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Carloscda
10-05-2010, 04:14 AM
After sitting back and taking in all that is going on right now, I'm so sick & tired of people dissing this man & his family!! Lets be Clear the only reason all this hate & rhetoric is at a all time fever pitch is because the man is Black!!

People coming out the woodwork all of a sudden speaking out against him?! Umm where were all of you when Bush used his propaganda machine to scare use into Iraq?! This man lied so much that he had the undercover agents identities exposed when they were about to put him on blast! Where was the outcry then?!

You have people saying he's ruining the country, he's promised false hope. Really...

This recession started a yr before the man was even in office!! Hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost before the man came into office! But how convenient it is that you don't hear about that from the right?!

No President has come into office with 2 wars & a recession going on, No One!! But it's all good let the black man handle it and we can blame him!

Like he said when he started this journey this is going to be a marathon not a sprint! It took a decade to get where we're at now and it's going to take yrs to get out of this mess but for some reason People just don't get it??

And now people are complaining about Michelle Obama because she's advocating healthy life styles for our kids. Even though Doctors, fitness experts etc have been saying this for yrs now we need to do something about the food our kids are consuming! Especially in the black community with the high blood pressure, diabetes, heart conditions etc.. that alot of us suffer from.

You have Palin giving advice, saying how she could've done a better job, Really?! She couldn't even finish her term as governor straight lying saying how she wants to spend more time at home with kids. But low & behold she's doing speaking engagements, tv shows etc.. Don't hear anyone bringing that up?!

You can call me a Obamabot, WTFE!! It wouldn't have mattered if he was green I voted for him because he's smart & intelligent and was about uniting! Like he said it's not about me it's about all of us!!

But on the other hand you have some reps saying how they're going to break him, we're going to say No to everything! Yea, that's a good way to put this country back on its feet!!

If the President fails we all fail but some just don't get it??!!

Pissed Off....

GAR
10-05-2010, 05:53 AM
Like the 91 percent of blacks in this country who were recently polled, you don't get it.

The reason I hate on the guy is basic: he's a liar, spent more in the first two years in office than the last 43 presidents combined, Obamacare, Cap n Trade, his Apology Tours... and on and on.

Know why his latest Apology Tours are being held in people's backyards? Cuz if they did 'em in the front yard they'd have to move all the Forclosure Sale signs out of the way.

BigBadBrian
10-05-2010, 06:29 AM
Lets be Clear the only reason all this hate & rhetoric is at a all time fever pitch is because the man is Black!!

Now there's an original thought. We've never heard that on this board before.

:gulp:

BigBadBrian
10-05-2010, 06:30 AM
Now there's an original thought. We've never heard that on this board before.

:gulp:

BTW Carlos...you're a dumbass!

sadaist
10-05-2010, 08:09 AM
Lets be Clear the only reason all this hate & rhetoric is at a all time fever pitch is because the man is Black!!


We already have a thread about LeBron & "The Decision".

Jesus H Christ
10-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Lets be Clear the only reason all this hate & rhetoric is at a all time fever pitch is because the man is Black!!

.

NONSENSE

Obamas socialist agenda is the reason for the backlash.....It is possible to disagree, or even dislike a black person without it being racism.

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 09:41 AM
NONSENSE

Obamas socialist agenda is the reason for the backlash.....It is possible to disagree, or even dislike a black person without it being racism.

Thank you. I've never quite understood the rationale for including racial matters into political discussions, as it seems to belong on a high school debating team's list of last gasp and purely desperate options for winning an argument, followed only by "I know you are but what am I?". Voicing disapproval of the Obama regime's performance in the White House makes a person a racist no more than disagreeing with the political choices of Israel makes a person antisemitic.

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 10:04 AM
Obama be lyin' and peeps be dyin' !!


:elvis:

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 10:20 AM
No President has come into office with 2 wars & a recession going on, No One!! But it's all good let the black man handle it and we can blame him!


Uh-huh. Did you wake up this morning and decide that any thought that entered your head would somehow add relevance your post? A little fact checking reveals that a handful of Presidents had things a tad bit worse than Mr. Obama, yet they somehow managed to persevere without a great deal of whining by their supporters. And as for your theory about Presidents during wartime, it holds water like a cheese grater...

* George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio
* Thomas Jefferson: Tripolitan War, 1800-1805, against the Barbary pirates
* James Madison - War of 1812, 1812-1814, against the British
* James Monroe - First Seminole War, 1817-1818
* Andrew Jackson - Black Hawk War, 1832
* Martin Van Buren - Aroostook War, 1839; Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* William Henry Harrison - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* John Tyler - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* James Polk - Mexican War
* James Buchanan - beginning of the Civil War
* Abraham Lincoln - Civil War, 1861-1865
* William McKinley - Spanish-American War, 1898; Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1900
* Woodrow Wilson - WWI, 1914-1918
* Warren Harding - formally concluded WWI
* Franklin Roosevelt - WWII, 1941-1945
* Harry Truman - conclusion of WWII, Korean War - 1950-1953
* Dwight Eisenhower - conclusion of Korean War
* John Kennedy - Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961; beginning of Vietnam War
* Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam War, Dominican Republic, 1965
* Richard Nixon - Vietnam War
* Ronald Reagan - Grenada Invasion, 1983
* George Bush - Invasion of Panama, 1989-1990; Persian Gulf War, 1990-1991
* George W. Bush - War against the Taliban, Iraq, 2001 to present.

US Presidents: Lists and Records (http://www.heptune.com/preslist.html)

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 10:34 AM
Please don' try ta confuse da Obamabot wiff facts, chef...

Nickdfresh
10-05-2010, 11:04 AM
Thank you. I've never quite understood the rationale for including racial matters into political discussions, as it seems to belong on a high school debating team's list of last gasp and purely desperate options for winning an argument, followed only by "I know you are but what am I?". Voicing disapproval of the Obama regime's performance in the White House makes a person a racist no more than disagreeing with the political choices of Israel makes a person antisemitic.

I certainly agree that not everyone who opposes Obama's Administration is somehow racist, I would say that idiotic conspiracy theories regarding the Kenyan and Muslim bullshit are both highly tainted with racist bias. Furthermore, teabaggers and extremists would never have made such baseless horseshit claims against a white president whose father had been from Britain in identical circumstances...

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 11:08 AM
I think people were hoping Barrack would be change for the better but his policies are tearing this country down and making the economic situation worse. It's become clear to the people this president doesn't give a ratt's ass about what you want and is set on getting as much of his agenda done as he can even if it destroys small to medium sized businesses and skyrockets the debt. Obama has been a disaster and has only made things worse. Everyone with the exception of the welfare rat will be glad to see him go.

Nickdfresh
10-05-2010, 11:12 AM
I think people were hoping Barrack would be change for the better but his policies are tearing this country down and making the economic situation worse. It's become clear to the people this president doesn't give a ratt's ass about what you want and is set on getting as much of his agenda done as he can even if it destroys small to medium sized businesses and skyrockets the debt. Obama has been a disaster and has only made things worse. Everyone with the exception of the welfare rat will be glad to see him go.

How exactly has he "destroyed small and medium sized business?" And the debt was already skyrocketing due to this thing called an economic recession that began under Bush coupled with his tax cuts for the wealthy, foreign wars we hemorrhaged both 'blood and treasure' on, and had root in many of Bush's (and Clinton's) economic policies and was easily predictable as far back as the corporate scandals involving ENRON, World Comm, Adelphia, etc....

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Obama being elected basically proved the US will finally vote a person into the executive branch regardless of their color. That was the only historic thing about this president. Too bad it wasn't someone with some integrity. The thing is, now that hype is over and people are looking for real solutions to the problems and they look at this guy taking over private industry and running up a huge deficit while smugly chastising people who have lost their jobs and homes to buck up while he and his wife take luxury vacations and throw lavish parties. Can you say out of touch and don't care? What about the hard working black people who built their own businesses and this asshole is out to ruin them with Obamacare and cap and trade? The overhead will be so huge and the government paperwork and inspections so thick, you just don't want to do it anymore. Of course the people still in the Obama hypefest don't see the reality.

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Obama is an idealogue who has no concept of how free market capitalism works, yet he continues to preach radical change...

As far as i'm concerned, Obama can keep the change...


:elvis:

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
How exactly has he "destroyed small and medium sized business?"

With over-regulation...

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 11:27 AM
Obama's policies will increase the overhead of small and medium sized businesses substantially and as far as the previous corruption goes, Obama is in bed with the big boys. He has given Wall Street crooks all they ever wanted. There are more defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan than soldiers. So nothing has changed there but this president wants the government to make all the choices for you and loathes people who can take care of themselves. So let's pass laws and policies that will increase the overhead to such levels, they will just go out of business. This president will take what little decent industry we have left and destroy it while the big boys mop it up. Not only does this president not care about you, he is more agressive at taking what you have away from you. The Obama connected rich like the Goldman-Sachs gang will get whatever they want but the self-made middle class business owner will be destroyed due to regulations and skyrocketing overhead. So everything everybody hated about Bush is still in play but now the monster has turned on the average citizen harder. Basically Obama is trying to set up a fascist dictatorship if you look at what he's trying to do. This is the transformation of Amercia he was talking about.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 11:28 AM
With over-regulation...

Don't forget the taxation.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 11:33 AM
Everyone needs to take a 12 guage shotgun and blow their television away and think for themselves. All the worthless box does is tell you how popular and cool some idiot is and too many people buy into the hype or they just go along with it because it's trendy.

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 12:11 PM
Like the 91 percent of blacks in this country who were recently polled, you don't get it.

The reason I hate on the guy is basic: he's a liar, spent more in the first two years in office than the last 43 presidents combined, Obamacare, Cap n Trade, his Apology Tours... and on and on.

Know why his latest Apology Tours are being held in people's backyards? Cuz if they did 'em in the front yard they'd have to move all the Forclosure Sale signs out of the way.

From what I read on these boards you get your info from fuax news so trying to reason with you is like trying to reason with Ed about bringing Mike back.....

Mushroom
10-05-2010, 12:15 PM
I'm getting tired of watching the Prez read from a teleprompter. Look to the left for 4 seconds. Look in front of you for 1 second. Look to the right for 4 seconds. Ridiculous

Sorry That's Racist! NOT Hey Carlos :fufu:

"it's because he's black" You know what? Stick that up your A$$ and come up with a more intelligent reason that works for 90% of Caucasian populace other than the simple race card.

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 12:15 PM
BTW Carlos...you're a dumbass!

I see we have a keyboard tuff guy... I'm at Broad & Eire Ave Philly Pa...

Mushroom
10-05-2010, 12:19 PM
We already have a thread about LeBron & "The Decision".

what a joke. I loved LeBron James in Cleveland. I probably would have loved the guy wherever he goes, until that big spectacle of a circus he made. Now you can call me a racist because LeBron plays with a more professional athlete, Dwayne Wade.

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 12:37 PM
Uh-huh. Did you wake up this morning and decide that any thought that entered your head would somehow add relevance your post? A little fact checking reveals that a handful of Presidents had things a tad bit worse than Mr. Obama, yet they somehow managed to persevere without a great deal of whining by their supporters. And as for your theory about Presidents during wartime, it holds water like a cheese grater...

* George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio
* Thomas Jefferson: Tripolitan War, 1800-1805, against the Barbary pirates
* James Madison - War of 1812, 1812-1814, against the British
* James Monroe - First Seminole War, 1817-1818
* Andrew Jackson - Black Hawk War, 1832
* Martin Van Buren - Aroostook War, 1839; Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* William Henry Harrison - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* John Tyler - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* James Polk - Mexican War
* James Buchanan - beginning of the Civil War
* Abraham Lincoln - Civil War, 1861-1865
* William McKinley - Spanish-American War, 1898; Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1900
* Woodrow Wilson - WWI, 1914-1918
* Warren Harding - formally concluded WWI
* Franklin Roosevelt - WWII, 1941-1945
* Harry Truman - conclusion of WWII, Korean War - 1950-1953
* Dwight Eisenhower - conclusion of Korean War
* John Kennedy - Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961; beginning of Vietnam War
* Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam War, Dominican Republic, 1965
* Richard Nixon - Vietnam War
* Ronald Reagan - Grenada Invasion, 1983
* George Bush - Invasion of Panama, 1989-1990; Persian Gulf War, 1990-1991
* George W. Bush - War against the Taliban, Iraq, 2001 to present.

US Presidents: Lists and Records (http://www.heptune.com/preslist.html)

All that you listed is one War not 2? Where's the recessions at in that list with thousands of jobs being lost before the President even entered office?

As for the racism you have to be blind to say it's not surrounding this man! He has had the most death threats ever!
Don't know if any of you responding are black if you are you need to wake up! You should know buzz words & actions when you hear & see them!
Ex, for the Inauguration Cheney said he hurt his back moving so that's why he was in a wheel chair? Really all that money he has he's lifting heavy items himself, Right!
No he wasn't trying to give the man any respect by standing for him, that was his protest!

No you don't have to be a racist because you disagree with him but alot of the backlash, emails, disrespect etc that he faces has something to do with his skin color Period!
They're still trying to prove that he wasn't born in the US! Have you heard Newt Gingrich comments lately?!

FORD
10-05-2010, 12:44 PM
NONSENSE

Obamas socialist agenda is the reason for the backlash.....It is possible to disagree, or even dislike a black person without it being racism.

So the false Christ finally showed up and he's a teabagger. Wow, there's a shock. :rolleyes:

Socialist agenda? What planet are you living on?

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 12:46 PM
I'm getting tired of watching the Prez read from a teleprompter. Look to the left for 4 seconds. Look in front of you for 1 second. Look to the right for 4 seconds. Ridiculous

Sorry That's Racist! NOT Hey Carlos :fufu:

"it's because he's black" You know what? Stick that up your A$$ and come up with a more intelligent reason that works for 90% of Caucasian populace other than the simple race card.

It's called public speaking and every school teaches it, any & and everyone who speaks to a crowd scans the room!!

As far as jobs are concerned you can't force a company to hire you! That's like trying to force your boss to give you a raise, it's not that easy!

And for the FU.. I'm at Broad & Eire Ave Philly Pa...

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 12:53 PM
I'm at Broad & Eire Ave Philly Pa...

You work on the train, tuff girl ??

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSqrhUPsULbkbG3kq1st4xi_jAwfYqyd 5pZdKMOtEFw83DCCk0&t=1&usg=__xMPt7noOpnSDP_x55cP67PzjWzM=

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 12:54 PM
It's called public speaking and every school teaches it, any & and everyone who speaks to a crowd scans the room!!



Scans the room ???

He's reading a teleprompter...

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 01:14 PM
you work on the train, tuff girl ??

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:and9gcsqrhupsulbkbg3kq1st4xi_jawfyqyd 5pzdkmotefw83dcck0&t=1&usg=__xmpt7noopnsdp_x55cp67pzjwzm=

no bitch i work at a construction company!

Carloscda
10-05-2010, 01:29 PM
Scans the room ???

He's reading a teleprompter...

And like no one else does??!!

hambon4lif
10-05-2010, 01:32 PM
....oh dear!:lmao:

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Mushroom
10-05-2010, 01:32 PM
If the President fails we all fail but some just don't get it??!!

Pissed Off....

this is your best point. I can only hope he doesn't fail, because it's our Prez of the United F-ing States.

FORD
10-05-2010, 01:34 PM
Chimpy never read the teleprompter. But that's only because he couldn't read!

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_bookupsidedown.jpg

jhale667
10-05-2010, 01:36 PM
And like no one else does??!!

Yeah, to hear some of the douchebags here, teleprompters are this brand-spankin' new invention - they scoff at the very idea that they have been around here since the advent of television -

"No, they're JUST LIKE THE FOSSIL RECORD - placed here by Satan to trick us!!" :lmao:

ELVIS
10-05-2010, 01:37 PM
And like no one else does??!!

You said he scans the room...

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 01:41 PM
All that you listed is one War not 2? Where's the recessions at in that list with thousands of jobs being lost before the President even entered office? What difference does it make? The fact is the United States of America was founded on a wartime economy, and usually swells with profit soon after (if not also during) a conflict. War also creates jobs in many cases, though it is a despicable way to get an economy moving again, as people initially lose employment while industry refits toward wartime needs.


As for the racism you have to be blind to say it's not surrounding this man! He has had the most death threats ever!
Don't know if any of you responding are black if you are you need to wake up! You should know buzz words & actions when you hear & see them! Please point out where I posted what you have referenced. I pointed out the utter absurdity of the use of race in political theater, yet apparently you somehow missed this.


Ex, for the Inauguration Cheney said he hurt his back moving so that's why he was in a wheel chair? Really all that money he has he's lifting heavy items himself, Right!
No he wasn't trying to give the man any respect by standing for him, that was his protest! You can't be serious with that belief. As cranky and downright evil as Dick Cheney is, do you honestly believe his innate pride and arrogance would allow himself to be shown as a vulnerable, incapacitated old coot if he could walk unassisted?


No you don't have to be a racist because you disagree with him but alot of the backlash, emails, disrespect etc that he faces has something to do with his skin color Period!
They're still trying to prove that he wasn't born in the US! Have you heard Newt Gingrich comments lately?! So what is your point, that racial bias and bigotry are bad? Wow, thanks for the clue, Captain Obvious, yet crying about it isn't going to change things. As I pointed out before, the use of race is a childish antic that demeans not only the target, but the person using it in the first place. By giving heed to these nitwits (let alone listening to them to begin with) you are legitimizing their arguments, which coincidentally offer nothing in the way of solutions but plenty in the way of noise. It is a bunch of heat yielding little if any light, and in a sane world, would be ignored and disregarded. Basic common sense implores any thinking person to do the same with regard to these imbeciles.

GAR
10-05-2010, 01:42 PM
91 percent of blacks in the latest Gallup Polls claim Obama's doing a job they approve of.

I'd like to ask the folks who post here regularly, aware of the real issues as we've discussed: do ANY of you approve of Obama's performance or is he just GoldmanSach's "silver-bullet puppet" to pass 2000 page bills nobody's gonna read while the taxpayer gets soaked with unfathomably huge bills for free stuff for everybody, bailouts for bad bankers who should be unemployed and bankrupt by now?

Who here thinks Obama did the job of President well the last 2 years...
Who here thinks they will vote to reelect him..

GAR
10-05-2010, 01:45 PM
Those 9 percent of blacks who disapprove of Obama's performance in office are downright, lazy porch monkeys.

http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_Jackson_Nuts.jpg

Theys' needs tgit widdit and support a Brutha no matta wut duh coss.. or we ain't gonna get nutha chance fo REPRASHUNS A slavry..

Jesus H Christ
10-05-2010, 01:51 PM
So the false Christ finally showed up and he's a teabagger. Wow, there's a shock. :rolleyes:

Socialist agenda? What planet are you living on?


false?

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jesus-thumps-up1.jpg

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 01:52 PM
America wasn't founded on a wartime economy. That didn't come into play until after World War II. As far as the war today stimulating the economy it really doesn't happen. It's great if you work for a defense contractor but we have two wars going at the same time and the job losses mount. Also, let's not forget much of the equipment are troops use today is made by foreign companies like Baretta, Sig Sauer, Heckler and Koch, and Fabric National. I wonder how much of their equipment is made in China or Mexico? I bet most the stuff in a GI medical kit is made in China now.

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 02:04 PM
America wasn't founded on a wartime economy. That didn't come into play until after World War II. So that whole Declaration Of Independence and the Revolutionary War, that was what, an Easter egg hunt?


As far as the war today stimulating the economy it really doesn't happen. It's great if you work for a defense contractor but we have two wars going at the same time and the job losses mount. Also, let's not forget much of the equipment are troops use today is made by foreign companies like Baretta, Sig Sauer, Heckler and Koch, and Fabric National. I wonder how much of their equipment is made in China or Mexico? I bet most the stuff in a GI medical kit is made in China now.

I've never been able to grasp the business model that dictates an increase in defense spending results in a weaker economy, particularly because of what you just pointed out with overseas goods. Granted, money that would normally go to domestic weapons manufacturers is being spent abroad, but how can these jobs be downsized if they do not exist here in the first place? It's a circulat sort of argument that can only come around and bite itself in the tail because of logic.

PETE'S BROTHER
10-05-2010, 02:07 PM
you would think the american bullet manufacturers would be hirin' like crazy.

Jagermeister
10-05-2010, 02:33 PM
If anybody cares to read the latest Gallup...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallups-astonishing-numbers-and-the-lake-superior-congressional-districts-104321583.html

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143363/GOP-Positioned-Among-Likely-Midterm-Voters.aspx

Jesus Christ
10-05-2010, 02:39 PM
false?



Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Be thee gone, impostor!

PETE'S BROTHER
10-05-2010, 02:43 PM
jesus fight!!:fighting0061:

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 02:46 PM
false?



Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Be thee gone, impostor!

Oh, swell. As if there weren't enough headaches caused by ill-informed conclusions taking place in this section, now we have Dueling Deities. Somebody skip ahead to the end so we can find out how this winds up. :duh:

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 02:46 PM
For one thing the Revolutionary war was led by an organized minority against the world's military superpower. It was far from a military industrial complex. George Washington harassed the British buying time until Benjamin Franklin could convince the French to back the revolution and convince Great Britain the war would be too costly for their empire. Because of a lack of proper supplies, life was tough if you were in George Washington's army. Read up on the winter at Valley Forge.

Wars rarely help the economy because they run up huge war debts. Historically bankers love war and Queen Elizebeth I avoided war because it empowered the military and drained the treasury. The situation in the US after World War II was unique. In most cases war devistates economies; especially, if it happens where you live. Just ask anyone in Germany who is old enough to remember.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 02:54 PM
The best way to grow an economy is to have a trade surplus. That means more wealth is coming in than going out and it creates real productive jobs. If you have to run up long-term debt to create jobs that is just increasing the liabilities on the balance sheet. Sure you can count it as an asset but I will take owner's equity over debt any day. Then of course someone has to pay all this debt. You have two choices. Raise taxes which if done too much brings the economy to a halt or you can monitize the debt by inflating the currency. This lowers the multiplier on the debt and if you make everyone's money worth zero, you have eliminated the debt but ruined everyone's savings and the economy because nobody wants to work for nothing. That's how it works. Right now we are choosing to run up debt, monitize it, and increase taxes. You might as well learn some outdoor camping skills because with this kind of policy, only a fool would want to work.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 03:06 PM
After sitting back and taking in all that is going on right now, I'm so sick & tired of people dissing this man & his family!! Lets be Clear the only reason all this hate & rhetoric is at a all time fever pitch is because the man is Black!!

People coming out the woodwork all of a sudden speaking out against him?! Umm where were all of you when Bush used his propaganda machine to scare use into Iraq?! This man lied so much that he had the undercover agents identities exposed when they were about to put him on blast! Where was the outcry then?!

You have people saying he's ruining the country, he's promised false hope. Really...

This recession started a yr before the man was even in office!! Hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost before the man came into office! But how convenient it is that you don't hear about that from the right?!

No President has come into office with 2 wars & a recession going on, No One!! But it's all good let the black man handle it and we can blame him!

Like he said when he started this journey this is going to be a marathon not a sprint! It took a decade to get where we're at now and it's going to take yrs to get out of this mess but for some reason People just don't get it??

And now people are complaining about Michelle Obama because she's advocating healthy life styles for our kids. Even though Doctors, fitness experts etc have been saying this for yrs now we need to do something about the food our kids are consuming! Especially in the black community with the high blood pressure, diabetes, heart conditions etc.. that alot of us suffer from.

You have Palin giving advice, saying how she could've done a better job, Really?! She couldn't even finish her term as governor straight lying saying how she wants to spend more time at home with kids. But low & behold she's doing speaking engagements, tv shows etc.. Don't hear anyone bringing that up?!

You can call me a Obamabot, WTFE!! It wouldn't have mattered if he was green I voted for him because he's smart & intelligent and was about uniting! Like he said it's not about me it's about all of us!!

But on the other hand you have some reps saying how they're going to break him, we're going to say No to everything! Yea, that's a good way to put this country back on its feet!!

If the President fails we all fail but some just don't get it??!!

Pissed Off....

I have one question. Have you read through Obama's healthcare law? Have you noticed what it already has done to healthcare prices? They are going through the roof. Oh yeah, did you know there is a home sales tax of 3.5% in it? Enjoy, a huge tax if you sell your home if you make a profit on it. What does that have to do with healthcare? Oh yeah, Obama care sets up 150 new government agencies. Where is all the funding for these going to come from? Oh yeah, us.

Did you know Barrack Obama has spent more money than all previous presidents before him in just two years? If he really wanted to fix things he would have cut the spending, let the too big to fails on Wall Street fail, and get us the hell out of the middle east. Also, he should push alternative energy technology and make the US the leader in that. He hasn't done shit. He's about more for him and his banker friends and less for the average American. Plus, he wants to give illegal aliens amnesty for the votes so him and his politician friends will never be voted out of office.

It's this president's policies and the economic situation why people are pissed. It really has nothing to do with his skin color. He could have been a hero to the people but he chose to sell himself out to the oligarchs instead and people see him as a traitor for that.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 03:09 PM
But Barrack will be tossed out of office in 2012 an we will have a choice of Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin. Shoot yourself now! God help us!

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 03:13 PM
For one thing the Revolutionary war was led by an organized minority against the world's military superpower. It was far from a military industrial complex. George Washington harassed the British buying time until Benjamin Franklin could convince the French to back the revolution and convince Great Britain the war would be too costly for their empire. Because of a lack of proper supplies, life was tough if you were in George Washington's army. Read up on the winter at Valley Forge.
One of the key factors of the revolution was rising up against taxation without representation by the British. This led to boycotts like the Stamp Act, which in the short term was successful. The problem is that the 13 colonies had money woes keeping the war afloat, compounded by the fact that there were a few different currencies (including British) being used. Day to day commerce still existed, yet was drastically reduced, leading to shortages (as you suggested) like Valley Forge. So in effect, the United States was founded upon a wartime economy, no matter how you slice things.


Wars rarely help the economy because they run up huge war debts. Historically bankers love war and Queen Elizebeth I avoided war because it empowered the military and drained the treasury. The situation in the US after World War II was unique. In most cases war devistates economies; especially, if it happens where you live. Just ask anyone in Germany who is old enough to remember.

You appear to be well versed in this stuff, so perhaps you could explain something to me. Reading of the events leading up to WWII, I have often come across the phrase "Suing for peace". What does this mean, and what would such a thing entail?

Jesus H Christ
10-05-2010, 03:18 PM
So the false Christ finally showed up and he's a teabagger. Wow, there's a shock. :rolleyes:

Socialist agenda? What planet are you living on?


Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Be thee gone, impostor!


'Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.'" (Luke 23:34)

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 03:31 PM
WWI was a snowball effect. It gave various brokers of power an excuse to make their move. Then you have all sorts of conspiracy theories about the bankers setting the war up to make more money. Suing for peace is sort of a negotiation. Instead of coming in and taking over with power you go in and negotiate a deal using your military as collateral. It's better to take over undamaged real estate in other words.

A wartime economy is where the major manufacturing focus is on goods used in war. The Soviet Union is a good example. Their major focus was weapons, not making good cars and stuff like that. The US is currently a wartime economy because we have outsourced our consumer manufacturing to the level that most he domestic manufacturing is military based. We currently spend 60% of our budget on the military.

The colonies had a diverse economy from everything from silversmithing, ship building, to textiles, to agriculture. What happened was Great Britain ran up huge war debts and had to pay them off and so they increased the taxes in the colonies. So it sparked a tax revolt. Once the British were no longer a threat people went back to growing and making stuff. So where's the war economy here? I don't see it.

Nitro Express
10-05-2010, 03:32 PM
I would say the early US economy was mostly agrarian. I believe our biggest exports were cotton, tobacco, sugar, and lumber. Basically, we were a raw resource supplier to Europe.

chefcraig
10-05-2010, 03:41 PM
WWI was a snowball effect. It gave various brokers of power an excuse to make their move. Then you have all sorts of conspiracy theories about the bankers setting the war up to make more money. Suing for peace is sort of a negotiation. Instead of coming in and taking over with power you go in and negotiate a deal using your military as collateral. It's better to take over undamaged real estate in other words.

A wartime economy is where the major manufacturing focus is on goods used in war. The Soviet Union is a good example. Their major focus was weapons, not making good cars and stuff like that. The US is currently a wartime economy because we have outsourced our consumer manufacturing to the level that most he domestic manufacturing is military based. We currently spend 60% of our budget on the military.

The colonies had a diverse economy from everything from silversmithing, ship building, to textiles, to agriculture. What happened was Great Britain ran up huge war debts and had to pay them off and so they increased the taxes in the colonies. So it sparked a tax revolt. Once the British were no longer a threat people went back to growing and making stuff. So where's the war economy here? I don't see it.

Thanks for that man, I appreciate it. Perhaps I have attached too literal a meaning to the term "wartime economy". As opposed to defining it as works and services rendered in war, I've always thought it was a term defining the state of the economy itself. Thanks for pointing out the true definition.

knuckleboner
10-05-2010, 07:19 PM
The reason I hate on the guy is basic: he's a liar, spent more in the first two years in office than the last 43 presidents combined,

i’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’re simply misinformed, rather than a liar, yourself.

since, that statement is completely untrue. on its face, mind you, its ridiculous.

bush 43 spent trillions (TRILLIONS) on his 10 year tax cuts, 2 wars, and new entitlement program. something like $5 or $6 trillion. that’s to say nothing of the rest of his budgets. or reagan’s. or kennedy’s, or…well, you get the picture.

in any case, it’s completely wrong.

Nitro Express
10-06-2010, 11:42 AM
Obama is pretty good at giving speeches. As far as being out of touch, he's in the same club as the rest of our latest presidents. Obama's expertise is finding a good burger joint. I would take Five Guys over McDonalds any day. Clinton was a McDonalds president and Obama is a Five Guys president so when burgers are concerned, Obama is truly an expert in that area.

Nickdfresh
10-06-2010, 10:06 PM
With over-regulation...

Which ones?

Nickdfresh
10-06-2010, 10:12 PM
...
You appear to be well versed in this stuff,

Making completely unverifiable, bullshit statements?


so perhaps you could explain something to me. Reading of the events leading up to WWII, I have often come across the phrase "Suing for peace". What does this mean, and what would such a thing entail?

Easy. You give me your hot sister named Sue, and I'll stop kicking your ass!

Actually, it means something to the affect of "crying uncle" when one starts losing, but yet still has some capital (or negotiating position) in a military sense...

Nickdfresh
10-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Obama is pretty good at giving speeches. As far as being out of touch, he's in the same club as the rest of our latest presidents. Obama's expertise is finding a good burger joint. I would take Five Guys over McDonalds any day. Clinton was a McDonalds president and Obama is a Five Guys president so when burgers are concerned, Obama is truly an expert in that area.

I loved Five Guys, but it was waaayyy tooo much sometimes!

BigBadBrian
10-07-2010, 04:37 AM
I see we have a keyboard tuff guy... I'm at Broad & Eire Ave Philly Pa...

Is that where your ole lady hooks?

I'm sorry for calling you a dumbass...make that sensitive CUNT instead.

:dafinger:

BigBadBrian
10-07-2010, 04:41 AM
no bitch i work at a construction company!

Elvis, he says he's a bitch for the construction boys.

:doggystyle:

ELVIS
10-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Yeah, wait until he sees the edit job I did on his thread in main...:biggrin:

Carloscda
10-07-2010, 01:53 PM
I know you're punk ass is going to edit this as well but you and others like you need to grow the FUCK UP!!

hambon4lif
10-07-2010, 02:27 PM
I loved Five Guys, but it was waaayyy tooo much sometimes!You're lucky that people know 5 Guys is a burger joint.

I can easily see your post being taken out of context.:biggrin:

ELVIS
10-07-2010, 02:35 PM
Yeah, he's back down to four queers...

Nickdfresh
10-07-2010, 11:31 PM
You're lucky that people know 5 Guys is a burger joint.

I can easily see your post being taken out of context.:biggrin:

Ha! :D

PETE'S BROTHER
10-13-2010, 12:00 PM
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PETE'S BROTHER
10-13-2010, 12:00 PM
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And that's not all — Obama also is apparently related to conservative radio host and relentless critic Rush Limbaugh.
A genealogist at the Utah-based Ancestry.com, Anastasia Tyler, said Obama and Palin are 10th cousins through a common ancestor named John Smith, a pastor and early settler in 17th-century Massachusetts. Obama is related to Smith through his mother, as is Palin, Tyler said.

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10-15-2010, 10:33 PM
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FORD
10-15-2010, 11:19 PM
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FORD
10-15-2010, 11:20 PM
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10-15-2010, 11:33 PM
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10-16-2010, 12:02 AM
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FORD
10-16-2010, 01:09 AM
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Funny thing is.... I was looking around on Google Earth earlier. Stopped off at Cabo San Lucas and looked up Sammy's bar. As soon as I saw it, I had this weird craving for cheese :cheese:

Thank God I had some habanero jack in the fridge.....

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sadaist
10-16-2010, 01:57 AM
Thank God I had some habanero jack in the fridge.....

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That is the absolute best cheese on a huge home-made flame grilled burger.

PETE'S BROTHER
10-16-2010, 11:40 PM
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