Deadliest Catch On Discovery Channel

[ZahZoo]

Pretty sad to see such character full of life gone...

Gonna be tough watching the upcoming season knowing it ended with his passing.

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[ZahZoo]

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[kwame k]

Captain Phil was an incredible character, as are all the main guys on that show. Those guys put it all on the line in a job where it's not a matter of if anyone will die this season, it's how many. The stories of setting your own broken bones and pulling teeth, then going back to work.....these guys are some tough bastards.

Captain Sig and his brother Edgar are fucking hilarious but my all time favorite Captain is Johnathan, that dude is just plain crazy.

RIP Captain Phil.....at least you did what you loved in life and passed a legacy on to your children, not many people can even do one of those things in life, let alone two.

[Guitar Shark]

One of my favorites from an excellent show. Actually met him by chance one day when we were walking around Fisherman's Terminal. Super nice dude.

RIP, crab fart guy.

[Full Bug]

Phil was great, its not going to be the same without him, had a feeling something like this might happen after his blod clot issues, yet he still kept smoking and drinking Red Bulls like crazy.....

Kinda feel bad for Jake, he made a stupid decision, but his head cant be right these days....

Deadliest Catch's Jake Harris Jailed After DUI Arrest - Deadliest Catch : People.com (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20345801,00.html)

Deadliest Catch's Jake Harris Jailed After DUI Arrest

February 19, 2010

Deadliest Catch star Jake Harris was arrested on drunk driving and hit and run charges after he crashed his car late Thursday night.

Harris, 24, is currently in jail in Seattle after police say he got into an accident while intoxicated. He has been charged with hit and run, DUI and driving with a suspended license. Bail was set at $2,000.

"Mr. Harris was spotted driving a BMW 3 Series erratically Thursday evening by a citizen in Shoreline, Wa. We were able to locate his vehicle by aircraft, and he was pulled over in the Seattle area. The car was registered to his father," says Washington State Patrol spokesman Dan McDonald.

"He failed a field sobriety test and refused to take a toxicological test," McDonald added. "After further investigation, it was found that he was involved in a hit and run with another occupied vehicle earlier in the evening. He had rear-ended another car."

A deckhand on the fishing vessel Cornelia Marie, Jake has been struggling with grief following the death of his father, Captain Phil Harris, earlier this month.
Honoring His Dad
On Feb 13, Harris and his brother Josh attended a small gathering of friends and family at his father’s favorite Seattle-area casino to honor his life. "The old man, he had a lot of buddies," Harris told PEOPLE. "We didn't want to make it really sad. So we picked somewhere the old man, you know, loved to go, and hopefully we will tell stories about what a good life he led."

But the fisherman's grief was palpable.

"I'm going to be looking at that chair in a different way," he said of his father’s captain's seat. "We definitely talked about it, but I just didn't expect this to happen so soon."
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Also, this is a great read, Mike is a class guy....

Mike Rowe posts about Captain Phil
http://www.mikeroweworks.com/2010/02/captain-phil/

[Igosplut]

Captain Sig and his brother Edgar are fucking hilarious but my all time favorite Captain is Johnathan, that dude is just plain crazy.

I just finished this book today. If you like Johnathan Kwame, you really have to pick it up. From 2009, it's a great read, I finished it in two days. Loved it.

Time Bandit Book- PaperBack - Books (http://www.timebandit.tv/store/index.php/time-bandit-books/time-bandit-book-paperback.html)




RIP Captain Phil.....at least you did what you loved in life and passed a legacy on to your children, not many people can even do one of those things in life, let alone two.

Amen brother

[kwame k]

I just finished this book today. If you like Johnathan Kwame, you really have to pick it up. From 2009, it's a great read, I finished it in two days. Loved it.

Time Bandit Book- PaperBack - Books (http://www.timebandit.tv/store/index.php/time-bandit-books/time-bandit-book-paperback.html)



Amen brother

Those are the best books, the ones you just can't put down.......thanks for the link, Igo :beers8:

[Full Bug]

Thanx for mentioning the book Igo, gonna pick that one up for sure....

[fryingdutchman]

Gonna miss Captain Phil.

But you can only abuse your body for so long before it abuses you back.

Awesome character on an awesome show.

When does the new season start?

[ZahZoo]

April I think is when the next season kicks off.

[thome]

Anyone catch the season opener on tuesday..?

http://www.corneliamarie.com/

It is wierd for me not missing a episode since the day the show started 5 years ago, and the first show that was just a special about, worlds deadliest jobs .

When they play the marathons all day and I have a day off the channel doesn't change.

I think that that is how the Crab Fishermen Show idea came about.worlds deadliest jobs

It is cool seeing Captain Phil interacting and you can see the worry worn man written all over his face.

Better than any show on the tube.

[tojoro]

That is true, Thome. It's almost an insult to call Deadliest Catch a reality show, but it doesn't get much more real than that.
Like a tool, I missed the season opener. Didn't realize it until I saw Larry King the other night, where the Captains were featured guests.

[DavidLeeNatra]

I was his german voice...sad...

[ZahZoo]

It's a little difficult watching this new season knowing how it ends... especially for Phil's sons.

I got to admire Johnathan Hillstrand... wish he would have given Capt Keith the full ass whoopin he deserves!!

[VanHalenFan5150]

He was a badass guy, he will be missed.

[chefcraig]

The commercials leading up the season premiere were done in a tasteful, subdued and bittersweet manner. The understated nature of them really allows some comfort for what we all know is coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfRm-uzZYz0&feature=related

[Little Texan]

I'm surprised he lived as long as he did...living on a diet of Red Bulls and cigarettes.

[thome]

That is true, Thome. It's almost an insult to call Deadliest Catch a reality show, but it doesn't get much more real than that.
Like a tool, I missed the season opener. Didn't realize it until I saw Larry King the other night, where the Captains were featured guests.

I think alot of people have worked that hard and for 12 months out of the year, but it all changes on the pitching deck of a tiny little bobber in the middle of the berring sea...balsy dudes of the first magnitude...stress factors tripple.....I watch the show and think I could do that maybe if I was 22 and ...I watch some more and think, no way!!

It would be fun to me to try it for a season..if I was 22 again and focused and ..and ...and ...and...no fukk'n way..lol

I can believe that article where Phil sais his first day he quit, crawled up on the galley table, and was sick ,and the captain came and said, I knew you couldn't hack it and Phil got up.......... and here it is 30 years later.. he has that look of a challenge met.

[Igosplut]

Here's an excerpt from the book Time Bandit (http://www.timebandit.tv/store/index.php/time-bandit-books/time-bandit-book-paperback.html) written by Johnathan and Andy Hillstrand 2008 where Johnathan talks about riding with Phil Harris..

I took the Harley out with a crabbing buddy, Phil Harris, who rides with no windscreen and no helmet. He was going over ninety miles an hour down the highway, lighting one cigarette after another with a powerful butane lighter. That is what I call dedication.

[Full Bug]

I got to admire Johnathan Hillstrand... wish he would have given Capt Keith the full ass whoopin he deserves!!
Keith is damm lucky he didnt, Jonathan's a tough dude, in the book Igo mentioned he talks about how he put a guy in a coma in a fight (self defence), he also has served time in Mexican jails...

[Igosplut]

Keith is damm lucky he didnt, Jonathan's a tough dude, in the book Igo mentioned he talks about how he put a guy in a coma in a fight (self defence), he also has served time in Mexican jails...

One evening we rode my Harley to a local bar. We were minding our own business, enjoying a few drinks, when three guys parked themselve beside us at the bar and started hitting on her like I was not there. She brushed them off politely but she made it clear that she wanted them to leave her alone. I let her handle it.
These guys left the bar and came back more stoned or drunk than before. They would not leave her alone. She is beautiful, admittedly, but this went way beyond that sort of attraction. They were looking for a fight. With a few out-of-bounds remarks from them, she went quickly from uncomfortable to angry. The situation was heating up fast. They started to pump up their aggresion. My girlfriend gets hit on often. Most guys get the message and move on. These guys were not taking no for an answer.

I do not get mad easily. But when I do, I can fight to the death. I am focused and I can smite an army with the jawbone of an ass, as Ezekiel said, I think.

It came to that. I took one guy down on the floor and held my fist to his face. I said, "I don't want it to be this way". He said okay.
I turned around and he got up off the floor and punched me from behind. The whole bar began fighting. I tried to stay out of it. The three guys who bothered my girlfriend went outside. We turned back to face the bar. They came back in and the big sonofabitch grabbed her hair and slammed her forehead against the bar and said he'd find her, rape her, and kill her.
I told him, "It's time for you to leave".

The bartender was on the phone to the police when I was taking these guys outside. The fight was quick. I threw the would-be rapist/killer down on the ground and pulled his head back and kicked as hard as I could. Blood flew everywhere. He went limp. His two friends jumped me and hammered away; I have a head as hard as a helmet; You can pound the shit out of me for hours and you will not knock me out. I was wearing them out, and in a real fight that dose not take long. My girlfriend screamed and scratched and punched. She fought like a wildcat. She bought me a few seconds to run over and slam-kick the big sonofabitch in the face with my boot. The only thing that moved on him was the blood from his ears.

I'd say Keith was lucky there was cameras rolling....

[Little Texan]

Didn't Phil also have a problem with Keith last season or the season before last...setting out pots where Phil was fishing and they got them crossed up?

[Nitro Express]

When I lived in Oregon we used to get into debates over who were more psyco. Loggers or fishermen? It makes me laugh that they do reality shows on each now. I worked on a fishing boat up in Alaska to pay for college but I worked on a Japanese boat with a Japanese captain. His boat was dry and no booze allowed. Let me tell you, there were secret stashes of sake hidden all over that boat, you would go under deck looking for something and an in some hidden corner, sake.

[Nitro Express]

I had severe heath problems about two years ago and almost died. Red Bull was the only thing that kept me going. When you feel like shit and have no energy that stuff keeps you going. Drinking lot's of Red Bull sometimes is a sign a person has health problems and it's how they are jump starting themselves. I don't touch the stuff now.

[Nitro Express]

I guess it comes down to this. The world is desperate for authenticity. In business and in real life. In work and play. We crave it I think, because it’s in such short supply. Consequently, when we see it, we’ll wait for it. We’ll watch it on TV. We’ll stand in line for a chance to be near it. Fans, fishermen, CEO’s – we know authenticity when we see it, even if we’re not looking for it. And Phil Harris had it in spades.

Mike Rowe nailed it. I think one of the main reason this show is popular is it's REAL. The world has become almost a virtual reality of manmade bullshit. Especially if your job is working in an office that deals with man made games like taxes, regulations, inspections and such. We live in a world were money is literally made from nothing by an elite few who control the banking computers. A crab fishing operation is real, everything that goes on, goes on for real productive reasons and mistakes can be fatal.

[chefcraig]

It the promos run over the weekend on the Discovery Channel are to be believed, tonight's episode depicts Captain Phil's stroke and his departure from the Cornelia Marie to the hospital. To tell you the truth, I dunno if I'm even going to watch. This season has been a downer with Harris' death looming over it, and the title sequence being used this year showing the men in a grave yard, then quickly zeroing in on Phil has been hard to see each week. This episode begins the countdown to the inevitable, and I'm not so certain I wish to go through it all again. :(

[Igosplut]

It the promos run over the weekend on the Discovery Channel are to be believed, tonight's episode depicts Captain Phil's stroke and his departure from the Cornelia Marie to the hospital. To tell you the truth, I dunno if I'm even going to watch. This season has been a downer with Harris' death looming over it, and the title sequence being used this year showing the men in a grave yard, then quickly zeroing in on Phil has been hard to see each week. This episode begins the countdown to the inevitable, and I'm not so certain I wish to go through it all again. :(

Last week on the show "After the catch" (I didn't see it) Johnathan talked about Phil, and broke down, refusing to say anymore. I've tried to fine it on a download, but no such luck. I wonder how much the shit-fuck kid stealing his pain meds, and his confession strained Phil to the brink. I admit they've been playing it up but you can't help but think the people that worked on the show and worked with Phil probably feel worse than the people that only knew him on a screen....

[Jagermeister]

Last week on the show "After the catch" (I didn't see it) Johnathan talked about Phil, and broke down, refusing to say anymore. I've tried to fine it on a download, but no such luck. I wonder how much the shit-fuck kid stealing his pain meds, and his confession strained Phil to the brink. I admit they've been playing it up but you can't help but think the people that worked on the show and worked with Phil probably feel worse than the people that only knew him on a screen....


No SHit. Last week I was like wtf??? Dad I'm an addict!!!!! Tonight should be a great show!

[Guitar Shark]

I hate that frickin kid.

[Whiteflag]

As you all know I am a Captain so this one hits home.

RIP Captain Phil Harris.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

As you all know I am a Captain so this one hits home.

RIP Captain Phil Harris.

you WERE a captain, now you are a corpse.

[Whiteflag]

you WERE a captain, now you are a corpse.

But I ROSE!!!!

[chefcraig]

Well, I wound up watching after all. As usual, no spoilers here out of respect for you guys in later time zones...but damn, I'm speechless. Some quite compelling television.

[Full Bug]

Last week on the show "After the catch" (I didn't see it) Johnathan talked about Phil, and broke down, refusing to say anymore. I've tried to fine it on a download, but no such luck.
Yeah, I have been looking for that everywhere on line and cant find it either, strange how to torrents for the episodes appear almost instantly, but after the catch is nowhere to be found.....
I'm going to download tonites episode in the morning, for some retarded reason discovery channel airs the episodes a week behind here, cant say I'm looking forward to watching it, capt. Phil was my favourite.....

[PETE'S BROTHER]

it was sad to watch for sure. next episode is gonna be very sad. what a bunch of side stories and such, the producers couldn't make this up if they tried. very sad for the harris family.

[Jagermeister]

I watched the DVR last night. Great show.

I guess the Time Bandit boys have made enough money off endorsements to retire. LOL

[fryingdutchman]

I hate that frickin kid.

That goes double for me. Seeing the shit he put his dad through while we all know what was to come just made him even worse.

He's a little fuckin' drama queen who needs to be knocked on his ass.

[Igosplut]

I watched the DVR last night. Great show.

I guess the Time Bandit boys have made enough money off endorsements to retire. LOL

I would say that the show was a godsend for those guys. Have you seen their Geico commercial? People tend to forget that those two seasons are only two-three weeks long. Yes that could be a years pay for normal people, but fisherman are notoriously bad with money, and living on a higher adrenalin plain makes that just that much worse. I've known guys that did crab/tuna (years ago when it was big) and saved/bought land/houses, but they are the minority. Plus fishing (as a livelyhood) is fucking hard on your body, mostly your back from years of fighting the motion of the boat. Those guys HAVE to be in the wheelhouse now, they just can't physically do it anymore.

None of those guys kids are able to captain any of those boats. They see it as the glory of TV, and none of them have worked hard enough to get to their OWN familys captain seats. never mind being a captain on somebody else's.......

[Jagermeister]

'Deadliest Catch': Discovery boss talks about future of Cornelia Marie
by Lynette Rice
Categories: Cable, News, Reality TV
Image Credit: Blair Bunting/Getty ImagesEW talked with Discovery Channel President and General Manager Clark Bunting about Capt. Phil Harris’ final episodes of Deadliest Catch, and what’s next for the extraordinary reality show about crab fisherman.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Talk about your decision to focus the final six episodes on the passing Capt. Phil Harris.
CLARK BUNTING: We really struggled, there’s no question. I think this is one of the harder stories in our history. We’ve gone through, unfortunately, some tragedy before. We did the Steve Irwin special, but it was a two-hour special after Steve passed. The storyline for Deadliest Catch is about the full arc of Phil’s life. It’s the full arc of going through not just what happened to Phil and the boys, but also the rest of the fleet, the captains sharing their experiences, and them becoming aware of the tragedy that happened. So, we think we’ve covered the full arc without going over the edge.

Did you ever expect this show to get so heavy?
Years ago, I looked at a special that (Deadliest Catch executive producer) Thom Beers had created that was really the forerunner for Deadliest Catch, and I sat there thinking, “Are you kidding me? We’re gonna do a show about crustaceans?” And then he showed me a segment about what happens on those boats, how rough the seas are. He brought us in a bunch of fresh crab and we ate crab while we watched the segment. I think it was, arguably, one of the best pitches I’ve ever seen in my 25 years and it immediately erased in my mind any doubt that this couldn’t be an amazing, heartfelt, exciting story that was, for me at least, the beginning. This is full circle. This is the full story of the captains. This is the full story of the sons. In the end, this is a generational story.

Have you been overwhelmed by the response to Capt. Harris’ death?
Oh my gosh — the number of pages of the posts we had on the blogs. I mean, literally, it was melting the servers. It’s just one of those things that if somebody told me about, I wouldn’t believe. I would go through them night after night to see what these posts were saying, and it was extraordinarily heartfelt. The sheer volume and the sympathy and emotion was unlike anything I’ve ever seen.

Is that reflective of the show’s ratings this season?
No. Honestly, I think the outpouring was disproportionate to the ratings. It’s TV. Some people watch or people sample. People see a show. But the emotion and the number of folks who wrote in are disproportionate to the number of people who watch the show. Obviously, there were a lot of fans, but above and beyond that, it was a sense of loss. I think, unfortunately, that sense of loss was something we all experience. The show has continued to do extremely well for us. It is our highest rated show on the air. They’ve always had a very loyal audience and that audience comes back week after week. Now, as you begin to get into these next episodes, my expectation is that the ratings will go up high.

Will there be a seventh season?
We will continue next year. And what that story looks like…I think we just want to get this one put to bed and give everybody a little bit of a break to decide where to go next year.

Will the show lighten up?
I think we have to. I think with any loss, there’s a process of healing. I think that’s part of what folks will naturally experience. And then, the question is, where does the story lead you from there? It’s like any great docu-soap. Part of the reason I think that people are drawn into this is that it’s genuine, it’s authentic, and the story has yet to play out. We don’t know how the boys are going to respond. We don’t know what the captains will do. We don’t know who will be the owner of the Cornelia Marie. There aren’t a bunch of writers sitting around and saying, “Okay, what are we going to do next year?” This is real. I think that’s what makes it as compelling.

[Guitar Shark]

Jesus, 6 weeks devoted to Captain Phil's death? I liked him as much as the next guy, but come on.

[Jagermeister]

Jesus, 6 weeks devoted to Captain Phil's death? I liked him as much as the next guy, but come on.

I think it's more of a Catch thread now really.

[chefcraig]

Jesus, 6 weeks devoted to Captain Phil's death? I liked him as much as the next guy, but come on.

More than that actually. The way this season has been structured, the entire run of episodes has been dedicated to the guy by the way the show's opening has been changed to reflect it. Everything was building to this point, and the final six episodes will display how Phil's death impacted the entire community. In addition to the issues surrounding Harris and the Cornelia Marie, there is some subtext, mainly the disappearance of Jake Anderson's father and who will take over the Time Bandit.

[Guitar Shark]

I think it's more of a Catch thread now really.

I think you misunderstood me. I was not referring to this thread, I was referring to this part of the story you posted:


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Talk about your decision to focus the final six episodes on the passing Capt. Phil Harris.

[Guitar Shark]

More than that actually. The way this season has been structured, the entire run of episodes has been dedicated to the guy by the way the show's opening has been changed to reflect it. Everything was building to this point, and the final six episodes will display how Phil's death impacted the entire community. In addition to the issues surrounding Harris and the Cornelia Marie, there is some subtext, mainly the disappearance of Jake Anderson's father and who will take over the Time Bandit.

I agree Chef, and I love the show and watch every week - I just think that devoting the final 6 episodes to Captain Phil is milking it just a bit too much.

[chefcraig]

I agree Chef, and I love the show and watch every week - I just think that devoting the final 6 episodes to Captain Phil is milking it just a bit too much.

I'm with ya there. It does seem quite a bit much, and this gets compounded by those "After The Catch" shows. The producers really might be burning out the show and the audience with this approach, which when you think about it is pretty much what the Discovery Channel has done with most of it's other previously successful shows. It's doubtful anyone on the planet wants to hear from the Teutul Family at this point, let alone cared when American Chopper went off the air.

[GAR]

I'm an addict, but I love you Dad you know that. Just gimmee yer pills..

[Northern Girl]

I've never watched Deadliest Snatch. What's it about - hookers with AIDS? :umm:

[Jagermeister]

I trust everyone caught last nights show?

Another great episode.

[Igosplut]

I hope the dopey fucking kid realizes he kicked his old man over the edge. Fucker gets to live with that the rest of his life.....

[chefcraig]

Yeah, I watched it as well as it was quite compelling. But then it was followed by After The Catch, which seemed to focus on that nitwit from the Wizard boat Keith and his equally imbecilic brother ("Yeah, let's recycle the bait, that oughta work..."). Talk about taking the air out of the room.

[Igosplut]

My Girlfriend downloaded all the "after the catches" and I watched them from that. I agree, I have no desire to watch Keith the whiner. I had forgotten that the Harris kid got busted for an OUI in February also....

[Guitar Shark]

Yeah, I watched it as well as it was quite compelling. But then it was followed by After The Catch, which seemed to focus on that nitwit from the Wizard boat Keith and his equally imbecilic brother ("Yeah, let's recycle the bait, that oughta work..."). Talk about taking the air out of the room.

It seems like the show has cut back on the amount of time spent with the Wizard. It's pretty obvious that the rest of the fleet dislikes Keith. He always seems to be in the lead on the crab numbers - maybe there is a connection. I've seen on more than one occasion the other skippers complain that Keith sets too close to their gear, etc. Maybe the producers don't like him that much either.

[Igosplut]

It seems like the show has cut back on the amount of time spent with the Wizard. It's pretty obvious that the rest of the fleet dislikes Keith. He always seems to be in the lead on the crab numbers - maybe there is a connection. I've seen on more than one occasion the other skippers complain that Keith sets too close to their gear, etc. Maybe the producers don't like him that much either.

He set on top of Phil's gear last year, and badmouthing the Hillstrands boat to their crew wasn't the brightest thing either. The boat the Maverick evaporated into thin air also. With Phil gone, and the Hillstrands getting out they're loosing the interesting characters of the show. Entertaining watching Wild bill yank drunken crew members outta their bunks but he's pretty dry, interest-wise..

[Jagermeister]

:(

Tough show last night.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i was pretty hammered and don't remember alot of it, that fuckin' addict breakin' the ice rule was irritating.

[Jagermeister]

i was pretty hammered and don't remember alot of it, that fuckin' addict breakin' the ice rule was irritating.

It was kinda tough seeing Phil with half his head missing. I can't believe they filmed that shit.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

and the docs sayin' that most patients with his situation die, yet keepin' the kids upbeat, scary knowin' what's gonna happen.

[Jagermeister]

and the docs sayin' that most patients with his situation die, yet keepin' the kids upbeat, scary knowin' what's gonna happen.

Yeah no shit.

[chefcraig]

Yeah, I'll need to catch a rerun because a great deal of the show was hard to take. The end with the two brothers going at it in particular, listening to that wasted little self pitying piece of shit whining and making everything about himself was unwatchable. Even more discombobulating was the After The Catch episode that followed. It was all over the fucking road, ranging from musing on Phil's life by bringing in an obviously uncomfortable Josh Harris and deckhand Freddie Maughtai (but thankfully not Jake Harris), then inexplicably introducing Wild Bill Wichrowski and finally talking (surprisingly briefly) about the gulf oil spill. More than anything, this seemingly patched-together show added to the unsettling nature of the program that preceded it.

Next week is a two-hour episode devoted to Harris. If the episodes leading up to this have seemed grim, I can barely imagine how traumatic and hard to watch this "special" will turn out.

[thome]

I guess it was two seasons ago that Phill had that first embolism,

Then last summer towards the end I saw Phil on Martha Stewart..? I cannot remember..?

He was wearing a chefs coat, looked trimmer and good as hell, he was preparing some crab or shrimp for the show host... and talking about the show coming the next season. I cannot find it on tube it is probably owned by whatever show he was on..?

He was most of the show to me but there are some good guys and the show may continue on alright.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

tears were shed.:(

[thome]

How cool would it have been to be down at some such bike rally and have a beer with Phil.

Those Bird Houses he built (I had read about them at the Deadliest catch forum) I thought cool nice off season craft to keep you busy..Did you see those things..!! Like 500 parts porch porch swing interior fireplace with little crafted fireplace logs JEEZ!! logs WTF!!!

I bet they had little hobby store motor, ceiling fans..LOL!!

I figured they were Bill W Rehab popsicle stick bird houses.

Cool Cat. RIP

[Guitar Shark]

Next week is a two-hour episode devoted to Harris. If the episodes leading up to this have seemed grim, I can barely imagine how traumatic and hard to watch this "special" will turn out.

I was expecting a 2-hour episode too, but it was only 1 yesterday. I think maybe next week is the 2-hour episode.

The more I learn about him, the more I like that Johnathan Hilstrand guy. Full of life, energy and humor, but also wears his emotions on his sleeve.

[chefcraig]

I was expecting a 2-hour episode too, but it was only 1 yesterday. I think maybe next week is the 2-hour episode.

The more I learn about him, the more I like that Johnathan Hilstrand guy. Full of life, energy and humor, but also wears his emotions on his sleeve.

I was surprised as well, considering Discovery had promoted the episode as Phil's last, and specifically stated it was to run two hours. Even so, the final five minutes of the show were some of the most urgent film making ever offered on a tv series, with the storm impacting the fleet being juxtaposed against Harris' final moments. It was simply stunning, and left me speechless. I literally sat there staring at the screen well after the credits had run, and it did not even register with me that After The Catch was well under way when I snapped out of the stupor. I immediately wanted to post what I'd seen, but that would not have been right for people in other time zones, and regardless, even now words fail me.

One can only imagine what it must be like for those close to the man, who have been forced to relive this drama again and again since February. And I agree, Johnathan Hilstrand's support for Harris and his sons was nothing short of heroic. His harsh words of advice said exactly what was needed, and we all should be worthy of having a fellow like him as a friend.

[Guitar Shark]

I agree that those last five minutes were excellent, and difficult to watch. I actually met Phil Harris by chance one day a couple of years ago at Fisherman's Terminal here in Seattle. My wife and I went down there on a whim to see if we could see some of the Deadliest Catch crab boats (we did - we saw the Northwestern and the Wizard, and one or two boats from the first couple of seasons that I can't remember now), and there was some local radio promotion that day and a few of the crab boat regulars were there. I am still amazed at how it sometimes feels like we know these people personally when we really do not know them at all. All I did was shake his hand, but I still got the feeling that he was a guy with a big heart, just like he is portrayed on the show.

[Igosplut]

The more I learn about him, the more I like that Johnathan Hilstrand guy. Full of life, energy and humor, but also wears his emotions on his sleeve.

For you and Chefcraig..

I put this on the first page, but the links dead for some reason. If you didn't see it the first time, the Hillstrand brothers wrote a book. Great read, about 230 pages. I read it in two sittings, you'll not want to put it down.

Time Bandit: Two Brothers, the Bering Sea, and One of the World's Deadliest Jobs (http://www.tower.com/time-bandit-two-brothers-bering-sea-one-worlds-andy-hillstrand-paperback/wapi/112518229)

In their own words telling about growing up to present day. I highly recommend it...

[Guitar Shark]

Thanks Igo, I will definitely check that out. :baaa:

[chefcraig]

Yep, it's on order for us as well as of 5 minutes ago. :rockit2:

[Jagermeister]

Last night was a tuff show. :(

It contained a message for Van Halen. When the camera man came on After the Catch he said Phill really wanted him to film the hospital stuff. The guy said Phil said come on man you have to have a beginning a middle and an end.Hmmm.

[Igosplut]

Your welcome guys, You'll love it.


I have a download of the show that I'll watch tonight...

[sadaist]

Last night was a tuff show. :(

.



Fuckin A it was. Seeing Phil there with his skull missing and malformed, while his punk ass kids were trying to see who was the toughest. Never liked the kids. Always loved Phil. Just a sad poor soul who wanted his lucky chain :( Enough to make you tear up. I am glad that it appeared he had some great closing words with his sons, rather than them holding on to the final arguments they had with him.

Rough show indeed.

I find myself wondering how I get so emotionally attached to people I have never met. We all do it with our rock stars (Dave). It really is an odd phenomena.

[chefcraig]

Captain Phil Harris' final 'Deadliest Catch' episode sets records

Captain Phil Harris died on Tuesday night's episode of "Deadliest Catch" and 8.5 million people tuned in to see how Discovery and the show's producers handled this delicate matter.

That's not just a record audience for the series, but it also made the episode the third-most-watched telecast in Discovery history -- behind "Raising the Mammoth" and "Walking With Dinosaurs," which both aired in 2000.

I know I'm still thinking about Josh Harris' sad call to his brother, Jake, in rehab to let him know their father had passed away. That the Cornelia Marie captain died Feb. 9 seemed an especially cruel turn of fate, since it appeared his health was improving. Viewers had just seen the beautiful goodbye scene with Josh and his father: Captain Phil kissed his hand and put it to his son's face, and then Josh leaned down and kissed his father's forehead.

Josh Harris wasn't expecting that to be their final goodbye, but it was. And it was the viewers' final goodbye too. After Josh left, the cameras showed Captain Harris staring out the window at a beautiful view of Anchorage, and that was it.

Whatever new health crisis erupted, viewers didn't see it. We just saw Josh Harris reacting to the news of it, returning to the hospital, praying for his father, and then his phone call to Jake.

It was incredibly moving and, considering that this had never happened on a reality show before, executive producer Thom Beers should be commended for his respectful treatment of the Harris family and his viewers.

Discovery will air a two-hour tribute to the famous fisherman next Tuesday at 9 p.m.

You can watch the last seven minutes of Tuesday night's episode, "Redemption Day" below:


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/07/captain-phil-harris-final-deadliest-catch-episode-sets-records.html

(A bit of warning, this is hard to take, even though as stated before this is some remarkable footage, filmed in a masterful way. There is a compelling cross fade, which shows a soaked, freezing deckhand assuming a pose that dissolves into that of a statue in front of Phil's hospital in Providence. The use of Johnny Cash's cover of the Cheryl Crow tune "Redemption Day" only drives home the sense of loss, as does the unforgettable final shot of a ship disappearing at sea.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKIGdgjIPNc&feature=player_embedded#!

[chefcraig]

'Deadliest Catch': Josh Harris shares memories of dad, Capt. Phil Harris

In "Redemption Day," the Tuesday, July 13, episode of Discovery Channel's "Deadliest Catch," viewers hear the sad news of the death of 53-year-old F/V Cornelia Marie Capt. Phil Harris, an event that actually took place in early February.

Fans saw Harris suffer a stroke in port after coming in from opilio-crab fishing in Alaska's Bering Sea. They saw him flown to a hospital in Anchorage, where deckhand sons Josh and Jake alternated between tending to their father and battling each other, while close family friend and fellow Capt. Johnathan Hillstrand has dealt with his own emotions while trying to keep the peace between the siblings.

Sitting together over dual plates of roasted lobster and French fries before heading off to tape an appearance on NBC's "The Tonight Show," Josh Harris and Hillstrand recall those long days in the hospital.

"I tell you right now," Harris says. "I would not have held together [without Hillstrand]. I would not have held together if not for this guy."

Luckily for the Harris sons (FYI, since many have wondered, Harris says their mother comes from Okinawa), Hillstrand had, only hours earlier, left his family boat, the F/V Time Bandit, in the hands of his brother, Capt. Andy Hillstrand, and decided to go off for some warm-water fishing.

"My vacation didn't turn out how I planned at all," he says.

"If it wasn't for John being there," says Harris, "I would have lost it. I can't tell you how many nights I didn't know what to do. I was so scared and confused, everything. I go to John. John is my best friend and my brother, family member, dad. That's why, when I got into a fight with Jake, that's who I'd go to."

Not long before Phil Harris went to the hospital, he caught younger son Jake stealing the pain medication he took for his back. Jake Harris then confessed that he was a drug addict.

Following his father's death but long before this episode aired, fans knew something was wrong, when Jake Harris was arrested for DUI in his home state of Washington.

Asked how he's doing now, Josh Harris says, "Jake is doing a lot better. He hit the wall, as we all saw on the news, and now he's doing really good. We've got a lot of responsibility that we've stepped into.

"He made a promise to my dad -- we both did -- so we've had to grow up a lot. Now, responsibility's kicking into play, and we're going to take this and run with it, do what my dad would have wanted us to do."

As happens with many deaths, Josh Harris is dealing with issues related to his father's estate, which includes several companies, ranging from coffee to merchandising, along with the F/V Cornelia Marie herself.

"We're doing what we can," Harris says. "My dad's estate, we've got a lot of s*** to clean up there, because people are coming out of the woodwork, saying they're heirs."

It's Harris' goal to get the boat back in the water, starting with raising the approximately $2 million needed to buy the boat outright from his father's partner, Cornelia Marie Devlin.

"We've got to wait for a couple things with the estate to clear," Harris says, "so [the boat] can be taken out of the estate. That's what pissed me off about the blogs and s***, people saying I'm flying around the world, spending all my dad's money and having a good time, just getting f***ed up, and that's not the case. It p***es me off.

"Let me make a point of saying, that's not the case. I'm doing everything I can. I've got companies to run, now that my dad's gone."

After all, "Deadliest Catch" may be a TV show, but the industry it portrays is real, and if the Cornelia Marie remains in drydock, many people are going to be hurt.

"I gotta do what's right," Harris says. "The bottom line is, we've got families, kids, that are involved. Everybody's looking to me, 'Do we have a job? Is the boat going fishing?' This is real life. If they don't have a job, it's not like they can go get one right now. All the boats are full. Their families will not eat; they will lose their homes.

"That's the thing -- I've got to step up. My brother, he's just getting back to himself. I really think now he's got to step up, be a man and really think. He's going to nail it. He really needs to. He doesn't have a choice. Dad's not there."

"All you can do is love your brother, man," says Hillstrand. "You can't make him do anything."

"But he's got the mentality now," Haris says, "I think and hope. We always used to be able to talk to our dad, 'Help us out. We're in trouble.' Whenever we had a question, 'Dad, what do we do? What would you do?' Now, we just got each other and the Hillstrands."

"I'd like to tell you something," Hillstrand says to Harris. "If they don't get the boat back together, then we have a spot for you. No matter what happens, we have a spot for you."

"I appreciate that," says Harris.

Harris relates a story about how his father would call in the wee hours of the morning, suggesting the two head out for a ride -- then reveal he was already in Josh Harris' driveway, ready to go.

"He was a joker like that," Harris says, "and people loved him. He was the dog at the pound that you saw, and you knew that he was bad news, and you took him home anyway.

"That was my dad, and that's the only way I can explain it that makes any sense to me. People loved and respected him because of that, because he was real. They knew that was harmless."

The conversation turns to lighter subjects at one point, and the MTV reality hit "Jersey Shore" comes up, prompting Harris to say, "What's up with the 'Jersey Shore' clowns? The Situation? That f***ing guy. He's a trip. I want to put those guys on a boat for three days."

But inevitably talk returns to the strange experience for Harris and Hillstrand of watching one of the most dramatic events of their personal lives played out for millions of TV viewers.

"I did a lot of leaking," says Hillstrand.

"The gift is also a curse," says Harris. "You take something that was so important in your last moments, always wondering if you said the right things, if you got everything out. I remember a lot of it, but now that I'm seeing it, as hard as it is to watch it, it's comforting to know that I did everything I could.

"My biggest regret is he never gets to see his grandchildren on this Earth. Maybe there is a heaven, maybe there is a hell. Hopefully we'll all go to a good place..."

"I believe there is," Hillstrand says.

"I want to believe that as much as possible," says Harris. "My dad was my best friend; he was my hero."

"He'd like to pinch you," Hillstrand says, reaching over to give Harris a pinch on the left bicep, "right here, right now."

"I know," says Harris, rubbing his arm. "That was a good one. You got me good. That was a light pinch, but it hurts. My dad used to get me all the time. He'd call them horse bites."

"He'd want me to do that to you," says Hillstrand, "If you say there's no heaven or hell."

"Deadliest Catch: Redemption Day" airs at 9 p.m. ET, followed by "The Good Captain Phil," the season finale episode of the companion roundtable show, "After the Catch." Shot this season in New Orleans, it includes footage of a traditional jazz funeral service held for the captain.

Two episodes air July 20, a regular installment that follows news of Harris' fate through the fleet, and a special tribute to the Captain featuring memorable moments and footage of his public memorial in Seattle, and of fan remembrances from the second annual CatchCon convention, also in Seattle.

The season finale airs on July 27, as the opilio crab season comes to an end.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/07/deadliest-catch-josh-harris-shares-memories-of-dad-capt-phil-harris.html

[Guitar Shark]

Good stuff. Thanks for posting that, craig.

[Full Bug]

Anyone watch Tuesdays episode? Man parts of that were tough to watch, like when the Northwestern pulled out past Phil's boat, or when Keith rang the bell and dropped the pot full of crab into the sea so Phil would always have a full pot to come back to....
Andy and his crew setting off the fireworks was a nice touch too, my hats off to Discovery channel for the classy way they have shown this whole thing, a shame almost every other reality tv show wouldnt learn a thing or two from this show, thats the way its done.....The tribute show to Phil was awesome as well....

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i watched it tonite. jeez, tear jerker fo sho.

[chefcraig]

I couldn't get through it, nor the tribute to Phil's life. It's not that I was emotionally overwhelmed by it all, it's just that the way Discovery has overdone the thing has left me worn out and somewhat sickened from it. I'm sorry, a full season of mourning the man and tuning into it each week has been way too much like an exercise in masochism, if not outright exploitation. Yes, I feel absolutely awful about Phil's final days and the impact it has had upon his family and friends. The truth is, I did not not need a television network cramming it down my throat week after week, just so it could make commercials lauding how it has the highest rated show on Tuesdays.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i told some friends that about great ratings over a horrible situation, and was a bit upset about it. his portrait on the gas tank was very good and cemented that part of his life he enjoyed so much when off the boat.

[Nitro Express]

I couldn't get through it, nor the tribute to Phil's life. It's not that I was emotionally overwhelmed by it all, it's just that the way Discovery has overdone the thing has left me worn out and somewhat sickened from it. I'm sorry, a full season of mourning the man and tuning into it each week has been way too much like an exercise in masochism, if not outright exploitation. Yes, I feel absolutely awful about Phil's final days and the impact it has had upon his family and friends. The truth is, I did not not need a television network cramming it down my throat week after week, just so it could make commercials lauding how it has the highest rated show on Tuesdays.

I was the one who had to deal with my brother's estate after he died and the experience made me hate the state of California, morticians, and financial institutions. Everyone tells you they are sorry but they really aren't and if money is involved that's all they care about and you have to fight for every dime. Morticians take advantage of the timing and skillfully try to sell you everything. The politicians use every angle they can to rob the family of any inheritance.

I wonder how Captain Phil's family really feel about the situation? Is this the network using their contract to strong arm the family into participating? Most families want their privacy in such matters. Doing a tribute to the man is fine but profiteering on Phil's death is just wrong and tasteless.

[fryingdutchman]

http://seat42f.com/images/stories/tvshows/DeadliestCatch/CAP-SIG-Dancing-With-The-Stars-1.jpg

OK...I know there's already a "Catch"-themed thread on here about the death of Captain Phil Harris. So if a Mod wants to merge 'em, feel free.

But I think this goes to a new topic about the same show. Does anybody think that the show is about to jump the shark with some of the boys "going Hollywood?"

I expressed a fear about this possibility in another thread about how fame ruined the edge of "American Chopper", and hoped the same thing wouldn't happen to "Catch."

But now, it looks like Capt. Sig Hansen may be a contestant on "Dancing With The Stars." Read on...

From www.film.com~

Hard as it is to imagine a Deadliest Catch captain doing anything other than washing the smell of crab out of his beard and cursing a whole lot, the men can't be blamed for seeking to exploit their increasing fame in less strenuous ways.

There have been vague rumors connecting Northwestern captain Sig Hansen with Dancing With the Stars for some time now, and several months ago he acknowledged them by saying that sure, he's a fan of the show and would love to do it if asked (and if it didn't conflict with crab season). Hansen didn't regard these remarks as him campaigning, but a bandwagon was soon started for him anyway: Jay Leno gave the idea some more promotion, and now there's an active Facebook community where over 20,000 people have expressed their support for seeing Sig do the crab with Karina Smirnoff.

Hansen would not be available for a fall season of DWtS, as Northwestern is busy with king crab at that time, but the spring DWtS season typically gets under way in mid-March. Even factoring in several weeks for rehearsal, Hansen could probably wrap up the Opilio crab season in time to put on a tux (or...sequins?).

While DWtS sometimes appears reluctant to cast celebs who seem too eager to be on, naming Hansen would be in keeping with the show's strategy of selecting a few stars who come from subcultures that otherwise might not be into the quickstep, such as football or wrestling. As long as there's no conflict with Discovery (Deadliest Catch typically airs on Tuesdays at 9 p.m., the same time as the DWtS results show), this seems like a no-brainer of an idea. Sig can even ensure fresh seafood for the catering table.

[kwame k]

Oh, for the love of Christ :pullinghair:

Just lost all respect for Capt. Sig!

[Jagermeister]

Sig ain't doin that shit! No fuckin way!

He would last about 5 minutes with out a smoke. LOL!

[bueno bob]

If Captain Sig can dance with the stars, can Gar sleep with the fishes?

[Dan]

The Sheep Pen Mob Will Take Care Of That.:D

[GAR]

LOOK: Sig's been drinking with the Mexicans again..

[sadaist]

I don't care for Capt Sig. He just acts like a know-it-all and an asshole. And he seemed to play up the sad or tore-up emotions for the camera. Like when the one kid found out his sister passed away, Sig seemed really fake about his sadness. The guy just seems lame.

As far as going Hollywood. Yes it will ruin the show. But I don't blame anyone for grabbing the big bucks while they can. Dancing in So CA is a lot easier way to make cash than sub zero temps catching crab with 2 hours of sleep. Plus he can play grab ass with his dancing partner. Them girls is smoking hot.

[fryingdutchman]

LOOK: Sig's been drinking with the Mexicans again..

I thought I was on your "ignore" list, GAyR?

Get the fuck out of my thread.

[Nitro Express]

My dad is Norwegian and captain Sig reminds me of my cousin. Looks and personality. I had to grow up around that ego and temper thing so it's so familiar. LOL!

[Nitro Express]

My childhood was basically saying "yes sir" and knowing your place and the adults were more than happy to point out they were the boss and we were on their ship as deckhands basically. It must be a Norwegian thing.

[fryingdutchman]

My dad is Norwegian and captain Sig reminds me of my cousin. Looks and personality. I had to grow up around that ego and temper thing so it's so familiar. LOL!

Like Sig and Edgar always say...

"There's the right way, the wrong way, and the NORWEGIAN way."

Sounds like you experienced that shit first hand!

[fryingdutchman]

Do you think that when they get an erection they refer to it as "Norwegian Wood?"

[chefcraig]

Discovery sues Deadliest Catch duo for $3 million

By Eriq Gardner Mon Sep 20, 11:50 PM PDT

Most reality TV producers follow a simple format: Capture what happens, and then have cast-members fill in story gaps with voice-overs and cutaways. But what to do when reality TV stars jump ship before sitting down for the required interviews?

Sue them, of course.

Discovery is seeking $3 million in damages after two stars of "Deadliest Catch," Jonathan and Andy Hillstrand, allegedly failed to live up to an agreement to complete a spin-off project.

According to the breach-of-contract lawsuit, filed last week in Maryland Circuit Court, the Hillstrands were to film a one-time special called "Hillstranded." The duo was coming off five seasons of "Deadliest Catch," one of the most popular programs on any Discovery-affiliated network. The special was to document the team's various adventures in Alaska; work unrelated to their jobs as crab fisherman. Two weeks of principal photography was shot in June, but there was still work to do.

"The Hillstrand Defendants determined that they would reverse course, dishonor their promises, and refuse to render the services necessary to complete 'Hillstranded,'" reads the complaint.

At the end of August, Discovery allegedly called the brothers to confirm a date, time and location for them to sit for interviews. The complaint says the only response was an e-mail from a lawyer for the brothers informing producers that they shouldn't attempt any further contact with them.

Discovery argues that the failure by Hillstrands to complete work has caused production on the show to remain uncompleted. The company says that the show would have earned significant ratings and that it has suffered substantial losses as a result.

The Hillstrands' lawyer likened the lawsuit to extortion, and said it might even force his clients to sell their boats and fire their crews. He also took aim at the network's well-paid top executive.

"The recent actions of Discovery Communications are an astonishing and shameful instance of arrogance and greed run amok," attorney Jeff Cohen said in a statement.

"While CEO David Zaslav reaps a $33.9 million bonanza in a single day in January 2010, his company attempts to bankrupt hardworking fishermen. Three million dollars is exponentially greater than any compensation ever paid to the 'Deadliest Catch' captains, and yet this is the figure Discovery is trying to extort from these men.

"Isn't there enough unemployment in America without forcing hard-working sea captains to declare bankruptcy, sell their boats and fire their crews?," he asked.

He also referenced the death earlier this year of Captain Phil Harris, which was chronicled by the show.

"Discovery is a multi-billion dollar corporation making hundreds of millions of dollars from broadcasting the dangerous exploits of our clients. In light of all the tragedy witnessed by Captain Sig (Hansen), Capt. John and Capt. Andy this year, why can't Discovery let these working men move on with their lives?"


YAHOO TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/article/tv-news.en.reuters.com/tv-news.en.reuters.com-20100921-us_discovery)

[Guitar Shark]

Someone at the Discovery Channel needs to look at the big picture. This is a PR disaster.

[chefcraig]

It really is absurd. The channel spends the best part of a season portraying Jon Hillstrand as one of the most noble fellows in the recorded history of reality television, then turns around and attempts to tarnish the very same guy in a senseless act of retribution. If anything, the lawsuit makes the Hillstrands appear to be more sympathetic characters. The more cynical amongst us might wonder if this isn't part of the network's plan in the first place.

[ZahZoo]

PR nightmare indeed... coming off the Capt Phil saga... this could sink Discovery quicker than artic storm.

[fryingdutchman]

And it gets worse...

Deadliest Catch Captains, Including Sig, Quit the Show Over Lawsuit

Jonathan and Andy Hillstrand have bigger fish to fry now.

The Deadliest Catch stars and captains of the deep-sea power scow Time Bandit, announced Tuesday (9/28) that they're leaving the hit series after being sued for breach-of-contract by the Discovery Channel.

And they're taking fan favorite Sig Hansen, captain of the Northwestern, along with them.

"We have been through a lot over the past year and unfortunately given the current situation with Discovery we are unable to continue participating in Deadliest Catch," the three crab fishermen said in a joint written statement, first obtained by the Hollywood Reporter.

"It has been a fantastic ride, and we wish the best to all of the amazing and supportive Catch fans we have met over the years."

In response to the lawsuit, Hansen said, "I want people to know the captains stand together, and me and my brothers support them 100 percent."

Discovery says, meanwhile, that its announcement on the status of all three captains is forthcoming.

The network sued the Hillstrand brothers for $3 million, claiming they failed to come through on their promise to shoot a spin-off special, Hillstranded. Cameras rolled during business hours, but Discovery says the crab catchers didn't make time to record voiceovers and otherwise take part in what was needed to round out the production.

Production on season seven of Deadliest Catch is scheduled to start early next month, the beginning of crab season.

While there was obviously a red sky at morning situation as far as the Hillstrands were concerned, Hansen's departure is more of a surprise, despite his statement of solidarity.

The show's sixth season was memorably rocked by the death of Cornelia Marie Capt. Phil Harris.

Read more: http://comcast.eonline.com/uberblog/detail.jsp?contentId=202929#ixzz10vgaACHP

[fryingdutchman]

Appropriate that a show about life on the sea has now jumped the shark.

Even if this whole thing gets settled and the Hillstrand and Hansen brothers return, the show now looks completely superficial and more about contract obligations than crab fishing.

This kind of thing takes the shine off of a jewel REAL quick...

[Jagermeister]

Appropriate that a show about life on the sea has now jumped the shark.

Even if this whole thing gets settled and the Hillstrand and Hansen brothers return, the show now looks completely superficial and more about contract obligations than crab fishing.

This kind of thing takes the shine off of a jewel REAL quick...

You have to wonder if Discovery even cares at this point. It would be hard to top last season IMO. You can only watch so many crab being caught before that shit gets old. How can they top the drama of last season? I don't know I think it's a dead show at this point.

[chefcraig]

It really seems like Karma. Discovery milked a man's death and exploited the grief and misery of his friends and family for what is essentially, a reality based tv show. Then to compound things, the channel inexplicably sued the very people it was exploiting. What's next, coming after the audience for viewing the show in the first place?

[GAR]

LOL these stupid fuckers bathed themselves in crab guts and bloody fish shit for 5 years on camera, then get sued for 3 million for not sitting down to talk about it?

What more is there to say? "I'm the stupid fucker who bathed daily in bloody fish shit for 22 hours a day with no sleep, yup that's me." or "oh, my - I felt so bloody full of fucking crab lips and fish snatch on that one.. yeah, I remember on this one episode I took my boots off for the shower and they too were filled with octopus guts and seaweed."

These are stupid people living stupid lives. I'm surprised the Mexicans haven't made it up there yet to take their jobs!

[Nitro Express]

It really seems like Karma. Discovery milked a man's death and exploited the grief and misery of his friends and family for what is essentially, a reality based tv show. Then to compound things, the channel inexplicably sued the very people it was exploiting. What's next, coming after the audience for viewing the show in the first place?

I stopped watching Discover because of it's obvious exploitation of Captain Phil's Death. A friend of my wife was on some reality show and she said the contract was 500 pages long. People basically sign their lives away to be on the things and that is why you have cameras in your face while your dad is dying and you are fighting with your brother over his drug addiction. Cameras don't belong there but of course that was the last thing on the family's mind when they signed the contract. Captain Phil dying was more valuable to Discovery ratings than when the dude was alive. I find reality TV tasteless and I wipe my ass with it. Fuck the vultures and that is what they are.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

These are stupid people living stupid lives. I'm surprised the Mexicans haven't made it up there yet to take their jobs!

how does it go? pot meet kettle?

[GAR]

Pete, I'm not a Mexican but I like throwing trash on the freeway at 'em for driving so fucking slow..

So I could probably be a good one if I tried huh..

[Nitro Express]

Like Sig and Edgar always say...

"There's the right way, the wrong way, and the NORWEGIAN way."

Sounds like you experienced that shit first hand!

Yup. My dad and uncle used to say you can tell a Norwegian but you can't tell them much. There is a very stubborn get the fuck out of my way thing going and the older and more experienced you are the more authority you have. Dad is king and then the oldest brother. Mom is Queen of the house but in the family business there's the pecking order. Much like an Italian family without all the hugging and kissing. More like work hard all day, eat a big meal and fuck Helga like a jack hammer.

[chefcraig]

how does it go? pot meet kettle?

Ignore this crap, will you? Some stuff isn't worth responding to, let alone reading in the first place. And considering the thread's subject matter, don't allow things be derailed over it.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ame0g4mTJu8NSr2Ipi2TyeWbvZx4;_ylu=X3oDMTNpb2Z nYXFlBGEDMTAxMDA5IG9tZyBkZWFkbGllc3QgY2F0Y2ggc3Rhc nMgdARjcG9zAzEEZwNpZC00MzU4NwRpbnRsA3VzBHBrZ3YDOAR wb3MDMgRzZWMDdGQtZmVhdARzbGsDdGl0bGUEc2xwb3MDRgR0Z XN0AzcwMQ--/SIG=12s2nccfh/EXP=1286750878/**http%3A//omg.yahoo.com/news/deadliest-catch-stars-rejoin-series/48659%3Fnc

guess they are back

[ZahZoo]

I guess that's good... would seem Discovery had to make a 180 to save face and the show. Glad they came to their senses...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110224/ap_on_en_tv/us_deadliest_catch_death
:(

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – A member of the hit cable TV show "Deadliest Catch" fishing crew has been found dead in an Alaska motel room, police said Wednesday.
Justin Tennison, who worked on the Time Bandit, one of the vessels on the popular Discovery Channel reality series that depicts the crab fishing industry in the dangerous waters off Alaska, was found dead Tuesday afternoon in Homer, authorities said.

[BITEYOASS]

All of these education channels (i.e. History, Discovery, Nat. Geographic) turned to shit when they decided to go flashy and air reality tv 24/7.

[FORD]

Actually they turned to shit when they got bought up by the likes of Hearst Publishing and Rupert Murdoch Inc, two organizations which have always been dedicated to the polar opposite of anything involving education or an accurate historical record.

[chefcraig]

All of these education channels (i.e. History, Discovery, Nat. Geographic) turned to shit when they decided to go flashy and air reality tv 24/7.

What's worse, when some piece of crap bubbles to the surface and becomes a hit, they all have to create a show just like it to duplicate the success. So you have about a half dozen of these cold weather fishing shows, all Alaska Fridays, Ice Road truckers in Central America, gun/shooting shows, a bunch of ghost chasing shows, American Pickers/Treasures, man vs just about anything, build it in a hurry shows based upon Monster Garage, food challenges, and the latest, a movie make-up/elimination show that has all the drama of watching paint dry. Enough already!

[chefcraig]

The show returns this evening with a two hour episode. From what I've read, the episode begins with yet another tribute to Phil Harris, who by all reports remains dead. In addition, the promos for the season are spectacularly morbid, shot in black and white and featuring Johnny Cash's "Ain't No Grave Can Hold My Body Down". Something tells me this show should have ended last season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvsmEtMPAA

[sadaist]

Thanks for the heads up. I went to the DVR and set it to record so I don't miss it now. But as I was scrolling it was an entire afternoon & evening of last season, then a couple of best of season 6 episodes. I am a little curious to see what the story was with the one kid who just had the boat raided by police looking for drugs...back in January I think. But yeah, the series should have ended. The best character is gone now and I'm afraid they are gonna milk the hell of of him still.

[chefcraig]

Believe me, Discovery has been milking the situation for the past two weeks. That's when the promos began, as well as several mini-marathons, mostly focusing on last season. The "best-of" episodes actually ran last week, and have been repeated at least three times in the span of one week. The effect has been numbing enough that I refused to watch any of it in that time span, and if the season premier is little more than a rehash of what took place last season with new footage, I don't see myself staying tuned in after finding out how Phil's sons are doing and what is going on with Jake Anderson. From what I've read, there has been no progress in the investigation regarding his father's disappearance. The thing is, Discovery will no doubt string this information out over several episodes.

[Guitar Shark]

I agree that they're milking it, Craig, but I have to admit that it's ok with me. Phil was always a favorite, but as long as the Hilstrand brothers and the Time Bandit crew are still involved, I will most likely check it out. Those guys are hilarious.

[CROWBAR]

Well, I dunno, I watched it and wasn't that impressed. One flare up between the new Captain of the Cornelia Marie and Phil's youngest son and the mechanic. Bout the only real spark last night. It's ran it's course I'd say. They added one new boat, but their biggest dilemma turned out to be who forgot to clean up the galley. Whoo hoo!

and what the fuck was the deal at the end where they sent out the Coast Guard to rescue some Japanese freighter ship?

[ZahZoo]

The tribute to Capt Phil in the opening was nice. I guess they're milking it... but also showed what he meant to those guys.

The Hilstrand's remain my favorites... Jonathan emptying out a 9mm and his brother blasting off some sort of assault rifle at the memorial. They earned their skull and cross-bones.

It wouldn't be a good season without a great display of Edgar Hansen's gift with playing with fire...

[CROWBAR]

Last season, the Hilstrands were gonna fire long time crew member Mike Fortner. Now they're all lovey dovey with him. Then the ongoing Edgar Hansen situation...will he stay on or will he finally go? Guy has been keeping his older brother Sig hanging for about three yrs. now with this decision. Where was Captain Bill last night? Didn't see him. He's the only Captain salty enough to take over Phil's place on the show.

[chefcraig]

Well, I dunno, I watched it and wasn't that impressed. One flare up between the new Captain of the Cornelia Marie and Phil's youngest son and the mechanic. Bout the only real spark last night. It's ran it's course I'd say. They added one new boat, but their biggest dilemma turned out to be who forgot to clean up the galley. Whoo hoo!

and what the fuck was the deal at the end where they sent out the Coast Guard to rescue some Japanese freighter ship?

My sentiments exactly. Whenever somebody on tv claims they are not doing something for the cameras (thus breaking the so-called "4th wall") then you know they are doing that something specifically for the cameras.

I'm beginning to wonder if Discovery is thinking of spinning off a helicopter rescue show from Deadliest Catch. As you'll recall from last season, the channel pulled the same stunt by including footage from a rescue of some anonymous guy who'd suffered a heart attack aboard a ship that had nothing to do with the fleet. Yes, the footage was enthralling, but what did it have to do with crab fishing?

[CROWBAR]

I know, it gave me the impression that they didn't have enough footage of the fleet so they had to add anything else they could scrounge up. Some of the stuff taking place the last season or two appears scripted for the cameras. I dunno. I've been watching this since the beginning and you can definitely see a transition of sorts once the show gained popularity.

[chefcraig]

Absolutely, and if you'll recall the same sort of thing took place when American Chopper took off. Next thing you know, Mickey is thrust into the spotlight (even though he did absolutely nothing otherwise) as comic relief, doing all sorts of "for the camera" nonsense. The fights between Paul and Senior took on a fake element, and you wondered how a company could even stay in business with all of the yelling taking place over what was essentially a bunch of pointless debates accentuated by an apparent case of roid-rage on Senior's part. And just look what happened to that show. After a successful run, it was unceremoniously dumped to the lower tier TLC, where it pretty much died. Then it was reborn as the insufferable "Senior vs Junior", a morose and depressing show that only seems to be on tv in order to further exploit the family's misery.

Notice how the phrase "exploit the family's misery" applies to both Deadliest Catch and Senior Vs Junior.

[CROWBAR]

Yeah, totally agree. The Senior vs. Junior show is so contrived. I can't get into it at all. I find it hard to believe that they both agreed to do it, but maybe they have their reasons. Namely, they had just built a huge new bike shop and probably had to keep those big bucks rolling in, so it was either keep doing it to survive or go bankrupt. I think Discovery pretty much has the Tuttel's by the balls as contract players now.

I somehow see something similar happening to the Harris brothers on Deadliest Catch. You know they're gonna have some unexpected strains in the next few years. Stuff they weren't even expecting.

[chefcraig]

I somehow see something similar happening to the Harris brothers on Deadliest Catch. You know they're gonna have some unexpected strains in the next few years. Stuff they weren't even expecting.

Think about this angle: Jake was tested for substances in the first episode, right? How long do you think it will take until he fails one, and it becomes the centerpiece of more drama? I know that sounds cynical as hell, but I really would not put it past Discovery to manipulate things. Remember, this is the same production company that tried to sue the Hillstrand brothers a few months ago, so there is no limit to how low things could go. And a member of the Time Bandit's crew died in February (Justin Tennison (http://www.timebandit.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=177:arcticle-justin-tennison&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=208)), so expect to see that exploited in a future episode as well.

[CROWBAR]

They've already started with this angle is you ask me, after what we saw on last night's episode. They piss tested the kid, then he had the audacity to tell the new Cappy him and the mechanic that they had a half hour errand to run and didn't come back for two hours. Gee, I wonder what they were up to? Can you say "drug run"?

I'm always reminded of Jim Carrey in "The Truman Show" when I see these Discovery shows. Like you know the producers are always scheming and plotting the shows characters against each other.

[hambon4lif]

They were just on GMA this morning telling everyone they lose JT toward the end of this season. Fuckin' dopes!
They killed their own ratings by killing the suspense.

[chefcraig]

Spoiler Alert: If you'd rather NOT know about an upcoming merger of two Discovery Channel shows, then DO NOT click on the following links:

Merger (http://homertribune.com/2011/03/deadliest-catch-meets-motorcycle-mania/)

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?suggested_categories=24%2C2&search_query=American+Chopper+Deadliest+Catch+Bike %2C+this+week)

[Nitro Express]

Yeah, totally agree. The Senior vs. Junior show is so contrived. I can't get into it at all. I find it hard to believe that they both agreed to do it, but maybe they have their reasons. Namely, they had just built a huge new bike shop and probably had to keep those big bucks rolling in, so it was either keep doing it to survive or go bankrupt. I think Discovery pretty much has the Tuttel's by the balls as contract players now.

I somehow see something similar happening to the Harris brothers on Deadliest Catch. You know they're gonna have some unexpected strains in the next few years. Stuff they weren't even expecting.

Welcome to show business. They have been screwing actors over for years with contracts and advances. Keep em broke so they have to work and keep em on contract. The only reason we have so called reality TV is it's cheaper than hiring actors and running a real scripted show. You hang a carrot in front of Bubba's face, he takes the bait, he signs and you have him. Oh they might get angry but when they learn you can take their crab boat from them they tend to settle down and play ball again. All the drama tends to raise the ratings numbers anyways.

[CROWBAR]

I keep waiting for a huge throw down between Senior and Junior, but it never gets past the yelling at each other stage. I'd hate to be that Rick guy whose stuck with them since the beginning. Vinny bailed on all their BS awhile back.

Yeah, the Harris Bros are gonna be in for a surprise somewhere down the road me thinks. They are Discovery Channel property and don't even know it yet. I'm sure the show's producers are whispering in their ears to keep going "for your old man".

[Nitro Express]

When a cable network has cameras running while dad is dying and then they milk the whole thing for ratings I would say the family signed the devils contract. I'm sorry but that shit don't fly with me. I find it very wrong and stopped watching the show and the Discovery Channel for that matter. I really don't watch that much TV anymore.

[Nitro Express]

I keep waiting for a huge throw down between Senior and Junior, but it never gets past the yelling at each other stage. I'd hate to be that Rick guy whose stuck with them since the beginning. Vinny bailed on all their BS awhile back.

Yeah, the Harris Bros are gonna be in for a surprise somewhere down the road me thinks. They are Discovery Channel property and don't even know it yet. I'm sure the show's producers are whispering in their ears to keep going "for your old man".

Rick collects his check. It's a job. He's probably happy as shit that he is not in the Tuttle family.

[chefcraig]

They've already started with this angle is you ask me, after what we saw on last night's episode. They piss tested the kid, then he had the audacity to tell the new Cappy him and the mechanic that they had a half hour errand to run and didn't come back for two hours. Gee, I wonder what they were up to? Can you say "drug run"?



Jesus, did we call this one, or what? You should see the commercial for next week's episode. The new captain of the Cornelia Marie, the same guy that couldn't find a crab if it was sticking out of his ass, can find the police. That's right, he rips the boat apart looking for drugs, then calls the cops in order to have one (or both) of the Harris boys arrested when the ship gets back into port. And all of that is included in the commercial!

[Guitar Shark]

Jesus, did we call this one, or what? You should see the commercial for next week's episode. The new captain of the Cornelia Marie, the same guy that couldn't find a crab if it was sticking out of his ass, can find the police. That's right, he rips the boat apart looking for drugs, then calls the cops in order to have one (or both) of the Harris boys arrested when the ship gets back into port. And all of that is included in the commercial!

Finally saw this episode last night. I can't decide who I found more annoying - the captain who turned him in, or the Harris brothers and crew for being such babies. What did you think Craig?

[chefcraig]

Finally saw this episode last night. I can't decide who I found more annoying - the captain who turned him in, or the Harris brothers and crew for being such babies. What did you think Craig?

I'm a bit confused, to tell you the truth. This Derrick guy said in a recent interview that he was told before the boat left the dock that they were only going out to get some footage, and would return having done little if any fishing whatsoever. Now who would sign on for something like that, if it was all going to be manufactured drama? Yet there he is, grousing to the cameras about how lame the crew is, going on a turd hunt for drugs and surprise! He finds evidence. Then he calls the cops, bringing attention to not only the crew, but to just about everyone on the planet including the Coast Guard, because he fears losing his license? Huh? So it appears the guy was all about himself from the beginning. This was evidenced by his picking a fight with a crewman, then saying "I'm not doing this for the cameras", a line that conveyed just the opposite. So now what? Oh, just to add to things, Derrick has agreed to fly to Hawaii to film an episode or two of After The Catch, those maudlin and occasionally entertaining shows used to pad out the season with Mike Rowe as the master of ceremonies. So it would seem that we have not seen the last of him.

This has been the most morose season of the show yet, and I believe it has jumped the shark and should have folded up shop last year. A few specials in prime time would have been fine, just to catch up. But this shit each week? It's as if Discovery has decided to corner the market on depressing reality tv. Next up: Senior VS Junior in a build-off. I can hardly wait.

[Guitar Shark]

Bizarre. While I don't doubt that the Discovery Channel creates controversy and drama where it can, I have a hard time believing that the whole storyline was manufactured. Jake walks out and buys a plane ticket when he sees the cop to try to skip town? The other crew members were pretty obviously distressed about the whole thing, which seemed genuine to me. These guys aren't actors, they're crab fishermen. I just don't see them being able to pull off an elaborate ruse.

I do agree that the show has really dropped off, though. I find myself not even caring much about what happens with the mainstay boats, and I couldn't care less about what happens on the Ramblin' Rose and that other new boat. Lame.

[chefcraig]

For a good idea of what odd motivations this Derrick Ray character might have had, here is one of the interviews he gave recently. You'll notice he changes his story in this one about being warned of how things were to be, only now it's three days after the ship left the harbor. Personally, I think the guy is as nutty as a bowl of granola cereal.

'Deadliest Catch': Captain Derrick Ray (http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2011/05/deadliest_catch_captain_derric.html)

[chefcraig]

The episode of After The Catch featuring Captain Derrick Ray mentioned above will air this evening on Discovery Channel. According to the tv listing, Captain Phil Harris will be discussed as well. Wow, what a surprise.

[fryingdutchman]

This season of "Catch" has defintely had a different feel to it. While I don't think it's been a total bomb, it certainly feels much more contrived and that the drama is being manufactured.

The new boats are (Seabrooke and Ramblin' Rose) have so far failed to bring anything significant to the table...unless you like watching Greenhorns fail.

But nothing has lived up to its billing. I remember reading in TV Guide before the season started that the "Ramblin' Rose" was going to be the "party boat" full of "young, frat guy types" that were going to drink hard and party harder, and get into all sorts of trouble. I have not seen that yet....nor do I think I will.

I dunno....I still find the show interesting from the crabbing perspective because of how brutal the job it and how fascinating it is to watch. But the personalities have started to become annoying....

And come to think of it, they haven't mentioned a single word about Jake Anderson's (Northwestern) missing father.....which was a big storyline at the end of last season.

[fryingdutchman]

Spoiler Alert: If you'd rather NOT know about an upcoming merger of two Discovery Channel shows, then DO NOT click on the following links:

Merger (http://homertribune.com/2011/03/deadliest-catch-meets-motorcycle-mania/)

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?suggested_categories=24%2C2&search_query=American+Chopper+Deadliest+Catch+Bike %2C+this+week)

I had heard about this "crossover" episode (which i won't be specific about in case anyone didn't hear about it and didn't click the links to avoid a spoiler)...

But this is ridiculous. Suffice it to say that the parties involved in all of this are probably amongst the biggest, loudmouthed attention whores in Discovery's reality-show biz. I have a feeling that this particular "episode" is going to be incredibly annoying and will be nothing more than a competition of tough-guy posturing and antics in which everyone will come out looking like a loser.

[chefcraig]

As predicted, the After The Catch show was fairly dismal. After opening with yet another rehash of Phil's death that brought on an appearance by Phil's sons, the estranged Captain Derrick showed up, immediately getting into a bleep-filled segment of threats and insults with Josh Harris. Instead of anything being resolved, both the Harris brothers and Derrick walked off the set. In order to fill this gap, one of the show's camera men was brought in and interviewed, along with that mealy-mouthed doofus that captains the Ramblin' Rose (Elliott Neese). After listening to him whine about things for a while, I'd had enough and switched the channel.

Christ, what a convoluted waste of time this show has become.

[Jagermeister]

As predicted, the After The Catch show was fairly dismal. After opening with yet another rehash of Phil's death that brought on an appearance by Phil's sons, the estranged Captain Derrick showed up, immediately getting into a bleep-filled segment of threats and insults with Josh Harris. Instead of anything being resolved, both the Harris brothers and Derrick walked off the set. In order to fill this gap, one of the show's camera men was brought in and interviewed, along with that mealy-mouthed doofus that captains the Ramblin' Rose (Elliott Neese). After listening to him whine about things for a while, I'd had enough and switched the channel.

Christ, what a convoluted waste of time this show has become.

I am a little behind on the new stuff. Last I saw the Harris kid walked off the boat and got on a plane. Then they had a new captain for opie season. That's the last I saw I think.

[chefcraig]

I am a little behind on the new stuff. Last I saw the Harris kid walked off the boat and got on a plane. Then they had a new captain for opie season. That's the last I saw I think.

This will get you up to speed: Jake Harris returned, passed another drug test and the Cornelia went to sea minus Freddie (who, needing a steady paycheck, went to work on the Wizard) and Steve (no word on him). Edgar quit the Northwestern, which left port without him. Some of the worst weather in recent history messes up the fishing for everyone, and a few people got injured in the chaos. Seriously, that's about it.

[Nitro Express]

I told my wife a year ago these reality shows were getting so dumb that the next thing they would do is show dudes mining coal. I'm channel surfing a few weeks ago and I couldn't believe it. They had a coal mine reality show. Anyways I'm predicting they will do a show on proctologists next.

[chefcraig]

I told my wife a year ago these reality shows were getting so dumb that the next thing they would do is show dudes mining coal. I'm channel surfing a few weeks ago and I couldn't believe it. They had a coal mine reality show. Anyways I'm predicting they will do a show on proctologists next.

Considering all the attention the Chilean miners' story received last year, that was hardly going out on a limb. As for a show about things being shoved up people's asses, Jackass on MTV has been doing that for years.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I told my wife a year ago these reality shows were getting so dumb that the next thing they would do is show dudes mining coal. I'm channel surfing a few weeks ago and I couldn't believe it. They had a coal mine reality show. Anyways I'm predicting they will do a show on proctologists next.

couldn't have predicted a female body painting show or a t&a restaurant (hooters, tilted kilt, etc.) show? c'mon nitro.:pullinghair:

[fryingdutchman]

This will get you up to speed: Jake Harris returned, passed another drug test and the Cornelia went to sea minus Freddie (who, needing a steady paycheck, went to work on the Wizard) and Steve (no word on him). Edgar quit the Northwestern, which left port without him. Some of the worst weather in recent history messes up the fishing for everyone, and a few people got injured in the chaos. Seriously, that's about it.

Spot on, Chef...as usual.

Damn...what does it say about the excitement level of a show when 3 or 4 hours of programming can be summed up in 3 brief sentences?

[fryingdutchman]

As predicted, the After The Catch show was fairly dismal. After opening with yet another rehash of Phil's death that brought on an appearance by Phil's sons, the estranged Captain Derrick showed up, immediately getting into a bleep-filled segment of threats and insults with Josh Harris. Instead of anything being resolved, both the Harris brothers and Derrick walked off the set. In order to fill this gap, one of the show's camera men was brought in and interviewed, along with that mealy-mouthed doofus that captains the Ramblin' Rose (Elliott Neese). After listening to him whine about things for a while, I'd had enough and switched the channel.

Christ, what a convoluted waste of time this show has become.

Y'know what the sad thing is? There are probably some clueless suits at Discovery Channel who are licking their chops and think that this nonsense is actually "compelling television."

The whole "Derrick Ray vs. Harris brothers" bullshit was ridiculous, and they brought it on themselves. I believe the following is true (if anybody cares):

1. Derrick was set up to fail because he was the first "post-Phil" Captain and was not going to get out of that shadow.
2. Derrick was also set up to fail because they decided to go after the fucking BLUE crab...which is notoriously hard to find and difficult to catch in large quantities. Why the fuck would you do that on your first trip out after the loss of the "beloved Capt. Phil?"
3. Jake Harris is a lazy, immature junkie who will go back to his old ways before too long.
4. Josh Harris, who I always credited as being the "smarter, more savvy Harris brother" is apparently not the man I thought he was, if he's willing to battle the Captain and compromise crew and boat safety by covering for his douchebag brother.

Derrick Ray may have his shortcomings, and I haven't seen the "After the Catch" episode yet to judge for myself. But I think he was put in a no-win situation, the outcome of which was known before they even left Dutch.

[chefcraig]

The thing is, Ray claims to have known all along that he was being set up. If that is the case, why did he remain there? He certainly seemed to love the cameras while things were going on, enough so that he agreed to come on the ATC show months after things went sour. And what does he do? Rather than portraying his side of the story, he throws around a bunch of threats and storms off the set. Wanna bet a camera crew follows him onto his next boat in the coming season?

[Jagermeister]

I watched a DVR episode last night. It was kinda cool. That storm was kicking the shit out of the fleet.

[fryingdutchman]

I watched a DVR episode last night. It was kinda cool. That storm was kicking the shit out of the fleet.

I watched my DVR episode last night too!

Ya gotta throw some props at Captain Keith and his fish hook sutures.

And you're right about the storm. I don't think I've ever seen Sig Hansen panic like he did at one point last night. He misses having Edgar to hold things down on the deck.

[Guitar Shark]

Y'know what the sad thing is? There are probably some clueless suits at Discovery Channel who are licking their chops and think that this nonsense is actually "compelling television."

The whole "Derrick Ray vs. Harris brothers" bullshit was ridiculous, and they brought it on themselves. I believe the following is true (if anybody cares):

1. Derrick was set up to fail because he was the first "post-Phil" Captain and was not going to get out of that shadow.
2. Derrick was also set up to fail because they decided to go after the fucking BLUE crab...which is notoriously hard to find and difficult to catch in large quantities. Why the fuck would you do that on your first trip out after the loss of the "beloved Capt. Phil?"
3. Jake Harris is a lazy, immature junkie who will go back to his old ways before too long.
4. Josh Harris, who I always credited as being the "smarter, more savvy Harris brother" is apparently not the man I thought he was, if he's willing to battle the Captain and compromise crew and boat safety by covering for his douchebag brother.

Derrick Ray may have his shortcomings, and I haven't seen the "After the Catch" episode yet to judge for myself. But I think he was put in a no-win situation, the outcome of which was known before they even left Dutch.

Good post man. My reaction was similar to yours. I thought the responses of some of the other boat captains (Sig and Keith in particular) were pretty telling. Although they didn't come right out and say it, it was pretty clear that they were siding with Ray on the whole deal. Perhaps not surprising since they are captains themselves, but it was still interesting.

About the blue crab - there was some discussion about quotas which left me with the conclusion that they didn't have enough quota to fish for red king crab, so their only realistic option was to fish for blue crab. I don't really understand how that works.

[ZahZoo]

Yeah, totally agree. The Senior vs. Junior show is so contrived. I can't get into it at all. I find it hard to believe that they both agreed to do it, but maybe they have their reasons. Namely, they had just built a huge new bike shop and probably had to keep those big bucks rolling in, so it was either keep doing it to survive or go bankrupt. I think Discovery pretty much has the Tuttel's by the balls as contract players now.

I somehow see something similar happening to the Harris brothers on Deadliest Catch. You know they're gonna have some unexpected strains in the next few years. Stuff they weren't even expecting.

The Harris bros don't have a lot to gain other than what Discovery pays them and some Jerry Springer side-show celebrity that will eventually land them doing commentary on TruTV Dumbest Criminals along side Danny Bonaduchey...

The Tuttles on the other hand is a pretty simple business logic... they get paid by Discovery to play up their family circus while both companies capitalize on some of the most lucrative national/international advertising without paying a dime for it. It would cost Billions to buy that much air time weekly... Neither company would even be in business if it weren't for the show...