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GAR
11-04-2010, 07:20 PM
Soul Plane II: Taj Majal Cabal!

This is a fiscal nightmare and there's more outrage to follow once those asleep wake up to this SCROTUS fucker's shenanigans.

Total est. cost $2 billion? Billion, USD. To see a Lights Festival and stay at the Taj Majal.

Let's keep it all in this thread!

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First thing you do before bitching about "this is all about Glen Beck" is tell me where CNN or PMSNBC is on all this, or STFU

Va Beach VH Fan
11-04-2010, 08:11 PM
You know GAR, maybe if you tried to research the bile that comes out of people like Beck's pie hole, you wouldn't get so hyped to post it here....

But of course, that's too much work for you....

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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/11/obamas-india-trip----not-as-expensive-as-you-may-have-heard/1

Obama's India trip -- not as expensive as you may have heard

11:56 AM
Yahoo! Buzz

No, President Obama's trip is not going to cost $200 million a day.

That figure -- first thrown out by a single Indian media outlet and now viral on conservative talk radio -- is wildly off the mark.

The problem is that the costs for these trips are impossible to determine, for many of the president's expenses would be incurred whether he was visiting India or Atlanta or simply hanging around the White House. Obama's India trip starts an Asian swing that includes South Korea, Indonesia and Japan.

The administration isn't inclined to detail costs, most of which deal with security.

"The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality," said White House spokesman Tommy Vietor. "Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated."

To be sure, these trips do cost millions of dollars per day.

Whenever a president travels, he or she takes a mini-White House with them, from bulletproof limousines to gaggles of aides. This can come in awfully handy when trouble happens, such as the terrorist attacks on 9/11 when George W. Bush was in Florida. Ronald Reagan was traveling in Asia when the Chernobyl nuclear plant in what was then the Soviet Union blew up in 1986.

Foreign trips are expensive but are a staple of presidential duties. India is a rising economy power. It is next to -- and has an intense rivalry with -- one of the world's most dangerous countries, Pakistan. It can be a counterweight to threats from China. Any president is going to deal with India.

Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim majority nation. South Korea is the site of a G-20 global economic summit. Japan is hosting the annual Asian economic summit, which Obama's predecessors also attended. There's no evidence that Obama's team is spending any more money than its predecessors, taking inflation into account.

Yes, these gigs will cost money. But $200 million a day? Not even close.

One other thing to keep in mind: The Secret Service is not going to let anything happen to a president overseas if they can help it. They're going to do -- and spend -- whatever it takes. That's just a fact of life.

One last thing: The media organizations accompanying Obama will pay their own expenses.

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All presidential trips are expensive, without a doubt. But then again, let's not forget who was the most traveled President ? Oh, that's right, George W. Bush.....

Congratulations for representing the naive, gullible and incompetent Republican base. YOU are exactly who the Republicans bank on......

GAR
11-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Glen Beck is such a liar! He should pay closer attention to Yahoo and USA Today's source.. I've been hoodwinked again.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-04-2010, 08:48 PM
Just so I understand: Every media outlet that's NOT named Fox News has a liberal bias ??

knuckleboner
11-04-2010, 08:58 PM
anybody who believes that glenn beck is after the truth, rather than the almighty dollar has absolutely been hoodwinked. but it's cool. as long as you enjoy giving your money to beck and he enjoys taking it, then it's no skin off my back.

GAR
11-05-2010, 12:37 AM
Fox News was rated #1 in the election news cycle! Must be doing something right.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 04:11 AM
I hope Obama likes India and stays there. He can even keep Air Force One because getting rid of him will save more money than the plane is worth.

sadaist
11-05-2010, 10:52 AM
Fox News was rated #1 in the election news cycle! Must be doing something right.

What they did was have Brett Baier & Shepard Smith do the hard news about the election. Those guys are straight news guys. I can't even think of anyone respectable from ANY other network or channel. That's how you build respect and shut down your critics. Sure Hannity, Beck, and O'Reilly are on the right, but they weren't the ones given the task of covering the election results.

Do things correctly and you don't have to yell & scream to draw viewership. It will just happen.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 12:56 PM
So we all know Obama is a prick. Old news. I want to hear solutions to our problems. How are we going to cut our massive spending and what are we going to do about bringing industry and jobs back so we can pay down this huge debt both the Republicans and Democrats have ran up?

Satan
11-05-2010, 01:14 PM
What they did was have Brett Baier & Shepard Smith do the hard news about the election. Those guys are straight news guys.

Uh..... I wouldn't describe Shep Smith as a straight news guy. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Carloscda
11-05-2010, 01:51 PM
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GAR
11-05-2010, 02:15 PM
What they did was have Brett Baier & Shepard Smith do the hard news about the election.

I watch Greta Van Susteren's show on Fox, she treats all her interviews no matter how wacky and biased the same and although I don't watch much else on Fox just clicking in and out thru the day, I suspect Brett and Shepard run a similarly clean guest policy.

I clicked in and out of PMSNBC as well a little bit, but it got to the point where I could predict within the minute how soon I was gonna reach for the remote once their shows break down into a "The View" without any Elisabeth Hasselbeck in sight.. BUSHBUSHBUSH all day, all night. When it gets so blind and vacant over there, everytime I skip thru, it's just not worth it to return and it's laughable.

GAR
11-05-2010, 02:25 PM
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34 warships = 10 percent of the Navy plus all the communications logistics, probably bumps the personnel overhead to about 50,000 people and probably double the initial 2billion dollar estimate.

Anderson Cooper, to take your reference, cites both White House spokeshole, and a Navy spokeshole who both say the same thing: we're not going to give out the estimated cost, but it's comparable to other Presidential outings and nowhere near this 2b figure.

Well, lie about one thing, you probably lied about the other right? Since when did any past president take a delegation of 2,000 fucking people and occupy an entire 5-star hotel for a week and a half?

It's mindboggling, in both the scope, and the spin both by CNN and the government.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-05-2010, 05:58 PM
34 warships = 10 percent of the Navy plus all the communications logistics, probably bumps the personnel overhead to about 50,000 people and probably double the initial 2billion dollar estimate.


Are you listening to YOU ??

Don't you realize that what you're talking about is equivalent to 3 entire battle groups ?? Not that you have any first-hand knowledge of anything military....

Now I will say this: I would not be surprised at all if the current battle group that is ALWAYS SCHEDULED TO THE INDIAN OCEAN is situated a little closer to the coast of India, that's simply common sense..... But ships are constantly deployed to the I.O., they are ships homeported in San Diego, Bremerton, Pearl Harbor and Japan and rotate every six months.....

It's simply not realistic....

GAR
11-05-2010, 06:36 PM
The Taj Mahal is symbolic of a crumbled royal dynasty. Prophetic?

Carloscda
11-06-2010, 12:08 AM
Those on the right don't give a flying F**k about the truth when it come to this man & his family!

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GAR
11-08-2010, 12:05 AM
I find it amazing this president gets to have a sweet vacation and setup the export of more jobs to India while at the same time dodging the heat back home for the implosion of his party from STUPID halfbaked economic policies.