:fufu:

Nickdfresh
11-17-2009, 10:20 AM
...

Can anyone assist with this data?

Try asking your special education teacher...

FORD
11-17-2009, 10:32 AM
Try asking your special education teacher...

I think GAyR might be his "special education teacher". Which actually explains a lot, unfortunately.

ZahZoo
11-17-2009, 02:57 PM
Here's some pretty straight forward data...

One study attributed Marijuana usage to 35 deaths from 1979 to 2003. Out of over 25 million people who claim to have smoked pot in the last year.

truth: the Anti-drugwar Overview of Marijuana Induced Deaths (1979 - 2003) (http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/cannabis.htm)

Here's another from the FDA. 0 deaths with Marijuana as a primary factor & 229 as a secondary suspect contributing to death. This is comparing usage of Medical Marijuana and comparing death to other drugs prescribed in place of weed.

Deaths from Marijuana v. 17 FDA-Approved Drugs - Medical Marijuana - ProCon.org (http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewresource.asp?resourceID=000145)

Clearly people aren't dying from smoking weed at any statistically measurable level in comparison to most legal or illegal drugs.

ELVIS
11-17-2009, 03:56 PM
Try asking your special education teacher...

Try learning the word Hallucinogen...

Hardrock69
11-17-2009, 08:34 PM
I see. Jacksmear has been tripping on acid this entire time, believing that he is a conservative asshole!

Gee, I never woulda thought!

Thanks, E, Jack is hallucinating! That is why he acts like such a dipshit! :biggrin:

jacksmar
11-18-2009, 08:57 AM
Once again the casual use fucks band together like the useless hippies from Woodstock. Must be a logical reason for this. Guess nobody was so staunch in their belief as to take their stash to the police. So they stay here and throw out a few names.

By the way, why do so many casual use fuck call their stash shit? Guess casual use fucks are Coprophiliacs as well. Use shit, be shit, live like shit.

Don't worry casual use fucks. You're in good company. A few famous casual use fucks:
Rush Bush Quayle Clinton Obama Kennedy Hoffman Garcia Elvis Carlin Fonda Lennon Morrison Hendrix Joplin Pryor

Most dead. Others are just useless casual use fucks. By the way boys, and I do mean boys, nice sandals. You got a Kotex to go with that ear ring, sandals and back side of a goat scrotum crotch face beard?
:finger33:

Nickdfresh
11-18-2009, 09:02 AM
Try learning the word Hallucinogen...

Try sucking my ballsack.

Nickdfresh
11-18-2009, 09:04 AM
Once again the casual use fucks band together like the useless hippies from Woodstock. Must be a logical reason for this. Guess nobody was so staunch in their belief as to take their stash to the police. So they stay here and throw out a few names.

By the way, why do so many casual use fuck call their stash shit? Guess casual use fucks are Coprophiliacs as well. Use shit, be shit, live like shit.

Don't worry casual use fucks. You're in good company. A few famous casual use fucks:
Rush Bush Quayle Clinton Obama Kennedy Hoffman Garcia Elvis Carlin Fonda Lennon Morrison Hendrix Joplin Pryor

Most dead. Others are just useless casual use fucks. By the way boys, and I do mean boys, nice sandals. You got a Kotex to go with that ear ring, sandals and back side of a goat scrotum crotch face beard?
:finger33:

Nice meltdown. B-/C+

FORD
11-18-2009, 11:01 AM
Don't worry casual use fucks. You're in good company. A few famous casual use fucks:
Rush Bush Quayle Clinton Obama Kennedy Hoffman Garcia Elvis Carlin Fonda Lennon Morrison Hendrix Joplin Pryor

Most dead. Others are just useless casual use fucks.

Hey, you forgot to mention David Lee Roth. Surely you have heard his story about "Someday, I'll smoke joints that big".

And if you think he's a "useless casual use fuck", then you don't have an excuse to spam this board with your delusional shit anymore. http://www.kawumm.de/images/cartman_with_bong.gif

Hardrock69
11-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Most dead. Others are just useless casual use fucks.


Speak for yourself, useless dead-head fool. :lol:

Your act is pretty cool. You should go on G. Gordon Liddy's radio show and blow him while Rush Limbaugh fucks you in your ass! :hee:

jacksmar
11-18-2009, 12:59 PM
Keep it up boys. You guys are the SHIT!

jacksmar
11-18-2009, 01:01 PM
Hey, you forgot to mention David Lee Roth. Surely you have heard his story about "Someday, I'll smoke joints that big".

And if you think he's a "useless casual use fuck", then you don't have an excuse to spam this board with your delusional shit anymore. http://www.kawumm.de/images/cartman_with_bong.gif

So was Rick James bitch.

FORD
11-18-2009, 01:14 PM
Nah, Rick was on the Peruvian marching powder. That was his downfall.:smiley-sniffer:

jacksmar
11-18-2009, 01:45 PM
True.
Rick was also the guy said, " I will smoke marijuana 'till I die."

Anyway, most people, including me, don't really care about this type of use anymore. The teenage kids waiting for the high school bus are firing up before they get indoctrinated. I don't have any use for drug use but I really don't care as long as they run the tweekers and meth heads off my local beaches. Bad for tourism. Heh

The police that have too much time on their hands need dig into some cold case files in Florida. Some people would like closure and justice. Just my two cents.

jhale667
11-18-2009, 02:53 PM
Anyway, most people, including me, don't really care about this type of use anymore.


Cool, then STFU already. And have a bong hit. You could use one.

Rick James' "Mary Jane" is a great song, btw. :lmao:

FORD
11-20-2009, 09:37 PM
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FORD
11-20-2009, 09:39 PM
BTW, the person who posted that on YouTube is a fucking idiot, because Weird Al had NOTHING to do with that song. It's another Bob Rivers "Twisted Tunes" parody, of course.