Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia dead at 92

[BigBadBrian]

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_byrd)

WASHINGTON – Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, a fiery orator versed in the classics and a hard-charging power broker who steered billions of federal dollars to the state of his Depression-era upbringing, died Monday. He was 92.

A spokesman for the family, Jesse Jacobs, said Byrd died peacefully at about 3 a.m. at Inova Hospital in Fairfax, Va. He had been in the hospital since late last week.

At first Byrd was believed to be suffering from heat exhaustion and severe dehydration, but other medical conditions developed. He had been in frail health for several years.

Byrd, a Democrat, was the longest-serving senator in history, holding his seat for more than 50 years. He was the Senate's majority leader for six of those years and was third in the line of succession to the presidency, behind House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a fellow West Virginian in the Senate, said it was his "greatest privilege" to serve with Byrd.

"I looked up to him, I fought next to him, and I am deeply saddened that he is gone," Rockefeller said.

The Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Byrd "combined a devotion to the U.S. Constitution with a deep learning of history to defend the interests of his state and the traditions of the Senate."

"We will remember him for his fighter's spirit, his abiding faith, and for the many times he recalled the Senate to its purposes," McConnell said.

In comportment and style, Byrd often seemed a Senate throwback to a courtlier 19th century. He could recite poetry, quote the Bible, discuss the Constitutional Convention and detail the Peloponnesian Wars — and frequently did in Senate debates.

Yet there was nothing particularly courtly about Byrd's pursuit or exercise of power.

Byrd was a master of the Senate's bewildering rules and longtime chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, which controls a third of the $3 trillion federal budget. He was willing to use both to reward friends and punish those he viewed as having slighted him.

"Bob is a living encyclopedia, and legislative graveyards are filled with the bones of those who underestimated him," former House Speaker Jim Wright, D-Texas, once said in remarks Byrd later displayed in his office.

In 1971, Byrd ousted Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts as the Democrats' second in command. He was elected majority leader in 1976 and held the post until Democrats lost control of the Senate four years later. He remained his party's leader through six years in the minority, then spent another two years as majority leader.

"I have tangled with him. He usually wins," former Sen. Dennis DeConcini, D-Ariz., once recalled.

DeConcini supported Byrd's bid for majority leader. "He reciprocated by helping me get on the Appropriations Committee," DeConcini said. Years later, DeConcini said, he displeased Byrd on another issue. "I didn't get on the Intelligence Committee when I thought I was up to get on it."

Byrd stepped aside as majority leader in 1989 when Democrats sought a more contemporary television spokesman. "I ran the Senate like a stern parent," Byrd wrote in his memoir, "Child of the Appalachian Coalfields." His consolation price was the chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee, with control over almost limitless federal spending.

Within two years, he surpassed his announced five-year goal of making sure more than $1 billion in federal funds was sent back to West Virginia, money used to build highways, bridges, buildings and other facilities, some named after him.

In 2006 and with 64 percent of the vote, Byrd won an unprecedented ninth term in the Senate just months after surpassing South Carolinian Strom Thurmond's record as its longest-serving member. His more than 18,500 roll call votes were another record.

But Byrd also seemed to slow after the death of Erma, his wife of almost 69 years, in 2006. Frail and at times wistful, he used two canes to walk haltingly and needed help from aides to make his way about the Senate. He often hesitated at unscripted moments. By 2009, aides were bringing him to and from the Senate floor in a wheelchair.

Though his hands trembled in later years, Byrd only recently lost his grip on power. Last November he surrendered his chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee.

Byrd's lodestar was protecting the Constitution. He frequently pulled out a dog-eared copy of it from a pocket in one of his trademark three-piece suits. He also defended the Senate in its age-old rivalry with the executive branch, no matter which party held the White House.

Unlike other prominent Senate Democrats such as 2004 presidential nominee John Kerry of Massachusetts, who voted to authorize the war in Iraq, Byrd stood firm in opposition — and felt gratified when public opinion swung behind him.

"The people are becoming more and more aware that we were hoodwinked, that the leaders of this country misrepresented or exaggerated the necessity for invading Iraq," Byrd said.

He cited Iraq when he endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination in May 2008, calling Obama "a shining young statesman, who possesses the personal temperament and courage necessary to extricate our country from this costly misadventure."

Byrd's accomplishments followed a childhood of poverty in West Virginia, and his success on the national stage came despite a complicated history on racial matters. As a young man, we was a member of the Ku Klux Klan for a brief period, and he joined Southern Democrats in an unsuccessful filibuster against the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act.

He later apologized for both actions, saying intolerance has no place in America. While supporting later civil rights bills, he opposed busing to integrate schools.

Byrd briefly sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 1976 and later told associates he had once been approached by President Richard M. Nixon, a Republican, about accepting an appointment to the Supreme Court.

But he was a creature — and defender — of Congress across a career that began in 1952 with his election to the House. He served three terms there before winning his Senate seat in 1958, when Dwight D. Eisenhower was in the White House.

He clashed with presidents in both parties and was implacably against proposed balanced budget amendments to the Constitution.

"He is a fierce defender of the Senate and its prerogatives in ways that I think the founding fathers really intended the Senate to be," said one-time rival Kennedy.

In a measure of his tenacity, Byrd took a decade of night courses to earn a law degree in 1963, and completed his long-delayed bachelor's degree at West Virginia's Marshall University in 1994 with correspondence classes.

Byrd was a near-deity in economically struggling West Virginia, to which he delivered countless federally financed projects. Entire government bureaus opened there, including the FBI's repository for computerized fingerprint records. Even the Coast Guard had a facility in the landlocked state. Critics portrayed him as the personification of Congress' thirst for wasteful "pork" spending projects.

Robert Carlyle Byrd was born Nov. 20, 1917, in North Wilkesboro, N.C., as Cornelius Calvin Sale Jr., the youngest of five children.

Before he was 1, his mother died and his father sent him to live with an aunt and uncle, Vlurma and Titus Byrd, who renamed him and moved to the coal-mining town of Stotesbury, W.Va. He didn't learn his original name until he was 16 and his real birthday until he was 54.

Byrd's foster father was a miner who frequently changed jobs, and Byrd recalled that the family's house was "without electricity, ... no running water, no telephone, a little wooden outhouse."

He graduated from high school but could not afford college. Married in 1936 to high school sweetheart Erma Ora James — with whom he had two daughters — he pumped gas, cut meat and during World War II was a shipyard welder.

Returning to meat cutting in West Virginia, he became popular for his fundamentalist Bible lectures. A grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan suggested he run for office.

He won his first race — for the state's House of Delegates — in 1946, distinguishing himself from 12 rivals by singing and fiddling mountain tunes. His fiddle became a fixture; he later played it on the television show "Hee Haw" and recorded an album. He abandoned it only after a grandson's traumatic death in 1982 and when his shaky hands left him unable to play.

At his 90th birthday party in 2007, however, Byrd joined bluegrass band Lonesome Highway in singing a few tunes and topped off the night with a rendition of "Old Joe Clark."

After six years in the West Virginia legislature, Byrd was elected to the U.S. House in 1952 in a race in which his brief Klan membership became an issue. He said he joined because of its anti-communism.

Byrd entered Congress as one of its most conservative Democrats. He was an early supporter of the Vietnam War, and his 14-hour, 13-minute filibuster against the 1964 civil rights bill remains one of the longest ever. His views gradually moderated, particularly on economic issues, but he always sided with his state's coal interests in confrontations with environmentalists.

His love of Senate traditions inspired him to write a four-volume history of the chamber. It also led him to oppose laptops on the Senate floor and to object when a blind aide tried bringing her seeing-eye dog into the chamber.

In 2004, Byrd got Congress to require schools and colleges to teach about the Constitution every Sept. 17, the day the document was adopted in 1787.

[fryingdutchman]

Certainly a legendary figure.

A little rigid and unable to adapt to changing times, perhaps, but a legend nonetheless.

Bye-bye, Byrdie.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Even though he was a Democrat, I could never get past the "former KKK member" section of his resume....

That said, rest in peace....

[Nitro Express]

Too bad it wasn't Jay Rockefeller. That guy is a major asshole who wants to clamp down on the internet. It would be nice once David Rockefeller kicks the bucket we would be done with that horrid family but Jay and his cousins are going to continue screw the US and the world through their numerous foundations and appearing like it's all in the name of charity.

[Nitro Express]

Lawrence Rockefeller seemed to be the better of the Rockefeller brothers. He spent a lot of time here in Jackson Hole and donated his ranch to be used as a public park after he died. He seemed to be more into UFO's and nature than screwing the world, oil, and banking.

[jhale667]

Even though he was a Democrat, I could never get past the "former KKK member" section of his resume....

That said, rest in peace....

Exactly, exactly.

[Catfish]

Sad day for kkkhale667.

[Catfish]

How did this asshole stay in office so long?

Hey kkkhale667, how many times did you vote for Robert KKK Byrd when you lived in West Virginia?

[Catfish]

Even though he was a Democrat, I could never get past the "former KKK member" section of his resume....

That said, rest in peace....

Rest in peace????

Are you kidding me?

One of the hugest racists the country has ever known, put into a position of power in an area where KKKism is still relevant, and you want him to "rest in peace"?

If he wasn't a Dem, you bastards would be pissing on his grave!

God damn hypocrites!

[Jagermeister]

Even though he was a Democrat, I could never get past the "former KKK member" section of his resume....

That said, rest in peace....

That was the only thing on his resume that made him honest.

Great man. RIP

[Catfish]

Great unbiased reporting. Not until the TWENTY-FIFTH paragraph does the reporter casually mention the single most noteworthy thing about this son of a bitch. Oh yeah, BTW, he was in the KKK--but only for a brief time!!!!!

Fuck me!!!

[Catfish]

Biased reporting is starting to be called out, at least:

Sen. Robert Byrd not only was a KKK member but led his local Klan chapter
By Mike Riggs and Amanda Carey - The Daily Caller | Published: 12:57 PM 06/28/2010

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/28/sen-robert-byrd-not-only-was-a-kkk-member-but-led-his-local-klan-chapter/


Deceased U.S. Sen. Robert Byrd will be remembered by lots of things: His love for dogs and hyperbole, his ability to funnel federal dollars into make-work jobs in his native West Virginia, his loathing of balanced budgets and the fact that he skillfully conned several generations of Appalachian woodhicks into voting for him, over and over again, for almost six decades.

In passing, Sen. Byrd will also be remembered for having joined the Ku Klux Klan as a “young man.”

A quick check of this morning’s obituaries reveal that in the eyes of the traditional media, Byrd the Progressive Porker is much more important than Bob the Exalted Cyclops.

Byrd joined the Klan at the ripe young age of 24 — hardly a young’un by today’s standards, much less those of 1944, when Byrd refused to join the military because he might have to serve alongside “race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds,” according to a letter Byrd wrote to Sen. Theodore Bilbo at the height of World War II.

Today’s obituaries, however, made little mention of Byrd’s once-deeply held hatred for African Americans.

For your reading pleasure, a collection of obituary snow jobs:

From the 11th paragraph of the LA Times’ Byrd obituary: “Byrd was not always a champion of liberal causes. He had come of age as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and cast a “no” vote on the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibited discrimination against African Americans and others. He later renounced his actions in both cases and called his membership in the KKK ‘the worst mistake of my life.’”

ABC News noted that “despite his successful political track record, the Senate’s senior Democrat was no stranger to controversy and was once a member of the Ku Klux Klan,” as if calling for the extermination of dark-skinned peoples (as well as Jews, Catholics, and gays) was no more stirring a gaffe than Gary Hart’s monkey business.

MSNBC.com reported that “Byrd’s success on the national stage came despite a complicated history on racial matters. As a young man, we was a member of the Ku Klux Klan for a brief period, and he joined Southern Democrats in an unsuccessful filibuster against the landmark 1964 Civil Rights.” (The Ku Klux Klan no doubt objects to being called complicated, and has held since Day 1 one that there is nothing wishy-washy about castrations, lynchings or burning folks alive.)

CNN also gave Byrd a pass on his association with the early 20th-century homegrown terrorist movement, writing in the 20th paragraph of Byrd’s obituary that “He blamed ‘that Southern atmosphere in which I grew up, with all of its prejudices and its feelings,’ for his opposition to equal rights, which included joining the [domestic terrorist outfit] Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s.”

Of all the outlets that eulogized Byrd, only the Hill bothered to mention that a “young” Byrd not only joined the KKK, but also led his local chapter.

No single obituary of Byrd mentioned his 2001 use of the term “white ******,” an early 20th-century anachronism that Byrd employed not once, but twice during an interview with Tony Snow.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/28/sen-robert-byrd-not-only-was-a-kkk-member-but-led-his-local-klan-chapter/#ixzz0sGB1VSdz

[Catfish]

"20th Century home-grown terrorist" is a good way to describe him, or others in the KKK.

This is like putting some Al Qaeda cocksucker in the senate 40 years from now.

[Jagermeister]

msnbc.com reported that “byrd’s success on the national stage came despite a complicated history on racial matters. As a young man, we was a member of the ku klux klan for a brief period, and he joined southern democrats in an unsuccessful filibuster against the landmark 1964 civil rights.” (the ku klux klan no doubt objects to being called complicated, and has held since day 1 one that there is nothing wishy-washy about castrations, lynchings or burning folks alive.)


No single obituary of Byrd mentioned his 2001 use of the term “white ******,” an early 20th-century anachronism that Byrd employed not once, but twice during an interview with Tony Snow.


lmao!

[Catfish]

To reasonable people, those who are in the KKK are just plain inbred cocksuckers.

To the left, they simply have a complicated history on racial matters.

LMFAO!

Unreal!

[Jagermeister]

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[Jagermeister]

I resent being called narrow minded. :(

[Catfish]

I'm waiting for these pussies to shut this thread down. Even though we're only ripping on someone else who calls Ns, Ns.

It's OK to call someone an N if you're a Dem.

[Catfish]

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/ppc_promo_images/ebony_robertbyrd.jpg

[Jagermeister]

I'm waiting for these pussies to shut this thread down. Even though we're only ripping on someone else who calls Ns, Ns.

It's OK to call someone an N if you're a Dem.


That won't happen untill kkkjhale gets a chance to call me a narrow minded but plug or something similar to that in a post that will look like the following.

[Catfish]

LOL! I wonder if this reached Byrd before he croaked?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3167/kkkbyrdgetwellsoon.jpg

[Catfish]

That won't happen untill kkkjhale gets a chance to call me a narrow minded but plug or something similar to that in a post that will look like the following.

To be fair, it takes a while to cook up an excuse for being in the KKK. Give them time, they'll come through :baaa:

[Jagermeister]

:umm:



Jager you JUST don't get it DO YOU.

You narrow minded but plug. It's PEOPLE LIKE YOU that make people like ME look so good!:fufu:

I am jhale and I am amazing!:dafinger:

[Jagermeister]

To be fair, it takes a while to cook up an excuse for being in the KKK. Give them time, they'll come through :baaa:

LOL yeah.

[Catfish]

LMFAO!!!

Not a bad kkkhale667, dude!

But you forgot to add a bunch of these and a bunch more of these :tongue0011: :umm::barf: to really hammer that point home!

[Jagermeister]

LOL! I wonder if this reached Byrd before he croaked?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3167/kkkbyrdgetwellsoon.jpg


Holy shit! LMAO!

[Jagermeister]

LMFAO!!!

Not a bad kkkhale667, dude!

But you forgot to add a bunch of these and a bunch more of these :tongue0011: :umm::barf: to really hammer that point home!


Oh yeah. Goddamn. I'll fix that.

[Jagermeister]

Now I have never seen this. LOL. Biden is always doing something stupid.


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[Catfish]

Dammit Jager!!! Keep the thread on topic!!!

[Jagermeister]

Dammit Jager!!! Keep the thread on topic!!!

O my bad.


Anyway besides lobbying against the civil rights act did Byrd to anything else worth commenting on?

[Catfish]

http://www.qubetv.tv/photos/6418/RobertByrd2.jpg?1181047598

[Jagermeister]

He was also known as the "King of Pork," using top positions on the Senate Appropriations Committee to steer federal spending to his home state -- one of the nation's poorest.

Byrd relished the title.

From CNN. Something else to be proud of.

[Jagermeister]

While he set two endurance records in Congress, he was only proud of one in the end. The other was for his 1964 filibuster against the Civil Rights Act, when he spoke for 14 hours and 13 minutes in an effort to derail the law.

He opposed civil rights when he first ran for office, a stance he came to regret later in life. He blamed "that Southern atmosphere in which I grew up, with all of its prejudices and its feelings," for his opposition to equal rights, which included joining the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s

Well hell if it's good enough for him I can claim that as my reason for being a racist.

Go fuck your self jhale. See it's not my fault.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I'm waiting for these pussies to shut this thread down. Even though we're only ripping on someone else who calls Ns, Ns.

It's OK to call someone an N if you're a Dem.

Just curious, who specifically are you calling a pussy ??

Nothing's being closed, asshole....

[Jagermeister]

Just curious, who specifically are you calling a pussy ??

Nothing's being closed, asshole....

I don't think he was directing that at you but I could be wrong. ;)

I got no beef with you. You seam to be fair.

[Catfish]

Just curious, who specifically are you calling a pussy ??

Nothing's being closed, asshole....

I wasn't calling you a pussy.

You called me an asshole?

You pussy!!!!

[Catfish]

Pussies like Nickdefelch like to close threads they're getting pummeled in, then sometimes go back and post in them. I'm surprised and impressed with the restraint of some of these pussies by not storming to the defense of Robert KKK Byrd, calling US racists, and then closing the thread :baaa:

[Catfish]

See! The passing and further discussion of Robert KKK Byrd has made being a racist cool again!

[Jagermeister]

Pussies like Nickdefelch like to close threads they're getting pummeled in, then sometimes go back and post in them. I'm surprised and impressed with the restraint of some of these pussies by not storming to the defense of Robert KKK Byrd, calling US racists, and then closing the thread :baaa:

Yeah but ya know Va Beach VH Fan did close the other racist rant thread. I had another story I wanted to post in that thread today.

[Catfish]

Vagina Beach Van Hagar Fan closed that thread? That was one of the most lively discussions I've seen on this site since I came back!

[Jagermeister]

Vagina Beach Van Hagar Fan closed that thread? That was one of the most lively discussions I've seen on this site since I came back!

Well you know I bet Sarge told him to close it. I don't think anyone does anything with out first getting his blessing. Prolly the only reason I am still around is cause Sarge won't let um ban me. :biggrin:

[Catfish]

http://caosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/byrd_kkk1.jpg

[Jagermeister]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6724/porknj6.jpg

[Jagermeister]

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/cgi-bin/cNc/showPage.plx?db=shopmetro&pid=46

Photo: Sen. Robert Byrd apologizing for KKK membership





Will Sen. Byrd Finally Apologize?
January 26, 2005

History someday will show the most egregious filibusters where those mounted by Democratic Senator Robert "KKK" Byrd against civil-rights legislation and the voting acts of the fifties and sixties.

Hoping to become the United States' longest serving member of congress, Sen. Robert Byrd is working hard these days to erase scars left by his horrible past including his long time membership in the Ku Klux Klan.

As late as 2001 Sen. Byrd was caught using the N-word on national television. However still today, few Democrats have publicly condemned Sen. Byrd's racist views.

[jhale667]

Sad day for kkkhale667.

Wasn't a fan, so - not so much.

But please - feel free to FUCK OFF anyway, M'kay? :dafinger:

[Jagermeister]

8 March 2001 Michelle Malkin


Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually used the phrase "white ******" twice on national TV this weekend. Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen. Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not. The ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups and utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are Democrats.


Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually used the phrase "white ******" twice on national TV this weekend. Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen. Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not.

The ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups and utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are Democrats. They belong to the party of racial tolerance and understanding. They're paragons of virtue, and the rest of us are bigoted rubes.

The ex-Klansman showed his true colors when asked by Fox News Sunday morning talk show host Tony Snow about the state of race relations in America. Sen. Byrd warned: "There are white ******s. I've seen a lot of white ******s in my time. I'm going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much."

The ex-Klansman, famed for Beltway blowhardism, should have quit talking a lot sooner. Why any prominent politician in his right mind would publicly and deliberately use the poisonous epithet "******" -- which most daily newspapers refuse to spell out, no matter the context -- is beyond comprehension. It's an open question as to whether the rant-prone, 83-year-old Byrd is even in his right mind, but senility doesn't excuse bigotry.

The ex-Klansman's admirers praise his historical knowledge, mastery of procedural rules, and outspokenness. They refer to the Senate's senior Democrat as the "conscience of the Senate." They downplay his white-sheet-wearing days as a "brief mistake" -- as if joining the Klan were like knocking over a glass of water. Oopsy.

This ex-Klansman wasn't just a passive member of the nation's most notorious hate group. According to news accounts and biographical information, Sen. Byrd was a "Kleagle" -- an official recruiter who signed up members for $10 a head. He said he joined because it "offered excitement" and because the Klan was an "effective force" in "promoting traditional American values." Nothing like the thrill of gathering 'round a midnight bonfire, roasting s'mores, tying nooses, and promoting white supremacy with a bunch of your hooded friends.

The ex-Klansman allegedly ended his ties with the group in 1943. He may have stopped paying dues, but he continued to pay homage to the KKK. Republicans in West Virginia discovered a letter Sen. Byrd had written to the Imperial Wizard of the KKK three years after he says he abandoned the group. He wrote: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia" and "in every state in the Union."

The ex-Klansman later filibustered the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act -- supported by a majority of those "mean-spirited" Republicans -- for more than 14 hours. He also opposed the nominations of the Supreme Court's two black justices, liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas. In fact, the ex-Klansman had the gall to accuse Justice Thomas of "injecting racism" into the Senate hearings. Meanwhile, author Graham Smith recently discovered another letter Sen. Byrd wrote after he quit the KKK, this time attacking desegregation of the armed forces.

The ex-Klansman vowed never to fight "with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

If this ex-Klansman were a conservative Republican, he would never hear the end of his sordid past. "Ex-Klansman who opposed civil rights and black justices" would appear in every reference to Sen. Byrd. And even the "ex-" would be in doubt. Maxine Waters and Ralph Neas and Julianne Malveaux and Al Sharpton and all the other left-wing bloodhounds who sniff racism in every crevice of American life would be barking up a storm over Sen. Byrd's latest fulminations. Instead, the attack dogs are busy decrying latent racial bigotry where it doesn't exist, while the real thing roams wild and free in their own political backyard.

[Jagermeister]

Wasn't a fan, so - not so much.

But please - feel free to FUCK OFF anyway, M'kay? :dafinger:


Oooop! Didn't see that coming. :)

[Jagermeister]

http://jxymxu7sn5ho9d.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/caricature-byrddog.jpg

[Jagermeister]

http://img.wonkette.com/assets/2006/06/senator%20robert%20byrd%20card.jpg

[Jagermeister]

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/11/1/633926813204399190-RobertByrdFormerKKK.jpg

[Catfish]

Wasn't a fan, so - not so much.

But please - feel free to FUCK OFF anyway, M'kay? :dafinger:

LOL!

You predictable twat!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well you know I bet Sarge told him to close it. I don't think anyone does anything with out first getting his blessing. Prolly the only reason I am still around is cause Sarge won't let um ban me. :biggrin:

No one told me to close it, it was a dumbass thread in the wrong forum. And it didn't take long for another similar thread to pop up now, did it ?

[Jagermeister]

No one told me to close it, it was a dumbass thread in the wrong forum. And it didn't take long for another similar thread to pop up now, did it ?


Oh ok.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Vagina Beach Van Hagar Fan closed that thread?

You're hilarious. But lemme give you a bit of advice - Fuck with me on the wrong day and you'll be gone, begging to come back. You've already skirted getting bounced one time, if I were you I wouldn't push it.

[Catfish]

No one told me to close it, it was a dumbass thread in the wrong forum. And it didn't take long for another similar thread to pop up now, did it ?

If you're referring to this thread, I'm not positive it should be compared to the one you closed. This is a discussion about a bigoted, dead democrat senator who has a nasty past with the KKK that the left, including the mainstream media and members of this board, is trying to sweep under the rug.

[Catfish]

You're hilarious. But lemme give you a bit of advice - Fuck with me on the wrong day and you'll be gone, begging to come back. You've already skirted getting bounced one time, if I were you I wouldn't push it.

http://www.scottrouvalis.com/Pics/scared.jpg

[Va Beach VH Fan]

If you're referring to this thread, I'm not positive it should be compared to the one you closed. This is a discussion about a bigoted, dead democrat senator who has a nasty past with the KKK that the left, including the mainstream media and members of this board, is trying to sweep under the rug.

And, it all comes back to the topic of race, does it not ?

All the other stuff is merely semantics, to me anyway....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

http://www.scottrouvalis.com/Pics/scared.jpg

You actually made me laugh with that one... :D

[Catfish]

Great pic, isn't it!

[Catfish]

And, it all comes back to the topic of race, does it not ?

All the other stuff is merely semantics, to me anyway....

Don't be like everyone else and try to pretend that the words "Robert Byrd" and "race" don't go hand in hand.

[Jagermeister]

You're hilarious. But lemme give you a bit of advice - Fuck with me on the wrong day and you'll be gone, begging to come back. You've already skirted getting bounced one time, if I were you I wouldn't push it.

Seriously the worst you could do is ban us and really we wouldn't beg to come back. I don't know what Catfish did to skirt getting "bounced" but no ones ego would be served except yours. I wouldn't give it a second thought and neither would Catfish. So don't go throwing that super mod weight around with us. :biggrin:

[Jagermeister]

http://husaria.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/byrd-kkk.jpg

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Seriously the worst you could do is ban us and really we wouldn't beg to come back. I don't know what Catfish did to skirt getting "bounced" but no ones ego would be served except yours. I wouldn't give it a second thought and neither would Catfish. So don't go throwing that super mod weight around with us. :biggrin:

Please, I could have easily bounced all three of you, and I have full support from both Sarge to do it. But I really HATE that part of the job, that's no bullshit, and that's why I said no.

So you guys, including Nick and JHale and the others, can argue with each other 'til the cows come home, just don't break the rules that Sarge has set, and it's all good. I could really care less about the other stuff.

To be honest, I just want a new VH album so we can focus on better things... :D This place was great during the last tour....

[Catfish]

Shown below getting ready for a big weekend, former clansman Robert Byrd of West Virginia, the longest running Senator in US history, just announced he will endorse Barack Obama.

http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/kkk-red-robe-02-smaller.jpg

Comic Jay Leno, during the monologue for his late night show Monday, broached the Byrd endorsement. “That’s got to make Hillary feel good, huh? Even the Klan guy is going, ‘I’m going with the black guy.’”

[Jagermeister]

Please, I could have easily bounced all three of you, and I have full support from both Sarge to do it. But I really HATE that part of the job, that's no bullshit, and that's why I said no.

So you guys, including Nick and JHale and the others, can argue with each other 'til the cows come home, just don't break the rules that Sarge has set, and it's all good. I could really care less about the other stuff.

To be honest, I just want a new VH album so we can focus on better things... :D This place was great during the last tour....


Unlike you I don't hold Sarge in such high regard. Yet I have never broken a rule as far as I know. Of course I have not read the fucking rules so I can't say for sure. As far as the ban thing goes let me say this in my best jhale.

I really don't give a fuck I just do not care but I do my best to contribute to the board. Why ?Because If I am going to waste time here why not make it a positive experience for everyone. Well at least for me.:dafinger:

[Jagermeister]

http://friskaliberal.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/robert-byrd-jokerized.jpg

[Jagermeister]

Really though how the fuck did this guy stay in office so long? Virginia must have some mighty pissed off white voters in it.

[Catfish]

Really though how the fuck did this guy stay in office so long? Virginia must have some mighty pissed off white voters in it.

kkkhale667 voted for him many times while he was living in Byrd's state. And he's the angriest person I know!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Unlike you I don't hold Sarge in such high regard. Yet I have never broken a rule as far as I know. Of course I have not read the fucking rules so I can't say for sure. As far as the ban thing goes let me say this in my best jhale.

I really don't give a fuck I just do not care but I do my best to contribute to the board. Why ?Because If I am going to waste time here why not make it a positive experience for everyone. Well at least for me.:dafinger:

why low respect for sarge? you know you have posted the horrific n-word multiple times, and that is breaking a rule.

[Catfish]

why low respect for sarge? You know you have posted the horrific n-word multiple times, and that is breaking a rule.

lol!!!!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Unlike you I don't hold Sarge in such high regard.

Why don't you bring up the subject with him ? I'm sure he'd listen to your views....

[Jagermeister]

Why don't you bring up the subject with him ? I'm sure he'd listen to your views....

No he wouldn't.

And to be honest that's just fine with me.

[Jagermeister]

why low respect for sarge? you know you have posted the horrific n-word multiple times, and that is breaking a rule.


Um no I have not.

[Nickdfresh]

http://jxymxu7sn5ho9d.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/caricature-byrddog.jpg

Um, idiot. If you're going to spam a thread with pictures, do it in the Political Cartoons thread. This isn't post a pic spam'athon...

And he was in the Klan like 100 years ago...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I disagree. I'm not saying he's going to change his mind in terms of rules he wants enforced on his board that he pays for, but he'll at least listen to your concerns....

[Jagermeister]

Um, idiot. If you're going to spam a thread with pictures, do it in the Political Cartoons thread. This isn't post a pic spam'athon...

Fuck did I break a rule?

[Nickdfresh]

More like a guideline. A couple of pics are okay, but pic after pic is annoying in threads which is why we have the Cartoon thread...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

lol!!!!

ror!!!

[Jagermeister]

I disagree. I'm not saying he's going to change his mind in terms of rules he wants enforced on his board that he pays for, but he'll at least listen to your concerns....

I voiced my concerns in the thread you closed today. I just read through that again and I think it's pretty clear. I use to think that a board could get members and grow but I don't think so anymore. We are all dinosaurs. Every time someone new makes a post we jump all over them and assume they are a threat to us somehow. I just don't get it. I read something in that forum update thread that struck me as odd. Someone didn't want to send any personal info to donate. I think it may have even been to you. WTF? Did they think you were going to somehow show up at there door in the middle of dinner?

I use to send disc's to people all the time and vis versa at ddlr.com. I must have sent a dozen to Catfish and never thought a thing about. That shit pisses me off. We should be able to trade or voice an opinion with out feeling like we are going to get mugged. This board will never be that way because of Sarge. He let this mother fucker get out of control years ago and it has never got back on track. That's opinion. Von did a better job and had a more respectable membership.

Anyway that's why I don't care. We can be no more than irritating badgers to each other. Serves no useful purpose other than to waste time.

[Jagermeister]

More like a guideline. A couple of pics are okay, but pic after pic is annoying in threads which is why we have the Cartoon thread...


Ok.....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I just don't get it. I read something in that forum update thread that struck me as odd. Someone didn't want to send any personal info to donate. I think it may have even been to you. WTF? Did they think you were going to somehow show up at there door in the middle of dinner?

Yeah, I remember that, never did find out who it was... The important part was that they eventually made the donation to Sarge....

[Jagermeister]

Yeah, I remember that, never did find out who it was... The important part was that they eventually made the donation to Sarge....

Good for them. There donation insures I will continue to entertain them. I don't think they have posted a damn thing since I have been here.

[Catfish]

Um, idiot. If you're going to spam a thread with pictures, do it in the Political Cartoons thread. This isn't post a pic spam'athon...

And he was in the Klan like 100 years ago...

Uh, I think you're wrong.

This isn't spamming a thread. This artwork is completely on topic. It's a cartoon about Robert KKK Byrd, whom this thread is about.

Now, please, stay on topic. Just because you don't like us bashing a KKK leader, doesn't mean it doesn't belong :baaa:

[jhale667]

And, it all comes back to the topic of race, does it not ?



Clearly it's a subject they obsess on. Must strain those tiny little things they're using for brains.


(They ♥ cock, too!)

[Catfish]

More like a guideline. A couple of pics are okay, but pic after pic is annoying in threads which is why we have the Cartoon thread...

ESPECIALLY when Nickdfelch and his leftist suck dicks disagree with those pics!

[Jagermeister]

Clearly it's a subject they obsess on. Must strain those tiny little things they're using for brains.


(I ♥ cock, too!)




No shit jhale. :biggrin:

[Catfish]

I voiced my concerns in the thread you closed today. I just read through that again and I think it's pretty clear. I use to think that a board could get members and grow but I don't think so anymore. We are all dinosaurs. Every time someone new makes a post we jump all over them and assume they are a threat to us somehow. I just don't get it. I read something in that forum update thread that struck me as odd. Someone didn't want to send any personal info to donate. I think it may have even been to you. WTF? Did they think you were going to somehow show up at there door in the middle of dinner?

I use to send disc's to people all the time and vis versa at ddlr.com. I must have sent a dozen to Catfish and never thought a thing about. That shit pisses me off. We should be able to trade or voice an opinion with out feeling like we are going to get mugged. This board will never be that way because of Sarge. He let this mother fucker get out of control years ago and it has never got back on track. That's opinion. Von did a better job and had a more respectable membership.

Anyway that's why I don't care. We can be no more than irritating badgers to each other. Serves no useful purpose other than to waste time.

This is a great post!

This site does jump on newbies, and unfairly. It's an old-boys network (like Byrd's KKK boys--see, I'm staying on topic), filled with mods who jerk each other off all day in mod forums and then occasionally show their heads to wave their dicks around.

[Catfish]

Clearly it's a subject they obsess on. Must strain those tiny little things they're using for brains.


(They ♥ cock, too!)

As I told VA Beach, Robert Byrd and race go hand in hand.

Just like when he had his dick in your hand all those years you supported his views while living in West Virginia!

[Catfish]

kkkhale667, you said your ex-fiancee's family was in the KKK. Were they related to Robert KKK Byrd?

[jhale667]

kkkhale667, you said your ex-fiancee's family was in the KKK. Were they related to Robert KKK Byrd?

Contrary to popular opinion, everyone there isn't related, you knuckle-dragging douche.

[Catfish]

Contrary to popular opinion, everyone there isn't related, you knuckle-dragging douche.

I wasn't asking about everyone. I was only asking about your ex-fiancee's family.

My bad.

Let me re-phrase the question in a manner in which you will understand:

kkkhale667, you said your ex-fiancee's family was in the KKK :pullinghair:. Were they related to Robert KKK Byrd?:dafinger:

:finger33:

[jhale667]

all those years you supported his views

Where did I say that, fuckhead? Quit making shit up as you go along.

[Nickdfresh]

ESPECIALLY when Nickdfelch and his leftist suck dicks disagree with those pics!

Well CattyBitch, you're resembling that thing in your avatar more and more every day, you angry little middle aged tool...

[Catfish]

Where did I say that, fuckhead? Quit making shit up as you go along.

Well, you used to live in WV, nearly married into the KKK, and now support/defend criminals who loot and set shit on fire after NBA basketball games.

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out :baaa:

[Catfish]

Well CattyBitch, you're resembling that thing in your avatar more and more every day, you angry little middle aged tool...

Thanks!

Don't forget constipated! I haven't had a decent shite in days!

[Catfish]

I love how the pussy lefty mods lay low until they can get together and post in unison, then come in strong with "middle aged tool" and "They ♥ cock."

Strong!

[Catfish]

http://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/byrd-lynching.jpg

Oh, that's OK! Byrd hasn't supported this kind of thing for a LONG TIME!

[Nickdfresh]

Or mods that don't have time to sit on message boards all day?

And of course you're full of shit...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Um no I have not.

i guess you are correct, i looked thru that whole damn thread and this was all i found.

"Goddamn dude you were me out. I never said I wanted to lynch me a kneegrow! I never said anything about even harming one. I just said I don't like um.

For fuck sakes!

You better watch it or I'll start making shit up about how great a guitar player you are. "

i apologize.:baaa:

[Jagermeister]

I love how the pussy lefty mods lay low until they can get together and post in unison, then come in strong with "middle aged tool" and "They ♥ cock."

Strong!

No shit. It's no problem though. You really can't argue the fact that Byrd was a racist pig just like me. But with his exuse all is forgiven.

[Jagermeister]

i guess you are correct, i looked thru that whole damn thread and this was all i found.

"Goddamn dude you were me out. I never said I wanted to lynch me a kneegrow! I never said anything about even harming one. I just said I don't like um.

For fuck sakes!

You better watch it or I'll start making shit up about how great a guitar player you are. "

i apologize.:baaa:


LOL yeah I never used the N word. Elvis did but not me. Yet.

[Jagermeister]

Do a search for the n word and see what happens. LMAO!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i tried that, every thread came up i think.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i tried that, every thread came up i think.

well, no, but quite a few.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Do a search for the n word and see what happens. LMAO!

You do realize I edited the word everywhere I saw it, right ?

[Jagermeister]

You do realize I edited the word everywhere I saw it, right ?

No u didn't. I didn't post it and u don't work that hard.:)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I didn't say "from you", I said "where I saw it"....

[chefcraig]

I didn't say "from you", I said "where I saw it"....

Well how hard can that be? All you need to do is click on ELVIS' profile. :biggrin:

[LoungeMachine]

This forum is becoming an excuse for little boys to say things they would never say to someone face to face.

You ignorant, internet tough guys crack me up.

:gulp:

And your obsession/jealousy of what is or isn't discussed in the mod room cracks me up.

You only WISH we talked about you.

[LoungeMachine]

Well how hard can that be? All you need to do is click on ELVIS' profile. :biggrin:

ELVIRA is a perfect example.

He'd never have the balls to drop an N-Bomb to someone on the street he thought was a "lowlife"

:gulp:

Bet he talks to his black co-workers with utmost respect, too.

But here, he feels safe to just "kid around" with his racist shit.

[chefcraig]

But here, he feels safe to just "kid around" with his racist shit.

The thing is, in some cases it is not just a matter of kidding around. I can only imagine what would happen if one of my co-workers or boss saw me reading, let alone responding to some of the drivel that gets written on this site at times. It's one of the reasons I tend to avoid the FL during the work day, much the same as I don't go into the Picture-Palooza thread either. It simply isn't worth the hassle. There are several sites not accessible through the filters we have set up, as that is part of working for a municipality. So I'll be damned if I'll screw up being able to view this site during the day by taking any unnecessary chances when people choose to just "kid around".

[Jagermeister]

This forum is becoming an excuse for little boys to say things they would never say to someone face to face.

You ignorant, internet tough guys crack me up.

:gulp:

And your obsession/jealousy of what is or isn't discussed in the mod room cracks me up.

You only WISH we talked about you.

Hey lounge. I have given you respect and a wide birth. No need to go poking your turtle head out now. You don't scare me any. Really.

[Jagermeister]

The thing is, in some cases it is not just a matter of kidding around. I can only imagine what would happen if one of my co-workers or boss saw me reading, let alone responding to some of the drivel that gets written on this site at times. It's one of the reasons I tend to avoid the FL during the work day, much the same as I don't go into the Picture-Palooza thread either. It simply isn't worth the hassle. There are several sites not accessible through the filters we have set up, as that is part of working for a municipality. So I'll be damned if I'll screw up being able to view this site during the day by taking any unnecessary chances when people choose to just "kid around".


I again would like to say I have never broken one of Sarge's golden fucking rules. I can't be responcible for what anyone can do at work. While urmmm not working. ;)

[Nickdfresh]

No shit. It's no problem though. You really can't argue the fact that Byrd was a racist pig just like me. But with his exuse all is forgiven.

How fascinating that you need this sort of validation for your belief system...

Firstly, Byrd was in the Klan in like the 1930s IIRC. So, um, he can't really be pigeonholed by that just like the fact that many politicians were drawn to radical groups in their youth. I don't think you can merely judge someone by what they did in their 20s. But if it makes you sleep better at night, more power too ya'...

[Jagermeister]

How fascinating that you need this sort of validation for your belief system...

Firstly, Byrd was in the Klan in like the 1930s IIRC. So, um, he can't really be pigeonholed by that just like the fact that many politicians were drawn to radical groups in their youth. I don't think you can merely judge someone by what they did in their 20s. But if it makes you sleep better at night, more power too ya'...


Unlike Byrd I didn't change (alter)my views so I could better my career or be politicaly correct. HE was a racist till the day he died.

[Jagermeister]

Again I don't make this shit up. It is right out of history and the news. You are free to form your own opinions.

[Nickdfresh]

Unlike Byrd I didn't change (alter)my views so I could better my career or be politicaly correct. HE was a racist till the day he died.

How the fuck would you know? In fact, one didn't have to be particularly racist to join the Klan way back when...

[Unchainme]

my main issue with Bird is that I believe he very much so represents why there should be term limits in the house and the senate

the amount of money he has waisted on things like a monorail system for WVU and other things of that nature is rather ridicolous

I don't believe in his later years he was really that bad of a guy, I believe that a person's view point on things can change, and I suppose I'll take the guys word for it, rather than just think otherwise. Fundamentally I agree with what his politics were, but I was rather impressed to hear how well versed he was with the constitution and the bill of rights, something I wish more politicians would further emulate in that respect.

[Catfish]

This forum is becoming an excuse for little boys to say things they would never say to someone face to face.

You ignorant, internet tough guys crack me up.

You're right. I'd never have the balls to refer to Robert KKK Byrd as a pig who is given special treatment because of leftist dick sucks on this board! That would take craaaaaazy balls!!!


And your obsession/jealousy of what is or isn't discussed in the mod room cracks me up.

You only WISH we talked about you.

I never said you talk about me and Jagermeister in there. I just said y'all sit in there all day sucking each other off instead of making the real boards more interesting. You know, like Mods should!

Learn to read! :baaa:

[Catfish]

How the fuck would you know? In fact, one didn't have to be particularly racist to join the Klan way back when...

Oh my God!

Nickdefelch is DEFENDING those who join the KKK!

I don't even have the balls to do that!

Jesus Christ!

[Catfish]

The thing is, in some cases it is not just a matter of kidding around. I can only imagine what would happen if one of my co-workers or boss saw me reading, let alone responding to some of the drivel that gets written on this site at times. It's one of the reasons I tend to avoid the FL during the work day, much the same as I don't go into the Picture-Palooza thread either. It simply isn't worth the hassle. There are several sites not accessible through the filters we have set up, as that is part of working for a municipality. So I'll be damned if I'll screw up being able to view this site during the day by taking any unnecessary chances when people choose to just "kid around".

These are quality points!

As long as the Dems support and defend pigs like Robert KKK Byrd, we'll have plenty to "kid around" about! :baaa:

[chefcraig]

I again would like to say I have never broken one of Sarge's golden fucking rules. I can't be responcible for what anyone can do at work. While urmmm not working. ;)

In no way am I saying that you (or anyone else) should govern yourself, I'm merely pointing out a truism about work. If you are sitting in an open office, you more than likely are not going to be looking at porn pics, right? However, no matter what you are viewing, other people seem naturally attracted to what amounts to be a television set. Look, people need to be responsible for their own actions, that's all. In the workplace, that includes what you are posting as well as what you are viewing. As such, I've made a personal decision as to what constitutes viable internet "viewing" while supposedly working. Once home, I'm free to check out the sites I wouldn't even contemplate looking at while at work, and this is nothing more than common sense. As much as I'd love to sit around at work in my underwear drinking beer, for one reason or another my boss frowns upon this activity. No biggie, I'll wait until I get home to do so. And that same reasoning works as applied to the internet. I'm not attempting to tell anyone what they should or should not post, I'm merely pointing out the practical means for not responding to it. Tempting as it may be at times, more often than not, it simply isn't worth the trouble.

[Nickdfresh]

You're right. I'd never have the balls to refer to Robert KKK Byrd as a pig who is given special treatment because of leftist dick sucks on this board! That would take craaaaaazy balls!!!

A.) Always with the balls and cock, you're very fascinated with male genitalia

B.) Nobody is giving anyone "special treatment." How the fuck are we "leftist mods" giving a corpse special treatment?


I never said you talk about me and Jagermeister in there. I just said y'all sit in there all day sucking each other off instead of making the real boards more interesting. You know, like Mods should!

Learn to read! :baaa:

I think Catfish is mad for the cock™ ...

[Catfish]

A.) Always with the balls and cock, you're very fascinated with male genitalia

B.) Nobody is giving anyone "special treatment." How the fuck are we "leftist mods" giving a corpse special treatment?



I think Catfish is mad for the cock™ ...

Uh... Okay???

[Jagermeister]

I found this interesting. This man was a racist through and through.

Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan as a 24 year old in 1942. His adopted father had been a klansmen, and he had grown up watching klan processions in his hometown. At various times, he held the positions of grand cyclops (leader of local chapter) and kleagle (recruiter). While admitting his involvement in the KKK, Byrd claims that he left the klan in early 1943. That seems unlikely, however, since a letter written by Byrd to a Grand Wizard in 1946 or 1947 indicates that Byrd was willing and ready to help spread the klan to every state in the nation. This would seem to indicate that he still held the kleagle title at that time.

We cannot know when exactly Byrd cut his ties with the klan, but it was certainly long before 1952 when he ran for the United States House of Representatives. By that time, he said he no longer had any interest in it and that he had signed up as a young, immature man because he thought it offered excitement and he approved of its strong opposition to communism.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/493331/senator_robert_byrd_and_the_kkk.html

[Catfish]

I found this interesting. This man was a racist through and through.

Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan as a 24 year old in 1942. His adopted father had been a klansmen, and he had grown up watching klan processions in his hometown. At various times, he held the positions of grand cyclops (leader of local chapter) and kleagle (recruiter). While admitting his involvement in the KKK, Byrd claims that he left the klan in early 1943. That seems unlikely, however, since a letter written by Byrd to a Grand Wizard in 1946 or 1947 indicates that Byrd was willing and ready to help spread the klan to every state in the nation. This would seem to indicate that he still held the kleagle title at that time.

We cannot know when exactly Byrd cut his ties with the klan, but it was certainly long before 1952 when he ran for the United States House of Representatives. By that time, he said he no longer had any interest in it and that he had signed up as a young, immature man because he thought it offered excitement and he approved of its strong opposition to communism.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/493331/senator_robert_byrd_and_the_kkk.html

Well, that can't be right? MSNBC.com reports that Byrd only had "a complicated history on racial matters."