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Ally_Kat
05-02-2010, 12:39 AM
Police seal part of Times Square
Part of New York's Times Square has been sealed off as police investigate a suspicious vehicle.

The area was evacuated while a bomb squad was sent to check the contents of the vehicle on 45th Street, the New York Police Department said.

A spokesman for NYPD told the BBC that the bomb squad had discovered petrol and propane canisters inside.

Police were first alerted to a report of a car on fire, and streets between Seventh Avenue and Eighth were closed.

The bomb squad was removing the canisters from the vehicle, although it was not clear if they were for any illegal use.

Police refused to confirm a report by Reuters news agency that explosives had been found in a car.

An unnamed fire department officer told Reuters that a man was seen fleeing the scene.

Part of the popular tourist area in the centre of Manhattan has been cleared of pedestrians as officers investigate.

"There seemed to be smoke coming out of the car," NYPD Detective John Sweeney told AFP news agency.

"Now they're removing stuff out of the car to check what it is. No-one has determined it's a bomb."

Paul Bresson, head of the FBI's public affairs office at the bureau's Washington headquarters, told AP news agency that agents were on the scene.

A senior government official told AP the suspicious vehicle was a Nissan Pathfinder.

Part of Times Square was also sealed off last December after a report of a suspicious van, although nothing dangerous was found.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8656651.stm

Ally_Kat
05-02-2010, 12:43 AM
I cannot find any recent updated reports (that article is from over an hour ago), but the vehicle's plates do not trace back to it, there was a poorly constructed device that did not explode correctly, and a timer was found attached to the device. The materials found with the device were containers of propane, gasoline, and a black substance believed to be gunpowder.

Another Saturday night in the city.

sadaist
05-02-2010, 03:47 AM
The materials found with the device were containers of propane....

Maybe they should question this guy.


http://images.buddytv.com/articles/king-of-the-hill/images/hank-hill-1.jpg

Nitro Express
05-02-2010, 07:35 AM
Obviously an amature. Bombs aren't hard to make if you know what you are doing. Propane bombs are tricky because you have to have the right fuel to oxygen ratio or they just don't work. Gasoline will just burn. It has a high flash point and burns fast but rarely explodes. Cars crash full of gas all the time and some vehicles have propane canisters on them. The asshole would have done more damage if they just pegged the accelerator and drove through a big crowd of people. A rolling car going fast would do more damage than his stupid home made fuck up.

Seshmeister
05-02-2010, 05:04 PM
Why is this even on the news.

GAYEST BOMB EVER.

I've seen bigger cat farts.

jhale667
05-02-2010, 05:40 PM
Why is this even on the news.

GAYEST BOMB EVER.

I've seen bigger cat farts.


Slow news week?

CNN's running the big headline "TIMES SQUARE SCARE" :rolleyes:

At first they were trying to make a muslim connection because the vehicle was supposedly illegally parked near the Viacom building (since they own Comedy Central), but now they've got surveillance footage showing a white male in his 40s getting out of the SUV...so does that (and the rinky-dink construction of the device) point to the Teabagged?

Nitro Express
05-02-2010, 06:06 PM
Slow news week?

CNN's running the big headline "TIMES SQUARE SCARE" :rolleyes:

At first they were trying to make a muslim connection because the vehicle was supposedly illegally parked near the Viacom building (since they own Comedy Central), but now they've got surveillance footage showing a white male in his 40s getting out of the SUV...so does that (and the rinky-dink construction of the device) point to the Teabagged?

The Teabaggers are well organized and are taking the Martin Luther King/Ghandi approach of non-violence. I know a couple of people in that movement and they are not militant people at all so the this trying to blame them for some idiot is not with reality. Of course the Muslims are always there to blame. We know it's not the Irish. They make good bombs. LOL! I think it was some wanker working on his own.

Nitro Express
05-02-2010, 06:10 PM
What's done the most damage is all the media talking heads and politicians scrambling for attention over this incident. Seeing this makes people sick to their stomach and can cause nausea and barfing. I don't think the bomb made anyone puke.

chefcraig
05-02-2010, 06:26 PM
The materials found with the device were containers of propane, gasoline, and a black substance believed to be gunpowder.

With various media tripping all over themselves to get the details out there, the truth often gets left behind as facts only get in the way of a good story. In a couple of days when the furor has died down and the story get's bumped to the back of the paper, it just might be quietly mentioned (in small print in a tiny article on page 14D, right next to the obituaries) that this wasn't a bomb scare after all. What was found in the vehicle turned out to be a hibachi, some lighter fluid and a container of black pepper, along with some hamburger meat, rolls, potato salad, two cans of Bush's baked beans, a jar of pickles, some paper plates and plastic sporks. In other words, the police successfully thwarted some poor fucker's bbq and/or tailgating plans for Sunday afternoon's Yankees-White Sox game.

Seshmeister
05-02-2010, 06:47 PM
I've never seen a car bomb before that didn't even destroy the fucking car.

What a joke. I've driven cars worse than that one was after it 'exploded'

Nickdfresh
05-02-2010, 07:46 PM
The Teabaggers are well organized and are taking the Martin Luther King/Ghandi approach of non-violence. I know a couple of people in that movement and they are not militant people at all so the this trying to blame them for some idiot is not with reality. Of course the Muslims are always there to blame. We know it's not the Irish. They make good bombs. LOL! I think it was some wanker working on his own.


The teabaggers are anything but "well-organized." They're a fractured clusterfuck running the gambit of regular people with legitimate concerns to conspiracy fuckbags with a martyrdom fantasy...

Va Beach VH Fan
05-02-2010, 08:35 PM
Latest I've seen is that it had 100 pounds of fertilizer in the car that had no way of detonating....

Seshmeister
05-03-2010, 04:06 PM
The technical term is 0.5 Hagars.

Seshmeister
05-03-2010, 04:12 PM
I still can't believe that was first item on the news here, in the week of an election too.

Conversely I heard this week that when the London bombings which killed 50 people a few years ago happened, Fox News reported it like this.

'There has been a major terrorist attack in a European capital. We'll tell you which one after the break.'

jhale667
05-03-2010, 04:53 PM
Latest I've seen is that it had 100 pounds of fertilizer in the car that had no way of detonating....

Never mind detonators, I just heard the type of fertilizer used wasn't even explosive...oh yeah, this was a teabagger all right... :lmao:

Nickdfresh
05-04-2010, 08:51 AM
Latest I've seen is that it had 100 pounds of fertilizer in the car that had no way of detonating....

And it was the wrong kind of fertilizer, and the bomber had a 5150 CD in the car stereo continuously playing "When Love Walks In."

Nickdfresh
05-04-2010, 01:14 PM
Bomb suspect lost home to foreclosure
Chase sued him in September after he defaulted on $200,000 loan
msnbc.com staff and news service reports
updated 12:20 p.m. ET, Tues., May 4, 2010

The suspect in the Times Square bombing attempt defaulted on a $200,000 mortgage on his Connecticut home and the Shelton property is now in foreclosure, according to court records.

The foreclosure records show Faisal Shahzad took out the mortgage in 2004, and that he co-owned the home with a woman named Huma Mian.

Chase Home Finance LLC sued Shahzad, 30, in September to force the foreclosure. The case is pending in Milford Superior Court.

Former neighbors described him as a family man who reportedly said he worked on Wall Street.

After being forced to leave the Shelton home, Shahzad moved to a home in Bridgeport, Conn., and FBI agents searched that property early Tuesday, removing filled plastic bags. A bomb squad came and went without entering as local police and FBI agents gathered in the cordoned-off street.

Kept to themselves
In Shelton, former neighbor Brenda Thurman told the New York Times that Shahzad and his wife, Huma Mian, spoke limited English and kept mostly to themselves. The couple had two young children, a girl and a boy, she said.

Thurman told the newspaper that the couple had lived at the house at 119 Long Hill Avenue for about three years before moving out last year.

"He was a little bit strange," she told the Associated Press. "He didn't like to come out during the day."

Thurman showed reporters a laptop computer showing a Facebook photo of her neighbor, the New Haven Independent reported. The photo showed Shahzad with a woman and a child.

Another neighbor, Audrey Sokol, said she thought Shahzad worked in nearby Norwalk. Sokol, a teacher, said that he would wave and say hello and that he seemed normal to her.

The Shelton home is a two-story grayish-brown colonial with a sloping yard in a working-class neighborhood. On Tuesday morning, the home looked as if it had been unoccupied for a while.

Shahzad left around May 2009, Thurman said, and his wife followed about a month later.

Pakistani police told NBC News that Shahzad traveled from the United States to Karachi on July 3, 2009, returning to the United States on Aug. 8, 2009. During that time, he is believed to have traveled to Peshawar, a major city in the region bordering Afghanistan known as the Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

Claims to have acted alone
Shahzad was taken into custody late Monday by FBI agents and New York Police Department detectives at Kennedy Airport after boarding a flight to Dubai, according to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and other officials.

Investigators still don't have evidence that Shahzad is connected to the Pakistani Taliban or any foreign terror groups. Said one government source: "He's claimed to have acted alone, but these are things that have to be investigated."

Shahzad, who was born in Pakistan and became a U.S. citizen last year, had recently returned from another trip to Pakistan, this time for five months, according to law enforcement sources. They said his wife was in Pakistan. It is believed that Shahzad's Pakistani relatives reside in a middle-class neighborhood of Karachi called North Nazimabad, NBC said.

The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that Shahzad had ties to the United States dating back to at least December 1998, when he was granted an F-1 student visa. Immigration officials said then that there was “no derogatory information” on Shahzad in any database, a law enforcement official said in the Journal’s report.

Shahzad attended Southeastern University in Washington, D.C., then transferred in 2000 to the University of Bridgeport, Conn., where he received a B.A. in computer science and engineering, according to the Journal.

Video: Suspect arrested in NYC bomb plot
The U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan was handling the case and said Shahzad would appear in court Tuesday.

More than a dozen people with American citizenship or residency, like Shahzad, have been accused in the past two years of supporting or carrying out terrorism attempts on U.S. soil, cases that illustrate the threat of violent extremism from within the U.S.

Among them are Army Maj. Nidal Hasan, a U.S.-born Army psychiatrist of Palestinian descent, charged with fatally shooting 13 people last year at Fort Hood, Texas; Najibullah Zazi, a Denver-area airport shuttle driver who pleaded guilty in February in a plot to bomb New York subways; and a Pennsylvania woman Colleen LaRose, who authorities say became radicalized online as "Jihad Jane" and plotted to kill a Swedish artist whose work offended Muslims.

The Associated Press, Reuters and NBC's Carol Grisanti contributed to this report.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36934331/ns/us_news-security/?GT1=43001)

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 01:39 PM
I really wish somebody would get around to accessing the guy's motive in all of this. I mean for cryin' out loud, why park a bomb-mobile down the street from a showing of the Lion King? (Yeah, yeah. Avoid obvious "Evil Disney" commentary here.)

Nickdfresh
05-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Or the fact that he apparently hates sunlight. I mean, like maybe he's like a vampire. It's like "Twilight," "24", and the "X-Files" all rolled into one and shit...

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 01:45 PM
Plus, throw in the notion that he used a bunch of M-80s, useless alarm clocks and fertilizer that is guaranteed not to explode and you've got the basis for one of those unfunny comedies that Vince Vaughn shows up in every three months.

hambon4lif
05-04-2010, 02:12 PM
I really wish somebody would get around to accessing the guy's motive in all of this. ....supposedly it was retaliation against a fucking CARTOON!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/times-square-bomb-threat_n_561002.html

....for a quick second, I had to make sure I wasn't reading The Onion.

jhale667
05-04-2010, 02:21 PM
....supposedly it was retaliation against a fucking CARTOON!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/times-square-bomb-threat_n_561002.html

....for a quick second, I had to make sure I wasn't reading The Onion.


They've been trying to push that theory since day 1, due to the proximity to the Viacom building the vehicle had been parked...

Seshmeister
05-04-2010, 02:30 PM
I just heard a DA saying he was being charged with attempted use of a WMD.

Since when was a bag of shit and some alarm clocks a WMD? I thought a WMD had to be at least biological if not nuclear.

I'm surprised Bush and Blair didn't manage to find a bag of fertilizer anywhere in Iraq...

PETE'S BROTHER
05-04-2010, 04:23 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap_on_go_ot/us_times_square_training

he was trained to build shit bombs

Blaze
05-04-2010, 04:44 PM
The more that comes out the more I think these cult members are failing on purpose. One reasonable explanation is that there is an effort to get into the prison system, the federal prison system. I have known other gang systems to to become jailed for the lone reason of accessing sections of the jail facilities for various reasons.

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 06:15 PM
I have known other gang systems to to become jailed for the lone reason of accessing sections of the jail facilities for various reasons.

Yeah, and you saw it on FOX. It was the plot for the series Prison Break.

Blaze
05-04-2010, 06:27 PM
Actually, I worked a case where a male entered into the prison system to kill a specific inmate. During that briefing I learned that it is not uncommon for gang members to enter the prison system with a motive. Gangs and cults (similar creatures in my book) are good at motivation.
That is not far from reason when you observe the behavior patterns of low level corporate employees and their willingness to comply to changes in environment.

Blaze
05-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Perhaps the case was profiled. Do you have a link?

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Perhaps the case was profiled. Do you have a link?

To a tv show?

Blaze
05-04-2010, 06:37 PM
Well, yes. Why would there not be a link?

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 06:42 PM
Let Me Google That For You... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Prison+Break)

Blaze
05-04-2010, 06:47 PM
Thank you, however, your Google did not lead to the specific show you mentioned.
Arrange for clarification. :)

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 06:50 PM
Thank you, however, your Google did not lead to the specific show you mentioned.
Arrange for clarification. :)

Arrange this. I checked twice, the link is fine. Can you not grasp that the show is called PRISON BREAK, that was canceled in 2009?

Blaze
05-04-2010, 07:15 PM
I did not see a stream. Perhaps there is not documentation of the specific show you mention. And with lack of documentation claims of a episode is limited.

chefcraig
05-04-2010, 07:25 PM
For reasons known only to you, you appear to be acting purposely obtuse. The link works fine, but you apparently are too doped up to read properly. It wasn't an episode, it was the premise for the entire tv series. A man is sent to prison for murder, yet he is in truth innocent. His brother commits armed robbery, in order to be sent to prison in to help his brother escape and prove his innocence.

Here is another show that might interest you, as the title truly seems to describe your current mental state...

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3491/lostinspaceshow.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/lostinspaceshow.jpg/)

LoungeMachine
05-04-2010, 07:53 PM
I'm surprised Bush and Blair didn't manage to find a bag of fertilizer anywhere in Iraq...

They did.

Turned out to be Donald Rumsfeld napping.....

:gulp:

Blaze
05-04-2010, 09:52 PM
For reasons known only to you, you appear to be acting purposely obtuse. The link works fine, but you apparently are too doped up to read properly. It wasn't an episode, it was the premise for the entire tv series. A man is sent to prison for murder, yet he is in truth innocent. His brother commits armed robbery, in order to be sent to prison in to help his brother escape and prove his innocence.

Here is another show that might interest you, as the title truly seems to describe your current mental state...

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3491/lostinspaceshow.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/lostinspaceshow.jpg/)
There are numerous reasons people choose to go to prison that could be one, though your example is different than mine. I mention entering Prison to terminate a selected person, not to save a individual.

I have not watched "Lost in Space". Other than it is a show from long ago, I know nothing of it. Do you have any clips? Was it about a prisoner colony? ;) Joking aside, I have not seen nor remember the show enough to know its contents. :P

Nitro Express
05-04-2010, 10:08 PM
And it was the wrong kind of fertilizer, and the bomber had a 5150 CD in the car stereo continuously playing "When Love Walks In."

When Love Walks In is a devastating bomb!:biggrin: Sammy Hagar is the wrong fertilizer. That's a bunch of runny shit that never caught anything on fire. It's more like a sonic death ray than anything.

sadaist
05-05-2010, 07:27 AM
At first they were trying to make a muslim connection


This surprises you? Have you been asleep or just really high the last decade?




footage showing a white male in his 40s getting out of the SUV...so does that (and the rinky-dink construction of the device) point to the Teabagged?

How disappointed were you when you found out it was not a white male associated with the Tea Party? I'm sure mayor Bloomberg was. He lost his $.25 bet that it was someone mad about the health care bill. Hispanics protesting the Arizona immigration bill have been more violent, destructive, and disruptive in a week than the Tea Party has been in a year.

sadaist
05-05-2010, 07:29 AM
The teabaggers are anything but "well-organized." They're a fractured clusterfuck running the gambit of regular people with legitimate concerns to conspiracy fuckbags with a martyrdom fantasy...

But they all have one thing in common, right Nick?

sadaist
05-05-2010, 07:32 AM
Since when was a bag of shit and some alarm clocks a WMD?

Really?

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/national/1995/oklahoma_city_bombing/murrah2.jpg

Seshmeister
05-05-2010, 08:11 AM
That's not a WMD, that's just a bomb.

Or has the US been bombarding Iraq and Pakistan with WMD's for the last half dozen years?

Seshmeister
05-05-2010, 08:22 AM
Found the problem, the new US Criminal 'terrorist' Law has decided to define WMD's completely differently from what it historically meant or how it is defined everywhere else in the world.

They have ludicrously defined it as


Any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas—bomb, grenade, rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces [113 grams], missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce [7 grams], mine, or device similar to any of the devices described in the preceding clauses

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

A hand grenade is now a WMD!!!????

I wonder why they did that?

A cynical person might think it is so they can apply laws against people which look like they are absolute last resort Jack Bauer situations but are actually incredibly broad.

May your libertarians should think about that rather than trying to stop some poor people getting some free healthcare.

Seshmeister
05-05-2010, 08:27 AM
If the FBI are reading this I better warn you.

I HAVE A NUCLEAR DEATH RAY DESTRUCTION KILL KILL CHEMICAL BIOMURDER PISTOL.


http://img.macjams.com/song_art/4365_WaterPistol.jpg



I've had it since I was a kid but we are totally mental over here.

sadaist
05-05-2010, 08:54 AM
Found the problem, the new US Criminal 'terrorist' Law has decided to define WMD's completely differently from what it historically meant or how it is defined everywhere else in the world.

They have ludicrously defined it as



WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

A hand grenade is now a WMD!!!????

I wonder why they did that?

A cynical person might think it is so they can apply laws against people which look like they are absolute last resort Jack Bauer situations but are actually incredibly broad.

May your libertarians should think about that rather than trying to stop some poor people getting some free healthcare.

If that is the technical definition now, then we did find WMD's in Iraq.

I don't know about how large some of those measurements come out to. I used to go down to Baja and get M-80's & M-1000's, then blow up those little green plastic army guys that come 100 per $1 bag.

Seshmeister
05-05-2010, 08:56 AM
Still not the definition in the UN Resolutions but UN Resolutions aren't usually a top priority for the US government.

Igosplut
05-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Found the problem, the new US Criminal 'terrorist' Law has decided to define WMD's completely differently from what it historically meant or how it is defined everywhere else in the world.

They have ludicrously defined it a WMD!!!????



WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

A hand grenade is now a WMD!!!????

I wonder why they did that?

A cynical person might think it is so they can apply laws against people which look like they are absolute last resort Jack Bauer situations but are actually incredibly broad.

May your libertarians should think about that rather than trying to stop some poor people getting some free healthcare.

Welcome to the US government law division.....

Anybody with a gas grill propane bottle and some household items now has WMD right in the comforts of their own home.

hideyoursheep
05-06-2010, 05:07 AM
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BigBadBrian
05-06-2010, 10:23 AM
Still not the definition in the UN Resolutions but UN Resolutions aren't usually a top priority for the US government.

Nor should they be.

Nitro Express
05-07-2010, 12:24 AM
I've never seen a car bomb before that didn't even destroy the fucking car.

What a joke. I've driven cars worse than that one was after it 'exploded'

He needed some bomb lessons from the Irish.

Nitro Express
05-07-2010, 12:28 AM
If you are the type who is going to commit mass murder with a bomb, you don't exactly give a shit about the law.

Hardrock69
05-07-2010, 10:50 AM
The guy who is changing his shirt in the video is not the guy they arrested. The guy in the video is skinnier, and is bald.

Something funky going on here:

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chefcraig
05-07-2010, 10:58 AM
No kidding. Did you notice the person that posted the clip (martinasanchez95 (http://www.youtube.com/user/martinasanchez95)) put the blame on Israel? "To see the clear cut evidence of Jewish involvement in this psychological terror operation..." Huh? http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-718.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Scared-Smileys/)


And apparently there exists a money trail leading overseas...

Investigators seek money courier in NYC bomb plot

By TOM HAYS and RASOOL DAWAR, Associated Press Writers Tom Hays And Rasool Dawar, Associated Press Writers 2 hrs 32 mins ago

NEW YORK – Investigators of the failed car bombing in Times Square are looking for a money courier they say helped funnel cash from overseas to finance a Pakistani-American's preparations to blow up the crude gasoline-and-propane bomb in the heart of New York, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Investigators have the name of the courier who they believe helped Faisal Shahzad pay for the used SUV and other materials to rig up a car bomb that would have caused a huge fireball in Times Square if it had gone off, the official told the AP. The official didn't know how much money may have changed hands.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity Thursday because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

U.S. law enforcement officials traveled to Pakistan — where Shahzad spent five months before returning to the U.S. in February — to question four alleged members of an al-Qaida-linked militant group. Investigators are trying to trace his movements in his homeland and looking into the possible financing of the operation between the Pakistan-born budget analyst and foreign terror groups.

Shahzad, 30, who remains in custody on terrorism and weapons charges, lived alone in a Bridgeport, Conn., and rented an apartment with no apparent job since February. He is seen on videotape buying boxes of fireworks from a Pennsylvania store and authorities say he bought a rifle in Connecticut over the past three months with no apparent source of income.

He paid for the used SUV with 13 $100 bills, authorities say, then tried to blow up the vehicle in Times Square on Saturday. A T-shirt vendor saw smoke coming from the SUV and alerted police.

Officials have been investigating if Shahzad got money from militant groups, including the Pakistani Taliban, which originally claimed responsibility for the bombing attempt then backed off that claim.

Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik said Friday he believed Shahzad did not act alone, but he had seen no evidence suggesting the Pakistan Taliban were involved.

"All those leads, suggesting it was his own action, I will not accept that. I'd like to see details," Malik told reporters in Beijing. "Obviously, he had bought a vehicle filled with explosives. It looks a bit difficult (to say) that he's (working) alone."

A Pakistani Taliban spokesman said Thursday the group had nothing to do with the attempted bombing, but added: "Such attacks are welcome."

"We have no relation with Faisal. However, he is our Muslim brother," Taliban spokesman Azam Tariq told the AP in Pakistan by telephone from an undisclosed location. "We feel proud of Faisal. He did a brave job."

The group has never launched a successful terrorist attack against the United States.

Since his arrest Monday, Shahzad admitted to the failed bombing and has cooperated in the investigation, authorities say. He has not yet appeared in court.

Still, police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said investigators want to find out if "what he's saying is in fact the truth."

"We are directly looking at who did he have contact with while in Pakistan, what did he do, who is supporting him and why," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said.

In Karachi, Pakistan, both U.S. and Pakistani officials questioned four alleged members of the Jaish-e-Mohammad militant group, two Pakistani security officials told the AP, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media. The militant group is believed to have been established by Pakistani intelligence agencies, and has been linked to the al-Qaida terror network and the 2002 killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

SOURCE: AP/YAHOO (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb)

FORD
05-07-2010, 11:10 AM
No kidding. Did you notice the person that posted the clip (martinasanchez95 (http://www.youtube.com/user/martinasanchez95)) put the blame on Israel? "To see the clear cut evidence of Jewish involvement in this psychological terror operation..." Huh? http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-718.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Scared-Smileys/)

That's ridiculous.

If this was an Israeli psyops plot, they wouldn't have chosen a Pakistani patsy. We all know which country NuttyYahoo wants to bomb into oblivion, and it isn't Pakistan.

Now when they start dragging out Iranians with failed bomb plots, that's when I'd suspect Mossad had their hands in it.

If anyone is setting up this shit, it's someone with a financial interest in keeping the Afghanistan clusterfuck going, which is why it suddenly became a "Taliban" incident.

Hardrock69
05-07-2010, 11:31 AM
Yup. Clear cut evidence of Jewish involvement my ass. So if I go change my clothes on a street corner in Times Square, does that automatically mean I am Jewish?:lol:

Perhaps that is why Christians have a fit when anyone suggests Jesus was Jewish, as nowhere in the Bubble does it say "And lo, The Lord changed Him His garment in the public square in full view of the multitudes as was the tradition of the Jews". :biggrin:

Blaze
05-07-2010, 12:32 PM
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chefcraig
06-21-2010, 06:25 PM
Times Square car bomb suspect pleads guilty in NYC

NEW YORK – Calling himself a "Muslim soldier," a defiant Pakistan-born U.S. citizen pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing, saying his attack was the answer to "the U.S. terrorizing ... Muslim people."

Wearing a white skull cap, Faisal Shahzad entered the plea in U.S. District Court in Manhattan just days after a federal grand jury indicted him on 10 terrorism and weapons counts, some of which carried mandatory life prison sentences. He pleaded guilty to them all.

"One has to understand where I'm coming from," Shahzad calmly told U.S. District Judge Miriam Goldman Cedarbaum, who challenged him repeatedly with questions such as whether he worried about killing children in Times Square. "I consider myself ... a Muslim soldier."

The 30-year-old described his effort to set off a bomb in an SUV he parked in Times Square on May 1, saying he chose the warm Saturday night because it would be crowded with people who he could injure or kill.

He revealed that he actually packed his vehicle with three separate bombs, hoping to set off a fertilizer-fueled bomb packed in a gun cabinet, a set of propane tanks and gas canisters rigged with fireworks to explode into a fireball.

Shahzad said he expected the bombs to begin going off after he lighted a fuse and waited between 2 1/2 minutes and five minutes for them to erupt.

"I was waiting to hear a sound but I didn't hear a sound. So I walked to Grand Central and went home," he said.

Shahzad dismissed the judge's question about the children by saying the U.S. didn't care when children were killed in Muslim countries.

"It's a war. I am part of the answer to the U.S. terrorizing the Muslim nations and the Muslim people," he said. "On behalf of that, I'm revenging the attack. Living in the United States, Americans only care about their people but they don't care about the people elsewhere in the world when they die."

Shahzad made the plea and an accompanying statement as Cedarbaum began asking him a lengthy series of questions to ensure he understood his rights.

Cedarbaum asked Shahzad if he understood some charges carried mandatory life sentences and that he might spend the rest of his life in prison. He said he did.

At one point, she asked him if he was sure he wanted to plead guilty.

He said he wanted "to plead guilty and 100 times more" to let the U.S. know that if it did not get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, halt drone attacks and stop meddling in Muslim lands, "we will be attacking U.S."

Sentencing was scheduled for Oct. 5.

The Bridgeport, Conn., resident was arrested trying to leave the country May 3, two days after the bomb failed to ignite near a Broadway theater.

Authorities said Shahzad immediately cooperated, delaying his initial court appearance for two weeks as he spilled details of a plot meant to sow terror in the world-famous Times Square on a warm Saturday night when it was packed with thousands of potential victims.

The bomb apparently sputtered, emitting smoke that attracted the attention of an alert street vendor, who notified police, setting in motion a rapid evacuation of blocks of a city still healing from the shock of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

According to the indictment issued last week, Shahzad received a total of $12,000 prior to the attack from the Pakistani Taliban through cash drop-offs in Massachusetts and Long Island.

Attorney General Eric Holder said the Pakistani Taliban "facilitated Faisal Shahzad's attempted attack on American soil."

Shahzad was accused in the indictment of receiving explosives training in Waziristan, Pakistan, during a five-week trip to that country. He returned to the United States in February.

The indictment said he received $5,000 in cash on Feb. 25 from a co-conspirator in Pakistan and $7,000 more on April 10, allegedly sent at the co-conspirator's direction.

Shahzad, born in Pakistan, moved to the United States when he was 18.

Pakistan has arrested at least 11 people since the attempted attack. An intelligence official has alleged two of them played a role in the plot. No one has been charged.

Three men in Massachusetts and Maine suspected of supplying money to Shahzad have been detained on immigration charges; one was recently transferred to New York.

Federal authorities have said they believe money was channeled through an underground money transfer network known as "hawala," but they have said they doubt anyone in the U.S. who provided money knew what it was for.

AP SOURCE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100621/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb)

Nickdfresh
06-21-2010, 09:30 PM
Worst terrorist ever...

Seshmeister
06-21-2010, 10:28 PM
It's very encouraging if this is the best they can find.

He actually locked his keys in the car, that's why he had to just forget it when it didn't go off. :)

Nickdfresh
06-22-2010, 08:44 AM
Whatever constituted "al Qaida," what's left is shot. A lot of their more competent people have been reduced via drone strikes on Pakistan, and you're left with mostly the incompetence of the ones delusional enough to believe their shit....

jhale667
06-22-2010, 11:35 AM
Whatever constituted "al Qaida," what's left is shot. A lot of their more competent people have been reduced via drone strikes on Pakistan, and you're left with mostly the incompetence of the ones delusional enough to believe their shit....

Well, if the best (and brightest) they have left is this idiot, then there's some hope...

Seshmeister
06-22-2010, 03:58 PM
If they were any good they wouldn't need to kill themselves so often.

They are the Chickenfoot of terror - you don't like the idea of them to start with but you are still surprised at how bad they actually turn out to be.

LoungeMachine
06-22-2010, 04:20 PM
Whatever constituted "al Qaida," what's left is shot. A lot of their more competent people have been reduced via drone strikes on Pakistan, and you're left with mostly the incompetence of the ones delusional enough to believe their shit....

And yet hear we stay, occupying 2 countries to the tune of a BILLION DOLLARS a week for no other reason to protect oil interests and defense contracts.

:gulp:

Fuck Al Qaida, I want some protection from LOBBYISTS. They're the REAL terror organizations

Blaze
06-23-2010, 12:03 AM
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