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Diamondjimi
01-18-2011, 10:18 PM
Canadian tourist accuses Mexican police of raping her

A Canadian woman alleges that Mexican police gang-raped her in jail after she and her fiancé were arrested while on vacation in Mexico for New Year's Eve, CBC News has learned.

Rebecca Rutland, 41, says police in the Mexican resort town of Playa del Carmen took the Ontario couple into custody in the late hours of Dec. 31 following a confrontation between officers and her fiancé.

Once in jail, Rutland, a social worker doing her thesis in Thunder Bay, Ont., says two police officers took turns raping her. Rutland and her fiancé, Richard Coleman, 51, of Toronto, also allege officers robbed them of hundreds of dollars and other valuables.

Mexican authorities deny that Rutland was sexually assaulted and dispute the couple's version of events, saying the two were very intoxicated and quarrelled with police in an exchange witnessed by several people.

After several rum-and-cola drinks, Rutland and Coleman say they stopped at a restaurant to use the washroom on their way back to their nearby resort when a man tried to pick up Rutland. Coleman and the man began to argue on the street packed with partygoers and four police officers intervened, the couple says.

Coleman says he had a heated exchange with the officers when the police wanted to search him for drugs. Coleman, a six-foot-tall man with long hair tied in a ponytail and gold hoop earrings, says he believes police targeted him due to his looks.

"I don't think anything I could've said or not said in that moment in time would have really changed it," said Coleman. "But I believe when dealing with a police officer that is overstepping his authority. I believe it is incumbent on me to point it out to them, even if it means I am going to have to deal with some charges afterwards."

Police threw Coleman to the ground, allegedly causing a gash on his forehead, and handcuffed him. They also arrested Rutland.

On the way to the police station, Rutland said a female officer stole one of her rings. Coleman claims an officer also stole more than $700 cash, his BlackBerry and jewelry. He says he later discovered the word "deceased" posted as his BlackBerry Messenger status, as well as Facebook updates via BlackBerry stating he beat his wife.

At the police station, a large city block-sized facility, the couple were brought to separate areas, they say. Coleman says he was placed with another foreigner in a cell that reeked of urine.

Rutland says she was taken to a room where an officer conducted a frontal body search, touching her breasts and undoing her jeans. She alleges the officer then made her kneel and forced her to perform oral sex on him. Two police officers, she alleges, then took turns raping her.

She says she didn't put up much resistance because she feared for her life.

"I did try sort of push him away but I had four officers standing there in Kevlar with machine-guns and my feeling was if I tried to resist it was going to make things a whole lot worse for me," said Rutland. "And I just wanted to get out as intact as possible, which is not really all that intact actually."

Rutland said the police officers beat her and also bit her during the ordeal, once below her lip and another time on her right arm leaving a gash and bruise.

At one point, Rutland said she saw the night supervisor at the door. "I remember looking up and thinking and seeing him and thinking, 'Thank God, somebody is going to stop this.' [Then] he turned around and walked away," said Rutland.

Coleman said he learned about Rutland's alleged rape from fellow inmates cleaning and then tried to kill himself, hoping the act would draw attention to his partner's plight.

"I was completely losing it and getting completely depressed and was thinking there's a good chance that neither of us are going to get out of here," said Coleman. Both say they feared the officers would kill them.

"I arrived at some bizarre logical process that the only way we were going to get out of here alive is if one of us could ... if I could kill myself so they would have to bring in authorities, at least then Rebecca would have a chance," he said.

Coleman said officers found him trying to commit suicide by hanging himself with a shirt, then beat him and recuffed him.

Eighteen hours passed before the two were released from jail after paying a 1,600-peso, or $130 Cdn, fine, they say.

The two have filed complaints with the judicial police who investigate local police in Mexico and also the Canadian consular agency in Playa del Carmen, which is about 60 kilometres south of Cancun.

"We are very concerned about these allegations," said Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Alain Cacchione from Ottawa.

Mexican authorities say they are investigating the allegations and co-operating with Canadian officials based at the consulate.

"At the request of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Parliamentary Secretary [Deepak] Obhrai has spoken with Mexico's ambassador to Canada to discuss the case," said Cacchione. "We welcome the Government of Mexico's investigation into these allegations, and we expect a thorough and transparent investigation and a timely resolution to this case."

Rutland says she hoped a video camera in the room where the alleged sexual assault took place would prove her allegations. But Rutland says she was told the camera, apparently screened by officers at another station, has been broken since Dec. 28, days before the alleged attack.

Quintana Roo State Attorney General Francisco Alor Quezada said a rape kit test on Rutland came back negative.

A sexual assault expert from Toronto's Women's College Hospital, however, says a negative finding on the kit doesn't mean a sex assault didn't happen.

"[It could be] for a lot of the reasons, perhaps no penetration by penis, no ejaculation, perhaps digital penetration, a condom was used, a delay in presentation or evidence, did not persist in time," said Dierdre Bainbridge, a primary health-care nurse practitioner with the hospital's Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence Care Centre.

"It isn't a logical conclusion that no findings equals no sexual assault," said Bainbridge. "The sexual assault evidence kit is one part of a case."

Rutland and Coleman have hired a Mexican lawyer to represent them in the case.

"I'm not going to let this go," said Rutland, who vowed to pursue every avenue possible.

LINK (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-tourist-accuses-mexican-police-raping-her-20110117-173936-792.html)

BITEYOASS
01-18-2011, 10:21 PM
As if Cabo Wabo wasn't enough to repel me from Mexico.

Diamondjimi
01-19-2011, 06:20 PM
More bullshit.....CLICK (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/b-c-man-protected-wife-mexican-shooting-20110119-054405-470.html)

Seshmeister
01-19-2011, 06:28 PM
Coleman said he learned about Rutland's alleged rape from fellow inmates cleaning and then tried to kill himself, hoping the act would draw attention to his partner's plight.

"I was completely losing it and getting completely depressed and was thinking there's a good chance that neither of us are going to get out of here," said Coleman. Both say they feared the officers would kill them.

"I arrived at some bizarre logical process that the only way we were going to get out of here alive is if one of us could ... if I could kill myself so they would have to bring in authorities, at least then Rebecca would have a chance," he said.

Coleman said officers found him trying to commit suicide by hanging himself with a shirt, then beat him and recuffed him.


This bit is odd.

WACF
01-19-2011, 07:16 PM
The whole story seems odd.

Just came back from two weeks 20 minutes south of Playa Del Carmen.

I've to been to Playa many times before too.

Seems fine...

Seshmeister
01-19-2011, 07:52 PM
A rape test in Canada came back negative apparently.

My gut instinct is that at the age of 41 and 51 they should known to be more careful but who knows where on the scale from 'appalling rape' to 'deluded out of their face' this one lies...

Blaze
01-19-2011, 11:36 PM
Do any of you deny that Mexico jails are places of danger?

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 02:50 AM
Do any of you deny that Mexico jails are places of danger?

I don't know, never been in one but a good friend of mine spent the night in the Guadalajara jail. I'm glad I saw Mexico before the narcos turned it into a gangster ran hellhole. I did lots of jungle prowling with a PHD down by the Guatemala border checking out old ruins and did some Jaguar hunting. The good old days.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 02:53 AM
The worst things I had to deal with in Mexico were those screaming loud assed crazy monkeys in the jungle. Also, having large spiders fall out of the thatch roof at night sucks. I wondered why there was chicken wire up there. Heard noises, turned the flash light on and holly shit! Nasty things hide in thatched roofs.

sadaist
01-20-2011, 03:50 AM
I love Mexico. But not the cities or border towns. Deeper coastal villages in Baja or the flip side of the Sea of Cortez. Bahia de los Angeles, Mulege, Loreto, Guaymis, Puerto Punasco, San Felipe. Great fishing, great weather, great cerveza, great food...and most importantly great locals. Been hesitant to go in the last 10 years as would have to drive through some really bad cities and down the infamous desert highway (robberies where they stop you in the middle of nowhere have increased).

Every once in a while we would see the Federalis on the beach with machine guns walking around. Or a random road block check stop. They would ask a couple questions of us, take a quick peek around, and let us on our way. Never hassled us. But then a couple guys with their Dads and a truck load of beer, tents, and fishing poles is probably not what they were looking for.

A dream for me would be to retire someday down there & just fish everyday, drink in a small cantina every night & be a beachcomber.

Blaze
01-20-2011, 10:04 AM
It is sad what is happening to our neighbors. Mexico used to be a great place to retire to a simpler life. :(

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 10:15 AM
Mexico is becoming Columbia if not worse. Columbia is a beautiful country as well with nice people for the most part as Mexico is. The problem is drug demand and an open border. The solution, legalize the drugs to kill the market price and secure the border. Even putting some Naional Gurard on the border has worked wonders but they will be pulled off and deployed overseas in a few months.

Mexico has always suffered from bad government and when you have bad government, everything suffers. A hard lesson we are starting to learn here in the US.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 10:18 AM
Another thing that keeps Mexico down is the lack of educational drive there. Mexicans can be hard working people but they don't seem to embrace further their education like the Asians do. The world is full of people who can do manual work but gifted, hard working, specialists are in more demand. The country with the most engineers and productive capacity will always be the winner.

ashstralia
01-20-2011, 10:20 AM
I'm glad I saw Mexico before the narcos turned it into a gangster ran hellhole.

the narco executions are getting more brutally creative day by day.... they're skinning the heads once they chop 'em off now, and i've seen images of messages spelled out with human entrails (any other ogrish members on here?)

kwame k
01-20-2011, 10:29 AM
the narco executions are getting more brutally creative day by day.... they're skinning the heads once they chop 'em off now, and i've seen images of messages spelled out with human entrails (any other ogrish members on here?)

What's mind blowing is the fact that over 34,000 people have died in the last 4 years.............

Other than brief blurbs on TV and page 3 articles in newspaper/internet no one seems to give a flying fuck about this.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 10:52 AM
What's mind blowing is the fact that over 34,000 people have died in the last 4 years.............

Other than brief blurbs on TV and page 3 articles in newspaper/internet no one seems to give a flying fuck about this.

Nope. The media will only yak about what they are paid to yak about and the politicians only care about what they are paid to care about. I guess since Mexico's oil is running out, we aren't going to worry about them much anymore because there is more money to be made in the middle east. The Chinese are the slave labor. We will just let in some Mexicans to clean our toilets, make our beds, and work our farms.

ashstralia
01-20-2011, 10:55 AM
What's mind blowing is the fact that over 34,000 people have died in the last 4 years.............

Other than brief blurbs on TV and page 3 articles in newspaper/internet no one seems to give a flying fuck about this.

damn right mate.. 34,000 is a reasonably sized town for crying out loud. but druggies want drugs, and the narco's want their $$$, so the business thrives.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 10:58 AM
The border towns in Mexico used to be the problem areas but once you got deeper into the country it got better. Mexico City could get rough. Now all that shit is happing in places like Oxacca and even Peurto Vallarta.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 11:01 AM
I had relatives on my mom's side who lived in Chiwawa. They had been there since the early 1900's and they got the hell out because of the kidnappings and killings. They live in Canada now.

Nitro Express
01-20-2011, 11:07 AM
It goes to show you what scum bag presidents we have now. Obama and Bush never even mention the Mexico genocide. Reagan, Carter, Ford would have brought attention to it and probably would have done something about it. Today, they don't care.

lesfunk
01-20-2011, 02:36 PM
I used to be friends with a woman who went to Mexico on holiday and came back a rape victim.

Terry
01-23-2011, 04:02 PM
The allegations sound like bullshit on the face of it.

However, I still have no desire to go to Me-hico.

sadaist
01-23-2011, 04:43 PM
What's mind blowing is the fact that over 34,000 people have died in the last 4 years.............

Other than brief blurbs on TV and page 3 articles in newspaper/internet no one seems to give a flying fuck about this.


It was main news for about 2 cycles when that girls husband was shot while jet skiing on a Texas lake. Then a Kardashian got a DUI or Obama dyed his hair or bought an iPad and Mexico was page 8 again.