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DaveIsKing
06-08-2004, 02:11 PM
That's why they hate his guts.

Reagan called their bluff on "nuclear freeze". Reagan made them look like jive turkeys because America elected him in TWO consecutive landslides. In one of them he won 49 states, all but Minnesota and D.C.

Reagan didn't take any shit. Libbies love to take shit. So, they can't stand someone who doesn't. Libbies ought to love the Bushes. Bush I and Jr. are no Reagan...they dick around like LYNDON B. JOHNSON (a Libbie). Reagan didn't dick around. And liberals hated that!

knuckleboner
06-08-2004, 02:28 PM
reagan didn't take shit? ever?


please explain to me the spin on the U.S. pulling troops out of lebanon after our 241 marines were killed. i'm sure if a "libbie" was president, some might've implied that they took a little shit.

DaveIsKing
06-08-2004, 02:32 PM
Do you have ALL the facts about that situation, Knux?

I highly doubt it.

So, let us not be rash in assuming that our President did or didn't do the right thing in that particular situation.

But, how often have you heard from Libya lately??

knuckleboner
06-08-2004, 03:06 PM
libya? or lebanon?


either way, no. i defintely don't have all the facts. nor do you have all the facts about reagan and his administration. it shouldn't stop either one of us from debating.


you said reagan didn't take shit. i disagreed. when he thought it prudent to take out libya, he bombed qadafy. didn't take any shit.

when our boys got bombed in beruit, we left. now whether that was ultimately the right or wrong decision isn't the point. the point is that he took shit there.

but you're right, though. i don't know all the facts. and it very well may've been that it was the best decision possible at the time. or the lesser of 2 evils. because, after all, not taking any shit isn't ALWAYS the best move, in the long run.

JCOOK
06-08-2004, 03:57 PM
KILLEM ALL AND LET DAVE SORT IT OUT!

DaveIsKing
06-08-2004, 05:22 PM
Ok, knuckles...EVERYONE takes shit at one time or another.

So, Point for you.

However, I should've said, "Reagan didn't take MUCH shit."

And many other Presidents did.

Such as Clinton, Carter, Bush, & Bush II.

Bush II is leading a Lyndon Johnson-esque war in Iraq.

FORD
06-08-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by DaveIsKing


Bush II is leading a Lyndon Johnson-esque war in Iraq.

If only he would come to the same wise conclusion that LBJ did. i.e. "I Fucked Up, so I'm not running for re-election" (without the "re" in Junior's case, since he was never elected.)

DaveIsKing
06-08-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by FORD
If only he would come to the same wise conclusion that LBJ did. i.e. "I Fucked Up, so I'm not running for re-election" (without the "re" in Junior's case, since he was never elected.)

But, FORD...Who the hell would we get to run the country, then?...I mean Reagan is dead, JFK is dead, FDR is dead and Teddy is dead. Clinton can't keep his pants up, Gore...well..c'mon...GORE?? Robot man??

There truly is NO ONE LEFT.

JCOOK
06-08-2004, 06:25 PM
MAYBE HERMAN...I MEAN JOHN F. KERRY OR WALTER MONDALE OR GERRY FERARRO OR DUKAKIS OR GET THE PICTURE.

DaveIsKing
06-08-2004, 06:40 PM
How about GEORGE WALLACE? ah hell...DEAD.
AL SHARPTON!!!

By God, that's IT!!! AL Fucking SHARPTON!

That son of a bitch has my vote. Yeah!

FORD
06-08-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by DaveIsKing
But, FORD...Who the hell would we get to run the country, then?...I mean Reagan is dead, JFK is dead, FDR is dead and Teddy is dead. Clinton can't keep his pants up, Gore...well..c'mon...GORE?? Robot man??

There truly is NO ONE LEFT.

That's not true.....

http://sf4dean.com/albums/DeanInSuperior/dean2.sized.jpg

John Ashcroft
06-11-2004, 12:43 AM
Heh heh heh...

You so crazy Ford!

Dean's a fruitcake that even the socialists that run your party rejected.

He can't even run a campaign, let alone a country (not to mention the most powerful country on the face of the Earth... In all of history.)

Damn, all you care about is "Sticking it to the Man". I gather that because that's all Dean apparently stood for. You even ponder for a second that you should worry about yourself and those you love? The opportunities in this country are unmatched, yet you want more. Do you want someone to drive up in a limo, out of the blue, and offer you millions of dollars for doing absolutely fucking nothing??? Do you really think for a second that if there weren't rich people in America, all bad things in your life would simply disappear? The answer to your happiness lies in ridding the world of achievers? What the fuck did they do to you, but provide opportunity? You work for the State of Washington, no? Well, who pays the overwhelming majority of taxes (and therefore your salary) in your state? And yet you wish them gone. What the fuck?

FORD
06-11-2004, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Heh heh heh...

You so crazy Ford!

Dean's a fruitcake that even the socialists that run your party rejected.

No, it was the neocon shitbag fascists who rejected him. The socialists were supporting Kucinich.


He can't even run a campaign, let alone a country (not to mention the most powerful country on the face of the Earth... In all of history.)

Keep repeating the FAUX talking points. Dean's campaign had more impact on this election year than anyone or anything else.


Damn, all you care about is "Sticking it to the Man". I gather that because that's all Dean apparently stood for. You even ponder for a second that you should worry about yourself and those you love? The opportunities in this country are unmatched, yet you want more. Do you want someone to drive up in a limo, out of the blue, and offer you millions of dollars for doing absolutely fucking nothing???

Hey it worked for Junior. Several times, in fact. But my dad's not a drug smuggling "retired" CIA director/ex president, so I don't expect the same criminals to favor me.


Do you really think for a second that if there weren't rich people in America, all bad things in your life would simply disappear? The answer to your happiness lies in ridding the world of achievers? What the fuck did they do to you, but provide opportunity?

When did I ever say that "the rich" were evil?? Some of them certainly are, such as the BCE, the House of Saud, and the Bin Laden family. And Richard Mellonhead Scaife is a fascist piece of shit. But on the other hand, my favorite local billionaires Mr Gates & Mr Allen have given literally billions to worthy causes.


You work for the State of Washington, no? Well, who pays the overwhelming majority of taxes (and therefore your salary) in your state? And yet you wish them gone. What the fuck?

When the fuck did I ever say that :confused:

I despise the fact that Boeing, for example, makes weapons of war, but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the reality when Junior awards a big military contract to Lockeed Martin (based in Texas, of course) instead of Boeing, which ends up costing this entire state a lot of money. I don't drink Starfucks coffee, but that don't mean I want them to go under. I just like Batdorf & Bronson's (http://www.batdorf.com/) better.

And like most people, I have my occasional issues with the Micro$oft corporation, but I'm well aware that this state would be in deep shit if they suddenly dropped off the planet. Same with Amazon.com, Nintendo, etc.

That doesn't mean that these corporations - let alone the far more insidious ones, like energy companies and media conglomerations - should be writing government policies. Send lobbyists to Congress? Sure. And honest Congresspeople can always ignore them if they so choose. But to have someone like Ken Lay actually on a White House energy task force, a known thieving bastard like that, is simply beyond comprehension.

Warham
06-11-2004, 08:42 AM
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!

I was either clearing my throat or doing an impression of Howard Dean. You decide.

XAtomicPunkX
06-11-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by FORD
That's not true.....

http://sf4dean.com/albums/DeanInSuperior/dean2.sized.jpg

You mean this clown?