U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

[kwame k]

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the U.S. military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

Link (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794&page=1)

[kwame k]

An abridged version of General Order No 1


Since the 2003 liberation of Iraq, the term also refers to a multi-page United States Central Command order that prohibits consumption of alcohol, sexual activities with local and third country nationals, offering food considered forbidden (haraam) under Islam to local nationals, and proselytizing by United States Department of Defense personnel while in a combat zone and certain pre-deployment training activities.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_No._1)

[kwame k]

I will say this is a defense contractor that did it and not military personnel but come the fuck on, people.

[sadaist]

Well, the good news is that the enemy isn't seeing our sights up closely enough to read a small inscription on them.

[kwame k]

Well, the good news is that the enemy isn't seeing our sights up closely enough to read a small inscription on them.

True but if the from Jesus with love ever got leaked out there....it'd be hard for the missionaries to convert the heathens.....strike that, missionaries have always used the old, convert or die tactic.

[VanHalener]

If I'm going to be out there shooting bad guys in sheets I want a scope with the proper inscription...

Mark 14:51-52
And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.


I'd also shoot the heathens in the crotch, but with another scope...

Deuteronomy 23:1
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

[chefcraig]

...strike that, missionaries have always used the old, convert or die tactic.

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9203/aspani.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/aspani.jpg/)

[kwame k]

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[chefcraig]

Yep, with that skit, along with "The Bishop" (below) and a few films, Monty Python pretty much warped my view of Christianity forever when I was a teenager.

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[kwame k]

You know now that I think about it, Craig. They warped my views, too.

Wonder if we'd get any monetary damages....if we sued them;)

Nah, we'd just blow it on strippers and beer:beers8:

[GAR]

Proselytizing, and company-engraved inscriptions or other such approved decorations or stylings, are two very fucking different things.

What a dick you are! These guys are out there in the 'zone, sending these fuckers back to Him Who Sent Them (all praise and glory be 6 ft under to them..) and you don't wish these triggermen the blessing of a free nation that allows its contractors to do shit like bible inscriptions - you're priorities are fucked up.

Get a life. They're doing the Lord's work, they should at least see his word every now and then even they don't believe their enemy is gaining Paradise with each payload sent if they wish.. or if they do not wish they could always polish it off..

[VanHalener]

A scope with an etching of Exodus 2:12 would be :cool:

And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand.

[kwame k]

Proselytizing, and company-engraved inscriptions or other such approved decorations or stylings, are two very fucking different things.

What a dick you are! These guys are out there in the 'zone, sending these fuckers back to Him Who Sent Them (all praise and glory be 6 ft under to them..) and you don't wish these triggermen the blessing of a free nation that allows its contractors to do shit like bible inscriptions - you're priorities are fucked up.

Get a life. They're doing the Lord's work, they should at least see his word every now and then even they don't believe their enemy is gaining Paradise with each payload sent if they wish.. or if they do not wish they could always polish it off..

STFU Clay....no one even cares what you have to say.

Run along little fella, the grown-ups are talking.....there must be some little boys around to piss on or some toy cars to shove up your ass.


I could say to you..........look at post number 3 where I state clearly that this was a defense contractor and not Military personnel but then again reading comprehension was never your strong suit.

Come to think of it you don't have any strong suits do you?
Fail=as a poster on a VH fan site.....check.
Fail=as a Google know it all guitar builder....check.
Fail=to even have a relationship with a man or woman....check, likes little boys.
Fail=to have a job that a Mexican can't steal...check.
Fail=at even being a good racist troll....check.

I could go on but God.....I'm even starting to feel sorry for you.

[VanHalener]

Inspirational scope for the sand dweller about to divorce his wife...

Proverbs 21:19
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

[kwame k]

Inspirational scope for the sand dweller about to divorce his wife...

Proverbs 21:19
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

Dude, I bet you could sell these to the religious right nut jobs out there.

[BITEYOASS]

Well since the owner was probably one of those West Michigan Amway-fundies, and whichever General in charge of contracting was of Armageddon-happy mofos, then I wouldn't be suprised if they were all hallelulah about it.

[kwame k]

Well since the owner was probably one of those West Michigan Amway-fundies, and whichever General in charge of contracting was of Armageddon-happy mofos, then I wouldn't be suprised if they were all hallelulah about it.

Sadly, he's from Wixiom.

[GAR]

Inspirational scope for the sand dweller about to divorce his wife...

Proverbs 21:19
It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

The literal translation is "desert" not "wilderness" as I recall..

[Jesus Christ]

I don't suppose they included My words from the Sermon on the Mount in any of these abomination weapons.

Do the words "Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS" ringeth a bell??? :mad:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Dude, I bet you could sell these to the religious right nut jobs out there.

fuck that, sell 'em to the contractor.:biggrin:

[Blackflag]

In N' Out does it, too...and they're hamburgers are fantastic.

[VanHalener]

I don't suppose they included My words from the Sermon on the Mount in any of these abomination weapons.

Do the words "Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS" ringeth a bell??? :mad:

Sure it rings a bell, but Peacemakers don't need scopes. Geesh!:hitch:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/phylo_roadking/peacemaker.jpg

[jhale667]

What's really sad is the zealot fucks either don't realize, or don't care - that they're playing right into the hands of the zealots on the other side, who already claim we're in a "Holy War"....

FFS how can anyone be that fucking dumb? More like they're not, they probably believe they ARE making guns for Jesus and getting their Holy War on...

Perhaps he can answer ;) but why would Jesus need a gun, when he's already able to throw the divine version of the Repulsor Ray from his fingertips? :confused:

[kwame k]

By RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press Writer – 8 mins ago
WASHINGTON – A Michigan defense contractor will voluntarily stop stamping references to Bible verses on combat rifle sights made for the U.S. military, a major buyer of the company's gear.

In a statement released Thursday, Trijicon of Wixom, Mich., says it is also providing to the armed forces free of charge modification kits to remove the Scripture citations from the telescoping sights already in use. Through multimillion dollar contracts, the Marine Corps and Army have bought more than 300,000 Trijicon sights.

The references to Bible passages raised concerns that the citations break a government rule that bars proselytizing by American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are predominantly Muslim countries.

A spokesman for U.S. Central Command initially said the Trijicon sights didn't violate the ban and compared the citations on the sights to the "In God We Trust" inscription printed on U.S. currency.

On Thursday, however, Army Gen. David Petraeus, Central Command's top officer, called the practice "disturbing."

"This is a serious concern to me and the other commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan," Petraeus told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

In a statement issued later by the command, Petraeus said that "cultural and religious sensitivities are important considerations in the conduct of military operations."

New Zealand announced Thursday that they would remove the citations from the sights they have, and Australia, which also uses the sights, is assessing what to do.

New Zealand defense force spokesman Maj. Kristian Dunne said Trijicon would be instructed to remove the inscriptions from further orders of the gun sights for New Zealand and the letters would be removed from gun sights already in use by troops.

The rest here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_military_weapons_bible_references)

[kwame k]

Boy, that didn't take long!

[hideyoursheep]

...."This is a serious concern to me and the other commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan," Petraeus told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

In a statement issued later by the command, Petraeus said that "cultural and religious sensitivities are important considerations in the conduct of military operations."
Fuck Patraeus. It's war.




A scope with an etching of Exodus 2:12 would be :cool:

Stenciling names or slogans onto the gun tubes of MBT's, Howitzers and turrets of smaller combat vehicles are nothing new, in fact I'll bet there's an "EXODUS" on someone's gun tube for the entire world to see as we speak.....probably on something that belongs to an E co. or E troop.:biggrin:

[thome]

This is just another blatant case of liberal crybaby pussy bitch .


WHO GIVES A FUKK!!.

The only person who should have anything to bitch about is the company who ordered the produst and if this in anyway voids a contract or deviates from the original specs signed off on.

It's NOT NEWS!!!!

And to tie it to The Mid-East Conflict is SoFuukingGhey to anti muslim in anyway is silly.

[chefcraig]

Well, the good news is that the enemy isn't seeing our sights up closely enough to read a small inscription on them.

The issue isn't with the enemy, it's one of causing offense to the Iraqi and Afghan soldiers training with the rifles. It usually isn't a particularly bright idea to insult your allies.

[kwame k]

The issue isn't with the enemy, it's one of causing offense to the Iraqi and Afghan soldiers training with the rifles. It usually isn't a particularly bright idea to insult your allies.


Now Craig, don't go using logic on these guys;)

[thome]

The issue isn't with the enemy, it's one of causing offense to the Iraqi and Afghan soldiers training with the rifles. It usually isn't a particularly bright idea to insult your allies.


Well then ask them if they care to shove the rifles up thier ass and fight with the fukking nothing they have invented or designed for the protection of thier way of life since the goddamn, rock throwing stick.

Or it is two yahoos at the sight company with a engraving pen and a doobie at lunch hour.

Anything to try and make America look bad for you guys, you just jump on it and make all kinds of bullsh!t up.

No harsh on you craig but this mind set has got to stop it is rediculous.

These Mf'ers would fight with red white and blue bullets if someone was shooting at them.

It's not news, it is a HR issue within a company that could cost that company a contract, just due to employee control isues.

And someone thier jobs.

[hideyoursheep]

Sorry...I don't see the big "controversy", as it would make more sense to be offended by being shot by a Christian rather than being offended by the subliminal serial code engraved on one of the tools used by your opposition that both sides were totally oblivious to...until now. :rolleyes:

Would we give a shit if all of the Taliban fighters and AQ used Osama Bin Laden signature AK 47's? I don't think it would matter.


THOME!!!


STFU!!! You NEVER make sense.:mad:

[kwame k]

The owner of the company used to have them engraved on the sights and then stopped. When he died the company brought back the tradition.....moron. Talk about making shit up Gnome.

They did it in such a sneaky way....why not be out front about it. Is that company's religious convictions more important than the money the make? Oh wait! They are taking it off of all the new sights and giving kits out to take it off of existing ones.

So much for moral/religious convictions......

[kwame k]

Sorry...I don't see the big "controversy", as it would make more sense to be offended by being shot by a Christian rather than being offended by the subliminal serial code engraved on one of the tools used by your opposition that both sides were totally oblivious to...until now. :rolleyes:

Would we give a shit if all of the Taliban fighters and AQ used Osama Bin Laden signature AK 47's? I don't think it would matter.


THOME!!!


STFU!!! You NEVER make sense.:mad:


It's not really a controversy.....they caved in as soon as the story broke.

[hideyoursheep]

It's not really a controversy.....they caved in as soon as the story broke. And who broke the story? The insurgents, or our troops who use them?

[thome]

The owner of the company used to have them engraves on the sights and then stopped. When he died the company brought back the tradition.....moron. Talk about making shit up Gnome.

They did it in such a sneaky way....why not be out front about it. Is that company's religious convictions more important than the money the make? Oh wait! They are taking it off of all the new sights and giving kits out to take it off of existing ones.

So much for moral/religious convictions......


YOU DON'T CARE!!!

It is just your simplistically derranged anti-american bullsh!t that you twist and spin to fit your posting style around this site.

OH MY GOD THEY WERE SO SNEAKY!!!! LO FUKK'N L


The only news here that has any validity is what you wierdo's do.

How you minds twist it every way towards your anti-american podium all the while clearly unable to see how silly it really is.

Question: How many hours an day do you poke around the net looking for this dumbsh!t so you can get a thread title in your name that promotes your assinine agenda...?

[kwame k]

And who broke the story? The insurgents, or our troops who use them?

an ABC News investigation has found.

[kwame k]

YOU DON'T CARE!!!

It is just your simplistically derranged anti-american bullsh!t that you twist and spin to fit your posting style around this site.

OH MY GOD THEY WERE SO SNEAKY!!!! LO FUKK'N L


The only news here that has any validity is what you wierdo's do.

How you minds twist it every way towards your anti-american podium all the while clearly unable to see how silly it really is.

Question: How many hours an day do you poke around the net looking for this dumbsh!t so you can get a thread title in your name that promotes your assinine agenda...?


Phew, hitting the glue early tonight, Gnome?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/realtodd/glue.jpg

[hideyoursheep]

an ABC News investigation has found.

Right.

Way to go, ABC. THAT was important.



Not.


I'm more concerned with how combat effective they are...and since The USMC started buying them, they must work pretty damned well, as they are notoriously cheap.




FFS, forget about how this might offened the Muslims, I guarantee you there is some shit is stenciled on a combat vehicle that is far more offensive than this, that Gen. Petraeus is well aware of it, since it has been a long tradition, and that ABC would never fuck with the troops' decision to modify their vehicles in the manner they see fit....as long as it gets approval from the CO.


...and before we go down that road, no, "Muslim Killer" or "Suck My Dick" would not be allowed.

[thome]

GLUE ...? WTF!!!

Ok/?? ahhhhhhhhhhhhh..... yeah sure, why not I paid for it and it is within the rights of a free person .

Just like as you posted, the company chooses to put this on thier product and it is thier rite to stop putting it on thier product.

To cave into the squeeky wheel.

Just like most of america is doing to avoid your goddamn lawsuit AC(KKK)LU cock sukking money whores that say they are doing it to better the world..

OH FUKK LOL

You and some of these -The Front- cats are just pure..."D" Communists with your selfish want to control the freedoms of individuals that you will never see or know.

Whatta JOKE!

[LoungeMachine]

YOU DON'T CARE!!!

It is just your simplistically derranged anti-american bullsh!t that you twist and spin to fit your posting style around this site.

OH MY GOD THEY WERE SO SNEAKY!!!! LO FUKK'N L


The only news here that has any validity is what you wierdo's do.

How you minds twist it every way towards your anti-american podium all the while clearly unable to see how silly it really is.

Question: How many hours an day do you poke around the net looking for this dumbsh!t so you can get a thread title in your name that promotes your assinine agenda...?



If we're all such stoopid, anti-american "wierdo's" [sic] then why the FUCK can't you bring yourself to quit us, clem?

Go be with your own kind. The bright, the patriotic, the sober.

:gulp:

We're all infidels here

[kwame k]

Right.

Way to go, ABC. THAT was important.



Not.


I'm more concerned with how combat effective they are...and since The USMC started buying them, they must work pretty damned well, as they are notoriously cheap.

To my knowledge this story isn't even a blimp on the radar......

Why go through the trouble of putting something on your product that could piss off your consumers?

Look at what New Zealand is doing to their sights......there's very few factories in Detroit that are even open. These guys have multi million dollar contracts with not only the USA but with other countries. Why risk all that?

[LoungeMachine]

Why go through the trouble of putting something on your product that could piss off your consumers?

?


I said the same thing when spED announced Wolfie as the new BP

:gulp:

[MAX]

I said the same thing when spED announced Wolfie as the new BP

:gulp:

Lounge,

NO FIGHTS..... MmmmmmmmmmmmmK?

I can't remember though? Did you go to any of the shows?

[kwame k]

GLUE ...? WTF!!!

Ok/?? ahhhhhhhhhhhhh..... yeah sure, why not I paid for it and it is within the rights of a free person .

Just like as you posted, the company chooses to put this on thier product and it is thier rite to stop putting it on thier product.

To cave into the squeeky wheel.

Just like most of america is doing to avoid your goddamn lawsuit AC(KKK)LU cock sukking money whores that say they are doing it to better the world..

OH FUKK LOL

You and some of these -The Front- cats are just pure..."D" Communists with your selfish want to control the freedoms of individuals that you will never see or know.

Whatta JOKE!

So you are the voice of America? No wonder this country is so fucked up.....

None of you guys can understand what the other patriot is saying:lmao:

Seriously Gnome, you can't even understand what you post.

[LoungeMachine]

Lounge,

NO FIGHTS..... MmmmmmmmmmmmmK?

I can't remember though? Did you go to any of the shows?

Sure.

1979
1981
1984

:D

[hideyoursheep]

To my knowledge this story isn't even a blimp on the radar......

Why go through the trouble of putting something on your product that could piss off your consumers?

Look at what New Zealand is doing to their sights......there's very few factories in Detroit that are even open. These guys have multi million dollar contracts with not only the USA but with other countries. Why risk all that?


I guess they aren't going to continue the subliminal "Jesus Code" SN any longer now that ABC, the worldwide leader in Jesus Code decoding pointed it out, so...no harm no foul. I would have never noticed, would you?


I mean, I doubt the Islamic world would have figured it out either, unless Tom Hanks came to town..

[LoungeMachine]

As for the cash grap tour last year?

Fuck NO.

But I saw enough youtubes to know I didnt miss shit.

:gulp:

[thome]

So you are the voice of America? No wonder this country is so fucked up.....

None of you guys can understand what the other patriot is saying:lmao:

Seriously Gnome, you can't even understand what you post.


There.....You immediatley switched your train of thought to that of Lougies..... and that, and my posts help you get this nothing that has anything to do with anything other than a personel issue is some privatley owned company.

To a second page ...wich I am quite sure is your true agenda, we know it couldn't be a actual concern for a weapon site that is engraved with a blessing.

Or the mother fukkers it is designed to blow the asses off.

[hideyoursheep]

Somewhere near KC, there's an abandoned FEMA trailer occupied by one man, a stolen laptop, a bread bag, and a can of PAM.:hee:

[kwame k]

I mean, I doubt the Islamic world would have figured it out either, unless Tom Hanks came to town..

Slow the fuck down Sheep! Dan Brown hasn't even written the book yet:beers8:

[thome]

As for the cash grap tour last year?

Fuck NO.

But I saw enough youtubes to know I didnt miss shit.

:gulp:


No, you missed everything.

[LoungeMachine]

Or the mother fukkers it is designed to blow the asses off.

Here's the real reason Thermos is foaming at the mouth.

Anytime anyone doesn't agree with his Kill all the muslims, let God sort 'em out stance, we're anti-American traitors.

:gulp:

Here ya go, Thermos.

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[LoungeMachine]

No, you missed everything.

A drunken spED?

A kid on bass lip synching backups?

:gulp:

I've seen CVH in their prime 3 times. have you?

[hideyoursheep]

No, you missed everything.

I'll tell you what I missed.....the Cincinnati show. Fucking Ed wigged out and cancelled-er, postponed....:fufu:


20 fucking years...I'll wait my ASS!

[thome]

Somewhere near KC, there's an abandoned FEMA trailer occupied by one man, a stolen laptop, a bread bag, and a can of PAM.:hee:

Look you sumbit, I am soo going to be out of here with my new internet business> I have almost patented a foil hat that fits inside a baseball cap.

It has taken me almost 11 years and 4000 rolls of foil but I almost have it figured out.

Then you won't laugh any more.

[LoungeMachine]

I'll tell you what I missed.....the Cincinnati show. Fucking Ed wigged out and cancelled-er, postponed....:fufu:


20 fucking years...I'll wait my ASS!

And with that we're BACK ON TOPIC AND OFF THE FUCKING TOUR.

:gulp:

[hideyoursheep]

Look you sumbit, I am soo going to be out of here with my new internet business> I have almost patented a foil hat that fits inside a baseball cap.

It has taken me almost 11 years and 4000 rolls of foil but I almost have it figured out.

Then you won't laugh any more.

We can't help but laugh...we can smell the amyl nitrate from here..

[kwame k]

There.....You immediatley switched your train of thought to that of Lougies.....
I do? Funny, I've only been on this board for a couple of years.....wonder how I ever got through life without Lounge to copy :handjob:


and that, and my posts help you get this nothing that has anything to do with anything other than a personel issue is some privatley owned company.

What the fuck does that even mean.....huff head.


To a second page ...wich I am quite sure is your true agenda, we know it couldn't be a actual concern for a weapon site that is engraved with a blessing.

It isn't? My only concern is a business that deals with our government shouldn't be pushing a religious agenda, pro or con......


Or the mother fukkers it is designed to blow the asses off.

Go outside your trailer and get some air huff head.

[thome]

Here's the real reason Thermos is foaming at the mouth.

Anytime anyone doesn't agree with his Kill all the muslims, let God sort 'em out stance, we're anti-American traitors.

:gulp:

Here ya go, Thermos.

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It sure beats your America should bend over and take it in the ass retoric.

P.S. I never click what is free republic..?

[kwame k]

P.S. I never click what is free republic..?

So you're a communist?

[LoungeMachine]

:lmao:

[thome]

It isn't? My only concern is a business that deals with our government shouldn't be pushing a religious agenda, pro or con......

.

A blessing engraved into a piece of metal or plastic is pushing a agenda... a religious agenda...... really....?

You perhaps could see the national anthem as -Bigotry- too couldn't you..?

Perhaps, -In God We Trust- as a excuse to never touch money..?

Call Alek Baldwin he swore on national -TV- that he would move to France if Bush was elected .. cussed us all and called us fools said he would never live here.. last I saw he was still a hack actor in sh!t movies.

You guys are both the same, blaming others for your own personal shortcomings.

Berating America but still cashing those Fukikin BIG CHECKS!

Just like the Muslims, no ability to accept others as your equal, dwelling on the superiority of the wasted existence of selfishness.

are we to page 3 yet..?

[thome]

So you're a communist?


Dear Lougie and Koowammie so cute together..yes you are...!!! coochie coochie you little devils....

The news and people bleating about yesterdays news is like the soap operas. I tune in once every three years and just notice the faces have changed.

Call me what you will.

Now explain to me why not clicking makes me a communist..?

Perhaps I could learn something and I still won't click, but perhaps I will hear what -YOU- have to say not who -YOU- refer to for your thought construction.

[kwame k]

A blessing engraved into a piece of metal or plastic is pushing a agenda... a religious agenda...... really....?

You perhaps could see the national anthem as -Bigotry- too couldn't you..?

Perhaps, -In God We Trust- as a excuse to never touch money..?

Call Alek Baldwin he swore on national -TV- that he would move to France if Bush was elected .. cussed us all and called us fools said he would never live here.. last I saw he was still a hack actor in sh!t movies.

You guys are both the same, blaming others for your own personal shortcomings.

Berating America but still cashing those Fukikin BIG CHECKS!

Just like the Muslims, no ability to accept others as your equal, dwelling on the superiority of the wasted existence of selfishness.

are we to page 3 yet..?


What does all this have to do with the fact you admitted to be a fucking pinko commie?

America, love it or leave it, you communist bastard.

[hideyoursheep]

Are we back on topic yet?

[kwame k]

Are we back on topic yet?

I think so? If not here we go........

Do you really think Tom Hanks is right for the third movie based on Dan Brown's new book, "The Secret Jesus Bible Code gun", I feel the franchise should go with a younger actor.....discuss.

[thome]

Are we back on topic yet?

I believe the thread was about the last CVH tour without the influence of MA and not "Cool" because of the influence of WVH and something about Ed not playing up to snuff... not sure...


I do know, it almost deteriorated into a weird company policy issue thing that should be handled by a HR department..... it was weird man!!!!

[kwame k]

Dear Lougie and Koowammie so cute together..yes you are...!!! coochie coochie you little devils....

The news and people bleating about yesterdays news is like the soap operas. I tune in once every three years and just notice the faces have changed.

Call me what you will.

Now explain to me why not clicking makes me a communist..?

Perhaps I could learn something and I still won't click, but perhaps I will hear what -YOU- have to say not who -YOU- refer to for your thought construction.


Phew, that joke went right over your huff head......communist bastard, Go back to Stalingrad comrade.

[hideyoursheep]

As long as it isn't Shia LeBeouf, I'm good...:019:

[hideyoursheep]

I believe the thread was about the last CVH tour without the influence of MA and not "Cool" because of the influence of WVH and something about Ed not playing up to snuff... not sure...


I do know, it almost deteriorated into a weird company policy issue thing that should be handled by a HR department..... it was weird man!!!!

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[thome]

Phew, that joke went right over your huff head......communist bastard, Go back to Stalingrad comrade.

You need to take that act on the road......you could run over real quick to the stage rite..... excuse me stage -LEFT- and hit your snare and crash thus indicating the punchline, and when your audience is supposed to laugh.

[kwame k]

As long as it isn't Shia LeBeouf, I'm good...:019:

I've never seen him act.....

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[kwame k]

You need to take that act on the road......you could run over real quick to the stage rite..... excuse me stage -LEFT- and hit your snare and crash thus indicating the punchline, and when your audience is supposed to laugh.

Poor Gnome.....everyone else is in on the joke but you, story of your life eh?

[BITEYOASS]

Back on subject, the us military is rife with Armaggedon-happy militant jesus-freaks! Moreso in the upper ranks.

[kwame k]

Back on subject, the us military is rife with Armaggedon-happy militant jesus-freaks! Moreso in the upper ranks.

Jesus, that's a comforting thought.......

[hideyoursheep]

Back on subject, the us military is rife with Armaggedon-happy militant jesus-freaks! Moreso in the upper ranks.

Not sure about the Jesus freak part, but yeah, I can second that emotion.

[thome]

The last three posts are made up bullsh!t and more militant and jesus frrek than any military person I have ever spoken with.

What other words can you use to prove a point that is made up by you and a lie..?

[Seshmeister]

Back on subject, the us military is rife with Armaggedon-happy militant jesus-freaks! Moreso in the upper ranks.

I've read that too, it's quite scary.

The extreme mental superstitionists have made a real determined attempt to take over the chaplaincy of many units of the US military pushing the fundie Christian soldier lies.

If this keeps happening it's not impossible that there could be a religious military coup at some point in the US.

[thome]

I've read that too, it's quite scary.

The extreme mental superstitionists have made a real determined attempt to take over the chaplaincy of many units of the US military pushing the fundie Christian soldier lies.

If this keeps happening it's not impossible that there could be a religious military coup at some point in the US.


I saw that movie it was AWESOME!!!

[Nitro Express]

My Trijicon sights on my Sig Sauer have no scriptures on them. They just glow in the dark. The manual says it's a radioactive isotope that makes them glow. Shit, maybe Jesus blessed the sight at the factory and it's a miracle.

[VanHalener]

The "Kill them all let God sort them out" verse for scope etching...

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

[Seshmeister]

Is that Al Queda or Christian?

I always get those two mixed up...

[Nickdfresh]

I've read that too, it's quite scary.

The extreme mental superstitionists have made a real determined attempt to take over the chaplaincy of many units of the US military pushing the fundie Christian soldier lies.

If this keeps happening it's not impossible that there could be a religious military coup at some point in the US.

Especially in the Air Force, which is ironic as the service with the most direct impact on digital technology is the one most ruled by aggressive, superstitious fuckwits...

It's also contributed to the disgruntlement and exodus of junior officers (the middle management), which was a critical problem a few years back...

[ZahZoo]

I think so? If not here we go........

Do you really think Tom Hanks is right for the third movie based on Dan Brown's new book, "The Secret Jesus Bible Code gun", I feel the franchise should go with a younger actor.....discuss.

I think he'd do fine... but call it Saving Private Mohammad...

[kwame k]

I think he'd do fine... but call it Saving Private Mohammad...

Ah, a plot twist;)

[thome]

Especially in the Air Force, which is ironic as the service with the most direct impact on digital technology is the one most ruled by aggressive, superstitious fuckwits...

It's also contributed to the disgruntlement and exodus of junior officers (the middle management), which was a critical problem a few years back...

I see now why you continually post editorials written by others to establish you talking points.

Because when you speak your own mind it is evident that you are a psycotic retarded punk full to the brim with completely made up BULLS!T, envy and hatred.

[kwame k]

Need to work on your sentence structure, Gnome......now this sounds better and closer to the truth.



Because when I speak my own mind it is evident that I am a psycotic retarded punk full to the brim with completely made up BULLS!T, envy and hatred.

[thome]

[QUOTE=k'waCHJOB (aka) LongeyoueclonepinchhitterKay;Because when I speak my own mind it is evident that I am a psycotic retarded punk full to the brim with completely made up BULLS!T, envy and hatred.QUOTE]

You KNOW ..???...................You Are Correct!

[Nickdfresh]

I see now why you continually post editorials written by others to establish you talking points.

Because when you speak your own mind it is evident that you are a psycotic retarded punk full to the brim with completely made up BULLS!T, envy and hatred.

I wasn't talking to you, unwashed bag of douche...

Keep spamming these threads and you're out again...

[kwame k]

[QUOTE=k'waCHJOB (aka) LongeyoueclonepinchhitterKay;Because when I speak my own mind it is evident that I am a psycotic retarded punk full to the brim with completely made up BULLS!T, envy and hatred.QUOTE]

You KNOW ..???...................You Are Correct!

You'd know because God knows I can't decipher that fucking nonsense.

[Nitro Express]

How about an inscription that says "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword."

[thome]

I wasn't talking to you, unwashed bag of douche...

Keep spamming these threads and you're out again...

This thread has turned 15 different directions, move every one else's off topic posts you Prick AssClown.

Isn't a douche bag washed as it's used..?

Perhaps used douche bag would be more insulting ..?

Your the spam king, you just think your words are gold; you are an ass with a god complex.

Blow me.

P. S. I was talking to you directly ...unless you own this site, kiss my douche ass.

[Nitro Express]

Especially in the Air Force, which is ironic as the service with the most direct impact on digital technology is the one most ruled by aggressive, superstitious fuckwits...

It's also contributed to the disgruntlement and exodus of junior officers (the middle management), which was a critical problem a few years back...

They sure have a bizzare fundamentalist Christian attitude at the Air Force Academy. I actually dated a daughter of an Air Force Colnel. She had big beautiful brown eyes and an ass to die for but her dad was a Christina nutball as was her whole family. The whole Aire Force culture in Colorado Springs was centered around unhealthy levels of Christian nutballery.

[kwame k]

That's why I don't venture out into Colorado Springs...........

[BITEYOASS]

Christian fundies don't last long in the USMC, they either quit and get drunk with the rest of us, or go insane from people not believing their BS. If anything, only three things come to mind: getting the mission accomplished, booze and most importantly POON TANG! :D

[thome]

They sure have a bizzare fundamentalist Christian attitude at the Air Force Academy. I actually dated a daughter of an Air Force Colnel. She had big beautiful brown eyes and an ass to die for but her dad was a Christina nutball as was her whole family. The whole Aire Force culture in Colorado Springs was centered around unhealthy levels of Christian nutballery.

Isn't that where the Air Force Cathedral is... wow, how could you expect the people who are in the Air Force there to be associated with a christian way of life..?

Especially the daughter of a Colonel.


And with your personal views on the connection and your innability to work it out, isn't it for the best you two broke up..?

Perhaps she found someone with similar ideals and is happy..?

Like we all hope we all do.

[thome]

That's why I don't venture out into Colorado Springs...........


Are you really affraid to go to Clorado Springs ?

Or are you blowing more ass kissing smoke ?

[kwame k]

Are you really affraid to go to Clorado Springs ?

Or are you blowing more ass kissing smoke ?

Lighten up huff head, it's a joke.......Jesus, your rantings over the last two days have been incoherent at best and moronic at worst.

[thome]

Lighten up huff head, it's a joke.......Jesus, your rantings over the last two days have been incoherent at best and moronic at worst.


I am unqualified to defend the military personel you guys are degrading and I find your words to be generalizations based on personal vendetta due to what I think is a warped sense of reality.

Or the American way of life.

So, I speak in the tone of the accusation and falsehood of your words.

You get pissed when you are challenged and that is all I am doing.

You make a post, when aggreable posts follow you all spank each other with the the little thamk spank button, and when I post against your statements you NEVER post anything in rebuttle to prove your acussatory stance, you just call the challenger a Huff head. Threaten to move thier posts.

I'll make you a deal: if you want to spend the rest of your life running away from people who challenge your base think alike group. If you aren't up to conversing with others who see the world from a different point of view.

Just say so.

[chefcraig]

Otter: Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!


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[kwame k]

I am unqualified to defend the military personel you guys are degrading and I find your words to be generalizations based on personal vendetta due to what I think is a warped sense of reality.

You definitely are unqualified to defend Military personel, I agree with you on that.


Or the American way of life.

Free speech for all, huff head, even idiots like you.


So, I speak in the tone of the accusation and falsehood of your words.


Really....you speak as if you have a 3rd grade education and are a pathetic right wing nut job who has never had an original thought and could only regurgitate what has been spoon fed to you.


You get pissed when you are challenged and that is all I am doing.

As typical of your huffed out posts, you have no idea what you posted yesterday, do you?
You were the Nancy Boy who had his panties in a bunch yesterday and went off your typical deep end......quick suggestion, reread you own posts, moron.

[thome]

Otter: Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!


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Great quasi interrogatorial three dimensional post CC. If I would have posted it it would be spam.

Awesome and within the context of the thread.

Well I liked it...so does that mean it is now bad...?

[thome]

You definitely are unqualified to defend Military personel, I agree with you on that.
Free speech for all, huff head, even idiots like you.
Really....you speak as if you have a 3rd grade education and are a pathetic right wing nut job who has never had an original thought and could only regurgitate what has been spoon fed to you.
As typical of your huffed out posts, you have no idea what you postedyesterday, do you?
You were the Nancy Boy who had his panties in a bunch yesterday and went off your typical deep end......quick suggestion, reread you own posts, moron.


I have a 9th grade education that I haven't used, as far as writing skills, since the 70's.

I always love how some people assume that because I am against thier position on political issues that must mean that I am "A Something".

That is the facism in thier concepts that they think is thier group identificational center.

This is the reason some of these people pove thier point always by describing a utopian world that is socialism, thier need to understand and catagorize .

So because these "Intellectuals" consume thier own souls with thier need to identify themselves by a -Group Think- to find thier puprose.

They immediatle catagorize any who oppose thier thoughts or thought statements, then these "others" must be catagorized to be understood.

As you all lose yourselves within these groups you lose your ability to think without labeling others.

True bigotry.

[kwame k]

No, Gnome....it's just a dumb luck that a label such as moron fits you.

[chefcraig]

I have a 9th grade education that I haven't used, as far as writing skills, since the 70's. I always love how some people assume that because I am against thier position on political issues that must mean that I am "A Something". That is the facism in thier concepts that they think is thier group identificational center. This is the reason some of these people pove thier point always by describing a utopian world that is socialism, thier need to understand and catagorize. So because these "Intellectuals" consume thier own souls with thier need to identify themselves by a -Group Think- to find thier puprose.They immediatle catagorize any who oppose thier thoughts or thought statements, then these "others" must be catagorized to be understood. As you all lose yourselves within these groups you lose your ability to think without labeling others.
True bigotry.

There is a certain amount of truth in what you are saying is taking place here and in other political forums across the country. Yes, there is a unfair amount of labeling that goes on, yet I strongly disagree that it is in any way fascistic. More than anything, I'd put it down to an honest degree of basic human nature, a point that you yourself addressed by acknowledging the "Group-Think" that is part and parcel of what is going on, country-wide.

Is there an inherent safety in numbers? By all means, of course there is, particularly in the body politic. All you need do to recognize this is to look at how words like "liberal" (for instance) have been adapted to no longer mean progressive thinking, yet rather in today's world defines a slur taken to describe someone that is unfocused and hopelessly unrealistic. As recently as 20 years ago, this same definition applied to the word romantic, yet both words inferred an optimism that has decidedly disappeared from the arena of political theory.

And I'm not talking about those dimwits that believed the world would change overnight if they voted for Obama. To simply put a new guy in charge of a system that is full of fault and expect immediate change is not only naive and genuinely idiotic, it also explains why the Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins continue to suck, year after year.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, bigotry. thome, the only thing I can tell you is that if you wish to present an alternative to the political thought taking place in a thread, simply do so. Lay out your ideas in a easy to fathom, rational manner. So what if people throw mud at you? Use that to dig in your heels, and go further into detail explaining your beliefs. Remember, it is up to you to prove your arguments. That in and of itself is the point of the entire exercise. And doing so with clarity and reason will eliminate the wise-cracks, believe me.

[thome]

No, Gnome....it's just a dumb luck that a label such as moron fits you.


Moron is kinda....like......searching the interent for articles that are thinly based on another situation and then proposing that article as a tool to desecrate a sacred trust between a soldier and his weapon.

It seems to be "Intellectual" because of the way it is worded and re-alighned towards a point that has absolutely nothing to do with the original situation.

These "things" are usually reworded to berate the America that these Intellectualls despise, yet still suckle at the tit of.

A exact example is: this HR problem that is the pathetic title of this thread,
some company that,
has a contract,
with a weapons manufacturer,
that has a contract,
with a company,
that sells weapons,
to a organization,
that assembles/ sells weapons,
to a company,
that sells these weapons,
to another company
that equips and trains police in a country 7000 miles away.


That is moronic.

Soon we will have page 4 of this nothing that some feel is a reason/need to be repected.

[thome]

There is a certain amount of truth in what you are saying is taking place here and in other political forums across the country. Yes, there is a unfair amount of labeling that goes on, yet I strongly disagree that it is in any way fascistic. More than anything, I'd put it down to an honest degree of basic human nature, a point that you yourself addressed by acknowledging the "Group-Think" that is part and parcel of what is going on, country-wide.

Is there an inherent safety in numbers? By all means, of course there is, particularly in the body politic. All you need do to recognize this is to look at how words like "liberal" (for instance) have been adapted to no longer mean progressive thinking, yet rather in today's world defines a slur taken to describe someone that is unfocused and hopelessly unrealistic. As recently as 20 years ago, this same definition applied to the word romantic, yet both words inferred an optimism that has decidedly disappeared from the arena of political theory.

And I'm not talking about those dimwits that believed the world would change overnight if they voted for Obama. To simply put a new guy in charge of a system that is full of fault and expect immediate change is not only naive and genuinely idiotic, it also explains why the Oakland Raiders and Washington Redskins continue to suck, year after year.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, bigotry. thome, the only thing I can tell you is that if you wish to present an alternative to the political thought taking place in a thread, simply do so. Lay out your ideas in a easy to fathom, rational manner. So what if people throw mud at you? Use that to dig in your heels, and go further into detail explaining your beliefs. Remember, it is up to you to prove your arguments. That in and of itself is the point of the entire exercise. And doing so with clarity and reason will eliminate the wise-cracks, believe me.

I would have beers with everyone in/on this most excellent website, and lively discussion would ensue and it would be good, perhaps. I would think it would be most excellent.

The above post reminds me of that.

Most excellent.

[standin]

If they were so proud of their Biblical code stamped onto the weapons, why did they not note the on their brochures and give a selection to choose from or collect? It would give reason to buy more than one scope of the same kind as a collection.

No, they were not proud. They were being subversive. They knew they were skirting, if not breaking order one.

Perhaps they have other issues they were feeling guilty about and were making up for it by being religious or what they perceived as a praise to God. It is a common red-flag.

Doing acts of good out of guilt is common.

[FORD]

Lighten up huff head, it's a joke.......Jesus, your rantings over the last two days have been incoherent at best and moronic at worst.

Must be a new brand of airplane glue?

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[ZahZoo]

I have a 9th grade education that I haven't used, as far as writing skills, since the 70's.

Proven on a daily basis here...

I generally ignore your posts because it's too much work to decypher your drivel... I once wondered if you had to give forethought to come off as creative... then dismissed that notion and assume it just flows freely for you...

[Nickdfresh]

This thread has turned 15 different directions, move every one else's off topic posts you Prick AssClown.

With you the prime suspect, gay porn fluff...


Isn't a douche bag washed as it's used..?

No moron, the vagina is. Something you obviously have little experience with...


Perhaps used douche bag would be more insulting ..?

Or more like used douche water swill, like the stuff in 12-packs of cans you buy ...


Your the spam king, you just think your words are gold; you are an ass with a god complex.

Well, assplayer, I actually fucking posted completely to the topic, and that got your leather, studded man-panties all in a bunch, didn't it! Who's the troll spammer, thread derailleur again?


Blow me.

I'm not your 13 year old niece...


P. S. I was talking to you directly ...unless you own this site, kiss my douche ass.

I'm talking to you back, directly. If you want a drunkin' spam, thread derailleur to blow off your innate frustration of never seeing a vaggie owned by someone not directly related you--fucking watch your step! or all your nights hard work of drunk-posting is goin away, fuckstick...