Ozzy Osbourne 2010 Tour Thead (and other shit...)

[atomicpunk5151]

Looks like Ozzy is over in Europe this week for a few dates. Then back to the States for OZZFEST.

Anyways I heard they had soundchecked "Killer of Giants", but I thought NO WAY do they play it.....

Check out the Set list from Italy 7/5/10

1.Bark at the Moon
2.Let Me Hear You Scream
3.Mr. Crowley
4.I Don't Know
5.Fairies Wear Boots (Black Sabbath cover)
6.Suicide Solution
7.Road To Nowhere
8.Shot In The Dark
9.Rat Salad with guitar and drum solos (Black Sabbath cover)
10.Iron Man (Black Sabbath cover)
11.Killer Of Giants
12.I Don't Want to Change the World
13.War Pigs (Black Sabbath cover)
14.Crazy Train
Encore:
15.Paranoid (Black Sabbath cover)

+++

any video of this yet???

Still checking if it is legit.

[Jagermeister]

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[binnie]

Glad to see that the setlist has been freshened up - can't say I'd like to hear 'Road To Nowhere', but I'm nit-picking....

[ELVIS]

Ozzy don't sound half bad in that clip...

[ELVIS]

Gus does a very respectable Rhoads...


:rockit:

[sonrisa salvaje]

Glad to see that the setlist has been freshened up - can't say I'd like to hear 'Road To Nowhere', but I'm nit-picking....

I agree with you. Could do without I Don't Want To Change the World as well. Nice to see Killer of Giants in there. I don't think Shot in the Dark has ever really left the set list. It makes me wonder, though, why he would do 2 songs from an album that you can't hardly find anymore and they have pretty much tried to bury? Seems like you may spark interest in newer fans that have never heard Killer of Giants and they may want to pick up the disc.

[ELVIS]

Yeah, with Jake replaced by Gus E. Gee...

[binnie]

I agree with you. Could do without I Don't Want To Change the World as well. Nice to see Killer of Giants in there. I don't think Shot in the Dark has ever really left the set list. It makes me wonder, though, why he would do 2 songs from an album that you can't hardly find anymore and they have pretty much tried to bury? Seems like you may spark interest in newer fans that have never heard Killer of Giants and they may want to pick up the disc.

Until this year, I don't think that Ozzy played 'Shot....' in a looooong time.

[atomicpunk5151]

Until this year, I don't think that Ozzy played 'Shot....' in a looooong time.

Yeah Binnie is right. Looking back at bootlegs & setlists, Ozzy hasn't played Shot in the Dark since maybe late 1992. Ozzy always slagged the Ultimate Sin material the last 10 years or so. It also had something to do with the lawsuit from Soussan in later years.

They played it a ton (probably every show) from 86-92. After Zakk left and Joe Holmes came in it on the 95 tour it was gone. Even when Zakk came back in 98 and then again in 2001 they were playing other songs.

I was in shock when they played it (Shot) on the Kimmel show. If he really did add "Killer of Giants" I would be floored. They haven't played Killer of Giants since the 86-87 tour with Jake.

[sonrisa salvaje]

I didn't realize he had dropped Shot after 1992. I could have sworn i heard it on the Ozzmosis tour but i don't have anything to legitimately support that. I didn't see Down to Earth or Black Rain so there you go. The last time i saw Ozzy was during the Black Sab reunions at Ozzfest, 1999 i think it was. Makes me wonder even more why these are back in the set. Maybe Gus is partial to that record.

[atomicpunk5151]

BTW a few other suprises there. I don't think they have ever jammed on Rat Salad in the Ozzy solo days. Even when Joe Holmes and the band would do a Sabbath medley in the mid/late 90s, I don't think they did that.

Fairies Wear Boots is also pretty rare. They did that one at a few of those Canadian shows in 2003 when they were playing over 2 hours with a ton of Sabbath.

[Seshmeister]

Gus does a very respectable Rhoads...

Hmm.

Hard to get excited about that band.

[Jagermeister]

I bet the set list changes a bunch. He is going to be on tour for fucking ever thanks to Sharon. He may not live through this one.

[atomicpunk5151]

I didn't realize he had dropped Shot after 1992. I could have sworn i heard it on the Ozzmosis tour but i don't have anything to legitimately support that.

SS,

This was the typical Ozzmosis set list in 1995 with Joe Holmes. Quite a few bootlegs and video out there from this era.

01. Paranoid
02. Desire
03. I Don't Know
04. Flying High Away
05. Goodbay To Romance
06. No More Tears
07. I Just Want You
08. I Don't Want To Change The World
09. Suicide Solution
10. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
11. Children Of The Grave
12. Mr. Crowley
13. War Pigs
14. Crazy Train
15. Mama, I'm Comig Home
16. Bark At The Moon


They also played Perry Mason, Iron Man & Sweet Leaf on occasions.

[sonrisa salvaje]

Thanks bro!

[Diamondjimi]

His band looks like a bunch of over-animated Muppets. Gus seems to be part of the new generation of guitarist's where throwing in pinched harmonics every 5th note seems to be the norm.:indifferent0020:


Gus does a very respectable Rhoads...

Meh...
To my ears he sounds like he just learned it.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Gus seems to be part of the new generation of guitarist's where throwing in pinched harmonics every 5th note seems to be the norm.:indifferent0020:

Drives me nuts....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Here's what Pollstar has for Ozzfest;

Sat 08/14/10 Devore, CA San Manuel Amphitheater
Tue 08/17/10 Tinley Park, IL First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre
Thu 08/19/10 Burgettstown, PA First Niagara Pavilion
Sat 08/21/10 Hartford, CT Comcast Theatre
Sun 08/22/10 Camden, NJ Susquehanna Bank Center
Tue 08/24/10 Mansfield, MA Comcast Center
Sat 09/18/10 London, United Kingdom The O2 - London

[ELVIS]

Ozzy is coming to the new Orleans Voodoo Fest in October...

[binnie]

That was a decent enough performance - maybe the band will gell as time progresses.....

[Seshmeister]

The only thing that would make me go to another Ozzy show would be if Jake E Lee came back.

For people who saw him back in the day going to see him now would be like watching and listening to a wounded animal.

[Seshmeister]

Until this year, I don't think that Ozzy played 'Shot....' in a looooong time.

I remember many quotes where he said the whole album was complete garbage.

The problem with Shot is that he can't sing the chorus live. It's interesting they've added Killer of Giants but it is let down too by it's chorus.

This is the problem when other people write the melodies to your songs while you lie in a stupor.

[Seshmeister]

That was a decent enough performance - maybe the band will gell as time progresses.....

They can work their way up to average.

[binnie]

They are better than average - it's not like they're bar band musicians.

Great? Nope, not by a long way. But it's a new band, and it'll take a little time to gell. I'm really not sure why he got rid of Mike Bordin? Maybe his commitments in Faith No More took over?

[Seshmeister]

Fuck gelling in the elephant arse.

1st gig second song motherfucker! :)

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[Jagermeister]

Bob Daisley, who played bass on the first two solo albums by Ozzy Osbourne, says in a new interview with his web site that he has not been contacted about the 30th anniversary editions of those records being released later this year. The tracks played by Daisley and drummer Lee Kerslake on both albums — 1980's "Blizzard Of Ozz" and 1981's "Diary Of A Madman" — were replaced on a previous reissue after Daisley and Kerslake sued Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne over royalties.

Daisley told the web site, "Neither Lee nor I have been contacted, considered or consulted in the decision to re-release the original recordings. I haven't a clue as to what the 'bonus material' might be. As for royalties, we have not been approached for a reconciliation and have been offered and promised nothing."

Ozzy told The Pulse of Radio he was against the idea of replacing the original tracks when he found out about it. "Believe me, it wasn't my doing," he said. "I mean, I didn't know that was being done, 'cause Sharon was fighting all the legal things that were going down at the time. I said, 'What did you do that for?' And she said, 'The only way I could stop everything was if it went to that level.' And I said, 'You know what, whatever the circumstances were, I want the original thing back.' I mean, I wouldn't have done that."

The replacement tracks were played by current METALLICA bassist Robert Trujillo and FAITH NO MORE drummer Mike Bordin.

Daisley says that he and Kerslake were fired because of disagreements with Sharon over a number of things, including refusing to do two shows in one day out of worry that Ozzy would blow out his voice.

Ozzy's latest solo album, "Scream" came out at the end of last month.

In other news, the Associated Press has posted the second part of its recent interview with Ozzy. The BLACK SABBATH frontman talks about "Scream", writing songs and how he keeps it real. Watch the clip below.

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[Seshmeister]

Ozzy told The Pulse of Radio he was against the idea of replacing the original tracks when he found out about it. "Believe me, it wasn't my doing," he said. "I mean, I didn't know that was being done, 'cause Sharon was fighting all the legal things that were going down at the time. I said, 'What did you do that for?' And she said, 'The only way I could stop everything was if it went to that level.' And I said, 'You know what, whatever the circumstances were, I want the original thing back.' I mean, I wouldn't have done that."


If that's true Ozzy is a fucking useless fucking idiot.

If that isn't true Ozzy is a fucking useless fucking idiot.

Firstly it took 8 years for him to do something about it?

Secondly is he now agreeing that his wife is a lying cunt?


Osbourne’s wife and manager, Sharon, explained the re-recordings in a press conference: “Because of Daisley and Kerslake’s abusive and unjust behaviour, Ozzy wanted to remove them from these recordings. We turned a negative into a positive by adding a fresh sound to the original albums.”

[Jagermeister]

If that's true Ozzy is a fucking useless fucking idiot.

If that isn't true Ozzy is a fucking useless fucking idiot.

Firstly it took 8 years for him to do something about it?

Secondly is he now agreeing that his wife is a lying cunt?

As an artist I am sure Ozzy would not have wanted that shit fucked with. It just makes no sense to fuck with classic recordings at all.

[Seshmeister]

An 'artist' is stretching it a bit.

Piss artist maybe.

The whole thing is an insult to the intelligence of the fans, they seem to think we're all retarded and Sharon is so clever manipulating things.

[Dave's Bitch]

That is a heavy set list, I would have liked to have seen hellraiser in there though. I think they should switch Bark and let me hear you scream, That would be such a cool opening. Surprisingly ozzy doesnt sound too bad in that clip up top, he looks like he is having fun anyway. although i couldnt help but smile at him wandering around for a sec then shooting back to his mic stand. I not too crazy about the band though, generic heavily tattooed,crazy lobg hair band. All in all though pretty decent sound

doesnt he look tired though....

[binnie]

I'm am still very surprised at how good 'Scream' is....

[atomicpunk5151]

Here's what Pollstar has for Ozzfest;

Sat 08/14/10 Devore, CA San Manuel Amphitheater
Tue 08/17/10 Tinley Park, IL First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre
Thu 08/19/10 Burgettstown, PA First Niagara Pavilion
Sat 08/21/10 Hartford, CT Comcast Theatre
Sun 08/22/10 Camden, NJ Susquehanna Bank Center
Tue 08/24/10 Mansfield, MA Comcast Center
Sat 09/18/10 London, United Kingdom The O2 - London

They are also adding some Ozzy solo shows here and there.

They are now scheduled for STURGIS, SD during the Rally. 8/12/10 I think. They should get close to 15,000 for that show.

They also have dates up for a huge European solo tour(Sept) as well as Japan(Oct). http://www.ozzy.com/us/tour

[Anonymous]

An 'artist' is stretching it a bit.

Piss artist maybe.

The whole thing is an insult to the intelligence of the fans, they seem to think we're all retarded and Sharon is so clever manipulating things.

Yeah, as Van Halen fans, our intelligence cannot be disputed & we're surely not used to manipulations & shit.

Cheers! :bottle:

[hankster]

Well, my guess is that this reincarnation of Ozzy's band will flounder and fall apart like all the others, goodnight frontman, it's over!

[binnie]

Here's some more footage from that gig.

BATM

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[binnie]

Shot In The Dark

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Crazy Train

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Scream


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[binnie]

Guitar wank during Suicide Solution

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Drum wank


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Bit of Rat Salad, then Iron Man

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[Jagermeister]

You know I would still like to see this show.

I saw Ozzy when Brad Gillis was playing for him after Randy died. At the time I felt slighted. Now I guess I was just licky to see him when he was younger.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Looked like Ozzy has the lyrics on a monitor at his feet during "Shot in the Dark"....

[Seshmeister]

You know I would still like to see this show.

I saw Ozzy when Brad Gillis was playing for him after Randy died. At the time I felt slighted. Now I guess I was just licky to see him when he was younger.

I liked his playing, the third best Ozzy ever had.

I wouldn't lick him though, I think he would be too salty.

[Seshmeister]

Looked like Ozzy has the lyrics on a monitor at his feet during "Shot in the Dark"....

That's how you can tell when he isn't miming... :)

[binnie]

I liked his playing, the third best Ozzy ever had.

I wouldn't lick him though, I think he would be too salty.

I'm guessing that you rate Randy and Jake 1 and 2 respectively, so you rate Brad over Zakk and Joe Holmes?

[bueno bob]

Zakk Wylde ceased being an interesting guitarist to me after No More Tears. As far as Joe Holmes was concerned, well, all I ever really heard out of him was that one song on the Beavis & Butthead soundtrack (I guess?) called "Walk On Water", and to say that song was amateurish dreck would be putting it mildly.

I still think Jake E. Lee and Randy Rhoads were Ozzy's best solo guitarists. Brad Gillis doesn't have enough heavy on "Speak of the Devil" for me to consider it doing Tony Iommi any justice, but he was a solid player and there's a few instances over that album where I get excited.

[Little Texan]

If Ozzy is going to start adding Ultimate Sin tracks to his setlist, he should add Lightning Strikes while he's at it. I don't know why Ozzy hates that album so much, as I think it's one of his best...very underrated. It's the Rodney Dangerfield of Ozzy albums.

Shot In The Dark is the weakest track on the whole album, IMO.

[Jagermeister]

I liked his playing, the third best Ozzy ever had.

I wouldn't lick him though, I think he would be too salty.

I'm obviously multitasking today!

Oh hell who am I kidding I just fucked up. :(

Brad is a great guitar player. He new his place was to fill in and was happy to do so untill Gayranger took off.

[lesfunk]

I have to be honest with myself. I just don't care about Ozzy anymore at all

[Jagermeister]

I have to be honest with myself. I just don't care about Ozzy anymore at all


Yeah. I'm trying to care but I'm having a tough time. How many times can you hear the same songs with new guitar players or new songs with new guitar players playing over someone elses guitar playing....playing music written by someone else.......blah

[binnie]

Check 'Scream' out, it's well worth a try.

Light years ahead of 'Black Rain'...........

[Jagermeister]

Check 'Scream' out, it's well worth a try.

Light years ahead of 'Black Rain'...........

I will. It's on my list of think to buy.

[ace diamond]

"KILLER OF GIANTS"
SHIT HE HASN'T PLAYED THAT SINCE 1986!
and "SHOT IN THE DARK" IS BACK!!!
I AM GOING TO THE FIRST OZZFEST SHOW HERE IN THE STATES ON AUGUST 14TH!

[ace diamond]

if ozzy is going to start adding ultimate sin tracks to his setlist, he should add lightning strikes while he's at it. I don't know why ozzy hates that album so much, as i think it's one of his best...very underrated. It's the rodney dangerfield of ozzy albums.

Shot in the dark is the weakest track on the whole album, imo.

ozz should play the title track "the ultimate sin".
It is one of the most underrated and heaviest riffs on any of ozzy's records!
I love that song.
"never know why" and "secret loser" are pretty cool too.

[atomicpunk5151]

Still no video or audio of Killer of Giants from Italy. You would think in a crowd that big someone would have got some footage.

Next show is on Friday in FINLAND. Wonder what the set will be? Seems they have also sound checked No More Tears so that could come back. They also played Mama I'm coming home at one of the other UK shows.

++++

One a side note I have probably ran through Ultimate Sin 2 or 3 times in the last couple of days. Still no interest to go back through the new one "Scream".

[chefcraig]

Still no video or audio of Killer of Giants from Italy. You would think in a crowd that big someone would have got some footage.


Some footage appeared late this afternoon. Remember, it takes a few hours for Youtube to process new information. In fact by now there are several clips available from the Italy show. Click HERE (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ozzy+Osbourne+live%40Piazzola +sul+Brenta+&aq=f).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtoHnYu5YY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVaBlUD6FBU

[Diamondjimi]

Here's some more footage from that gig.

BATM

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That drummer is a joke. He sure as fuck ain't no Tommy Aldridge.
Shit, Ozzy should've hired this guy if he was looking for a "sideshow" on the drums... (See 2:50)
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[hankster]

My god, this Gus G guy is a jerk, sounds like he stole his whole sound from Zakk!! I can't believe that. I've got to say, with all the talent he has had playing for him in the past, I think he blew it with this cookie cutter faggot

[atomicpunk5151]

Yeah I just found the Killer of Giants footage as well on GUS G's official myspace page


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtoHnYu5YY

Seems Gus is a big fan of the song. Gus - "we did KILLER OF GIANTS for the 1st time that night! one of my all time favorites!"

[lesfunk]

My god, this Gus G guy is a jerk, sounds like he stole his whole sound from Zakk!! I can't believe that. I've got to say, with all the talent he has had playing for him in the past, I think he blew it with this cookie cutter faggot

In my opinion, the Osbournes have never been great judges of talent. Remember, they fired Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley for Tommy Aldridge and Rudy Sarzo.

They seem to be more interested in hiring players they can get away with not paying

[Diamondjimi]

That drummer is a joke. He sure as fuck ain't no Tommy Aldridge.
Shit, Ozzy should've hired this guy if he was looking for a "sideshow" on the drums... (See 2:50)
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Hmm, I fucked that one up nicely... :biggrin:

[Diamondjimi]

My god, this Gus G guy is a jerk, sounds like he stole his whole sound from Zakk!!

Almost!
If he had Zakk's annoying cheesy chorus pedal on all night he would be a cuntplete douche,imo...

[chefcraig]

In my opinion, the Osbournes have never been great judges of talent...

Which pretty much explains how Sharon wound up sitting next to David Hasselhoff and then Howie Mandel on that dreadful "America's Got Talent" tv show.

[Dan]

Hmm, I fucked that one up nicely... :biggrin:

Damn It Jim.:D

[atomicpunk5151]

Well maybe he can get Jake back......

Here is one for Sesh...

Killer of Giants 1986 with Jake.....E........LEE......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYpVbcUBWSM

[Seshmeister]

Some footage appeared late this afternoon. Remember, it takes a few hours for Youtube to process new information. In fact by now there are several clips available from the Italy show. Click HERE (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ozzy+Osbourne+live%40Piazzola +sul+Brenta+&aq=f).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtoHnYu5YY




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–noun
1. a funeral song or tune, or one expressing mourning in commemoration of the dead.
2. any composition resembling such a song or tune in character, as a poem of lament for the dead or solemn, mournful music: Tennyson's dirge for the Duke of Wellington.
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Where is this gig, an airport lounge?

Ozzy proving that the lyrics to 'You can't kill rock n roll' were not entirely accurate...

[Seshmeister]

In my opinion, the Osbournes have never been great judges of talent. Remember, they fired Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley for Tommy Aldridge and Rudy Sarzo.

They seem to be more interested in hiring players they can get away with not paying

I agree. I used to go with the thinking that Sharon was a great talent spotter but time has shown that she just got lucky a couple of times early on.

They hardly ever had to pay tiny Rudy Sarzo and he's not the smartest.

[Hardrock69]

Now he is claiming he did not know the bass & drum tracks on the first two albums were replaced until it had already been done. Yeah, right.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=142651


OZZY OSBOURNE Says He Was Against Idea Of Replacing Original Tracks On 'Blizzard', 'Diary' LPs - July 7, 2010
Bob Daisley, who played bass on the first two solo albums by Ozzy Osbourne, says in a new interview with his web site that he has not been contacted about the 30th anniversary editions of those records being released later this year. The tracks played by Daisley and drummer Lee Kerslake on both albums — 1980's "Blizzard Of Ozz" and 1981's "Diary Of A Madman" — were replaced on a previous reissue after Daisley and Kerslake sued Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne over royalties.

Daisley told the web site, "Neither Lee nor I have been contacted, considered or consulted in the decision to re-release the original recordings. I haven't a clue as to what the 'bonus material' might be. As for royalties, we have not been approached for a reconciliation and have been offered and promised nothing."

Ozzy told The Pulse of Radio he was against the idea of replacing the original tracks when he found out about it. "Believe me, it wasn't my doing," he said. "I mean, I didn't know that was being done, 'cause Sharon was fighting all the legal things that were going down at the time. I said, 'What did you do that for?' And she said, 'The only way I could stop everything was if it went to that level.' And I said, 'You know what, whatever the circumstances were, I want the original thing back.' I mean, I wouldn't have done that."

The replacement tracks were played by current METALLICA bassist Robert Trujillo and FAITH NO MORE drummer Mike Bordin.

Daisley says that he and Kerslake were fired because of disagreements with Sharon over a number of things, including refusing to do two shows in one day out of worry that Ozzy would blow out his voice.

[binnie]

I really don't think Ozzy makes decisions anymore. In fact, he probably hasn't made them for a long time.

That being said he must have known about this even if he couldn't stop Sharon from doing it.....

[Jagermeister]

I really don't think Ozzy makes decisions anymore. In fact, he probably hasn't made them for a long time.

That being said he must have known about this even if he couldn't stop Sharon from doing it.....

I don't think Ozzy takes a shit on his own.

[chefcraig]

For all intents and purposes, I believe Osbourne gave up making decisions sometime in 1979. He's always astounded when confronted by what has gone on around him, like a drunk waking from a stupor and being told how he'd embarrassed himself at a party the evening before.

"I did WHAAAT with the neighbor's donkey?"

[Seshmeister]

I'm guessing that you rate Randy and Jake 1 and 2 respectively, so you rate Brad over Zakk and Joe Holmes?

I rate CC DeVille over Zakk and Joe Holmes

[sonrisa salvaje]

Man i hate that freakin show. News flash to Sharon: America doesn't have talent.

[Jagermeister]

I rate CC DeVille over Zakk and Joe Holmes

LOL. Why? I like CC also but he really isn't what I would call a good gutar player.

[Seshmeister]

Now he is claiming he did not know the bass & drum tracks on the first two albums were replaced until it had already been done. Yeah, right.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=142651

He was claiming that back at post #26 in this thread.

[atomicpunk5151]

I rate CC DeVille over Zakk and Joe Holmes

C'mon Sesh. You know that ZAKK can play Talk Dirty to Me better then CC. Watch this video for proof......lol!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEeI-26A09A

[binnie]

I rate CC DeVille over Zakk and Joe Holmes

:D

Zakk's problem was that he stuck around too long, and with BLS it was a case of quantity over quality. I don't think anyone would say that the playing on 'No Rest....' and the 'Pride and Glory' records aren't impressive though, would they?

From what I remember, despite the fact that he didn't play on it, Joe Holmes wrote a sizeable chunk of 'Down To Earth' - it might be my memory playing up, mind. I actually saw him with Ozzy in the late '90s and was blown away - no frolics, just blasting out the classics. He's no RR or Jake, but he's hardly a slouch and I would have been very intrigued to hear what he sounded like with Ozzy on record....

[atomicpunk5151]

:D

Zakk's problem was that he stuck around too long, and with BLS it was a case of quantity over quality. I don't think anyone would say that the playing on 'No Rest....' and the 'Pride and Glory' records aren't impressive though, would they?

From what I remember, despite the fact that he didn't play on it, Joe Holmes wrote a sizeable chunk of 'Down To Earth' - it might be my memory playing up, mind. I actually saw him with Ozzy in the late '90s and was blown away - no frolics, just blasting out the classics. He's no RR or Jake, but he's hardly a slouch and I would have been very intrigued to hear what he sounded like with Ozzy on record....

Yeah I agree with Binnie here. Sesh sure does hate ZAKK though....lol...

Zakk playing on "No Rest" & "Pride & Glory" are pretty damn good IMO. I actually think his best work may be on his 1997 solo cd "Book of Shadows". Anyways ZAKK > CC for me.......lol.....

[ELVIS]

Listen girls, Joe Holmes sucks...

And I think Sesh was kidding about CC being better than Jake...

[atomicpunk5151]

As for Holmes work on DTE, he only had 3 songwriting credits. Even those are joint credits with other songwriters who were working on DTE. Pop guys like MArti Frederiksen and Producer Tim Palmer wrote most of the material.

1. "Gets Me Through" Ozzy Osbourne, Tim Palmer 5:04
2. "Facing Hell" Osbourne, Palmer, Scott Humphrey, Geoff Nicholls 4:26
3. "Dreamer" Osbourne, Marti Frederiksen, Mick Jones 4:45
4. "No Easy Way Out" Osbourne, Palmer 5:06
5. "That I Never Had" Osbourne, Frederiksen, Joe Holmes, Robert Trujillo 4:24
6. "You Know...(Part 1)" Osbourne, Palmer 1:06
7. "Junkie" Osbourne, Frederiksen, Holmes, Trujillo 4:28
8. "Running Out of Time" Osbourne, Frederiksen, Jones 5:06
9. "Black Illusion" Osbourne, Palmer, Nicholls, Andy Sturmer 4:12
10. "Alive" Osbourne, Danny Saber 4:54
11. "Can You Hear Them?" Osbourne, Frederiksen, Holmes, Trujillo 4:59

[ELVIS]

Proof of Holmes totally sucking...

Ozzy as well...

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HORRIBLE!!!


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Let's check out some real Ozzy !!

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:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Check out this audio...

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:elvis:

[Jagermeister]

Check out this audio...

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:elvis:

Ozzy's music never was the same after Randy died. That's all there is to it. I liked Ultimate sin though alot. Jake had some great guitar work on that album.

[ELVIS]

This must be the Speak Of The Devil live rehearsal that I read about years ago...

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:elvis:

[ELVIS]

This guy has every song posted on youtube...

The guitar and drums are totally different...


:cool:

[ELVIS]

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:elvis:

[indeedido]

Zakk Wylde ceased being an interesting guitarist to me after No More Tears. As far as Joe Holmes was concerned, well, all I ever really heard out of him was that one song on the Beavis & Butthead soundtrack (I guess?) called "Walk On Water", and to say that song was amateurish dreck would be putting it mildly.

I still think Jake E. Lee and Randy Rhoads were Ozzy's best solo guitarists. Brad Gillis doesn't have enough heavy on "Speak of the Devil" for me to consider it doing Tony Iommi any justice, but he was a solid player and there's a few instances over that album where I get excited.


+1 for Jake E. Lee and RR

[Seshmeister]

:D

Zakk's problem was that he stuck around too long, and with BLS it was a case of quantity over quality. I don't think anyone would say that the playing on 'No Rest....' and the 'Pride and Glory' records aren't impressive though, would they?


I've never heard Pride and Glory is that one of his shitty biker music albums?

Fuck I've just realised that when I was at my first Ozzy gig you hadn't started school... :)

[chefcraig]

I've never heard Pride and Glory is that one of his shitty biker music albums?


Yep, recorded with the rhythm section of...

wait for it...







White Lion.



The less said the better, but put it this way: Their best idea amounted to a jerk-off cover of Sabbath's "The Wizard". Be afraid, very afraid. :umm:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7jxM9gILmc

[Hardrock69]

He was claiming that back at post #26 in this thread.

Oops, my bad.

[binnie]

'Pride & Glory' was his Southern Rock record, released in 1994. They played Donnington that year.

It's a good record, but suffers from Zakk's vocals - always a limitation.

[Seshmeister]

One of his limitations, lets not forget his song writing.

[binnie]

There's some good stuff on 'Pride & Glory', 'Book Of Shadows' (acoustic) and the first BLS record 'Sonic Boom'.

But, yes, he does suffer from 'guitar-player-goes-solo-syndrome' (i.e. piss poor songs). It's largely because - as I said above - he puts out too many records. BLS were prolific, and the quality suffered...

[atomicpunk5151]

There's some good stuff on 'Pride & Glory', 'Book Of Shadows' (acoustic) and the first BLS record 'Sonic Boom'.

But, yes, he does suffer from 'guitar-player-goes-solo-syndrome' (i.e. piss poor songs). It's largely because - as I said above - he puts out too many records. BLS were prolific, and the quality suffered...

It's Sonic BREW. Zakk likes to DRINK!

I like P&G, Book of Shadows and Sonic Brew as well. Much better then his later efforts.

Also don't hate to much on Lomenzo. He was pretty good with DLR and Megadeth.

[binnie]

Good point - I used to drink a lot too, thus the memory loss!

[atomicpunk5151]

Looks like Oz is keeping "Killer of giants" in the setlist for now.

Here is a video from Finland 7/9/10.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YavOJfZOsdE

[ELVIS]

I wish Ozzy would learn the words...

He would sound much better if he didn't have to concentrate on reading...

[binnie]

He hasn't sung it for donkey's years - I'm sure he'll be up and running in a few weeks....

[atomicpunk5151]

I wish Ozzy would learn the words...
He would sound much better if he didn't have to concentrate on reading...

I would bet that Ozzy hasn't even heard Killer of Giants in 20 years. Let alone try and sing it. Also he didn't write thel yrics in the first place as well....

Even though the perforamnce isn't quite there, I still give the old guy props for pulling an old one (and a Jake song at that) out for the old school fans.