George Lynch and Don Dokken on That Metal Show [Archive]

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 12:32 PM

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:03 PM

Don Dokken doesn't have a good enough voice to look like that.

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:11 PM

What the fuck was that bitch talking about, Michael McDonald wrote VH's "I'll Wait"???? And they gave her a prize for that???

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:14 PM

What the fuck was that bitch talking about, Michael McDonald wrote VH's "I'll Wait"???? And they gave her a prize for that???

I didn't see that. I skipped right to the interview.

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:17 PM

It's at the end, dumbass!

ELVIS

07-01-2010, 02:22 PM

Dokken has always sucked!

ELVIS

07-01-2010, 02:23 PM

Here's proof!

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:biggrin:

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:24 PM

It's at the end, dumbass!

Yeah I saw it.

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:26 PM

Lynch kicks ass.

ELVIS

07-01-2010, 02:29 PM

Yeah ??

Watch that clip...

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:30 PM

Dokken complains that the guitar player is too loud?

What a pussy!

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:31 PM

I saw Dokken once and had a great time. Only because when Don did his, "What rhymes with rockin'???" thing we'd scream, "FUCK YOU!!!!"

Mr Walker

07-01-2010, 02:33 PM

George Lynch is friends with Wooda

ELVIS

07-01-2010, 02:34 PM

No dude, knockin', sockin', blockin', mockin' etc...

Not FU !!!

:biggrin:

LoungeMachine

07-01-2010, 02:37 PM

George Lynch is friends with Wooda

You mean Jagermeister?

:gulp:

Mr Walker

07-01-2010, 02:39 PM

I don't think Jagermeister is friends with George Lynch or Wooda.

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:40 PM

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:42 PM

I don't think Jagermeister is friends with George Lynch or Wooda.

That's true.

Well I think wooda is a friend. Like you though he thinks I'm a dumbass.

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:43 PM

I saw Dokken once and had a great time. Only because when Don did his, "What rhymes with rockin'???" thing we'd scream, "FUCK YOU!!!!"

lol Goddamn.

Catfish

07-01-2010, 02:43 PM

George Lynch is friends with Wooda

Wooda doesn't have any friends!

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:44 PM

Yeah ??

Watch that clip...

It's live shit happens. :biggrin:

sonrisa salvaje

07-01-2010, 02:48 PM

I don't see how anyone can listen to Tooth and Nail or Under Lock and Key and come away disappointed. Those are bonafide classics!

Jagermeister

07-01-2010, 02:48 PM

Wooda doesn't have any friends!

Him and Mr. Walker are pretty tight.

binnie

07-01-2010, 04:27 PM

Dokken has always sucked!

Yup. I've never understood the appeal....

binnie

07-01-2010, 04:28 PM

Don Dokken doesn't have a good enough voice to look like that.

I actually just fell over having read that! Outstanding!

sadaist

07-01-2010, 07:43 PM

I don't see how anyone can listen to Tooth and Nail or Under Lock and Key and come away disappointed. Those are bonafide classics!

Yeppers. Two terrific albums. But apparently I haven't paid enough attention to all things Dokken. Lynch is back? Fuck, how long have I been under this rock?

And Don Dokken is a tool. Even Jack Russell is cooler than this guy. But Don thinks he is George Clooney, Diamond Dave, and Jesus Christ all wrapped up in one.

Va Beach VH Fan

07-01-2010, 08:21 PM

Thanks for posting. Always have thought Lynch was a very underrated guitarist. I wouldn't mind seeing a reunited Dokken.....

VanHalenFan5150

07-01-2010, 09:18 PM

Dokken is a very under-rated band. My guitar teacher is a big fan of Lynch so one day I looked up George Lynch. One guitar solo and I seriously reconsidered my music choices

SilvioDante

07-02-2010, 06:22 AM

Back in the '80's, loved Dokken. I got to see them in concert once, the 1988 Monsters of Rock show in Indianapolis. It was really hard to watch. First, they went on after Metallica, and Metallica was the best band there that day BY FAR. Then, Dokken was just awful. Don's vocals sucked, George seemed to break a string every 5 seconds... They were just a train wreck. The Scorpions went on after them and made them look even worse. My feelings for them changed that day.

Tooth and Nail has some good spots, I like Under Lock and Key, and Mr. Scary is easily the highlight of Back for the Attack. I still like some Lynch Mob, but no use really for anything else...

ULTRAMAN VH

07-02-2010, 07:17 AM

Geez, Don looks like a hobo. Someone get him a stick with a nap sack attached to the end of it. I always liked Dokken for the Lynch factor. George was and still is a great guitarist. Dokken always struggled to be a top tier hardrock band. I don't think they ever hit headline status. They were still opening for bands during the Under Lock and Key tour. Saw them open for Twisted Sister in 85 and TS should have stayed in their dressing rooms. Dokken was on that night and Lynch was tearing up the fret board. TS came on and they played Leader Of The Pack early in their set and me and my buds said f#*K this and left. I was 17 at the time and watching 4 hairy guys from New York dressed in pink was just absurd. I believe that was the beginning of the end for TS that year anyway. Dokken had some good tunes but like Quiet Riot, RATT and others of that era, they were just riding the coat tails of The Mighty Van Halen. VH was MIA in 1985 which allowed bands like Dokken, RATT and TS to enjoy a little fame before fading into hair band obscurity.

Jagermeister

07-02-2010, 08:40 AM

Geez, Don looks like a hobo. Someone get him a stick with a nap sack attached to the end of it. I always liked Dokken for the Lynch factor. George was and still is a great guitarist. Dokken always struggled to be a top tier hardrock band. I don't think they ever hit headline status. They were still opening for bands during the Under Lock and Key tour. Saw them open for Twisted Sister in 85 and TS should have stayed in their dressing rooms. Dokken was on that night and Lynch was tearing up the fret board. TS came on and they played Leader Of The Pack early in their set and me and my buds said f#*K this and left. I was 17 at the time and watching 4 hairy guys from New York dressed in pink was just absurd. I believe that was the beginning of the end for TS that year anyway. Dokken had some good tunes but like Quiet Riot, RATT and others of that era, they were just riding the coat tails of The Mighty Van Halen. VH was MIA in 1985 which allowed bands like Dokken, RATT and TS to enjoy a little fame before fading into hair band obscurity.

RATT has a new album out and it's kickass.

tojoro

07-02-2010, 10:23 AM

Though his voice had some oopph, I always thought Don was the weak link in the band. Sappy lyrics. They got more cheeseball as time wore on, when I think the other three just wanted to rock the fuck out.
Poor Lynch must still wonder what could have been. His manager never told him Ozzy was looking for a guitar player when Rhoads got the gig in '79, and he was told he got the gig in '82, but then it was taken from him and given to Lee instead.

Jagermeister

07-02-2010, 10:28 AM

Though his voice had some oopph, I always thought Don was the weak link in the band. Sappy lyrics. They got more cheeseball as time wore on, when I think the other three just wanted to rock the fuck out.
Poor Lynch must still wonder what could have been. His manager never told him Ozzy was looking for a guitar player when Rhoads got the gig in '79, and he was told he got the gig in '82, but then it was taken from him and given to Lee instead.

Poor Lynch. LOL. His ego was so huge back then I am sure he wasn't worried about it.

ELVIS

07-02-2010, 11:14 AM

He's not all that great a player...

sonrisa salvaje

07-05-2010, 10:37 AM

He's not all that great a player...

I'm not a guitar player so this is difficult for me to grasp. To those that play guitar, this may be something that is generally known but my perception has always been that Lynch was widely accepted as a damn fine guitar player and thought well of by his peers. Thus, i have to ask why you have this opinion? Is it that his solos aren't showy enough? Does he have a technical flaw that is identifiable in his playing? Does he take shortcuts to get around them?
Please, for the love of all that is heavy metal, break the code and tell me.

ELVIS

07-05-2010, 10:45 AM

His playing and his very repetitive and simplistic and he was never a good live player...

He doesn't suck but he's not a guitar hero either...

sonrisa salvaje

07-05-2010, 10:50 AM

Hey, i can respect that opinion. Appreciate the response.

Seshmeister

07-05-2010, 11:06 AM

Though his voice had some oopph, I always thought Don was the weak link in the band. Sappy lyrics. They got more cheeseball as time wore on, when I think the other three just wanted to rock the fuck out.
Poor Lynch must still wonder what could have been. His manager never told him Ozzy was looking for a guitar player when Rhoads got the gig in '79, and he was told he got the gig in '82, but then it was taken from him and given to Lee instead.

He would have been an adequate replacement in 1982 but Lee was better. Him missing out in both cases are just more examples of the incredible luck of Ozzy.

ELVIS

07-05-2010, 11:07 AM

Jake was a very entertaining live player...

bueno bob

07-05-2010, 09:15 PM

Always been a Dokken fan...well, up til 2002 or so. Lynch and Pilson always wrote pretty damn well together, considering. Mick's a solid drummer, and he's definitely held up better than most of his contemporaries. A live Dokken show is always a lot of fun.

You can't underestimate Don, either. The guy's a studio wizard and, having seen him play guitar live a few times, an OUTSTANDING guitarist, and that's one of his best kept secrets. Fair bassist, also. I found him a funny, considerate, down to Earth and somewhat self-depreciating guy and a lot of fun to hang around with as far as professional musicians are concerned.

Elvis is right that Lynch really isn't all that much to write home about. Great at what he does, but he can't do much else.

Good to know that the real Dokken is coming back soon, though. Hopefully the bulk of the writing is left to George and Jeff, they definitely know how to pull off a proper Dokken album (although the last one, Lightning Strikes Again, was very well done and the closest thing to a traditional Dokken album since Back for the Attack).

Breaking the Chains, Tooth and Nail, Under Lock and Key and Back for the Attack easily trump 95% of anything it was lumped in with back in the day...

Seshmeister

07-05-2010, 11:13 PM

Do you not think though that Back For The Attack was over long by about 4 tracks?

Also apparently by that point DD was writing separately from the rest of them, bolting on melodies to completed tracks and it definitely sounds a bit like that to me, a bit samey and formulaic.

All that said there are some very good songs, Burning Like a Flame is excellent(although what retard came up with the video?).

bueno bob

07-06-2010, 03:17 AM

Truth - the Burning Like a Flame video was ghey. At the time I thought it might have been a bit overlong, but as the years have gone on, I really couldn't imagine it being much different. Definitely one of my favorite albums from 1987, and...Dream Warriors takes me right back to 8th grade, waiting in line to see it in the theater...God, what a great fucking time that was!

sonrisa salvaje

07-06-2010, 11:44 AM

Do you not think though that Back For The Attack was over long by about 4 tracks?

Also apparently by that point DD was writing separately from the rest of them, bolting on melodies to completed tracks and it definitely sounds a bit like that to me, a bit samey and formulaic.

All that said there are some very good songs, Burning Like a Flame is excellent(although what retard came up with the video?).

It was definitely long by about 4 tracks -one track that comes to mind is Just Walk Away. Songs like Kiss of Death and Standing in the Shadows are excellent.

I really enjoyed Don Dokken's Up From the Ashes album. I thought it was an adequate sequel to a Dokken album and better than anything that has been done since by any form of Dokken.