Why not take Hati?

[standin]

With Haiti's position on the map, it seems a logical acquisition.
Haiti is in the position to give up all for any sort of stability.
Haiti could provide a labor source would be close and inexpensive.
It would start to close up the Gulf of Mexico to USA controlled traffic only.
And it would lead to a natural expansion of the US of America to eventually become the US of the Americas.

There are so many advantages to the unification of the Americas.

Haiti can only serve to further the unification.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

senor huge chavez is already throwin' a shit fit about that.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Brown and Joseph Guyler Delva Tom Brown And Joseph Guyler Delva – 29 mins ago
PORT-AU-PRINCE (Reuters) – U.S. Black Hawk helicopters swooped down on Haiti's wrecked presidential palace to deploy troops and supplies on Tuesday as a huge international relief operation to help earthquake survivors gained momentum.

The airborne troops in combat gear moved to secure Port-au-Prince's nearby General Hospital, where staff have been overwhelmed by patients seriously injured in the 7.0 magnitude that destroyed much of Haiti's capital one week ago.

Their arrival brought crowds of quake survivors camped out in the park opposite the palace rushing to its iron railings to gawk and beg for handouts of food.

It was one of the most visible and potentially sensitive deployments so far by the U.S. military, which is spearheading international efforts to assist millions of injured and homeless Haitians.

At least one Latin American leader, Venezuela's socialist President Hugo Chavez, a fiery critic of what he calls U.S. "imperialism," has already accused Washington of "occupying" Haiti under the pretext of an aid operation.

[standin]

Hugo naturally would be concerned. However, the communistic agilities of his nation would be enhanced by an alliance with the development of the Americas.

I, myself, though I love, USA would relish in living in Columbia with all her natural luxuries.

[kwame k]

We can't even run our own country right.....why in the fuck would we want to take on another country?
We've proven we can't occupy a country correctly either, Iraq and Afghanistan.

When we finally do something right, like giving aid and resources to a country in need, the fucking idiots on the right say it was nothing more than political grandstanding.....and they have the fucking nerve to say stupid shit like we acted too early.

I've always said....you can't bitch about your neighbor's lawn when your own backyard is a mess....

Our Imperialistic designs have proven to be nothing but an epic failure.

[standin]

And I can list at least 150 other citizens of the USA that would enjoy Columbia's natural luxuries.
If America (north) does not suit familial needs go forth, and if America (southern) does not suit your desires, go forth.

[standin]

We can't even run our own country right.....why in the fuck would we want to take on another country?
We've proven we can't occupy a country correctly either, Iraq and Afghanistan.

When we finally do something right, like giving aid and resources to a country in need, the fucking idiots on the right say it was nothing more than political grandstanding.....and they have the fucking nerve to say stupid shit like we acted too early.

I've always said....you can't bitch about your neighbor's lawn when your own backyard is a mess....

Our Imperialistic designs have proven to be nothing but an epic failure.

Iraq and Afghanistan.
Are not island nations in need of reasonable trade and development.
Nor are those countries physically connected to the Americas.

[kwame k]

And I can list at least 150 other citizens of the USA that would enjoy Columbia's natural luxuries.

What you guys can't coke in your neck of the woods?

[kwame k]

Iraq and Afghanistan.
Are not island nations in need of reasonable trade and development.
Nor are those countries physically connected to the Americas.

You have entirely missed the point...we can't occupy/rebuild those countries at all. How in the fuck could we fix the island nations?

[Seshmeister]

Is New Orleans even fixed yet?

[standin]

What you guys can't coke in your neck of the woods?

:biggrin:
Of course not!
Coca (tea) has only been legalized in Columbia.
A great opportunity for casino development!

But a complete deflection~
With the structural power that is established and customary within the Colombia society, which has been developed by the structural power of the drug cartels. The custom is a communistic mentality. The drug cartel "take care of their own". Though the cartels "take care of their own" poorly and and no regulation with the exception of a few sophisticated organizations.
Columbia is close to Venezuela in social structure.

[standin]

You have entirely missed the point...we can't occupy/rebuild those countries at all. How in the fuck could we fix the island nations?

Allowing for a hybrid. A hybred of Americas. A caplitilistic/ comunisic conjunction of the Americas.

[standin]

Is New Orleans even fixed yet?

Let the sink hole go. Some parts are salvageable, most are not.
Let nature have what is hers and relish her beauty.

[kwame k]

Allowing for a hybrid. A hybred of Americas. A caplitilistic/ comunisic conjunction of the Americas.

Ah, OK:umm:

[standin]

The closest spelling I could find~
communistic

[FORD]

I'd rather merge with Canada. Better healthcare and sugar in Coke without paying three times the normal cost for it, like the Mexican stuff.

I'd even learn to live with the Metric system if we had that.

[kwame k]

I'd rather merge with Canada. Better healthcare and sugar in Coke without paying three times the normal cost for it, like the Mexican stuff.

I'd even learn to live with the Metric system if we had that.

Problem is, Canada wouldn't touch us with a 10' poll.......we're the big red headed stepchild no one wants;)

[sadaist]

Haiti could provide a labor source would be close and inexpensive.



Inexpensive? You are assuming that no minimum wage would be applied. Much like what happened in American Samoa, resulting in driving tuna canneries out of business.




Haiti is in the position to give up all for any sort of stability.


Exactly. And why is that? We have enough of our own problems to deal with. The last thing we would need is to accept full responsibility for that shit hole. They have zero infrastructure, we would be starting everything from scratch. We can't even keep our own infrastructure in good order, and to even think we would (or could) basically build a county from scratch is insane.

New Orleans isn't even being close to 100% and that IS a part of the United States. You honestly would even entertain the thought of basically taking an entire country that is basically New Orleans post-Katrina?

Even if the labor was "inexpensive" as you say, the trillions we would spend building that country would far exceed any benefit of a slightly lower wage.

[Unchainme]

I'd rather merge with Canada. Better healthcare and sugar in Coke without paying three times the normal cost for it, like the Mexican stuff.

I'd even learn to live with the Metric system if we had that.

I don't know Man, the CNFL would be sort of weird, yet cool at the same time.

Seahawks Vs. BC Lions would be interesting rivalry. As would Argonauts V. Buffalo. We could merge the two rule sets.

We should make some deals, they get to make the countries beers, hockey gets more air time, their weed laws are now ours, we still sing seperate anthems (Oh Canada is probably tied with us for best National Anthem IMO). We keep the flag though, though adding some Maple Leafs to represent their states errr..provinces.

[Baby's On Fire]

With Haiti's position on the map, it seems a logical acquisition.
Haiti is in the position to give up all for any sort of stability.
Haiti could provide a labor source would be close and inexpensive.
It would start to close up the Gulf of Mexico to USA controlled traffic only.
And it would lead to a natural expansion of the US of America to eventually become the US of the Americas.

There are so many advantages to the unification of the Americas.

Haiti can only serve to further the unification.


I used to only suspect you were utterly stupid.......Silly me.

[Baby's On Fire]

I'd rather merge with Canada. Better healthcare and sugar in Coke without paying three times the normal cost for it, like the Mexican stuff.

I'd even learn to live with the Metric system if we had that.


Not a chance. You guys fucked up your own country....we can do just fine fucking up our own country.

Last thing we need are dumb-ass fucking hillbillies coming here....Looking for an all you can eat buffet for 2 dollars......

I don't need to worry though...the average American college student can't even find the USA on a map...no chance you'll be able to find Canada to invade.

[Unchainme]

Not a chance. You guys fucked up your own country....we can do just fine fucking up our own country.

Last thing we need are dumb-ass fucking hillbillies coming here....Looking for an all you can eat buffet for 2 dollars......

I don't need to worry though...the average American college student can't even find the USA on a map...no chance you'll be able to find Canada to invade.

Go fuck yourself tool bag.

I happen to have an A in everyone of my classes in college right now, and was in the geography bee every year in Jr. High.

Every kid in my graduating class could probably tell you where the USA is and even where our little brother up north is.

Go back to fucking your logger boyfriend and spelling Favorite with a "U" as we all know what kind of a queerbait you are.

Fuck bag.

[Unchainme]

...And I'm not overly patriotic son of a bitch, but my god, when some fucktard with the arrogance level of this jackass posts such idiotic drivel. I will be on you like white and rice. I will make it my sole goal as to make you never feel welcome on this board again, you uneducated mouthbreathing racist asshole.

This country is far from perfect and has HUGE ass flaws in it, but to have some jackass automatically assume that everyone here is based on some goddamn fucked up Red State sterotype is not only insulting, but moronic as well.

And I'm not slamming anyone on this board from Canada, great place, and some of the forums best posters hail from the Great White North. But this guy doesn't represent you at all, and you guys should condemn him for these statements.

[Unchainme]

Oh and before you go on this whole rant about how I "voted for bush" and am part of the problem, and generalize me into one of your lameass red-state stereotypes, who's fat, owns a trailer, wears a wife beater and shit like that.

I am a registered Democrat in the state of Ohio, and currently despise both parties, and voted libetarian in the last election.

[sadaist]

lameass red-state stereotypes, who's fat....


Means you can afford more than enough food. That's a good thing.



owns a trailer...


Roof over your head not funded by the government. Also a good thing.



wears a wife beater...


Likes 100% cotton undershirts that are thrift worthy, comfortable & come 3 to a pack. Another good thing.


I don't get why these things all get a bad rap. :)

[Nitro Express]

There's no oil in Haiti. It's half an island full of ten million poor people. If it was valuable we would have invaded it a long time ago.

[Nitro Express]

We haven't made Puerto Rico a state because it would suck tax dollars. They would love to be a state but it serves it's purpose as a common wealth. That way you can use it but it's cheaper.

[Nitro Express]

What you guys can't coke in your neck of the woods?

LOL! I've been around Columbia. I went there when the state department said if I got kidnapped I was on my own. It is a beautiful country and has the most beautiful emeralds I have ever seen.

[Nitro Express]

Is New Orleans even fixed yet?

I think we are letting it go back to swamp to keep Al Gore happy.

[Nitro Express]

You can buy coca leaves on the street in Peru. I never saw them for sale in Columbia. The local natives chew them. I tried it and drank the tea. You pull a buzz but it's not even in the same ball park as refined cocaine. Not even close. It's more like an energy drink.

[standin]

Inexpensive? You are assuming that no minimum wage would be applied. Much like what happened in American Samoa, resulting in driving tuna canneries out of business.




Exactly. And why is that? We have enough of our own problems to deal with. The last thing we would need is to accept full responsibility for that shit hole. They have zero infrastructure, we would be starting everything from scratch. We can't even keep our own infrastructure in good order, and to even think we would (or could) basically build a county from scratch is insane.

New Orleans isn't even being close to 100% and that IS a part of the United States. You honestly would even entertain the thought of basically taking an entire country that is basically New Orleans post-Katrina?

Even if the labor was "inexpensive" as you say, the trillions we would spend building that country would far exceed any benefit of a slightly lower wage.

Sometimes late at night Alice becomes restless
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She takes the charm given to her by The Raven
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Artist note (http://suafabula.blogspot.com/2009/09/writers-relic-necklace-with-labradorite.html)
Rubs it thrice and jingles once.

Old man Thunder and Ice arrive bringing with him the captured sun
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As the sun rises, Alice unbinds the four horses from the chariot

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Hitches the wagon to the G2V star star and proceeds to take a nap during the journey.

She arrives at Narnia 12 hours later
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From there she meets up with Mr Anderson.

Mr. Anderson and Alice take dinner from the Octopus's Garden.

Over coffee they envision the state of the world~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I wrote yesterday's thoughts half joking and half realistic.

Instead of concentrating on parts of the world that are not our neighbors, maybe we could get our own neighborhoods functional. Haiti is going to need a government, if we don't want it, let Chavez build it as a gesture of good will. An economy ran by a government, is about the only thing that will make Haiti functional. I have been looking, it is bad down there in Haiti.

Haiti is not New Orleans ( a city in a bowl) With education and time, something a government like Venezuela is willing to put in elbow grease to make happen, Haiti could find its niche.
Of course, with UN oversight or international oversight.

[WACF]

Simply put....Haiti is not yours to take...

[LoungeMachine]

Simply put, Haiti has no oil.....

[Igosplut]

Is New Orleans even fixed yet?

Christ, Homestead FLA isn't even fixed yet......

[chefcraig]

Simply put, Haiti has no oil.....

That is the entire reasoning behind our government's policy of turning these people away from this country, in a nutshell. Haiti simply doesn't hold any strategic importance to the United States, whereas any scumbag criminal that manages to float the 90 miles from Cuba to the Florida Keys can claim he feels oppressed by the Castro government (such as it is), and is welcomed with open arms.

[VAiN]

I think you've missed the overall issue here - Haiti is full of Haitians... We don't want them, trust me.

[chefcraig]

I think you've missed the overall issue here - Haiti is full of Haitians... We don't want them, trust me.

That is an appalling thing to say. I've spent decades working with Haitian folks in kitchens and job sites all over this area. They are among the warmest, most compassionate and hard working people I've ever known. I have been welcomed into their families and have witnessed a generosity of spirit that is nothing short of remarkable to embrace. To dismiss a race because of an unwarranted social bias perpetrated by the AIDs debacle of the eighties or the actions and fear mongering of our local (racially motivated) politicians is not only ghastly, it is the sort of thinking that perpetuated genocide in the years leading up to and during WWII.

[FORD]

Simply put, Haiti has no oil.....

They used to be major sugar exporters though. Of course the MonSatan corn lobby took that out of the equation. :(

[Blackflag]

Who's the asshole that said we should take over "Hati?"

[letsrock]

We already have taken Haiti, we call it Cleveland.

[Dr. Love]

I'd rather merge with Canada. Better healthcare and sugar in Coke without paying three times the normal cost for it, like the Mexican stuff.

I'd even learn to live with the Metric system if we had that.

You know what they say about Canadians and the Metric System.

Give them 2.54 centimeters, and they'll take 1,609.344 meters.

You can probably guess why this saying isn't as popular as it's Imperial System counterpart.

[Nitro Express]

We already have taken Haiti, we call it Cleveland.

More like Detroit.

[Nitro Express]

That is an appalling thing to say. I've spent decades working with Haitian folks in kitchens and job sites all over this area. They are among the warmest, most compassionate and hard working people I've ever known. I have been welcomed into their families and have witnessed a generosity of spirit that is nothing short of remarkable to embrace. To dismiss a race because of an unwarranted social bias perpetrated by the AIDs debacle of the eighties or the actions and fear mongering of our local (racially motivated) politicians is not only ghastly, it is the sort of thinking that perpetuated genocide in the years leading up to and during WWII.

Haitians are like Samoans or Tongans. The good ones are great and the bad ones are the worst.

[hideyoursheep]

Means you can afford more than enough food.

Means STFU.

:fufu:

[hideyoursheep]

Not a chance. You guys fucked up your own country....we can do just fine fucking up our own country.

Last thing we need are dumb-ass fucking hillbillies coming here....Looking for an all you can eat buffet for 2 dollars......

I don't need to worry though...the average American college student can't even find the USA on a map...no chance you'll be able to find Canada to invade.


Next time I see some jagoff driving south on I-71 with Ontario plates on his sled, I'm throwing shit at it....I hope it's you.:fufu:

[hideyoursheep]

We need to get out of the "nation building" business, standin. Giving aid to Haiti during a time of crisis is one thing, but to suggest the US run it's nation for them is as ignorant as invading Iraq.

Besides, we were there before...

[standin]

I think that if food budgets and time budgets weren't so small, more people would be healthy.
A proper diet cost in either, time or money, and sometimes both.

The $1 menu (which now is $7 menu if you want semi healthy food) and the grocery prefab dinners dinner point blank make you fat. High calories and low nutrients. If you do not get nutrients your body will still hunger. Even when stress eating which is normal for certain stresses, the type of stress foods available are piss poor. in nutrient/ calorie mix for the purpose of being a stressor (or teeth grinder.)

[standin]

We need to get out of the "nation building" business, standin. Giving aid to Haiti during a time of crisis is one thing, but to suggest the US run it's nation for them is as ignorant as invading Iraq.

Besides, we were there before...

I agree, places like Cuba and Venezuela should . After seeing what gone, it is going to take a government run economy to be able to do any kind of significant development. Capitalist countries simply are not able to have the long range plans/maneuverability that "nation building" requires.