Cost of Government

[vanhalen1r2]

In 2010, Cost of Government Day falls on August 19. Working people must toil 231 days out of the year just to meet all costs imposed by government - 8 days later than last year and a full 32 days longer than 2008.

In other words, in 2010 the cost of government consumes 63.41 percent of national income.

To read the report on your computer, and to view additional resources, including a chart room, media coverage, as well as last year's report click on the index below.

For a pdf of the full report, click here http://www.costofgovernmentday.com/

This is the latest COGD has fallen since the group began calculating it in 1977. It is eight days later than the 2009 COGD and a full 26 days later than in 2008. It’s also 51 days later than it was just 10 years ago.

While it’s tempting to blame President Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats for the explosion in government costs in the past two years, President George W. Bush and his party played a significant role, too. The two federal initiatives that have most increased costs since 2008 are the Troubled Asset Relief Program, signed into law by Bush with support from both parties in Congress, and the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (a.k.a. the “stimulus” law), for which Obama and fellow Democrats bear almost exclusive responsibility. In fact, if both these laws were repealed and remaining funds were not disbursed, COGD would fall 21 days earlier, on July 29. “That almost a month could be shed from COGD by repealing the remaining funds represents the unprecedented burden these spending policies have placed on taxpayers,” said the Center for Fiscal Accountability's (CFA's) report.

Discuss.......... keep it constructive when posting.

[FORD]

Get that Grover Norquist bullshit out of here before somebody drowns your troll ass in a bathtub.

[thome]

-The Front- Mods will boycott your threads and if you persist, simply delete them to the dump. They see op other than thier own as spam from trolls. Good luck finding any constructive comments.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?56578-What-should-be-done-about-unemployment&


The problem is not unemployment for a communist trying to slowly erode the constitution into a monster of, most people work to support the larger amount of people who are employed in whole, by the taxation of the first group.

[vanhalen1r2]

Get that Grover Norquist bullshit out of here before somebody drowns your troll ass in a bathtub.

Oh you BIG GOVERNMENT tool FORD, I cunt believe you are such a little sissy.

This report was authored by 2010 Thomas Jefferson Fellow Benjamin Pacini.

[FORD]

It's sponsored by a Norquist cult group and funded by tobacco companies, Jack Abramoff, the Scaife family, and a bunch of similar treasonous cowardly criminal fucks.

Do your homework, troll.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Americans_for_Tax_Reform

[vanhalen1r2]

-The Front- Mods will boycott your threads and if you persist, simply delete them to the dump. They see op other than thier own as spam from trolls. Good luck finding any constructive comments.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?56578-What-should-be-done-about-unemployment&

Unpopular speech is absolutely vital to the health of our nation and Roth forum.
Ladies and gentlemen of the Roth forum MOD jury, you have heard a lot today, and I'm not gonna go back over it, but you have to go into that room and make some decisions. But before you do, there's something you need to know. I am not trying to suggest that you should like what Van Halen1r2 does, but what I do like is the fact that I live in a country and post on a forum where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like the fact that I live in a country where I can post up on a forum and read it, or throw it in the recycle bin if that's where I think it belongs, for FORD to bitch about anyone giving him a plate of his own shit is laughable at best and truly sad if this forum where to succumb to fascist PC thought police because FORD and those of his ideology disagree with what I say.

[vanhalen1r2]

It's sponsored by a Norquist cult group and funded by tobacco companies, Jack Abramoff, the Scaife family, and a bunch of similar treasonous cowardly criminal fucks.

Do your homework, troll.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Americans_for_Tax_Reform

FORD you have all the answers, only your sources are credible is that what you like to think, well FORD that is your opinion not everyone shares it.

[Unchainme]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Dp20ydm1E&feature=channel

FORD, have you watched this yet?

[vanhalen1r2]

SourceWatch is not run very democratically:

It is effectively, a U.S. Democratic Party front, run by Sheldon Rampton and handpicked personal friends of his, such as "User:Maynard". These form a very autocratic sysop power structure with no accountability whatsoever. They simply do ad hominem delete and ad hominem revert by users they dislike, usually for knowing more about the subject than they do. It is not recommended to engage them in editorial discussion.

On some US-specific public policy issues, it often has good content wiki type information with good validation of sources. Put an article there not here to criticize someone or some company doing propaganda like greenwash, e.g. Gus Kouwenhoven. But expect it to be removed if it does not serve the current U. S. Democratic Party agenda, e.g. defeating Bush, denying that the Greens understand the issues and the solutions better, etc.

If you can clearly link the case to some anti-Bush position, it'll probably stick. But that doesn't mean much. Partisan wikis tend to be not trusted:

Sourcewatch is by no means accepting of either neutral point of view nor New Troll point of view. It is simply a vehicle of the individuals who run it, and its pretence to openness is simply to make attribution of sources for various of its pet positions, easier. This is one approach to wiki management but it's not ideal for anyone who wishes to actually challenge w:propaganda.

Censoring most of the articles on cognitive dissonance, information warfare, pro-technology propaganda, and muting technical issues with respect to the use of propaganda itself (which might cast MoveOn.org for instance in an unfavourable light), has given Disinfopedia/Sourcewatch a poor reputation for objectivity or for academic scholarship. There is however some good coverage of some specific debates in energy, Islam, nanotechnology and emergency response issues, most of which seems to have been written by anonymous trolls.

[FORD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Dp20ydm1E&feature=channel

FORD, have you watched this yet?

I haven't, and I probably don't want to. As it is, I have not watched ANY pro basketball since the Sonics died :(

Nor have I consumed any Starfucks coffee and I still got a gift card that's half full, so I wouldn't even really have to pay for it. I'm just so fucking disgusted by the part Howard Schultz played in all of this.

[vanhalen1r2]

I haven't, and I probably don't want to. As it is, I have not watched ANY pro basketball since the Sonics died :(

Nor have I consumed any Starfucks coffee and I still got a gift card that's half full, so I wouldn't even really have to pay for it. I'm just so fucking disgusted by the part Howard Schultz played in all of this.

Well why didn't you buy the damn team from that evil capitalist and keep it in Suicideattle ???

[Unchainme]

I haven't, and I probably don't want to. As it is, I have not watched ANY pro basketball since the Sonics died :(

Nor have I consumed any Starfucks coffee and I still got a gift card that's half full, so I wouldn't even really have to pay for it. I'm just so fucking disgusted by the part Howard Schultz played in all of this.

It's just really fucked up how sports franchises are set up. A team like the Sonics with the fan support it recieved should have never been used to hold the city of Seattle Hostage. I really wish it was set up how the Packers are in that the franchise is owned by the residents of the city themselves allowing them to have the profits go back to the community itself rather than some old rich jerk that could give a shit about the city.

[FORD]

I just wish Paul Allen didn't already own an NBA team in Portland. Otherwise, he probably would have bought them. (Like he did the Seahawks when some California Repuke scum tried to steal them.)

[Unchainme]

I just wish Paul Allen didn't already own an NBA team in Portland. Otherwise, he probably would have bought them. (Like he did the Seahawks when some California Repuke scum tried to steal them.)

I read that the one scum bag tried to move them to anaheim? so much so that he already had the gear set up in orange county middle school.

[vanhalen1r2]

I just wish Paul Allen didn't already own an NBA team in Portland. Otherwise, he probably would have bought them. (Like he did the Seahawks when some California Repuke scum tried to steal them.)

Seattle should have done more to save the team end of story, but somehow I think FORD will find a way to blame Karl Rove next.

[Nickdfresh]

Yes. Gov't costs a lot. Does anyone actually have the balls to really break down where all the spending goes?

[Unchainme]

Yes. Gov't costs a lot. Does anyone actually have the balls to really break down where all the spending goes?

The Military!

[vanhalen1r2]

Yes. Gov't costs a lot. Does anyone actually have the balls to really break down where all the spending goes?

It is broken down in the link. Does anyone actually have the balls to find it.

[Nickdfresh]

It is is it? Where's the fucking pie chart?

[vanhalen1r2]

It is is it? Where's the fucking pie chart?

Here Nick this might be hard for you to do, open the PDF file

http://www.fiscalaccountability.org/userfiles/COGD2010_2_final.pdf


Should it be done in bright crayola colors too...

[FORD]

Can you find it from a RELIABLE source? (i.e. not Norquist/Scaife/Koch funded)

[vanhalen1r2]

Can you find it from a RELIABLE source? (i.e. not Norquist/Scaife/Koch funded)

Should I trust that you have a better more reliable source FORD, well go ahead and pull one out your shyster list of shame.

[GAR]

Yes. Gov't costs a lot. Does anyone actually have the balls to really break down where all the spending goes?

Doesn't matter what the cost is, if CONGRESS is insistent on wasting session time on jack-off issues like a carbon-warming stock exchange, healthscare, saving bad banks and stupid stockbrokerages.

It's like we've lost an entire session of Congress due to all the feelgood Socialism issues, and not focusing on the economy and kicking the wetbacks the fuck outta Dodge... and keeping 'em out!

[Nickdfresh]

Here Nick this might be hard for you to do, open the PDF file

http://www.fiscalaccountability.org/userfiles/COGD2010_2_final.pdf


Should it be done in bright crayola colors too...

Well, thanks for the fucking link! You're not as incompetent as I thought! And I think you'd do a wonderful job with your Crayola crayons on your Ayn Rand coloring book!

[Nickdfresh]

Doesn't matter what the cost is, if CONGRESS is insistent on wasting session time on jack-off issues like a carbon-warming stock exchange, healthscare, saving bad banks and stupid stockbrokerages.

It's like we've lost an entire session of Congress due to all the feelgood Socialism issues, and not focusing on the economy and kicking the wetbacks the fuck outta Dodge... and keeping 'em out!

Joe Sixpack (read uneducated, unwashed douchebag) has spoken! Can I get an AMEN?!

[GAR]

I took a bath last Friday. You take a bath every OWNED.

[vanhalen1r2]

Well, thanks for the fucking link! You're not as incompetent as I thought! And I think you'd do a wonderful job with your Crayola crayons on your Ayn Rand coloring book!

Well your mighty welcome Nicky, seeing that you are a fan of Rand

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Achievement of your happiness is the only moral purpose of your life, and that happiness, not pain or mindless self-indulgence, is the proof of your moral integrity, since it is the proof and the result of your loyalty to the achievement of your values.
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Achieving life is not the equivalent of avoiding death.
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Ask yourself whether the dream of heaven and greatness should be waiting for us in our graves - or whether it should be ours here and now and on this earth.
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Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
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Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.
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Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.
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Every aspect of Western culture needs a new code of ethics - a rational ethics - as a precondition of rebirth.
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Every man builds his world in his own image. He has the power to choose, but no power to escape the necessity of choice.
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Evil requires the sanction of the victim.
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Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a gun begins.
Ayn Rand

Enjoy, P.S. I will see if I can get you a copy of Atlas Shrugged :)

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe you should actually read it first. :)

[vanhalen1r2]

Maybe you should actually read it first. :)

Well I appreciate that Nick, I think everyone should read.

[GAR]

Well I appreciate that Nick, I think everyone should read.

DOH

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