Sgt Schultz
01-22-2010, 10:01 PM
I really hope Howard Dean is the Dem... Communist nominee in 2012.
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MATTHEWS: Massachusetts voters had a choice between 'the public option' candidate and 'kill it,' and voted kill it. How do you explain that?
DEAN: These voters were sending a message to Washington. They asked for change --
MATTHEWS: But she said, "I want to give you the public option" and they said no to her.
DEAN: -- and they haven't gotten change.
MATTHEWS (interrupting): Governor, this is... This is... You're whistling past the graveyard here.
DEAN: I don't think so.
MATTHEWS: She ran for the public option.
DEAN: Our polling shows what it shows.
MATTHEWS: But she's for the public option and she got blown away!
DEAN: People who were for the p-poter... (stammering) voted for the public op... who are for the public option --
MATTHEWS: Why didn't they vote for the candidate of the public option, then?
DEAN: Because they wanted to send Washington the message: They want real change.
MATTHEWS: Voters of Massachusetts agree with you, but they voted Republican? That makes no sense.
DEAN: Oh, it does make --
MATTHEWS: If you went in the voting booth --
DEAN: Chris?
MATTHEWS: -- would you have voted for Scott Brown?
DEAN: Chris? I -- I -- I enjoy --
MATTHEWS: Would you have done this?
DEAN: Of course not.
MATTHEWS: Oh! You rationally would not have voted for the conservative Republican because he's against health care, but you say the voters are irrational. They somehow send smoke signals in their voting. They vote for a conservative Republican who's totally against health care to tell the country they want a progressive health care program. That's crazy!
DEAN: We know what they did.
MATTHEWS: Are voters crazy?
DEAN: We actually know that they did.
MATTHEWS: Are voters crazy?
DEAN: Chris, there's only one crazy person around here, and I may hold up a mirror. You may see him in a minute here.
MATTHEWS: But you mean that voters...?
DEAN: Don't be silly.
MATTHEWS: I'm just looking at the results. I'm not cheering them; I'm looking at them. And you're not looking at them.
DEAN: We --
MATTHEWS: You're saying no matter who won... Suppose Coakley had won. You would have said that was a victory for progressive Democrats. Wouldn't it be?
DEAN: No, I woulda said --
MATTHEWS: Wouldn't you have said it if she won?
DEAN: I -- I -- I would have said, "Thank God the right person won."
MATTHEWS: Okay. In other words, if she wins, that's a victory for your side. If she loses, that's a victory for your side.
DEAN: I think people are sending a strong message to Washington. They want strong leadership, they want real change, and they don't want to accommodate the special interests. Most of what the verdict in Massachusetts was is that we'd rather have no bill than what we've got. That's what the verdict in Massachusetts is.
MATTHEWS: Well, they did decide they wanted no bill. This guy with the barn coat that said, "I'm going to vote to kill the bill," won. I would say that the people who are against the bill won.
DEAN: I think that's true, but don't forget there are a lot of people against the bill who were Obama's core base and voted against Martha Coakley.
MATTHEWS: You want to know what? Martha Coakley was with you, and she lost.
DEAN: Yeah, well, you know... You're welcome.
MATTHEWS: She was totally with Howard Dean, and she lost.
DEAN: Well... Whether she was or wasn't, I didn't follow the campaign all that closely.
MATTHEWS: She votes exactly like you on this issue, with the progressive position --
DEAN: Yeah?
MATTHEWS: -- the public option. She said she was for that position and the voters said, "No, thank you."
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MATTHEWS: Massachusetts voters had a choice between 'the public option' candidate and 'kill it,' and voted kill it. How do you explain that?
DEAN: These voters were sending a message to Washington. They asked for change --
MATTHEWS: But she said, "I want to give you the public option" and they said no to her.
DEAN: -- and they haven't gotten change.
MATTHEWS (interrupting): Governor, this is... This is... You're whistling past the graveyard here.
DEAN: I don't think so.
MATTHEWS: She ran for the public option.
DEAN: Our polling shows what it shows.
MATTHEWS: But she's for the public option and she got blown away!
DEAN: People who were for the p-poter... (stammering) voted for the public op... who are for the public option --
MATTHEWS: Why didn't they vote for the candidate of the public option, then?
DEAN: Because they wanted to send Washington the message: They want real change.
MATTHEWS: Voters of Massachusetts agree with you, but they voted Republican? That makes no sense.
DEAN: Oh, it does make --
MATTHEWS: If you went in the voting booth --
DEAN: Chris?
MATTHEWS: -- would you have voted for Scott Brown?
DEAN: Chris? I -- I -- I enjoy --
MATTHEWS: Would you have done this?
DEAN: Of course not.
MATTHEWS: Oh! You rationally would not have voted for the conservative Republican because he's against health care, but you say the voters are irrational. They somehow send smoke signals in their voting. They vote for a conservative Republican who's totally against health care to tell the country they want a progressive health care program. That's crazy!
DEAN: We know what they did.
MATTHEWS: Are voters crazy?
DEAN: We actually know that they did.
MATTHEWS: Are voters crazy?
DEAN: Chris, there's only one crazy person around here, and I may hold up a mirror. You may see him in a minute here.
MATTHEWS: But you mean that voters...?
DEAN: Don't be silly.
MATTHEWS: I'm just looking at the results. I'm not cheering them; I'm looking at them. And you're not looking at them.
DEAN: We --
MATTHEWS: You're saying no matter who won... Suppose Coakley had won. You would have said that was a victory for progressive Democrats. Wouldn't it be?
DEAN: No, I woulda said --
MATTHEWS: Wouldn't you have said it if she won?
DEAN: I -- I -- I would have said, "Thank God the right person won."
MATTHEWS: Okay. In other words, if she wins, that's a victory for your side. If she loses, that's a victory for your side.
DEAN: I think people are sending a strong message to Washington. They want strong leadership, they want real change, and they don't want to accommodate the special interests. Most of what the verdict in Massachusetts was is that we'd rather have no bill than what we've got. That's what the verdict in Massachusetts is.
MATTHEWS: Well, they did decide they wanted no bill. This guy with the barn coat that said, "I'm going to vote to kill the bill," won. I would say that the people who are against the bill won.
DEAN: I think that's true, but don't forget there are a lot of people against the bill who were Obama's core base and voted against Martha Coakley.
MATTHEWS: You want to know what? Martha Coakley was with you, and she lost.
DEAN: Yeah, well, you know... You're welcome.
MATTHEWS: She was totally with Howard Dean, and she lost.
DEAN: Well... Whether she was or wasn't, I didn't follow the campaign all that closely.
MATTHEWS: She votes exactly like you on this issue, with the progressive position --
DEAN: Yeah?
MATTHEWS: -- the public option. She said she was for that position and the voters said, "No, thank you."
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