SS Guitars [Archive] - The Diamond David Lee Roth Army

VanHalenFan5150

11-18-2009, 08:42 PM

Alright, so, my friend Keith from school owns an original production run SS solidbody guitar from the late 80's or early 90's. He's going to trade it to me for my hardtail Washburn Idol and some cash, not much. The thing is a cross between an SG and a Strat, he says. It's red in color and has hot-rodded EMG humbuckers in it. It also features a double-locking Floyd Rose whammy bar... And a 22 fret rosewood neck. I don't currently have a picture of it, but the guitar seems sick. What I was wondering was, does anyone know ANYTHING about the guitar/s i'm talking about? If so, thanks, because i've looked around quite a bit for anything on them.

GAR

11-18-2009, 10:23 PM

VanHalenFan5150

11-19-2009, 07:31 AM

If you can get me a shot of the neck pocket and heel (if its a bolt-on) I may be able to identify the factory for you.

Never heard of SS though.

You know, Kramer was mostly an importer of Japan- and Korean-made guitar parts assembled in the US.. I know one or two guys actually had some skilz there, even if they weren't utilized to make an entire guitar.

I'm glad Kramer is out of business.

All I know is that it's a 22-fret rosewood neck with a Kramer-esque banana headstock that trims down to a point. Then, it's bolt-on with four screws into the body. He doesn't have a means of taking pictures with it, but it doesn't have any strings on it so he thought about bringing the neck into school. If so, i'll take pictures... But once I physically get the guitar, I will take more pictures.

Seshmeister

11-19-2009, 08:46 AM

Odd name for a company.

Why not Gestapo Guitars, it has more of a ring to it.

ELVIS

11-19-2009, 09:17 AM

VanHalenFan5150

11-19-2009, 06:33 PM

I've seen one or two. It's worth about $50 and I doubt a pawn shop would even give you that...

buy a good Korean guitar like an Agile or something. I wouldn't trade a Washburn for it. Especially not an older Washburn...

They're supposedly rare, i'll have to see tomorrow when Keith brings it in to school (neck and all, disassembled). But, the Washburn isn't anything special, just a hardtail Lyon Washburn Idol (Think of it like a Starcaster Strat). It's not very old, but hey, he wants to trade...

@Sesh
My mistake, it's S/S guitars, not SS. Sorry.

Nitro Express

11-19-2009, 06:43 PM

If you can get me a shot of the neck pocket and heel (if its a bolt-on) I may be able to identify the factory for you.

Never heard of SS though.

You know, Kramer was mostly an importer of Japan- and Korean-made guitar parts assembled in the US.. I know one or two guys actually had some skilz there, even if they weren't utilized to make an entire guitar.

I'm glad Kramer is out of business.

The shittiest guitar I ever owned was a Kramer. I also think the guy that ran it was an opportunistic asshole more into selling the hype than any kind of quality. I think he kissed Eddie's ass and took advantage of the relationship.

VanHalenFan5150

11-19-2009, 06:46 PM

Are you bashing American made Kramers, or the Asian made ones?

Better yet, why are you flaming in MY thread? Haha. I posted this thread to see if anyone knew anything about what I was discussing. :tongue0011:

Hardrock69

11-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Well, it is not exactly 'flaming' to talk smack about someone who is not even a member of this site.

I was never impressed by Kramers.

But to each his own.

jhale667

11-19-2009, 10:32 PM

The Kramer Voyager I had in high school was American-made, and had funky electronic issues from the factory, but except for having a neck like a baseball bat was otherwise OK...a couple of my friends had Barrettas, and while some played well, they always looked like melted wannabe Charvel/Jackson Strats to me...:hee:

Haven't been knocked out by the current Gibson/MusicYo/Whatever - Kramer offerings of late, either..

But I've never seen an SS.

GAR

11-20-2009, 12:26 AM

I wouldn't trade a Washburn for it. Especially not an older Washburn...

Depends on what Washburn, probably not I'd agree with Elvis on that.

twonabomber

11-20-2009, 07:14 AM

isn't Lyon Washburn's budget/import brand?

VanHalenFan5150

11-20-2009, 07:23 AM

isn't Lyon Washburn's budget/import brand?

Yes, I think I said that. It's a nice guitar for the price and brand name, two really good humbuckers, a heavy body, glossy black finish, and a nice rosewood neck. But i'm getting older and want better guitars...

twonabomber

11-20-2009, 07:26 AM

you may be making a lateral move.

VanHalenFan5150

11-20-2009, 07:30 AM

What do you mean by that? And now I think i'm getting the guitar for free, i'm not sure, haha.

twonabomber

11-20-2009, 07:34 AM

what i mean is, you may not be getting a better guitar than what you're already got.

VanHalenFan5150

11-20-2009, 08:07 AM

Well, I thought about it, and I seem to think that the S/S is better...

S/S Guitar
-22 Fret rosewood neck
-Hot-rodded high gain EMG pickups in neck and bridge pos.
-Double-locking Floyd Rose trem
-Glossy red finish
-Volume and tone control
-"Super-Strat" body design
-Banana headstock that crosses between a Kramer and a Jackson
-3 way pickup switch
-Low action

And, my Lyon Washburn Idol
-22 Fret rosewood neck
-2 no-name humbuckers
-Hardtail string-through design
-Glossy black finish
-VCC Tone control (Blends humbucker sounds into single coils)
-Weird body design (Looks like an SG, a Tele, and Les Paul had babies)
-Arch-top headstock
-3 way selector switch
-Unfixable high action :/

In my opinion, the S/S sounds better... Keith says it plays and sounds like a beast.

ELVIS

11-20-2009, 07:04 PM

S/S Guitar

-22 Fret rosewood neck - big deal

-Hot-rodded high gain EMG pickups in neck and bridge pos. - No such thing

-Double-locking Floyd Rose trem - made of cheap cast metal that will break and sounds like crap

-Glossy red finish - Wow! Buy it before someone else snaps it up...LMAO!

-Volume and tone control - made in china and will break

-"Super-Strat" body design - whatever that means

-Banana headstock that crosses between a Kramer and a Jackson - woo hoo, you'll be the talk of the town

-3 way pickup switch - wow!

-Low action - Is that what the guy told you ??

Keith says it plays and sounds like a beast. - is that good or bad ??

:elvis:

jhale667

11-20-2009, 08:36 PM

Uhmm :umm:

:thread_needs_pics:

VanHalenFan5150

11-20-2009, 10:03 PM

LMAO

I'll post up pics very soon, i'm not going to pull a Gar... If you guys want to see my Frankenstrat, here it is:

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=FS1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/FS1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=FS2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/FS2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=FS3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/FS3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 12:56 AM

That's a what strat ??

GAR

11-21-2009, 02:54 AM

I'd cut it loose.

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 07:46 AM

That's a what strat ??

That's my attempt at a Frankenstrat given the limited resources I had at the time. :tongue0011:

I took a knock-off Stratocaster with a rosewood neck and Kramer-style "beak" headstock and striped it up with electrical tape. It's pretty lame how the transformation was made but it turns some heads when I bring it into school.:biggrin:

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 08:35 AM

You're really only 14 ??

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 08:50 AM

You're really only 14 ??

Yes, really... Is there anything wrong with that? If so, I apologize...

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 09:02 AM

No dude, I just don't want to sound like an a**hole!

I respect anyone who picks up an instrument and I really do like to be helpful...

:elvis:

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 09:07 AM

No dude, I just don't want to sound like an a**hole!

I respect anyone who picks up an instrument and I really do like to be helpful...

:elvis:

That is always good, I respect that. Some people are really just douchebags about it. If you're better than them or worse then them, they insult you either way, it's like Catch-22. I'm certainly not the best but I have some really good guitar gear, better than most people. If you wanted, I could list my gear in another thread. But this one's for my Showster S/S guitar.

I found out that my guitar was made in the late 80's or early 90's, is American made, and i've noticed it has a serial number on the backplate. Next to the traditional pickup switch, it has a much smaller two-way switch, which I am not sure what it does.

I will post pictures very soon. And I need a high E string, haha.

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 09:30 AM

if it's American made, i'd keep it...

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 10:26 AM

if it's American made, i'd keep it...

Well, i'm certainly going to keep it, at this point. I spent far too long restringing it anyway. :tongue0011:

But yeah, it's a kickass guitar, here's some pictures. If you wanted any more, let me know.

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=DSCN0214.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/DSCN0214.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=DSCN0217.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/DSCN0217.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=DSCN0218.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/DSCN0218.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

And here's one of me jamming out:

<a href="http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/?action=view&current=DSCN0221.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af287/VanHalenFan95/DSCN0221.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

jackassrock

11-21-2009, 01:15 PM

Not too shabby, looks like an Ibanez S series.

How does it play/sound ?

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 01:43 PM

Not too shabby, looks like an Ibanez S series.

How does it play/sound ?

You kidding? The thing is a fucking beast. It's got great resonance and sustain, it holds notes out really good. I really like the harmonic response on it as well. I was surprised at how easily and loudly I could do squealies on it. :tongue0011:

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 02:29 PM

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 02:32 PM

I like it. Nicer than I imagined...and if it's really made in USA...

Does it say where it's made ??

Looks like Japan, but either way, and you like it...

I like red, but clean up those rusty screws...:biggrin:

I'm going to replace the screws eventually. And i'm certain it's made in America, i've scoured around the guitar.

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 02:34 PM

And get some old english lemon oil from Walmart and rub the crap out of that fretboard. it will feel like a totally different guitar once you do that...

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 02:36 PM

hey, Japanese guitars are great, and those silverish dots on the fretboard are indicative of a MIJ guitar...even Japanese Strats usually have those unless it's a Craft Shop model...

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 02:39 PM

And get some old english lemon oil from Walmart and rub the crap out of that fretboard. it will feel like a totally different guitar once you do that...

I already have. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 02:49 PM

Good!

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 02:51 PM

Good!

I'm not that silly, i've known about lemon oil on guitars since I started...

Hardrock69

11-21-2009, 02:55 PM

I'd cut it loose.

SHUT UP GAR! Nobody asked you for your opinion on what YOU would do with HIS GEAR! :fufu:

Hardrock69

11-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Wow. Even Gar could not get up the balls to post pics of his cardboard Charvel and his imaginary amps.

Kudos to you dude. I did not start playing electric until I was 16.

Hardrock69

11-21-2009, 02:56 PM

Wow. Even Gar could not get up the balls to post pics of his cardboard Charvel and his imaginary amps.

Kudos to you dude. I did not start playing electric until I was 16.

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 02:57 PM

I'm not that silly, i've known about lemon oil on guitars since I started...

Kool!

Many people are not that smart...remember that...;)

Like I said, I like to help anyone who is serious about music...

:elvis:

Hardrock69

11-21-2009, 03:05 PM

OK so tell us...what was the defining moment where you suddenly realized playing guitar was something you must do? Just curious.

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 03:08 PM

Why put him on the spot ??

There is nothing you must do, unless you get drafted...

Hardrock69

11-21-2009, 03:20 PM

Not putting him on the spot E.

Many musicians, myself included, can point to one point in their life where they decided playing guitar (or music) is what they truly wanted to do.

In my case, it was seeing ZZ Top in 1976. When I walked out of the venue, I knew I MUST play guitar.

I was not meaning "must" as in "SOMEONE ELSE telling you that you MUST do something".

It was meant more as when YOU tell YOURSELF you must do something.

Understand? :)

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 03:31 PM

Yeah, I saw Vandenberg open up for Ozzy in 1982 when I was a kid, and that truly got the ball rolling for me...I hadn't seen Van Halen live yet...

Adrian was amazing at the time...

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:elvis:

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 03:31 PM

I know, the singer sucked...:biggrin:

ELVIS

11-21-2009, 03:35 PM

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 05:26 PM

OK so tell us...what was the defining moment where you suddenly realized playing guitar was something you must do? Just curious.

My sister got an acoustic for christmas a few years back... So I picked it up when she wasn't being an idiot on it and taught myself. I got my first electric last year.

jhale667

11-21-2009, 05:26 PM

Wow. Even Gar could not get up the balls to post pics of his cardboard Charvel and his imaginary amps.

Kudos to you dude. I did not start playing electric until I was 16.

I started two weeks before my 15th...:) My sister brought home the first 3 VH albums, I was hooked.

Yes, kudos to the kid. :baaa: He sounds serious about guitar, and is already actively researching what he needs to know to progress....pretty cool. :cool:

And he already knows not to act like GARfail. He'll go far. :biggrin:

:guitar:

VanHalenFan5150

11-21-2009, 05:42 PM

I started two weeks before my 15th...:) My sister brought home the first 3 VH albums, I was hooked.

Yes, kudos to the kid. :baaa: He sounds serious about guitar, and is already actively researching what he needs to know to progress....pretty cool. :cool:

And he already knows not to act like GARfail. He'll go far. :biggrin:

:guitar:

The man who really got me into guitar was Dick Dale... But my idol perspective soon shifted over to Eddie Van Halen. ;)

I am very serious about the guitar, i've been playing for over 2 years self-taught, and i'm a hell of a lot better than most of the people I know (except my teacher). I made sure to take and post pictures of my gear when asked as well. I know what i'm talking about when it comes to guitars, whether it seems like it or not, and if I don't know something I will look it up. I'm constantly improving and I have a live webshow on Stickam sometimes, I play guitar for people who care to watch. If anyone wants to hear me jam sometime, give me a buzz.

GAR

11-22-2009, 01:01 AM

Oh! That's not an "SS" guitar. There was a Kramer sidebranded-company called American Showster.

http://www.vintagekramer.com/Ads/showster.jpg

They came to prominence by making guitars with bodies that resembled fins off a 57 Chevy.

VanHalenFan5150

11-22-2009, 08:45 AM

Yes, I forgot to say that it's A Showster S/S... Sorry. And it's missing the counterweight/Chevy Fender thing.

GAR

11-22-2009, 01:33 PM

And he already knows not to act like GARfail. He'll go far.

Soon enough we shall convert him to become Dumpmeister Emeritus, and edumacate him in the Ways of the Black Sausage and owning you.

Then he will be unstoppable.

VanHalenFan5150

11-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Soon enough we shall convert him to become Dumpmeister Emeritus, and edumacate him in the Ways of the Black Sausage and owning you.

Then he will be unstoppable.

English please? :tongue0011:

Nitro Express

11-22-2009, 06:33 PM

It was the spaceman Ace Frehley that made me want to pick up the electric dick stick.

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VanHalenFan5150

11-22-2009, 06:35 PM

Nitro Express

11-22-2009, 06:40 PM

The man who really got me into guitar was Dick Dale... But my idol perspective soon shifted over to Eddie Van Halen. ;)

I am very serious about the guitar, i've been playing for over 2 years self-taught, and i'm a hell of a lot better than most of the people I know (except my teacher). I made sure to take and post pictures of my gear when asked as well. I know what i'm talking about when it comes to guitars, whether it seems like it or not, and if I don't know something I will look it up. I'm constantly improving and I have a live webshow on Stickam sometimes, I play guitar for people who care to watch. If anyone wants to hear me jam sometime, give me a buzz.

I'm a Dickhead as well.

VanHalenFan5150

11-22-2009, 06:43 PM

I'm a Dickhead as well.

:)

Wuuuut?

Hardrock69

11-22-2009, 11:27 PM

Uhh...he means he is a Dick Dale fan as well. ;)

And you do not have to apologize to Gar for anything. He will attempt to tell you what you should do with your stuff (hell, he already did, lol), so feel free to tell him to shut up.

Hardrock69

11-22-2009, 11:50 PM

Ace was not the guy who kicked me in the ass suddenly and made me want to play guitar, but the Christmas of 1976 I found a Kiss Easy Guitar book, and was able to learn the entire Kiss Alive album within a year or so. His solos were easy enough for a beginner to learn, but, as a beginner, I still found them challenging. I always could pick up solos easier...it took me awhile to get a lot of chordal things down.

Only time I ever saw Adrian Vandenburg was when he was playing in Whitesnake in the mid-80s.

VanHalenFan5150

11-23-2009, 07:58 AM

Kiss inspired an entire generation of guitar players...

With that said, I still am not big about rowdy old men wearing makeup and playing on big guitars. :hee:

ELVIS

11-23-2009, 08:13 AM

Oh man...

They were ebmarrassing on Letterman last month...

Hardrock69

11-23-2009, 08:46 AM

Yeah they were here in Gnashville about 3 weeks ago.

I had a LOT of fun!

Sitting at home watching TV.
:D

VanHalenFan5150

11-23-2009, 06:39 PM

Yeah they were here in Gnashville about 3 weeks ago.

I had a LOT of fun!

Sitting at home watching TV.
:D

I'm not going to sit around when Van Halen comes to town!

jhale667

11-23-2009, 08:21 PM

I'm not going to sit around when Van Halen comes to town!

For your sake, hope they tour again.

Anyone else remember being a 14-yr old VH freak? :D Ah, memories.

When most of us were your age, VH rolling into town was like the circus showed up...only with more dancing girls, and less animal poop. :hee:

:jumping0041::band::jumping0041:

Seshmeister

11-23-2009, 08:24 PM

At the current prices I wouldn't have been able to go at that age.

jhale667

11-23-2009, 08:29 PM

At the current prices I wouldn't have been able to go at that age.

True. When I went back to see the fam over the summer I was looking at some of my old ticket stubs and laughing at some of the prices (that to be fair we complained about then) compared to today. Think I saw Randy Rhoads when I was around VH5150's age for something like $15!! :lmao: :(

kwame k

11-23-2009, 08:39 PM

For your sake, hope they tour again.

Anyone else remember being a 14-yr old VH freak? :D Ah, memories.

When most of us were your age, VH rolling into town was like the circus showed up...only with more dancing girls, and less animal poop. :hee:

:jumping0041::band::jumping0041:

Remember it well! Learning Al's drum licks and trying to find anything that was shown live on TV!

The thing that really made me want to play guitar was Kiss and Ace. He looked so cool with smoke coming out of his guitar and how low he wore it. What really made me decide to go over to drums was Wipe Out......I was 10 when I tried playing guitar and 11 when I switched to drums....

VanHalenFan5150

11-24-2009, 07:44 AM

Van Halen's going on tour again, 2010 World Tour... Where have you guys been? But anyway, I live near a very major city in Florida; Tampa/St. Petersburg. If they were to come down here, that's likely where they would play. And it's only a 45 minute drive. The tickets wouldn't be too bad, but I still would like acceptable seats. :tongue0011:

I'd be willing to spend upwards of $50+ to see them. I've been saving my money lately, and hey, there's not much good shit to spend it on.

twonabomber

11-24-2009, 09:14 AM

on the last tour, $50 got nosebleed seats...

Hardrock69

11-24-2009, 01:07 PM

When I saw them in 1978, it was $8.50 and that was for General Admission, so I got right in front, holding onto the rail. :D

VanHalenFan5150

11-24-2009, 06:11 PM

Haha, wow man... (Tempted to not say "That suit is you!")

Diamondjimi

11-24-2009, 11:44 PM

Wow. Even Gar could not get up the balls to post pics of his cardboard Charvel and his imaginary amps.

GARfail is a Unich, therefore he has no balls... :biggrin:

Hardrock69

11-25-2009, 01:23 AM

Good call!

All smooth down there like a Ken doll, eh? Figures. :D

GAR

11-25-2009, 01:31 AM

I recall two experiences sometimes out of order, and because I'm tired tonite I don't exactly care:

I saw Van Halen when I was 10 one summer, at a backyard party I wasn't invited to, just a neighbor kid riding up a driveway on a bike with dozens of older people standing around cheering with plastic beer cups in their hands. Typical SoCal kegger party.

That was free, and during a break the guitar player strapped an explorer-shaped guitar on me and showed me A and E chords for a few minutes.

Then the following year's fall I saw the end of a set over a fence by standing on my bike seat and handlebars looking over.

Didn't pay for that one either.

They got famous later on so I can't say I saw "Van Halen" live yet. I missed out on the US Festival which was my only chance but being about the 30th in line at Music Plus, tickets sold out in ten minutes.

Diamondjimi

11-25-2009, 02:03 AM

I recall two experiences sometimes out of order, and because I'm tired tonite I don't exactly care:

I saw Van Halen when I was 10 one summer, at a backyard party I wasn't invited to, just a neighbor kid riding up a driveway on a bike with dozens of older people standing around cheering with plastic beer cups in their hands. Typical SoCal kegger party.

That was free, and during a break the guitar player strapped an explorer-shaped guitar on me and showed me A and E chords for a few minutes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Federaljim/BuseyFAIL.jpg

OMG!!!

This is perhaps your nuclear FAIL. Ahahahahhahah...
Now you claim to have had an impromtu guitar lesson from Edward Van Halen!

Ahahahahahhahaaaaa ...... ONLY GARfail could pile the bullshit this tall!

:lmao:

GAR

11-25-2009, 02:31 AM

I've been reiterating that story for 10 years or more now, you're pretty green regarding the stuff I've done and who I've known huh?

I mean you come in here about the time in 2003 when Hagar goes on tour with VH or whenever that was to have a shitfit, and you seem to be stuck shitting yourself ever since.

It may help to actually read what some people here have said over the years instead of just attacking any opportunity you see fit.

Hardrock69

11-25-2009, 10:30 AM

Are you kidding, dumbass? Who would it help to "actually read" what YOU post on the interweb?

Next thing you will be trying to tell us you gave Boy George a blowjob in the bushes at Griffith Park!

Hardrock69

11-25-2009, 10:32 AM

Are you kidding, dumbass? Who would it help to "actually read" what YOU post on the interweb?

Next thing you will be trying to tell us you gave Boy George a blowjob in the bushes at Griffith Park!

VanHalenFan5150

11-25-2009, 10:45 AM

I know the story is at least partially false, because at that time, Ed was playing on a Stratocaster. It was white with a white pickguard and two single coils and a humbucker, though some pictures show three single coils...

Classic Van Halen Gallery and Multimedia - Ed & His "original" baby - Powered by PhotoPost (http://classicvanhalen.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=7036&cat=539)

Ed didn't acquire an Explorer-shaped guitar until 1977, and it was an Ibanez Destroyer-lawsuit guitar. On the tracks for the first and third albums, any song that did not include a whammy bar dive was done on the Destroyer, which he cutely called "the Shark." In Running With The Devil, the opening guitar gliss was done behind the Tune-O-Matic bridge at the stopbar. To this day, I cannot recreate this sound whatsoever with my guitars behind the nut.

Do I really need to continue this for the sake of proving Gar wrong?

jhale667

11-25-2009, 12:03 PM

Don't worry about it, VHF5150...he'll be back to own himself later...;)
But it conceivably could've been his then-neighbor Chris Holmes' Ibenhad Destroyer he used to borrow regularly...unlikely, though.

Are you kidding, dumbass? Who would it help to "actually read" what YOU post on the interweb?

Next thing you will be trying to tell us you gave Boy George a blowjob in the bushes at Griffith Park!

Actually, if you think about it, that scenario is FAR more believable...:biggrin:

Diamondjimi

11-27-2009, 08:59 PM

kwame k

11-27-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by GARfail
I've been reiterating that story for 10 years or more now, you're pretty green regarding the stuff I've done and who I've known huh?

So when you had Eddie's guitar on your "workbench" did you remind him that he taught you those cords.....now how long after that did he sell that guitar to Mick Mars?

GAR

11-28-2009, 01:54 AM

I know the story is at least partially false, because

.. you were there.

Hardrock69

11-30-2009, 02:11 AM

More likely he was there than you, Garfuckle.:biggrin:

GAR

11-30-2009, 02:59 AM

I can't reply to this, the library closes in 2 minutes..

jhale667

11-30-2009, 03:02 AM

I can't reply to this, the library closes in 2 minutes..

No one wants to hear it anyway.

VanHalenFan5150

12-01-2009, 08:40 AM

.. you were there.

Because in your lack of intellect and the power of Wikipedia, o grateful one, I know for a fact that Ed didn't play on an Ibanez Destroyer in the club and backyard days. He played on a Les Paul Custom with sunburst finish, and more often than not he played on an old Strat. This was before he purchased his Frankenstrat from Boogie Bodies, however.

He didn't get the Destroyer until before the first album, and, like i've already said, he played on it for anything that didn't include a whammy bar dive.

"I've reiterated this story for (insert number here) years"