The "crazies" in the Tea Party Movement are...

[BigBadBrian]

...actually Liberals, Marxists, Socialists, and Democrats. And don't think for a minute Republicans are a part of this "network" like the website says. That's just wishful thinking.

Follow this Link (http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/)

[Jesus Christ]

Ye are bearing false witness again :jesuslol:

[jhale667]

...actually Liberals, Marxists, Socialists, and Democrats. And don't think for a minute Republicans are a part of this "network" like the website says. That's just wishful thinking.

Follow this Link (http://www.crashtheteaparty.org/)

Keep telling yourself that, but to the NON-delusional...

http://jeffreyricker.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/bullshit.jpg

[kwame k]

Wow, just plain wow......So now it's the Liberals that have infiltrated the Grand Old Party.....er, the Tea Party.

Commie Libs, I see Commie Libs, they have taken over everything.

You fucking people find conspiracies everywhere and I've never seen such a paranoid bunch of people in my life or people who throw so much utter bullshit out there hoping anything will stick.
The last 2 years I've heard Obama is not an American citizen, is a super secret Muslim, wants to kill all the newborn babies and a myriad of other false accusation. All building upon.....one outrageous lie upon another.

Health care......death panels, population control, and every other utter nonsense they've thrown out there.

Where the fuck were you people when Bush invaded a sovereign nation under the pretext of WMD's and when NONE WERE FOUND seemed to just accept the fact......well, he's our President and we must support him, was the bullshit I heard. We tortured people who may have done nothing wrong other than they may have been on the wrong side of a Warlord, we spied on our own American citizens,(which is unconstitutional, BTW), ran up record deficits and allowed Wall Street a free reign for 8 years.......where was the outrage? I guess if you're a white guy doing all these things and telling the country that God himself told you to do it, it's OK.

Funny when we had Pre-Bush prosperity there was no outrage over the shit Clinton was pulling, just moral outrage that he was fucking around on his wife. Spent millions on that shit but did nothing about NAFTA, deregulations and the start of the housing bubble......didn't give a fuck did you? That shit was OK, fuck around on your wife, OMG!

Yet here you mental midgets are just spewing some of the craziest shit I've ever heard in my life and when one outrageous lie doesn't fly you make up even bigger lies:pullinghair:

You had power and lost it because you ran this country into the ground, get the fuck over it!

[Seshmeister]

In other news it turns out Sarah Palin is actually a rocket surgeon...

[kwame k]

In other news it turns out Sarah Palin is actually a rocket surgeon...

Nope, she is just taking "perks" that are in violation of California State laws........


Discarded Palin contract sparks investigation

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – A document fished out of a California state university trash bin last week has prompted a state investigation into the university's foundation arm and its refusal to disclose details related to Sarah Palin's upcoming speech at the school.

On Tuesday, California Attorney General Jerry Brown said his office would look into the finances of the California State University, Stanislaus Foundation, as well as allegations that the nonprofit organization violated public disclosure laws by keeping details of Palin's contract secret. Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_calif_palin_contract)

......but that's OK because if you vote for her you get to fuck her ;)

[BigBadBrian]

You had power and lost it because you ran this country into the ground, get the fuck over it!

Power will belong to the GOP again soon...at least in the House. Obama will have to play ball then.

You get your panties in a bunch rather easily. Are all the would-be troublemakers in the Tea Party belonging to this organization I posted a link to? No. Every org has it's extreme element, including the Left Wing of the Roth Army, The Tea Party, the DU (especially them), MoveOn.org(and them), both wings of Congress, etc.

Chill out...take a deep breath...have a beer. :gulp:

[kwame k]

Power will belong to the GOP again soon...at least in the House. Obama will have to play ball then.

You get your panties in a bunch rather easily. Are all the would-be troublemakers in the Tea Party belonging to this organization I posted a link to? No. Every org has it's extreme element, including the Left Wing of the Roth Army, The Tea Party, the DU (especially them), MoveOn.org(and them), both wings of Congress, etc.

Chill out...take a deep breath...have a beer. :gulp:

So when you can't dispute the facts you accuse me of having my panties in a bunch?

Come on man, you're spamming the Front Line with shit that isn't even in the same ballpark as credible information.

[BigBadBrian]

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – A document fished out of a California state university trash bin last week has prompted a state investigation into the university's foundation arm and its refusal to disclose details related to Sarah Palin's upcoming speech at the school.

On Tuesday, California Attorney General Jerry Brown said his office would look into the finances of the California State University, Stanislaus Foundation, as well as allegations that the nonprofit organization violated public disclosure laws by keeping details of Palin's contract secret.

They don't have to disclose what she's getting paid. She is being paid to speak by a private organization, not a state or non-profit.

[kwame k]

Reread the second paragraph and get back to me........read it v.....e....r....y s...l...o...w...l....y.

[Kristy]

Is there a shit-stirrer emoticon for Big Bad Brain Drain's post we can use?

[hambon4lif]

Funny when we had Pre-Bush prosperity there was no outrage over the shit Clinton was pulling, just moral outrage that he was fucking around on his wife. Spent millions on that shit but did nothing about NAFTA, deregulations and the start of the housing bubble......didn't give a fuck did you? That shit was OK, fuck around on your wife, OMG!....looking back on it now, we discover what an ultimate deflection that was.

If people weren't jerking off to a copy of the Starr Report like it was Penthouse Forums, they got on their moral high-horse about how wrong it was for him to fuck around on his old lady. (As if that was a real marriage to begin with....I still maintain that the whole thing was Hillarys fault).
Either way, they were so consumed with Slick Willy gettin' a beej that they weren't paying any attention to what was really going on....what was really important.
Truth be told, he could've got away with alot more than he did.
I'll go so far as to predict that future Presidents/politicians will use this tactic when they start doing their dirt because everyone will be looking the other way.

The Ultimate Deflection, indeed!

[kwame k]

Kind of a reverse Wag The Dog........

[knuckleboner]

speaking from a little bit of experience, the people directly associated with the tea party movement are far more likely to be nuts than the average person.

[hambon4lif]

Kind of a reverse Wag The Dog........LOL! Exactly!

Actually, I think infidelity is even more effective than starting bullshit wars in other countrys as far as diverting the peoples attention. Think about what JFK could've gotten away with while everyone else was too busy speculating whether or not he was bangin' Marilyn Monroe....that would've been a prime time to pull some heinous shit politically, and nobody would've been the wiser.

Looking at Hillary, you would understand why Bill would fuck a hole in a donut! But more people remember him doing Gennifer Flowers and that bubble-head Monica than they do NAFTA, deregulations, or anything else he did during his presidency.
I hate to slam the collective intelligence of this country, but damnit it WORKED! So much so that we re-elected the fucker.

I'm telling ya' the truth here.....the reason Obama is under such a microscope is simply because he doesn't have an extracurricular lovelife for people to get caught up in. He has yet to be caught for goddamn jaywalking......I find it really bizarre!
One thing Chicago politicians are known for is that they're such honest, truthful, solid, upstanding individuals. :biggrin:

He really needs a scandal going on to distract his haters. The majority of them have the 'US Weekly/People magazine' level of intelligence anyway....

[Unchainme]

I don't find it fair that immediately those that take part of in one of these tea party rallies are automatically construed as bigots and racists.

Mis-informed? I believe a good portion of them are, yes. And frankly I think it's a bit extreme to parade around with "Obama=Hitler" really kills a lot of credibility that these folks have. But I think what it boils down to, is that these people are fearful of becoming what they think is a socialist country and having to pay outrageous taxes, and I guess they in a way feel that the government has marginalized their voice to the point of almost being non-existent to a degree.

And frankly, I do agree with them on that much, I feel that the government and the big businesses of the world are pretty much butt buddies and giving the American people the middle finger, we can argue all day and all night which side of that relationship is hurting America more, but bottom line, we're the ones getting screwed, while the other two sides just keep increasing in size suffocating us more and more.

The health care bill is a great example of this. I felt that we as a people had very little say on what went into it, and rather than just go into the facts or going with what worked has worked across the globe we witnessed a circus on both sides of the aisle. Sob Stories to the left and to the right, and then the media on both sides (fox and msnbc) just shoving bias pieces of propaganda on why each side wants to screw the american public.

Things need to change, period.

[kwame k]

Excellent post, bro.

[kwame k]

LOL! Exactly!

Actually, I think infidelity is even more effective than starting bullshit wars in other countrys as far as diverting the peoples attention. Think about what JFK could've gotten away with while everyone else was too busy speculating whether or not he was bangin' Marilyn Monroe....that would've been a prime time to pull some heinous shit politically, and nobody would've been the wiser.

Looking at Hillary, you would understand why Bill would fuck a hole in a donut! But more people remember him doing Gennifer Flowers and that bubble-head Monica than they do NAFTA, deregulations, or anything else he did during his presidency.
I hate to slam the collective intelligence of this country, but damnit it WORKED! So much so that we re-elected the fucker.

I'm telling ya' the truth here.....the reason Obama is under such a microscope is simply because he doesn't have an extracurricular lovelife for people to get caught up in. He has yet to be caught for goddamn jaywalking......I find it really bizarre!
One thing Chicago politicians are known for is that they're such honest, truthful, solid, upstanding individuals. :biggrin:

He really needs a scandal going on to distract his haters. The majority of them have the 'US Weekly/People magazine' level of intelligence anyway....

....it's sad that we need a more immoral President :)

[jhale667]

That was indeed an excellent post, but BigBlandBrie needs to read THIS part again (as Kwame mentioned) S-L-O-W-L-Y.


.... And frankly I think it's a bit extreme to parade around with "Obama=Hitler" really kills a lot of credibility that these folks have.


Oh wait - Brie never had any credibility...:lmao:

[kwame k]

:biggrin:

[knuckleboner]

I don't find it fair that immediately those that take part of in one of these tea party rallies are automatically construed as bigots and racists.

Mis-informed? I believe a good portion of them are, yes. And frankly I think it's a bit extreme to parade around with "Obama=Hitler" really kills a lot of credibility that these folks have. But I think what it boils down to, is that these people are fearful of becoming what they think is a socialist country and having to pay outrageous taxes, and I guess they in a way feel that the government has marginalized their voice to the point of almost being non-existent to a degree.

And frankly, I do agree with them on that much, I feel that the government and the big businesses of the world are pretty much butt buddies and giving the American people the middle finger, we can argue all day and all night which side of that relationship is hurting America more, but bottom line, we're the ones getting screwed, while the other two sides just keep increasing in size suffocating us more and more.

The health care bill is a great example of this. I felt that we as a people had very little say on what went into it, and rather than just go into the facts or going with what worked has worked across the globe we witnessed a circus on both sides of the aisle. Sob Stories to the left and to the right, and then the media on both sides (fox and msnbc) just shoving bias pieces of propaganda on why each side wants to screw the american public.

Things need to change, period.

but that's the thing, these people are delusional. they think they're not being listened to, but that's because they haven't been involved. the fact is that the bush administration did not help their agenda, by any means. increased deficits, increased government spending. tax cuts, but disproportionately for the more wealthy. yet they either voted for bush, or shrugged their shoulders.

then, we have an election in 2008. and i guantee you the vast majority of tea party attendees did not vote for democrats. so they SAY that they're not being listened to, but what it really means is that the candidate that they voted for (if they voted) didn't win. george bush and i didn't see eye to eye on a lot of policy issues, but i never claimed disenfranchised because he won. it's the political process. i knew my voice was heard as a dissenting vote in 2004, and that i'd have another opportunity in 2006 and to a greater extent, 2008.

the ludicriousness of the tea party belief is evident right in their name. Taxed Enough Already. umm...do they know that for 99.9% of them, taxes are LOWER under the obama administration than under bush? do they know that taxes are at a fairly low historical rate? no. because they see democrats spending money (after ignoring republicans spending money) and they get worried. they're largely irrational.

now, mind you, i am NOT saying that opposition to obama or the democrats is in any way irrational. but most tea party people (who i do NOT believe actually represent the majority of dissentors) are clearly irrational.

[Blackflag]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36528044

NYT: "Tea party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public,"

[sadaist]

Where the fuck were you people when Bush invaded a sovereign nation under the pretext of WMD's




We were reading United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441. And all of the previous resolutions, while thinking to ourselves what an idiot Saddam was for not complying with the international community.

"a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284). [1]

Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq's breaches related not only to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments, and the continuing refusal of Iraq to compensate Kuwait for the widespread looting conducted by its troops during the 1991 invasion and occupation. It also stated that "...false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1441

Saddam had more than enough opportunities to avoid the war.





You had power and lost it because you ran this country into the ground, get the fuck over it!




I hope you won't mind when we post this very exact sentence to you after November.

[hideyoursheep]

What "disarmament obligations" did Iraq have, sadaist?

If you want to drag a useless example of an excuse into the argument of invading, be prepared to discuss why the US DID NOT listen to the UNs' reasons NOT to invade.

But since you brought it up, the case could have been made for an invasion 1 month after the Gulf War, as Saddam blatantly violated resolutions within the confines of his own borders against his own people. Old man Bush could have given a shit less. This country wouldn't have stood still for it. It took his son to cook up some sort of fear against Iraq amid the paranoia of 9/11, saying he had some sort of non-existing nuclear program, even after Sec. of State Colin Powell admitted publicly in Feb. 01 that Iraq was no longer a threat. And he wasn't.

[hideyoursheep]

Is there a shit-stirrer emoticon for Big Bad Brain Drain's post we can use?

:stirthepot:



:sleazy-smiley:

[hideyoursheep]

NYT: "Tea party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public,"


More well educated?

:lmao:

Than who? The "God Hates Fags" inbreds?

[BigBadBrian]

speaking from a little bit of experience, the people directly associated with the tea party movement are far more likely to be nuts than the average person.

How many of those people do you know? They're crazy because they want lower taxes and more of an input into Washington...or that they are protesting your boy's policies?

[BigBadBrian]

More well educated?

:lmao:

Than who? The "God Hates Fags" inbreds?

Hey, leave your family out of this discussion!

[BigBadBrian]

Reread the second paragraph and get back to me........read it v.....e....r....y s...l...o...w...l....y.

No, I think you need to read your own quote again, Mensa.

[BigBadBrian]

now, mind you, i am NOT saying that opposition to obama or the democrats is in any way irrational.

Yes you are.

but most tea party people (who i do NOT believe actually represent the majority of dissentors) are clearly irrational.

You're painting with a rather broad brush, kb. Again, you don't know many, if any at all, of these people. The Dems are getting themselves into hot water when they start marginalizing Joe Sixpack's right to dissent.

[Seshmeister]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/06/AR2005060601651.html

Study: U.S. Leads In Mental Illness, Lags in Treatment


By Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer

One-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental illness within the past year, and fully a quarter of those had a "serious" disorder that significantly disrupted their ability to function day to day, according to the largest and most detailed survey of the nation's mental health, published yesterday.

Although parallel studies in 27 other countries are not yet complete, the new numbers suggest that the United States is poised to rank No. 1 globally for mental illness, researchers said.

"We lead the world in a lot of good things, but we're also leaders in this one particular domain that we'd rather not be," said Ronald Kessler, the Harvard professor of health care policy who led the effort, called the National Comorbidity Survey Replication.

The exhaustive government-sponsored effort, based on in-depth interviews with more than 9,000 randomly selected Americans, finds that the prevalence of U.S. mental illness has remained roughly flat in the past decade -- a possible glimmer of hope given that previous decades had suggested the rates were gradually rising.
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But the rest of the news from the survey -- which did not include some of the most serious disorders, such as schizophrenia, for which patients are often institutionalized -- is mostly discouraging.

Less than half of those in need get treated. Those who seek treatment typically do so after a decade or more of delays, during which time they are likely to develop additional problems. And the treatment they receive is usually inadequate.

Younger sufferers are especially overlooked, the survey found, even though mental illness is very much a disease of youth. Half of those who will ever be diagnosed with a mental disorder show signs of the disease by age 14, and three-quarters by age 24. But few get help.

Many factors contribute to these failings, the reports conclude, including inattention to early warning signs, inadequate health insurance and the lingering stigma that surrounds mental illness.

"The system has to get its act together to get its quality of care up," Kessler said.

Thomas Insel -- chief of the National Institute of Mental Health, which funded the $20 million study -- said the nation needs to recognize that mental illness is a chronic condition that requires expert medical attention just as heart disease, Alzheimer's and diabetes do.

He said he was disappointed to learn from the survey that despite the availability of effective treatments for many mental illnesses, including depression and anxiety, about a third of people in need rely solely on nonprofessional sources such as Internet support groups and spiritual advisers.

"You wouldn't rely on your priest for treatment if you had breast cancer," Insel said. "Why would you go to your priest for a major depressive disorder? These are real medical and brain disorders, and they need to be treated that way."

Mental health surveys have been conducted nationwide since the 1940s, but they offered only crude measures until 10 years ago, when the first National Comorbidity Study was performed. That highly structured survey asked questions specific enough to provide an accurate diagnosis for a wide range of mental disorders.

The study's 10-year follow-up, described in four reports in the June issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry, goes further by measuring, for the first time, the severity and persistence of people's mental illness and the quality of their treatment.

The survey, conducted by the University of Michigan, included 9,282 households selected at random in 34 states. Nearly 300 trained interviewers traveled about 8 million miles over a year and a half. They knocked on doors at all hours of the day and night to ensure they would not systematically miss alcohol abusers who spend their days at bars, people with depression who can go weeks hardly able to pull themselves out of bed and people with social phobia who only rarely answer the doorbell.

The interview notes were uploaded to a central repository for analysis by psychiatrists and other health professionals at Harvard Medical School.

The survey focused on four major categories of mental illness: anxiety disorders (such as panic and post-traumatic stress disorders); mood disorders (such as major depression and bipolar disease); impulse control disorders (such as attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder); and substance abuse.

Almost half of Americans meet the criteria for such an illness at some point in their lives, the survey found. Most cases are mild and probably do not require treatment. But every year about 6 percent of adults are so seriously affected that they cannot perform even routine activities for periods averaging three months. Because schizophrenia, autism, and some other severe and relatively common disorders were not included, actual prevalence rates are somewhat higher, Kessler said.

Comorbidity -- the simultaneous occurrence of two or more illnesses -- is common, the survey found. Nearly half of people with one mental disorder met the criteria for two or more. That's a problem because mental health services are usually geared toward one illness or another.

"Our findings highlight the importance of integrating treatments, of treating the people instead of the disorder," said NIMH investigator Kathleen Ries Merikangas.

The fraction of the population treated for mental illness over a 12-month period has grown to 17 percent from 13 percent a decade ago -- a sign, perhaps, that advertisements for antidepressants and other drugs are working, and the stigma of being treated is decreasing.

But most of those affected receive either no help or are being treated by nonmedical providers or nonspecialists, whose care typically fails to meet minimal standards of adequacy, Kessler said.

It is not clear why Americans have such high rates of mental illness, but cultural factors clearly play a role. Immigrants quickly increase their risk of mental health problems, especially if they do not live in native ethnic communities. Minorities also tend to have lower levels of mental health problems despite lower economic status, suggesting that the social support they provide each other is protective.

[BigBadBrian]

One-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental illness within the past year, and fully a quarter of those had a "serious" disorder that significantly disrupted their ability to function day to day, according to the largest and most detailed survey of the nation's mental health, published yesterday.



That's OK, Sesh. That 25% still only equals about half of our Democrats.

God only knows what figure your tiny little island nation will come out to if you're the typical Scot. :gulp:

[Seshmeister]

Yeah but we get free treatment. :)

[hideyoursheep]

Hey, leave your family out of this discussion!

Go fuck yourself.

END OF DISCUSSION






Now seriously, Brainless, what is it the teabaggers want? You said "lower taxes and more of a voice in Washington"?

Lower than what, Brian? Isn't the real issue who is spending our money, not HOW it's being spent? Where were these guys 7-8 years ago?


That's what I thought. :talktothehand:

[hideyoursheep]

That's OK, Sesh. That 25% still only equals about half of our Democrats.. ...and ALL of the so-called conservatives.


God only knows what figure your tiny little island nation will come out to if you're the typical Scot. :gulp:

You can't dis the Scots like that, Brian. They made a major sperm donation to this country.:biggrin:


And don't pretend you aren't wearing a kilt when you post. We all know.

[hideyoursheep]

Brian ran off like a bitch...damn.

[BigBadBrian]

Brian ran off like a bitch...damn.


Go fuck yourself.

END OF DISCUSSION



Who ran off, hideyourbrain? Seems like it was you. :biggrin:

[BigBadBrian]

Where did you go, hideyourbrain? To collect your unemployment benefits? Foodstamp line, right? Or to get on welfare? Which one, hmmm?

[Nickdfresh]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36528044

NYT: "Tea party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public,"

They also tend to be very confused, older white people apparently. From the MSNBC article:


And while most Republicans say they are “dissatisfied” with Washington, Tea Party supporters are more likely to classify themselves as “angry.”
...
Similarities to general public
In some ways, Tea Party supporters look like the general public. For instance, despite their allusions to Revolutionary War-era tax protesters, most describe the amount they paid in taxes this year as “fair.” Most send their children to public schools, do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost. They are actually more likely than the general public to have returned their census forms, despite some conservative leaders urging a boycott.

So, WTF are they so "angry" about? It's all about perception, and bullshit. :)

[Nickdfresh]

We were reading United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441. And all of the previous resolutions, while thinking to ourselves what an idiot Saddam was for not complying with the international community.

"a United Nations Security Council resolution adopted unanimously by the United Nations Security Council on November 8, 2002, offering Iraq under Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations"....

It's fun when people hypocritically and selectively give a fuck about U.N. resolutions. :)

What about the part of U.N. weapons inspectors never finding real evidence of WMDs during the run up to the Gulf War Part Deux?...

[ELVIS]

Yeah but we get free treatment. :)

Free ??

Who pays for it ??

[sadaist]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/06/AR2005060601651.html

Study: U.S. Leads In Mental Illness, Lags in Treatment




This is news? We've been following Eddie Van Halen for more than a quarter of a century and watched it take place before our naked steaming eyes (and ears unfortunately).

The last piece of "inspiration" we heard from this world class musician was titled Two Burritos & A Root Beer Float. That explains it all.

[BigBadBrian]

It's fun when people hypocritically and selectively give a fuck about U.N. resolutions. :)

What about the part of U.N. weapons inspectors never finding real evidence of WMDs during the run up to the Gulf War Part Deux?...

Scott Ritter....'nuff said...he was busy looking for 13 year-old Iraqi girls.

:doggystyle:

[BigBadBrian]

From the MSNBC article:


:lmao:

[jhale667]

:lmao:

More like your new avatar = :lmao:

[kwame k]

No, I think you need to read your own quote again, Mensa.

OK, Forrest I'll try and dumb this down for you even more.........

California State University, let's look at the middle word here and put on our thinking caps, shall we. State hmmmm, why would they put that word in the middle like that Forrest? Might it be a publicly funded school by the State of California?

Let's make a mental leap here, Forrest.........
"This is not about Sarah Palin," Brown said in a prepared statement Tuesday. "The issues are public disclosure and financial accountability in organizations embedded in state-run universities."

Go lay down for an hour and see if this information sinks in, Forrest.

[kwame k]

Scott Ritter....'nuff said...he was busy looking for 13 year-old Iraqi girls.

:doggystyle:

That may be true but Hans Blix was looking for WMD's and was in charge of looking for WMD's and found none but we can't trust someone from Sweden to be neutral now can we.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

quick sidestep here, kwame, waddaya think about the drummer Zoltan?

[kwame k]

The dude playing with Vince Neil or Dr Zoltan, the electronic/programmer drummer?

[Blackflag]

Similarities to general public
In some ways, Tea Party supporters look like the general public. For instance, despite their allusions to Revolutionary War-era tax protesters, most describe the amount they paid in taxes this year as “fair.” Most send their children to public schools, do not think Sarah Palin is qualified to be president, and, despite their push for smaller government, think that Social Security and Medicare are worth the cost. They are actually more likely than the general public to have returned their census forms, despite some conservative leaders urging a boycott.



So, WTF are they so "angry" about? It's all about perception, and bullshit. :)

Without more information, I'd say they're ok with the amount of taxes they paid this year and ok with some of the things the federal government spends money on.

That doesn't account for the billions of dollars that the taxpayers are in debt for, but is not reflected in their tax bill. So it's disingenuous to ask if you're ok with the amount of tax you paid, when the bulk of your obligation isn't reflected in your tax bill.

It also doesn't account for all the shit the federal government spends money on, but they don't agree with. Again, disingenuous to ask if you're ok with social security, then equate that with being ok with what the federal government spends money on...when most of what the fed spends money on is not SS and medicare. Ask them if they're ok with the military spending, the bank bailouts, this cash giveaway to the insurance companies, etc. Because that's the majority of the budget right there.

That's what most hilarious about the people who proudly pay their taxes and support higher tax rates. They sit there and say, 'you should be glad to pay your taxes - we need better health care!!' Well, your money doesn't go to pay for health care. It pays for Afghanistan and Goldman Sachs. Only a fucking fool would pay taxes for that.

I think that's what they're probably pissed about, and not social security.

[jhale667]

I think that's what they're probably pissed about, and not social security.

Don't forget the whole "black guy running the country" thing more of their ranks than they're willing to admit are upset about too...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The dude playing with Vince Neil or Dr Zoltan, the electronic/programmer drummer?

the dude playin' with neil

[Kristy]

Where did you go, hideyourbrain? To collect your unemployment benefits? Foodstamp line, right? Or to get on welfare? Which one, hmmm?

If any were true hideyoursheep would still be above the fray of you living in your parents basement sponging off of them like the true parasite you are.

[Blackflag]

Don't forget the whole "black guy running the country" thing more of their ranks than they're willing to admit are upset about too...

If they're like me, the only color they care about is green. So get over yourself.

A majority of the country voted for this guy, and didn't care if he was black. Unfortunately, he's cornholing them all now.

[jhale667]

If they're like me, the only color they care about is green. So get over yourself.

After you...


A majority of the country voted for this guy, and didn't care if he was black.

They're the vocal minority that DIDN'T, and does. And if they were really about taxes, more than 2% of them surveyed would know that their taxes have gone DOWN under Obama...

[Blackflag]

They're the vocal minority that DIDN'T, and does. And if they were really about taxes, more than 2% of them surveyed would know that their taxes have gone DOWN under Obama...

You're easily distracted.

A) They have valid points about the government...but you must ignore them, because they're racists!! They don't hate taxes, they just hate black people!! [ignore the deficit, don't look behind the curtain]

They said they were ok with the amount of tax they paid. So that's not the issue, is it?

B) Your taxes have gone down! Everything is fine! No problems here... [ignore the deficit, don't look behind the curtain]

[jhale667]

PUH-LEEZ. Where was your [ignore the deficit, don't look behind the curtain] mantra for the last 8 years, dipshit?

[kwame k]

the dude playin' with neil

That guy's been around forever and he's one hell of a showman!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

thanks, ok, carry on with..........politics.

[jhale667]

Taxes lowest in 60 years, thanks to Democrats and Obama

I'm sure the teabaggers in DC today will be thanking Obama and the Democratic Congress for overcoming GOP obstructionism and lowering taxes to their lowest level in 60 years?

On April 15, after laboring through their taxes, many Americans may be asking if the president meant what he said. More than three quarters of Americans, according to a CBS News/ New York Times poll released that same month, thought the Obama administration has either kept taxes the same for most Americans or increased them. The latest CBS News/ New York Times poll released yesterday shows that as many as 34 percent of Americans think Mr. Obama raised taxes.

Today, thousands of Tea Partiers will descend on Washington to declare they've been "Taxed Enough Already." Yesterday's poll found that 64 percent of Tea Party supporters think the administration has raised taxes -- a finding that might leave Democrats banging their heads against their desks.

"The American people need to be reminded that 98 percent of Americans got a tax cut last year," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday.

Reid was referring to the impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as the stimulus -- essentially, the only Obama policy to really impact people's 2009 tax returns. In fact, tax refunds reached an all-time high this year in part because of the stimulus, the president said in his weekly address on Saturday. Meanwhile, taxes are at their lowest levels in 60 years, according to William Gale, co-director of the Tax Policy Center and director of the Retirement Security Project at the Brookings Institution.

"The relation between what is said in the tax debate and what is true about tax policy is often quite tenuous," Gale told Hotsheet. "The rise of the Tea Party at at time when taxes are literally at their lowest in decades is really hard to understand."

The misconception is largely due to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, living in their alternate reality and sharing it with their audience of millions of incredulous conservatives. But it's also a failure of Democrats to sell their accomplishments.

98 percent of Americans got tax cuts. The richest two percent, well, they didn't. The teabaggers, doing the bidding of America's richest elite, will remain outraged about that injustice. So they are always welcome to send their record-high tax refunds to Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly. That way, they can prove once and for all that they are not all sound and ignorant fury.

Or are they more concerned about the deficit? If so, they are always free to tear up that refund check, doing their part to lower America's deficit.

Actions! They should would speak louder than their angry, uninformed words.


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[hideyoursheep]

Who ran off, hideyourbrain? Seems like it was you. :biggrin:

Oh, and an hour AFTER I logout, you come back. :rolleyes:


Where did you go, hideyourbrain? To collect your unemployment benefits? Foodstamp line, right? Or to get on welfare? Which one, hmmm?

:lol:

What does it say under my av? I don't think Sarge takes food stamps.

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[kwame k]

I guess all the tea baggers must make over $200,000 to $250,000 a year because when Bush's tax cuts for the rich expire next year...........that must be the taxes they are rallying against.

Like everyone else has stated, taxes have gone down under Obama...........I'm not for the tax cuts because at some point we have to start paying back the money we owe to the Communists and to pay for the other social programs that we have. At some point our taxes will have to go up and since it was on our watch that we didn't stop the unlawful war in Iraq and didn't stop the raping of our banks/mortgages/Wall Street, I'd rather pony up some money now than saddle our kids/grandkids with this burden.

Fuck if the Corporations just PAID their taxes we'd have billions right there!

[Blackflag]

PUH-LEEZ. Where was your [ignore the deficit, don't look behind the curtain] mantra for the last 8 years, dipshit?

I was right here, complaining about these wars and the banks bailouts when it was Bush. So your weak-ass "Dem/Repuke" bullshit is misdirected.

[hideyoursheep]

Always a way to stop wasteful spending...as long as there are lobbyists, it will never happen, under ANY administration.


Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go stand in the welfare line....Brian is holding my place. :biggrin:

[Blackflag]

Taxes lowest in 60 years, thanks to Democrats and Obama

It's a shell game, dumbass. If you cut taxes, but increase spending, it's a net increase. You don't actually fall for that, do you? Somebody is going to have to pay that tax bill eventually.

Stop cradling the government's balls in your arms for a minute and look at things objectively.

[jhale667]

So your weak-ass "Dem/Repuke" bullshit is misdirected.

Doesn't change the fact that there WASN'T a deficit when Bush took office, dude.

Your entire life is misdirected...:hee:

[sadaist]

. ..... their taxes have gone DOWN under Obama...


Not if they smoke cigarettes.

[Blackflag]

Doesn't change the fact that there WASN'T a deficit when Bush took office, dude.

BFD. Is that going to make your ass feel any better when China forecloses on the country?

You might as well ignore Bush and your mancrush Obama, and say, "there wasn't a deficit until Goldman Sachs took office."

Cunt.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Not if they smoke cigarettes.

drink alcohol, consume petroleum products, own property, have an income......

[kwame k]

You could blame your State for that, too.........the tobacco companies also raised their prices to offset the cost of the lawsuits.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You could blame your State for that, too.........the tobacco companies also raised their prices to offset the cost of the lawsuits.

agreed.

[Guitar Shark]

I was right here, complaining about these wars and the banks bailouts when it was Bush. So your weak-ass "Dem/Repuke" bullshit is misdirected.

Are you sure this wasn't during your self-imposed banning? "I'm super busy; please ban me so I don't waste my time posting here" :D

[Nickdfresh]

Scott Ritter....'nuff said...he was busy looking for 13 year-old Iraqi girls.

:doggystyle:

He could never be a good Republican congressman or party chair. He'd have to be into boys for that...

And irregardless of his alleged weird shit with young girls, you're wrong about everything else as he:

-Resigned from the U.N. in 1998 out of frustration for their policies which he thought lacked toughness towards Iraq

-Actually was more in the Neocon view that Saddam was trying to reacquire WMDs, he only advocated a policy of engagement over forceful removal of the Baathists from Iraq

[Blackflag]

Could be. It could have been in my head, too - I sit around all angry mumbling to myself on the subway a lot.

[kwame k]

Thought I seen you in the subway the other day ;)


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[jhale667]

Are you sure this wasn't during your self-imposed banning? "I'm super busy; please ban me so I don't waste my time posting here" :D

:lmao:



Not if they smoke cigarettes.

That's what they get for smoking cancer-sticks. :baaa:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Could be. It could have been in my head, too - I sit around all angry mumbling to myself on the subway a lot.

c'mon, subways...in or just outside of yakima? you must mean the sammich shop, right:baaa:

[Blackflag]

The Yakima public transportation system is state-of-the-art. Just one of the many things it has going for it.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The Yakima public transportation system is state-of-the-art. Just one of the many things it has going for it.

gladly paid for by your taxes?

[Blackflag]

Yeah. But state, not federal.

This is a map of the Yakima underground. Mind the gap.

http://thm-a04.yimg.com/nimage/c6a1944d0debae1e

[binnie]

Always looked on the bright side of life,

De-dum, de-dum, de-dum-de-dum-de-dum..........

[PETE'S BROTHER]

all done without any federal funding? cool. map is pretty tiny tho, hard to read.
is that map to scale?

[Blackflag]

all done without any federal funding? cool.

All done with a tax on legalized meth and weed. So the tweakers walk around like they own the thing.



map is pretty tiny tho, hard to read.
is that map to scale?

Dude, it's so big I can ride the train to any farm in a four county radius and only have to walk past a few cows.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Saweet

[jhale667]

All done with a tax on legalized meth and weed. So the tweakers walk around like they own the thing.



Dude, it's so big I can ride the train to any farm in a four county radius and only have to walk past a few cows.

Too bad the entire state's livestock population has already taken out restraining orders against you... :hee:


Seriously, though - I'm all for legalized weed (essentially harmless) but METH? :confused:

[BigBadBrian]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/4/15/857581/-Taxes-lowest-in-60-years,-thanks-to-Democrats-and-Obama?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29&utm_content=Twitter

LMMFAO!!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[jhale667]

Shouldn't you be watching your TiVo'ed "Fucked and Friends" archive about now BigBitchBrie? :hee:

[BigBadBrian]

If any were true ....blah blah blah

Listen Krusty, get off daddy's computer and go help your mom make dinner like a good little girl, OK? Thanks baby!

[BigBadBrian]

Shouldn't you be watching your TiVo'ed "Fucked and Friends" archive about now BigBitchBrie? :hee:

You literally don't know what to say when DoucheMachine isn't here, do you? :biggrin:

[jhale667]

You literally don't know what to say when DoucheMachine isn't here, do you? :biggrin:

You literally don't have a BRAIN IN YOUR HEAD, do you? :lmao:
This means SO MUCH coming from the neocon cum-dumpster that just made the sexist comment to a female poster...typical repuke asshole.

Stupid.

[BigBadBrian]

You literally don't have a BRAIN IN YOUR HEAD, do you? :lmao:
This means SO MUCH coming from the neocon cum-dumpster that just made the sexist comment to a female poster...typical repuke asshole.

Stupid.

Need a tissue? :cry2:

[kwame k]

Need a tissue? :cry2:

3 B's theme songs.......

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[Blackflag]

How creative. Never heard that insult before.

[kwame k]

Glad I could help out........

[BigBadBrian]

Glad I could help out........

In your avatar....I'll bet you drum like a girl. You certainly LOOK like a girl, albeit an ugly one. :killer:

[kwame k]

Sorry, I'm taken but I think Gar or ButtFag are available.

[Blackflag]

In your avatar....I'll bet you drum like a girl. You certainly LOOK like a girl, albeit an ugly one. :killer:

Tricked out tranny, maybe?

[kwame k]

Tricked out tranny, maybe?

Hey, it's a free country but truth be told........it kinda creeps me out that you two are having fantasies about me :barf:

[BigBadBrian]

Tricked out tranny, maybe?

Yeah...THAT'S IT!!!!! A new discovery has been made! :lmao:

[Blackflag]

Let's be serious. The only reason you'd post a picture of yourself on the internet is to troll for dudes. You are a gross little man.

[BigBadBrian]

Let's be serious. The only reason you'd post a picture of yourself on the internet is to troll for dudes. You are a gross little man.

:lmao:

[kwame k]

Yeah...THAT'S IT!!!!! A new discovery has been made! :lmao:

You just discovered that your gay?

Congrats for coming out of the closet :beers8:

[Anonymous]

What the... why are Blackfag & Brian jacking each other off while looking at Kwame?

Get out a' there, K... FAST!

Cheers! :bottle:

[kwame k]

dupe.......

[PETE'S BROTHER]

You just discovered that your gay?

Congrats for coming out of the closet :beers8:

another discovery made without space exploration. that is progress.

[kwame k]

Let's be serious. The only reason you'd post a picture of yourself on the internet is to troll for dudes. You are a gross little man.

Am I gross or is it that you are secretly disgusted with yourself for being the thing you abhor the most........gay.

So it's a 3-way between you, Gar and BBB. I'm just guessing but you're the bitch in the relationship, right.

[kwame k]

another discovery made without space exploration. that is progress.

I'm sure they were exploring Uranus when they made that discovery.........


Wait......not your anus.......

[jhale667]

Am I gross or is it that you are secretly disgusted with yourself for being the thing you abhor the most........gay.

So it's a 3-way between you, Gar and BBB. I'm just guessing but you're the bitch in the relationship, right.

The GHEY is strong with those three. So's the B.O. one imagines...

They're all man-crushing HARD...

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6383/mancrushmeterda0.jpg

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I'm sure they were exploring Uranus when they made that discovery.........


Wait......not your anus.......

damn skippy

[jhale667]

damn skippy

:lmao:

[knuckleboner]

Yes you are.


You're painting with a rather broad brush, kb. Again, you don't know many, if any at all, of these people.

but a fair one. i've had enough discussions with more than enough tea party attendees. again, those attending tea party events do NOT represent every person who dissents with the government's actions.




The Dems are getting themselves into hot water when they start marginalizing Joe Sixpack's right to dissent.

look, here's the deal. dissent is fine. but the tea partiers do not = the dissent. they represent only a small minority, even of the dissenters. (18% of the population.)

dissenters may be very well rational. and many are. they can rationally oppose the health care. they can rationally oppose the stimulus. they can rationally oppose pretty much anything. the tea partiers, by and large, are not rational.


seriously. like i said, their taxes are lower. bush started huge deficits. they get a voice in washington every 2 years. but they ignore ALL of those facts in order to stick with their mantra. that makes them irrational. and honestly, if they want to keep blindly ignoring facts, then their opinions probably should be marginalized.

[hideyoursheep]

Listen Krusty, get off daddy's computer and go help your mom make dinner like a good little girl, OK? Thanks baby!


That sounds sexist. Almost Taliban-like.


Just wait until I tell Sarah Palin.

[hideyoursheep]

You literally don't know what to say when DoucheMachine isn't here, do you? :biggrin:

Oh, he's here. He just doesn't care enough about you to engage.

Have you ever posted anything based on fact?

[BigBadBrian]

but a fair one. i've had enough discussions with more than enough tea party attendees. again, those attending tea party events do NOT represent every person who dissents with the government's actions.

look, here's the deal. dissent is fine. but the tea partiers do not = the dissent. they represent only a small minority, even of the dissenters. (18% of the population.)

dissenters may be very well rational. and many are. they can rationally oppose the health care. they can rationally oppose the stimulus. they can rationally oppose pretty much anything. the tea partiers, by and large, are not rational.


seriously. like i said, their taxes are lower. bush started huge deficits. they get a voice in washington every 2 years. but they ignore ALL of those facts in order to stick with their mantra. that makes them irrational. and honestly, if they want to keep blindly ignoring facts, then their opinions probably should be marginalized.

Do the Tea Party people represent all dissenters? No, of course not. Are they typical of the average dissenter? An emphatic YES!!!

Bush put the wheels in motion for escalating the deficit. There is no doubt about that and most fiscal conservatives weren't too happy about that. But Obama is hitting the accelerator hard on that runaway train.

Dissenters to Bush were called patriots. Dissenters to Obama are called racists and nazis. That's the State-Run Media (SRM) for you. It's also a typical play out of the Democratic Party playbook: when you can't dispute the conservatives, call them names and insult them.

Face it, you're just not used to, and definitely not comfortable with, this level of dissent. It scares you because the Dems are in serious trouble in November. Republican turnout in November will be much higher than usual for a mid-term election while Democrats will turnout in their usual numbers.

Even if the Republicans don't take control of the House or Senate, they will be much closer to being equal and Obama will never again get any legislation through using that assinine method used to pass Obamacare. Maybe then he'll actually use some of that bipartisanship he so promised.

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[knuckleboner]

Do the Tea Party people represent all dissenters? No, of course not. Are they typical of the average dissenter? An emphatic YES!!!

Bush put the wheels in motion for escalating the deficit. There is no doubt about that and most fiscal conservatives weren't too happy about that. But Obama is hitting the accelerator hard on that runaway train.

Dissenters to Bush were called patriots. Dissenters to Obama are called racists and nazis. That's the State-Run Media (SRM) for you. It's also a typical play out of the Democratic Party playbook: when you can't dispute the conservatives, call them names and insult them.

Face it, you're just not used to, and definitely not comfortable with, this level of dissent. It scares you because the Dems are in serious trouble in November. Republican turnout in November will be much higher than usual for a mid-term election while Democrats will turnout in their usual numbers.

Even if the Republicans don't take control of the House or Senate, they will be much closer to being equal and Obama will never again get any legislation through using that assinine method used to pass Obamacare. Maybe then he'll actually use some of that bipartisanship he so promised.

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/varv04152010a20100415042759.jpg

dude, i'm not afraid of dissent. i mean, let's be honest, was i ranting and raving during the bush administration when the republicans controlled both houses? and more importantly, was i screaming that my voice wasn't being heard because i voted for democrats and republicans were in office?

because that IS what the tea party attendees are doing. they're perfectly able to have the opinion that taxes should be lower and that there should be less government. there is nothing irrational about that opinion.

but if there voice wasn't heard in the past, it's notbody's fault but their. ask yourself, how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the presidential primary? he was probably the closest to their voice. how many of them yelled and screamed at bush in 2004 to quit raising the deficit? and i know, there were many conservatives who were "uncomfortable" with bush's spending. but still, did they organize, or just grouse to themselves and then decide once the country voted for democrats to get together and claim their voice wasn't heard?

again, let me be clear: agreeing with the ideals of less taxes and less government is fine. but the tea party attendees go farther. they DO largely ignore the past. they ignore their own previous apathy, and for the most part they're blaming democrats for the current fiscal situation.

i equate it to this: protesting the iraqi war was not irrational by any means. but the ciny sheehan crowd certainly was. (i'll give her a pass, because you're not expected to be fully rational after burying a son.) still, the rest of them were not. same thing here.

[Blackflag]

dude, i'm not afraid of dissent. i mean, let's be honest, was i ranting and raving during the bush administration when the republicans controlled both houses? and more importantly, was i screaming that my voice wasn't being heard because i voted for democrats and republicans were in office?

because that IS what the tea party attendees are doing. they're perfectly able to have the opinion that taxes should be lower and that there should be less government. there is nothing irrational about that opinion.

but if there voice wasn't heard in the past, it's notbody's fault but their. ask yourself, how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the presidential primary? he was probably the closest to their voice. how many of them yelled and screamed at bush in 2004 to quit raising the deficit? and i know, there were many conservatives who were "uncomfortable" with bush's spending. but still, did they organize, or just grouse to themselves and then decide once the country voted for democrats to get together and claim their voice wasn't heard?

again, let me be clear: agreeing with the ideals of less taxes and less government is fine. but the tea party attendees go farther. they DO largely ignore the past. they ignore their own previous apathy, and for the most part they're blaming democrats for the current fiscal situation.

i equate it to this: protesting the iraqi war was not irrational by any means. but the ciny sheehan crowd certainly was. (i'll give her a pass, because you're not expected to be fully rational after burying a son.) still, the rest of them were not. same thing here.

Is your point that, if they weren't protesting yesterday, they shouldn't be protesting today? They missed their window, or something? That's crazy. I'm glad somebody is pulling themselves away from American Idol long enough to protest.

[FORD]

Is your point that, if they weren't protesting yesterday, they shouldn't be protesting today? They missed their window, or something? That's crazy. I'm glad somebody is pulling themselves away from American Idol long enough to protest.

No, it's more like they're protesting about things now that they SHOULD have been protesting then. Obama didn't tank the economy, the BCE did. That's just reality.

Now you can argue whether his response to the situation has been correct or not. I'm certainly no fan of Larry $ummers or Timmy the Keebler Elf myself, and I would have much preferred an FDR style approach to the fucked up economy than more Clintonian DLC triangulation Repuke lite bullshit.

Fact is that shitty economic policy didn't take a break from 1993 - 2001, it was just managed better. Clinton was a better Republican than the BCE themselves. Obama, sadly, seems determined to follow that same road, or at least that's what he's done so far.

But you didn't see the teabaggers protesting Chimp. Or Poppy. Or Reagan. And when they protested Clinton, it was because he got his dick sucked, not because he allowed the repeal of Glass Steagal, or deregulated industry to the point where Rupert Murdoch, Clear Channel, and Time Warner were able to take over the media.

So what's different this time? The melanin content in the skin of the current White House occupant. And that's what is driving these lunatics.

[Blackflag]

No, it's more like they're protesting about things now that they SHOULD have been protesting then.

So that's the argument, then. Everybody missed the window where we were allowed to protest, and now we should all just shut up and get raped. Makes sense.

[Nickdfresh]

So that's the argument, then. Everybody missed the window where we were allowed to protest, and now we should all just shut up and get raped. Makes sense.

I think the basic argument is that they're retarded, biased, and politically incompetent assholes that are incapable of affecting real change because they're so easily swindled by pretenders and rhetoric....

[knuckleboner]

Is your point that, if they weren't protesting yesterday, they shouldn't be protesting today? They missed their window, or something? That's crazy. I'm glad somebody is pulling themselves away from American Idol long enough to protest.

no, not at all. but one of the main themes of those ATTENDING the tea party protests has been that they haven’t been listened to by those in power. and I’m saying that it’s their own fault. they’ve been apathetic in the past. or supported people who also were fiscally unsound.

to be honest, nothing that’s going on now hasn’t been going on before. deficit spending. government control (TARP was a bush program). so if you’re protesting now about how nobody ever listens to you, then you’re an idiot. if you’re saying, “we’ve reached the breaking point, and it’s time for a change,” then fair enough.

[Blackflag]

if you’re saying, “we’ve reached the breaking point, and it’s time for a change,” then fair enough.

Isn't that what they're saying? Neither of these political parties listens to its constituents. If they're saying they haven't been listened to in the past, I'm not sure that's false. None of us are listened to.

[thome]

Tea party = crazy .

Liberals attempting to do the same = concern for the betterment of mankind, getting involved to make a difference due to the oppression of the people by the "repukes" that have ruined the world .

I love the media spin around here.

crack me the fuukup

[kentuckyklira]

It's fun when people hypocritically and selectively give a fuck about U.N. resolutions. :)



True dat.

Where is all the outrage over all the UN resolutions Israel is currently ignoring?

[Seshmeister]

And remember these are just the ones that got through, there are hundreds that the US vetoed.

[BigBadBrian]

True dat.

Where is all the outrage over all the UN resolutions Israel is currently ignoring?

Because:

Israel = Good Guys

Islamofascists = Bad Guys

Israel ignores UN Resolutions because it can. Resolutions against Israel are just meaningless lip service from the UN.

[BigBadBrian]

I think the basic argument is that they're retarded, biased, and politically incompetent assholes that are incapable of affecting real change because they're so easily swindled by pretenders and rhetoric....

That's funny...that's what people usually say about Democrats. :gulp:

[BigBadBrian]

And remember these are just the ones that got through, there are hundreds that the US vetoed.

As it should have. You and Adolf are anti-semites.

[Nickdfresh]

Because:

Israel = Good Guys

Islamofascists = Bad Guys

Israel ignores UN Resolutions because it can. Resolutions against Israel are just meaningless lip service from the UN.

Yeah, okay. It's fun when Israel sells U.S. military and commercial technology to China for a pittance of the billion$ it took to develop, spies on us, and generally acts like an Apartheid-lite state. Oh, BTW, they're at least partially, indirectly responsible for said "Islamofascists"...

[knuckleboner]

Isn't that what they're saying? Neither of these political parties listens to its constituents. If they're saying they haven't been listened to in the past, I'm not sure that's false. None of us are listened to.

if you're not listened to, there's nobody to blame but yourself. how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the primary?

for the most part, these are people who would never, in a million years vote democrat (not that there's anything wrong with that), and i find it somewhat telling that they claim they're being ignored when the democrats are in power. losing an election does not mean you've been ignored. at the same time, THEY'VE ignored the deficit spending since 2001.

when the republicans started deficit spending, and the democrats attacked them for it (to be fair, i'm sure for mostly political reasons) did the tea partiers stand up and at least agree? nope. they had the opportunity to at least make their voice heard on that issue but they didn't.


so are they allowed to protest now? absolutely. are they allowed to take on the role of defiant martyrs and claim they were ignored? no.

[Seshmeister]

Because:

Israel = Good Guys

Islamofascists = Bad Guys

Israel ignores UN Resolutions because it can. Resolutions against Israel are just meaningless lip service from the UN.

You=Intellectual Child with access to the Internet

[kentuckyklira]

As it should have. You and Adolf are anti-semites.

The response of a no-brainer!

Criticize Israel and you´re an anti-semite.

Come from Germany and have a different point of view and you´re a Nazi.

If ignorance was bliss you´d be the happiest man alive!

[hideyoursheep]

Why does BrainlessBrian sport avs of Obama 'shopped up like Hitler, then with the Soviet flag behind him?

The 2 countries were at war with each other. Makes no sense, BraindeadBrian. Unless you're subliminally telling us that YOU are at war with yourself.

[Blackflag]

if you're not listened to, there's nobody to blame but yourself. how many of those tea partiers voted for ron paul in the primary?

for the most part, these are people who would never, in a million years vote democrat (not that there's anything wrong with that), and i find it somewhat telling that they claim they're being ignored when the democrats are in power. losing an election does not mean you've been ignored. at the same time, THEY'VE ignored the deficit spending since 2001.

when the republicans started deficit spending, and the democrats attacked them for it (to be fair, i'm sure for mostly political reasons) did the tea partiers stand up and at least agree? nope. they had the opportunity to at least make their voice heard on that issue but they didn't.


so are they allowed to protest now? absolutely. are they allowed to take on the role of defiant martyrs and claim they were ignored? no.

Either the message has merit or it doesn't. I don't think it matters who the speaker voted for, or what they were doing a few years ago.

It's true that these people seem like total whackjobs. But I'm not sure I disagree with what they're saying.



"The government's been lying to people for years. Politicians make promises to get elected, and when they get elected, they don't follow through," says Cindy Wanto, 57, a registered Democrat from Nemacolin, Pa., who joined several thousand for a rally in Washington on April 15 — the tax filing deadline. "There's too much government in my business. It was a problem before Obama, but he's certainly not helping fix it."

Nearly 80 percent of Americans say they can't and they have little faith that the massive federal bureaucracy can solve the nation's ills

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_government_distrust

[BigBadBrian]

The response of a no-brainer!

Criticize Israel and you´re an anti-semite.

Come from Germany and have a different point of view and you´re a Nazi.



Truth hurts, huh? Your relatives persecuted Jews in Kristallnacht! Is that any better for you?

Actually the inflammatory accusations I make at you are no different than the ones American Patriots are having hurled at them.

Good day, Adolf. :gulp:

[BigBadBrian]

Why does BrainlessBrian sport avs of Obama 'shopped up like Hitler, then with the Soviet flag behind him?



Listen HideYourBrains, the pic of Barry with the flag behind him is a pic from his campaign, you daft oaf. The Hitler avatar was my last one. Try to keep up, Shortbus.

My next avatar will have Barry posing with his mentor Adolf, with maybe Josef and Chairman Mao thrown in for good measure.

I'm glad you're enjoying them.

[jhale667]

Listen HideYourBrains, the pic of Barry with the flag behind him is a pic from his campaign, you daft oaf. The Hitler avatar was my last one. Try to keep up, Shortbus.

My next avatar will have Barry posing with his mentor Adolf, with maybe Josef and Chairman Mao thrown in for good measure.

I'm glad you're enjoying them.

The fact that they show you to be an even bigger idiot with zero credibility than originally estimated IS quite enjoyable, yes.

[BigBadBrian]

The fact that they show you to be an even bigger idiot with zero credibility than originally estimated IS quite enjoyable, yes.

So mocking a Democratic President is off limits, huh?

You didn't seem to have a problem with people mocking a Republican President now did you?

You're just a damn hypocrite.

Now, go back to your guitar paint huffing. :biggrin:

[NightProwler]

So mocking a Democratic President is off limits, huh?

You didn't seem to have a problem with people mocking a Republican President now did you?

You're just a damn hypocrite.

Now, go back to your guitar paint huffing. :biggrin:

Anyone that dared to question bush was called "un-American" by the fox news talking heads and dick "5 deferments" cheney alleged that to question the president during a time of war was giving aid to the enemy.

[hideyoursheep]

So mocking a Democratic President is off limits, huh? Mocking is one thing, flat out lying is another, which you do quite often, BigBrainlessBrian.


You didn't seem to have a problem with people mocking a Republican President now did you? Not that he didn't earn it on his own or anything...Bush was a bottomless well of ignorance and mistakes..it was easy to make fun of him.


You're just a damn hypocrite. Look who's talking, Mr. Worried About Taxes Now that A Democratic President Is In Charge.


Now, go back to your guitar paint huffing. What's with the personal insults, Brainless? Fresh out of false information on BHO?

I can't wait until a Republican candidate is chosen...are there any left that have any credibility whatsoever?

[Guitar Shark]

I see BBB is doing nothing to change his reputation as an immature attention whore troll. Too bad. I was hoping the time off would have had a positive impact.

[kentuckyklira]

Truth hurts, huh? Your relatives persecuted Jews in Kristallnacht! Is that any better for you?

Actually the inflammatory accusations I make at you are no different than the ones American Patriots are having hurled at them.

Good day, Adolf. :gulp:

So,

I can call you a genocidal slave trading imperialist?

OK, I get it!

[knuckleboner]

Either the message has merit or it doesn't. I don't think it matters who the speaker voted for, or what they were doing a few years ago.

It's true that these people seem like total whackjobs. But I'm not sure I disagree with what they're saying.



"The government's been lying to people for years. Politicians make promises to get elected, and when they get elected, they don't follow through," says Cindy Wanto, 57, a registered Democrat from Nemacolin, Pa., who joined several thousand for a rally in Washington on April 15 — the tax filing deadline. "There's too much government in my business. It was a problem before Obama, but he's certainly not helping fix it."

Nearly 80 percent of Americans say they can't and they have little faith that the massive federal bureaucracy can solve the nation's ills

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_government_distrust

actually, i'm fine with the general message. i just really get annoyed at the revisionist history that is there for most of the events, saying that "they've been ignored forever." that's not the case, and it ignores at least part of the problem's cause. but, if they simply wanted to say that taxes have been too high for a long time, and that government has been too big for a long time, then fine. and if that's what you're saying, then fine. but it means that you are not that similar to a lot of the people attending a lot of these events.

[jhale667]

So mocking a Democratic President is off limits, huh?

When/if he starts a couple of illegal wars, destroys a budget surplus, makes a mockery of the constitution...mock away.


You didn't seem to have a problem with people mocking a Republican President now did you?

Sure didn't, mostly for the reasons listed above. Read them again, slowly.


You're just a damn hypocrite.

Clearly not. You, on the other hand -you're just my bitch. :hee:


Now, go back to your guitar paint huffing. :biggrin:

I don't paint my guitars, sorry. Go back to spanking it to your Glen Beck episode archive.

[Nickdfresh]

Why does BrainlessBrian sport avs of Obama 'shopped up like Hitler, then with the Soviet flag behind him?

The 2 countries were at war with each other. Makes no sense, BraindeadBrian. Unless you're subliminally telling us that YOU are at war with yourself.


The funny thing being that I recall BigBlandBrianne claiming that he was a student of the War on the Eastern Front (WWII)...

[Nickdfresh]

Truth hurts, huh? Your relatives persecuted Jews in Kristallnacht! Is that any better for you?

Actually the inflammatory accusations I make at you are no different than the ones American Patriots are having hurled at them.

Good day, Adolf. :gulp:

Don't forget how those "patriots" would have supported the right of IBM to sell punchcard machines to the Third Reich used to keep track of the Jews and other dissidents murdered in the Holocaust...

And that most self-identified "conservatives" of the WWII generation would have been isolationist and anti-War prior to Pearl Harbor...

[Nickdfresh]

So mocking a Democratic President is off limits, huh?

You didn't seem to have a problem with people mocking a Republican President now did you?

You're just a damn hypocrite.

Now, go back to your guitar paint huffing. :biggrin:

Nobody said it was "off-limits." I believe they basically said you're a juvenile, sophomoric ass-clown reveling in his ignorance...

[Satan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKiTRmr2Gk

[BigBadBrian]

The funny thing being that I recall BigBlandBrianne claiming that he was a student of the War on the Eastern Front (WWII)...

Your argument is illogical.

Anyway, I propose we have a thread on military history in the Frontline. There is one major rule: this thread would be for discussion and debating with no in flammatory crap. We have plenty of other threads for that. Also, no cut and paste from other sites. It has to be in your own words.

[Nickdfresh]

I already mod a military history site, but you can start whatever you want...

[jhale667]

I already mod a military history site, but you can start whatever you want...


Here's my prediction of how that thread will go: BlatheringBitchBrie will post, prattle on for a few, generally make an ass of himself... then Nick posts...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e318/Enigma9867/Stick%20Men/Owned.gif

3B's done. :hee:

[Blackflag]

"I play a military expert on the internet, so I must know more than you!!!"

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/spad_moderator.jpg

[jhale667]

OK, that's funny.

[hambon4lif]

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[Nickdfresh]

"I play a military expert on the internet, so I must know more than you!!!"

http://www.sniffpetrol.com/wp-content/uploads/spad_moderator.jpg

You should either change your panties, or asked to be banned again. Because this place obviously doesn't agree with you and your insecurities. BTW, aren't you the asshole that claims he has lunch at CIA headquarters? Get fucked, Potsy...

BTW, I never asked to be modded (unlike you asking to be banned--like a needy bitch unable to control himself). I just was...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100426/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1772

Beck was blunt with Forbes Magazine when discussing his success. "I could give a flying crap about the political process," he deadpanned. "We're an entertainment company." Forbes said that Beck's company, Mercury Radio Arts, raked in $32 million from March 2009 to March 2010. That included $2 million from Fox News for his daily television show, $10 million for his daily radio show, $3 million for speaking events, $4 million from his online operation, and a whopping $13 million in print endeavors with Simon & Schuster (books and a magazine). Beck dominated the New York Times bestseller list in 2009, with three separate No. 1 books and a total of 3.5 million books sold.

[BigBadBrian]

The Hispanics are going to march on May 1 in quite a few cities. I wonder if the state-run media (msnbc, cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, nytimes, washpo, etc...) will have the balls to call them seditious or violent like they have the peaceful Tea Partiers.

[hideyoursheep]

Anyway, I propose we have a thread on military history in the Frontline. There is one major rule: this thread would be for discussion and debating with no in flammatory crap.

:lmao:


That would aut o matically ex clude you! :lmao:

[Seshmeister]

Talking of which I thought they were called the 'Tea Bagger' crazies. When did that change?

[BigBadBrian]

Talking of which I thought they were called the 'Tea Bagger' crazies. When did that change?

"Tea-bagging" is a term used by the Moonbats on the Left...it's what they like to do.

[ELVIS]

I already mod a military history site, but you can start whatever you want...

Link ??

[ELVIS]

The Hispanics are going to march on May 1 in quite a few cities. I wonder if the state-run media (msnbc, cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, nytimes, washpo, etc...) will have the balls to call them seditious or violent like they have the peaceful Tea Partiers.

No, my guess is they will be 'undocumented worker rallies'...

[jhale667]

The Hispanics are going to march on May 1 in quite a few cities. I wonder if the state-run media (msnbc, cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, nytimes, washpo, etc...) will have the balls to call them seditious or violent like they have the peaceful Tea Partiers.

Spitting on Congressmen and yelling racial epithets at them isn't exactly peaceful.

Ever think they might be calling the TEABAGGED that due to the fact that while they're not overtly violent (YET), they're certainly violent in their intent, showing up to their stupid little hate events ARMED to the teeth (bitching about gun rights in a public park that they could only HAVE their weapons in thanks to Obama last week was slightly hypocritical of them, doncha think) carrying signs with the Obama/Hilter/Commie bullshit, and veiled shit about "watering the tree of liberty with blood" NO, don't anyone dare comment on their violent intent. The rest of us aren't as stupid as you are, dude.

One wonders how many of the Teabagged (besides GAyR) signed up for the Facebook group praying for Obama's death? Think you'll see any of THAT shit in the immigrant protests? Doubtful.


LMAO @ "State-run meda" - Go watch some more FAUX, dude. :hee:

[BigBadBrian]

Spitting on Congressmen and yelling racial epithets at them isn't exactly peaceful.

These congressmen are lying. They weren't spit on and were not called racial names. No video or audio footage exists of such claim, and your beloved state run media was out in full force for this event. Don't believe everything your "sources" spoon-feed you, you candy-assed, whiny oaf.


The rest of us aren't as stupid as you are, dude. If stupid were a day, you'd be eternity. Even kwame amd bueno boob are smarter than you, but that's not saying much. I reached your current level of intelligence in,oh....say third grade. Good day, Mr Shortbus! Now go ask Lounge what you should say next, Pinocchio.

[Nickdfresh]

The Hispanics are going to march on May 1 in quite a few cities. I wonder if the state-run media (msnbc, cnn, abc, nbc, cbs, nytimes, washpo, etc...) will have the balls to call them seditious or violent like they have the peaceful Tea Partiers.

Funny you should mention that. But I heard a story on state-run radio (NPR), that statistically, Hispanics that are both long term illegal immigrants, and those that have recently obtained citizenship or green cards, are actually far more patriotic, appreciative of the U.S. system, and trust the gov't to a much greater extent (even under Bush) than the equivalent U.S. citizen demographic.

Why?

The reason being is that immigrants from other countries know what it's like to live in a truly lawless and corrupt state run by tin pots and various political parties acting like gangs. Unlike their teabagger counterparts, they've actually experienced the so-called teabaggers' worst nightmares and beyond, and have come to the conclusion that the U.S. system, with all it's failings, is still far better than most others and offers a chance of real security, hope for a better life, and entrepreneurship.

It just sort of makes many Americans seem like whiny, emo bitches that take their good fortune for granted and overreact to bullshit partisan hoopla based on fear-mongering pussies and charlatans and clearly intentional misperception.

[Seshmeister]

First generation immigrants are usually good for a country because you skim off all the hard working people with the motivation to get off their ass and move to where the work is.

Problems can start with the second generation though who have no memory of how bad things were back home and feel alienated in the new country. That isn't helped when they then also get shit from right wingers.

[jhale667]

These congressmen are lying. They weren't spit on and were not called racial names. No video or audio footage exists of such claim, and your beloved state run media was out in full force for this event. Don't believe everything your "sources" spoon-feed you, you candy-assed, whiny oaf.

WRONG - IT IS YOU WHO IS THE LYING SACK OF REPUKE SYMPATHIZING SHIT - I (and everyone else with a functioning brain-stem) saw the footage, you idiot. Try again. Lie some more!


If stupid were a day, you'd be eternity. Even kwame amd bueno boob are smarter than you, but that's not saying much. I reached your current level of intelligence in,oh....say third grade. Good day, Mr Shortbus! Now go ask Lounge what you should say next, Pinocchio.

The only mentally impaired, soft-spot having shortbus rider is YOU, hockey-helmet - face it. We all KNOW the real truth: You're a moron. You sit there and try to brag about how smart you are, but your posts reveal what a shallow, narrow-minded SIMP you fucking are. Please. Any of us can kick your ass with ONE LOBE OF OUR BRAINS TIED BEHIND OUR BACKS. Now STFU and go TiVo Glenn Beck, you pathetic, unoriginal, repetitive bitch. Maybe you can get some new material there.

[BigBadBrian]

Lie some more!

Now STFU and go TiVo Glenn Beck, you pathetic, unoriginal, repetitive bitch. Maybe you can get some new material there.

I knew I could get you to whine like the little cunt you are! Do it some more. C'mon go ahead...we're all waiting. you know you can't resist to reply to my post. You follow me all over the frontline. You know full well that replying to me is the bright spot of your miserable day. Do it, Pinocchio!!! :biggrin: