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Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 04:59 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40028929/ns/politics-decision_2010/

sadaist
11-05-2010, 05:17 PM
He ripped FOX owner Murdoch a few months ago for donating to Republican candidates. Stating FOX are shills for the GOP.

I wonder how that hypocrisy sandwich tastes today?

Shaping up to be a great week. :)

jhale667
11-05-2010, 05:39 PM
Hypocrisy? Not quite. Olbermann doesn't OWN the network, and as an employee he could contribute to any campaign he chose. It apparently wasn't prohibited by his contract, his boss is pissed because he didn't say "Mother may I"? Please.

Word is already he may not be back...hmm, wonder if he'll be an unannounced "special guest" on Bill Maher tonight?

http://bit.ly/cuae2F

Va Beach VH Fan
11-05-2010, 05:50 PM
Hypocrisy? Not quite. Olbermann doesn't OWN the network, and as an employee he could contribute to any campaign he chose. It apparently wasn't prohibited by his contract, his boss is pissed because he didn't say "Mother may I"? Please.

Exactly.

Rules are rules, though. Just because over 30 FOX personalities donated their time and money to endorse their candidates doesn't mean MSNBC should be able to do the same.

I think he'll be back. Some of wondering, though, if the Comcast/NBC merger may have anything to do with him coming back, I have no idea why or why not....

Satan
11-05-2010, 06:00 PM
Comcast is an extremely right wing company, and this Devil has no doubt that this is the first of many assaults against MSNBC's evening lineup from the extreme right. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

chefcraig
11-05-2010, 06:20 PM
I think he'll be back. Some of wondering, though, if the Comcast/NBC merger may have anything to do with him coming back, I have no idea why or why not....

Comcast is an extremely right wing company, and this Devil has no doubt that this is the first of many assaults against MSNBC's evening lineup from the extreme right. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

You should have seen how disproportionate the political ads were on Comcast cable in this area. Comcast runs their own ads, which are sold to advertisers and placed over national ads in the most amateurish way possible (the commercials often begin well after the national ad has started, and tend to cut off abruptly). The Comcast Republican ads ran roughly 2 to 1 over ads for Democrats. The company's ham-handed way of doing business can only lead to problems for NBC in the future.

GAR
11-05-2010, 06:26 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40028929/ns/politics-decision_2010/

FORD prepare for my whoo-hoo spam-fest when I have a chance to~!!

WHOO HOO

GAR
11-05-2010, 06:34 PM
Why they waited until the DNC lost its' footing, before FAILing this dildo, shows taste and perfect comedic timing.

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I'll be able to stomach the channel more often now.

Satan
11-05-2010, 06:44 PM
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) Statement on Olbermann Suspension
Friday, 05 November 2010 16:24 Press Release

WASHINGTON--(ENEWSPF)--November 5 - “It is outrageous that General Electric/MSNBC would suspend Keith Olbermann for exercising his constitutional rights to contribute to a candidate of his choice. This is a real threat to political discourse in America and will have a chilling impact on every commentator for MSNBC.

“We live in a time when 90 percent of talk radio is dominated by right-wing extremists, when the Republican Party has its own cable network (Fox) and when progressive voices are few and far between.

“At a time when the ownership of Fox news contributed millions of dollars to the Republican Party, when a number of Fox commentators are using the network as a launching pad for their presidential campaigns and are raising money right off the air, it is absolutely unacceptable that MSNBC suspended one of the most popular progressive commentators in the country.

“Is Rachel Maddow or Ed Schultz next? Is this simply a ‘personality conflict’ within MSNBC or is one of America’s major corporations cracking down on a viewpoint they may not like? Whatever the answer may be, Keith Olbermann should be reinstated immediately and allowed to present his point of view."

sadaist
11-05-2010, 07:13 PM
Maybe the boss would have just looked past this if Keith wasn't dead last in ratings. No one likes this creep. No one watches his show. He has become a laughing stock for just about everyone. Even John Stewart ripped him a new one. All Kieth does is spew hate & whines about everything.

Buh-bye Kieth.

Satan
11-05-2010, 07:37 PM
It's the hypocrisy, Sadie.

http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/qpmwoof/0804_scarboroough_333x410-1.jpg

Scarborough Attended Bush Election Rally: IOKIYAR
by Billionaires for Wealthcare
Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 03:06:28 PM PDT



Scarborough participated in a Bush election rally in Pensacola on August 10, 2004, while he was employed by MSNBC as host of the nightly news show "Scarborough Country".

Scarborough didn't cover the rally for MSNBC, but attended as a former Republican Congressman who represented Pensacola.

He sat immediately behind Bush, and Bush thanked him for his attendance during his speech.


* Billionaires for Wealthcare's diary :: ::
*

Joe Scarborough, host of the nightly ''Scarborough Country'' program, could be seen on news reports on Tuesday standing and applauding numerous times during the president's speech. Mr. Bush even cited him in his speech, saying he appreciated Mr. Scarborough's presence in the district he once served as a Republican congressman. ''I'm glad he did it,'' said Rick Kaplan, the president of MSNBC, said of Mr. Scarborough's appearance. ''It was good for the profile of the show to remind people he has an inside view of politics.''

New York Times - Aug 11, 2004

MSNBC went on to say ItsOKtoCheerleadBush because Scarborugh's show was an opinion show, unlike Hardball. Yet anyone familiar with Scarborough's show knows it was structurally no different than Hardball. In fact, they would run in the same evening time block, complementing each other.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/5/174214/622

Scarborough, btw, is still employed by MSNBC to this day.

Nitro Express
11-05-2010, 08:09 PM
Hypocrisy? Not quite. Olbermann doesn't OWN the network, and as an employee he could contribute to any campaign he chose. It apparently wasn't prohibited by his contract, his boss is pissed because he didn't say "Mother may I"? Please.

Word is already he may not be back...hmm, wonder if he'll be an unannounced "special guest" on Bill Maher tonight?

http://bit.ly/cuae2F

In the television industry there is usually motives beyond the obvious. It could be there was bad blood between Olbermann and the executives or someone on the board of directors just didn't like him. I many cases they are looking for an convenient excuse to fire you plus, Olbermann wasn't pulling in the ratings the way he used to. Who knows.

I once worked for Pepsico. It was in my contract I could be fired for drinking a Coke product. I'm sure Olbermann's contract was a long one full of all sorts of petty shit like that. Got to love corporations.

sadaist
11-05-2010, 10:41 PM
It's the hypocrisy, Sadie.

Scarborough Attended Bush Election Rally

Scarborough didn't cover the rally for MSNBC, but attended as a former Republican Congressman who represented Pensacola.




Did he donate money? One month after he chastised others for doing the same exact thing?


Either way. Defend Olbermann all you want. The guy is a fucking asshole. Not just the right feel that way either. People hate this guy. He definitely could use a few doses of comeuppance. He sucked at ESPN and he sucks at MSNBC. His ratings are always dredging the bottom of the barrel. It takes a special type of person to sit and watch an hour of hate, name calling & whining 5 days a week.

Hopefully Matthews & Maddow will be next. the childish shit they pulled during election coverage was just way past anything even remotely "journalistic". Yeah I know, they are commentators who express their opinions. But when a news story breaks, do you really need to watch their shows to know what their opinions will be? So fucking predictable. You name the news item and I bet any one of us familiar with these idiots could replicate what their exact opinions on the matter would be.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-05-2010, 10:56 PM
People may not like Olbermann's delivery, but I definitely would not call criticism of the Bush Administration and the fraud that is Fox News whining....

He and Bill Maher were the only ones who had the balls to do it....

Satan
11-05-2010, 11:22 PM
Posted: Today,7:55 P.M. EDT | By Matt Taibbi
Olbermann Suspension is Lunacy

Just quickly: I just found out about the suspension of Keith Olbermann for making political contributions. NBC apparently has some policy prohibiting journalists from donating to candidates, so they suspended him indefinitely without pay.

I went online and read the news and found the inevitable commentary by ostensible experts on journalistic ethics, who are all lining up to whale on Olbermann. One quote I found in this Bloomberg piece:

"Journalists who work for a news organization have an ethical responsibility to honor their guidelines and standards,” said Bob Steele who teaches journalism ethics at Poynter Institute in St. Petersburg, Florida. “If NBC and MSNBC spelled out those guidelines clearly and Olbermann violated those guidelines, then he should pay the price."

He should pay the price? Is Bob Steele kidding? What the hell is wrong with people?

We had a whole generation of journalists who sat by and did nothing while, for instance, George Bush led us into an idiotic war on a lie, plus thousands more who spent day after day collecting checks by covering Britney's hair and Tiger's text messages and other stupidities while the economy blew up and two bloody wars went on mostly unexamined... and it's Keith Olbermann who should "pay the price" for being unethical? Because, and let me get this straight, he donated money, privately, to politicians?

This is absurd even by GE's standards. There is no reason, not even a theoretical one, why any journalist should be prevented from having political opinions and participating in election campaigns in his spare time. The policy would be ridiculous even if we were talking about an evening news anchor -- because the only "ethical" question here is the issue of NBC wanting to preserve the appearance of impartiality and being unable to do so, because political contributions happen to be public record and impossible to hide from viewers.

Again, that would be true even if we were talking about Brian Williams or Tom Brokaw, someone from whom viewers expect a certain level of impartiality. But what Olbermann does is advocacy journalism and it's not exactly a secret. NBC punishing Olbermann for donating to Democratic candidates is like Hugh Hefner fining the Playmate of the Year for showing ankle. It's completely and utterly retarded.

These periodic spaz attacks the people in our business have over obscure and usually completely made-up ethical controversies -- often over this whole "objectivity" issue, which provides a seemingly endless source of false piety for some of the more obnoxious journo-ethicists -- are really irritating. I'm biased, obviously, because I'm a guest on the show, but this is beyond stupid. And by the way, has anyone checked the donation lists for CNBC anchors? I'm guessing a few of those have shelled out to the Rs. What's the deal, GE?


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/matt-taibbi/blogs/TaibbiData_May2010/231499/83512

sadaist
11-06-2010, 12:01 AM
He and Bill Maher were the only ones who had the balls to do it....


No. Maher has balls cause he actually will go on FOX now & then. Kieth doesn't have it in him to be face to face with someone who will actually shut him down.

sadaist
11-06-2010, 12:06 AM
There is no reason, not even a theoretical one, why any journalist should be prevented from having political opinions and participating in election campaigns in his spare time.


Spare time? Olbermann had Grijalva on his show at the same time he coughed up a check to his campaign. But I'm sure he asked the candidate some really, really tough questions.

Carloscda
11-06-2010, 12:12 AM
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GAR
11-06-2010, 12:35 AM
All Kieth does is spew hate & whines about everything.

I'm trying to think of who else besides Hannity on Fox News is equally acidic or smarmy and placative as Olbermann used to be on PMSNBC and I can't think of one.

Glen Beck's show is more an edu-tainment feature than a news commentary, and he's definately not proposing to be doing Keith's style of journalism.

sadaist
11-06-2010, 02:28 AM
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Rachel just spent 6 of 7 minutes blaming FOX on a segment about Keiths suspension.


A few points I would like to make to Rachel here, and anyone that followed along in agreement with her.

1 - FOX News is a different company than NBC. Every company is entitled to make it's own set of rules & guidelines for employees to follow.

2 - You admit Keith broke the rules that are clearly laid out by your employer. Even you said you understood them clearly.

3 - Your colleague got in trouble for breaking "clearly" laid out rules. Why in a 7 minute segment did you spend 1 minute speaking of him and 6 minutes trying to drag a different company in to this? What FOX allows has zero to do with Keith...see #1.

4 - Let Keith back and forget about this forever? When we regular people get in trouble for breaking the rules, we have to take the punishment. And if we get fired, that follows us around on every application we fill out for life "Have you ever been terminated from a position?"


Keith broke the rules. He is receiving his punishment. He will be back. It isn't like a month or so of unpaid time off is going to hurt this millionaire. You want the story to die? Have Keith come out publicly and sincerely apologize for breaking the rule, rather than have his colleagues try to divert the attention off to FOX yet again.

FOX haunts these people, which I find hilarious. In all my years of watching FOX I have never heard MSNBC mentioned more than maybe 1 minute total over 3 years...and never heard anything about their hosts. Just the difference in overall ratings between the networks.

sadaist
11-06-2010, 02:30 AM
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She's a dead ringer for Fred Savage.

http://www.the-planets.com/star-biography/Fred-Savage-Biography-2.jpg

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 02:42 AM
I doubt they would have suspended Keith Olbermann if he was pulling good ratings. His ratings were great when he had Bush to bash but lost his best source of material when boring Obama took office. Follow the money. Keith's time had come and they found an excuse to get rid of him.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 02:48 AM
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This was the height of Olbermann's show when the worst Republicans in US history were in control and he went after him. What killed Keith is when the worst Democrats in US history took power he didn't go after them in the same manner. But hey, it's MSNBC.

sadaist
11-06-2010, 03:23 AM
I doubt they would have suspended Keith Olbermann if he was pulling good ratings. His ratings were great when he had Bush to bash but lost his best source of material when boring Obama took office. Follow the money. Keith's time had come and they found an excuse to get rid of him.


And that is 100% what is behind this. Either they were looking for a way to cut his contract, or when he comes back this will hype his show a couple ratings points. But Keith needs to comment on the news...not be in it.

GAR
11-06-2010, 04:10 AM
I agree: these past 2 years he's had LOADS of source material - right off the front pages!

Here's my own personal joke, nobody's picked up on right after the Holy One took office:

Joe Biden gives a dog that's 3/4's black, to his kids, who are also 3/4's black.

Now, Obama could have denied the pun-gift. ALSO Biden could have given a dog of any other color or colors. But that jokey bastard gave 'em not just a black n white dog, but one thats of similar mix as the girls.

If Olbermann wanted to hold his ratings, all he had to do was take notice of what's going on in real White House life!

- like the dog
- like Michelle's horrid faux-JCPenny wardrobe
- like the White House kitchen vs the token vegetable garden
- like the pending return of Jimmy Carter's solar panels on the roof

Stuff like that's obvious humor fodder of the absurd and barbaric sort he's known for. But he :::heart::: the Pres too much to keep his job.

Have a nice retirement, Asshole. Never stomached your show, never plan to view the reruns.. fukkov~!!

GAR
11-06-2010, 04:15 AM
I bet Rachel Maddow is pleased as punch! That means she either moves up, or is the next in line to go if she doesn't change course.

ELVIS
11-06-2010, 10:27 AM
Nobody was watching Overstuffed, and nobody watches Madcow...

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 12:17 PM
Nobody was watching Overstuffed, and nobody watches Madcow...

Yup. When people have lost their jobs, had the price of healthcare spike, lose their homes and these smug overpaid blow mouths just blast one side of the problem but never go after the other side, it's obvious and old. They are just cheerleaders for the Democratic party no matter what they do to the average American or how bad they screw us. The format worked when we had a corrupt Republican White House but it doesn't work with a corrupt Democratic White House.

It seems to be the ratings go to the network who constantly slams the current crooks in office. Right now it's the Democrats and FOX has stolen why MSNBC had and all they do at MSNBC is whine and cry and nobody likes a loser that whines and crys.

they had a good run but failed to change with the times and that is what killed them. Olbermann stuck with his old format and it was dated as soon as Obama took office.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Madcow failed miserably in the ratings when she was on radio. She will get the ax next if she doesn't pull in the ratings. She's smart and a good interviewer but she needs to go to a more neutral format. Tooting the liberal horn is going to be suicide.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 01:02 PM
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This is my idea of the perfect television host. She's so hot you just about shoot a load just watching her show.

Satan
11-06-2010, 02:29 PM
And that is 100% what is behind this. Either they were looking for a way to cut his contract, or when he comes back this will hype his show a couple ratings points. But Keith needs to comment on the news...not be in it.

Seems that Murdoch employee/PNAC founding member Bill Kristol disagrees with you...........

Keep Keith!
On Olbermann’s unjust suspension.
William Kristol
November 5, 2010 2:50 PM

MSNBC’s suspension of Keith Olbermann is ludicrous.

First, he donated money to candidates he liked. He didn’t take money, or favors, in a way that influenced his reporting.

Second, he’s not a reporter. It’s an opinion show. If Olbermann wants to put his money where his mouth is, more power to him.

Third, GE, the corporate parent of MSNBC, gives money to political organizations. GE executives and, I’m sure, NBC executives give money. Why can’t Olbermann?

Perhaps Olbermann violated NBC News “policy and standards.” But NBC doesn’t have real news standards for MSNBC—otherwise the channel wouldn’t exist. It’s a little strange to get all high and mighty now.

But there’s now a Republican House, and perhaps GE is trying to curry favor by dumping Olbermann?

Republicans of the world, show you believe in the free expression of opinion! Tell the crony corporatists at NBC—keep Keith!

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/keep-keith_514980.html

chefcraig
11-06-2010, 02:49 PM
I'm having trouble fathoming exactly why I'm supposed to feel some sort of moral indignation or outrage about this situation. I mean to me, it comes down to one simple concept, that of accountability. Olbermann was free to do as he chooses with regard to a campaign contribution, providing he simply notify his boss beforehand. Through either a sense of arrogance or plain old ignorance, he chose not to, and is currently paying a penalty for it. So why has this become such a big issue? How is not playing by the rules and failing to accept responsibility for one's own actions all of a sudden a cause for people to start creating blog columns and devoting news space to? Enough already.

The fact is, I like Olbermann. Yet even to me, over these past 18 months he has started to turn into the very sort of hypocritical talking head that he has spent a career railing against. There is a just as much smug self righteousnesses in some of his rants lately that at times you could swear you were listening to FOX news or AM radio. Perhaps that is the current nature of the beast for cable news channels these days, and if so, it's a sorry thing to witness. Even then, thumbing your nose at your boss by failing to check beforehand if your own actions could be problematic is NOT a reason for people to rally around you in support after you've done so and the result shat back in your face.

Kristy
11-06-2010, 03:11 PM
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This is my idea of the perfect television host. She's so hot you just about shoot a load just watching her show.

Yeah, who actually would give a fuck she has zero credibility journalistic skills? Just flip that hair, show those surgically-enhance boobs to a gaggle of even more dumbed-down $6 Latte drinkers known as her audience and the suits can claim victory in the ratings game.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Most people don't get their news from these shows anyways and the people who watch them of a steady basis are opinionated. It's showbiz and all that matters is ratings. Journalists with real credibility were tossed off the buss years ago, if you want to find one of those, you aren't going to find one on any of the networks. It's all niche marketing. As far as reading the tele prompter and looking fabulous while doing it, man Robin Meade has them all beat to tears.

Nitro Express
11-06-2010, 03:28 PM
The fact is, I like Olbermann. Yet even to me, over these past 18 months he has started to turn into the very sort of hypocritical talking head that he has spent a career railing against.

In short his act is no longer entertaining. He hasn't made me laugh in a long time. Some of his rants against Bush were pretty funny and it caught our attention and now the guy just seems like a biter angry moron. We all probably have one of those living in our home and don't need to turn on the television to see another one. LOL!

BigBadBrian
11-07-2010, 06:06 AM
http://libertyledger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lberman_260x220.jpg

BigBadBrian
11-07-2010, 06:08 AM
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This is my idea of the perfect television host. She's so hot you just about shoot a load just watching her show.

Agreed. :doggystyle:

BigBadBrian
11-07-2010, 06:09 AM
Yeah, who actually would give a fuck she has zero credibility journalistic skills? Just flip that hair, show those surgically-enhance boobs to a gaggle of even more dumbed-down $6 Latte drinkers known as her audience and the suits can claim victory in the ratings game.

Hey Skank, you're jealous, huh? :lmao:

sadaist
11-07-2010, 08:33 AM
http://libertyledger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lberman_260x220.jpg

Dude, that is fricken hilarious!

:biggrin::):hee:

chefcraig
11-07-2010, 11:57 AM
http://libertyledger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lberman_260x220.jpg

And after a few short years, several buckets of Kentucky Fried Chicken and Happy Meals later...

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5581/peteru.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/i/peteru.jpg/)

FORD
11-07-2010, 04:39 PM
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/olbermann.png

GAR
11-07-2010, 04:49 PM
I'm hoping that exhile becomes permanent.

FORD
11-07-2010, 05:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=midw6kPOwgM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzUO_s2FHA

Kristy
11-07-2010, 08:50 PM
Hey Skank, you're jealous, huh? :lmao:

Of what exactly, Little Penis Drain? The fact that you have no outside social contact other than your repetitive and tedious shit-stirring you do on this site or that you're over 40, overweight, and still live in your parent's basement listening to Rush all day?

Kristy
11-07-2010, 08:51 PM
I'm hoping that exhile becomes permanent.

Looks like your grammatical skills are.

Va Beach VH Fan
11-07-2010, 09:42 PM
He's back on Tuesday......

STATEMENT REGARDING KEITH OLBERMANN - SUNDAY, NOV. 7

From Phil Griffin, President of MSNBC:

After several days of deliberation and discussion, I have determined that suspending Keith through and including Monday night's program is an appropriate punishment for his violation of our policy. We look forward to having him back on the air Tuesday night.

ELVIS
11-07-2010, 10:13 PM
Hahaha...

He should walk...

sadaist
11-07-2010, 11:13 PM
Just as I suspected. Attempt at ratings boost. it will work for a few days anyhow. people watched Friday to see what was said about him. People will watch the day he comes back to see what he says. Ratings will plummet back down as soon as this story cycles through.

GAR
11-07-2010, 11:22 PM
See, they're not serious at all about journalism at MSNBC.

They created a news item of a FAIL opinion writer because their writers cannot relate the news, and found this to be more interesting.

Satan
11-08-2010, 12:59 AM
Over 300,000 signatures on a petition to reinstate Keith, and Griffin's voice mail flooded with calls. The people have spoken.

If only it were always that easy.

sadaist
11-08-2010, 02:49 AM
Over 300,000 signatures on a petition to reinstate Keith, and Griffin's voice mail flooded with calls. The people have spoken.

If only it were always that easy.



Yeah. Cause we all know how you can only sign an online petition once.

And how many voice mails is "flooded"? My in-box I consider flooded when I have 6 or more new messages I need to listen to. I think it only will hold 10 or maybe 15 before it is full anyways.

Whatever. I really don't care what Keith did, or what his employer did. The only thing that is shitty is how Rachel mackerel-breath Maddow spent an entire segment blaming FOX for it.

BigBadBrian
11-08-2010, 07:17 AM
He's back on Tuesday......



I guess that'll make you and his 10 other fans happy. :biggrin:

BigBadBrian
11-08-2010, 07:21 AM
Of what exactly,

I knew it, Ms Schizo. :biggrin:

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 11:03 AM
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He needs a longer nose. Maybe it gets bigger when he see another man bend over.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 11:11 AM
I'm hoping that exhile becomes permanent.

Yup. He's exiled and is probably going to roll down the line.

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Va Beach VH Fan
11-08-2010, 12:28 PM
I guess that'll make you and his 10 other fans happy. :biggrin:

To be honest, I find myself watching Maddow more closely than Olbermann... I mean, I do watch the show bits and pieces, but I like to watch Maddow regularly.....

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Keith needs to grow the mustache back.

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GAR
11-08-2010, 12:55 PM
Over 300,000 signatures on a petition to reinstate Keith, and Griffin's voice mail flooded with calls. The people have spoken.

If only it were always that easy.

How did you pull that off - autodialer?

GAR
11-08-2010, 01:01 PM
Keith needs to grow the mustache back.

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G-d, what a dick. He castigated and shat on every single story subject in that clip - what self-absorbed egomaniac.

What.
Thee.
FWOCKK.

FORD
11-08-2010, 01:16 PM
Sanders wants halt to Comcast-NBC deal after Olbermann suspension
By Michael O'Brien - 11/08/10 12:38 PM ET

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said he would look to block a merger between NBC and Comcast, citing the decision last week by MSNBC to suspend liberal anchor Keith Olbermann.

Sanders said Comcast's attempt to acquire NBC from General Electric would result in "another media giant run by a Republican supporter of George W. Bush."

The Vermont senator, an independent who caucuses with Democrats, has loudly criticized MSNBC's suspension of Olbermann last week for violating company policies when he donated to three Democratic candidates. The suspension was imposed Friday, and Olbermann will be back on the air Tuesday night.

Sanders expressed concern that the precedent set by that suspension would result in MSNBC becoming more like Fox News, which is part of the Newscorp empire run by Rupert Murdoch. Liberals complain the coverage by many Newscorp properties tilts to the right, mirroring many of Murdoch's own opinions.

The senator pointed to Comcast's COO Stephen B. Burke's history as a major fundraiser for former President George W. Bush as a reason why the deal, which has drawn criticism from other lawmakers for different reasons, should be blocked.

“As Vermont’s senator, I intend to do all that I can do to stop this merger. There already is far too much media concentration in this country," Sanders said. "We do not need another media giant run by a Republican supporter of George W. Bush. That is the lesson we should learn from the Keith Olbermann suspension.”


Source:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128175-sanders-wants-halt-to-comcast-nbc-deal-after-olbermann-suspension
The contents of this site are © 2010 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsidiary of News Communications, Inc.

FORD
11-08-2010, 01:22 PM
I'm 100% in agreement with Bernie Sanders on this one. Even if there was not a Busheep running Comca$t, the company controls far too much as it is. NBC/Universal, in it's current configuration is even too big of a company, with a dozen or so TV Networks under its umbrella, not to mention all the other media holdings (movies, music, etc.)

BOTH companies should be forced to split up just as AT&T was back in the Carter & Reagan years. Merging the two would create a monopoly even bigger than the original AT&T was before they were forced to split.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 01:27 PM
Of course MSNBC wants to become more like FOX NEWS. FOX is killing them in the ratings and CNN's middle of the road format is losing ratings as well. Hate them if you will FOX's conservative format is willing the ratings war and in television if something is working you want a piece of it. Expect MSNBC to be more conservative in the future because that seems to be what viewers want and you have to have viewers to sell advertising. Either the liberals don't watch much television or they get their news from another source. The block of voters on welfare who are bused in to vote each election probably have no idea who Keith Olbermann is anyways. I doubt the fat lady who drinks 40oz Smirnoff Ice knows who he is either but she is a proud Democrat supporter.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 01:30 PM
Howard Stern makes a good point why people are turning their backs on the Democrat Party.

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Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 01:37 PM
I hear you on the anti-trust Ford. The more competition the better. We are seeing monopolies form on everything but the Democrats have enabled this collusion as much as the Republicans have. They both are dirty and banker's bailout show this.

GAR
11-08-2010, 02:02 PM
I'm 100% in agreement with Bernie Sanders on this one. Even if there was not a Busheep running Comca$t...

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11-08-2010, 02:19 PM
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FORD
11-08-2010, 02:22 PM
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GAR
11-08-2010, 02:28 PM
Howard Stern makes a good point why people are turning their backs on the Democrat Party.

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Not to be oppositional but the fact is that what Howard's relating to is the media-consolitation effect after Bush 1's deregulation of media-ownership rules, and that ball started rolling during the Reagan years the same as ABA lobby started their part towards banking deregulation.

The FCC has always been Howard Stern's enemy because he's a foulmouth. But the agency wouldn't be so powerful today unless the Democrats looked the other way on shenanigans hoping that they too get to play around in the money when it's their turn at the wheel.

At some point we're going to have to experience a painful rollback to re-regulation: banks will have to split up, media companies will have to split up, and the public at large is gonna be the one to pay the bill for that mark my words even though they've both caused the problems in the first place.

FORD
11-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Not to be oppositional but the fact is that what Howard's relating to is the media-consolitation effect after Bush 1's deregulation of media-ownership rules, and that ball started rolling during the Reagan years the same as ABA lobby started their part towards banking deregulation.

The FCC has always been Howard Stern's enemy because he's a foulmouth. But the agency wouldn't be so powerful today unless the Democrats looked the other way on shenanigans hoping that they too get to play around in the money when it's their turn at the wheel.

At some point we're going to have to experience a painful rollback to re-regulation: banks will have to split up, media companies will have to split up, and the public at large is gonna be the one to pay the bill for that mark my words even though they've both caused the problems in the first place.

Holy shit :confused13:

Did GAyR just post something that made sense??

sadaist
11-08-2010, 03:35 PM
Keith needs to grow the mustache back.

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Damn. Olberman, Lampley & Bree Walker all on the same newscast in LA? Weird. Bree is the chick with the fucked up hands from birth. Still extremely hot. She used to be in San Diego before she broke into the LA market. We brought her back several years ago and it was a big deal in San Diego. Always a classy chick. That she was teamed with Olberman & Lampley (her husband for a while) is just a shame as neither of those guys has class.

But this clip just shows that being mean-spirited & full of vinegar with nothing nice to say is Keiths shtick. He has based his entire career on making smart ass negative comments on anything he reports on. He is a lowlight reporter rather than a highlight reporter. Thats fun once in a while...but not 5 nights a week.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 03:46 PM
Yeah. I noticed it too from this old clip of Olbermann. Even when he was doing sports it was just a smart ass tear down of everyone and not much sports reporting at all. I mean I bought into it when Bush was president and Keith's rips were funny but then the political climate changed and he wouldn't rip Democrats the way he ripped Republicans. I saw the bias and frankly his act got old. Television is a fickle medium and to be frank, we just got bored of Keith Olbermann who basically as we can see, has been doing the same thing his whole career.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 03:55 PM
Everything is getting consolidated. Banks, media companies, trucking companies. Name an industry and it's going on plus the outsourcing. On top of that the government has been composed of politicians being bought off or even being former employees of the companies themselves. Joe Public is waking up to the corruption when they saw investment banks like Goldmann Sachs was above the law by buying the law with money stolen from Joe Public. Now the politicians are going to feel more public eyes on them than when times were good.

So I think what we will see is not a swing to Republican dominant control or Democrats dominant control (both abused their power) but a compromise in the middle. Now Washington can stalemate and watch the whole country go to shit or they can agree to do what is necessary to get the economy going again instead of just bailing out rich friends and grabbing all the power you can. Because the American people want a real industrialized economy again. We want reals jobs and we are tired of being taxed to death and all the regulation that rich people are exempt from.

GAR
11-08-2010, 04:28 PM
Holy shit :confused13:

Did GAyR just post something that made sense??

Stating that deregulation started with the Republicans supports the idea that Communism is the ultimate DNC goal here because that's one part of corporate irresponsibility that provides them an "out" while they quietly add to it.

Clinton made things worse, then here comes Bush after him continuing the idea that floats market monopolies as a free-market approach to governance.

As hip as our half-Black SCROTUS is supposed to be with technology and media he's not said one damn thing about these most obvious of monopolies, and it affects news, music, advertising and our whole culture of US communications. He's bought and paid.. he cannot do anything about it.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 04:46 PM
Well look at what happened when the Democrats finally got 100% control. They wasted no time trying to grab everything and doing all they could to run independent businesses out of business, while letting the big guys like Goldmann Sachs be above the law. They wanted amnesty so they couldn't be voted out and they wanted cap and trade and the healthcare law to control the American public.

GAR
11-08-2010, 05:08 PM
They wasted no time trying to grab everything and doing all they could...

They took majority in Congress when, 2006? 2008?

It took years to write these 2500 page bills.. years. They planned all this, roleplayed the scenarios of "what would the Republicans do" thru thinktank subcommitees behind closed doors then - voila - the minute thier Chosen One is empowered they drop these bills down as if to say "oh we know what to do here" when it should have been more like "we planned this out and want to do THIS here."

This election I voted for anything-but a Democrat when in the past I chose the best candidate if he happened to be a Dem that was okay.. because I can't trust a Dem anymore when they are pocketing these attacks you don't know about.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 06:15 PM
Holy shit :confused13:

Did GAyR just post something that made sense??

I must admit. Gar's post was brilliant. He didn't slap his chest and call the Democrats communists but gave a very intelligent counter to my Howard Stern post. Very well done Gar. You get a gold star.

Nitro Express
11-08-2010, 06:20 PM
The big money always has a plan and bills written. They are just looking for a machine to pass them into law. Democrat or Republican. They buy both sides and jockey their bought off eye candy into position hoping they will kick one in the goal. I think the pain to the public is oh my god, we have to stop these people but then the only thing they can do is vote for the opposing bought off shill. What really needs to happen is breaking the iron grip of government and the big corporations and banks, but who does this? That's the golden question.

PETE'S BROTHER
11-08-2010, 06:25 PM
The big money always has a plan and bills written. They are just looking for a machine to pass them into law. Democrat or Republican. They buy both sides and jockey their bought off eye candy into position hoping they will kick one in the goal. I think the pain to the public is oh my god, we have to stop these people but then the only thing they can do is vote for the opposing bought off shill. What really needs to happen is breaking the iron grip of government and the big corporations and banks, but who does this? That's the golden question.

the chinese will take care of it:(

FORD
11-08-2010, 06:35 PM
I must admit. Gar's post was brilliant. He didn't slap his chest and call the Democrats communists but gave a very intelligent counter to my Howard Stern post. Very well done Gar. You get a gold star.

But as you can see, it didn't last very long......

GAR
11-08-2010, 06:55 PM
Both of you do realize a) sources of independant news are diminishing and should be declared an endangered species by the end of the year, and b) Keith Olbermann works for a multinational global corporation that only embraces ONE party.

ONE. What I do is view a number of sources of info, not saying what anyone else should do but if you're gonna suck on Olbermann's and Maddow's limp-wristed rants and slants you not only are getting limited input, you're missing the point of watching any news show entirely. But some here like that kind of thing..

Va Beach VH Fan
11-08-2010, 07:23 PM
He just issued this statement:

A STATEMENT TO THE VIEWERS OF COUNTDOWN by Keith Olbermann I want to sincerely thank you for the honor of your extraordinary and ground-rattling support. Your efforts have been integral to the remedying of these recent events, and the results should remind us of the power of individuals spontaneously acting together to correct injustices great or small. I would also like to acknowledge with respect the many commentators and reporters, including those with whom my politics do not overlap, for their support. I also wish to apologize to you viewers for having precipitated such anxiety and unnecessary drama. You should know that I mistakenly violated an inconsistently applied rule – which I previously knew nothing about – that pertains to the process by which such political contributions are approved by NBC. Certainly this mistake merited a form of public acknowledgment and/or internal warning, and an on-air discussion about the merits of limitations on such campaign contributions by all employees of news organizations. Instead, after my representative was assured that no suspension was contemplated, I was suspended without a hearing, and learned of that suspension through the media. You should also know that I did not attempt to keep any of these political contributions secret; I knew they would be known to you and the rest of the public. I did not make them through a relative, friend, corporation, PAC, or any other intermediary, and I did not blame them on some kind of convenient 'mistake' by their recipients. When a website contacted NBC about one of the donations, I immediately volunteered that there were in fact three of them; and contrary to much of the subsequent reporting, I immediately volunteered to explain all this, on-air and off, in the fashion MSNBC desired. I genuinely look forward to rejoining you on Countdown on Tuesday, to begin the repayment of your latest display of support and loyalty - support and loyalty that is truly mutual.

FORD
11-08-2010, 07:57 PM
Both of you do realize a) sources of independant news are diminishing and should be declared an endangered species by the end of the year, and b) Keith Olbermann works for a multinational global corporation that only embraces ONE party.



Absolutely false. MSNBC is only a "liberal" channel between the hours of 3 PM/8 PM Pacific (6 PM/11 PM Eastern) And even one of those hours doesn't count, as Tweety Matthews is all over the map himself, cheering on Repukes one day and Democrats the next.

The other 20 hours a day? You have the obviously right wing "Morning Joe", hosted by a Repuke ex congressman. You have Ratigan, who came over from the right wing CNBC network. Chuck Fraud has his own show, I think. Alan Greenspan's wife is a news anchor in the mid day. Pat Buchanan appears regularly on most of these shows, as does that cross eyed freak former BCE hack Ron Christie.

Not a Liberal network. Not even close.

GAR
11-08-2010, 08:53 PM
Sounds like you should come down to LA and get a job in PR for them in those 8 available hours of the day you aren't watching.

sadaist
11-08-2010, 11:20 PM
Pat Buchanan appears regularly on most of these shows

Not a Liberal network. Not even close.


So because they choose one of the craziest republicans to be on their shows, they are not liberal? they chose Pat on purpose because he is a fruit cake. That's like getting Axl Rose to be the rock representative to keep things balanced on a jazz station.

MSNBC has the most liberal people on-air anywhere in the time slots that matter.

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 10:10 AM
Early in 1997, Olbermann was suspended for two weeks after he made an unauthorized appearance on The Daily Show on Comedy Central with then-host and former ESPN colleague Craig Kilborn. At one point in the show, he referred to Bristol, Connecticut (ESPN's headquarters), as a "'Godforsaken place."[28] Later that year, Olbermann abruptly left ESPN under a cloud of controversy, apparently burning his bridges with the network's management;[29] this began a long and drawn-out feud between Olbermann and ESPN. Between 1997 and 2007, incidents between the two sides included Olbermann's publishing an essay on Salon.com in November 2002, titled "Mea Culpa", in which he stated: "I couldn't handle the pressure of working in daily long-form television, and what was worse, I didn't know I couldn't handle it."[30] The essay told of an instance when his former bosses remarked he had "too much backbone," a claim that is literally true, as Olbermann has six lumbar vertebrae instead of the normal five.[30]

I would say Keith Olbermann's huge ego probably gets the management pissed and yeah, you can do that when your ratings are good but as soon as you slip, your enemies find any little excuse to do you in. This is media company politics. It's an industry that uses people and tosses them away. It's been this way for years. Much like past their prime boxers or race horses, television personalities are the same deal.

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 10:14 AM
MSNBC has the most liberal people on-air anywhere in the time slots that matter.

It's called niche marketing. FOX plays the other card. It works when the opposite side holds political power and is a political disaster but fails when your side also sucks. The liberal not only did not deliver on any of their promises, they flat out lied to the public and intentionally screwed them. So why in the hell does the public want to watch biased cheerleading for the mob who just shook us up for more protection money?

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 10:19 AM
Absolutely false. MSNBC is only a "liberal" channel between the hours of 3 PM/8 PM Pacific (6 PM/11 PM Eastern) And even one of those hours doesn't count, as Tweety Matthews is all over the map himself, cheering on Repukes one day and Democrats the next.

The other 20 hours a day? You have the obviously right wing "Morning Joe", hosted by a Repuke ex congressman. You have Ratigan, who came over from the right wing CNBC network. Chuck Fraud has his own show, I think. Alan Greenspan's wife is a news anchor in the mid day. Pat Buchanan appears regularly on most of these shows, as does that cross eyed freak former BCE hack Ron Christie.

Not a Liberal network. Not even close.

I think MSNBC was middle of the road like CNN but that just doesn't pull in the ratings, FOX had the right wing so MSNBC decided to go left. It worked for awhile. In truth, it's about money. They will put whatever on the air that people want to watch. If the liberal thing continues to lose ratings, they will doe something else. I mean the History channel has shows that have nothing to do with history and MTV isn't about music anymore. Why? They constantly change their format trying to get ratings.

FORD
11-09-2010, 10:24 AM
Problem with the "History" channel is that it got bought up by Hearst Publishing. Hearst was printing right wing propaganda bullshit before Rupert Murdoch's grandfather was born.

FORD
11-09-2010, 10:35 AM
Comcast lobbyists are working the halls of Congress to pave the way for their big takeover of NBC. But there are way more of us than there are of them. We need to speak out now and stop this takeover.

Tell your elected officials to stand up to Comcast’s campaign for media domination. Congress is scheduling hearings on this issue right now. This is the time to make your voice heard.



Dear Member of Congress,

I am writing to voice my concern about the proposed Comcast-NBC merger.

The consequences of unchecked media consolidation are clear. As big media get bigger, we end up with fewer jobs in our newsrooms, more sensationalism and celebrity gossip instead of real news, and media that are out of touch with what our communities need.

Comcast's proposed takeover of NBC is particularly troubling. The largest cable and Internet access provider could also control one of the nation's largest movie and TV studios. That's too much power for one company, and it's a threat to competition and innovation at a moment when new forms of online video delivery are emerging.

Comcast wants to preserve the old cable model of higher prices, fewer choices and less innovation. This merger would also usher in a new wave of media giants as other companies scramble to match Comcast-NBC's market power.

This takeover will do nothing good for our communities, our state or our democracy. It's time Washington stood with the public and stopped the Comcast-NBC mega-merger.

You can sign this petition here (http://act2.freepress.net/cms/letter/comcast)

sadaist
11-09-2010, 10:36 AM
They constantly change their format trying to get ratings.


Reminds me of Metallica.

:(

BigBadBrian
11-09-2010, 11:12 AM
MSNBC is only a "liberal" channel between the hours of...

Not a Liberal network. Not even close.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

BigBadBrian
11-09-2010, 11:18 AM
He just issued this statement:

A STATEMENT TO THE VIEWERS OF COUNTDOWN by Keith Olbermann... blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

:barf: :barf: :barf:




Damn VB, do you work for this guy or what? And liberals have the audacity to criticize conservatives who watch Glenn Beck.

jhale667
11-09-2010, 01:36 PM
:barf: :barf: :barf:




Damn VB, do you work for this guy or what? And liberals have the audacity to criticize conservatives who watch Glenn Beck.


"Audacity"?? STFU, Brie. Your hero BecKKK is a hateful scumbag, Olbermann isn't.

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 01:55 PM
Reminds me of Metallica.

:(

It's the same deal. Or Vince Neil becoming an ice skater. As soon as Lemmy shows up on Dancing With the Stars, I'm grabbing the 45 and shooting myself in the head because the world has gone past the brink of being savable and why play the game any longer.

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 02:03 PM
"Audacity"?? STFU, Brie. Your hero BecKKK is a hateful scumbag, Olbermann isn't.

Every time I think of Glenn Beck this song pops into my head.

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GAR
11-09-2010, 02:15 PM
Problem with the "History" channel is that it got bought up by Hearst Publishing.

The problem with you is, you got owned by pharmacological pre-op gender reassignment therapy and the resultant synaptic degeneration from an combined overload of malsecreted urea, female hormones and cheap vibratory mailorder pegging instruments .

GAR
11-09-2010, 02:33 PM
"Audacity"?? STFU, Brie. Your hero BecKKK is a hateful scumbag, Olbermann isn't.

I've yet to see Olbermann trip over himself backwards to explain complex federal issues such as: ecoglobalism, the Constitution, separation of church and state VS degeneration of G-d IN state.. taxation theory, economics, progressivism, national debt theory and a half-dozen issues he often spends half a week series explaining.

I think last nights show was profoundly amazing - alot to take in.. and you don't get that with Olbermann. The only thing he challenges is your patience for slanderous rhetoric backed by nothing but namecalling - however if Glen Beck does the same thing he totally substantiates his position whether you respect it or not and I often come away from one of his shows going straight to wikipedia and looking this shit up he's talking about to see if its' true because some things he rants about initially seem quite far-fetched.

Olbermann - you don't learn anything from. He's monosyllabic, boorish, snooty and now that I've reconnected that pervstache from his Los Angeles past with his present putzy smirk, I recall where I'd seen this joker 20 years previously and recall why I feel leery regarding any fucking thing that comes from his mouth.

He's a cocksucker, he just keeps bitching about nothing and has only recently become critical of the Chosen One.
Glen Beck bitches alot too, but it's usually substantiated by fact, history and commentary most often by those in office themselves at the time his stories' subject matter occurred which is excellent sourcing in itself and an excellent coup to have both on an educational level and opinionated entertainment.

That being said, I don't really like his show - I usually avoid it if he's on one of his rants.. depending on the guests like I said, waiting for Greta Van Susterend who I think has the best show on the planet. The only reason I could interpret she's not doing 60 Minutes with her credibility is they can't afford her or won't go that high.

GAR
11-09-2010, 02:37 PM
Bluntly stated, the greatest chasm in contrast between Olbermann and Beck is Olbermann is pure commentary, while Beck is interesting.

WIN = Glen
FAG = Keith
BETTER = Greta
BEST = Tim Conway Jr.

sadaist
11-09-2010, 02:52 PM
... and why play the game any longer.


Cause I still has quarters..........




;)

sadaist
11-09-2010, 02:55 PM
BEST = Tim Conway Jr.


HAHA! I love that dude. Only heard him maybe a dozen times or so on the radio when I'm driving around. But he is awesomely funny. One of the times I heard him he was chatting with his dad. Always loved him since I was a kid. Funny gene is strong in that chain.

PETE'S BROTHER
11-09-2010, 02:57 PM
Cause I still has quarters..........




;)

i have a key, and can load free credits......:tongue0011:

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 03:04 PM
Cause I still has quarters..........




;)

Yeah but the politicians and banks keep stealing them.

PETE'S BROTHER
11-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Yeah but the politicians and banks keep taxing and feeing? them.

:biggrin:

GAR
11-09-2010, 03:07 PM
Only heard him maybe a dozen times or so on the radio when I'm driving around.

He's the quickest wit, I don't know what's going on with him right now, but he's been consistently brilliant the last 6 mos and they've been having sit-ins with him on the other top progs: Jon and Ken, and Bill Handel.

He's quicker, wittier and less negatory than either of the 3 and unless he gets one of their spots will probably move up to TV shortly. PLUS he's often runs Van Halen between breaks.. what more do you want?

Nitro Express
11-09-2010, 03:10 PM
You can play russian roulette with Glen Beck. Sometimes he's up at a chalk board with a pointer sounding like a high school government teacher and other times he's foaming at the mouth going into a seizure. Not exactly the type of person you would want to share a hotel room with.

GAR
11-09-2010, 03:55 PM
Beck's not my preferred show, I'm busy as it is enough to not have a TV schedule so fukkem.. but I tell you what, I have NO time, none for one-way limpwristed liberal handwringing editorials.

Olbermann's done, this was his sharkjump moment and it's downhill for him from here.. he's demostrated already that for him to go to any other network would not be their coup but their liability.

DIE
DIE
DIE

BigBadBrian
11-10-2010, 09:07 AM
"Audacity"?? STFU, Brie. Your hero BecKKK is a hateful scumbag, Olbermann isn't.

You can't see the obvious...a pity. :(

jhale667
11-10-2010, 08:18 PM
You can't see the obvious...a pity. :(

Not true - you're obviously a pitiful douchebag...see? :lmao:

GAR
11-11-2010, 05:46 AM
http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy32/Sonicbowling/TROLL.jpg

jhale667
11-11-2010, 10:13 AM
http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/home-simpson-fire-cereal-epic-fail.jpg

GAR
11-15-2010, 01:16 AM
Another guy who's insightful and breaks down this boring polito bullshit into laymans' terms very well is that Charles Krauthammer.

If he were to replace either Olbergashh OR Beck, I'd be glued the entire hour. I think his subtle irony is masterful most of the time, and comic genius everytime I see him on a discussion panel.

He needs his own show, but he is so soft-spoken and reserved I don't know that he'd ever get an entire slot all to himself.

It almost seems like they want you to be a real spectacle on purpose - just to hold 'em thru to commercial - and if you get your fundamental message across, that's a bonus but not primary goal.

I think Krauthammer would have to really work it out with some energetic writers to keep the push upbeat enough between but he could do it.