Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

[Jagermeister]

By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer Michael Kunzelman, Associated Press Writer – 12 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – A federal judge on Tuesday blocked a six-month moratorium on new deepwater drilling projects imposed after the massive Gulf oil spill.

The White House promised an immediate appeal. President Barack Obama's administration had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make any sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

Several companies that ferry people and supplies and provide other services to offshore drilling rigs asked U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman in New Orleans to overturn the moratorium, arguing it was arbitrarily imposed.

Feldman agreed, saying in his ruling the Interior Department assumed that because one rig failed, all companies and rigs doing deepwater drilling pose an imminent danger.

"The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is an unprecedented, sad, ugly and inhuman disaster," he wrote. "What seems clear is that the federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm."

The moratorium was imposed after the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers and blew out the well 5,000 feet underwater that has spewed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf.

The Interior Department said it needed time to study the risks of deepwater drilling. But the lawsuit filed by Hornbeck Offshore Services of Covington, La., claimed there was no proof the other operations posed a threat.

Company CEO Todd Hornbeck said after the ruling that he is looking forward to getting back to work.

"It's the right thing for not only the industry but the country," he said.

The moratorium was declared May 6 and originally was to last only through the month. Obama announced May 27 that he was extending it for six months.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal and corporate leaders said the moratorium would force drilling rigs to leave the Gulf of Mexico for lucrative business in foreign waters.

They said the loss of business would cost the area thousands of lucrative jobs, most paying more than $50,000 a year. The state's other major economic sector, tourism, is a largely low-wage industry.

Tim Kerner, the mayor of Lafitte, La., cheered Feldman's ruling.

"I love it. I think it's great for the jobs here and the people who depend on them," said Kerner, whose constituents make their living, primarily, from commercial fishing or oil.

But in its response to the lawsuit, the Interior Department said the moratorium is necessary as attempts to stop the leak and clean the Gulf continue and new safety standards are developed.

"A second deepwater blowout could overwhelm the efforts to respond to the current disaster," the Interior Department said.

The government also challenged contentions the moratorium would lead to long-term economic harm. Although 33 deepwater drilling sites were affected, there are still 3,600 oil and natural gas production platforms in the Gulf.

Catherine Wannamaker, a lawyer for environmental groups that intervened in the case and supported the moratorium, called the ruling "a step in the wrong direction."

"We think it overlooks the ongoing harm in the Gulf, the devastation it has had on people's lives," she said. "The harm at issue with the Deepwater Horizon spill is bigger than just the Louisiana economy. It affects all of the Gulf."

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[Jagermeister]

Please let those people go back to work!

[ELVIS]

Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make any sense.

LMAO!


:elvis:

[sadaist]

Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make any sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."


I agree Mr. President. Please allow for drilling at safer depths and onshore. You can take all the credit for the job creation and lower gas prices.

[Jagermeister]

You know what's funny. Those people know they have a dangerous job. They don't need blowbama holding there hand. Thay are men for fuck sakes!

[Jagermeister]

Oh and unlike jhale and the welfare recipients in this country those people don't want to set around and get paid for doing nothing!!!!!!!!!:pullinghair:

[ELVIS]

Why not, Obama money grows on Obama trees doesn't it ??

[Nickdfresh]

Good. I'm glad. We need to get people back to work and we need the oil supply. However, I agree with Obama that we need a real, long-term solution to trying to drill more-and-more for less-and-less oil that's harder and harder to get, increasingly risky to deliver, and taking more resources to deliver less to market...

Peak Oil is coming...

[ELVIS]

Peak oil...:rolleyes:

hey Dickforbreath, Obama says hi...

http://bl135w.blu135.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://65.55.174.167/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3db228a5ca-bbcb-4dbc-bcb9-7a940f2b9272.jpeg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26na me%3dbWltZS1hdHRhY2htZW50LmpwZWc_3d%26inline%3d1%2 6rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253a1.3597 396728%2540web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com&oneredir=1&ip=10.4.24.8&d=d835&mf=2&a=01_bbb1a568def254f89594c8b5251e7deec7411fc6dcfc4 af57f4eace1403a3226


:biggrin:

[Nitro Express]

Peak oil...:rolleyes:

hey Dickforbreath, Obama says hi...

http://bl135w.blu135.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://65.55.174.167/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3db228a5ca-bbcb-4dbc-bcb9-7a940f2b9272.jpeg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26na me%3dbWltZS1hdHRhY2htZW50LmpwZWc_3d%26inline%3d1%2 6rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253a1.3597 396728%2540web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com&oneredir=1&ip=10.4.24.8&d=d835&mf=2&a=01_bbb1a568def254f89594c8b5251e7deec7411fc6dcfc4 af57f4eace1403a3226


:biggrin:

Peak oil would be true if all the world had was shallow wells like Saudi Arabia. The Russians admit oil is constantly generated by the earth but to get at it required deep wells. They have drilled the world's deepest over 40 thousand feet but theirs are on land. It's dangerous due to huge pressures and gas pockets. BP found this out the hard way. BP drilling the Gulf deep was them trying to compete with the Russians who's huge oil reserves not controlled by OPEC or western oil companies is viewed as a threat to their monopoly. Peak oil is just an excuse to charge more.

That being said, we don't need oil the way we used to need it. So much technology has been bought and shelved. They want to keep us on oil. Frankly the oil should be used as a chemical base more than a fuel. It's been technically obsolete for a half century.

[Nitro Express]

They have been talking long-term solution since the 1970's. Nothing substantial happens. I know a guy in Idaho who has been trying to get financing for some electric delivery and pickup trucks he's designed and built prototypes of. They can haul 1,200 pounds, have a top speed of 80 mph, and have an average range of 150 miles. They cost $20,000. Basically they are designed to be used as short range haulers that are plugged in at the end of the day in the shop. When you look at the cost of the average small truck today, they are cost competative. Perfect for any business than needs a small truck for a days work. He can't get financing or grants. There's lot's of talk but in reality, the government isn't going to finance a solution because big oil owns the government.

[Nitro Express]

Real energy solutions don't get past the introduction show model phase. Basically, they will be shown in the Epcot Center world of the future tradition and never come to reality.

[ELVIS]

I think they will, but will never totally replace oil and the combustion engine...

it works too good and people love it...

[lesfunk]

I've said this before and I'll say it again.
There will be no alternative energy sources until the very last drop of oil is pulled from the Earth and sold. Once that happens A new energy source will be marketed within a week.

They might as well just figure out an easier, safer way of getting it out of the ground, even if that means Alaska pristine wilderness, 'Cause it ain't like they're gonna stop.
The enviornmentalists pushed the Drillers so far out to sea that it's friggin impossible to contain a spill.
Either outlaw oil (yeah right) or let 'em get at it where it's cheaper and less risky.

[lesfunk]

I think they will, but will never totally replace oil and the combustion engine...

it works too good and people love it...

An electric Harley would be the gayest thing ever.

[ELVIS]

Any electric bike would be gay...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.treehugger.com/electric-motorcycle-photo-01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/11/electric-motorcycles-dirtbikes-7-cool-green.php&usg=__shnpWTlTMtH2ncDS3BpW3QgBaCE=&h=410&w=468&sz=44&hl=en&start=5&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pf4gN9Bt59wreM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3DELECTRIC%2BMOTORCYCLE%26um%3D1%26hl%3 Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

[PETE'S BROTHER]

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.resourceactionprograms.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/honda_oree_014_c_tw.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.resourceactionprograms.org/blog/index.php/2009/04/23/lithium-ion-batteries-fueling-new-electric-motorcycles/&usg=__lVsjNK7_ttlpxYtc0UwNocS8cQU=&h=768&w=1024&sz=106&hl=en&start=6&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Z9HMgVkRC5L40M:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DELECTRIC%2BMOTORCYCLE%26um%3D1%26hl%3 Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

[LoungeMachine]

I think they will, but will never totally replace oil and the combustion engine...

it works too good and people love it...

wtf?

seriously?

It works like shit, and people HATE it, simpleton.

:gulp:

Inefficent, expensive, polluting, prone to break down......

[Jagermeister]

:umm: Cool double post dude. lol

[ELVIS]

wtf?

seriously?

It works like shit, and people HATE it, simpleton.

:gulp:

Inefficent, expensive, polluting, prone to break down......

You're a total dumbass...

[lesfunk]

wtf?

seriously?

It works like shit, and people HATE it, simpleton.

:gulp:

Inefficent, expensive, polluting, prone to break down......

I can't really say I know anybody who hates the internal combustion engine. I mean,What's available that's better right now?
Like I said, Nothing is changing until the last drop is GONE

[PETE'S BROTHER]

:umm: Cool double post dude. lol

two different links, senior.

[LoungeMachine]

You're a total dumbass...

Right back at ya, you homophobic, redneck racist neanderthal.

:gulp:

Yes, let's continue on with technology that's been obsolete for decades now.

What's the matter, afraid it might scare the horses?

[Jagermeister]

two different links, senior.

Oh my bad. I thought you had managed to fine the secret dup post button that binnie has.

[jhale667]

Oh and unlike jhale and the welfare recipients in this country

You're not still trying to push that silly shit are you, dude? No, even you can't be that dumb...
Tell the truth, you're just mad because I won't narrow down how high up on the Fortune 500 list the company I work for is for you...keep guessing.

But on a serious note..


Please let those people go back to work!

Doing something ELSE? Sure. But as for drilling a mile down in the ocean? No.

How about not at least until they figure out how to "safely" (if there even is such a thing) drill at those depths? Because it's pretty obvious the oil companies have been bullshitting about their ability to do so. Supposedly BP wants to drill 2 miles down in the Arctic next where they'll NEVER be able even get enough equipment there or due to the conditions be able to mount a containment/cleanup effort if it goes to shit. It's TOO dangerous, and everyone needs to start thinking about the big picture now. To not do so is idiotic.

Where the F is everyone's outrage? NO, let's blame it on Obama... and/or start with the same stereotypes and racist shit you guys have been fouling the place with of late. It's beyond lame.


This is the perfect opportunity for the US to start getting its' shit together on alternative fuel sources, not potentially creating MORE disasters like the one we haven't even figured out how to STOP yet...

No one's expecting us to get off oil overnight, but we need to drastically reduce our consumption of it, bottom line.

[Jagermeister]

Right back at ya, you homophobic, redneck racist neanderthal.

:gulp:

Yes, let's continue on with technology that's been obsolete for decades now.

What's the matter, afraid it might scare the horses?

Hey!!!

That's not very nice!

Elvis is not a neanderthal!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Oh my bad. I thought you had managed to fine the secret dup post button that binnie has.

i think hr69 has had that button last.:biggrin:

[jhale667]

Hey!!!

That's not very nice!

Elvis is not a neanderthal!


He prefers " Cro-mag"... ;)

[Jagermeister]

You're not still trying to push that silly shit are you, dude? No, even you can't be that dumb...
Tell the truth, you're just mad because I won't narrow down how high up on the Fortune 500 list the company I work for is for you...keep guessing.

But on a serious note..



Doing something ELSE? Sure. But as for drilling a mile down in the ocean? No.

How about not at least until they figure out how to "safely" (if there even is such a thing) drill at those depths? Because it's pretty obvious the oil companies have been bullshitting about their ability to do so. Supposedly BP wants to drill 2 miles down in the Arctic next where they'll NEVER be able even get enough equipment there or due to the conditions be able to mount a containment/cleanup effort if it goes to shit. It's TOO dangerous, and everyone needs to start thinking about the big picture now. To not do so is idiotic.

Where the F is everyone's outrage? NO, let's blame it on Obama... and/or start with the same stereotypes and racist shit you guys have been fouling the place with of late. It's beyond lame.


This is the perfect opportunity for the US to start getting its' shit together on alternative fuel sources, not potentially creating MORE disasters like the one we haven't even figured out how to STOP yet...

No one's expecting us to get off oil overnight, but we need to drastically reduce our consumption of it, bottom line.

Has there ever been another deep water oil spill before?


lol to the fortune 500 list. How about a hint. ;)

[jhale667]

Has there ever been another deep water oil spill before?


lol to the fortune 500 list. How about a hint. ;)

Why hint? You said you like a challenge, remember? :biggrin:

Actually, there are more BP oil rigs of that same crappy design out there...more disasters waiting to happen if existing regulations aren't being followed or enforced...

[Nickdfresh]

Peak oil...:rolleyes:

hey Dickforbreath, Obama says hi...

http://bl135w.blu135.mail.live.com/mail/SafeRedirect.aspx?hm__tg=http://65.55.174.167/att/GetAttachment.aspx&hm__qs=file%3db228a5ca-bbcb-4dbc-bcb9-7a940f2b9272.jpeg%26ct%3daW1hZ2UvanBlZw_3d_3d%26na me%3dbWltZS1hdHRhY2htZW50LmpwZWc_3d%26inline%3d1%2 6rfc%3d0%26empty%3dFalse%26imgsrc%3dcid%253a1.3597 396728%2540web55306.mail.re4.yahoo.com&oneredir=1&ip=10.4.24.8&d=d835&mf=2&a=01_bbb1a568def254f89594c8b5251e7deec7411fc6dcfc4 af57f4eace1403a3226


:biggrin:

Oh, is he there fucking your girlfriend upstairs?

[Jagermeister]

Why hint? You said you like a challenge, remember? :biggrin:

Actually, there are more BP oil rigs of that same crappy design out there...more disasters waiting to happen if existing regulations aren't being followed or enforced...

You know where I am going with this.

I don't think we should throw in the towel on deep water drilling just because we had one major fuck up. That area of the ocean is filled with rigs. What would that failure rate be? .00001%? We still run tankers even after the Exon fuck up. Learn from it and move on.

[Jagermeister]

1 Exxon Mobil 442,851.0 45,220.0
2 Wal-Mart Stores 405,607.0 13,400.0
3 Chevron 263,159.0 23,931.0
4 ConocoPhillips 230,764.0 -16,998.0
5 General Electric 183,207.0 17,410.0
6 General Motors 148,979.0 -30,860.0
7 Ford Motor 146,277.0 -14,672.0
8 AT&T 124,028.0 12,867.0
9 Hewlett-Packard 118,364.0 8,329.0
10 Valero Energy 118,298.0 -1,131.0
11 Bank of America Corp. 113,106.0 4,008.0
12 Citigroup 112,372.0 -27,684.0
13 Berkshire Hathaway 107,786.0 4,994.0
14 International Business Machines 103,630.0 12,334.0
15 McKesson 101,703.0 990.0
16 J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. 101,491.0 5,605.0
17 Verizon Communications 97,354.0 6,428.0
18 Cardinal Health 91,091.4 1,300.6
19 CVS Caremark 87,471.9 3,212.1
20 Procter & Gamble 83,503.0 12,075.0
21 UnitedHealth Group 81,186.0 2,977.0
22 Kroger 76,000.0 1,249.4
23 Marathon Oil 73,504.0 3,528.0
24 Costco Wholesale 72,483.0 1,282.7
25 Home Depot 71,288.0 2,260.0
26 AmerisourceBergen 70,593.5 250.6
27 Archer Daniels Midland 69,816.0 1,802.0
28 Target 64,948.0 2,214.0
29 Johnson & Johnson 63,747.0 12,949.0
30 Morgan Stanley 62,262.0 1,707.0
31 State Farm Insurance Cos. 61,343.4 -541.8
32 WellPoint 61,251.1 2,490.7
33 Dell 61,101.0 2,478.0
34 Boeing 60,909.0 2,672.0
35 Microsoft 60,420.0 17,681.0
36 Walgreen 59,034.0 2,157.0
37 United Technologies 58,681.0 4,689.0
38 Dow Chemical 57,514.0 579.0
39 MetLife 55,085.0 3,209.0
40 Goldman Sachs Group 53,579.0 2,322.0
41 Sunoco 51,652.0 776.0
41 Wells Fargo 51,652.0 2,655.0
43 United Parcel Service 51,486.0 3,003.0
44 Caterpillar 51,324.0 3,557.0
45 Medco Health Solutions 51,258.0 1,102.9
46 Pfizer 48,296.0 8,104.0
47 Lowe's 48,230.0 2,195.0
48 Time Warner 46,984.0 -13,402.0
49 Sears Holdings 46,770.0 53.0
50 Safeway 44,104.0 965.3
51 Supervalu 44,048.0 593.0
52 PepsiCo 43,251.0 5,142.0
53 Kraft Foods 42,867.0 2,901.0
54 Lockheed Martin 42,731.0 3,217.0
55 Hess 41,094.0 2,360.0
56 Best Buy 40,023.0 1,407.0
57 Cisco Systems 39,540.0 8,052.0
58 Johnson Controls 38,062.0 979.0
59 FedEx 37,953.0 1,125.0
60 Walt Disney 37,843.0 4,427.0
61 Intel 37,586.0 5,292.0
62 Sysco 37,522.1 1,106.2
63 Honeywell International 36,556.0 2,792.0
64 Sprint Nextel 35,635.0 -2,796.0
65 Enterprise GP Holdings 35,469.6 164.1
66 GMAC 35,445.0 1,868.0
67 Ingram Micro 34,362.2 -394.9
68 Comcast 34,256.0 2,547.0
69 Northrop Grumman 33,940.0 -1,262.0
70 News Corp. 32,996.0 5,387.0
71 Apple 32,479.0 4,834.0
72 CHS 32,167.5 803.0
73 Coca-Cola 31,944.0 5,807.0
74 American Express 31,877.0 2,699.0
75 DuPont 31,836.0 2,007.0
76 New York Life Insurance 31,416.2 -949.7
77 Aetna 30,950.7 1,384.1
78 Motorola 30,146.0 -4,244.0
79 Plains All American Pipeline 30,061.0 437.0
80 Abbott Laboratories 29,527.6 4,880.7
81 Allstate 29,394.0 -1,679.0
82 TIAA-CREF 29,362.5 -3,344.9
83 General Dynamics 29,302.0 2,459.0
84 Prudential Financial 29,275.0 -1,073.0
85 Humana 28,946.4 647.2
86 Liberty Mutual Insurance Group 28,855.0 1,140.0
87 Deere 28,437.6 2,052.8
88 HCA 28,374.0 673.0
89 Tyson Foods 28,130.0 86.0
90 Alcoa 28,119.0 -74.0
91 Tesoro 28,031.0 278.0
92 Murphy Oil 27,512.5 1,740.0
93 Philip Morris International 25,705.0 6,890.0
94 Emerson Electric 25,281.0 2,412.0
95 3M 25,269.0 3,460.0
96 Macy's 24,892.0 -4,803.0
97 International Paper 24,829.0 -1,282.0
98 Occidental Petroleum 24,480.0 6,857.0
99 Travelers Cos. 24,477.0 2,924.0
100 Rite Aid 24,417.7 -1,079.0

[Jagermeister]

Lowe's jhale works for Lowe's!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

rite aid, fo shizzle

[Jagermeister]

Ok These are all that are in Cali. This is a 2009 list. ;)

1 Chevron 3 263,159.0 San Ramon
2 Hewlett-Packard 9 118,364.0 Palo Alto
3 McKesson 15 101,703.0 San Francisco
4 Wells Fargo 41 51,652.0 San Francisco
5 Safeway 50 44,104.0 Pleasanton
6 Cisco Systems 57 39,540.0 San Jose
7 Walt Disney 60 37,843.0 Burbank
8 Intel 61 37,586.0 Santa Clara
9 Ingram Micro 67 34,362.2 Santa Ana
10 Northrop Grumman 69 33,940.0 Los Angeles
11 Apple 71 32,479.0 Cupertino
12 Occidental Petroleum 98 24,480.0 Los Angeles
13 Oracle 113 22,430.0 Redwood City
14 Google 117 21,795.6 Mountain View
15 DirecTV Group 126 19,693.0 El Segundo
16 Health Net 165 15,366.6 Woodland Hills
17 Amgen 168 15,003.0 Thousand Oaks
18 PG&E Corp. 176 14,628.0 San Francisco
19 Gap 178 14,526.0 San Francisco
20 Edison International 184 14,112.0 Rosemead
21 Sun Microsystems 187 13,880.0 Santa Clara
22 Jacobs Engineering Group 241 11,252.2 Pasadena
23 Qualcomm 244 11,142.0 San Diego
24 Sempra Energy 252 10,758.0 San Diego
25 URS 264 10,086.3 San Francisco
26 SAIC 266 10,078.0 San Diego
27 Sanmina-SCI 292 9,004.9 San Jose
28 Reliance Steel & Aluminum 298 8,718.8 Los Angeles
29 eBay 303 8,541.3 San Jose
30 Applied Materials 315 8,129.2 Santa Clara
31 Western Digital 319 8,074.0 Lake Forest
32 Synnex 328 7,768.2 Fremont
33 Dole Food 329 7,732.4 Westlake Village
34 Yahoo 345 7,208.5 Sunnyvale
35 Avery Dennison 376 6,710.4 Pasadena
36 Ross Stores 384 6,486.1 Pleasanton
37 Visa 394 6,263.0 San Francisco
38 First American Corp. 398 6,213.8 Santa Ana
39 Franklin Resources 410 6,032.4 San Mateo
40 Mattel 415 5,918.0 El Segundo
41 Advanced Micro Devices 418 5,881.0 Sunnyvale
42 Symantec 419 5,874.4 Cupertino
43 Agilent Technologies 425 5,774.0 Santa Clara
44 DaVita 433 5,660.2 El Segundo
45 Charles Schwab 440 5,393.0 San Francisco
46 Gilead Sciences 444 5,335.8 Foster City
47 Clorox 452 5,273.0 Oakland
48 AECOM Technology 458 5,216.2 Los Angeles
49 CB Richard Ellis Group 464 5,130.1 Los Angeles
50 Con-way 470 5,036.8 San Mateo
51 Broadcom 495 4,658.1 Irvine
52 Robert Half International 503 4,600.6 Menlo Park
53 Core-Mark Holding 506 4,570.5 South San Francisco
54 Allergan 517 4,403.4 Irvine
55 Levi Strauss 518 4,400.9 San Francisco
56 Live Nation 524 4,327.1 Beverly Hills
57 Unified Grocers 545 4,104.8 Commerce
58 Pacific Life 551 4,023.0 Newport Beach
59 Stater Bros. Holdings 580 3,741.3 San Bernadino
60 Del Monte Foods 582 3,737.4 San Francisco
61 Electronic Arts 590 3,665.0 Redwood City
62 Adobe Systems 601 3,579.9 San Jose
63 Juniper Networks 603 3,572.4 Sunnyvale
64 Nvidia 623 3,424.9 Santa Clara
65 Williams-Sonoma 637 3,361.5 San Francisco
66 SanDisk 640 3,351.4 Milpitas
67 NetApp 647 3,303.2 Sunnyvale
68 Molina Healthcare 673 3,112.4 Long Beach
69 Beckman Coulter 675 3,098.9 Fullerton
70 Intuit 678 3,072.9 Mountain View
71 KB Home 682 3,033.9 Los Angeles
72 Jack in the Box 685 3,001.4 San Diego
73 Activision Blizzard 705 2,898.1 Santa Monica
74 LSI 737 2,677.1 Milpitas
75 Granite Construction 738 2,674.2 Watsonville
76 Quiksilver 745 2,638.8 Huntington Beach
77 Watson Pharmaceuticals 769 2,535.5 Corona
78 Kla-Tencor 774 2,521.7 Milpitas
79 Lam Research 786 2,474.9 Fremont
80 Mercury General 800 2,414.2 Los Angeles
81 Autodesk 818 2,315.2 San Rafael
82 Spansion 826 2,281.9 Sunnyvale
83 Varian Medical Systems 876 2,104.9 Palo Alto
84 Guess 878 2,093.4 Los Angeles
85 Pacer International 882 2,087.7 Concord
86 Maxim Integrated Products 887 2,052.8 Sunnyvale
87 Ryland Group 902 1,976.1 Calabasas
88 Century Aluminum 907 1,970.8 Monterey
89 Leap Wireless International 909 1,958.9 San Diego
90 McClatchy 923 1,900.5 Sacramento
91 Teledyne Technologies 927 1,893.0 Thousand Oaks
92 National Semiconductor 928 1,885.9 Santa Clara
93 Sun Healthcare Group 932 1,883.7 Irvine
94 Xilinx 951 1,841.4 San Jose
95 Cypress Semiconductor 962 1,803.0 San Jose
96 Bio-Rad Laboratories 977 1,764.4 Hercules
97 Public Storage 986 1,745.6 Glendale
98 Fleetwood Enterprises 993 1,736.6 Riverside

[Jagermeister]

If I had to guess I would say Sun Microsystems.

[hambon4lif]

Lowe's jhale works for Lowe's!No he doesn't. He works for Geico. He starred in alot of their commercials before they went back to using the little lizard dude. The tv show was a complete disaster, but alot of people knew that from the git-go. It's no surprise that it tanked.
I didn't know that being a 'spokesperson' necessarily meant that you were an 'employee' of the company....I guess you learn something new everyday.

......fuckin' messageboards!.....so easy even a jhale can use it! :lmao:

[ELVIS]

uhh hu uhu hu hu hu hu hu hu hu

[PETE'S BROTHER]

The city is home to six Fortune 500 companies. They are aerospace contractor Northrop Grumman, energy company Occidental Petroleum, healthcare provider Health Net, metals distributor Reliance Steel & Aluminum, engineering firm AECOM, and real estate group CB Richard Ellis.

[jhale667]

If I had to guess I would say Sun Microsystems.

Nope. Though I can see where you'd (rightfully) think it was something that kept me staring at a computer all day.
And no, that's not all that are in Cali...think you're being a little too specific with your list. And I WILL give you a hint or two: No, it's not an oil (or insurance) company either...nor is it fast-food related, much to SMELVIS' chagrin. :hee:

But hey, you're trying... ;)

[Jagermeister]

Nope. Though I can see where you'd (rightfully) think it was something that kept me staring at a computer all day.
And no, that's not all that are in Cali...think you're being a little too specific with your list. And I WILL give you a hint or two: No, it's not an oil (or insurance) company either...nor is it fast-food related, much to SMELVIS' chagrin. :hee:

But hey, you're trying... ;)


Oh trickery? So it's not based in California? Because I think this list is correct for cali.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/states/CA.html

[Jagermeister]

The city is home to six Fortune 500 companies. They are aerospace contractor Northrop Grumman, energy company Occidental Petroleum, healthcare provider Health Net, metals distributor Reliance Steel & Aluminum, engineering firm AECOM, and real estate group CB Richard Ellis.

Its' not Grumman. The rag heads couldn't get gov't security clearance. It's not oil. Health? hmmmm maybe. Not Ellis. Maybe AECOM. Yes maybe.

[Candy Girl]

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44375&src=twitter-nh

That glossy gray sheen? Oil.

[jhale667]

Oh trickery? So it's not based in California? Because I think this list is correct for cali.



Yes and No...which is why it might not show up with the list sorted that way...it's global, remember?

[PETE'S BROTHER]

so the company is purina or sumthin' but the office is in l.a.:umm:

[jhale667]

Uh, no. Not Purina. But enough about you guys not being able to figure out where I work (or being amazed that I do) ... HOW 'BOUT THEM ALTERNATIVE FUELS???

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i think the steam boiler could make a big comeback..


An electric steam boilers is a type of boiler where the steam is generated using electricity, rather than through the combustion of a fuel source. They are used to generate steam for process purposes in many locations, for example laundries, food processing factories and hospitals. Although they are more expensive to run than gas-fired or oil-fired boilers they are popular because of their simplicity and ease of use. Because of the large currents required, they are normally run from a three-phase electricity supply. They convert electrical energy into thermal energy with almost 100% efficiency but the overall thermal efficiency is variable, depending on the efficiency with which the electricity is generated.
[edit]Environmental concerns

An electric steam boiler emits no pollutants at the point of use but it may be responsible for off-site pollution, depending on the source of the electricity. It is a very inefficient way of using fossil fuels because a thermal power station converts only about one third of the fossil fuel energy into electricity. However, if the power source is a wind turbine or water turbine then an electric steam boiler could be seen as a very environmentally friendly machine.

[Nickdfresh]

I've said this before and I'll say it again.
There will be no alternative energy sources until the very last drop of oil is pulled from the Earth and sold. Once that happens A new energy source will be marketed within a week.

....

You're wrong. Remember 2008 when fuel prices skyrocketed? Yeah, there was no green energy revolution launched, but it was enough to change peoples' behaviors and get them to abandon SUVs in droves...Imagine when that becomes the status quo...

[ELVIS]

No they didn't, they just became a lot more conservative with their gasoline...

[Blaze]

Maybe this deserves its own thread, but I honestly do not know what to say after watching it.
I posted here because this thread is about the oil and on top of the list.

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[Hardrock69]

Turns out the judge has heavy investments in oil company stocks.

[ELVIS]

What's wrong with that ??

[Blaze]

What's wrong with that ??

Judges may not hear cases in which they have either personal knowledge of the disputed facts, a personal bias concerning a party to the case, earlier involvement in the case as a lawyer, or a financial interest in any party or subject matter of the case.

http://www.uscourts.gov/RulesAndPolicies/CodesOfConduct.aspx

[Nickdfresh]

No they didn't, they just became a lot more conservative with their gasoline...

And bought up small cars in droves, both new and used...

[Hardrock69]

What's wrong with that ??
Come on, man, you are smarter than that.

[ELVIS]

Well, was it BP stock ??

[jhale667]

So is the oily rain in Louisiana bumming you out yet, E - or does it actually save you money on hair gel?

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[ELVIS]

There is no oily rain...:rolleyes:

[PETE'S BROTHER]

There is no oily rain...:rolleyes:

ok. rainy oil then.

[jhale667]

ok. rainy oil then.

Semantics...he says "potato", we say STFU... :lmao:

[ELVIS]

Go walk in any street where cars have been parked, and look at the oil sheen after it rains...idiot...:rolleyes:

[Nickdfresh]

New Orleans had mountains of cars in the junkyard section years after Katrina, and some of them were crushed probably full of fluids...

[Blaze]

New Orleans and LA was already polluted, prior to the storm. I can attest to that from work sites.

However, E there must be 100 + car parking lot right outside and it even has a drain off channel, it never looks like that.
I do not recall Wally world's parking lot looking like that (though I will look now). Moreover that is a street, not a parking lot.

Good article here
http://jalopnik.com/5570961/its-raining-oil-in-louisiana

I am just going to pull to cartoons from the comment section.....

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/06/e9100f5c3dc507f6741ab3de9714ad61/340x.jpeg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/06/8484c4f7be74f85be112f5eddce87d61/340x.jpg

New meaning to the song, eh.