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PETE'S BROTHER
08-02-2010, 04:42 PM
All the criminal suspect needs to say is he or she is remaining silent, wrote Justice Anthony Kennedy. "Had he made either of these simple, unambiguous statements, he would have invoked his 'right to cut off questioning.' Here he did neither, so he did not invoke his right to remain silent."
But Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the majority's decision "turns Miranda upside down."
"Criminal suspects must now unambiguously invoke their right to remain silent — which counter intuitively requires them to speak," she said. "At the same time, suspects will be legally presumed to have waived their rights even if they have given no clear expression of their intent to do so."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_miranda

vh rides again
08-02-2010, 07:04 PM
All the criminal suspect needs to say is he or she is remaining silent, wrote Justice Anthony Kennedy. "Had he made either of these simple, unambiguous statements, he would have invoked his 'right to cut off questioning.' Here he did neither, so he did not invoke his right to remain silent."
But Justice Sonia Sotomayor said the majority's decision "turns Miranda upside down."
"Criminal suspects must now unambiguously invoke their right to remain silent — which counter intuitively requires them to speak," she said. "At the same time, suspects will be legally presumed to have waived their rights even if they have given no clear expression of their intent to do so."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_miranda miranda is a joke anyways, unless you have witnesses that will say you didnt get miranda.

fuck watch cops on saturday they break miranda codes all over the place. they read them their rights and continue to badger the suspect telling him to just come clean and we will go easy on ya, then he admits to the crime and they throw the book at him. its supposed to be you have the right to remain silent yadda yadda yadda, but they add in there just rat yourself out and we wont take ya to jail.

fuckin pigs.
they should be bitching about illegal search and seizure laws , heres how the cops beat the shit out of that law, fuckin nazis.
you get pulled over and cops ask permission to search your car, you say fuck no, cops have suspicion to search and judges allow it. its bullshit. the only way you will win an illegal search and seizure suit is if you have a shitload of witnesses that have no criminal record to testify, it would also help if you had your lawyer in the car with you.

Nitro Express
08-03-2010, 09:49 PM
Courts have become at joke anyways. Nobody is following the law. So we will just duke it out the old fashioned way and kill each other. Dueling pistols might come back into fashion.

Nickdfresh
08-03-2010, 09:52 PM
miranda is a joke anyways, unless you have witnesses that will say you didnt get miranda.

fuck watch cops on saturday they break miranda codes all over the place. they read them their rights and continue to badger the suspect telling him to just come clean and we will go easy on ya, then he admits to the crime and they throw the book at him. its supposed to be you have the right to remain silent yadda yadda yadda, but they add in there just rat yourself out and we wont take ya to jail.

fuckin pigs.
they should be bitching about illegal search and seizure laws , heres how the cops beat the shit out of that law, fuckin nazis.
you get pulled over and cops ask permission to search your car, you say fuck no, cops have suspicion to search and judges allow it. its bullshit. the only way you will win an illegal search and seizure suit is if you have a shitload of witnesses that have no criminal record to testify, it would also help if you had your lawyer in the car with you.

"Fucking pigs?" I mean, really? I agree that there are some bad-apple dicklicks in uniform, but I think you have to have respect for cops.