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Kristy
08-01-2010, 05:51 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110152/wal-mart-radio-tags-to-track-clothing

Kristy
08-01-2010, 06:05 PM
"While the tags can be removed from clothing and packages, they can't be turned off, and they are trackable. Some privacy advocates hypothesize that unscrupulous marketers or criminals will be able to drive by consumers' homes and scan their garbage to discover what they have recently bought."

Isn't a "unscrupulous marketer" already a criminal? What's also scary about this is the advent of the 'Enhanced Driver's License' (or EDL) http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/6065-driving-your-liberties-away-biometrics-and-enhanced-drivers-licenses-.html which are a another bullshit sell proved by the bigger bullshitting Department of Homeland Security to be used in lieu of a passport (especially between Canada and the U.S.) If you get your driver's license renewed as a EDL Wal-Mart can scan that, too from the time when you walk into the door and set prices almost instantaneously by your age, product purchased and estimated income and the number of times you have shopped there knowing that a EDL RFID won't be tossed. So I may be getting a little paranoid here but this seems to be a dress rehearsal for something bigger.

FORD
08-01-2010, 08:48 PM
I don't shop at WalMart, but if other stores follow this lead, then the RFID tags will go through the shredder like anything else I have with personal info on it does, before it gets thrown away/recycled.

As for Wally World being able to scan your enhanced drivers license, there are ways to prevent that.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8cdd/

FORD
08-01-2010, 08:52 PM
And for those of you with passports.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/a7a2/

GAR
08-01-2010, 09:49 PM
Things were cool here for a few months till they let FORD out of the Faraday Cage...

Nickdfresh
08-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Things were cool here for a few months till they let FORD out of the Faraday Cage...

Don't sell yourself short! You gayed things up all along...

LoungeMachine
08-01-2010, 09:51 PM
Things were cool here for a few months till they let FORD out of the Faraday Cage...

STFU

Give me a reason to dump all of your FL posts, please.......

:gulp:

sadaist
08-01-2010, 10:20 PM
And for those of you with passports.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/a7a2/



Passports are scannable? I haven't had one in over 25 years. I have been thinking of getting one soon though. Been thinking a lot of starting to travel soon, and I'd just assume have it out of the way now. They last 10 years still?

GAR
08-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Passports are scannable?

yeah but since RFID's are aluminum circuits that have no power supply, they rely on nearby oscillating radio frequencies to cause them to transmit data

- you'd have to be really close by to induce and pick off a signal

Nitro Express
08-02-2010, 12:19 AM
I haven't set foot in a Wal-Mart in 12 years.

Nitro Express
08-02-2010, 12:22 AM
Things were cool here for a few months till they let FORD out of the Faraday Cage...

I actually worked in one of those. All the walls, floor, and ceiling were covered in copper plate and grounded with #2 wire.

Nitro Express
08-02-2010, 12:24 AM
I don't shop at WalMart, but if other stores follow this lead, then the RFID tags will go through the shredder like anything else I have with personal info on it does, before it gets thrown away/recycled.

As for Wally World being able to scan your enhanced drivers license, there are ways to prevent that.....

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8cdd/

I shred it and then donate it to the local pet store and their puppies pee and shit all over it. What's better security than that?

GAR
08-02-2010, 12:54 AM
I actually worked in one of those. All the walls, floor, and ceiling were covered in copper plate and grounded with #2 wire.

Wow really? What the hell did you do, work as a cashier in a casino or something?

FORD
08-02-2010, 12:34 PM
Passports are scannable? I haven't had one in over 25 years. I have been thinking of getting one soon though. Been thinking a lot of starting to travel soon, and I'd just assume have it out of the way now. They last 10 years still?

All new passports now are RFID equipped. "Security" was the excuse given for the change, of course. The enhanced drivers licenses now available in many states will get you back and forth across either the northern or southern borders of this country without a passport. I actually thought about getting one last time I renewed my license, since I'm in a "border state", but then Little Stevie Wonderbush got re-elected up there, and I'm not in a big hurry to go to Canada as long as neocons are in charge. It used to be the place where I could go to escape right wing bullshit. :(

GAR
08-02-2010, 01:05 PM
It used to be the place where I could go to escape right wing bullshit. :(

RFID tags do NOT transmit unless you vibrate them with the correct frequency, within a short distance!

What's so NEOCON about the automation of data? Tell me! I want to know if you've ever had a job CLOSE to doing inventory, managing a database or had to reiterate the same data manually, over and over all fucking day long.

RFID is error-free, it means when scanned at the airport I'm not gonna get confused with a terrorist or some other nutjob one letter away from the same name, or getting my last name input as some nut jobs' first name or any other which-way wrong data could get you flagged off your flight: wrong address, wrong ID number, wrong anything.

I love RFID. Why don't you stick with attacking the actual, true NEOCON stroke job of The SoCalled Patriot Act, and DHS implementation instead of an automated mechanism designed to speed things along?

It's not like the Treasury is implementing some unusual reason for RFID such as, tagging the US money supply so you you'll get pulled off your flight to a Swiss banking institute with all that Democratic campaign cash.. especially if you privately-chartered a flight to dodge customs!

But I bet Tax-dodge Tim Geithner has that planned in the works, too. Sure, just pull out the security strip, and stick a super-thin RFID thread in its' place huh..

Cmnon FROD get real

FORD
08-02-2010, 02:14 PM
No you dumpster diving, library squatting, formerly Jizzy blowing idiot.....

THIS is what I meant by Canada going neocon:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/files/images/4627-harper_bush_4.jpg

The guy on the left of that picture wants to do to his country, what the Chimp on the right of that photo did to this one.

As far as the "vibrating frequency" of the RFID tags, did you determine that by sticking different sized vibrators up your ass, until you found one that made it possible to read your wallet?

GAR
08-02-2010, 02:32 PM
Did my post resonate something deep within you long denied, called "the truth"?

GAR
08-02-2010, 02:33 PM
As far as I know, Walmart prices are going up on Federal 500ct. .22LR ammo.. FORD and his Tinfoil Hats Brigade (THB-Cons) better stock up.

hambon4lif
08-02-2010, 11:55 PM
Knowing Wal-Marts ethics, or lack thereof, I'm willing to bet that this has more to do with minimalizing their crew, and less to do with being able to track someones every move and whereabouts by their undies.
It's their way of deeming their logistics crew irrelevant and useless....and sending them into the unemployment line.
"Save Money, Live Better" is NOT their philosophy to YOU.....it's the creed which they live by. 4 of the Top 10 wealthiest people list are the Waltons, so I don't really have to defend that at all.

This is hardly news....do you really think what sets their scanners off at the entrance is the fuckin' UPC bar code??!?? Let's get real!

Looking at this from strictly a retailers standpoint, and knowing Wal-Marts notorious track record of unethical treatment of their employees, I know their motives behind this. It's 'do more with less'.....people!

George Orwell has not landed, folks! But Sammy Walton would be spinning in his grave if he got a hint of what his unscrupulous family have done to his business.

twonabomber
08-03-2010, 10:37 AM
All new passports now are RFID equipped.

i've heard that if you wrap the passport in a towel and smack it with a hammer that the RFID will break and be rendered useless. the passport itself is still a valid document.

i'm not sure if we make the passport RFID but i'm pretty sure the Wal-Mart ones are ours. we make those damn hard to remove CD and DVD anti-theft labels too.

FORD
08-03-2010, 11:00 AM
Supposedly, microwaving it will kill the RFID too. But it might also burn the passport. Or blow up the microwave.

chefcraig
08-03-2010, 11:02 AM
i've heard that if you wrap the passport in a towel and smack it with a hammer that the RFID will break and be rendered useless. the passport itself is still a valid document.


I hazily remember some amateur magician pulling the same stunt with a friend's wristwatch at a party several years ago. The watch was supposed to come out of the towel none the worse for wear, but apparently the would-be David Copperfield hadn't practiced the trick well enough, and the timepiece was destroyed. Magically, so was the magician a few moments later after he handed my truly angry friend his shattered watch back.

LoungeMachine
08-03-2010, 11:04 AM
i've heard that if you wrap the passport in a towel and smack it with a hammer that the RFID will break and be rendered useless. .

If the week long banning doesn't do the trick, pehaps we could try that with Gar, too

:gulp:

Diamondjimi
08-03-2010, 01:10 PM
If the week long banning doesn't do the trick, pehaps we could try that with Gar, too

:gulp:

Only a week? Pfft....

Nitro Express
08-03-2010, 06:06 PM
Wow really? What the hell did you do, work as a cashier in a casino or something?

I worked for the Federal Bureau of Investigation where they have all the computer back up data for their headquarters in Washington DC. Very high security there and you should see the gates at the guard house. A tank couldn't get through those! What's funny is the place is across the street from a K-Mart. At least when I worked there.

Nitro Express
08-03-2010, 06:13 PM
I read a few years back that Wal-Mart had invested in some technology that would allow all purchases to be scanned in the cart without having to remove them and scan them separately. The thing is technology can be used for good or bad. As corrupt as institutions are now, and greed being through the roof, it's usually the bad they seem to seek. I really don't trust anyone now. Everything from banking, healthcare, education is a fucking scam.

Nickdfresh
08-03-2010, 09:58 PM
http://www.clown-ministry.com/images/the-secret-life-of-walter-mitty-danny-kaye-movie.jpg

WACF
08-04-2010, 04:19 PM
....wtf....

WACF
08-04-2010, 04:21 PM
All new passports now are RFID equipped. "Security" was the excuse given for the change, of course. The enhanced drivers licenses now available in many states will get you back and forth across either the northern or southern borders of this country without a passport. I actually thought about getting one last time I renewed my license, since I'm in a "border state", but then Little Stevie Wonderbush got re-elected up there, and I'm not in a big hurry to go to Canada as long as neocons are in charge. It used to be the place where I could go to escape right wing bullshit. :(

No worries...

Our Neo-Cons are less dangerous than your Democrats.

Good to see you back BTW.