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FORD
08-27-2010, 01:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m05VSyHoQ4&

jhale667
08-27-2010, 01:33 PM
Alveda King should be ashamed of herself for supporting this fool.

jhale667
08-27-2010, 01:36 PM
Alveda King’s attempted claiming of the MLK legacy is sad

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/08/26/alveda-kings-attempted-claiming-of-the-mlk-legacy-is-sad/

Many black leaders oppose the comparisons between the African-American civil rights movement and the gay rights movement. But few are as vehemently opposed to the comparison as Martin Luther King Jr’s niece, Alveda King.

However, as her recent behavior demonstrates, it could be that Alveda King doesn’t like the so-called appropriation of the black civil rights movement because it hones in on her action.

Witness her comments in defense of her joining Glenn Beck’s 8-28 rally which will be held 47 years to the date of the 1963 March on Washington which featured Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s “I Have A Dream” speech:

“It is absolutely ludicrous that abortion supporters would accuse a blood relative of Dr. King of hijacking the King legacy. Uncle Martin and my father, Rev. A. D. King were blood brothers. How can I hijack something that belongs to me? I am an heir to the King Family legacy.”

Alveda King’s statements in this press release (which is titled Pro-Abortion Blacks Attack Heir to King Legacy) isn’t the first time she claimed that “blood” entitles her to be an “heir to the King legacy.”

Last month, during an anti-gay marriage rally, she said pretty much the same thing during a verbal attack on her late aunt, Coretta Scott King. Her exact words then were:

She (Coretta) was married to him (Martin Luther King, Jr.). I’ve got his DNA. She doesn’t.

Alveda King’s constant yammering that the “King blood flows through her veins” reminds me of Saturday Night Live comedian Tracy Morgan’s hilarious send-up of Star Jones on The View in which he would constantly pepper the conversations in various skits with assurances that his character was a lawyer in an effort to lampoon questions of Jones’s relevancy.

King would be equally funny except for the fact she has made a career out of being MLK’s niece. What she has to say is not important. No one cares. It’s the symbol of MLK that’s more important. This is something she knows and is not ashamed of.

Why care when there is so much spotlight to be grabbed?

And in this particular case, i.e. Beck’s rally, Alveda King is soiling the King name and legacy by aligning it with someone who, if he had been around during King’s time, would be one of the first to denigrate him with as much ease as he is now denigrating what King stood for.

I don’t think the King legacy has anything to do with blackboards, conspiracy theories, and charlatans who can cry crocodile tears at the drop of a hat.

And Alveda’s chirpings about her sharing the “King blood” is like me using an alleged familial relationship to a rock star to demand a recording contract even though I can’t carry a tune.

MLK’s legacy should never be used like a commodity nor should it be determined by blood relationships. MLK’s legacy is about truth, integrity, and most of all, love.

So while the King blood does flow through Alveda’s veins, she seems to be sorely lacking on the other points. Especially integrity.

hambon4lif
08-27-2010, 01:37 PM
I have a bad feeling about this so-called "rally" of Beck and Palins.

Sharpton, the New Black Panthers, and other radical groups have confirmed that they are going to crash this party. It's not going to end well.

On the anniversary of Martin Luther Kings speech of all days, we'll find out that the human race hasn't really progressed at all. In alot of ways, it's only gone backwards.

If nothing else, America will get an introduction to the CMRT and what they're all about....

jhale667
08-27-2010, 01:47 PM
I have a bad feeling about this so-called "rally" of Beck and Palins.

Sharpton, the New Black Panthers, and other radical groups have confirmed that they are going to crash this party. It's not going to end well.

On the anniversary of Martin Luther Kings speech of all days, we'll find out that the human race hasn't really progressed at all. In alot of ways, it's only gone backwards.

If nothing else, America will get an introduction to the CMRT and what they're all about....

Sharpton's had practically zero credibility in my eyes since the Twana Brawley incident, but for once he said something I agree with the other day regarding the Palin/Dr. Laura fiasco...

"What's Dr. Laura supposed to "re-load" exactly, Sarah - the 'N' word?"

I mean, seriously. :rolleyes: Stupid bitch.

Beck's "rally" being held on the steps of the Lincoln memorial on the anniversary of Dr. King's speech is a million times more distasteful than the location of a mosque in NYC, that's for sure. :mad:

Va Beach VH Fan
08-27-2010, 02:13 PM
"My question is, when did America lose that honor?" Sekoff asked. "Did we lose that honor when we invaded Iraq for nonexistent WMD? Did we lose the honor when we opened Guantanamo, when we allowed extraordinary rendition? Did we lose the honor when we said waterboarding wasn't torture? Or maybe did we lose our honor when Glenn Beck said the President of the United States had a deep-seated hatred for white people?

"Because if it was those things," Sekoff added, "he's a little late to the game."


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ELVIS
08-27-2010, 02:31 PM
Hahahaha!!!

I hope Ted Nugent shows up...:biggrin:

hambon4lif
08-27-2010, 02:46 PM
Hahahaha!!!

I hope Ted Nugent shows up...:biggrin:He'll probably shit in his pants to get out of that, too.

What good is a chickenhawk once hell actually starts to break loose?

bueno bob
08-27-2010, 04:23 PM
Hahahaha!!!

I hope Ted Nugent shows up...:biggrin:

He'd fit right in with the rest of the fake patriots.

GAR
08-27-2010, 04:37 PM
LOLZ the same Secret Service protecting the President will be watching Glen Becks' ass tomorrow.. there would have to be a REALLY amazing lack of security for someone like an ACORN or an SEIU'er to make way thru the crowd and assasinate him.

I'm not postulating it to be an impossible chore, but even a lightning strike is supposed to be 99% percent against the odds even though people get struck all the time.

However, one can be 100 percent sure any threat on Beck won't come from a Teapartier or a Republicunt.

(BTW Teapartiers are 66% percent AND rising, pissed-off Democrats if you believe the AP polls)

hambon4lif
08-27-2010, 05:44 PM
Once people figure out that this rally isn't about "restoring honor", but rather a shameless promotion of an upcoming book.....he'll need that kind of security.
Once people figure out that he didn't randomly pick this particular date (as he claims) to stage this rally.....he'll need that kind of security.
Once people figure out that this lying sack of shit is out in the open amongst the people, and not safely protected inside of the walls of Rupert Murdochs Death Star........he'll need that kind of security.

Oh, and did I already mention that the New Black Panthers, Sharpton, and assorted hate-groups/fringe from all over will be dropping by to say hello?........he'll need that kind of security.

This is not going to be some 'peace and love' festival where everyone holds hands and sings silly songs. This is going to be a gathering of the radicals......a gathering of the ignorant......a gathering of the radically ignorant.
I just have that gut feeling that something ugly is going to happen tomorrow, I hope that it doesn't, but at the same time, if it does, maybe it will open some eyes and serve as a prime example as to how fucking stupid the whole thing really is.

Before I forget to mention it.......he'll need that kind of security.

Carloscda
08-27-2010, 06:40 PM
Interesting..

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GAR
08-27-2010, 06:47 PM
I ALWAYS fuck up on the embed=code! Hell..

Glen Beck raises alot of historical issues that question the integrity of the government's experience and direction. I think that's patriotic, if he wants to flip his book there who cares?

He isn't charging admission is he?

Jesus Christ
08-27-2010, 06:53 PM
Speaking for Dad, the Holy Spirit, and Myself, I can assure thee all that We will NOT be attending Glenn's pathetic rally tomorrow. Though We may watch it on C Span just for a laugh :jesuslol:

knuckleboner
08-27-2010, 07:14 PM
I ALWAYS fuck up on the embed=code! Hell..

Glen Beck raises alot of historical issues that question the integrity of the government's experience and direction. I think that's patriotic, if he wants to flip his book there who cares?

He isn't charging admission is he?

the only thing patriotic about glenn beck is that he's a capitalist out to make as much money as he can. and his avid fools...er...followers provide all the money he needs through listening to his shows and buying his books.

hambon4lif
08-27-2010, 07:39 PM
.....and don't be fooled by Ped Nugent either.

The only reason he's showing up is to see if he can score with Piper Palin.

Jesus Christ
08-27-2010, 08:15 PM
.....and don't be fooled by Ped Nugent either.

The only reason he's showing up is to see if he can score with Piper Palin.

Which reminds Me..... where can you buy millstones on earth these days? When I come back, there's going to be a lot of one way boat rides for pedophiles. I'll need some rope too. (Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.)

GAR
08-27-2010, 10:54 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2921oox.jpg

Nitro Express
08-28-2010, 04:15 AM
My question is where are the real leaders? The Republicans fucked us and the Democrats ran with the Republican ball and fucked us even more. Both parties are bought and paid for by big oil, big pharma, military contractors, big banking, the insurance industry. Something needs to break this cycle of corruption and you have the tea party emerge but all the wackos from Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck hijack it for their self promotional purposes. The whole country is a nutty shit house.

BigBadBrian
08-28-2010, 10:41 AM
Oh the sheer hate from the Left!!! :lmao:

You guys are really fearful about the upcoming midterms, aren't you?

Democrats/liberals/progressives/Marxists/Socialists (they're all the same, afterall) never could put up a good debate. They are only good at whining and complaining.

You guys are obviously desperate! Even you, kb

:biggrin:

bueno bob
08-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Oh the sheer hate from the Left!!! :lmao:

I think you're confusing disgust for hate.


You guys are really fearful about the upcoming midterms, aren't you?

Not especially. They're midterms. I honestly couldn't care much less than I already do. Yeah, conservatives will make a few gains, but nowhere near the "Taking the country back!" gains you're so excited about.


Democrats/liberals/progressives/Marxists/Socialists (they're all the same, afterall)

Wrong, but you already knew that.


never could put up a good debate.

That's funny, considering how often you get your ass served to you on a silver platter here. Were I you, I'd have already logged off and moved out of state in complete and utter shame, but then again that's me, and I have two advantages on you - I can think and I have some shame.


They are only good at whining and complaining.

Are they naughty poopy-faces too?

What, are you in 4th grade or something? Fuck, try and elevate your argument to something remotely adult, oh bitch of mine.

bueno bob
08-28-2010, 01:10 PM
WASHINGTON — From the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck told the tens of thousands of activists he drew from around the nation Saturday that the U.S. has too long "wandered in darkness."

His rally's marquee speaker, Sarah Palin, praised "patriots" in the audience for "knowing never to retreat."

The two champions of the tea party movement spoke from the very spot where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech 47 years ago. Some civil rights leaders who have denounced Beck's choice of a venue staged a rival rally to honor King.

Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee who may make a White House run in 2012, said activists must honor King's legacy by paying tribute to the men and women who protect the United States in uniform.

Beck, pacing back and forth on the marble steps, said he was humbled by the size of the crowd, which stretched along the Washington Mall's long reflecting pool nearly all the way to the Washington Monument.

"Something beyond imagination is happening," he said. "America today begins to turn back to God."

"For too long, this country has wandered in darkness," said Beck, a Fox News host. He said it was now time to "concentrate on the good things in America, the things we have accomplished and the things we can do tomorrow."

Neither Beck nor Palin made overtly political comments.

Palin, greeted by chants of "USA, USA, USA" from many in the crowd, told the gathering, "It is so humbling to get to be here with you today, patriots. You who are motivated and engaged ... and knowing never to retreat."

"We must restore America and restore her honor," said the former Alaska governor, echoing the name of the rally, "Restoring Honor."

Palin told the crowd she wasn't speaking as a politician. "No, something more, something much more. I've been asked to speak as the mother of a soldier and I am proud of that distinction. Say what you want to say about me, but I raised a combat vet and you can't take that away from me." It was a reference to her son, Track, 20, who served a yearlong deployment in Iraq.

Palin honored military members in her speech. She likened the rally participants to the civil rights activists who came to the National Mall to hear King's historic speech. She said the same spirit that helped civil rights activists overcome oppression, discrimination and violence would help this group as well.

"We are worried about what we face. Sometimes, our challenges seem insurmountable," Palin said.

"Look around you. You're not alone," Palin told participants.

The crowd — organizers had a permit for 300,000 — was vast, with people standing shoulder to shoulder across large expanses of the Mall. The National Park Service stopped doing crowd counts in 1997 after the agency was accused of underestimating numbers for the 1995 Million Man March.

Civil rights leaders protested the event and scheduled a 3-mile plus march from a high school to the site of a planned King memorial near the Tidal Basin and not far from Beck's gathering.

Karen Watts, 57, of Mount Vernon, N.Y., was among those attending the King rally and march. "The dream is not forgotten," she said. "I live my life honoring Dr. King to make sure I'm part of that dream, by serving my community."

Of Beck's rally, she said, "They're American citizens. So long as they don't infringe upon my rights ... let them do what they do."

Eleanor Holmes Norton, Washington's delegate to Congress, said she remembers being at King's march on Washington, which she said prompted change and ended segregation in public places. "Glenn Beck's march will change nothing. But you can't blame Glenn Beck for his March-on-Washington envy," she said.

Beck has said he did not intend to choose the King anniversary for his rally but had since decided it was "divine providence."

Beck, in a taped presentation mixed in with his live remarks, invoked King's message and said "the fight for freedom was not easy." He repeatedly injected religion into the event and urged rally participants to rely on faith to help the U.S. recover from an economic recession that has given the country stubbornly high unemployment.

"Faith is in short supply," Beck said. "To restore America, we must restore ourselves."

Organizers said their aim was to honor military personnel and others "who embody our nation's founding principles of integrity, truth and honor."

Many in the crowd watched the proceedings on large television screens. On the edges of the Mall, vendors sold "Don't Tread on Me" flags, popular with tea party activists. Other activists distributed fliers urging voters "dump Obama." The pamphlet included a picture of the president with a Hitler-style mustache.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, leading the civil rights march, said Beck's demonstration was an anti-government rally that advocated states' rights — counter to the message in King's speech, in which the civil right leader appealed to the federal government to ensure equality.

"The structural breakdown of a strong national government, which is what they're calling for, is something that does not serve the interests of the nation and it's something that Dr. King and others fought against," Sharpton told C-SPAN hours before his event.

People began filling up the space between the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument early in the day, many waving American flags. Wasington's subway system was extremely crowded with long lines of people trying to get to the rally. Metro spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said that there was crowding at least a dozen stations.

Ricky Thomas, 43, a SWAT team police officer from Chesapeake Beach, Md., brought his 10-year old son Chase to the Beck rally. "I wanted my son to see democracy in action," Thomas said.

He said he wants government to stay out of people's lives. He acknowledged that he works for government, but said it's "a part of government that helps people when they are in trouble."

Beck has given voice to those angry and frustrated with President Barack Obama and other Democrats this election year, especially members of the tea party movement.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20100827/US.DC.Rally/

bueno bob
08-28-2010, 01:24 PM
So, what have they covered in their "Restoring Honor" bullshit rally? God and patriots. Meaning that, by default, anybody NOT on their side is A) Against God and B) Not a patriot, apparently. Do I have that straight? Seriously, though, where is the "restoring honor" part? Can anybody explain to me how our "honor" was "lost" and how they propose to bring it back - I mean, OUTSIDE of the obvious religious indoctrination Glenn and Sara seem to be proposing, and replacing that guy in office that they're still crying about?

You know, based on the knee-jerk hot headed reactionist proclivities of these zealot-fucks, I'm quickly becoming less concerned about global terrorism and the American economy and more increasingly concerned about the possibility of an upcoming religious civil war where you can't even see the enemy. These are not people who can think straight or exercise common sense when they get all fired up about something, obviously.

How much of a push do you think it would take from one of these empty-headed, money-hungry opportunistic fucks to make it actually HAPPEN on a wide scale basis, especially if the welfare of the country "depended" on it?

It's a serious question to ask, I think.

I'll tell you right now how to restore this country's honor and I don't need to tromple all over the anniversary of Martin Luther King's speech in order to do it, either. What this country needs is a return to common sense and a renewed focus on communicating with each other using decency, respect and consideration regarding our differences in background, politics, and religious belief.

If our grandparents were the greatest generation, we are most certainly becoming the stupidest.

Unchainme
08-28-2010, 01:39 PM
LOL "God Bootcamp"..is katydid running the nutjob ring of the republican party now?

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?14197-Bible-Bootcamp&highlight=bootcamp

FORD
08-28-2010, 01:45 PM
God damn, I can't believe I actually watched that whole pathetic stream of BecKKKish buffoonery.:puking-smiley:

As for Alveda King, she's a piece of work. Blood relative or not, it's clear that she's completely fucking clueless about her uncle's life, what he accomplished, and what he was trying to do when he was murdered by bastards who share the same mentality as Glenn BecKKK.

Unchainme
08-28-2010, 02:01 PM
God damn, I can't believe I actually watched that whole pathetic stream of BecKKKish buffoonery.:puking-smiley:

As for Alveda King, she's a piece of work. Blood relative or not, it's clear that she's completely fucking clueless about her uncle's life, what he accomplished, and what he was trying to do when he was murdered by bastards who share the same mentality as Glenn BecKKK.

FORD..curious about something, I know he's from your state, but what the hell is the cryers hometown like? I read a while back quite a few aren't exactly happy with him.

hambon4lif
08-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Ped "modern day G.I. Joe supermacho rocker badass" Nugent was scheduled to be a guest speaker at todays rally, but was unable to attend due to a previous engagement...
I can't even post what this 'engagement' was with a straight face, so I'm just going to let someone else take the shot.....

Carloscda
08-28-2010, 02:14 PM
They said this clown used MLK Speech & video acting like he's MLK!!

People need to Really wake up about this idiot!!


someone said "My understanding is that monies from this rally will help families of fallen soldiers"

That was a ploy of his to get people there, wait to they find out later what the real deal is!!
Some people are so gullible...smh!!

FORD
08-28-2010, 02:15 PM
FORD..curious about something, I know he's from your state, but what the hell is the cryers hometown like? I read a while back quite a few aren't exactly happy with him.

http://i38.tinypic.com/bhhz6b.jpg

Mount Vernon is a boring little town in Skagit county. Probably most time I ever spent there was as a kid and had to wait around there for a couple hours while an overheated radiator got fixed. Lots of people drive through there, since it's about an hour south of the Canadian border. Maybe even some take a right turn there during the warmer months to drive the North Cascades Highway (it's closed in the winter) but nobody really GOES to Mount Vernon. Unless they're in the florist industry and it's tulip season.

So I guess I understand how a town that boring and that bored would latch on to any claim to fame they could, even if it's because of a piece of shit like BecKKK. But I'm happy that some of the locals there didn't go along with the scam and protested his ass when he came to collect his "key to the city".

ELVIS
08-28-2010, 02:25 PM
(Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.)

I think that verse is speaking of new Christians of any age rather than children...

FORD
08-28-2010, 02:37 PM
I think that verse is speaking of new Christians of any age rather than children...

Since the Lord won't be posting on the Sabbath, I guess I'll have to take this one........



Matthew 18

1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

So while JC was making some allegories there, such as "humble yourself AS a little child", the millstone reference specifically says "these little ones".

FORD
08-28-2010, 02:49 PM
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii241/onehandle_bucket/mlkvsbeck.jpg

BigBadBrian
08-28-2010, 03:44 PM
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FORD
08-28-2010, 04:22 PM
Not sure exactly what that has to do with this thread, but I'll admit I was surprised when Letterman said it. I know he's no Republican. Maybe he's hoping for a primary challenge like I am?

GAR
08-28-2010, 05:24 PM
I'll play Mindreader like you enjoy doing, and go so far as to say that what Brians saying is: Obama is no Glen Beck. and never will be.

knuckleboner
08-28-2010, 06:05 PM
You guys are obviously desperate! Even you, kb

:biggrin:

for calling out glenn beck? dude, anybody who thinks that glenn beck is anything but a money-grubbing attention whore is delusional.

there are plenty of legitimate critics. and plenty of whores. beck’s on the whore side.

GAR
08-28-2010, 06:17 PM
More than that, Beck's popularity is a focus of anti-Obamists in this country who demand a low-tax/low-administrative overhead for the running of the nation and aren't getting fair value!

Va Beach VH Fan
08-28-2010, 06:47 PM
More than that, Beck's popularity is a focus of anti-Obamists in this country who demand a low-tax/low-administrative overhead for the running of the nation and aren't getting fair value!

Which is why those naive Bible thumpers are so ignorant.... They're either too stupid or they have a serious case of selective memory.... And that's BESIDES believing in the invisible man up in the clouds....

The Republican messiah, Ronald Reagan, raised taxes several times, including one of the biggest tax increases ever in '82.... Daddy Bush raised taxes, of course after the "read my lips" fuck-up.....

It was only dingbat George W. that cut taxes, and combined with Wall Street deregulation, caused the near depression....

But you go ahead, keep blaming Obama and restoring that honor.... History shows otherwise....

LoungeMachine
08-28-2010, 06:58 PM
:lmao:

Nailed it.


Don't forget BARACK IS A MUSLIM


I swear this country gets dumber every election cycle.....

BlimpyCHIMP™
08-28-2010, 08:25 PM
:lmao:

Nailed it.


Don't forget BARACK IS A MUSLIM


I swear this country gets dumber every election cycle.....

Even yourself: witness, stupid..

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Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia), the co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act.

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, (Pub.L. 106-102, 113 Stat. 1338, enacted November 12, 1999) is an act of the 106th United States Congress (1999-2001) signed into law by President Bill Clinton which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, opening up the market among banking companies, securities companies and insurance companies. The Glass-Steagall Act prohibited any one institution from acting as any combination of an investment bank, a commercial bank, and an insurance company.

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act allowed commercial banks, investment banks, securities firms, and insurance companies to consolidate. For example, Citicorp (a commercial bank holding company) merged with Travelers Group (an insurance company) in 1998 to form the conglomerate Citigroup, a corporation combining banking, securities and insurance services under a house of brands that included Citibank, Smith Barney, Primerica, and Travelers. This combination, announced in 1998, would have violated the Glass-Steagall Act and the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 by combining securities, insurance, and banking, if not for a temporary waiver process.[1] The law was passed to legalize these mergers on a permanent basis. Historically, the combined industry has been known as the "financial services industry"

Criticism

President Barack Obama believes that the Act directly helped cause the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis.[23] Economists Robert Ekelund and Mark Thornton have also criticized the Act as contributing to the crisis. They state that while "in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance" the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made "perfect sense" as a legitimate act of deregulation, but under the present fiat monetary system it "amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly."[24]

BlimpyCHIMP™
08-28-2010, 08:27 PM
Clinton, fuckface.

NOT Ronnie, NOT Bush 1 or 2.. Clinton. And that was initiated by support from the Walmart, so who was working for Walmart in corporate legal but Hillary?

FORD
08-28-2010, 08:29 PM
Go die in a fire GAyR. And take Gramm, Leach, and Bliley with you.

BlimpyCHIMP™
08-28-2010, 08:36 PM
What about Loung and VA Beach blaming Bush when they're wrong?

I'm sure Wikipedia is incorrect some of the time, but what I've cited is hitorical fact anywhere you look.

FORD
08-28-2010, 08:49 PM
It's not JUST Chimpy. Or JUST Clinton. It's every stinking rotten piece of shit economic policy of the last 30 years. All of them reverse robin hood, steal from the poor and the working class and give to the ultra rich, anti American corporatist bullshit.

The damage started in 1981. Most of it had been done by the time Clinton signed that particular piece of shit. The BCE and the false "Democrats" in the DLC are equally guilty of systematically destroying everything Franklin Delano Roosevelt did to save this country from the first Great Depression. Which was caused by the ultra rich thieves doing exactly what they're doing now.

FDR's reforms kept this country safe for 45 years. After 1980, it was open season on them by the top 1%, most of whom never actually earned a single penny of their fortunes.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-28-2010, 08:50 PM
They state that while "in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance" the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made "perfect sense" as a legitimate act of deregulation, but under the present fiat monetary system it "amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly."[24]

Are you paying attention to what you're pasting GAR ??

It says that if everything were running perfect, and there was no corruption, and if there was actual Wall Street oversight, things would have been fine....

But when you have an administration who looked the other way for eight years and corruption ran wild with out a hint of oversight, that's when the shit hit the fan....

But I know, that's Obama's fault too....

Va Beach VH Fan
08-28-2010, 08:52 PM
What about Loung and VA Beach blaming Bush when they're wrong?

I'm sure Wikipedia is incorrect some of the time, but what I've cited is hitorical fact anywhere you look.

There's no arguing that Clinton was in office when that bill went into effect in 1999....

But you can't say with a straight face that the Bush administration had nothing to do with the economic failures since that time....

GAR
08-28-2010, 09:19 PM
NO. Billary SIGNED it.

Do not around the Bush beat.

GAR
08-28-2010, 09:24 PM
Wait - are you gonna blame the Republicans in 6 years for not deleting Obama's bad legislation?

Because to blame Bush is to say, Bush should have wiped the ABA's ass with Billary's bad lobbying and legislature.

Look, Bill AND Hllary together in the white house. Walmart paycheck. Walmart-paid legislature. Blame Bush for that?

Why does it seem everytime something goes wrong, no matter who is in charge, if it's on THEIR watch THEY own it? Because the Dems successfully did that in '82 to Reagan.

I'm soooo fucking tired of watching the Republicans getting bashed for not wiping the ass of their junior-counterparts in Congress that keep passing the buck.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-28-2010, 09:51 PM
Let's play a game named "Somehow McCain and Palin won the election" and remove the Socialist/Marxist out of the equation....

Knowing that Bush had already signed TARP for $700 billion before he left office, what do YOU think McCain would have done differently faced with the real threat of a depression ??

bueno bob
08-28-2010, 10:03 PM
Let's play a game named "Somehow McCain and Palin won the election" and remove the Socialist/Marxist out of the equation....

Knowing that Bush had already signed TARP for $700 billion before he left office, what do YOU think McCain would have done differently faced with the real threat of a depression ??

Pull ups?

:D

Va Beach VH Fan
08-28-2010, 10:06 PM
It's a legitimate question to me....

You can disagree all you want with Obama's policies, but I want to know what McCain would have done differently....

Seshmeister
08-28-2010, 11:13 PM
Exactly.

And anyone who calls Obama a Socialist or a Marxist is only demonstrating that they have absolutely no fucking idea what these words mean.

Nickdfresh
08-29-2010, 12:24 AM
.....and don't be fooled by Ped Nugent either.

The only reason he's showing up is to see if he can score with Piper Palin.

http://www.esportsea.com/global/media_preview.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffukung.net%2Fv% 2F15517%2Fpedobear-too-old.jpg

BigBadBrian
08-29-2010, 01:24 PM
everything Franklin Delano Roosevelt did to save this country from the first Great Depression.

There's another GREAT MYTH!

VanHalenFan5150
08-29-2010, 08:03 PM
My two cents consists of 3 words: Fuck Glenn Beck!

Terry
08-29-2010, 09:07 PM
Oh the sheer hate from the Left!!! :lmao:

You guys are really fearful about the upcoming midterms, aren't you?

Democrats/liberals/progressives/Marxists/Socialists (they're all the same, afterall) never could put up a good debate. They are only good at whining and complaining.

You guys are obviously desperate! Even you, kb

:biggrin:


No matter which party wins more seats in the upcoming midterms, the only sure losers are the American people.

The chasm between conservative AND progressive ideology in theory and what is practiced by supposed "republicans" and "democrats" once elected couldn't be any wider, yet fucktards still profess that it actually makes a difference which party is in power.

Considering the electorate, the current crop of leaders are probably exactly what we deserve.

GAR
08-30-2010, 03:42 AM
I think the Dems are going to be so shattered they cannot recover.

They have no idea what fiscal responsibility is, none of the stimulus worked now that we're in a doubledip recession.. and to avoid heavy taxing next year from so much corporate cash on the books i'm seeing a unique phase of merger-acquisition in the market .. which only lays more people off and FUCK YOU to the shareholders!

That's shareholder money. Intel just pulled it's second multibillion-dollar MnA this week.. that is the last straw before everyone pulls out of the market and you're going to see that chatter peak this week. Double-dip, thanks BP I mean Bush I mean // of course, BO

GAR
08-30-2010, 03:49 AM
Are you paying attention to what you're pasting GAR ??

It says that if everything were running perfect, and there was no corruption, and if there was actual Wall Street oversight, things would have been fine....

But when you have an administration who looked the other way for eight years and corruption ran wild with out a hint of oversight, that's when the shit hit the fan....

But I know, that's Obama's fault too....

Clinton signed that piece of deregulation crap, and the commentary about "perfect bill in a perfect world" ignores the impetus behind it: greedy ABA lawyers, with alot of backing by Walmart straight thru Hillary to Bill.

I want to know: How do politicians launder the money they get? Like Meg Whitman, why spend 100 million in advertising = what's she get out of it? 200 mil back? How do they get away converting campaign donations to personal cash.. i wanna know. All she did was jack up Feebay fees to where I can't do business there anymore.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-30-2010, 08:17 AM
You can't ask that question until you answer my question.....

GAR
08-30-2010, 10:32 AM
OH you mean how Bush Jr. was supposed to wipe Clinton ass, and eliminate that ticking time-bomb of crap legislature?

That's nothing compared to all the Healthscare and Stimuli bills Obama did to us.. and so next term what do you do when the Republicans don't remove that stuff?

Blame the guy who made the mess, or blame the new guy who doesn't clean it up: what a paradigm huh? Isn't that your point?

GAR
08-30-2010, 10:38 AM
VA I only trust the Republicans to let the Dems blow up the taxbase and take the blame for that. They get into power when its their turn and then have this nice, new tax base to feed like vultures off of, so why trust them to remove it?

We see so much in the media about how Obama's blown fiscal policy, but the Republicans aren't out there saying much about the plan to defeat all that and balance the budget.

THAT is why there is this Tea Party momentum, not due to anything Glen Beck has done.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-30-2010, 02:45 PM
OH you mean how Bush Jr. was supposed to wipe Clinton ass, and eliminate that ticking time-bomb of crap legislature?

That's nothing compared to all the Healthscare and Stimuli bills Obama did to us.. and so next term what do you do when the Republicans don't remove that stuff?

Blame the guy who made the mess, or blame the new guy who doesn't clean it up: what a paradigm huh? Isn't that your point?

No, that wasn't the question...

What would McCain have done differently ??

sadaist
08-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Maybe he's hoping for a primary challenge like I am?


I want to see that just for the historical value. A very rare happening indeed. Can you imagine that shitstorm if Hillary decides to oppose Barack? My God that would be fun to watch unfold.

However, I think it is more likely he will dump Biden and bring Hillary up to the #2 spot. But again, all of this depends on who the Republicans put up. If it is Palin, Barack might as well just keep things the way they are because there is no way she will win. If it's a decent ticket, then we will probably see some type of crazy shakeup.

Seshmeister
08-30-2010, 03:34 PM
It's completely crazy, because the bloated insane 2 year election process the president barely has time to do anything before they are campaigning again. No wonder nothing ever changes.

GAR
08-30-2010, 03:35 PM
OH thanks for clarif..

Would McCain do differently: I think he would have bent over backwards for the Bankers, the Goldman-Sach's, the B of A's and the entire ABA system, yes absolutely I do.

Would McCain pass ALL the stimulus: I think up to maybe half of what Obama did, and I don't think we'd have Geithner in there, but probably some other muppet from Goldman Sachs yes I do.

Would McCain bailout the auto industry? No I think he'd listen to his party and demand a loan method like we bailed out Iococca's Chrysler with in 82, we'd just take a mortgage on GM and Chrysler instead of fucking worthless paper because you CAN liquidate machinery tools presses and land, but when the paper's worthless what can you do but landfill it..

Would McCain do Healthscare, Global Scarewarming and NOW quadruple unemployment extentions? I think he'd maybe do two extensions. I recall myself getting 2 back in '93 from Clinton (which admittedly wasn't as severe a depression as today) but FUCK if my chick won't go the FUCK back to work.. on her 4th fucking extension!!!

McCain said himself he was against Global Scarewarming and Healthscare bills, so we may have had a 10 percent chance those things would come up I don't know - except he said he wouldn't sign such things - however with a Dem Congress who knows.

There's no MOTIVAtion on four unemployment extentions, we dont' have hardly any local walk-in offices left for unemployment like other states either. When I was a kid, I could just walk in look up on the job board, fill out a slip and a counselor would pull the card and sit down to talk to me before sending me on an interview. Those days are GONE and all the cheap jobs are nabbed by the Mexicans.

I feel really bad for kids these days just starting out to look for that first full-time job. It's fucked for them. No counselors, no jobs-board system, just an eList on the web and they're on their own to apply.

Do I think McCain would have been half as bad, YES I think that guy was maybe more than half as worthless, but he had leadership ability, experience, learned from his faults, all that you need to take charge and I still didn't vote for the fucker.

I said NO to both, I mentioned at DDLR pencilling in "Mick L. Mouse" for president and "Don L. Duck" for vice because I'd rather cast a wasted vote in MY name, than have some SEIU fucker forge my ballot as a mail-in which I suspect is what they did to get Obama in.. people like myself who for many years thought their vote doesnt matter in this Electoral College system we have stealing our votes by districting proxies. It shouldn't exist anymore, technology's past all that since the computer age and we're not getting our representation still.

So although it almost doesn't matter who gets in the Oval Office, I figured out myself these people are groomed from local levels and if my vote has an effect there, that maybe the best one can do is to disallow the bad seeds from starting in politics.

GAR
08-30-2010, 03:42 PM
It's completely crazy, because the bloated insane 2 year election process the president barely has time to do anything before they are campaigning again. No wonder nothing ever changes.

Obama's a lazy fucking tool and wastes a lot of time: next time he signs a bill, notice how many pens he uses! He signs an "O" and then a "B" and then an "A" and so on.. "barack hussein obama" 18 letters/18 pens. Yeah, he's in a hurry to do Great Work getting all 18 pens out in the mail to his constituents with a placard saying "Obama can't do shit for you, but please accept this pen and proclamation stating Obama used this pen in the signing of Bill SB______ ."

Placative and worthless this guy... worse than Bush okay? Worse.

If he doesnt have any time in two years to do anything he could quit with the pen-cramming sessions. Photography flashes, back-slapping cuntgradulations.. all that, it takes all day just to sign a bill! In the old days, they'd just type something out and sign the thing and get on to the next order of business..

FORD
08-30-2010, 04:23 PM
I want to see that just for the historical value. A very rare happening indeed. Can you imagine that shitstorm if Hillary decides to oppose Barack? My God that would be fun to watch unfold.

However, I think it is more likely he will dump Biden and bring Hillary up to the #2 spot. But again, all of this depends on who the Republicans put up. If it is Palin, Barack might as well just keep things the way they are because there is no way she will win. If it's a decent ticket, then we will probably see some type of crazy shakeup.

Hillary would be pointless, as would Biden. If there's a primary challenge, it's going to come from REAL Democrats who are sick and fucking tired of what the DLC has done to our party. Hillary (along with her husband) is a charter member of the DLC, and Biden has been willing to kiss their asses when it comes to war policies and the banking industry (despite his image as a train riding, beer drinking, burger eating populist.)

Obama was able to campaign effectively as anti-DLC. Unfortunately, we all bought it. Myself included. And what was it, 48 hours after the election that Rahm Emanuel was announced as his chief of staff? I knew even then that we were in trouble.

No, the primary challenge can only come from a REAL Democrat. The best choice (as my avatar indicates) is Howard Dean.

Dean was proven right about everything he campaigned on in 2003/04.

Dean was proven right about everything he did as Democratic party chair from 2005-2008. And look how fast the party went off the tracks the minute he was gone.

DEAN 2012. YEEEEAAARRRGGGHHH!

hambon4lif
08-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Obama was able to campaign effectively as anti-DLC. Unfortunately, we all bought it. Myself included. And what was it, 48 hours after the election that Rahm Emanuel was announced as his chief of staff? I knew even then that we were in trouble.Another thing that may have blindsided everyone was Obama hooking up with Reid and Pelosi instead of telling them to go fuck themselves.
Nobody saw that one coming either......

GAR
08-30-2010, 04:35 PM
No, the primary challenge can only come from a REAL Democrat. The best choice (as my avatar indicates) is Howard Dean.

You may well know Dean isn't going to do well within the party to challenge a sitting party leader, but since we agree there must be someone within the Democratic party ranks qualified enough to challenge Obama: who do you suggest?

Because I have no idea myself. I'm independant but give me ANYONE in any party with proven leadership, I'm begging you. BEFORE the hyperinflation sets in..

GAR
08-30-2010, 04:38 PM
Another thing that may have blindsided everyone was Obama hooking up with Reid and Pelosi instead of telling them to go fuck themselves.
Nobody saw that one coming either......

He's going to let the mid-terms do that FOR him, cmon. You gotta see THAT one coming!

I don't know if Pelosi's terms' up but Boxer and Reid = goners.

FORD
08-30-2010, 04:42 PM
It's completely crazy, because the bloated insane 2 year election process the president barely has time to do anything before they are campaigning again. No wonder nothing ever changes.

We definitely have to kill corporate financing of elections. That alone would kill the second year. From there, it's a matter of reforming the primary system. There's no reason whatsoever for the Iowa caucus & the New Hampshire primary to be in January. For that matter, it's ludicrous that the same two fucking states (one of which has a huge MonSatan presence) get to have the first primaries all the time anyway.

I propose a new system as follows : There are 57 primaries or caucuses in total (The 50 states, Washington DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, and a few others that slip my mind at the moment) Start a 6 week cycle, beginning in April, into May. 10 elections per week (with 7 the last week)

The states and territories will be rotated each election cycle so no states get a preferential role in deciding the President, and no winners will be declared until all states and territories have voted. A clear frontrunner by mid May still leaves plenty of time to plan the party conventions in the summer. If there is no clear winner, let the delegates decide at the convention.

I also recommend that the elections be held on Saturdays for widest availability to voters, and the polls open late to accommodate those who work a day shift on Saturday, or Jewish voters who couldn't come in before sundown because of the Sabbath. Caucuses should be held Saturday evening for the same reasons.

FORD
08-31-2010, 10:38 AM
BecKKK's fans are as confused as he is.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD5NvD56vRs

BigBadBrian
08-31-2010, 10:51 AM
BecKKK's fans are as confused as he is.....



Obama knows nothing of the Christian faith and neither does Jeremiah Wright. Wright's religion is "Blame Whitey" while Obama's is "Muslims Who Blame Whitey."

:gulp:

Seshmeister
08-31-2010, 01:17 PM
We definitely have to kill corporate financing of elections. That alone would kill the second year. From there, it's a matter of reforming the primary system. There's no reason whatsoever for the Iowa caucus & the New Hampshire primary to be in January. For that matter, it's ludicrous that the same two fucking states (one of which has a huge MonSatan presence) get to have the first primaries all the time anyway.

I propose a new system as follows : There are 57 primaries or caucuses in total (The 50 states, Washington DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, and a few others that slip my mind at the moment) Start a 6 week cycle, beginning in April, into May. 10 elections per week (with 7 the last week)

The states and territories will be rotated each election cycle so no states get a preferential role in deciding the President, and no winners will be declared until all states and territories have voted. A clear frontrunner by mid May still leaves plenty of time to plan the party conventions in the summer. If there is no clear winner, let the delegates decide at the convention.

I also recommend that the elections be held on Saturdays for widest availability to voters, and the polls open late to accommodate those who work a day shift on Saturday, or Jewish voters who couldn't come in before sundown because of the Sabbath. Caucuses should be held Saturday evening for the same reasons.

Our elections take 4 weeks and by the 3rd week everyone is starting to get bored.

More importantly though, the insane US process costs vast amounts of money which of course gives the rich huge amounts of power.

Seshmeister
08-31-2010, 01:25 PM
Obama's a lazy fucking tool and wastes a lot of time: next time he signs a bill, notice how many pens he uses! He signs an "O" and then a "B" and then an "A" and so on.. "barack hussein obama" 18 letters/18 pens. Yeah, he's in a hurry to do Great Work getting all 18 pens out in the mail to his constituents with a placard saying "Obama can't do shit for you, but please accept this pen and proclamation stating Obama used this pen in the signing of Bill SB______ ."

Placative and worthless this guy... worse than Bush okay? Worse.

If he doesnt have any time in two years to do anything he could quit with the pen-cramming sessions. Photography flashes, back-slapping cuntgradulations.. all that, it takes all day just to sign a bill! In the old days, they'd just type something out and sign the thing and get on to the next order of business..

I think maybe Obama is a quicker writer than you if you think that would take all day.

Of course a quick look shows that this multiple pen thing has been going on for many years.

Here's an example from one of your most hated moments in history. :)

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Only Bush broke the tradition by just using 1 pen but then of course he was only signing with an X

FORD
08-31-2010, 03:35 PM
Our elections take 4 weeks and by the 3rd week everyone is starting to get bored.

More importantly though, the insane US process costs vast amounts of money which of course gives the rich huge amounts of power.

Just heard on Thom Hartmann's show this morning, that the Koch Brothers, the US Chamber of Commerce, and various similiar right wing corporatist groups have already sunk $400 million into the 2010 election, after being enabled by the "Shittizens United" Supreme Court decision.

And it's not even September yet. In a fucking mid term election.

Just sickening.... and I did enough puking last week.

FORD
08-31-2010, 04:19 PM
Can you find a single person with a three digit IQ in this entire video? (Other than the journalist interviewing them.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg

GAR
08-31-2010, 05:29 PM
Only Bush broke the tradition by just using 1 pen but then of course he was only signing with an X

I'm supposed to be upset here over the second freeing of the slaves by the Democrats AGAIN?

GAR
08-31-2010, 06:19 PM
Can you find a single person with a three digit IQ in this entire video? (Other than the journalist interviewing them.)

Shouldn't we just tax the motherfucking SHIT out of these bigoted, racist bastards and give it all to "Chase Whiteside" the maker of this video, New Left Media?

That's a great "whitey-bashing" pseudonym.. Chase the White's Hide. His listed address is a boarded-up historic building in Ohio, with a fake phone number, so I assume his name's fake too.

Typical of such fake Left assasination pieces, I assume. "Let's show how stupid these overfed white people really are." then hide behind your fakeness. Yay! He's funnier as a comedian blogsite poster..

http://chasewhiteside.com/ there you go, run and give him a kiss FORD he's really smart like you are.

GAR
08-31-2010, 06:32 PM
.. also he veils references that he's attracted to men.

FORD
08-31-2010, 06:38 PM
.. also he veils references that he's attracted to men.

Well there ya go! Now you can get over that broken heart you got from Jizzy.

GAR
08-31-2010, 06:44 PM
.. also he veils references that he's a bong-loader.

You've verbalized plenty enough regarding homosexuality AND marijuana, haven't you..

FORD
08-31-2010, 08:52 PM
Mike Malloy channels his inner BecKKK


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbFLJ-XrgU0

kwame k
08-31-2010, 08:56 PM
Can you find a single person with a three digit IQ in this entire video? (Other than the journalist interviewing them.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8PmEjxUfg

Sweet Jesus, the gene pool needs some chlorine in it......

FORD
08-31-2010, 11:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIAJohQbtxA

ELVIS
08-31-2010, 11:19 PM
Why do you like Keith Overstuff and Rachel Madcow ??

ELVIS
08-31-2010, 11:22 PM
And why no thread on Obama's BS Iraq war support speech ??

FORD
08-31-2010, 11:37 PM
More about geese and 8 year old reincarnations of George Washington.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D82rL3Z1QgQ

FORD
08-31-2010, 11:39 PM
And why no thread on Obama's BS Iraq war support speech ??

Honestly, I forgot all about it and missed it. And from what I've heard, it's probably just as well that I did. Hearing Obama call Chimpy a "patriot" or claiming that the Iraq war was started "to disarm a state" (that wasn't fucking armed) might have caused me to put my foot through my TV. And I can't really afford a new one at the moment.

FORD
08-31-2010, 11:40 PM
Why do you like Keith Overstuff and Rachel Madcow ??

Because they have the best 2 hours of programming on any news channel.

GAR
09-01-2010, 12:39 AM
Sounds like you're too indifferent to notice the channel's bloated with Obamalies.

Carloscda
09-01-2010, 03:37 AM
Hmmm

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Va Beach VH Fan
09-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Would McCain bailout the auto industry? No I think he'd listen to his party and demand a loan method like we bailed out Iococca's Chrysler with in 82, we'd just take a mortgage on GM and Chrysler instead of fucking worthless paper because you CAN liquidate machinery tools presses and land, but when the paper's worthless what can you do but landfill it..

You do realize that GM is paying back the loan on schedule, and with interest, right ?

And when GM goes IPO later this year, the loan will virtually be paid back in full....

Seshmeister
09-01-2010, 09:59 AM
Damn those pesky facts.

hambon4lif
09-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Education Secretary Urged His Employees To Attend Sharpton's Rally
By: Lisa Gartner
Examiner Staff Writer
August 30, 2010

President Obama's top education official urged government employees to attend a rally that the Rev. Al Sharpton organized to counter a larger conservative event on the Mall.

"ED staff are invited to join Secretary Arne Duncan, the Reverend Al Sharpton, and other leaders on Saturday, Aug. 28, for the 'Reclaim the Dream' rally and march," began an internal e-mail sent to more than 4,000 employees of the Department of Education on Wednesday.

Sharpton created the event after Glenn Beck announced a massive Tea Party "Restoring Honor" rally at the Lincoln Memorial, where King spoke in 1963.

The Washington Examiner learned of the e-mail from a Department of Education employee who felt uncomfortable with Duncan's request.

Although the e-mail does not violate the Hatch Act, which forbids federal employees from participating in political campaigns, Education Department workers should feel uneasy, said David Boaz, executive vice president of the libertarian Cato Institute.

"It sends a signal that activity on behalf of one side of a political debate is expected within a department. It's highly inappropriate ... even in the absence of a direct threat," Boaz said. "If we think of a Bush cabinet official sending an e-mail to civil servants asking them to attend a Glenn Beck rally, there would be a lot of outrage over that."

Russ Whitehurst, director of the liberal-leaning Brookings Institution's Brown Center of Education Policy, said nothing like this happened when he was a Department of Education program director from 2001 to 2008: "Only political appointees would have been made aware of such an event and encouraged to attend."

Officially, Sharpton's event commemorated the 47th anniversary of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech.

"[Conservatives] think we showed up [to vote for Barack Obama] in 2008 and that we won't show up again. But we know how to sucker-punch, and we're coming out again in 2010," Sharpton said.

Obama avoided comment on Saturday's dueling rallies, but Duncan took the podium alongside Sharpton and 30 other speakers on the football field of Dunbar High School. Thousands of mostly blacks listened -- and a lone man booed -- as Duncan called education "the civil rights issue of our generation."

"Educators, we have to stop thinking of [poor-performing children] as other people's children," he said.

Speakers at the Sharpton rally praised Obama and took jabs at the Tea Party.

"Dr. King gave us a miracle in 2008. He gave us the first African-American president, and we must let them know today that we support [Obama]," said John Boyd, Jr., president of the National Black Farmers Association.

D.C. Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton said Beck's rally "would change nothing. ... We will move right over you."

Education Department spokeswoman Sandra Abrevaya defended Duncan's decision. "This was a back-to-school event," she said.

Duncan was chief executive officer of Chicago Public Schools for seven years before Obama nominated him in December 2008.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/education/Education-secretary-urged-his-employees-to-go-to-Sharpton_s-rally-651280-101839293.html#ixzz0yIKZDW3Z

GAR
09-01-2010, 01:21 PM
You do realize that GM is paying back the loan on schedule, and with interest, right ?

And when GM goes IPO later this year, the loan will virtually be paid back in full....

.. and that money from that stock dividends will go where the unspent stimululs billions went for reelection slush fund - but who hangs onto the bonds - Geithner?

hambon4lif
09-01-2010, 02:50 PM
Sharpton's had practically zero credibility in my eyes since the Twana Brawley incident..Sharpton has "zero credibility" whatsoever.

I found both rallies to be unnecessary, and disgraceful to the memory of a good man.

If someone possessed the cumulative I.Q. of everyone who attended both rallies, you'd have someone who could barely tie their own shoes or wipe their own ass. Instead of bashing them, I'd rather help them...
1. loop, swoop, & pull
2. front to back

Sharpton is someone who specializes in division, of conning blacks (and society at large) that it's still the late 60's, and 'the man' still has his boot on their neck.
Be honest, have you walked past a "whites only" drinking fountain lately? Have you walked into a restaraunt lately with a sign in the window that states that they don't "serve colored people"?
An educated black person makes their way through todays society knowledgable of their rights, and exercises them regularly. They'll be the first to tell you that they have no use for an Al Sharpton, a Jesse Jackass, or anyone of that ilk.

Al Sharpton has no use for them either, because he can't make any money from them. He can't convince them they are still oppressed. He can't convince them into thinking they will be a permanent underclass. Sharpton is nothing more than a poverty pimp and a charlatan who clearly has no place in a society that's moving upward...and onward.

Both Beck and Sharpton were out there "playing" Dr.Martin Luther King, and between the both of them, they don't have one-tenth of the courage the man had.


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GAR
09-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Well, the GB thing wasn't necessary, but what it did do that was positive was provide another event for a Teaparty protest to happen, since it's just regular people disgusted with the government getting together to have a beer and wave signs for a few hours and discuss what's wrong with the country.

They don't have money for staging, permits, PA systems etc. so Beck did a fine thing to accomadate.

I don't see it as GB preempting, or trying to co-opt off this protest momentum or he'd have ran his program a little fuller with higher visibility, guests and music but he didn't so it remained what looks to me a bit low-key.

Who cares anymore about banging the MLK Jr drum. Great, let's honor that, but moving onto what's broken in time to fix things is more important.

Communists like FORD here would prefer to dilute the message by racial branding, than to join up even though he's admitted regret in voting for Obama. Just cut your losses early like 66 percent of Dems FORD and go Teaparty, or independant like me and say fuck you to these two-party assholes in DC.

Seshmeister
09-01-2010, 03:42 PM
The Glenn Beck thing was similar to the bit in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest where Jack Nicholson takes all the mentally ill people out for the day on a boat trip.

http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/cuckoo.jpg

The main difference is of course that the Jack Nicholson character isn't a fat stupid prick.

GAR
09-01-2010, 04:01 PM
I forget how that went, were they also misled by promises Jack Nicholsen's character never fulfilled?

Was that ship the SS Pelosi?

Kristy
09-01-2010, 04:10 PM
He isn't charging admission is he?

Only if stupidity was cash he'd make a killing.

And those who believe in Beck should also look into the definition of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

(Copy & Paste time - Like Big Bad Brain Drain)

Pay attention:

Symptoms of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

Schizotypal personality disorder is characterized by a pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

* Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference) - Sound like Beck?
* Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations) - Sound like Beck?
* Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
* Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped) - Sound like Beck?
* Suspiciousness or paranoid idealtion - Sound like Beck?
* Inappropriate or constricted affect
* Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar - sound like Beck?
* Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
* Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self

Seems Beck meet 6 points of a Schizotypal criteria and you need a minimum of 5.

PETE'S BROTHER
09-01-2010, 04:36 PM
Only if stupidity was cash he'd make a killing.

And those who believe in Beck should also look into the definition of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

(Copy & Paste time - Like Big Bad Brain Drain)

Pay attention:

Symptoms of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

Schizotypal personality disorder is characterized by a pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

* Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference) - Sound like Beck?
* Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations) - Sound like Beck?
* Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
* Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped) - Sound like Beck?
* Suspiciousness or paranoid idealtion - Sound like Beck?
* Inappropriate or constricted affect
* Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar - sound like Beck?
* Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
* Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self

Seems Beck meet 6 points of a Schizotypal criteria and you need a minimum of 5.

fuck, sounds like everyone here, at work and the bar.




or maybe it is just me:beers8:

GAR
09-01-2010, 04:46 PM
Those either attacking Beck or defending him are usually more entertaining than Beck himself.

However, Beck is the only one pulling a paycheck for exhibiting odd behaviours - while anyone attacking or labeling those disgusted with the current administration that merely stage public protests are NOT entertaining. In fact, they are BORING regardless of pulling a paycheck for their attacks.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-01-2010, 07:10 PM
You forgot, "Anyone who believes in any religion".....

FORD
09-01-2010, 07:17 PM
You forgot, "Anyone who believes in any religion".....

Well, Sesh would tell you that's where the "superstition" part comes in.

I wouldn't go that far myself, though I don't have much use for "organized religion" of any kind.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-01-2010, 09:00 PM
I hear ya FORD, but the older I get, the more upset I get when I think of the absolute scam that religion is, and how it has tarnished the world....

Seshmeister
09-01-2010, 09:25 PM
Well, Sesh would tell you that's where the "superstition" part comes in.

I wouldn't go that far myself, though I don't have much use for "organized religion" of any kind.

I don't have a problem with disorganized religion if there is such a thing. If it isn't organized then that implies to me no dogmatic rule book and so is much closer to a belief system or personal morality. Without organization it can't be used as a way to impose on others or as a means of controlling people's actions based on non rational beliefs.

Dr. Love
09-01-2010, 09:34 PM
If someone possessed the cumulative I.Q. of everyone who attended both rallies, you'd have someone who could barely tie their own shoes or wipe their own ass.

Don't feel threatened, I'm sure such a person would dumb things down so you could understand them. Lord knows the rest of us have to do it every day. :)

hambon4lif
09-01-2010, 09:57 PM
Don't feel threatened, I'm sure such a person would dumb things down so you could understand them. Lord knows the rest of us have to do it every day. :)You may be right! Afterall, I'm just here to snap my gum, twirl my hair in my fingers, and, like, totally learn stuff.....:biggrin:

jhale667
09-01-2010, 10:05 PM
Sweet Jesus, the gene pool needs some chlorine in it......

Holy crap, doesn't it? :eek: "All I know iz whut mah sister told me" :rolleyes:

GAR
09-02-2010, 12:04 AM
You say that like you're gonna live for ever..

GO-SPURS-GO
09-02-2010, 12:47 AM
Can you find a single person with a three digit IQ in this entire video? (Other than the journalist interviewing them.)



I know you’re a smart guy FORD so you know that they interviewed hundreds of people but hand picked only the dumb responses to make that video. ;)

It happens on BOTH sides.

Notice the sign at the 1:07 mark. That lady doesn’t even know how to spell his name.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqB0t4jRrC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaHXT-EYf0

There’s so many of these videos it was hard for me to choose.

I think it’s safe to say that there are ignorant voters on BOTH sides of the aisles.

vh rides again
09-02-2010, 01:14 AM
Only if stupidity was cash he'd make a killing.

And those who believe in ford should also look into the definition of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

(Copy & Paste time - Like Big Bad Brain Drain)

Pay attention:

Symptoms of Schizotypal Personality Disorder

Schizotypal personality disorder is characterized by a pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

* Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference) - Sound like ford?
* Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g., superstitiousness, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, or "sixth sense"; in children and adolescents, bizarre fantasies or preoccupations) - Sound like ford?
* Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
* Odd thinking and speech (e.g., vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, overelaborate, or stereotyped) - Sound like ford?
* Suspiciousness or paranoid idealtion - Sound like ford?
* Inappropriate or constricted affect
* Behavior or appearance that is odd, eccentric, or peculiar - sound like ford?
* Lack of close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives
* Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self ford all the way

Seems ford meet 6 points of a Schizotypal criteria and you need a minimum of 5.
if you replaced becks name with fords this would be the post of the century

GO-SPURS-GO
09-02-2010, 01:44 AM
if you replaced becks name with fords this would be the post of the century
:biggrin:

FORD
09-02-2010, 01:52 AM
Not even remotely close, troll.

BigBadBrian
09-02-2010, 05:22 AM
Seems Beck meet 6 points of a Schizotypal criteria and you need a minimum of 5.

Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?

PETE'S BROTHER
09-02-2010, 10:34 AM
I don't have a problem with disorganized religion if there is such a thing. If it isn't organized then that implies to me no dogmatic rule book and so is much closer to a belief system or personal morality. Without organization it can't be used as a way to impose on others or as a means of controlling people's actions based on non rational beliefs.

like the wiccans:baaa:

PETE'S BROTHER
09-02-2010, 10:35 AM
Don't feel threatened, I'm sure such a person would dumb things down so you could understand them. Lord knows the rest of us have to do it every day. :)

STELLAR fuckin' sig!!!

hambon4lif
09-02-2010, 02:19 PM
Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?...I hope to someday be articulate enough to explain just how unnecessary, lowdown, dirty, and fucked-up this statement really is....

Warham
09-02-2010, 03:24 PM
Because they have the best 2 hours of programming on any news channel.

The best two (actually, three) hours on MSNBC takes place when Morning Joe comes on. Joe's not ashamed to call out anyone, including people on his own network for stupid shit that they say.

FORD
09-02-2010, 03:30 PM
Yeah, Joey Scarface. The Gary Condit of Florida. Except the dead intern was actually found in his office. And at least Condit was eventually found to be innocent. Where's his TV show? ;)

Warham
09-02-2010, 03:33 PM
I can't stand Keith Olbermann. The guy sucked even when he was at ESPN.

I'd rather watch Ed Shultz. I can at least make it through a few minutes of his show.

Kristy
09-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?

No, you asshole. She suffered from residual schizophrenia. Where you have copy-and paste-no fucking-thoughts-of-your-own-shit-brained-itis.

Little Texan
09-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?

You're now officially below Gar on my shit list. That's hitting pretty far below the belt, considering the woman just lost her sister not too long ago you sorry, lowlife sack of shit! Do us all a favor and go play with a live grenade, BigBitchBrian.

kwame k
09-02-2010, 09:13 PM
Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?

Dude, we all rip on each other but for Christ's sake.........that was uncalled for!

You sir, are a fucking asshole!

Nickdfresh
09-02-2010, 10:21 PM
Did your sister meet all six? Hmmm?

BigBlandCryin,' remindng people everyday how professed "christian conservatives" can be classless pieces of shit....

GAR
09-02-2010, 11:50 PM
You're now officially below Gar on my shit list.

HEY man, don't get me involved in that one.. my ex was fully, FULLY nutters and so being fully edumacated in Whacko 101, I didn't find it offensive what either Bri or Kristy before him said about schizo's. Go eat a sambowich.

BigBadBrian
09-03-2010, 06:46 AM
You're now officially below Gar on my shit list. That's hitting pretty far below the belt, considering the woman just lost her sister not too long ago you sorry, lowlife sack of shit! Do us all a favor and go play with a live grenade, BigBitchBrian.

Fuck off, little boy (and that's spelled with a lower case 'b')

BigBadBrian
09-03-2010, 06:49 AM
Dude, we all rip on each other but for Christ's sake.........that was uncalled for!



Whew!!!!! I'm relieved. I was afraid I wasn't being harsh enough. The cunt shouldn't put her business out for everyone to see. She's also a schizo lesbian....kinda like you, bitch! :beers8:

Seshmeister
09-03-2010, 06:58 AM
Maybe you should take a break for a bit Brian, you seem to be upset in real life at the moment and bringing it here.

BigBadBrian
09-03-2010, 07:02 AM
Maybe you should take a break for a bit Brian, you seem to be upset in real life at the moment and bringing it here.

Nah, I just wanted to make sure I had the ability to still piss people off.

Nickdfresh
09-03-2010, 08:05 AM
Nah, I just wanted to make sure I had the ability to still piss people off.

Hey! I here Max has brain cancer. Maybe you can go taunt him too about his real life tragedy?

I mean, it's not like your one of those douchebags that runs around Facebook and the like looking for shit to spew at people you're too feeble to actually debate, loser.

BigBadBrian
09-03-2010, 08:07 AM
Hey! I here Max has brain cancer. Maybe you can go taunt him too about his real life tragedy?

I mean, it's not like your one of those douchebags that runs around Facebook and the like looking for shit to spew at people you're too feeble to actually debate, loser.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:SQPaBiljUQDqZM:http://www.copa-puppets.org/images/12Pinocchio-Baker.jpg&t=1

Seshmeister
09-03-2010, 08:46 AM
Enough of this negativity, on a Friday too - I'm off.

If anyone is looking for me I'll be in the pub until it shuts and then a club and then back to my little studio for a nightcap.

Have fun.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-03-2010, 09:43 AM
I can't stand Keith Olbermann. The guy sucked even when he was at ESPN.

I'd rather watch Ed Shultz. I can at least make it through a few minutes of his show.

I give Olbermann credit, outside of Bill Maher he was the only one on TV calling Bush on his shenanigans....

But there's no doubt, in my mind anyway, that Rachel Maddow has clearly surpassed him in terms of the show content, she is outstanding....

She debates Republicans (who actually come on her show) on the issues without getting personal and does it in an articulate manner....

While Olbermann has resorted, unfortunately, to a lot of jokes and name-calling... I still watch his show, but Rachel lays out the issues very clearly for the viewer to understand....

jhale667
09-03-2010, 01:06 PM
Hey! I here Max has brain cancer. Maybe you can go taunt him too about his real life tragedy?

I mean, it's not like your one of those douchebags that runs around Facebook and the like looking for shit to spew at people you're too feeble to actually debate, loser.

And he fails at THAT, too! Fucking weirdo stalker asshole. His only joy in life, spewing hate and "pissing people off". And stalking those that best him (which means EVERYONE) "looking for dirt". What a sad excuse for a human being.

Yeah, but with the Kristy attack, Brie's progressed to BEYOND pathetic now. Yet another RA poster that if they died in a fire the world would be a better place.

Seriously, Brie - you are a sad little boy. With a ghey puppet fetish, no less. Go play in traffic, will ya? :dafinger:

FORD
09-03-2010, 01:10 PM
I give Olbermann credit, outside of Bill Maher he was the only one on TV calling Bush on his shenanigans....

But there's no doubt, in my mind anyway, that Rachel Maddow has clearly surpassed him in terms of the show content, she is outstanding....

She debates Republicans (who actually come on her show) on the issues without getting personal and does it in an articulate manner....

While Olbermann has resorted, unfortunately, to a lot of jokes and name-calling... I still watch his show, but Rachel lays out the issues very clearly for the viewer to understand....

Yeah, the right wingers really hate Rachel. They don't like getting their asses kicked by a woman. Let alone a Lesbian. :biggrin:

Nitro Express
09-03-2010, 01:31 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/bhhz6b.jpg

Mount Vernon is a boring little town in Skagit county. Probably most time I ever spent there was as a kid and had to wait around there for a couple hours while an overheated radiator got fixed. Lots of people drive through there, since it's about an hour south of the Canadian border. Maybe even some take a right turn there during the warmer months to drive the North Cascades Highway (it's closed in the winter) but nobody really GOES to Mount Vernon. Unless they're in the florist industry and it's tulip season.

So I guess I understand how a town that boring and that bored would latch on to any claim to fame they could, even if it's because of a piece of shit like BecKKK. But I'm happy that some of the locals there didn't go along with the scam and protested his ass when he came to collect his "key to the city".

My sister moved from Issaquah to a tulip farm up there. Every spring my Mount Vernon dafodils and tulips emerge.

Nitro Express
09-03-2010, 01:36 PM
Yeah, the right wingers really hate Rachel. They don't like getting their asses kicked by a woman. Let alone a Lesbian. :biggrin:

Olberman was entertaining when he slagged Bush but now he's boring. That Ed dude is pure annoying. Rachel seems to be the one with the brain. She makes her fun but she has had some good interviews and has been fair with conservative leaning independants on her show.

PETE'S BROTHER
09-03-2010, 01:40 PM
we were there 2 weeks ago. stayed near stanwood a couple nights.

FORD
09-03-2010, 01:48 PM
Stanwood? Is there even a motel in Stanwood? :biggrin:

I'm joking of course. I've got a redneck branch of the family in that area. They used to live in Arlington, till it got too "cityfied". Some of them did the extreme thing and took off to Northern Idaho (no, they aren't Nazis) and the rest pretty much spread out over the area from Stanwood to Sedro Wooley.

PETE'S BROTHER
09-03-2010, 02:13 PM
Stanwood? Is there even a motel in Stanwood? :biggrin:

I'm joking of course. I've got a redneck branch of the family in that area. They used to live in Arlington, till it got too "cityfied". Some of them did the extreme thing and took off to Northern Idaho (no, they aren't Nazis) and the rest pretty much spread out over the area from Stanwood to Sedro Wooley.

no motel that i saw, we camped in a friend's backyard. quite rednecky. had a blast, tho. he had a kick ass motorcycle shop, and a clearing out back in the pines with a big pire pit, etc.

Jagermeister
09-03-2010, 02:16 PM
no motel that i saw, we camped in a friend's backyard. quite rednecky. had a blast, tho. he had a kick ass motorcycle shop, and a clearing out back in the pines with a big pire pit, etc.

Did you smoke any of the devil herb? :biggrin:

Va Beach VH Fan
09-03-2010, 02:16 PM
Rachel seems to be the one with the brain. She makes her fun but she has had some good interviews and has been fair with conservative leaning independants on her show.

Being a Rhodes Scholar will do that.... :D

PETE'S BROTHER
09-03-2010, 02:19 PM
Did you smoke any of the devil herb? :biggrin:

fuck yes! the guy who hooked me up gets it from the same guy who supplied capt. phil. (as the story goes) and some of the other "catch" gents

Jagermeister
09-03-2010, 02:21 PM
fuck yes! the guy who hooked me up gets it from the same guy who supplied capt. phil. (as the story goes) and some of the other "catch" gents

Ya don't say. lol.

PETE'S BROTHER
09-03-2010, 02:24 PM
Stanwood? Is there even a motel in Stanwood? :biggrin:

I'm joking of course. I've got a redneck branch of the family in that area. They used to live in Arlington, till it got too "cityfied". Some of them did the extreme thing and took off to Northern Idaho (no, they aren't Nazis) and the rest pretty much spread out over the area from Stanwood to Sedro Wooley.

went to the packer/seahawk game too, beautiful new stadium.

Kristy
09-03-2010, 02:56 PM
Fuck off, little boy (and that's spelled with a lower case 'b')

Does the copy & paste Brain Drain know little of the proper use of quotation marks?

Warham
09-03-2010, 04:41 PM
Yeah, the right wingers really hate Rachel. They don't like getting their asses kicked by a woman. Let alone a Lesbian. :biggrin:

Nothing wrong with lesbians, as long as they are hot.

FORD
09-03-2010, 04:43 PM
Nothing wrong with lesbians, as long as they are hot.

You would have been all over Rachel if you knew her in high school......

http://media.sundancechannel.com/UPLOADS/blog/wordpress/images/2010/07/rachel_maddow_high_school.jpg

Warham
09-03-2010, 05:04 PM
Na, she's not my type. She's got a neck like a Chicago Bears linebacker.

BigBadBrian
09-04-2010, 05:27 AM
Does the copy & paste Brain Drain know little of the proper use of quotation marks?



Need a tissue, Schizo?

jhale667
09-04-2010, 05:35 AM
http://www.counteragent.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/weak-sauce-thumb.jpg

Fuck OFF. What a pathetic fucking scumbag you are. :wow2: You've reached a new low even for you, Brie.


Do the world a favor, end your own miserable life. Don't wait for the punchline to that - there isn't one. Just DIE.

BigBadBrian
09-04-2010, 07:21 AM
http://www.counteragent.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/weak-sauce-thumb.jpg

Fuck OFF. What a pathetic fucking scumbag you are. :wow2: You've reached a new low even for you, Brie.


Do the world a favor, end your own miserable life. Don't wait for the punchline to that - there isn't one. Just DIE.

I would be happy to debate you on the merits, or lack thereof, of the Obama Administration. No...instead, you and your liberal friends have to whine, whine, bitch, bitch.

Did I mention how you are a whiney little bitch? You morons somehow think you're the only ones who can play the INSULT GAME. In fact, I made the rules to that game.

Now then, you better ask DoucheMachine what to say next because you're copying my lines way too much. Where is that fat-ass anyway? I hope he's practicing his bass and guitar because I saw him on YouTube and he really sucks. And the name of that band of his...it sounds like he stole that from some Middle School girl group. :biggrin:

Va Beach VH Fan
09-04-2010, 08:47 PM
I hear ya FORD, but the older I get, the more upset I get when I think of the absolute scam that religion is, and how it has tarnished the world....

I'll let George amplify my point....

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Nickdfresh
09-05-2010, 02:49 PM
I would be happy to debate you on the merits, or lack thereof, of the Obama Administration....

You're incapable of "rational debate," manchild. Which is why you resort to continued personal attacks, low blows, and actually running around social websites to collect data on your cyber-enemies...

I'm pretty sure you're a miserable, sad sack in real life...

FORD
09-05-2010, 03:02 PM
I'll let George amplify my point....

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George makes some valid points here, but I'm not about to pray to Joe Pesci :biggrin: