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Satan
11-04-2010, 06:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UACK93xF-FE

GAR
11-04-2010, 07:28 PM
I take it this means you are a homoerotic advocate?

72 year-old Jap twinks turn your ticklebag huh..

Diamondjimi
11-04-2010, 07:32 PM
I take it this means you are a homoerotic advocate?

72 year-old Jap twinks turn your ticklebag huh..

Racist Homophobe, sez wha? :shiznit:

Nickdfresh
11-04-2010, 11:20 PM
I take it this means you are a homoerotic advocate?

72 year-old Jap twinks turn your ticklebag huh..

Well Gar, what's fascinating is that you're both obsessed with homosexual related issues, and have a keen sense of gay lingo...

Nitro Express
11-04-2010, 11:25 PM
I love it when George Tokai is on the Howard Stern show. It's always funny as hell.

Nitro Express
11-04-2010, 11:27 PM
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Seshmeister
11-04-2010, 11:58 PM
I love it when George Tokai is on the Howard Stern show. It's always funny as hell.

George Tokai? That's the guy who made Captain Kirk's guitar? :)

GAR
11-05-2010, 12:04 AM
Racist Homophobe, sez wha? :shiznit:

When it is I who plow the old Hyundai wagon thru the crowded sidewalks off Santa Monica Blvd, it is the Gays that are garophobes.

Fear is on the other foot for good reason.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 01:22 AM
George Tokai? That's the guy who made Captain Kirk's guitar? :)

He made the axe for this dude.

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Baby's On Fire
11-05-2010, 01:36 AM
Homosexuality is just wrong. Period.

Not to say homos should be killed, but they should never be condoned. Homosexuality is a flaw in nature. A deviation. A fuck-up of nature. Every species exists for one reason only, and that is to procreate. Period. Homosexuality does not advance the survival of any species. Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit.

No other species has the male gender sucking the cock of the male gender. Just goes to show how fucked-up the human species is (as if American politics didn't already prove this). Show me two male elephants sucking each other off and I'll give you the keys to the vault......

Notwithstanding any of the above, nothing beats two hot lesbians. That is entirely acceptable, and yes, condoned......yum yum I want some as Bud Bundy would say.

Blaze
11-05-2010, 03:26 AM
Homosexuality is just wrong. Period.

Not to say homos should be killed, but they should never be condoned. Homosexuality is a flaw in nature. A deviation. A fuck-up of nature. Every species exists for one reason only, and that is to procreate. Period. Homosexuality does not advance the survival of any species. Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit.

No other species has the male gender sucking the cock of the male gender. Just goes to show how fucked-up the human species is (as if American politics didn't already prove this). Show me two male elephants sucking each other off and I'll give you the keys to the vault......

Notwithstanding any of the above, nothing beats two hot lesbians. That is entirely acceptable, and yes, condoned......yum yum I want some as Bud Bundy would say.

Genetic Homosexuality runs through both male and female. If you select a female mate that is homosexual, a homosexual trait will be present. To dis-acknowledge female homosexuality would leave your genetic offspring at a disadvantage when they address the anomaly of homosexual sexuality.

And yes, homosexuality is a common trait in species other then human. this is common knowledge among husbandry professionals.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 03:51 AM
Yup. Some people are attracted to the same sex even if they don't want to be. My nephew came out of the closet and he told me he would do anything not to be gay but he just is. I also have a friend who said the same thing. It's got to be hell and a lot of these people do commit suicide.

To be honest I know some gay people who are really decent members of society. If they want a legal domestic partnership then I have no problem. Where I have the problem is seeing gay couples adopting children. Sure a child might be better off with two gay parents who treat them well than a regular abusive father or mother. There's that argument. But I have to be honest, I cringe at the thought of it. A father and a mother is what a child needs and to stray from that is not a normal situation.

Some people should just not get married period. Tiger Woods should remain single. Charley Sheen should remain single. Jesse James should remain single. These men just can't help themselves and like a variety of women who are into kinky sex. Sadly, they marry and father children and then their dick takes over and they ruin the marriage with the mom due to cheating with a skank.

Gay people are not the normal couple either. Like the former I have reservations about these people being married. If they want to stay together then that's their choice and sure why not let them have the right to chose someone to be their legal partner for legal and medical reasons. But I think marriage should be reserved for a man and a woman.

I think some people are just perverts who fuck everything and some people are gay because of their natural preference and not because they chose to be. To be honest, I'm just glad I'm not gay and have to deal with all the issues they have to deal with. Anyone who would choose to be is nuts.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 03:58 AM
I have a friend in Hong Kong who gave the best explanation on homosexuality. This person believes in reincarnation and believes until we clear our Karma we have multiple lifetimes and we choose what sex we are going to be for each lifetime. He said homosexuals are just holding onto their past desires of when they were the opposite sex of a previous lifetime. Their chi energy is unbalanced and much of what happens in the current lifetime is paying back karma for the previous lifetime.

Pretty wild but hey, it's the best explanation I've heard yet.

GAR
11-05-2010, 04:20 AM
When I did Yoga and released some of that pent-up cheeze energy I was asked to leave.

Unchainme
11-05-2010, 08:47 AM
No other species has the male gender sucking the cock of the male gender. Just goes to show how fucked-up the human species is (as if American politics didn't already prove this). Show me two male elephants sucking each other off and I'll give you the keys to the vault......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Ummmmm...yeah, I'm going to leave this here.

Mind you I think gay sex is gross (minus lesbians of course ;)), but it's not an ananomaly in the animal kingdom, that only humans engage in.

sadaist
11-05-2010, 10:42 AM
When I see a hot naked chicks pussy, I can NOT help from getting turned on. Without even thinking about it, it just happens. Nothing I can do about it. Been this way ever since I saw my first naked woman in a Playboy at age 8-10 (somewhere around that age).

I assume it is the same for homosexuals. You can't help what it is that gets you excited. Nothing wrong with it. Just something you can't control. You can however control what you do with that excitement & turn-on. Whether or not you choose to act upon it is a choice.

Is it wrong? Hell, I don't know what is right or wrong. I think anything harmless between consenting adults in their own privacy is fine.

But what about the people who are attracted to animals? Or dead bodies? Or feces? Or children? Or torture? Like I said, you can't help what you are attracted to, only whether or not you act upon it. We make such a point with homosexuality to say that it is okay because it is not a choice. Well neither are the other things I listed.

So if you are okay with homosexuals because it is consenting adults...why not polygamy? I don't know. Such a slippery slope when we start to decide what is right or wrong for other people when it doesn't hurt, affect, or involve us personally.

Now, with all that said. Homosexuality is not a choice, but being a flaming fag is. To start dressing, speaking & acting like Perez Hilton IS a choice. Those are the people that I think do it more out of trying to fill a role or garner attention rather than something they were born with. Kinda like choosing to be a goth, or punk, or whatever.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 10:53 AM
When I see a hot naked chicks pussy, I can NOT help from getting turned on.

I hear ya! Owwwwwwwww! :bigboobs::erection::doggystyle::cowgirl:

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 10:54 AM
I know one fact about homosexuality. It lasts one generation.

GAR
11-05-2010, 12:40 PM
You can't help what it is that gets you excited. Nothing wrong with it.

I can't help that I just killed 25 job-thieving, economy-destroying illegal aliens in the Home Depot parking lot, Officer I got just a little excited.. There's nothing wrong with that!

Seshmeister
11-05-2010, 01:04 PM
No other species has the male gender sucking the cock of the male gender. Just goes to show how fucked-up the human species is (as if American politics didn't already prove this). Show me two male elephants sucking each other off and I'll give you the keys to the vault......


It's amazing how often you still hear this crap repeated.

Did you turn into one of those born again religious nuts?

PM me the password to this vault...

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Seshmeister
11-05-2010, 01:07 PM
Homosexuality is just wrong. Period.

Not to say homos should be killed, but they should never be condoned. Homosexuality is a flaw in nature. A deviation. A fuck-up of nature. Every species exists for one reason only, and that is to procreate. Period. Homosexuality does not advance the survival of any species. Spare me the bleeding heart bullshit.


No masturbation, contraception or sex with women over 45 because its not for procreation Ayatollah?

sadaist
11-05-2010, 01:13 PM
I can't help that I just killed 25 job-thieving, economy-destroying illegal aliens in the Home Depot parking lot, Officer I got just a little excited.. There's nothing wrong with that!


You totally missed my post.

It is okay for you to want to kill them.
NOT okay for you to actually act on those thoughts.

And your actions have a direct impact on the lives of others. While your going home with Bubba & packing some fudge tonight doesn't affect anyone but the 2 people consenting.

Seshmeister
11-06-2010, 08:02 AM
I have a friend in Hong Kong who gave the best explanation on homosexuality. This person believes in reincarnation and believes until we clear our Karma we have multiple lifetimes and we choose what sex we are going to be for each lifetime. He said homosexuals are just holding onto their past desires of when they were the opposite sex of a previous lifetime. Their chi energy is unbalanced and much of what happens in the current lifetime is paying back karma for the previous lifetime.

Pretty wild but hey, it's the best explanation I've heard yet.

Really?

I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster decides before we are born by boiling two bits of pasta.

If the macaroni is al dente before the ravioli then it's sucking cock for you.

Seshmeister
11-06-2010, 08:03 AM
You totally missed my post.

It is okay for you to want to kill them.
NOT okay for you to actually act on those thoughts.

And your actions have a direct impact on the lives of others. While your going home with Bubba & packing some fudge tonight doesn't affect anyone but the 2 people consenting.

Exactly.

Who are these fucking pricks that think they get to decide which adults get to fuck which other adults.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 03:50 PM
Really?

I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster decides before we are born by boiling two bits of pasta.

If the macaroni is al dente before the ravioli then it's sucking cock for you.

I like sticking my spaghetti into warn moist shell pasta. I also like to eat warm moist shell pasta.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 03:54 PM
The true test of your sexuality is to get in a really relaxed state of mind and then let who you want to bang enter your mind. If it's animals or children you might have a problem.

GAR
11-06-2010, 06:07 PM
Every gay guy I've known has had a very sad undercurrent running in his life because they ultimately know what they do is wrong regardless of the faggot community's support.

kwame k
11-06-2010, 06:21 PM
Every gay guy I've known has had a very sad undercurrent running in his life because they ultimately know what they do is wrong regardless of the faggot community's support.

That explains your bitterness, Clay!

GAR
11-06-2010, 06:56 PM
No I actually agree 80% with what Takei says: the principle who said that obviously abused his position of authority in wishing faggots to die from each others AIDS and that he found it funny, for that he really IS a douchebag obviously.

However, Takei says "I want you (homos) to know that if you have been bullied for being (homos) that it gets better."

He should specify how that "better" gets there, such as when you quit behaving as a defect of society and carrying that behaviour as some extra-priveledged chip on your fucking shoulder you hold up to everyone's face "look at me I'm a defect and proud that you can't do anything about it." Another way things get better for gay people who've been slandered, is peers in school as they get older grow up and learn to ignore 'em.

Kinda the way I have you on Ignore, kinda not..

kwame k
11-06-2010, 07:18 PM
Really.........so your helpful tips on how to kill yourself was just, what? A brain fart?????

You're an idiot not a humanitarian......jackass!

GAR
11-06-2010, 07:51 PM
Are you asking for suicide instructions? Why wait for my sketches to arrive - just plop a garden hose thru the rolled-up window then into the tailpipe and take a nice rohypnol nap in the back seat jackass!

Where in the world did I say "somebody go kill yourself"?

kwame k
11-06-2010, 08:40 PM
Wow, just plain wow....... taunting a Mother's son who was being deployed never happened either, jackass.........

BTW, liar.......you have me on ignore, why are you responding to me????

Satan
11-06-2010, 09:34 PM
GAyR's mom and papa told him he was crazy to stay. He's a fag in New York and gay in LA..........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZU1DNppTp8

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 09:45 PM
Are you asking for suicide instructions? Why wait for my sketches to arrive - just plop a garden hose thru the rolled-up window then into the tailpipe and take a nice rohypnol nap in the back seat jackass!

Where in the world did I say "somebody go kill yourself"?

It's too slow and never seems to work. Just wash down some phenol barbitol with vodka and that will do the trick. It's much easier on the relatives and friends than seeing your head blown off and splattered all over the room.

chefcraig
11-06-2010, 10:52 PM
GAyR's mom and papa told him he was crazy to stay. He's a fag in New York and gay in LA...

Considering things, wouldn't this be a bit more apt?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gog65_CyZlg&feature=related

Seshmeister
11-06-2010, 11:45 PM
.....



Jesus Christ

Was/is Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus
Christ) straight, bisexual or gay?

Overview:

We recognize that the title to this essay will be seen by many readers as rather inflammatory.

Australian educator, Michael Kelly wrote: "The question is, apparently, provocative....even asking the question is sacrilege, blasphemy, a vilification of Christianity, and a mockery of people's deepest beliefs." 1 Judging by the anger shown by many Christians toward the Da Vinci Code book and movie, some find it difficult to wrap their minds around the concept of Jesus having been sexually active. The thoughts that he might have been gay or bisexual are even more difficult to handle.

There is nothing in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) which specifically identifies Jesus' sexual orientation. The Bible does not say clearly whether Jesus had sexual feelings at all. If he did have sexual attraction to others, the Bible does not say whether he was a:

Heterosexual, having feelings of sexual attraction only to women, or
Homosexual, being attracted only to men
Bisexual orientation, being attracted to both men and women.
It is also silent on whether Jesus was celibate or sexually active; single or married, childless or with children. 2 In spite of the Bible's silence, some theologians have asserted that Jesus was asexual or had, and presumably still has, a specific sexual orientation.

Following our website mandate, we explain all sides to the issue.



Topics covered in this section:

Terminology. Indications that Jesus was not gay
Indications that Jesus was gay
More indications that Jesus was gay. Public reactions


Terminology:

The words "gay" and "homosexual" are difficult to use without causing confusion, because they have multiple meanings:

Many religious conservatives define them in terms of behavior. Homosexuality is what a person does. A homosexual is a person who engages in sexual activities with persons of the same sex.

Many religious liberals, Roman Catholics, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, religious mainliners, mental health professionals and human sexuality researchers define these words in terms of feelings. Homosexuality is one part of what a person is. A homosexual is a person who has a homosexual orientation. Their self-identification, fantasies and desire for sexual activity is focused on persons of the same sex.
We will use the second definition in this essay, because it is in general use in the medical and scientific communities, and is in growing use among the public.

These two definitions can lead to disputes. They make dialogue essentially impossible between religious conservatives and others. For example:

A person with a bisexual orientation who engaged in sex with person(s) of the same sex and who now has decided to confine their sexual relationship to a person of the opposite sex is considered to be an ex-gay by many conservative Christians. But many others regard the person to be a bisexual whose sexual orientation has not changed. Only their behavior choice has altered.

A person with a homosexual orientation who was once sexually active and who has decided to remain celibate is also considered an ex-gay by many conservative Christians. But others regard them to be a homosexual whose sexual orientation has not changed. They have simply decided to become sexually inactive.


Indications that Jesus did not have a homosexual orientation:

Since there is no precise statement about Jesus' sexual orientation in the Bible, we can safely start with the assumption that Yeshua of Nazareth/Jesus was a heterosexual. Probably only about 5% of males have a homosexual orientation -- both in ancient Judea during the 1st century CE, and in North America today. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered groups (LGBT) often claim 10%; conservative Protestants often claim 2% or even less. But these claims are based on unreliable science. Even fewer men in their late 20s or early 30s when Jesus was conducting his ministry would be asexual. Few would be bisexual. So, without considering any other factors, the chances of Jesus being heterosexual is quite large -- above 90%.

The vast majority of Christian theologians have probably never seriously considered the possibility that Jesus was gay. If they were asked their opinion on the question, the vast majority would probably consider him to be heterosexual; many probably assume that he was devoid of erotic or sexual feelings -- asexual.

On the other hand, there is an often quoted concept that reading the Gospels is like looking down a well. What you see in both cases is a reflection of yourself. Social activists often view Jesus as a social activist. Spiritual people frequently look upon Jesus as spiritual. Heterosexuals may see at Jesus as a heterosexual. Homosexuals may look upon him as gay, etc.

Jesus was an observant Jew who, according to the Gospels, was often followed by Pharisees and scribes who severely criticized him. He was charged with being possessed by Satan. He was accused of being a party animal who consorted with the dregs of society -- prostitutes, tax collectors, etc. Yet there is no record of them accusing him of being gay. In 1st century Judea, same-sex behavior among men was a most serious offense, worthy of the death penalty. If Jesus were gay, and if the Jewish establishment knew of his orientation, they would certainly have used it against him. Yet there is no record in the Gospels or in subsequent Jewish literature of the topic ever having been mentioned.

On the other hand, the Pharisees may have accused Jesus of being gay. But the story might have never made it into the Gospels. Alternatively, the account might have appeared in early writings, but censored in later Gospel drafts.

In Matthew 19:3-12 and Mark 10:2-12, Jesus supports the concept that God made a man and a woman so that they could marry. He is quoted as saying in both Gospels: "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Also, in Matthew 5:17-18, after the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Jesus obviously supported opposite-sex marriage and the Mosaic Law which was interpreted at the time as calling for the execution of all male homosexuals. 3

On the other hand, Jesus' general support for opposite-sex marriage and the Mosaic law gives little or no insight into his actual sexual orientation.

There are hints in the New Testament that Jesus had a very close loving relationship with Mary Magdalene which might have included sexually activity. Some theologians believe that the two were married. Dan Brown in his wildly successful novel "The Da Vinci Code" advocates this position. If Jesus possessed a homosexual orientation, he would have avoided sexual intimacy with all women:

The Gospel of John (20:1) states that she was the first person who, alone, visited the cave where Jesus' body was laid. That would have typically been the role of a wife in that society.

John (20:2-10) describes how other followers came to the tomb and left to return home. But Mary stayed. Again this would have been the behavior of a wife or an engaged woman.

In John (20:17) Jesus instructed Mary to "Touch me not." Apparently Mary was about to touch his body or at least there was some possibility that she might do so. Again it would have been inconceivable for an man and woman to touch in 1st century Judea, unless they were a married or engaged couple.

There are other indications that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married which we will describe in a future essay. If this is true, then it is very unlikely that he would have been homosexual or asexual. He probably would have been heterosexual or bisexual.

Some English translation of he Gospel of Philip -- one of the forty or so gospels that did not make it into the Christian Scriptures (a.k.a. New Testament) -- contains two interesting statements:

"There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary."

"As for the Wisdom who is called 'the barren,' she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the [...] Mary Magdalene. [...] loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her mouth."

Whether the term "companion" meant that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene or was sexually intimate with her is unclear. There sole original manuscript unfortunately contains a hole where English translators have inserted the word "mouth." So the second passage might have actually referred to Jesus kissing her hand or her shoes. Still, the act of kissing anywhere would have been a gross violation of Jewish customs unless Jesus and Mary were engaged or married.

Indications that Jesus did have a homosexual orientation:

"In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as 'the disciple whom Jesus loved'." 4 One might argue that Jesus loved all of his followers in a non-sexual way. Thus to identify Jesus' love for John in a special way might indicate a sexual relationship. The disciple was "the" beloved. He was in a class by himself.
During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the author(s) of the Gospel of John describes how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment. See John 13:25 and 21:20. Robert Goss, assistant professor of comparative religion at Webster University in St. Louis, LA, noted that Jesus and the beloved disciple: "... eat together, side by side. What's being portrayed here is a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man. A Greek reader would understand."

On the other hand:
Some commentators have suggested that it was a common practice in Judea at that time for heterosexual man to lay his head on another's undergarment. Such behavior was common between two heterosexuals in an emotionally close but non-erotic relationship during the first century CE.

Jenny Stokes, research director for Saltshakers, a conservative Christian group in Australia, said that there are five words for love in Greek (the language in which the Gospels were written:
Agape: spiritual, unconditional love,
Eros: erotic love,
Philia: love between friends,
Storge: familial love.
The Gospel references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape." Whether the authors originally used "eros" and the word was subsequently changed is open to speculation.

"Jagannath" interprets the Gospels differently. He argues that Jesus may have been bisexual. He wrote:
"In the Book of John a word is used eight times that means 'is in love with' with the implication of sexual intimacy. Five times it is used with reference to Jesus' relationship with John. Once it is used to define Jesus' relationship with Lazarus. And it is also used to describe his relationship with Mary and with her sister Martha."

During the crucifixion, in John 19:26-28, Jesus is described as seeing his mother and an unidentified man: "the disciple standing by, whom he loved." Again, Jesus probably loved all of his 12 or 70 disciples in a non-sexual manner. But this particular disciple is identified as "the" disciple who Jesus loved. That might indicate a special intimate relationship with one special disciple.

The late Morton Smith, of Columbia University reported in 1958 that he had found a fragment of a manuscript which at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem. It contained the full text of Mark, chapter 10. Apparently the version that is in the Christian Scriptures is an edited version of the original. Additional verses allegedly formed part of the full version of Mark, and were inserted after verse 34. It discusses how a young man, naked but for a linen covering, expressed his love for Jesus and stayed with him at his place all night. More details.

"J Richards" suggested that Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts. The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..." Richards suggests that Jesus gave great emphasis to this teaching, directing it to everyone. Richards suggests that the sentence refers to dietary laws and also extends to "blood transfusions, medication, organ transplants, and artificial insemination" and to homosexual acts as well.

On the other hand, these words have historically been interpreted as overturning the Mosaic law about eating,

Mark 14:51-52 describes the incident when Jesus was arrested by the religious police. It describes how one of Jesus' followers was scantily dressed. The King James Version says he had a linen cloth cast on his naked body; the size and location of the cloth is not defined. The New International Version says that he was "wearing nothing but a linen garment." When the police tried to seize him, they were able to grab only his cloth; the man ran away naked. Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men." 11 (Emphasis in the original.)

Michael Kelly wrote of Jesus' attitude towards a same-sex couple as described in Matthew 8:5-13: and Luke 7:2: "One day a Roman Centurion asked him to heal his dying servant. Scholars of both Scripture and Ancient History tell us that Roman Centurions, who were not permitted to marry while in service, regularly chose a favorite male slave to be their personal assistant and sexual servant. Such liaisons were common in the Greco-Roman world and it was not unusual for them to deepen into loving partnerships....Jesus offered to go to the servant, but the centurion asked him simply to speak a word of healing, since he was not worthy to welcome this itinerant Jewish teacher under his roof. Jesus responded by healing the servant and proclaiming that even in Israel he had never found faith like this! So, in the one Gospel story where Jesus encountered people sharing what we would call a 'gay relationship,' we see him simply concerned about -- and deeply moved by -- their faith and love." Kelly implies that Jesus' sensitivity towards the gay couple might have arisen from his own bisexual or homosexual orientation.

Some commentators argue from silence. They note that there is no passage in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) that directly describes anything about Jesus' sexuality. There are many direct and indirect references to Jesus' sensuality. He was accused of being a "drunkard and a glutton" and of partying with "prostitutes and sinners." He apparently enjoyed a tender foot massage from a woman. Yet, neither Jesus' sexuality nor his celibacy is mentioned. Yet, sex is referred to, elsewhere in the Bible, quite often. One might argue that the books in the Christian Scriptures might have once described Jesus' sexual relationships, but that these passages have been vigorously censored by the later church because they were unconventional.

Other commentators have noted that Jesus is silent towards homosexuality in the Gospels. Yet, Paul's opinions and those of many other authors in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) are clearly stated. They conclude that Jesus might have been gay. Odler Jeanlouie speculated: "Is it meaningful that, in the Sermon on the Mount, central to his teaching, he offered a one-way trip to the Kingdom of God, to anyone who is persecuted?"

GAR
11-07-2010, 12:23 AM
We have so many gay-friendly members here tonite!

Anonymous
11-07-2010, 12:28 AM
No, Gayr, NO ONE is your friend.

Now, please die! :wow2:

PETE'S BROTHER
11-07-2010, 12:30 AM
We have so many gay-friendly members here tonite!

and yet, only one incredibly foolish, simple minded, antagonistic, pot stirrin', insensitive, blight on this site. and you're worried about pron causin' problems here......:umm:

Unchainme
11-07-2010, 01:05 AM
Who really gives that much of a shit if someone is gay or not? honestly.

What someone does behind their bed room door is not my business, nor how someone choses to live their life. If they want to go fuck a guy in the ass, more power to 'em, just leaves me with one less guy to worry about in the pool of trying to hook up with some girls.

jhale667
11-07-2010, 01:06 AM
Who really gives that much of a shit if someone is gay or not? honestly.

What someone does behind their bed room door is not my business, nor how someone choses to live their life. If they want to go fuck a guy in the ass, more power to 'em, just leaves me with one less guy to worry about in the pool of trying to hook up with some girls.

Exactly, since when is less competition a bad thing? And who fucking cares besides closet-cases fighting their own repressed urges like GAyR? :turninggay:

sadaist
11-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Who really gives that much of a shit if someone is gay or not? honestly.

What someone does behind their bed room door is not my business, nor how someone choses to live their life. If they want to go fuck a guy in the ass, more power to 'em, just leaves me with one less guy to worry about in the pool of trying to hook up with some girls.


Exactly.

The one thing that gets me is when parents disown a son when they find out he is gay. I just can't imagine a parent doing that to their child. How the fuck do you do that? It's one thing to disapprove, but wtf? Why aren't people outraged at parents doing this, yet can be outraged at homosexuality? Fucked up world we live in.

GAR
11-07-2010, 02:13 AM
Mr Sulu had three words in his script the entirety of both seasons: "right away captain."

Dude got paid $40,000 each year but thinks he's Shakespeare because of it.

What's he done since then, a flatscreen TV commercial - and he's gonna tell me things get better in time if you're gay?

Looks like things did NOT get better for George Takei in time. 80-year old men should tell the truth more you'd expect..

GAR
11-07-2010, 02:18 AM
Exactly.

The one thing that gets me is when parents disown a son when they find out he is gay. I just can't imagine a parent doing that to their child. How the fuck do you do that? It's one thing to disapprove, but wtf? Why aren't people outraged at parents doing this, yet can be outraged at homosexuality? Fucked up world we live in.

I disown you for dishonouring this thread with your disapproval.

sadaist
11-07-2010, 03:19 AM
I disown you for dishonouring this thread with your disapproval.


I disagree.

Discuss...


;)

chefcraig
11-07-2010, 07:48 AM
Not for nothin', it is somewhat interesting to note that the site's self-appointed moral adviser with regard to all things porn has apparently studied Mr. Takei's (an admitted homosexual) career in great detail and interest.

Seshmeister
11-07-2010, 09:53 AM
Mr Sulu had three words in his script the entirety of both seasons: "right away captain."

Dude got paid $40,000 each year but thinks he's Shakespeare because of it.

What's he done since then, a flatscreen TV commercial - and he's gonna tell me things get better in time if you're gay?


Apart from everything else you forgot the 6 movies where he earned more than you will in your entire life.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/george-takei-net-worth/

Seshmeister
11-07-2010, 10:07 AM
Mr Sulu had three words in his script the entirety of both seasons: "right away captain."



Seriously, where does this stuff come from every day? Do you just make it up or does someone else?

I don't often check but whenever I do it seems to be just nonsense.




"Star Trek: The Naked Time (#1.4)" (1966)
[Sulu is acting psychotically]
Sulu: I'll protect you, fair maiden.
Uhura: Sorry, neither.

Sulu: Stand, no farther. No escape for you. You'll either leave this war bloodied, or with my blood on your swords.

Sulu: Are you feeling alright?
Tormolen: Get off me! You don't rank me and you don't have pointed ears, so just get off my neck!

Capt. Kirk: What is it?
Sulu: Nothing but gravity increase, sir. Like the planet reached out and yanked at us.
Capt. Kirk: Compensate.

Sulu: I'm sweating like a bridegroom.
Riley: Yeah, me too.

Sulu: Hey, why don't you come down to the gym with me, Kevin, my lad.
Riley: Now?
Sulu: Why not, a light work-out will take the edge off.


"Star Trek: The Infinite Vulcan (#1.7)" (1973)
Lieutenant Sulu: I hope these things work.

Captain James T. Kirk: What is that thing?
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: It's a mobile plant. When it stops, it's roots bore back into the ground. They're all over the place. I think it likes me.
Captain James T. Kirk: We always encourage our officers to make friends with the natives.

Agmar: But come, you are worried about your friend. I will show you he is safe and in good hands.
[turns to lead the way]
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Just like that, captain?
Captain James T. Kirk: So it would seem, Mr. Sule. All the same, keep that bag handy...

Captain James T. Kirk: By the way, Mr. Sulu, any chance of teaching me that body throw? Could come in handy some time.
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: I don't know, sir. It isn't just physical, you know. You have to be inscrutable.
Captain James T. Kirk: Inscrutable? Sulu, you're the most scrutable man I know!

"Star Trek: The Enemy Within (#1.5)" (1966)
Sulu: Temperature's starting to drop.
Captain James T. Kirk: Yeah, At night it gets down to 120 degrees below zero.
Sulu: That's nippy.

Sulu: Can you give us a status report, Captain? Temperature's still dropping. Now 41 degrees below zero.
Captain James T. Kirk: We've located the trouble. It shouldn't be much longer.
Sulu: You think you might be able to find a long rope somewhere and lower us down a pot of hot coffee?

Sulu: I think we should give room service another call. That coffee's taking too long.

Sulu: We're using hand phasers to heat the rocks. One phaser quit on us, three still operating. Any possibility of getting us back aboard before the skiing season opens down here?


"Star Trek: The Corbomite Maneuver (#1.10)" (1966)
Sulu: Four minutes, thirty seconds.
Scott: You have an annoying fascination for time pieces, Mr. Sulu.

Sulu: If, eh, anyone's interested... 30 seconds.

Lieutenant Dave Bailey: [after Spock's reply to his witty comment] Very funny.
Sulu: Try and cross brains with Spock, he'll cut you to pieces every time.


"Star Trek: The Man Trap (#1.1)" (1966)
Yeoman Janice Rand: [to one of Sulu's plants] Hello, Beauregard. How are you today, darling?
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Her name's Gertrude.
Yeoman Janice Rand: No, it's a he plant. A girl can tell.
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Why do people have to call inanimate objects "she"? Like "she's a fast ship."
Yeoman Janice Rand: He is not an inanimate object. He's so animate he makes me nervous. In fact, I keep expecting one of these plants of yours to grab me.

Yeoman Janice Rand: Where are you Sulu?
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: I'm here, feeding the weepers, Janice.
Yeoman Janice Rand: Well, I've got your tray.
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: May the Great Bird of the Galaxy bless your planet.

Captain James T. Kirk: Stand by, Mr. Sulu. Spock has something.
Mr. Spock: [Looking at body of a crewman] Green.
Captain James T. Kirk: He beamed up to the ship with us.
Mr. Spock: Or something did.
Captain James T. Kirk: Enterprise, from Kirk.
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Bridge, Sulu.
Captain James T. Kirk: You have an intruder aboard. Could be masquerading as Crewman Green. General Quarters. Security condition 3.


"Star Trek: That Which Survives (#3.17)" (1969)
Sulu: Once in Siberia there was a meteor so great that it flattened whole forrests and was felt as far as...
Captain James T. Kirk: [interrupting] Mr. Sulu, if I had wanted a Russian history lesson I'd have brought along Mr. Chekov.

Sulu: Stop, or I'll shoot. I don't wanna have to kill a woman.

"Star Trek: Mirror, Mirror (#2.4)" (1967)
Mirror Sulu: Still no interest, Uhura? Hmm? I could change your mind.
Uhura: You are away from your post, mister.
Mirror Sulu: Is the captain here? Is Spock here? When the cat's away...

Captain James T. Kirk: What is this, Mr. Sulu?
Mirror Sulu: Mr. Spock has orders to kill you, Captain. He will succeed... apparently. You will also appear to have killed him, after a fierce battle. Regrettable, but it will leave me in command.

"Star Trek: The Slaver Weapon (#1.14)" (1973)
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Mr. Spock, if it takes a stasis box to find another stasis box, how did anyone ever find the first one?
Mr. Spock: As with a number of discoveries, purely by accident, lieutenant.

Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Nice try.
Lt. Uhura: I'm slowing down. I used to run the 100 in record time.

"Star Trek: Wolf in the Fold (#2.14)" (1967)
Sulu: That's the first time I heard a malfunction threaten us.
Captain James T. Kirk: Man your post, Mr. Sulu.

Sulu: Captain...
[McCoy injects Sulu with a hydrospray, Sulu becomes euphoric]
Sulu: Whoever he is, he sure talks gloomy...
[starts to rise from chair]
Captain James T. Kirk: [pushing Sulu back into his chair] Man your post, Sulu.

"Star Trek: The Deadly Years (#2.12)" (1967)
Chekov: Give us some more blood, Chekov. The needle won't hurt, Chekov. Take off your shirt, Chekov. Roll over, Chekov. Breathe deeply, Chekov. Blood sample, Chekov. Marrow sample, Chekov. Skin sample, Chekov. If-if I live long enough, i'm going to run out of samples.
Sulu: You'll live.
Chekov: Oh yes, I'll live. But I won't enjoy it.

"Star Trek: The Empath (#3.12)" (1968)
Sulu: Do you suppose our landing party could be in any danger?
Scott: That's not likely. The planet's atmosphere will give them ample protection. And if I know captain Kirk, he'll be more worried about us than we are about him.
[cut to Kirk strung up by his hands about to be tortured]

"Star Trek: The Doomsday Machine (#2.6)" (1967)
Mr. Spock: It's closing fast on the Constellation.
Sulu: Standing by, sir.
Mr. Spock: Commodore, I suggest...
Matt Decker: Kirk pulled us out of there by distracting it. Now it's our turn. Fire phasers.
[the Enterprise fires upon the Planet Killer, causing it to release the Constellation]
Matt Decker: Did it! Hard about! Give me some distance.
[the Enterprise veers sharply to the left, away from the Planet Killer]

"Star Trek: Balance of Terror (#1.14)" (1966)
Captain James T. Kirk: Since the days of the first wooden vessels, all ship masters have had one happy privilege: that of uniting two people in the bonds of matrimony. And so, we are gathered here today with you, Angela Martine, and you, Robert Tomlinson, in the sight of your fellows in accordance with our laws and our many beliefs, that you may pledge your -
[the ceremony is interrupted by a siren]
Sulu: [through intercom] Alert! Alert! All decks, alert! Alert! Alert! Captain to the bridge, please!

"Star Trek: Shore Leave (#1.15)" (1966)
Sulu: Captain, I'm being chased by a Samurai!

"Star Trek: Albatross (#2.4)" (1974)
Mr. Spock: General order 6 has been activated?
Sulu: Yes, sir. If everyone on board has perished at the end of 24 hours the ship will self-destruct in... in order to protect other beings from the disease on board.

"Star Trek: The Lights of Zetar (#3.18)" (1969)
Chekov: I didn't think Mr Scott would go for the brainy type.
Sulu: I don't think he's even noticed she has a brain.

"Star Trek: Once Upon a Planet (#1.9)" (1973)
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: It's been almost 5 minutes, captain.
Doctor McCoy: Maybe the planet smells a trick.

"Star Trek: The Squire of Gothos (#1.17)" (1967)
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Captain... we're about to warp.
Lt. Vincent DeSalle: Large body ahead!
Mr. Spock: [Spock studies his scanner] Collision course!
Captain James T. Kirk: Hard to port, Mr. Sulu!
[the Enterprise evades the planet]
Mr. Spock: That was the planet Gothos, Captain.
Captain James T. Kirk: Gothos? Mr. Sulu, have we been going in circles?
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: No, sir. All instruments show on course.
Mr. Spock: Gothos again, Captain!
Captain James T. Kirk: [the planet has reappeared again in front of the ship, which evades it again, barely] Hard over, Mr. Sulu.
Mr. Spock: Cat and mouse game...
Captain James T. Kirk: With us as the mouse...
Lt. Vincent DeSalle: There it is again, dead ahead!
Captain James T. Kirk: Ninety degrees to starboard, Mr. Sulu
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Turning, Captain.
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: [the planet moves to block their course changes] ... but not veering off from it.
Captain James T. Kirk: Ninety degrees sub port, Mr. Sulu. Adjust...
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: Turn completed... and still accelerating toward the planet!
Mr. Spock: Or it toward us.

"Star Trek: The Terratin Incident (#1.11)" (1973)
Captain James T. Kirk: [Bones is using a miniature laser to heal Sulu's broken leg] How is it, Sulu?
Lt. Hikaru Sulu: I can feel it knitting, sir.

"Star Trek: Amok Time (#2.1)" (1967)
Sulu: How do you figure it, Chekov? First we're going to Vulcan, then we're going to Altair. Then we're headed to Vulcan again, and now we're headed back to Altair.
Chekov: I think I'm going to get space sick.

"Star Trek: Spock's Brain (#3.1)" (1968)
Sulu: Ship's Log, Lieutenant Sulu recording. I am holding the Enterprise in orbit about planet Sigma Draconis VII. Captain Kirk's hunch that Spock's brain is on this planet appears to be correct. Ensign Chekov remains on the surface to act as liaison between the Captain and the Enterprise.

"Star Trek: Turnabout Intruder (#3.24)" (1969)
Sulu: The captain really must be going mad if he thinks he can get away with an execution.
Chekov: Keptin Kirk wouldn't order an execution, even if he were going mad. That cannot be the keptin.
Sulu: What difference does it make who he is? Are we going to allow an execution to take place?
Chekov: If security backs him up, how will we fight him?
Sulu: I'll fight him every way in any way I can.

"Star Trek: This Side of Paradise (#1.24)" (1967)
Sulu: When it comes to farms, I wouldn't know what looked right or wrong if it was two feet from me.

PETE'S BROTHER
11-07-2010, 02:39 PM
"Star Trek: This Side of Paradise (#1.24)" (1967)
Sulu: When it comes to sex, I wouldn't know what looked right or wrong if it was two feet from me.

:biggrin:

PETE'S BROTHER
11-07-2010, 02:41 PM
"Star Trek: This Side of Paradise (#1.24)" (1967)
Sulu: When it comes to sex, I wouldn't know what looked right or wrong if it was two feet from me.

:biggrin:

blaze does tho:tongue0011:

GAR
11-07-2010, 04:30 PM
Takei could make swell use of The Gayifier to render his gayness inert..

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