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ELVIS
09-08-2010, 10:35 AM
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Telegraph

Democrats (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100052779/even-americas-liberal-elites-concede-that-obamas-presidency-is-crumbling/) in Congress are no longer asking themselves whether this is going to be a bad election year for them and their party. They are asking whether it is going to be a disaster. The GOP pushed deep into Democratic-held territory over the summer, to the point where the party is well within range of picking up the 39 seats it would need to take control of the House. Overall, as many as 80 House seats could be at risk, and fewer than a dozen of these are held by Republicans.

Political handicappers now say it is conceivable that the Republicans could also win the 10 seats they need to take back the Senate. Not since 1930 has the House changed hands without the Senate following suit.

Is this a piece from National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal or Fox News.com, all major conservative news outlets in the United States? No. It’s a direct quote from yesterday’s Washington Post, usually viewed by conservatives as a flagship of the liberal establishment inside the Beltway. The fact The Post is reporting that not only could Republicans sweep the House of Representatives this November, but may even take the Senate as well, is a reflection of just how far the mainstream, overwhelmingly left-of-centre US media has moved in the last month towards acknowledging the scale of the crisis facing the White House.

To its credit, The Washington Post has generally been ahead of the curve compared to its main competitors such as The New York Times in reporting President Obama’s travails, but its striking front page coverage of the “Democrats’ plight” and talk of a possible GOP Senate win (regarded as fantasy just a fortnight ago) was a bold step for a publication that is probably read in every office of the Obama administration.

The Post also ran another headline yesterday on its front page – “Republicans making gains ahead of midterm elections” – which would undoubtedly have sent a shudder through the White House. It carried a new poll commissioned jointly with ABC News, which showed public faith in Barack Obama’s leadership has fallen to an all-time low, with just 46 percent approval. The Washington Post-ABC News survey revealed high levels of public unease with President Obama’s handling of the economy, with 57 percent of Americans disapproving, and 58 percent critical of his handling of the deficit.

For most of the year, America’s political and media elites, including the Obama team itself, have touted the notion of an economic recovery (which never materialised), significantly underestimated the rise of the Tea Party movement, and questioned the notion that conservatism was sweeping America. It is only now hitting home just how close Washington is to experiencing a political revolution in November that will fundamentally change the political landscape on Capitol Hill, with huge implications for the Obama presidency.

What was once a perspective confined largely to Fox News, online conservative news sites, or talk radio is now gaining ground in the liberal US print media as well – historic change is coming to America, though not quite the version promised by Barack Obama.


:elvis:

Va Beach VH Fan
09-08-2010, 01:18 PM
ANYONE's presidency, of EITHER PARTY, would be crumbling after that piece of shit's eight years.....

ELVIS
09-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Did you hear that on The West Wing ??

Va Beach VH Fan
09-08-2010, 03:00 PM
Sadly, I don't think even Jed Bartlet could pull us out of this mess....

I know for a fact Glen Walken or Arnie Vinick sure as hell couldn't.....

LoungeMachine
09-08-2010, 03:09 PM
Sadly, I don't think even Jed Bartlet could pull us out of this mess....

I know for a fact Glen Walken or Arnie Vinick sure as hell couldn't.....

Matt Santos looked like a one-term prez to me.....

:gulp:

Jagermeister
09-08-2010, 03:14 PM
ANYONE's presidency, of EITHER PARTY, would be crumbling after that piece of shit's eight years.....

Are you talking about Bush?

Come on we have a new President now. He wanted the job. He asked for it and he got it. It's been his for 2 years now. When are people going to stop blaming Bush for the current issues impacting this country?

Warham
09-08-2010, 07:06 PM
ANYONE's presidency, of EITHER PARTY, would be crumbling after that piece of shit's eight years.....

I know the Gipper had a tough time of it the first couple of years, but his presidency didn't crumble because of the inept Peanut Farmer's four years.

Obama cannot blame his crumbling poll numbers on George W. Bush any longer.

kwame k
09-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Nah, just the economic turmoil that Bush left him with or the two wars:)

sadaist
09-08-2010, 07:32 PM
...after that piece of shit's eight years.....

It's hasn't even been 2 years yet. Where you get 8, I don't know. Wishful thinking?

:hee:

sadaist
09-08-2010, 07:39 PM
It's been his for 2 years now.

And his party has had FULL control. Yet they blame Republicans as the party of no. It shouldn't matter whether every Repub says no to every fucking thing they do. FULL control means they can do anything they want. They have only themselves to blame for the total clusterfuck of not getting anything done.

They had their chance controlling everything and failed miserably.

kwame k
09-08-2010, 07:41 PM
They sure fucking did!

Nickdfresh
09-08-2010, 08:04 PM
And his party has had FULL control. Yet they blame Republicans as the party of no. It shouldn't matter whether every Repub says no to every fucking thing they do. FULL control means they can do anything they want. They have only themselves to blame for the total clusterfuck of not getting anything done.

They had their chance controlling everything and failed miserably.

You mean like the GOP did for at least six full years, and still managed to fuck everything up?

Nickdfresh
09-08-2010, 08:05 PM
I know the Gipper had a tough time of it the first couple of years, but his presidency didn't crumble because of the inept Peanut Farmer's four years.

Obama cannot blame his crumbling poll numbers on George W. Bush any longer.

Right! Just like the Democrats did well in the Congress during his tenure as well...

Dr. Love
09-08-2010, 09:44 PM
Democrats have only themselves to blame ... the republicans won't win this, the democrats will lose it. And it's their own damn faults for being such pussies about their agenda the whole time.

Grow some fuckin' balls.

Va Beach VH Fan
09-08-2010, 10:11 PM
And his party has had FULL control. Yet they blame Republicans as the party of no. It shouldn't matter whether every Repub says no to every fucking thing they do. FULL control means they can do anything they want. They have only themselves to blame for the total clusterfuck of not getting anything done.

They had their chance controlling everything and failed miserably.

I'm pretty sure you know that's not close to a true statement....

With the current filibuster rules, Republicans (in this case) don't have to stand up on the floor of Congress and read David Copperfield.... All they have to do is threaten to filibuster, and that's all it takes....

So in many cases, it's not that that Republicans have actually voted no, it's that they indicate they're going to vote no, and threaten to filibuster.....

In essence, it's required that every bill wanting to get through the Senate requires not a majority vote of 51, but a filibuster-proof of 60 votes....

Va Beach VH Fan
09-08-2010, 10:19 PM
Are you talking about Bush?

Come on we have a new President now. He wanted the job. He asked for it and he got it. It's been his for 2 years now. When are people going to stop blaming Bush for the current issues impacting this country?

Absolutely, it's been happening on his watch, he's overall responsible.

But you do remember that the first "bailout" was done by Bush, and not Obama ??

You also remember that nearly 1,000,000 jobs were lost even before Obama took office ??

How can you NOT blame Bush, at least with a hearty percentage ??

hambon4lif
09-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Alot of people around this way are still talking about Obamas Laborfest speech. He hit Milwaukee last weekend and burned down the fucking barn!!
There are parts of that speech where he got so worked up I thought he was going to snap, call everyone "candy-asses" and challenge Stone Cold Steve Austin to a match in the cage!

I don't know if anyone else notices this, but there's a MAJOR difference between "Campaign Obama" and "President Obama". I saw him get riled up and thought to myself "where the fuck has THIS guy been for the last 20 months??!?" I believe that's the Obama that the people elected, not the one who kicked back and let Congress run the show. (and they ran it, too....right into the fucking ground).

It's too little too late, and it shouldn't take something like the mid-terms in order to start giving a shit.

BigBadBrian
09-09-2010, 05:36 AM
Absolutely, it's been happening on his watch, he's overall responsible.

But you do remember that the first "bailout" was done by Bush, and not Obama ??

You also remember that nearly 1,000,000 jobs were lost even before Obama took office ??

How can you NOT blame Bush, at least with a hearty percentage ??

There is plenty of blame to go around, that's for sure. Those of us that voted for Bush didn't agree with everything he did, just like I'm sure you don't like everything Obama does.

However, Obama wanted the job and now it's his. He hasn't helped the unemployment one bit, has tripled the deficit from Bush's entire 8 years, has passed legislation that's been wildly unpopular with the American people and just might not be funded in the future, and whose stimulus has been a bust. His party is going to pay for that dearly on NOV 2.

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Nickdfresh
09-09-2010, 08:04 AM
...has tripled the deficit from Bush's entire 8 years, has passed legislation that's been wildly unpopular with the American people and just might not be funded in the future, and whose stimulus has been a bust...

A lie oft repeated...

BigBadBrian
09-09-2010, 10:23 AM
A lie oft repeated...

Nope, it's not a lie. Truth hurts, huh? :tongue0011:

FORD
09-09-2010, 12:05 PM
I think Harry Reid could win re-election by a landslide if he just said one thing:

"If re-elected, I promise NOT to run for Senate Majority Leader again".

Sharon Angle is a crazy teabagging freeper wackjob, and for that reason, I hope Reid continues to be Nevada's senator.

But the Senate needs a Majority Leader who knows what the words "majority" and "leader" mean. Spineless Harry never got it. Neither did Daschle. A real Majority Leader would have told Repukes to sit down and shut up, and would have told turncoats like Lieberdouche, Ben Nelson, and Max Baucus to either act like Democrats or get the fuck out.

jhale667
09-09-2010, 03:29 PM
I think Harry Reid could win re-election by a landslide if he just said one thing:

"If re-elected, I promise NOT to run for Senate Majority Leader again".

Sharon Angle is a crazy teabagging freeper wackjob, and for that reason, I hope Reid continues to be Nevada's senator.

But the Senate needs a Majority Leader who knows what the words "majority" and "leader" mean. Spineless Harry never got it. Neither did Daschle. A real Majority Leader would have told Repukes to sit down and shut up, and would have told turncoats like Lieberdouche, Ben Nelson, and Max Baucus to either act like Democrats or get the fuck out.


Sharon Angle is despicable. Blathering about conservatives "looking to second amendment rights" and who "needs to be taken out"...she should eat a gun herself.

FORD
09-09-2010, 03:39 PM
I just can't believe anybody would run for office in Nevada and claim that Prohibition (of alcohol) was a good thing, and should be brought back.

I can't see her getting a single vote in Las Vegas or Reno based on that alone. Casinos need alcohol to keep people gambling.

Not to mention all the people who drive to Nevada and buy booze by the case because there's no tax on it there like there is in most other states.

Jagermeister
09-09-2010, 03:45 PM
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
Wednesday, September 08, 2010
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief




President Barack Obama speaks in Seattle on Tuesday, August 17, 2010. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)(CNSNews.com) - In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.
The U.S. Treasury Department divides the federal debt into two categories. One is “debt held by the public,” which includes U.S. government securities owned by individuals, corporations, state or local governments, foreign governments and other entities outside the federal government itself. The other is “intragovernmental” debt, which includes I.O.U.s the federal government gives to itself when, for example, the Treasury borrows money out of the Social Security “trust fund” to pay for expenses other than Social Security.

At the end of fiscal year 1989, which ended eight months after President Reagan left office, the total federal debt held by the public was $2.1907 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That means all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan had accumulated only that much publicly held debt on behalf of American taxpayers. That is $335.3 billion less than the $2.5260 trillion that was added to the federal debt held by the public just between Jan. 20, 2009, when President Obama was inaugurated, and Aug. 20, 2010, the 19-month anniversary of Obama's inauguration.

By contrast, President Reagan was sworn into office on Jan. 20, 1981 and left office eight years later on Jan. 20, 1989. At the end of fiscal 1980, four months before Reagan was inaugurated, the federal debt held by the public was $711.9 billion, according to CBO. At the end of fiscal 1989, eight months after Reagan left office, the federal debt held by the public was $2.1907 trillion. That means that in the nine-fiscal-year period of 1980-89--which included all of Reagan’s eight years in office--the federal debt held by the public increased $1.4788 trillion. That is in excess of a trillion dollars less than the $2.5260 increase in the debt held by the public during Obama’s first 19 months.

When President Barack Obama took the oath of office on Jan. 20, 2009, the total federal debt held by the public stood at 6.3073 trillion, according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department. As of Aug. 20, 2010, after the first nineteen months of President Obama’s 48-month term, the total federal debt held by the public had grown to a total of $8.8333 trillion, an increase of $2.5260 trillion.

In just the last four months (May through August), according to the CBO, the Obama administration has run cumulative deficits of $464 billion, more than the $458 billion deficit the Bush administration ran through the entirety of fiscal 2008.

The CBO predicted this week that the annual budget deficit for fiscal 2010, which ends on the last day of this month, will exceed $1.3 trillion.

The first two fiscal years in which Obama has served will see the two biggest federal deficits as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product since the end of World War II.

“CBO currently estimates that the deficit for 2010 will be about $70 billion below last year’s total but will still exceed $1.3 trillion,” said the CBO’s monthly budget review for September, which was released yesterday. “Relative to the size of the economy, this year’s deficit is expected to be the second-largest shortfall in the past 65 years: At 9.1 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), that deficit will be exceeded only by last year’s deficit of 9.9 percent of GDP

FORD
09-09-2010, 04:06 PM
If you knew anything about CNS "News" (founded by Pat Robertson and his puppet Brent Bozo) or ever heard Terry Jeffrey speak (he sounds like a Munchkin from the Wizard of Oz) you would know better than to take anything they say seriously. :lmao:

Dr. Love
09-09-2010, 09:48 PM
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
Wednesday, September 08, 2010
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief




President Barack Obama speaks in Seattle on Tuesday, August 17, 2010. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)(CNSNews.com) - In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is more than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.
The U.S. Treasury Department divides the federal debt into two categories. One is “debt held by the public,” which includes U.S. government securities owned by individuals, corporations, state or local governments, foreign governments and other entities outside the federal government itself. The other is “intragovernmental” debt, which includes I.O.U.s the federal government gives to itself when, for example, the Treasury borrows money out of the Social Security “trust fund” to pay for expenses other than Social Security.

At the end of fiscal year 1989, which ended eight months after President Reagan left office, the total federal debt held by the public was $2.1907 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That means all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan had accumulated only that much publicly held debt on behalf of American taxpayers. That is $335.3 billion less than the $2.5260 trillion that was added to the federal debt held by the public just between Jan. 20, 2009, when President Obama was inaugurated, and Aug. 20, 2010, the 19-month anniversary of Obama's inauguration.

By contrast, President Reagan was sworn into office on Jan. 20, 1981 and left office eight years later on Jan. 20, 1989. At the end of fiscal 1980, four months before Reagan was inaugurated, the federal debt held by the public was $711.9 billion, according to CBO. At the end of fiscal 1989, eight months after Reagan left office, the federal debt held by the public was $2.1907 trillion. That means that in the nine-fiscal-year period of 1980-89--which included all of Reagan’s eight years in office--the federal debt held by the public increased $1.4788 trillion. That is in excess of a trillion dollars less than the $2.5260 increase in the debt held by the public during Obama’s first 19 months.

When President Barack Obama took the oath of office on Jan. 20, 2009, the total federal debt held by the public stood at 6.3073 trillion, according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department. As of Aug. 20, 2010, after the first nineteen months of President Obama’s 48-month term, the total federal debt held by the public had grown to a total of $8.8333 trillion, an increase of $2.5260 trillion.

In just the last four months (May through August), according to the CBO, the Obama administration has run cumulative deficits of $464 billion, more than the $458 billion deficit the Bush administration ran through the entirety of fiscal 2008.

The CBO predicted this week that the annual budget deficit for fiscal 2010, which ends on the last day of this month, will exceed $1.3 trillion.

The first two fiscal years in which Obama has served will see the two biggest federal deficits as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product since the end of World War II.

“CBO currently estimates that the deficit for 2010 will be about $70 billion below last year’s total but will still exceed $1.3 trillion,” said the CBO’s monthly budget review for September, which was released yesterday. “Relative to the size of the economy, this year’s deficit is expected to be the second-largest shortfall in the past 65 years: At 9.1 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), that deficit will be exceeded only by last year’s deficit of 9.9 percent of GDP

Man, black people are HORRIBLE with money, amirite

ELVIS
09-10-2010, 05:27 AM
Prolly spent it on rims...

fryingdutchman
09-10-2010, 11:03 AM
The writing was on the wall when FORD changed his avatar to Howard Dean.

Mushroom
09-10-2010, 11:38 AM
Nice, blame it on the other guy. I wish I could use that excuse on my job.

ELVIS
09-10-2010, 12:23 PM
You can...

Obama said so...

Seshmeister
09-10-2010, 12:49 PM
If you are the opposite of liberal elite, what does that make you?

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 01:03 PM
If you are the opposite of liberal elite, what does that make you?

A conservative also-ran? http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-023.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)

ELVIS
09-10-2010, 01:11 PM
If you are the opposite of liberal elite, what does that make you?

Sean Hannity ??

FORD
09-10-2010, 01:13 PM
Sean Hannity ??

A guy who is paid millions to lie and scream hysterically on FAUX Noize is the opposite of "elite"?

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 01:15 PM
Sean Hannity ??

The voice of reason??

FORD
09-10-2010, 01:18 PM
The voice of treason??

I corrected your typo for you.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 01:22 PM
Yeah I know. He is a real thorn in the ass of ALL LIBERAL's.

Gotta love that. I know I do.

FORD
09-10-2010, 01:30 PM
Come on, the guy's a fucking idiot. Not the biggest idiot on FAUX (that would be Brian Kilmeade, by a landslide) but Insannity probably comes in a close third, just behind BecKKK.

Where's the right wing equivalent of Thom Hartmann or Rachel Maddow? There isn't one. Because you can't BE intelligent, and defend the neocon shitbag teabagger viewpoint. It's mutually exclusive.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 01:33 PM
Come on, the guy's a fucking idiot. Not the biggest idiot on FAUX (that would be Brian Kilmeade, by a landslide) but Insannity probably comes in a close third, just behind BecKKK.

Where's the right wing equivalent of Thom Hartmann? There isn't one. Because you can't BE intelligent, and defend the neocon shitbag teabagger viewpoint. It's mutually exclusive.


:lmao:


See what I mean.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 01:41 PM
Idiot huh? :rolleyes:


Awards and honors
•Hannity received a Marconi Award in 2003 and 2007 as the Network Syndicated Personality of the Year from the National Association of Broadcasters
National Association of Broadcasters
The National Association of Broadcasters is a trade association representing the interests of for-profit, over-the-air radio and television broadcasters in the United States...
.
•In 2009, Talkers MagazineTalkers magazineTalkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is "The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media"...
listed Hannity as #2 on their list of the 100 most important radio talk show hosts in America. The same magazine gave Hannity their Freedom of Speech Award in 2003.
•In 2005, Jerry Falwell, chancellor of Liberty UniversityLiberty UniversityLiberty University is a private Christian university located in Lynchburg, Virginia. Between residential and online students, Liberty has an enrollment of over 60,000 students and offers more than 60 different academic programs...
, awarded Hannity an honorary degree.
•Radio and Records magazine has honored Hannity with the National Talk Show Host of the Year Award for three consecutive years.

vanhalen1r2
09-10-2010, 01:48 PM
The writing was on the wall when FORD changed his avatar to Howard Dean.

Funny and true :biggrin:

PETE'S BROTHER
09-10-2010, 01:50 PM
•In 2005, Jerry Falwell, chancellor of Liberty UniversityLiberty UniversityLiberty University is a private Christian university located in Lynchburg, Virginia. Between residential and online students, Liberty has an enrollment of over 60,000 students and offers more than 60 different academic programs...
, awarded Hannity an honorary degree.
:biggrin:

Seshmeister
09-10-2010, 02:11 PM
Idiot huh? :rolleyes:


Awards and honors
•Hannity received a Marconi Award in 2003 and 2007 as the Network Syndicated Personality of the Year from the National Association of Broadcasters
National Association of Broadcasters
The National Association of Broadcasters is a trade association representing the interests of for-profit, over-the-air radio and television broadcasters in the United States...
.
•In 2009, Talkers MagazineTalkers magazineTalkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is "The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media"...
listed Hannity as #2 on their list of the 100 most important radio talk show hosts in America. The same magazine gave Hannity their Freedom of Speech Award in 2003.
•In 2005, Jerry Falwell, chancellor of Liberty UniversityLiberty UniversityLiberty University is a private Christian university located in Lynchburg, Virginia. Between residential and online students, Liberty has an enrollment of over 60,000 students and offers more than 60 different academic programs...
, awarded Hannity an honorary degree.
•Radio and Records magazine has honored Hannity with the National Talk Show Host of the Year Award for three consecutive years.

:lmao:

FORD
09-10-2010, 02:14 PM
Yeah, nothing says "intelligence" like an honorary degree from fucking Jerry Falwell University. :biggrin:

ELVIS
09-10-2010, 02:22 PM
Hannity IS an idiot...

hambon4lif
09-10-2010, 02:27 PM
•In 2009, Talkers MagazineTalkers magazineTalkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is "The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media"...
That's a redundant silly redundant silly redundant silly name for a magazine.

And what the fuck are they implying with that slogan? That they're the gospel?

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 02:38 PM
And what the fuck are they implying with that slogan? That they're the gospel?

Nah, they are simply stating that the writing and details provided by their editorial staff are at times contradictory, are difficult to follow, lack any sense of coherence or subjectivity and are best not taken literally, particularly with regard to accuracy of geography, time lines or reported miracles.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 02:39 PM
Yeah, nothing says "intelligence" like an honorary degree from fucking Jerry Falwell University. :biggrin:

Apparently that is enough to get 3 books on the New York times best selling list.

Hannity is the author of three books. The first two, Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism and Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism, were published through ReganBooksReganBooksReganBooks was an American bestselling imprint or division of HarperCollins book publishing house , headed by editor and publisher Judith Regan, started in 1994 and ended in late 2006. During its existence, Regan was called, by LA Weekly, "the world's most successful publisher". The division...
. Both of these books reached the nonfiction New York Times bestseller list, the second of which stayed there for five weeks. Hannity has stated that he is too busy to write many books, and dictated a lot of his own two books into a tape recorder while driving in to do his radio show.

Hannity wrote his third book, Conservative Victory: Defeating Obama’s Radical AgendaConservative Victory: Defeating Obama’s Radical AgendaConservative Victory: Defeating Obama’s Radical Agenda is a 2010 book by conservative political commentator and media personality Sean Hannity...
, which was released by HarperCollinsHarperCollinsHarperCollins is a publishing company owned by News Corporation. It is the combination of the publishers William Collins, Sons and Co Ltd, a British company, and Harper & Row, an American company, itself the result of an earlier merger of Harper & Brothers and Row, Peterson & Company. The worldwide...
on March 30, 2010. The book became Hannity's third New York Times Bestseller.

FORD
09-10-2010, 02:45 PM
HarperCollins is a publishing company owned by News Corporation.

So a FAUX Noise moron has books ghost written for him, which are then published by another Murdoch corporation.

How does that make the dumbass intelligent?

And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves?? And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves?? And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves??

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 02:45 PM
Hannity IS an idiot...

I'm tired of these people who tow the party line. Alan Colms was an equal idiot on the liberal side. We aren't going to fix shit unless we get decent people on both sides of the isle working to save our freedoms and yes there are Democrats who believe in that and aren't happy with where their party has gone. It's pretty obvious the big money and power brokers have bought off both parties and the only time the asshole politicians care about the people is election time then they go back to the lobbiest fuck fest orgy called Washington DC.

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 02:49 PM
Apparently that is enough to get 3 books on the New York times best selling list.


Ultimately, that is a fairly dubious accomplishment. After all, L. Ron Hubbard and Robert Ludlam have managed to nail the best seller list on multiple occasions well into the 2000s, despite what would seem to be the relatively significant inconvenience of both men having dropped stone cold dead several years beforehand.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 02:49 PM
So a FAUX Noise moron has books ghost written for him, which are then published by another Murdoch corporation.

How does that make the dumbass intelligent?

And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves?? And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves?? And why the Hell do all your posts repeat themselves??


Fuck you FORD. How many goddamn books do you have published?

Why do all you posts sound like the ramblings of a liberal fuck tard?


Because you are one that's why.

Eat a dick fucker!

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 02:51 PM
Ultimately, that is a fairly dubious accomplishment. After all, L. Ron Hubbard and Robert Ludlam have managed to nail the best seller list on multiple occasions well into the 2000s, despite what would seem to be the relatively significant inconvenience of both men having dropping stone cold dead several years beforehand.

Well FORD should have no problems getting his book on that list. :lmao:

"How To Make Liberals Look Like Assholes"

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 02:51 PM
He's probably Murdoch's nephew or something. I wonder how many of those cute FOX reporters and anchors Murdoch has fucked?

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 02:54 PM
If I went to FOX I would kill all the men and ravage the women. The libs have no cute women. MSNBC isn't worth attacking and pillaging for Rachel Maddow.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 02:54 PM
Looks like FORD touched a nerve... :lmao:

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 02:56 PM
Here is how fucking stupid FORD is. This so called idiot's radio show is nationally syndicated and has over 13 million listeners a week. My guess is FORD is pissed because this idiot has a 25 million dollar 5 year contract.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:02 PM
Looks like FORD touched a nerve... :lmao:

You want some to ass bag?

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 03:05 PM
...This so called idiot's radio show is nationally syndicated and has over 13 million listeners a week.

Still, popularity is not a guaranteed arbiter of quality, nor can it be seen as an endorsement of intelligence. Remember, we are talking about the American public here, the very same people that snapped up Pet Rocks, Wacky Wall Walkers, The Pocket Fisherman, the Big Mouth Billy Bass singing fish, those weird orange towel things and thought that the Pinto, the AMC Pacer and most of the eighties (along with electing several dubious presidents along the way) were really great ideas.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:08 PM
Still, popularity is not a guaranteed arbiter of quality, nor can it be seen as an endorsement of intelligence. Remember, we are talking about the American public here, the very same people that snapped up Pet Rocks, Wacky Wall Walkers, The Pocket Fisherman, the Big Mouth Billy Bass singing fish, those weird orange towel things and thought that the Pinto, the AMC Pacer and most of the eighties (along with electing several dubious presidents along the way) were really great ideas.

Like Sammy Hagar?

Seshmeister
09-10-2010, 03:08 PM
Your earlier post said that Jerry Falwell's 'University' had 60 000 students.

Ted Haggard had one of the largest congregations in the country and even after being caught fucking male prostitutes and taking drugs he has a new congregation growing by the day.

Van Hagar sold 18 million albums.

No one has ever denied that there are a lot of really fucking stupid people out there.

Being the king of the fuckwits doesn't make you intelligent.

hambon4lif
09-10-2010, 03:10 PM
I wonder how many of those cute FOX reporters and anchors Murdoch has fucked?LOL!

While we're on that subject, I need to ask....What the fuck is with the deal with Megyn "don't make me cut your mic" Kelly? What's her story? Does she masturbate with a cactus? Does she douche with battery acid? She's meaner than a dog shitting glass!

What kind of a host invites guests onto their show, only to attack them with seething rage and scream over them? And in what world is that considered journalism?

I've never seen such a candidate for a raw hate-fuck in my life!

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Still, popularity is not a guaranteed arbiter of quality, nor can it be seen as an endorsement of intelligence. Remember, we are talking about the American public here, the very same people that snapped up Pet Rocks, Wacky Wall Walkers, The Pocket Fisherman, the Big Mouth Billy Bass singing fish, those weird orange towel things and thought that the Pinto, the AMC Pacer and most of the eighties (along with electing several dubious presidents along the way) were really great ideas.

Bing! The stupid deserve stupid politicians. The average American today has less than $10,000 in savings and is wallowed in debt. Many will be broke their whole lives gaining no equity in anything. Then 70% of the working public work for the local, state, or Federal government and the ones who don't work need the government for their welfare checks.

As long as Bubba has his welfare cheese, beer, and football, you can fuck him up the ass. The Romans called it bread and circuses. You steal the public blind and toss back some free entertainment and some cheap food to passify the masses. Things haven't changed in 2000 years.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:12 PM
You want some to ass bag?

"Some to" what? Did you mean "too" as in "also", Mensa? You sure you wanna go there?

How 'bout you re-take 2nd grade, asshat? :lol:

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Still, popularity is not a guaranteed arbiter of quality, nor can it be seen as an endorsement of intelligence. Remember, we are talking about the American public here, the very same people that snapped up Pet Rocks, Wacky Wall Walkers, The Pocket Fisherman, the Big Mouth Billy Bass singing fish, those weird orange towel things and thought that the Pinto, the AMC Pacer and most of the eighties (along with electing several dubious presidents along the way) were really great ideas.

I don't give fuck who you are numbers like that don't lie.Anyone who runs a bussiness would know you don't pay out that kind of cash to an "idiot".

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Like Sammy Hagar?

Think about it: Each new VH album with him involved sold less than the one that preceded it. So this could be seen as one example of the American public actually coming to their senses, or more likely, a vivid indication of the law of diminishing returns in action.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:14 PM
"Some to" what? Did you mean "too" as in "also", Mensa? You sure you wanna go there?

How 'bout you re-take 2nd grade, asshat? :lol:

How about you coming up with some new material.

Dick Sucker. Bring it on!

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:14 PM
Your earlier post said that Jerry Falwell's 'University' had 60 000 students.

Ted Haggard had one of the largest congregations in the country and even after being caught fucking male prostitutes and taking drugs he has a new congregation growing by the day.

Van Hagar sold 18 million albums.

No one has ever denied that there are a lot of really fucking stupid people out there.

Being the king of the fuckwits doesn't make you intelligent.


BINGO.


Mush Limpdick's audience is in the millions too... stupid people need to stop breeding.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:14 PM
LOL!

While we're on that subject, I need to ask....What the fuck is with the deal with Megyn "don't make me cut your mic" Kelly? What's her story? Does she masturbate with a cactus? Does she douche with battery acid? She's meaner than a dog shitting glass!

What kind of a host invites guests onto their show, only to attack them with seething rage and scream over them? And in what world is that considered journalism?

I've never seen such a candidate for a raw hate-fuck in my life!

I want to go balls deep in her, call her by the wrong name and hang on for the wild ride.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:15 PM
How about you coming up with some new material.

Dick Sucker.

You first, brain-trust. :baaa:

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 03:16 PM
I don't give fuck who you are numbers like that don't lie.Anyone who runs a bussiness would know you don't pay out that kind of cash to an "idiot".

That's just it man, my entire post proves that people are more than willing to not only make moronically insipid decisions, they are also (astoundingly enough) willing to pay hard earned cash for them.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:18 PM
Think about it: Each new VH album with him involved sold less than the one that preceded it. So this could be seen as one example of the American public actually coming to their senses, or more likely, a vivid indication of the law of diminishing returns in action.

Or some people like jhale are just slow to realize their ignorance.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:19 PM
That's just it man, my entire post proves that people are more than willing to not only make moronically insipid decisions, they are also (astoundingly enough) willing to pay hard earned cash for them.

Give it a few minutes, or repeat it to him a few times, it might sink in... :hee:

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:19 PM
You first, brain-trust. :baaa:

See post above smart ass. :baaa:

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Or some people like jhale are just slow to realize their ignorance.

THIS from the inbred racist fuckwit who can't spell or construct a sentence - you're going to start pontificating (look it up) about someone's ELSE'S supposed "ignorance"? LMAO! :lol:


There you go proving once again you can't fix stupid, even with duct tape. :lmao:

FORD
09-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Here is how fucking stupid FORD is. This so called idiot's radio show is nationally syndicated and has over 13 million listeners a week. My guess is FORD is pissed because this idiot has a 25 million dollar 5 year contract.

The only person who would defend Sean Insannity this passionately would be Insannity himself. Or someone who really loves him.

Guess that explains the Pink Panther avatar. You go girl! :anal::homoswitch:http://www.oldelmtree.com/Smileys/set1/grandoldflag.gif

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:26 PM
The only person who would defend Sean Insannity this passionately would be Insannity himself. Or someone who really loves him.

Guess that explains the Pink Panther avatar. You go girl! :anal::homoswitch:http://www.oldelmtree.com/Smileys/set1/grandoldflag.gif

Man don't bring the Pink Panther into this. He's cool.

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 03:27 PM
Guess that explains the Pink Panther avatar. You go girl!

Awww, come on...the Panther is cool. I will admit it did bug me when it was used to sell Owens-Corning Fiberglass Insulation a few years ago. Christ, I hate that stuff. :duh:

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 03:27 PM
THIS from the inbred racist fuckwit who can't spell or construct a sentence - you're going to start pontificating (look it up) about someone's ELSE'S supposed "ignorance"? LMAO! :lol:


There you go proving once again you can't fix stupid, even with duct tape. :lmao:


You sure seam to be an expert at calling people ignorant. That really doesn't bother me any jhale. Kinda like the term cracker doesn't bother me.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:28 PM
The only person who would defend Sean Insannity this passionately would be Insannity himself. Or someone who really loves him.

Guess that explains the Pink Panther avatar. You go girl! :anal::homoswitch:http://www.oldelmtree.com/Smileys/set1/grandoldflag.gif

Nah, Insannity understands sentence construction...or maybe just can read one off a teleprompter...? :biggrin:

You know how Jag said he "learns from me more than he wants to" the other day? Today he's learning from us never to show up to a gunfight with a (dull) knife... :lol:

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:29 PM
Some days I feel like just removing myself from society. It has become stupid and disfunctional. The greed is so entrenched in everything there is no long-term sustainability and it's only a matter of time before law and order snaps and people start to kill each other over basic resources. Then I will come down from the mountain and fuck all the cute women who have survived.

jhale667
09-10-2010, 03:29 PM
You sure seam to be an expert at calling people ignorant. That really doesn't bother me any jhale. Kinda like the term cracker doesn't bother me.

Some people are proud to be called "redneck" too - they're called IDIOTS. Congratulations! :baaa:

FORD
09-10-2010, 03:33 PM
Awww, come on...the Panther is cool. I will admit it did bug me when it was used to sell Owens-Corning Fiberglass Insulation a few years ago. Christ, I hate that stuff. :duh:

Well it was either that or Pepto Bismol. When you're pink, there's only so many products you can endorse.

hambon4lif
09-10-2010, 03:34 PM
Some days I feel like just removing myself from society. It has become stupid and disfunctional. That's how I feel just reading this thread!

PETE'S BROTHER
09-10-2010, 03:35 PM
Well it was either that or Pepto Bismol. When you're pink, there's only so many products you can endorse.

SPAM:barf:

chefcraig
09-10-2010, 03:39 PM
Well it was either that or Pepto Bismol. When you're pink, there's only so many products you can endorse.

Salmon. It's the other pink meat!

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:50 PM
That's how I feel just reading this thread!

Now we have an excuse to get drunk to escape something.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Salmon. It's the other pink meat!

I know something that's pink and smells of fish.

Seshmeister
09-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Some days I feel like just removing myself from society. It has become stupid and disfunctional.

I think it always was it's just that you have to be around for a while before you notice just how fucked up and stupid it all is.

It only really dawns on you once it's your generation running shit, up until that point you kind of assume there is some great knowledge coming.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:53 PM
Hot tuna pie.

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Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 03:56 PM
I think it always was it's just that you have to be around for a while before you notice just how fucked up and stupid it all is.

It only really dawns on you once it's your generation running shit, up until that point you kind of assume there is some great knowledge coming.

I say we let all the nutcase christians, jews, and muslims go at it, stay out of it and charge admission to the show.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:01 PM
I wonder how many children that minister who wants to burn the Koran has molested?

Kristy
09-10-2010, 04:01 PM
Sadly, I don't think even Jed Bartlet could pull us out of this mess.

His speech this morning was of no help. Too many "ums...", "wells...", "I...I's..." to feel much confident in his rhetoric anymore. When people are out of a job, losing their homes, dreams and livelihood and Obama seems to be like drug that masks the symptoms (and causes) of the root of a particular problem. All the "HOPE" seem to have faded and what I took from his answers to such point blank questions was that he is truly clueless. Sorry, but the dude just is clueless.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:12 PM
His speech this morning was of no help. Too many "ums...", "wells...", "I...I's..." to feel much confident in his rhetoric anymore. When people are out of a job, losing their homes, dreams and livelihood and Obama seems to be like drug that masks the symptoms (and causes) of the root of a particular problem. All the "HOPE" seem to have faded and what I took from his answers to such point blank questions was that he is truly clueless. Sorry, but the dude just is clueless.

The economy was well on it's way to ruin before Barrack Obama was even a known name but he has been an absolute disaster. You don't spend trillions of dollars we don't have to bail banks and corporations who helped cause the whole mess to begin with. The healthcare law and how the passed is was a total spit in the face to the American public. Obama must not be that smart or he is just a plain lousy human being. How these assholes sleep at night is beyond me. Oh well, it must be nice to have the public provide aircraft and luxery vacations. We are in the wrong racket.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:17 PM
The US economy started to go to shit when Nixon took us off the gold standard to pay for the Vietnam war. Vietnam is what broke the back of the country and then you had the inflation and oil crises of the 1970's. Then the outsourcing began in the 1980's and then you saw the trend of CEO's making more than ever and getting huge amounts of money when they got fired. We would have imploded sooner but the PC revolution brought a lot of money into the US. The hardware and software was US produced then and the world bought it from us. Now that has been outsourced. Right now the biggest export of the US is bailed cardboard.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:18 PM
The roaring 90's was the simple product of derivative speculation. It was pure bullshit.

Jagermeister
09-10-2010, 04:30 PM
Nah, Insannity understands sentence construction...or maybe just can read one off a teleprompter...? :biggrin:

You know how Jag said he "
learns from me more than he wants to" the other day? Today he's learning from us never to show up to a gunfight with a (dull) knife... :lol:

Fuck. Talk about problems with reading comprehension. That is not what I said freak job.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:56 PM
The Republicans blew it under Bush and the Democrats showed us all their greed and lack of concern for the American people. That being said, who is going to sail us through decades of mismanagement and massive spending to save the day? I don't trust either camp.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Both sides of the aisle are full of shit. Elephant shit and donkey shit.

Nickdfresh
09-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Nope, it's not a lie. Truth hurts, huh? :tongue0011:

Okay, please provide us with all the statistical analysis, dummy...

Nickdfresh
09-10-2010, 09:13 PM
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404

Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data
Wednesday, September 08, 2010
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
...


Yeah, fake analysis and stories for dummies that never, ever questions where the bullshit comes from

September 8, 2010
Attention Nominal Comparisons of Obama National Debt Figures: Get Real

by Gerald Prante

Today, the conservative blogosphere (with the help of Drudge) is busy citing a story put out by CNSNews' Terence Jeffrey, whose headline reads: "Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov't Data."

Unfortunately, this type of simplistic analysis suffers from two major problems:

(1) The implication that the entire increase in the debt since January 20, 2009 is Obama's fault is ridiculous

(2) Budget numbers today are larger in nominal terms as a result of inflation, which means you can do this analysis for almost any modern-day president

Continuing on (2), let's do the same type of analysis for Bush and Reagan:

In his first two years in office (2003 debt amount less 2001 debt amount), Bush increased the national debt by more than all the presidents from Washington through Carter's 3rd year combined.

In his first two years in office (1995 debt less 1993 debt), Clinton increased the national debt by more than all the presidents from Washington through Nixon combined.

In his first two years in office (1983 debt amount less 1981 debt amount), Reagan increased the national debt by more than all the presidents from Washington through Nixon combined.

Going back to (1), was all of the run-up in the debt under Bush his fault? Absolutely not. First off, like Obama, Bush basically inherited an economy on the decline. Second, the amount added to the debt is mostly the result of business cycles anyway, which are largely beyond the control of the White House. (Insert debate over the efficacy of Keynesian policies here.)

Did Obama's policies add to the national debt? Like Bush (tax cuts, wars and higher spending on Medicare and education), there's no doubt the answer is yes. But even if you assume that $1 trillion was Obama's fault (stimulus bill and other spending items such as expanded unemployment insurance), that still leaves $1.5 trillion in the past 19 months added to the debt that is not the fault of the president's policies and is mostly driven by the macroeconomy.

(I guess if you want to put the entire blame of the current macroeconomy on Obama, you can believe so if it makes you feel good to have such twisted beliefs. But no honest assessment of blame would reach such an extreme conclusion.)

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/26683.html

Nickdfresh
09-10-2010, 09:18 PM
The voice of reason??

Or intellectually pathetic dickbags that swallow the mindless GOP cum whole so you vote against your own interests? Elvis is the king of that!

Nickdfresh
09-10-2010, 09:21 PM
Idiot huh? :rolleyes:


Awards and honors
•Hannity received a Marconi Award in 2003 and 2007 as the Network Syndicated Personality of the Year from the National Association of Broadcasters
National Association of Broadcasters
The National Association of Broadcasters is a trade association representing the interests of for-profit, over-the-air radio and television broadcasters in the United States...
.
•In 2009, Talkers MagazineTalkers magazineTalkers Magazine is a trade industry publication related to talk radio in the United States. Its slogan is "The Bible of Talk Radio and the New Talk Media"...
listed Hannity as #2 on their list of the 100 most important radio talk show hosts in America. The same magazine gave Hannity their Freedom of Speech Award in 2003.
•In 2005, Jerry Falwell, chancellor of Liberty UniversityLiberty UniversityLiberty University is a private Christian university located in Lynchburg, Virginia. Between residential and online students, Liberty has an enrollment of over 60,000 students and offers more than 60 different academic programs...
, awarded Hannity an honorary degree.
•Radio and Records magazine has honored Hannity with the National Talk Show Host of the Year Award for three consecutive years.

Hitler was popular, and had nice credentials, too...

Not that Hannity is "Hitler," because he clearly isn't intentionally evil or anything. But I love the logic that big ratings and awards somehow equivocate some sort of integrity or success...

jhale667
09-10-2010, 09:31 PM
Fuck. Talk about problems with reading comprehension. That is not what I said freak job.

You were specifically referring to Muslims, true - but admit you're also learning you shouldn't try to match wits with anyone in here - because you're UNARMED, fuckwit. :lol:

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 11:44 PM
And his party has had FULL control. Yet they blame Republicans as the party of no. It shouldn't matter whether every Repub says no to every fucking thing they do. FULL control means they can do anything they want. They have only themselves to blame for the total clusterfuck of not getting anything done.

They had their chance controlling everything and failed miserably.

Full control means they passed a law that forces us to pay even more inflated health care insurance premiums and they sold it as socialized medicine. Let's call it what it really is. Racketeering.

Nitro Express
09-10-2010, 11:47 PM
Hitler was popular, and had nice credentials, too...

Not that Hannity is "Hitler," because he clearly isn't intentionally evil or anything. But I love the logic that big ratings and awards somehow equivocate some sort of integrity or success...

Please don't insult Hitler. He produced some of the best propaganda films in history and promoted the development of the longest term production car in history. Do you think Hannity could do that?

GAR
09-11-2010, 01:45 AM
If you knew anything about CNS "News" (founded by Pat Robertson and his puppet Brent Bozo) or ever heard Terry Jeffrey speak (he sounds like a Munchkin from the Wizard of Oz) you would know better than to take anything they say seriously. :lmao:

Pay attention to the FACTS not the source, you twisted old prune.

You said the same thing about Bush, didn't you! Now look at what your Boy did to us.. nice goin'.

GAR
09-11-2010, 01:47 AM
You were specifically referring to Muslims

Any reference to Muslims without invoking the epithet "mudpeople" is unfair, and certainly unbalanced.

Quit drugs, see a shrink and then get a job. And when I say "job" I mean a career.. one that will keep you off the internets during business hours you're supposed to be working with the homosexuals in your office doing G-d knows what...

FORD
09-11-2010, 03:06 AM
Any reference to GAyR without invoking the epithet "dumpster diving, library squatting, Jizzy blowing trailer trash racist" is unfair, and certainly unbalanced.



Exactly.

ashstralia
09-11-2010, 07:37 AM
love it.

our recent federal election was like a soccer game.

long periods of interminable boredom, then no result.

a thrilling nil all win. gotta love democracy!

now we've got a lefty righty centrey pinkie greeny thing that just might work.

Terry
09-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Putting the whole debate over which party is more to blame for the current state of the economy to one side, how do we go about fixing it?

The stimulus bills may turn out to be little more than a Band-Aid on a mortal wound, or simply a means of gradually easing into/padding the eventual crash into the inevitable: massive unemployment and all the problems that entails.

If the economy is consumer-based and people aren't pumping money into the economy, how much can Obama (or anyone else sitting in the WH for that matter) do? The President can't force the majority of American businesses to start hiring people and make a 100% employed workforce a priority over "the bottom line" mentality.

Don't the multitudes of companies who for decades have been shifting manufacturing (and thus jobs) overseas for DECADES (on the watch of Democratic AND Republican Administrations) bear as much responsibility as the politicians?

I dunno...the idea that regime change in the WH is gonna really address the problems this nation is facing...it's a non-starter. If the bulk of the citizenry aren't willing to wake up, become engaged in a manner that is sustained beyond the election cycle and really be willing to sacrifice and endure some hardship, you can elect whoever you want to and it ain't gonna matter.

ELVIS
09-11-2010, 01:41 PM
People are waking up...

BigBadBrian
09-11-2010, 03:27 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/september_2010/obama_approval_index_september_9_2010/377054-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_september_9_2010.jpg

jhale667
09-11-2010, 04:52 PM
Any statement I make should be ignored, or at the very least ridiculed. I'm obsessed with you and insanely jealous because all these years you have had a real job that still allows you ample time to kick my ignorant racist troll ass on the Internet even during business hours. I have to dumpster-dive and suck cock under the 405 to survive.


Sucks to be you, huh?

Terry
09-11-2010, 08:36 PM
People are waking up...

I hope so, man, I really do.