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Sarah Palin
Palin's Palm Holds the Answers
by Mike Krumboltz
2 hours ago

1,905 Votes
Remember those quizzes you had on the state capitals back in junior high? Oh, the pressure! The temptation to write "Pierre, Olympia, Dover, Albany" on the inside of your hand was overwhelming, wasn't it? But you resisted. Maybe Sarah Palin should have done the same.

The former vice presidential candidate seems to have been caught using curious crib notes during an interview this past weekend at the high-profile Tea Party Convention in Nashville. While speaking about her top political priorities, Ms. Palin gazed at her hand in a rather suspicious manner.

Later, Web researchers zoomed in on her left palm and found the following words scrawled in black ink: "Energy, Budget cuts (with "budget" crossed out), Tax, Lift American Spirits." In an ironic twist during the speech, Ms. Palin worked in a jab against President Obama's often-mocked use of TelePrompTers. You can watch the clip below or check out a close-up here.


The Buzz Log - Palin's Palm Holds the Answers - Yahoo! Buzz (http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1)

[FORD]

And yet, with all of her cheating, the dumb cunt still managed to say "Alaska" when ever her right wing script (which she probably didn't write - just like her book) said "America".

Unless her husband Todd wrote it. Since he's a registered member of the secessionist "Alaskan Independence Party", maybe he really DID mean to say "Alaska", since he doesn't believe in America.

[BigBadBrian]

And yet, with all of her cheating, the dumb cunt...

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Since verbal assaults against certain people using vile descriptive terms is OK, is it OK if we call Obama a "lying Negro?" Or more descriptively (and recently), a "light skinned Negro with no Negro dialect?"

There is no difference in those two types of insults.

[kwame k]

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Since verbal assaults against certain people using vile descriptive terms is OK, is it OK if we call Obama a "lying Negro?" Or more descriptively (and recently), a "light skinned Negro with no Negro dialect?"

There is no difference in those two types of insults.

No it's not OK using the N-Word here. Why? The guy that owns this place and pays the bills doesn't want it......Really can't be any clearer then that.

As far as calling Palin a dumb cunt.....can you think of a better descriptive word for her? If she's not a text book definition of the phrase, I don't know who is.

[jhale667]

Nice try, Brie...(welcome back, btw) but you can't really compare the two. You know this, but you figured you'd try to go there anyway, huh?



No it's not OK using the N-Word here. Why? The guy that owns this place and pays the bills doesn't want it......Really can't be any clearer then that.

As far as calling Palin a dumb cunt.....can you think of a better descriptive word for her? If she's not a text book definition of the phrase, I don't know who is.

Never did a better descriptor exist for her. That speech made my skin crawl - not like her voice doesn't do it to me already, but the BS she was spewing, coupled with the lame-ass crib notes -while simultaneously making the zillionth uber-lame teleprompter crack? It's like she's TRYING to see how far she can get into NEGATIVE credibility points...less than zero already...

[FORD]

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!


Please...... shall we look up all the things you have said about Hillary, Judy Dean, or Judas IsKerryot's wife Theresa? :rolleyes:

[Nitro Express]

Mitt Romney will get the Republican nomination over nutball Sarah Palin. She will continue to draw lots of attention, make lot's of money but when the Republicans choose their candidate they will avoid her like the plague. Choosing her as a running mate blew McCain out of the water. It was a huge mistake and now the bitch has her 15 minutes of fame and is exploiting it to the max.

[Nitro Express]

Obama who was a champion debater at Harvard would eat the bitch for lunch if she went up against him. The Republicans need somebody who can face Obama in a public debate and not look like a fool. Sarah is a celebrity and that's it. The economy will be pretty hammered by the time we start the presidential campaign stuff and people are going to be looking for substance and solutions and not a media whore.

[jhale667]

And gee, Palin's undeniable C-word factor aside, since this is about Republicans and racism was brought up, anyone think Tom Tancredo SHOULDN"T be drawn and quartered for trying to bring back "literacy" tests for voting?? :mad:

Tom Tancredo got idea for civics literacy tests critics call racist from an immigrant

Tom Tancredo got idea for civics literacy tests critics call racist from an immigrant - Denver News - The Latest Word (http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/02/tom_tancredo_got_idea_for_civi.php)

Last week, ex-Congressman and former presidential candidate Tom Tancredo, delivering the keynote address at the First National Tea Party Convention, drew accusations of racism when he suggested that President Barack Obama was elected partly because "we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote... People who could not even spell the word 'vote' or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House."

Tancredo scoffs at the notion that these remarks were racially motivated. As evidence, he reveals that the person who helped spur the idea of a civics literacy test for voting was what he describes as "a black guy" driving a limo in Detroit who happened to be studying for his citizenship test.

The incident took place in July 2007 during Tancredo's presidential run, when he became the sole Republican candidate to accept an invitation to speak before the NAACP convention. "I always joke about the fact that this debate was the only one I won, because I was the only one who showed up," he allows. "They had nine podiums and I went out and stood by the one with my name on it, and took all their questions."

When he flew to Detroit prior to the event, he did so solo. "I didn't travel with an entourage. It was just me when I got off the plane, and I had on jeans and a sweat shirt and a baseball hat. And the people who were putting on the debate sent a limo to pick me up.

"The driver was a black guy, and we started making conversation. He said in very precise English, 'What are you doing here?'" Tancredo goes on, effecting an Indian accent when speaking for the driver. "I said, 'Because they asked me.' He said, 'Why?' I said, 'Because I'm running for president. He said, 'Naaaah.'"

After a laugh, Tancredo continues the tale.

"I said, 'Honestly, I am running for president. I know it doesn't look like it, but I'm really running. And I'm a congressman.' And he said, 'Ah, congress,' and he picks up this sheaf of papers on the front seat and starts giving all these facts: 'There are 535 members of congress, with one-hundred in the Senate and 435 in the House. And the United States flag has thirteen stripes, standing for the original thirteen colonies...'

"I said, 'You're going to take your citizenship test?' And he said, 'Yes.' And I said, 'I'll bet we could ask any of the people out there to come over and try to answer questions about what you just said, and I'll bet you wouldn't get ten out of a hundred who would know any of this stuff.' And when I told people this story when I came home, I talked about how immigrants have to know more than people born here have to know, and isn't that ironic, to say the least."

Such subjects had been on Tancredo's mind thanks to Howard Stern and Jay Leno, who put together comedy bits in which they asked seemingly typical people basic questions, and often received moronic answers in response.

"I know I talked about this stuff at least twice on KOA," a Denver radio station where he has served as both guest and fill-in host. "We ran these things and talked about civics literacy and how bad it is. You'd see all these polls taken on college campuses, where students couldn't name the first three presidents and things like that."

In an attempt to combat this problem, Tancredo discussed possible legislation for a civics-literacy test with his chief of staff, Mac Zimmerman, who currently works for state senator Josh Penry.

"We pursued it quite far," he recalls, only to discover that "there were all kinds of problems" with a proposal of this sort. "The responsibility for developing voting requirements is at the state level, but the federal government will tell you, and has told you, what you can and can't do, and who you can't keep from voting -- although there's nothing that says who you may allow to vote.

"So we pursued it as far as we could, but it didn't look like there was anything we could get through. Well, we knew we couldn't get anything through, but I thought it would be good to at least raise the issue -- and we wouldn't have had the ability to even have a hearing about it. There would have been a lot of opposition, to be sure, so it seemed fruitless."

Nonetheless, the notion retains an appeal for Tancredo, which is why he mentioned it at the Tea Party Convention, to which he traveled at his own expense. According to him, the people he met there didn't seem anything like the loonbag stereotypes portrayed by liberals.

"They were really just regular folks who've gotten together for sort of a unique purpose -- to express a concern about the country they love," he says. "And it was fun because there was this big hotel, with lots of people going around -- the same kind of thing you see at any other political event. But no one was there to stump for anybody, or to get you to vote for anybody, or to put forth a specific agenda."

During Tancredo's speech, the reaction was enthusiastic: "There were at least three standing ovations and a bunch of interruptions, so I've got to assume my message was well-received."

Nonetheless, he was startled about the portion of his comments that got the most play.

"The only thing that was discouraging to me was I was really hoping to have a lot more attention drawn to my remarks about John McCain, who I dislike intensely and hoped wouldn't win," he says. "That was three-quarters of the speech, but the Wall Street Journal was the only one to write about that part of it. The rest took a different focus in order to embarrass, I think, the Tea Party, and to make it appear as though, well, 'We know these folks are a bunch of redneck-hillbilly racists, and Tancredo is a perfect example of that.'"

Still, Tancredo has no problem defending the concept of a civics-literacy test, which he thinks could be based on the type of citizenship test his driver in Detroit was asked to take. Indeed, he recently sent a note to Terrance Carroll, speaker of the Colorado House, challenging him to find anything racially questionable in these questions.

At the same time, Tancredo admits to some self-interest in the passage of such a measure.

"It's my belief that if you had a really well-grounded understanding of the free market and the Republic, you would more likely than not vote Republican, or at least conservative," he maintains.

That said, he concedes there may well have been as many Caucasian John McCain voters as non-native-born Obama supporters who would have failed a civics literacy test.

"Civics literacy isn't a fact of race," he emphasizes. "It's not a racial trait or characteristic, although the people who attack me all the time must consider it that."

According to Tancredo, he meets a lot of people he'd consider ignorant from a civics-literacy standpoint, "and when I look at them, they're not black, and they're not brown -- they're just stupid. This is the honest to God truth, but when I've talked about this, and when I see things on the news, I'm not picturing in my mind black people saying these things, or brown people. I'm picturing those people on Howard Stern and Jay Leno. And to the best of my recollection, I think most of them were white."

Not that such arguments are likely to convince critics that his heart is in the right place.

"I haven't had so much nasty mail since I said something about bombing Mecca," he notes. "At first, I wondered why they were so damned defensive -- but it's probably because they voted for Obama and thought I was calling them stupid. And maybe they are stupid from my perspective -- but that doesn't mean they're necessarily stupid people."

Funny, from my perspective, HE's pretty fucking stupid.

Saw this on MSNBC last night too, and the commentator noted the majority of people who voted for Obama were white...so there goes Tom's premise out the window....


But I guess we're supposed to be OK with THIS form of discrimination, since it's only against BROWN people....? :rolleyes:

Seriously doubting his "black limo driver" was the source of said "idea" either.

[FORD]

TanKKKredo is such a joke, even Repukes wouldn't vote for him.

Funny thing is, if his "literacy tests" were actually used, and applied to everyone, most of the Chimp/Palin fans votes would be lost. Those people literally like the idea of voting for somebody as fucking stupid as they are.

Of course, in the old south, they never gave those tests to the white folks.

[Nitro Express]

Cunt isn't a racial word but ****** is. There really is no good place for the word ******. If you don't agree with a black person or don't like them, call them a cunt or a dork or a mother fucker or whatever. ****** just goes back to demeaning a race of people it goes back to times where nations thought they would be justified as using another race as work animals and property because they were another color and less. Everyone should be treated equal and the insults should be equal. Call them a swine fucking dork instead of a ******, chink, spic, paddy, wop, rag head ect...

[Nitro Express]

If you don't like Obama, don't bring his skin color into the issue. Call him a Bush chimp fucking, Sarah Palin cunt licking mother fucker who tosses Rohm Emanuel's salad and pumps Timothy Gietner off with a pnematic device.

[Blackflag]

Cunt isn't a racial word but ****** is.

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.

[BigBadBrian]

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.


Exactly! Racism and Misogynism are both hatred on the same level. To deny that simple fact is illogical.

Besides, calling Sarah Palin a "dumb cunt" is just another play out of the Liberal/Progressive/Socialist playbook of insulting the individual when you can't argue against their point or message.

[jhale667]

TanKKKredo is such a joke, even Repukes wouldn't vote for him.

Funny thing is, if his "literacy tests" were actually used, and applied to everyone, most of the Chimp/Palin fans votes would be lost. Those people literally like the idea of voting for somebody as fucking stupid as they are.

Of course, in the old south, they never gave those tests to the white folks.

Exactly, exactly.

[jhale667]

Exactly! Racism and Misogynism are both hatred on the same level. To deny that simple fact is illogical.

Besides, calling Sarah Palin a "dumb cunt" is just another play out of the Liberal/Progressive/Socialist playbook of insulting the individual when you can't argue against their point or message.

On the same level? Not quite.


And your point about Palin fails, as she HAS NO point or message to argue against. She's a scumbag, and still would be so were she a he.

[LoungeMachine]

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.

I disagree.

I've called many guys dumb cunts too.

And told male friends not to be such a cunt.

Replace cunt with pussy if you will....

I'm not saying it's NOT mysogynistic to call a woman a cunt, however


And Brie is wrong about his "they call her a cunt because they can't argue her points"

:lmao:

No, people call her dumb because she is.

You dont think so because you think she's hot, and she spouts your talking points.....

:gulp:

[BigBadBrian]

Cunt isn't a racial word but ****** is. There really is no good place for the word ******. If you don't agree with a black person or don't like them, call them a cunt or a dork or a mother fucker or whatever. ****** just goes back to demeaning a race of people it goes back to times where nations thought they would be justified as using another race as work animals and property because they were another color and less. Everyone should be treated equal and the insults should be equal. Call them a swine fucking dork instead of a ******, chink, spic, paddy, wop, rag head ect...


...or cunt?

I'd like people for once to argue against Palin's points instead of insulting her. Hell, I might even agree with them on an issue or two.

[jhale667]

I disagree.

I've called many guys dumb cunts too.

And told male friends not to be such a cunt.

Replace cunt with pussy if you will....

I'm not saying it's NOT mysogynistic to call a woman a cunt, however


And Brie is wrong about his "they call her a cunt because they can't argue her points"

:lmao:

No, people call her dumb because she is.

You dont think so because you think she's hot, and she spouts your talking points.....

:gulp:


Nailed it. For example: Buttflap = Cunt. See? :lmao:


And read my last post and Lounge's twice so it sinks in Brie...you're in lust with a brainless bimbo who'd be better suited to be a FAUX news personality - were it not for that nails-on-a-chalkboard VOICE....someone first must have a point to argue against, so you can forget that one. ;)

God forbid she EVER gets another position of power of ANY sort...much less the Presidency.

[BigBadBrian]

On the same level? Not quite.


And your point about Palin fails, as she HAS NO point or message to argue against. She's a scumbag, and still would be so were she a he.

Yes, they ARE on the same level. Hatred against one group of people OR against another group. Both groups have centuries of hate hurled against them that continues to this day.

And you just proved my point about not being able to put up any worthwhile debate against Sarah Palin. I expected better from you.

[BigBadBrian]

You dont think so because you think she's hot, and she spouts your talking points.....

:gulp:

She's a MILF to be sure, but I don't agree with all of her "talking points." That's painting my own political views with a rather broad brush.

[Nickdfresh]

Yes, they ARE on the same level. Hatred against one group of people OR against another group. Both groups have centuries of hate hurled against them that continues to this day.
....

You mean like questioning or impugning someone's patriotism because they have different views that you do?;)

[Blackflag]

I disagree.

I've called many guys dumb cunts too.

And told male friends not to be such a cunt.

Replace cunt with pussy if you will....

I'm not saying it's NOT mysogynistic to call a woman a cunt, however


And I know an Indian (hindi) that calls his white friend "******." And I think I've called you ****** before. So, using your logic, "******" is not racist.

Just replace "******" with "dumbass" if you will....right?




You dont think so because you think she's hot, and she spouts your talking points.....

She hasn't said a single thing I agree with. But I do think she's hot.

Real hot. I'd definitely throw her a fuck.

[Blackflag]

And to be clear, I think you're all fucking cunts. I just don't like illogical people.

[BigBadBrian]

You mean like questioning or impugning someone's patriotism because they have different views that you do?;)

I'm glad you brought that up, Nick:

WH: Some Critics 'Serving the Goals of al Qaeda'* - Political Punch (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/wh-some-critics-serving-the-goals-of-al-qaeda.html)


WH: Some Critics 'Serving the Goals of al Qaeda'*
February 09, 2010 7:16 AM


In an oped in USA Today, John Brennan -- Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism -- responds to critics of the Obama administration's counterterrorism policies by saying "Politically motivated criticism and unfounded fear-mongering only serve the goals of al-Qaeda."

Brennan writes that, "Terrorists are not 100-feet tall. Nor do they deserve the abject fear they seek to instill."

In the oped, titled "'We need no lectures': Administration disrupts terrorists’ plots, takes fight to them abroad," Brennan writes that politics "should never get in the way of national security. But too many in Washington are now misrepresenting the facts to score political points, instead of coming together to keep us safe."

The administration op-ed is in response to a USA Today editorial entitled "National security team fails to inspire confidence; Officials’ handling of Christmas Day attack looks like amateur hour."

Brennan provides a detailed defense of the administration's handling of failed Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab whom, he says, was "thoroughly interrogated and provided important information."

He suggests that many critics are hypocritical and clueless.

The most important breakthrough in the interrogation occurred "after Abdulmutallab was read his rights, which the FBI made standard policy under Michael Mukasey, President Bush's attorney general," he writes, noting that failed shoe bomber Richard Reid "was read his Miranda rights five minutes after being taken off a plane he tried to blow up. The same people who criticize the president today were silent back then."

Brennan said anyone who wants to change the policy would be casting aside lessons learned "in waging this war" on extremists.

"Terrorists such as Jose Padilla and Saleh al-Mari did not cooperate when transferred to military custody, which can harden one's determination to resist cooperation," he writes.

He calls it "naive to think that transferring Abdulmutallab to military custody would have caused an outpouring of information. There is little difference between military and civilian custody, other than an interrogator with a uniform. The suspect gets access to a lawyer, and interrogation rules are nearly identical."

Moreover, Brennan says, hundreds of terrorists have been convicted in criminal courts while only three have been convicted in the military tribunal system.

The former CIA official also asserts that the Obama administration is doing a better job than the Bush administration did in taking the fight to al Qaeda. "This administration's efforts have disrupted dozens of terrorist plots against the homeland and been responsible for killing and capturing hundreds of hard-core terrorists, including senior leaders in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and beyond — far more than in 2008."

"We need no lectures about the fact that this nation is at war," he says.

USA Today's editorial writers see it all a bit differently, of course, writing that though "the Obama administration's national security officials have struggled to assure the public that they know exactly what they're doing," they are so far "achieving the opposite, and they're needlessly adding some jitters in the process."

The editorial writers fault the Obama administration for announcing "last week that an attack by al-Qaeda is likely in the next three to six months. The warning is bound to frighten the public, with no obvious benefit beyond the ability to say 'I told you so.'"

They also refer to National Intelligence Director Admiral Dennis Blair (ret.) as having "had a 'Duh!' moment" for acknowledging that "authorities fumbled the initial questioning of Abdulmutallab by failing to call in the high-value interrogation group, which was created to question terrorism suspects. Refreshingly candid, yes, but not a statement that inspires confidence. Especially when the same day, at another Senate hearing, FBI Director Robert Mueller testified that the high-value unit was still in its 'formation stages' and that 'there was no time' to get it to Detroit."

USA Today's editorial writers say that when senior administration officials revealed Abdulmutallab's cooperation with authorities, "the news pretty much negate(d) earlier claims that no intelligence was lost when Abdulmutallab was prematurely read his rights."

- jpt

UPDATE: Missouri Sen. Christopher "Kit" Bond, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said in response to the Brennan op-ed: "The only one making this political is the White House. The Administration must do better, because trying to pass the buck for their dangerous decisions and divulging sensitive information to al Qaeda is not an effective terror-fighting strategy."
WH: Some Critics 'Serving the Goals of al Qaeda'* - Political Punch (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/02/wh-some-critics-serving-the-goals-of-al-qaeda.html)

[Nickdfresh]

I'm glad you brought that up, Nick:

...

Maybe next time you can come with something that's actually related in order to attempt a "clever" "segue."

[ZahZoo]

As far as calling Palin a dumb cunt.....can you think of a better descriptive word for her? If she's not a text book definition of the phrase, I don't know who is.

I don't think dumb cunt is an appropriate descriptive term for her or any other woman with maybe the possible exception of my ex-wife. Nah even then it ain't nice or polite...

To a certain extent did she use looks and charm to gain public office? Do those qualities seem fine for males but despised in females in public office?

Seriously there's a lot of people with looks and charm but could never have enough intelligence to even get their name on a ballot, let alone be elected Governor of a state.

If you dislike Palin because she's a Republican who was a vice-presidential nominee, a politician, a woman, a mother, a brunette, a former cheerleader or sportscaster or whatever your stupid beef is... be man or woman enough to call it straight without being derogatory about it...

I know most the time we're all just farting around on the net here... Sometimes I read stuff here and the genderal bigotry just isn't civil and I gotta wonder about some of you who on other subjects seem decent and articulate. :umm:

[FORD]

Hey, I think Chimpy was a dumb cunt too. It's about the stupidity, not the gender! :biggrin:

[LoungeMachine]

. I just don't like illogical people.

:lmao:

Yet here you are, every day.......

:gulp:

[Seshmeister]

And you just proved my point about not being able to put up any worthwhile debate against Sarah Palin. I expected better from you.

Stop being a dumb cunt Brian...

[Guitar Shark]

She's a MILF to be sure, but I don't agree with all of her "talking points." That's painting my own political views with a rather broad brush.

In your case a crayon would be more appropriate...

[Seshmeister]

Also I don't see how showing that dumb sick dangerous useless lying cunt Palin is stupid makes them all stupid.

It shows that McCain and his advisors are stupid.

It shows that 2008 Republican voters were stupid but maybe not as stupid as 2004 Republican voters.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I disagree.

I've called many guys dumb cunts too.

Oh sure, even Peter Grant told the security dude in The Song Remains The Same, "Who's in charge of security ya silly cunt ?"

[Blackflag]

:lmao:

Yet here you are, every day.......

:gulp:

I think you get confused about when I'm talking about you, personally, and when I'm talking about the forum as a whole.

[Seshmeister]

Bottom line is she is such a dumb cunt you don't need to even debate her all you need to do is let her speak...

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[Nitro Express]

It's not racist, but it's sexist. You know I'm for people calling people whatever they like, but it's logically inconsistent to be against one but not the other. Either that, or super-PC. So I see Brian's point.

For the most part is rude and in poor taste and your language reflects you. Typically gutter language makes a person look less sophisticated and undisciplined. Gutter language is fun and effective shock value. Using more refined language is less exciting and less shocking but again using gutter language takes your image to that level. So insult someone with a bigger vocabulary.:biggrin: Use big complicated words. Instead of cunt say they have the essence of a female reproductive organ or maybe call them a vagina in latin.:biggrin:

[Nitro Express]

She's a MILF to be sure, but I don't agree with all of her "talking points." That's painting my own political views with a rather broad brush.

All these men who say they hate Sarah Palin. The reality is if she came into their room at night in a robe, dropped the robe and stood beside the bed naked and said,"take me, I'm yours!" Most of the men would fuck her. She is a Mom I would Like to Fuck. Most definately.

[FORD]

Even Meghan McCain thinks the teabaggers are a bunch of dumb racist cunts....

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[kwame k]

All these men who say they hate Sarah Palin. The reality is if she came into their room at night in a robe, dropped the robe and stood beside the bed naked and said,"take me, I'm yours!" Most of the men would fuck her. She is a Mom I would Like to Fuck. Most definately.

There are many women I'd like to get in the sack but do I want them running my country, hell no! I'm sure the ladies would agree about men, too. Just because she's hot.....stop looking at her tits and actually listen to what comes out of her mouth, fer Christ's sake!

What does she stand for? Drill baby drill, I'm sure she does, hubby's gotta make some money,....the point is, she stands for nothing other than furthering her career in politics.....maybe not even that now, more like celebrity.

If she just wants to be famous and make a ton of money, God bless her.....if she thinks for a second she's going to run this country, forget it.

[kwame k]

I don't think dumb cunt is an appropriate descriptive term for her or any other woman with maybe the possible exception of my ex-wife. Nah even then it ain't nice or polite...

To a certain extent did she use looks and charm to gain public office? Do those qualities seem fine for males but despised in females in public office?

Seriously there's a lot of people with looks and charm but could never have enough intelligence to even get their name on a ballot, let alone be elected Governor of a state.

If you dislike Palin because she's a Republican who was a vice-presidential nominee, a politician, a woman, a mother, a brunette, a former cheerleader or sportscaster or whatever your stupid beef is... be man or woman enough to call it straight without being derogatory about it...

I know most the time we're all just farting around on the net here... Sometimes I read stuff here and the genderal bigotry just isn't civil and I gotta wonder about some of you who on other subjects seem decent and articulate. :umm:

If it was someone on this board, other than the complete idiots, or in real life, then I agree but other than that, like you say it's just the net. There's a time and place for it.

As far as Palin goes...if anyone can tell me what she actually stands for, I'd be more than happy to debate them.....

Can't say I see cunt as anymore offensive than dick head....Idiots know no race, gender, or religious bounds...a dumb cunt is a dumb cunt.

[sadaist]

Exactly! Racism and Misogynism are both hatred on the same level. To deny that simple fact is illogical.



I agree. There isn't a little hate or a lot of hate. It either is or it isn't.




Besides, calling Sarah Palin a "dumb cunt" is just another play out of the Liberal/Progressive/Socialist playbook of insulting the individual when you can't argue against their point or message.

Ugh. Being a conservative, I wish I had a better representative out there. Something about Palin that just irks me. The way she kinda talks to everyone like they're a child in a facetious tone. I don't know how else to put it. I agree with a lot of what she says. But it's just stuff she has been told to say. Like cramming for a physics test. You can spout the answers, but have no clue about the application of the theories and forget them immediately afterwards.

I don't know how much I blame her though. She's making oodles of money now, so why shouldn't she ride this wave of popularity? The problem I see for the Republicans is that some see her as saving the party...I see her as it's eventual demise.

[jhale667]

And you just proved my point about not being able to put up any worthwhile debate against Sarah Palin. I expected better from you.


Yeah, yeah..."what can I say about (her) that hasn't been said about Rwanda"...etc.

Be real. Her idiotic record should speak for itself by now. That, and every time I think about sitting through that lame-ass palmed speech the other night...I throw up in my mouth a little. :barf:


Maybe that 7K she skimmed off her book-(re)sales is going towards a teleprompter fund... :hee:

[sadaist]

I just don't understand the whole hand thing. If it had stuff like...87.6%, 62.3 Billion, 47 percent rating, passed 1982, etc...I get it. Everyone needs notes and isn't expected to remember every fucking exact number & date of shit. Even foreign leaders names. Hell, I can only name a few. But she just had a few happy words? She couldn't remember super easy stuff like that?

[Blackflag]

I could give her something to remember.

[ZahZoo]

If it was someone on this board, other than the complete idiots, or in real life, then I agree but other than that, like you say it's just the net. There's a time and place for it.

As far as Palin goes...if anyone can tell me what she actually stands for, I'd be more than happy to debate them.....

Can't say I see cunt as anymore offensive than dick head....Idiots know no race, gender, or religious bounds...a dumb cunt is a dumb cunt.

I agree... please pardon my outburst of civility in this forum. Every once in a while my psychosis gets the better of me.

Being a dad with 3 daughters & 2 sons... I'd just hate to see any of them become successful in public life and have to see some of the vile crap that people spew... deserved or not.

Carry on...

[LoungeMachine]

I could give her something to remember.

Your herpes?

:gulp:

[kwame k]

I agree... please pardon my outburst of civility in this forum. Every once in a while my psychosis gets the better of me.

Being a dad with 3 daughters & 2 sons... I'd just hate to see any of them become successful in public life and have to see some of the vile crap that people spew... deserved or not.

Carry on...

I can understand that, Zah. I guess sometimes I don't see our leaders as people and get more into their policy than the human element.

Really I hate to say this but....if I had an ounce of respect for Palin I would never call her that.....there are many people I disagree with but still have respect for. If you ever notice I rarely ever use the word but in her case I made an exception.

As far as your daughters go....I've read enough of your posts to have a good idea you haven't raised nut jobs like Palin, so I doubt anyone would use that term to describe them.

[bueno bob]

Palin...at the end of the day, even a cursory look at her record reveals her to be little more than a career opportunist, regardless of what line of work she's in. But given the extremely limited amount of talent, intelligence and work ethic she has, being an opportunist is really her only option, so I can't hardly blame her for it. I mean, what else does she have to fall back on? It's quite clear to anybody with more than two digits in their overall IQ that she's grossly unprepared for the global stage, and a deeper look at her record in Alaska reveals her to be unprepared for even THAT limited stage.

It's unfortunate that such a lucky nincompoop like her gets the ears and hearts of so many people, but like attracts like and that's why there will always be a market for fucking idiots.

[kwame k]

What we're seeing in the GOP is the exact same thing that pissed me off about the Democrats years back.....you bitch about everything but have no solutions. You don't like what Congress is proposing then come up with a better bill or proposal. Take your case to the American people and win over their approval.

The Republicans are stuck in the Carl Rove mentality....be afraid, be very afraid. Obama is a communist, Obama is a Socialist, Obama is a...whatever other "ist" you got.
You may get the micro-wave mentality class of Americans to buy into that but the reality is most thinking people will not buy that.

So Obama hasn't done anything and a year later still hasn't done anything.....bullshit. No matter who the President is, it takes more than a year to undo all the damage that has been done to our country. Not a popular stance but it's the truth.

Now back to Palin....what is her comprehensive plan to put America back on track? What specific things doesn't she like about what Congress and the President are doing? What would she propose to do differently? Anyone know?

[Unchainme]

Palin...at the end of the day, even a cursory look at her record reveals her to be little more than a career opportunist, regardless of what line of work she's in. But given the extremely limited amount of talent, intelligence and work ethic she has, being an opportunist is really her only option, so I can't hardly blame her for it. I mean, what else does she have to fall back on? It's quite clear to anybody with more than two digits in their overall IQ that she's grossly unprepared for the global stage, and a deeper look at her record in Alaska reveals her to be unprepared for even THAT limited stage.

It's unfortunate that such a lucky nincompoop like her gets the ears and hearts of so many people, but like attracts like and that's why there will always be a market for fucking idiots.

Agreed on all points.

I really wish that for once, the republican party or someone could put someone that would stand on the basis of a lesser gov't and cutting spending across the board, but at the same are qualified, wasn't born with a silver spoon in their mouth and wern't morally in the wrong, (IE, in bed with the oil companies.)

Hell, even people I completely disagree with on policy, I wouldn't mind having a bigger influence in the gov't, like a kucinich would be great to see. I'm tired of seeing my gov't just being used as a giant auction for special interest groups on BOTH sides.

That really needs to stop.

[kwame k]

Agreed on all points.

I really wish that for once, the republican party or someone could put someone that would stand on the basis of a lesser gov't and cutting spending across the board, but at the same are qualified, wasn't born with a silver spoon in their mouth and wern't morally in the wrong, (IE, in bed with the oil companies.)

Hell, even people I completely disagree with on policy, I wouldn't mind having a bigger influence in the gov't, like a kucinich would be great to see. I'm tired of seeing my gov't just being used as a giant auction for special interest groups on BOTH sides.

That really needs to stop.

I'm sick of it, too. I have no party loyalty, I'd vote for a Republican in a second if I thought they had a better plan....I've said it before, I'm a whore on the local level....I'll vote Republican, Democrat or Independent if that person, given all the information available, seems better qualified or has better ideas.

If you think about it, having the Tea Baggers will only accomplish taking votes away from the Republican base and the Right Wing of the Democrats. Liberals and moderates will not support the Tea Baggers, IMO. It also goes to show the Republicans are adrift and have no leadership or direction.

It's a sickness that has infected Washington for too long. An us against them mentality, the only people who ever suffer for their bickering are the American People.

[Nitro Express]

I don't care if she quits her elected post and uses her image and fame to make money. Fine. Go girl! Make some money. She's just not qualified to be president. I don't care if she becomes a television personality or whatever. At least she's milking it. She's that smart. She's going to get more perks and make more money than being a state governor.

[Nitro Express]

I agree... please pardon my outburst of civility in this forum. Every once in a while my psychosis gets the better of me.

Being a dad with 3 daughters & 2 sons... I'd just hate to see any of them become successful in public life and have to see some of the vile crap that people spew... deserved or not.

Carry on...

Yup. We've become real pigs in that regard. Politicians always were a target but society used to draw a line but now everything is fare game. There is no decency anymore. Even with Kennedy womanizing everyone knew it, but the press didn't cover that because it would be the sleazy thing to do. When Clinton got busted the Republicans made the news sound like Penthouse Forum. The Star report read like juicy porn. It was nuts.

[Nitro Express]

There are many women I'd like to get in the sack but do I want them running my country, hell no! I'm sure the ladies would agree about men, too. Just because she's hot.....stop looking at her tits and actually listen to what comes out of her mouth, fer Christ's sake!

What does she stand for? Drill baby drill, I'm sure she does, hubby's gotta make some money,....the point is, she stands for nothing other than furthering her career in politics.....maybe not even that now, more like celebrity.

If she just wants to be famous and make a ton of money, God bless her.....if she thinks for a second she's going to run this country, forget it.

When she was running with McCain the men around here would go nuts. She was on TV in a bar full of fishermen and I thought they all were going to pull their dicks out and start wanking. I thought it was strange but she is a MILF. She's good looking, is in great physical shape, fishes and hunts. I mean you had a MILF that connected to these men on a political and recreational level. The perfect woman and it horned them out big time.

[sadaist]

Yup. We've become real pigs in that regard. Politicians always were a target but society used to draw a line but now everything is fare game. There is no decency anymore. Even with Kennedy womanizing everyone knew it, but the press didn't cover that because it would be the sleazy thing to do. When Clinton got busted the Republicans made the news sound like Penthouse Forum. The Star report read like juicy porn. It was nuts.


Hell, just look how far we have dropped in decency since Clinton. The whole John Edwards thing is nothing more than news filler. Even news of the sex tape that the judge just ordered returned was met with a collective yawn. We've seen too many of these things to really be shocked anymore. The next celebrity socialite is going to have to film having sex with a hippopotamus to get any type of recognition. Even then, I think I saw a website already like that, so again....yawn.

[FORD]

I won't defend John Edwards, or Elliot Spitzer, for that matter, but I can't help thinking they were both set up. Stupid enough to fall for it, yes, and that's entirely on them.

But either one of them could have been Attorney General, and would have been an AG that scared the living fuck out of Wall Street criminals. I don't think they're all that afraid of Eric Holder. I think Wall Street took a "preemptive strike" and took out the guys who could have shut their shit down.

[FORD]

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[Terry]

Your verbal violence against women, simply because of politics, astounds me!

Since verbal assaults against certain people using vile descriptive terms is OK, is it OK if we call Obama a "lying Negro?" Or more descriptively (and recently), a "light skinned Negro with no Negro dialect?"

There is no difference in those two types of insults.

I think a lot of the attacks against Palin in the fall of 2008 WERE a bit under-the-belt in terms of general taste. Same applied toward many of the racial sentiments aimed at Obama.

However, none of that means she was, even in the most remote sense, close to being qualified for the presidency in the event something happened to McCain. That much I was able to gather from her own debate performances, interviews and speeches.

[Terry]

I won't defend John Edwards, or Elliot Spitzer, for that matter, but I can't help thinking they were both set up. Stupid enough to fall for it, yes, and that's entirely on them.

But either one of them could have been Attorney General, and would have been an AG that scared the living fuck out of Wall Street criminals. I don't think they're all that afraid of Eric Holder. I think Wall Street took a "preemptive strike" and took out the guys who could have shut their shit down.

Spitzer, maybe I'll buy.

Thing of it is, though, unless Obama was seen as a realistic threat to biz as usual on Wall Street, shutting down Spitzer and Edwards would just leave open the possibility that Obama would appoint someone else just as virulent to Wall Street interests.

With Edwards, the most troubling aspect of it all is how he continued to seek the prez nom, then the vp nom, and was even making an effort to lobby BO for the AG slot as late as April in exchange for endorsement. All the while knowing that the whole Hunter biz was lying there like a time bomb ticking away, knowing it would eventually explode in the press...what would that have done to the ticket had BO actually chosen him for vp and the story broke in October of 2008?

[kwame k]

However, none of that means she was, even in the most remote sense, close to being qualified for the presidency in the event something happened to McCain. That much I was able to gather from her own debate performances, interviews and speeches.

Isn't that the way you decide who to vote for.....by what they say, their background and what ideas they have. Palin came out 0 for 3 in those respects for me. Had nothing to do with her "hotness" factor or that she was a women.

If a women or anyone from any race/gender has better ideas, then that's who I'm voting for. Will all those ideas come to fruition? Nope. Never has for anyone in any political spectrum.

She had to write, "tax", "energy", and "lift American spirits" on her fucking hand to remember to make those key points. Jesus Christ! Those are things that should go without saying and if you're that dumb to not even know those are some of the biggest issues facing America, then you don't deserve to lead this country.

I love the spin they are trying to put on this now....that she did that as a jab at Obama's use of a teleprompter....give me a fucking break, she couldn't even remember Joe Biden's last name, so her staffers came up with that brilliant, "Can I call ya Joe". This is the future of the GOP, good luck....you're gonna need it.

[kwame k]

Hell, just look how far we have dropped in decency since Clinton. The whole John Edwards thing is nothing more than news filler. Even news of the sex tape that the judge just ordered returned was met with a collective yawn. We've seen too many of these things to really be shocked anymore. The next celebrity socialite is going to have to film having sex with a hippopotamus to get any type of recognition. Even then, I think I saw a website already like that, so again....yawn.

The gloves came off during Watergate, IMHO. The other thing that has changed is the 24 hour, 7 days a week news cycle. You have so much time to fill and you live and die by the rating points, that if there's no news you have to go out and create it. We seem to crave the next scandal and are fucking hypocrites when it comes to morality.

What's the divorce rate in this country? How many of those divorces had to do with infidelity? So what.....it happens every minute of every day in this country, it's called human nature. Most everyone of the so-called Moral Majority are not monks and we all have lapses in judgement from time to time. When did, who are you fucking, become the end all be all for elected officials?

The best leaders we have ever had in this country couldn't get elected by today's standards.

[LoungeMachine]

...or cunt?

I'd like people for once to argue against Palin's points instead of insulting her. Hell, I might even agree with them on an issue or two.

For once?

Hey, ya dumb cunt.....

WE DID for the entire time she was running for VEEP

:gulp:

You know, while you were over at FREEPER

[chefcraig]

The gloves came off during Watergate, IMHO. The other thing that has changed is the 24 hour, 7 days a week news cycle. You have so much time to fill and you live and die by the rating points, that if there's no news you have to go out and create it. We seem to crave the next scandal and are fucking hypocrites when it comes to morality.

What's the divorce rate in this country? How many of those divorces had to do with infidelity? So what.....it happens every minute of every day in this country, it's called human nature. Most everyone of the so-called Moral Majority are not monks and we all have lapses in judgement from time to time. When did, who are you fucking, become the end all be all for elected officials?

The best leaders we have ever had in this country couldn't get elected by today's standards.

Exactly. We are hypocrites, and the problem is rooted in the astoundingly immature attitude toward the subject of sex that we as Americans perpetuate. Think about it: A tv talk show host who also happens to be arguably the most sucessful business woman in U.S. history turns into a blubbering adolescent, perplexed and incapable of uttering the word vagina on her program, inanely substituting the playground word "va-jay-jay". The most well recognised sportsman on the planet is brought down by a scandal, not based upon marital infidelity but on the newly coined diagnosis of "sexual addiction".

What the fuck is taking place here? On one hand we have advertisers showing women in the most obvious of contexts, dressed to reflect the ultimate in desire or conquest. On the other we have females of all ages going to pathological extremes to meet these inferred "standards", and pretty much screwing up their dignity (as well as their sanity) in the process. Parents are taking kids who have not mastered riding a bike without training wheels and stuffing them into bikinis in order to win beauty contests, apparently failing to give any thought as to how this may be affecting the kid's own ideas about dignity, self respect and awareness.

As a people we are completely batshit on the subject of morality, yet use this same questionably absurd concept to define another person's character. At this point, is it really any wonder things have turned out the way they have?

[kwame k]

Not really, Craig. Remember when Dubya ran during the first election, he was saying things like he would restore the morality and dignity to the Presidency. Somehow inferring that Gore was pulling Monica's hair out of her face while she was giving Clinton a BJ. The powerful Religious Right ate that shit up. Carl Rove was brilliant in pandering to them and not making the mistake Poppy did in ignoring them.

The central theme to Dubya's campaign was restoring morality to The White House. What immoral thing did Gore get caught doing, other than allowing Tipper to abuse government power by starting the PMRC ;) The old, He who's without sin, seems to be a passage Dubya missed that day in Bible study. Once he was born again, so was his memory. Raging alcoholic, drug abuser and horrible husband were all in the past for him and should of never been brought up but that same standard couldn't be applied to Gore.

It's the old joke now......you can't tell a whore by how she dresses. "Hey baby how much?", dude, that's my daughter.

[jhale667]

I could give her something to remember.


Your herpes?

:gulp:

Beat me to it...:lmao:


OK, but the people STILL defending Palin at this point? Give it UP, or you're as stupid as the fringe fuckheads she appeals to. Did you not listen to her speeches or interviews during the campaign? Has she somehow improved since? NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST.

Yeah, if she's the Republican's best shot @ 2012, Obama's re-elected by a landslide - unless he punches a baby or something in the next coupla years. :biggrin:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Beat me to it...:lmao:


OK, but the people STILL defending Palin at this point? Give it UP, or you're as stupid as the fringe fuckheads she appeals to. Did you not listen to her speeches or interviews during the campaign? Has she somehow improved since? NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST.

Yeah, if she's the Republican's best shot @ 2012, Obama's re-elected by a landslide - unless he punches a baby or something in the next coupla years. :biggrin:

he could still beat up a preschool's worth of babies and have the edge over that broad.