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Mushroom
01-28-2011, 09:41 PM
I’m shocked to see there is no thread about all the protests and uprisings going on in the Middle East right now. Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, not to mention the rest... please don’t.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html

Nevertheless it appears things are happening rapidly in the last few weeks that could lead to rapid changes with unforeseen consequences. Who’s next in power? More extreme, hard-line regimes, democratically voted but more secular, or by military takeover? Or more moderate representative democracies? I just can’t visualize moderate representative democracies. That might work in developed areas, but tribal areas? ALl I know is right now I’m impressed with images found on the internet news sites. I rarely watch TV and I have yet to see anything on TV about it.

Whatever it is, I wish we stay the fuck out of it and let the dust settle by itself. Is that possible? Fuck, you know what’s going to happen. The US will get involved somehow, and that never works out.




And check this guy out... I’m sure he was coming here for a peaceful retirement

Controversial Muslim cleric caught being smuggled into U.S. over Mexico border

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351385/Controversial-Muslim-cleric-caught-smuggled-U-S-Mexico-border.html

Said Jaziri, who called for the death of a Danish cartoonist that drew pictures of the prophet Mohammed, was being smuggled into California when he was arrested, along with his driver Kenneth Robert Lawler.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351385/Controversial-Muslim-cleric-caught-smuggled-U-S-Mexico-border.html#ixzz1CO90egFJ

Nitro Express
01-28-2011, 10:27 PM
It looks like the good old Islamic Brotherhood is stirring the shit.

Diamondjimi
01-28-2011, 10:38 PM

Satan
01-28-2011, 10:48 PM
Great...... World War III is about to start and millions will die. There goes Hell's budget for the next 10 years. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d085.gif

Nitro Express
01-28-2011, 10:59 PM
Maybe we have turned this realm into hell already.

kwame k
01-28-2011, 11:02 PM
I've been meaning to post about Egypt but never got around to it......suspending the internet! WTF, and it looks like there may be change on the horizon. Fuck that 2 bit dictator.

Nickdfresh
01-28-2011, 11:03 PM
It looks like the good old Islamic Brotherhood is stirring the shit.

Nope. It was kids on the internetz that started it. Probably university students and the many, underemployed disaffected masses. The Islamic Brotherhood has been left behind...

Nitro Express
01-28-2011, 11:08 PM
World War I = Belt fed machine guns, aircraft bombing, aircraft strafing, aircraft dogfighting, chemical warfare, and trench warfare.

World War II = Mobile infantry, airborne troops, tanks, amphibious landings, blitzkrieg tactics, first assault rifles used, first nukes used.

World War III = Intercontinental ballistic missiles, multiple individually targeted warheads, multi megaton payload.

World War IV = Sticks and stones.

Nitro Express
01-28-2011, 11:14 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest opposition movement, demanded on Wednesday that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak dissolve the nation’s freshly formed parliament and hold a new election. The move is widely viewed as an attempt by the Muslim Brotherhood to capitalize on the thirst for change kindled by Tunisia’s recent Jasmine Revolution.

The Brotherhood also urged Cairo to prosecute corrupt policymakers and to repeal a law banning political rallies. Additionally, the Islamist group demanded constitutional changes to curb election rigging, following November’s elections when the Brotherhood lost all 88 of its parliamentary seats.

In a statement on its website the Brotherhood threatened that if the Egyptian government “does not move fast and shoulder responsibility to start a serious reform process, stability might not last for long.”

Demands and warnings of this kind from the Brotherhood are nothing new, but the most recent calls are timed to harness the momentum unleashed by the upheaval in Tunisia which deposed the nation’s dictator and sent ripples of revolutionary hope into opposition groups throughout the Middle East.

“The events in Tunisia are a cornerstone for the rest of the people of the Arab and Islamic world,” the Brotherhood wrote. “It is a message to all the despotic leaders and the corrupt regimes that they are not safe and they are living on the tip of a volcano of people’s anger and God’s wrath.”

Although some analysts have downplayed fears that the turmoil in Tunisia will spread into neighboring nations, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood’s complaints parallel those that culminated in the toppling of Tunisia’s president, and, in the last two weeks, nine Egyptian protesters have either set themselves on fire or tried to, in imitation of the self-immolation that ignited the uprising in Tunisia. And since Egypt suffers from the same symptoms—high youth unemployment, rising food prices, high inflation, a lack of political freedom, unapologetic corruption and nepotism—that afflicted Tunisia, the contagion possibility should not be ignored.

The Trumpet’s editor in chief has predicted for over a decade that Egypt will fall under the influence of Islamists. In his booklet The King of the South, Gerald Flurry stated, “Daniel 11:42 implies that Egypt will be allied with the king of the south, or Iran. This prophecy indicates that there would be a far-reaching change in Egyptian politics!”

For years the Mubarak regime has held this change at bay, but, as discontent with the political system in Egypt increases, we will see the voice of the Islamists intensify. Egypt’s leadership will undergo a change, and probably sooner than most analysts expect. •

The largest organized opposition movement in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood.

Nitro Express
01-28-2011, 11:18 PM
It might be noted the internet and cell phone networks were shut down in Egypt. Great organizing tools until the government pulls the plug.

ashstralia
01-29-2011, 01:08 AM
egypt updates it's facebook status to 'it's complicated'.

sadaist
01-29-2011, 02:07 AM
.....suspending the internet! WTF


Egypt has been E-Gypped.

:hee:



















sorry...couldn't help myself

ashstralia
01-29-2011, 02:09 AM
very good!:)

Hardrock69
01-29-2011, 02:52 AM
King Fahd is probably quaking in his boots right now in Saudi Arabia. If the Saudis go nuts, then that is going to be it.

ashstralia
01-29-2011, 04:19 AM
apparently oil is pretty cheap at the moment, too. d'oh!

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 04:42 AM
I lived in Israel in 1987 doing a study abroad thing in college. Things were pretty calm then. We used to go into Egypt and stay at a great beach resort in Al Arish. We tried to get into Saudi Arabia because they have some world class scuba diving along the Red Sea. Impossible to get a visa. Not much going on between the Jews and Palistinians then either. I had the feeling then I better see what I want to see because the middle east can go off at any time.

SunisinuS
01-29-2011, 04:45 AM
To be honest.....it is not for us to decide.

I have a roomate that is ex navy seal....


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Swinging_Sixties/Pics%20-%20People/DonaldSutherland.jpg

SunisinuS
01-29-2011, 04:50 AM
To be more clear: Pain is the human condition. You think otherwise....you have a mental illness. We only survive through the ability to overcome pain. Look to the founders of your country. If they believe that comfort is the way to freedom....then they have another think coming.

SunisinuS
01-29-2011, 04:52 AM
I lived in Israel in 1987 doing a study abroad thing in college. Things were pretty calm then. We used to go into Egypt and stay at a great beach resort in Al Arish. We tried to get into Saudi Arabia because they have some world class scuba diving along the Red Sea. Impossible to get a visa. Not much going on between the Jews and Palistinians then either. I had the feeling then I better see what I want to see because the middle east can go off at any time.

vh rides again
01-29-2011, 09:18 AM
Obama said he spoke to the egyptian president after his speech last night, he said he told him it was his responsibility to follow through with his promises. jeezus christ where does he get the balls to be giving advice about following through on promises?. CNN also reported that all the tear gas cylinders being used on the protesters were manufactured in the united states.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 04:16 PM
Things haven't changed since Lawrence of Arabia was running around there. Got to protect the Suez Canal zone. Other than that, nobody gives a rat's ass.

Nickdfresh
01-29-2011, 06:20 PM
The largest organized opposition movement in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood.

And they were pretty late on the boat of this current uprising, which has actually caused them to lose credibility as a largely de-fanged, beaten down opposition party part of the system the protesters are trying to usurp. This is largely a spontaneous uprising led by students, internet activists, and the largely secular intellectual elites inspired by the deposition of the Tunisian strongman a few weeks ago. The main hurdle they face is that they are in fact NOT an organized opposition. But a loose, somewhat leaderless confederation of people sick of corruption, military dictatorship, and a status quo that quashes any form of social mobility and meritocracy...

Nickdfresh
01-29-2011, 06:29 PM
It might be noted the internet and cell phone networks were shut down in Egypt. Great organizing tools until the government pulls the plug.

The cell phone shut down will cause difficulties. However, I've heard it speculated that one of the ways to piss people off and make them more actively belligerent is to shut off their internet, which serves as a tool to release their anger via blogging and posting on message boards. Take away that, they have no other way to vent than to throw firebombs in the street...

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 06:40 PM
The key is to be organized. The government can mop up an unorganized rabble. Everyone is amazed Egypt could shut down the internet so quickly. It would be almost impossible to do in the US because we have so many internet providers, networks, and routes. It's nothing new. It's why the Romans provided bread and circuses. To keep the people pacified. If the average guy has a job, can buy a beer after work, and get laid, they are pretty much happy. The average person doesn't need much. Once that goes away they get mad and take to the streets. It's happening worldwide and probably will start to happen here in a year or two. Europe is already percolating.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 06:45 PM
Egypt has always been a puppet state of the west because of the strategic importance of the Suez Canal. The Brits purposely set up Israel to be a new base of operations in the Middle East. Israel has always been a puppet state to the European bankers. If there was no canal zone and no oil there, it still would be guys riding around on camels fighting each other.

Nickdfresh
01-29-2011, 07:15 PM
You really need to read history. The Jewish settlers terror bombed the British. I have no idea what you're talking about as Israel endures far more skepticism in Europe than it does in the U.S. There's little oil near Egypt. And neither Egypt nor Israel have a history that one could call conducive to being a client state or "puppet" since Egypt was in the Soviet sphere until the early 1970s, when they largely fell away back towards the West...

Nickdfresh
01-29-2011, 07:17 PM
The key is to be organized. The government can mop up an unorganized rabble....

That's what they're sort of trying to do. But then, how do you arrest the leaders of a largely leaderless movement? And it seems the security forces may be showing signs they're no longer following orders...

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 09:18 PM
The US currently gives Egypt $2 Billion a year. It's a puppet state. The Soviets assisted Egypt during the cold war. There is no oil in Israel or Egypt but there are oil assets near those states and the Suez Canal is in between them. The British have always had an interest because of that reason.

Israel may not be popular with the average European but they aren't running the show, the banks and oil companies are. You might as well just put North America and Europe in the same boat as far as that is concerned because the big money run the show and they start the wars and revolutions to play their games. North American bankers and European bankers get along fine. Things happen for a reason.

The middle east is a complicated place and it's history is not so cut and dry. It's where Jews fight Jews and Mulsims fight Muslisms and they fight each other. With the natural resource wealth there, you always have powerful outsiders manipulating things from the outside.

It's boils down to control of natural resources, trade routes, and pipelines. The countries with the big money and militaries will always be able to buy off the politicians or stir a revolution or invade to change who's in charge. Just because a country doesn't have oil doesn't mean it's not valuable from a transportation perspective or a military strategic location.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 09:21 PM
That's what they're sort of trying to do. But then, how do you arrest the leaders of a largely leaderless movement? And it seems the security forces may be showing signs they're no longer following orders...

Leaderless movements can't accomplish anything. Sure people can take to the streets, break windows, set cars on fire but then comes in the military and they are mowed down. If enough of the military refuse to follow orders then that changes things.

sadaist
01-29-2011, 09:22 PM
The cell phone shut down will cause difficulties. However, I've heard it speculated that one of the ways to piss people off and make them more actively belligerent is to shut off their internet, which serves as a tool to release their anger via blogging and posting on message boards. Take away that, they have no other way to vent than to throw firebombs in the street...


It has been reported over the day that people are using dial-up to get Internet access. Fucking snail slow, but it's access nonetheless. So is dial-up a backup emergency plan everyone should keep the ability to access?

There is zero chance I could use dial-up because I don't even have a live phone line coming in to my house. Haven't in about 5 years. Only phone I have is my cell phone, and my only Internet is through the cable provider. Long gone are the days of the very first thing you do when you move is setup the phone line and plug in your answering machine.

I don't really stockpile anything in case of major civil unrest or catastrophe. But a phone line might not be a bad idea. Cause even if electricity is totally gone, phone lines still work.



come to think of it, I don't think my computer even has a way to connect to a phone line...and I know I don't have a cord anywhere even if it did.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 09:29 PM
That's what they're sort of trying to do. But then, how do you arrest the leaders of a largely leaderless movement? And it seems the security forces may be showing signs they're no longer following orders...

Leaderless movements can't accomplish anything. Sure people can take to the streets, break windows, set cars on fire but then comes in the military and they are mowed down. If enough of the military refuse to follow orders then that changes things.

What usually happens is the president promotes family members and friends and the finance minister and generals fear for their jobs. They collude and over throw the government. Usually calls are placed to world banking power brokers who then give their blessing in exchange for a few banana plantations or some kind of favoritism. Then the government changes.

The power brokers really don't care what kind of atrocities are committed as long as the person in charge serves their interests. The US could care less about what Saddam was doing when Iran was the major concern and Saddam was viewed as an asset. He only became the bad guy when the powers that be wanted to steal his oil and set up large military bases there.

Governments only care about power because they are power. They are usually controlled by bought off politicians. This is why you don't give a government any more power than is necessary. They are hopelessly corrupt.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 09:57 PM
It has been reported over the day that people are using dial-up to get Internet access. Fucking snail slow, but it's access nonetheless. So is dial-up a backup emergency plan everyone should keep the ability to access?

There is zero chance I could use dial-up because I don't even have a live phone line coming in to my house. Haven't in about 5 years. Only phone I have is my cell phone, and my only Internet is through the cable provider. Long gone are the days of the very first thing you do when you move is setup the phone line and plug in your answering machine.

I don't really stockpile anything in case of major civil unrest or catastrophe. But a phone line might not be a bad idea. Cause even if electricity is totally gone, phone lines still work.



come to think of it, I don't think my computer even has a way to connect to a phone line...and I know I don't have a cord anywhere even if it did.

Yeah. I was working for American Express in downtown Salt Lake City when an F4 tornado ripped through downtown. I actually watched it bounce up the foothills like a top pulling big trees out of the ground, exploding transformers, taking roofs off. I then grabbed my cell phone to call my wife and it wasn't working. I had Voice Stream but everyone else in the building with different providers had the same problem. I then picked up the land line and it still worked.

I think the best thing to have in an emergency is a backpack full of food, water, something to stay dry and warm with, a good knife, something to start a fire with. Something you can grab quick and get out and live off of for a few days. I like to backpack in the back country of Yellowstone National Park so I always have my pack stocked and ready to go if there is an emergency. One fun exercise is in the middle of winter, pull the main breaker for the house and see how you fare for one day. Kids always freak out because they are so gizmo and computer addicted. It's a good way to test how prepared you are.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 10:01 PM
One of the best assets I've discovered backpacking is those portable water sterilization pumps. Those are great. The only problem I've had was snow camping in -20 weather with the Boy Scouts and having it freeze getting water out of the creek. You should always keep some bleach on hand because a small amount can be used to sterilize water. Clean water is one of the biggest challenges in an emergency situation and contaminated water can make you sick and put you down in a hurry. I took my pump to Guatemala on a pack packing trip and used it in some scary water. I put bleach in the water and then ran it through the pump. I never got the shits.

Blaze
01-29-2011, 10:28 PM
NE,
you are gravely wrong.
Leaderless organizations create imagined leaders, similar to WWJD.
If the chosen have taken to the streets due to a conceptual issue, such as corruption, they are following a conceptual leader. Therefore do not need a physical leader.
A struggle again corruption is not a figure head necessity.

Satan
01-29-2011, 10:32 PM
Common thread here with Egypt and Yemen (aside from being Middle Eastern Muslim cultures) is that both countries have had corrupt leaders for the past 30 years.

Maybe the US needs to learn the lesson here?

Blaze
01-29-2011, 10:46 PM
Corruption is an issue any one can partake. One chooses to receive or reject corruption.
I am sorry what is happening; however, human choice is corruption or confadaunce (sp?)
Confadance is not the same as secrets.
Peace be unto all.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 11:14 PM
NE,
you are gravely wrong.
Leaderless organizations create imagined leaders, similar to WWJD.
If the chosen have taken to the streets due to a conceptual issue, such as corruption, they are following a conceptual leader. Therefore do not need a physical leader.
A struggle again corruption is not a figure head necessity.

I would say it's a common motivator or a common goal. In reality nothing gets done without leadership especially large things. Without leadership you don't have organizational structure. On a very small scale things work without a leader if you have decent motivated people but on a large scale it just doesn't work.

Nitro Express
01-29-2011, 11:18 PM
One of the problems with countries; including this one is we don't have real leaders. We have paid puppets. A real leader will be the last to sleep, the last to eat, will go without until everyone else is taken care of. A leaders true responsibility is to make sure the whole is working and not to take from the whole and isolate themselves.

sadaist
01-30-2011, 02:01 AM
Mubarak should just come out & say we will have new open Presidential elections in 90 days. At that time I will not run for a 6th term & will step down. The shitstorm would calm down, lives would be saved, Egypt would get a leader they want (as long as the elections aren't rigged), and he would save a little face.

He was done in October anyways. What's the big fucking deal moving it up by 4-5 months? This also prevents the current strongest faction rioting from taking the leadership by force & fucking Egypt even more so.

And turn back on the Internet & cellular services immediately.

If it were truly what was in the best interests of his country & countrymen, and not about hanging on to every ounce of power he can, he would have done this days ago.

I hope everything ends up in a good place for Egypt. It's on my dream list of places to visit in my lifetime. My bucket list.

Hardrock69
01-30-2011, 03:56 AM
The interesting thing is the reputation the military have. All males between 18 and 30 are required to serve at least one year.

And the military has a history of overthrowing dictators in order to establish democratic rule. So even though they have been called out, they have been welcomed by the protesters, and are not beating them down. It is the police service that is hated by the people, which is why they have been looting all the police stations, while the military stand by doing nothing, and as a result are not being attacked by the public.

It is inevitable that Mubarek step down. I mean, what the fuck is he going to do, try to retain power while the entire country is rebelling against him?

I hope it all works out well also. I hope that any replacement for the current regime is a more free and open society, with no militant religious zealots fucking shit up.

SunisinuS
01-30-2011, 04:41 AM
Mubarak should just come out & say we will have new open Presidential elections in 90 days. At that time I will not run for a 6th term & will step down. The shitstorm would calm down, lives would be saved, Egypt would get a leader they want (as long as the elections aren't rigged), and he would save a little face.

He was done in October anyways. What's the big fucking deal moving it up by 4-5 months? This also prevents the current strongest faction rioting from taking the leadership by force & fucking Egypt even more so.

And turn back on the Internet & cellular services immediately.

If it were truly what was in the best interests of his country & countrymen, and not about hanging on to every ounce of power he can, he would have done this days ago.

I hope everything ends up in a good place for Egypt. It's on my dream list of places to visit in my lifetime. My bucket list.

Exactly......I have always wanted to visit Egypt and have been denied because of my color. I have waited for years to visit that place and India as well but until they stop hurting everyone that looks different (I refuse to put a Maple Leaf on my backpack) I said I will not travel there. Lol even if I dye my hair I still look Nordic. It is time Mr. Mub. And as far as the military is concerned....I know of only one Military that has been a pillar of democracy: The US Military. No Coups....No Bananna Republic....and Kent State is enshrined in their mind also.

Nitro Express
01-30-2011, 05:34 AM
You don't have to put a maple leaf on your backpack. If you are overseas and you are asked questions about politics, just say it's all ran by corrupt politicians. Everyone agrees with that. I saw a warm friendly situation in Columbia turn sour because I said I liked a certain US President. If I just said, I don't care for politicians in general things would have been cool. Just avoid talking politics and religion. What really warms people up is talking about what you enjoy in their country. People everywhere appreciate that and you can learn a lot.

Nitro Express
01-30-2011, 05:38 AM
Maybe Murbarak is a puppet and the objective is to stir the shit. Maybe bigger forces than Murbarak want a revolution in Egypt and to stir the whole middle east up. Why? The western world's economy has tanked and the politicians have no solutions. People have woken up that the banks have stolen the citizens money. When politicians have no solutions they take you to war. They use war as a distraction. Not everyone wants peace. Some people gain a lot from war, especially bankers.

Nitro Express
01-30-2011, 05:46 AM
The interesting thing is the reputation the military have. All males between 18 and 30 are required to serve at least one year.

And the military has a history of overthrowing dictators in order to establish democratic rule. So even though they have been called out, they have been welcomed by the protesters, and are not beating them down. It is the police service that is hated by the people, which is why they have been looting all the police stations, while the military stand by doing nothing, and as a result are not being attacked by the public.

It is inevitable that Mubarek step down. I mean, what the fuck is he going to do, try to retain power while the entire country is rebelling against him?

I hope it all works out well also. I hope that any replacement for the current regime is a more free and open society, with no militant religious zealots fucking shit up.

The middle east traditionally has been under the control of Islamic clerics or dictators. I think the big catalyst for change may be free access to the internet. In the past many people only knew what was being told in the local community and so they have a biased view of how things are and how they should be. Now with the internet it opens up a whole new universe and maybe these people want something new instead of the old ways of doing things.

sadaist
01-30-2011, 06:27 AM
Kinda gay, but I've always wanted to ride a camel at the pyramids. I have a friend who is Kuwaiti & he laughs at me when I say that. He says "dude, have you ever ridden a camel? Do you not realize what that fucker will try to do? You will be sore for a week!" I guess they are really mean & nasty too. But hey, that makes it sound even better. Telling the grandkids someday that the scar on my arm is from a scrap I got into with a camel while in front of the great pyramids.

Or swim in the Nile River & shout "Sammy Hagar was never in Van Halen!".

SunisinuS
01-30-2011, 04:01 PM
The key is to be organized. The government can mop up an unorganized rabble. Everyone is amazed Egypt could shut down the internet so quickly. It would be almost impossible to do in the US because we have so many internet providers, networks, and routes. It's nothing new. It's why the Romans provided bread and circuses. To keep the people pacified. If the average guy has a job, can buy a beer after work, and get laid, they are pretty much happy. The average person doesn't need much. Once that goes away they get mad and take to the streets. It's happening worldwide and probably will start to happen here in a year or two. Europe is already percolating.


Nitro: On my Morale thread I said it first......Europe is poised to hurt. It started with that Garbage problem in Naples.

Golden AWe
01-30-2011, 04:04 PM
The interesting thing is the reputation the military have. All males between 18 and 30 are required to serve at least one year.

And the military has a history of overthrowing dictators in order to establish democratic rule. So even though they have been called out, they have been welcomed by the protesters, and are not beating them down. It is the police service that is hated by the people, which is why they have been looting all the police stations, while the military stand by doing nothing, and as a result are not being attacked by the public.

It is inevitable that Mubarek step down. I mean, what the fuck is he going to do, try to retain power while the entire country is rebelling against him?

I hope it all works out well also. I hope that any replacement for the current regime is a more free and open society, with no militant religious zealots fucking shit up.

Yeah. It was funny how the finnish media wrote about the latest events. We've got some very independent media here, when it comes to foreign politics, but this time the finnish reporters wrote how "the crowds have started to rob shops and houses now". So robbing is more scary than your own police forces mercelessly killing and mugging people on the streets!

SunisinuS
01-30-2011, 04:11 PM
Kinda gay, but I've always wanted to ride a camel at the pyramids. I have a friend who is Kuwaiti & he laughs at me when I say that. He says "dude, have you ever ridden a camel? Do you not realize what that fucker will try to do? You will be sore for a week!" I guess they are really mean & nasty too. But hey, that makes it sound even better. Telling the grandkids someday that the scar on my arm is from a scrap I got into with a camel while in front of the great pyramids.

Or swim in the Nile River & shout "Sammy Hagar was never in Van Halen!".

I actually have always wanted to rent a Barge and just float down the Nile. A huge floating Party. Crocodiles can bite me. Lol I will be swimming late at night looking up at my rental party barge.....lol. Maybe now it will be possible.

Seshmeister
01-30-2011, 07:57 PM
Well according to Fox News the whole country is moving East at a fair rate of knots.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs757.ash1/164865_10150146678214673_652999672_7785058_3148063 _n.jpg

They really are a bunch of useless fucks at that station...

Seshmeister
01-30-2011, 08:00 PM
Exactly......I have always wanted to visit Egypt and have been denied because of my color. I have waited for years to visit that place and India as well but until they stop hurting everyone that looks different

I don't know what color you are but sounds it like you have been very badly informed.

Nitro Express
01-30-2011, 08:31 PM
Nitro: On my Morale thread I said it first......Europe is poised to hurt. It started with that Garbage problem in Naples.

If you want to stay in control, you have to give the little guy something. Most people aren't motivated enough to put the hard work in to be super successful. Especially nowadays but you have to give the average person the bare things that keep them happy and that doesn't really require a lot. Once you take that away people get angry. What has happened is the rich have mismanaged their companies and banks. They went broke so they go after the little guy because that's who is left. That's why you let the too big to fails fail. Something better will replace them but if you bail them out the little people get squeezed to keep the ponzi scheme going a little longer.

If we didn't bailout those fucks, we would start to see the glimmer of a recovery by now, but they just stole our money and saddled us with future debt to pass the money around to themselves. Nothing is going to the little guy and the little guy got saddled with the debt. This is why people are angry worldwide. When people pay high taxes and then have their tuition jacked 200% they want to take the prince's head off.

Hardrock69
01-31-2011, 12:45 AM
To be honest.....it is not for us to decide.

I have a roomate that is ex navy seal....



Your roommate is Donald Sutherland? :hee:

Hardrock69
01-31-2011, 12:50 AM
Maybe Murbarak is a puppet and the objective is to stir the shit. Maybe bigger forces than Murbarak want a revolution in Egypt and to stir the whole middle east up. Why? The western world's economy has tanked and the politicians have no solutions. People have woken up that the banks have stolen the citizens money. When politicians have no solutions they take you to war. They use war as a distraction. Not everyone wants peace. Some people gain a lot from war, especially bankers.

Well, go ask the CIA about all that. It has been their standard M.O. since they were created.

The US does not care if a country has a dictator or not, as long as the stooge in power is not too obvious about all the human rights violations that occur.

In this case though, Mubarek has been playing pattycake with the US for 30 years, and has not been doing anything to agitate the US government, so this just may a good example of the freedom the internet gives people to rise up in open revolt against an unpopular asshole.

The Chinese are watching this closely I am sure.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 01:44 AM
Well, go ask the CIA about all that. It has been their standard M.O. since they were created.

The US does not care if a country has a dictator or not, as long as the stooge in power is not too obvious about all the human rights violations that occur.

In this case though, Mubarek has been playing pattycake with the US for 30 years, and has not been doing anything to agitate the US government, so this just may a good example of the freedom the internet gives people to rise up in open revolt against an unpopular asshole.

The Chinese are watching this closely I am sure.

The US is the whipping post right now due to our invasion of Iraq but history shows all superpowers have played the same game. Bush's cabinet was full of people that wanted to seize arab oil in the 1970's but he US congress wouldn't go for it. Once 9/11 happened and those guys were in the executive branch they went for it. Also during this time a B-52 bomber loaded with nukes was heading to the middle east but got stopped due to a violation of Air Force protocols. It was the air men at the base that flagged the problem. A lot of shit has been going down in the last 10 years regarding the middle east. It just may be the next chess board between China and the US as long as oil is the modern world's most valuable resource.

I think the powers that outsourced us to China knew they still had advanced military technology to keep China blackmailed and controlling the middle east is perfect for that. China is now onto it. Maybe that is why they possibly launched a missle off of LA and unveiled some of their modern weapon technology. I think we are getting into another arms race and cyber and economic warfare are in play here.

Dr. Love
01-31-2011, 10:18 AM
Tomorrow they are planning a general strike, a large protest and to march towards the presidential palace. Should be an interesting day.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 10:54 AM
Tomorrow they are planning a general strike, a large protest and to march towards the presidential palace. Should be an interesting day.

The way our politicians have been screwing us, we will be marching on our presidential palace soon enough. Especially when unemployment and costs of living rise.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Mike Giglio – Sun Jan 30, 10:42 pm ET

In Egypt, a Facebook page administrator known only by the handle El Shaheeed, or Martyr, is one of the driving forces behind the historic protests. Mike Giglio tracks down the mysterious figure, who talks about his crucial role in organizing the demonstrations.

{...}

With the next protest scheduled for that Friday, activists including El Shaheeed were busy coordinating their response to what they believed would be a brutal government crackdown. A Google document with a list of demands as well as instructions for the demonstrations was, at one point, viewed at the same time by more than 200 people, altered in real-time by dozens of editors.

In a harried conversation on the eve of Friday’s protests, El Shaheeed vowed to stay anonymous even if the revolution succeeded. “This is not about me,” El Shaheeed said. “This is about the people of Egypt. I want to go back to my real life. I don’t want any glory. I wasn’t seeking it to start with.”

Shortly afterward, the Egyptian government cut Internet access.

Two days later, Wael Khalil stood among thousands of other people in Tahrir Square, the epicenter of the demonstrations. The protests called for Friday had continued into the next evening, seemingly tipping the balance of power. Police stations across the country had been overrun; the National Party Headquarters had been burned to the ground; faced with tens of thousands of demonstrators, police had disappeared. On the tanks that had taken their place, protesters scribbled pro-democracy slogans without interference from the soldiers.

In a telephone call, Khalil said that he hadn’t heard from El Shaheeed since Thursday night; with the Internet still down, the Facebook page had been inactive ever since. But perhaps there was no more use for it—it had played its role.

Fires still burned on the streets of the capital; in their flickering light, people huddled together to talk openly about revolution for the first time in many years.

Perhaps somewhere in the crowds was El Shaheeed.

Mike Giglio is a reporter at Newsweek.

Read full story here ->
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110131/ts_dailybeast/12153_elshaheedthemysteriousanonymousbehindegyptsr evolt

Blaze
01-31-2011, 01:50 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110130/media_nm/us_egypt_jazeera

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/d/0c/d0c3eb8ca18907492a4b337b5cec5193.jpeg

{...}
"The Information Minister ordered ... suspension of operations of Al Jazeera, cancelling of its licenses and withdrawing accreditation to all its staff as of today," a statement on Egypt's official Mena news agency said.

{...}

"Al Jazeera assures its audiences in Egypt and across the world that it will continue its in-depth and comprehensive reporting on the events unfolding in Egypt."

Egyptian state television largely ignored the protests for the first five days until a curfew was announced on Friday, the day of the biggest protests up to that point.

Since then it has aired more coverage of events on the streets but has focused on disorder more than protests against Mubarak.

(Reporting by Eman Goma in Kuwait, Cairo newsroom and Regan E. Doherty in Doha; Writing by Cynthia Johnston and Reed Stevenson; editing by Tim Pearce)

sadaist
01-31-2011, 01:57 PM
Egyptian state television largely ignored the protests for the first five days....

Since then it has aired more coverage of events on the streets but has focused on disorder more than protests against Mubarak.




Wow. Sounds exactly like the US media coverage of the Tea Party gatherings the summer of 2009. They failed to report on it dismissing it as "Astroturf" rather than grass roots. And once they did show anything, it was the couple of nutbags with offensive signs rather than the large majority of people there.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 02:06 PM
Ian Paul – Fri Jan 28, 9:26 am ET
The Egyptian government shut down access to the Internet early Friday morning, affecting about 88 percent of the country's online networks. While blackouts of selected sites such as YouTube, Facebook, and Google are common in countries with autocratic and totalitarian governments, this appears to be the first time a government tried to shut down all Internet access.

Even though Internet access in Egypt is blacked out, you can still find a fair amount of live information about the protests online. Here are five ways to still find out what's going on in Egypt from people who are close to the action:

Live Video Stream (gone)
Al Jazeera English has a live video stream showing the latest video shots and still images from protests that are rocking the North African country.

Live Blog
The Guardian has a live blog about events in Egypt and around the Middle East.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2011/jan/28/egypt-protests-live-updates

Twitter
Associated Press reporter Diaa Hadid (@diaahadid) has been able to send out tweets on a limited basis from Cairo. It's not clear how she's able to do this or how long this access will last. A recent tweet: "Can see teargas plumes and police charging from AP office. Protesters fighting back."

CNN's Ben Wedeman, (@bencnn) based in Cairo, also appears to be able to get the word out via Twitter. Recent tweet: "Tear gas being fired on protesters under 6 October Bridge on Corniche Al-Nil."

Jan 25 Voice (@Jan25Voices) claims to be talking to people on the phone inside Egypt and then relaying those eyewitness reports via Twitter. January 25 refers to the first days of protests in Egypt, and has now become a Twitter hashtag to report on news coming out of that country. You can follow the Jan25 hashtag here.
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=#Jan25

Recent tweet: "So far today? Attacks on protesters, press. Internet, cell phone service cut. Nobel laureate arrested. And day still young."


Connect with Ian Paul (@ianpaul) and Today@PCWorld on Twitter for the latest tech news and analysis.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 02:14 PM
Trying to make sense of the violence and upheaval in Egypt? Take 51 seconds and have it explained to you by Juju, a precocious 8-year-old Saudi girl.

sadaist
01-31-2011, 02:32 PM
The police officers are doing that so they don't get killed. lol

I can sum up the whole Egypt-Tunisia-Yemen-and anywhere else thing real simply........People want to be free.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 02:34 PM
Target number one is always the media and press. The shooting begins at the television station before the shooting happens at the presidential palace. I think the internet scares the hell out of people who abuse power. You don't know anything has been organized until the wave hits you.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 02:38 PM
The police officers are doing that so they don't get killed. lol

I can sum up the whole Egypt-Tunisia-Yemen-and anywhere else thing real simply........People want to be free.

It's the economy. This is only the begining. Corporations, banks, and governments went broke and then charged the losses to a credit card the public is expected to pay with increasing food, tax and fuel prices with job loses. People are finding out they basically got screwed and the politician happy talk is wearing thin. This just isn't a middle east thing. We will see it go down in the US in the next year or two. Europe is already showing signs of people getting fed up.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 02:51 PM
Once the government turns to chaos everyone with a gun can be a policeman.

sadaist
01-31-2011, 04:29 PM
the internet scares the hell out of people who abuse power.


Probably why EVH doesn't embrace it.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 04:58 PM
http://change-production.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/0/sc/ay/SWSCAYvCCeKOFOv-250.jpg

Change.org members in Egypt are asking all of us to support them.

Late on Saturday night, two pro-Democracy activists -- a young man and a young woman who've asked that we not use their names out of fear of imprisonment and torture -- started a petition on Change.org, dictating the text to an ally over a phone line because the government has shut down the internet throughout the country.

These Egyptians -- activists participating in what is being called the "January 25 Movement" -- believe we're at a possible tipping point within the country. The Egyptian army has is siding with the protesters, the President has already been forced to dismiss his entire cabinet, and there are unconfirmed reports that some members of the ruling family are leaving the country.

These Egyptian activists believe that a flood of international support right now can help to change the course of Egypt's history for decades to come.

This is extremely urgent -- please don't wait to take action. Click here now to add your name to this critical petition for democracy started by these two Egyptian activists on behalf of the January 25 Movement:

http://www.change.org/petitions/support_the_peoples_revolution_in_egypt_

Thanks for taking action today,

Patrick and the Change.org Team

P.S. Here's the text of the petition: (You can see the original version in Arabic here.)

http://www.change.org/petitions/support-the-peoples-revolution-in-egypt-

On January 25, we the people of Egypt took to the streets to demand our rights!

We are not unified by one party, class or religion: we are not Muslim and we are not Christian, we are not rich and we are not poor - we are the multifaceted people of Egypt - Muslims and Christians and Egyptians of all classes.

We demand our civil, political and human rights.

We demand the immediate resignation of the president and parliament.

We demand a new constitution.

We demand free and fair elections.

We demand the complete and total release of all political prisoners and detainees.

We demand the return of open access to all communication networks.

We demand that the police stop shooting at us, stop their brutality and stop their attacks on journalists.

We are the January 25 movement, and we are not going to stop until our demands are met!

We call on Egyptians and our international supporters to sign this petition of support, which will be sent to Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, officials in the interior and foreign ministries, and Egyptian embassies all over the world.

Add your name:

http://www.change.org/petitions/support_the_peoples_revolution_in_egypt_

Switch84
01-31-2011, 08:48 PM
egypt updates it's facebook status to 'it's complicated'.

:hee::hee::hee: Yeah, no SHIT...

Satan
01-31-2011, 09:19 PM
The police officers are doing that so they don't get killed. lol

I can sum up the whole Egypt-Tunisia-Yemen-and anywhere else thing real simply........People want to be free.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJKwSJdVNsY

Seshmeister
01-31-2011, 09:21 PM
Add your name:

http://www.change.org/petitions/support_the_peoples_revolution_in_egypt_

Call me an old cynic but I'm not convinced that the crucial factor here will be an internet petition of foreigners...

Blaze
01-31-2011, 10:17 PM
Call me an old cynic but I'm not convinced that the crucial factor here will be an internet petition of foreigners...

I somewhat agree with you, I think it should be also be sent to the the UN officials for documentation of occurrence and delivery.

However, it is a formal communication with those targeted:

Targeting: Ambassador Sameh Shoukry (السفير سامح شكري), President Hosni Mubarak (الرئيس حسني مبارك), General Habib Ibrahim El Adly (حبيب ابراهيم العادلي‎), and Prime Minister Ahmed Shafiq (احمد محمد شفيق‎)


I notice it seems to be USA citizens significantly, but anyone can sign it from across the world and have.

If you would please take a moment and add your Scottish voice echoing the January 25 movement.


25,000 signatures and counting! Let's go for 35,000. · about 1 hour ago

Benjamin Joffe-Walt
It's after midnight in Cairo yet tens of thousands are camping out, preparing for tomorrow's "march of millions"

about 4 hours ago
20000th signer — Lana Henson from Oklahoma City, OK · about 4 hours ago
17500th signer — Nate Nguyen from Chicago, IL · about 5 hours ago
15,000 signatures and counting! Let's go for 25,000. · about 6 hours ago
12500th signer — Robert Stedman from Las Vegas, NV · about 7 hours ago
10,000 signatures and counting! Let's go for 15,000. · about 8 hours ago
9000th signer — Denise Coppola from Clifton Park, NY · about 8 hours ago

Benjamin Joffe-Walt
9pm in Cairo: 250,000 protestors in Cairo's Tahrir Square. Opposition preparing for "march of millions" tomorrow to mark one week anniversary of the start of protests.

about 8 hours ago
8000th signer — Farris Jackson from winfield, WV · about 8 hours ago

Blaze
01-31-2011, 10:24 PM
Petitions by Change.org|Start a Petition »

Seshmeister
01-31-2011, 10:30 PM
What if they spin it as a foreign backed coup?

Switch84
01-31-2011, 10:38 PM
Target number one is always the media and press. The shooting begins at the television station before the shooting happens at the presidential palace. I think the internet scares the hell out of people who abuse power. You don't know anything has been organized until the wave hits you.

Truedat.

Nitro Express
01-31-2011, 10:43 PM
Call me an old cynic but I'm not convinced that the crucial factor here will be an internet petition of foreigners...

Out with the czar in with Lenin. Out with the king in with Napoleon.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 10:45 PM
Who are "they" Sesh?

If one considers Facebook and Social Networking foreign then the question arises, "Is this a coup?"

In today's world one cannot avoid a global discussion.

There is no leader
The Egyptian public has gathered around a concept.

and elections are a quick clip away.

Blaze
01-31-2011, 10:58 PM
Egypt's army promises no force against protesters

By HAMZA HENDAWI and MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press – 1 hr 7 mins ago
CAIRO – Egypt's military pledged not to fire on protesters in a sign that army support for President Hosni Mubarak may be unraveling on the eve of a major escalation — a push for a million people to take to the streets Tuesday to demand the authoritarian leader's ouster.


http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/7/ce/7ce3cdb6ff6878e3a502b981bef8ffbf.jpeg



If I was trying to keep my dictatorship, I would cut electricity tonight

Blaze
01-31-2011, 11:37 PM
Google launches Twitter workaround for Egypt

By Alexei Oreskovic – 1 hr 40 mins ago
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – Google Inc launched a special service to allow people in Egypt to send Twitter messages by dialing a phone number and leaving a voicemail, as Internet access remains cut off in the country amid anti-government protests.
"Like many people we've been glued to the news unfolding in Egypt and thinking of what we could do to help people on the ground," read a post on Google's official corporate blog on Monday.
The service, which Google said was developed with engineers from Twitter, allows people to dial a telephone number and leave a voicemail. The voicemail is automatically translated into an audio file message that is sent on Twitter using the identifying tag #egypt, Google said.
Google said in the blog post, titled "Some weekend work that will (hopefully) enable more Egyptians to be heard," that no Internet connection is needed to use the service.
It listed three phone numbers for people to call to use the service.
Internet social networking services like Twitter and Facebook have been important tools of communications for protesters in Egypt who have taken to the streets since last week to demonstrate against the 30-year rule of President Hosni Mubarak.
Internet service has been suspended around the country and phone text messaging has been disabled.
A source familiar with the matter said Google, whose corporate motto is "Don't Be Evil," was not taking sides in the crisis in Egypt, but was simply supporting access to information as it has done with other services such as video website YouTube.
YouTube has been streaming live coverage of Al Jazeera's broadcasts of the events in Egypt.
Dozens of the so-called speak-to-tweet messages were featured on Twitter on Monday. The messages ranged from a few seconds to several minutes and featured people identifying themselves as Egyptians and describing the situations in various parts of the country.
"The government is spreading rumors of fear and of burglary and of violence," said one of the messages from an English speaker. "The only incidence of theft and burglary are done by the police themselves."
Google listed the following numbers for people to use the service: +16504194196 or +390662207294 or +97316199855.
(Editing by Bill Trott and Christopher Wilson)

Blaze
01-31-2011, 11:38 PM
It will be next to impossible to figure out if the tweets are real or "created". There was the same problem with the so-called tweets from Iran.

Hardrock69
02-01-2011, 02:03 AM
CNN has been broadcasting the phone numbers for people in Egypt to call.

The Million March has already begun.

Mubarek must go.

Yes he has been a staunch ally in the Middle East, and a good go-between for the Arab world and the West.

But what the fuck has he done for his people lately?

The bastard has been in power for 30 years! ANY NORMAL DEMOCRACY WILL CHANGE RULERS EVERY FEW YEARS! I mean hey, a popular politician might get re-elected a few times, but eventually they all wear out their welcome. Any leader who is in office more than 10 years is not allowing the people to determine who rules the country.

Time for him to go. He is 82 anyway. Time to take his bottle of hair dye and go live somewhere else where he can play with his billions.

I have had CNN on all evening as background noise. Fucking serious shit going on over there.

The sooner Hosni leaves Egypt, the better.

Nitro Express
02-01-2011, 02:11 AM
After spending a year in the middle east I came up with the same conclusion as Gene Simmons. In an interview it was brought up that Gene was born in Israel and Gene was asked if he visited there often. Gene said he had relatives there and would go over for weddings and funerals but other than that, avoided the place. When asked why Gene said the middle east is the armpit of the world. I agree with Gene. Seeing the history was interesting but I have no desire ever to go back there. It's my least favorite part of the world. It's been unstable my whole life. It was unstable before I was born. It will be unstable after I'm dead. I can remember when everyone got their hopes up over President Saddat. Look what happened. The middle east thing happened.

Nitro Express
02-01-2011, 02:13 AM
After seeing these lifetime senators and congressmen we have, I want term limits on those guys as well. Our president only can serve two terms, it should be the same for the congress.

Seshmeister
02-01-2011, 08:30 AM
We could use that rule too, we now have a political class of people who never get a proper job just going from college to political advisor to a safe seat somewhere for life.

Could be kind of tricky to get them to vote for that change to the law though...

Jesus Christ
02-01-2011, 06:13 PM
My children, here is one lesson ye may learn from what is taking place in Egypt and these other nations....

The vile satanic doctrines of PNAC and the Son of Bush, and the wars that resulted from them were never necessary.

Yes, most of you already knew that. But even those who were deceived by the "spreading democracy" lie can now see that when the people of those nations want a change, they will demand it.

And I say this not as only the Son of God or the Son of Man, but as one who spent His entire life on Earth living in that particular region of the planet, including a few years in Egypt when I was a kid. Obviously some things are different 2000 years later, but not everything.

Hardrock69
02-01-2011, 10:50 PM
Heh.....all Mubarek did was piss the people off with his speech. Somehow I expected it. Fucking goober needs to announce that he is stepping down, ask for a month or so to move all his belongings to Switzerland, then go there and die.

Obama's speech was short and to the point: The Egyptian People have spoken. The time for you to get the fuck out is NOW.

Dumbass has had 30 fucking years. Game is over. Please leave by the nearest exit.

Hardrock69
02-01-2011, 10:57 PM
He Sesh, Kermit has been jacking off Fozzy for how many years now? Fozzy has a career in pr0n ahead of him. Being jacked off by a little green frog 24/7/365 for years and still has a stiffy and still has not splooged. Gotta be some kinda record.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, The Hosni Mubarek Comedy Hour! :D

Blaze
02-01-2011, 11:45 PM
I should like to say Penis
However, I would be advised not to say Penis!

I observed today fear.

There is no reason to fear your place.

Corruption is an issue, not a person.

Graces,
Blaze


Please meditate if you are not able to digest.

Nitro Express
02-01-2011, 11:46 PM
He Sesh, Kermit has been jacking off Fozzy for how many years now? Fozzy has a career in pr0n ahead of him. Being jacked off by a little green frog 24/7/365 for years and still has a stiffy and still has not splooged. Gotta be some kinda record.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, The Hosni Mubarek Comedy Hour! :D

Kermit has to have an arm like Popeye by now.

Hardrock69
02-02-2011, 12:17 AM
No shit!

FORD
02-02-2011, 11:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP04aWWCDeQ

ashstralia
02-03-2011, 05:56 AM
don't change the av, sesh!!!! :(

Seshmeister
02-03-2011, 06:25 AM
He Sesh, Kermit has been jacking off Fozzy for how many years now? Fozzy has a career in pr0n ahead of him. Being jacked off by a little green frog 24/7/365 for years and still has a stiffy and still has not splooged. Gotta be some kinda record.


Well you can tell it's a strain by his expression...

Blaze
02-04-2011, 12:00 AM
Mubarak 'would like to step down, but fears chaos'


~
I woke back up to post this. It seemed puzzling when I read it. I posted a question, but I know I will not return to the mass to read any replies.
But my question haunted me. Moreover, disturbed my dreamscape greatly.

I stated and asked, "This man is delusional. He is as delusional as Sadam was. What, who, and how exactly are these puppet regimes leaders "socialized"? I mean, they seem brainwashed, how does that happen?"

~
The article is long, I am not going to post it all...

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/afp_logo_51.png

by Samer al-Atrush – 1 hr 22 mins ago
CAIRO (AFP) – Egypt's embattled President Hosni Mubarak said ahead of the opposition-designated "departure day" for him to quit on Friday that he would like to step down but feared ensuing chaos.

The 82-year-old veteran president said he was "fed-up with being president and would like to leave office now, but cannot, he says, for fear that the country would sink into chaos," ABC television's Christiane Amanpour reported after an interview in Cairo.

Mubarak spoke as deadly clashes between his opponents and supporters raged for a second day and after his vice president urged protesters to go home, also criticising their demands for the president's ouster as a "call for chaos."

link withheld

Hardrock69
02-04-2011, 12:34 AM
Err.....doesn't this fucking idiot understand that by STAYING IN OFFICE it is going to create even MORE chaos?

If he TRULY cares about the Egyptian people he will step down NOW before the country descends into CIVIL WAR!!!!! :mad:

sadaist
02-04-2011, 01:20 AM
He Sesh, Kermit has been jacking off Fozzy for how many years now? Fozzy has a career in pr0n ahead of him. Being jacked off by a little green frog 24/7/365 for years and still has a stiffy and still has not splooged. Gotta be some kinda record.




The reason he hasn't splooged yet is because of what he is staring ahead at. We can't see it due to the camera angle, but I emailed Beaker about it. The answer, attached to his reply.......



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BEogiLoYMCk/TGjFrqdye8I/AAAAAAAAAzA/8nOU7FIEbnM/s400/7+Rosie+O%27Donnell.jpg

Seshmeister
02-04-2011, 07:44 PM
http://www.fashion-stylist.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/image/count-von-count-sesame-street.jpg

Count

http://kashakeel.elaphblog.com/Blog/kashakeel/album/%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1%20%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%8 8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/hosni%20mubarak.jpg

Cunt

FORD
02-04-2011, 08:02 PM
Err.....doesn't this fucking idiot understand that by STAYING IN OFFICE it is going to create even MORE chaos?

If he TRULY cares about the Egyptian people he will step down NOW before the country descends into CIVIL WAR!!!!! :mad:

Hosni needs to watch a couple speeches from our own lifetime........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB2-3G2Yy74


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN8OfPc_aQ8

ELVIS
02-04-2011, 10:42 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/02/04/egypt.us.response/index.html?hpt=T1


:elvis:

ELVIS
02-04-2011, 10:42 PM
Awww...:(

FORD
02-04-2011, 11:00 PM
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<div id="BlogContent"><p><img src="http://www.BradBlog.com/Images/RushLimbaugh_AmericasShame.jpg" hspace="6" vspace="3" border="0" align="right">Rush Limbaugh is a disgusting human being. But you probably knew that. If you didn't, audio from his show today --- which is broadcast over <i>our</i> public airwaves to some 15 million Americans a day, and even over U.S. Armed Forces Radio --- makes it as clear as ever.</p>

<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102030018" target="_blank">First</a> <sup>[1]</sup>, as highlighted by Media Matters, Limbaugh made light of foreign journalists, including two reporters from the <i>New York Times</i>, being <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/world/middleeast/04journalists.html" target="_blank">rounded-up in Cairo today</a> <sup>[2]</sup> because being detained while covering a story of huge import to this nation and the world, by a regime that has spent decades torturing such people is, of course, hilarious...</p>
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<div class="media">LIMBAUGH: Ladies and gentlemen, it is being breathlessly reported that the Egyptian army --- Snerdley, have you heard this? The Egyptian army is rounding up foreign journalists.</p>
<p>I mean, even two New York Times reporters were detained. Now, this is supposed to make us feel what, exactly? How we supposed to feel? Are we supposed to feel outrage over it? I don't feel any outrage over it. Are we supposed to feel anger? I don't feel any anger over this. Do we feel happy? Well --- uh --- do we feel kind of going like, "neh-neh-neh-neh"?</p>

<p>I'm sure that your emotions are running the gamut when you hear that two New York Times reporters have been detained along with other journalists in Egypt. Remember now, we're supporting the people who are doing this. </div>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102030026" target="_blank">Next</a> <sup>[3]</sup>, later on in the very the same show, after he's learned that two <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/03/white-house-condemns-systematic-targeting-journalists-egypt/" target="_blank"><i>Fox "News" reporters</i> had been beaten and hospitalized</a> <sup>[4]</sup> following detention in Egypt, suddenly Rush gives a damn, and says he was just "kidding before about The New York Times"...</p>
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<div class="media">LIMBAUGH: According to Mediaite, Fox News' Greg Palkot and crew have been severely beaten and are now hospitalized in Cairo. Now we were kidding before about The New York Times, of course. This kind of stuff is terrible. We wouldn't wish this kind of thing even on reporters.</div>

<p>Moral depravity. As appalling as it gets.</p>
<p>For the record, as White House correspondent Paul Brandus <a href="http://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/32994065821736960" target="_blank">tweeted</a> <sup>[5]</sup> last night as the round-up was beginning, "79 journalists were killed around the world last year - just for trying to tell a story."</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpj.org/killed/" target="_blank">According to the Committee to Protect Journalists</a> <sup>[6]</sup>, 849 journalists have been killed since 1992. Isn't that hysterical, Rush?</p>
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<p><b>UPDATE 2/4/11:</b> ABC News has compiled a rather lengthy <a href="http://abcworldnews.tumblr.com/post/3089328425/weve-compiled-a-list-of-all-the-journalist-who" target="_blank">list of the journalists rounded-up</a> <sup>[7]</sup> in Egypt this week and what happened to each. Rachel Maddow explains <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_02/027838.php" target="_blank">why she believes it is being done</a> <sup>[8]</sup>.

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Nitro Express
02-04-2011, 11:25 PM
This thing is all up in the air. It's hard to tell who's in control and who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. My main question is what do you replace Murabek with?

Nitro Express
02-04-2011, 11:26 PM
We can see if Rush Limbaugh wants to run Egypt. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: That's one way to get rid of him.

ELVIS
02-04-2011, 11:34 PM
Why are people far out on the left so afraid of Limbaugh and Palin ??

FORD
02-04-2011, 11:36 PM
Who's afraid of them? I just can't fucking stand hypocrites.

Nitro Express
02-05-2011, 12:07 AM
Why are people far out on the left so afraid of Limbaugh and Palin ??

Because they are the people who have you Republicans mind controlled.:biggrin: I heard Limbaugh and Palin were MKULTRA drones

Dr. Love
02-05-2011, 01:20 AM
Best part of this whole thing is the armor that the protestors have started to wear:

http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176563-galleryV9-mzie.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-177019-galleryV9-tsio.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176506-galleryV9-qmqr.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176437-galleryV9-mjsv.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet1.jpg

This guy has the right idea
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet2.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet4.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet5.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/randomness-hq-friday-1.jpg

ELVIS
02-05-2011, 03:38 AM
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/gallery/shkin/buckethead.jpg


:biggrin:

Blaze
02-05-2011, 04:56 AM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110204/capt.ea8ea877ee204b66ada790d3522ed9c5-ea8ea877ee204b66ada790d3522ed9c5-0.jpg
(AP Photo/Emilio Morenatti)

By MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN and HADEEL AL-SHALCHI, Associated Press – Fri Feb 4, 5:11 pm ET



CAIRO – Men with freshly bandaged heads marched through Tahrir Square on Friday, the wounded, victorious veterans of two days of street battles against supporters of President Hosni Mubarak.

A child made a victory sign with a bandaged hand and stared blankly into the distance. The men chanted for those killed battling for a few city blocks with showers of rocks and sheet metal shields on Wednesday and Thursday.

"Oh martyrs on the door of heaven!" they shouted. "Oh martyrs, rest. We'll continue the struggle!"

As the afternoon faded, the crowd of around 100,000 walked slowly around the square. A young man handed out cookies with quiet purpose, as if he was fueling his comrades for more fighting.

Suddenly, a clanging echoed across the square. Young men banged lengths of iron rebar against a metal fence and hundreds rushed out of the square and into a street heading east toward downtown.
Hundreds of Mubarak supporters in nearby Talat Harb Square were moving down the street toward Tahrir Square.

"Whenever they start approaching, we start giving that alert," said Karim, a 28-year-old engineer who spoke in English and declined to give his last name for fear of government retaliation.

Everywhere, the roadway was broken up into fist-sized chunks of asphalt — and the two sides showered each other with volleys until a mass of bloodied fighters swarmed back into Tahrir, or Liberation, Square with a captured pro-government man in their midst.

"They don't hit them, they don't beat them up," said Bahaa Kialani, a 35-year-old employee of a public relations company.

The crowd moved over to a tank guarding the northern approach to the square, where demonstrators said they were handing him over to the army.

Health Minister Ahmed Sameh Farid said 28 protesters suffered mostly minor wounds Friday and three more people died from injuries sustained in clashes in the square on Wednesday and Thursday, driving up the death toll from those two days to 11. The Tahrir clashes brought the number of deaths since protests began Jan. 25 to 109 people.

Officials have said about 900 people had been wounded in the two days of fighting around Tahrir.
Mohammed Awash, a 25-year-old computer science teacher, wore a plastic construction helmet tied to his head with a scarf.

"We'll be destroyed if we don't fight so hard," he said. "We made the lion angry. If we give up now, it's going to come back fiercer than it was before."

Across the square, people threw trash down the steps of the Sadat Metro station, where it piled up against metal gates that had been pulled shut, chained and barred with a timber from a construction site to make a jail for pro-Mubarak fighters captured in the rock battles.

Demonstrators said those captives had been taken away by the army too.

The military presence was heavy around the square. A lieutenant speaking flawless American English checked IDs at the first checkpoint on the west side of the Kasr el-Nil bridge. Across the bridge, soldiers with black riot helmets, bulletproof vests and Kalashnikovs with folding stocks stood behind razor-wire while hundreds of people filed through a narrow gantlet formed by dozens more soldiers.

Battered pieces of sheet metal that had been used to haul rocks and shield fighters from rains of stones lay abandoned on the ground.

Serious-looking young men in civilian clothes checked IDs and bags, separating women and men for quick pat downs.

Yet another civilian checkpoint, and the crowd dispersed into Tahrir Square.

A group of young bloggers gathered in an area under an ornate lamppost that protesters have come to call "upper-class corner."

Four words were spray-painted on the green metal gates of the shuttered Egyptrav tour company nearby. In English, it read "Facebook" and "Twitter." In Arabic, "Youth" and "Al-Jazeera."

Attorneys Ahmad Fathi, 47, and Osama el-Feyana, 43, strolled through the square together.

"The hairs on my arm are standing on end. I have goose bumps," Fathi said. "As lawyers we were always told we could say whatever we want but there was never any freedom. I owe a lot to the youths. They were able to move that barrier of fear and allow us to come here today."

The square was filled with members of Egypt's struggling middle-class, men who said they were educated as engineers and teachers but found themselves unable to support their families, or even find an apartment and get married. There was a heavy presence of men with the long beards and shaved upper lips of Salafis — ultra-conservatives preaching a return to the ways of early Muslims.

One was Gharib Ibrahim, a 35-year-old painter with worn shoes and a kaffiyeh wrapped around his head.

He said he had come to help turn Egypt into a country where he could have rights including "the ability to find a good job, the ability to get an apartment without having to know somebody who knows somebody."

Another was Alaa Mohammed, a 40-year-old religious studies teacher who showed the scars on his wrist from where, he said, security forces had hung him by a rope when he was jailed from 1994-2006 for what he said were political activities.

"They were just jailing Islamists," he said.

Sometimes, he said, electrodes were attached to his ears to deliver electric shocks.

"I challenge anyone to bear the torture of having electricity pulsed into your ears," he said. "Only Allah saved me."
___
Diaa Hadid contributed to this report.

Blaze
02-05-2011, 05:07 AM
And this is just such an awesome photo!
The spirit of her shines through.
I like how the artist painted her face gave it a Picasso feel, very intriguing.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20110204/capt.photo_1296847841323-10-0.jpg
(AFP/Patrick Baz)

Huge crowds turn out for Mubarak departure ...
An Egyptian anti-government protester with her face painted in the colours of her national flag stands at Tahrir Square in Cairo. Egyptian demonstrators held a massive "departure day" show of force on Friday aimed at ousting President Hosni Mubarak as both the United States and Europe indicated the time has come for him to step down.

Blaze
02-05-2011, 05:13 AM
Why are people far out on the left so afraid of Limbaugh and Palin ??

Why do you take pleasure observing them defecating, urinating and in general spewing vile from their gluttonous spirit ?

Or in other words,
Why do you relish them pissing and pooing for profit?

FORD
02-05-2011, 03:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5_EbZlLPfw

Nitro Express
02-06-2011, 02:15 AM
That's what my cousin said. The military was all over the place but they were doing nothing. Egypt has always had a very strong police presence. For every uniformed cop you would see there would be three others who you didn't see. Egypt's main industry is tourism so that is where all the focus went and the rest of Egypt has been sorely neglected. Too many people and not enough industry. The typical story.

Nitro Express
02-06-2011, 02:21 AM
Not that I'm a fan of the corrupt Israeli government but when I lived there you could actually see where the border ended. Israel is green due to high tech drip irrigation and much of it is green and as soon as you get to the border, it's back to desert. There is also a lot of industry and high tech in Israel where there are more PHD's per capita than any other nation. I always heard there if the land was turned back to the Palestinians, the desert would reclaim the land and it would go back to the dark ages again. I have to admit, the Jews are more educated and motivated than their arab neighbors.

Nitro Express
02-06-2011, 02:36 AM
Best part of this whole thing is the armor that the protestors have started to wear:

http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176563-galleryV9-mzie.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-177019-galleryV9-tsio.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176506-galleryV9-qmqr.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-176437-galleryV9-mjsv.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet1.jpg

This guy has the right idea
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet2.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet4.jpg
http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/helmet5.jpg
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/randomness-hq-friday-1.jpg

I get most of it. Head protection. The cooking pot and bucket would probably work the best but bread buns?:biggrin: He looks like an angry fast food mascot.

Seshmeister
02-06-2011, 08:39 PM
This is why no one will leave Tahrir Square. This is a video from Alexandria, 31/01/2011

The kid was probably angry because his friend was shot, so he walked up to the police, he showed them he had no weapons on him, but they still shot him anyways when he was leaving.

The death toll from the violence had risen to 54 dead and 1,000 injured by 28 January. As of 30 January, Al-Jazeera reported as many as 150 deaths in the protests. As of 29 January, at least 102 people were known to have died, many or most shot. The dead included at least 10 policemen, 3 of whom were killed in Rafah.

By 29 January, 2,000 people were known to be injured.[ The same day, an employee of the Azerbaijani embassy in Egypt was killed while returning home from work in Cairo; the next day Azerbaijan sent a plane to evacuate citizens and opened a criminal investigation into the death.

Funerals for the dead on the "Friday of Anger" were held on 30 January. Hundreds of mourners gathered for the funerals calling for Mubarak's removal. By 1 February, the protests had left at least 125 people dead, although UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay stated that as many as 300 people may have died in anti-government unrest in Egypt according to a report by Human Rights Watch. This unconfirmed tally included 80 HRW-verified deaths at two Cairo hospitals, 36 in Alexandria, and 13 in the port city of Suez, amongst others; over 3,000 people were also reported as injured.

Leading up to the protests, at least six cases of self-immolation were reported, including a man arrested while trying to set himself on fire in downtown Cairo. These cases were inspired by, and began exactly one month after, the acts of self-immolation in Tunisia triggering the 2010--2011 Tunisian uprising. Six instances have been reported, including acts by Abdou Abdel-Moneim Jaafar, Mohammed Farouk Hassan, Mohammed Ashour Sorour, and Ahmed Hashim al-Sayyed who later died from his injuries.

Blaze
02-07-2011, 02:36 AM
Not that I'm a fan of the corrupt Israeli government but when I lived there you could actually see where the border ended. Israel is green due to high tech drip irrigation and much of it is green and as soon as you get to the border, it's back to desert. There is also a lot of industry and high tech in Israel where there are more PHD's per capita than any other nation. I always heard there if the land was turned back to the Palestinians, the desert would reclaim the land and it would go back to the dark ages again. I have to admit, the Jews are more educated and motivated than their arab neighbors.
So altered state is "more educated and motivated"?

Ox

ELVIS
02-07-2011, 08:41 AM
You're an idiot...

chefcraig
02-07-2011, 08:56 AM
You're an idiot...

That's a bit harsh, E. "Medicinally incoherent" on the other hand...

ELVIS
02-07-2011, 09:01 AM
Too bad she's not famous, Dr Drew needs the ratings...

chefcraig
02-07-2011, 09:23 AM
You have a point. Watching her, Gary Busey, Tom Sizemore and Mackenzie Phillips debate just about anything, let alone find their way into a room without knocking over the furniture could be the sort of train wreck tv that is just what the doctor ordered, pardon the pun.

ELVIS
02-07-2011, 09:39 AM
:biggrin:

FORD
02-07-2011, 12:04 PM
Gary Busey is going to be Trump's problem now. He's on Celebrity Apprentice starting next month. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the damn thing, because there's no way that lunatic gets fired early.

chefcraig
02-07-2011, 12:15 PM
Gary Busey is going to be Trump's problem now. He's on Celebrity Apprentice starting next month. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the damn thing, because there's no way that lunatic gets fired early.

Yeah, I read an article about that over the weekend. Apparently Trump is taken with the guy, saying he was "Very interesting." In even odder news, the Golf Channel has OK'ed Trump's ghastly show (that he uses to show off his various courses) on that network for a second season, this time consisting of 17 episodes. Then again, this is the same channel that thought it was a great idea to hire the insufferable and talent-free Jim Gray as an analyst, when no one in the industry would have anything to do with him.

Hardrock69
02-08-2011, 10:57 PM
Hello Gnashville!

http://i51.tinypic.com/2zxysr4.jpg

Driving along today, these people were VERY loud. Would have all easily won the audition to be part of a Van Halen concert audience! :D

Seshmeister
02-09-2011, 06:35 AM
Too young and too 'ethnic' for a Van Halen crowd.

There are Klan rallies with more dark faces than the average US Van Halen show.

Hardrock69
02-09-2011, 10:49 AM
True but I was not judging them on skin color. I was judging them on VOLUME.

Nitro Express
02-09-2011, 11:35 AM
Too young and too 'ethnic' for a Van Halen crowd.

There are Klan rallies with more dark faces than the average US Van Halen show.

I dragged a black friend of mine to a Van Halen show. His motive was possibly picking up some chicks and partying afterwards but he was cracking me up. He was saying shit like,"Oh man, I'm going to be surrounded by stoned rednecks in mullets." He got really drunk before the show saying,"Van Fucking Halen!" and acting like some dorky fan. It was pretty funny.

Nitro Express
02-09-2011, 11:43 AM
Gary Busey is going to be Trump's problem now. He's on Celebrity Apprentice starting next month. And I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the damn thing, because there's no way that lunatic gets fired early.

Trump is pretty funny. He said he constantly told Jesse James,"how in the hell did you end up with Sandra Bullock?" Then he said he thought Clint Black and Jesse James were going to kill each other. He said that was real heated. Trump said he makes a lot of money off the show and it's helped make TRUMP an international brand but he said the drama is never boring and sometimes what the cameras don't pick up is the best.

FORD
02-10-2011, 01:05 PM
**Breaking now***

Mubarak expected to step down within the hour.

That's the good news. Bad news is Sulieman is as bad or worse. And he ruined a perfectly good Neil Diamond song having that name (even though he spells it differently)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ73Dc0pC8M

SunisinuS
02-10-2011, 01:14 PM
This is the song that never ends....it just goes on and on my friends...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_successful_coups_d%27%C3%A9tat

Hope they raise a toast to Jefferson instead of Pol Pot.

Blaze
02-10-2011, 02:42 PM
This is the song that never ends....it just goes on and on my friends...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_successful_coups_d%27%C3%A9tat

Hope they raise a toast to Jefferson instead of Pol Pot.

Actually, what occurred was a revolution, not a coup d'état.
Though it did begin with a coup de tête between a fruit peddler and a police department.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Mohamed_Bouazizi_candle.jpg/800px-Mohamed_Bouazizi_candle.jpg
Born Tarek el-Tayyib Mohamed Bouazizi
March 29, 1984
Sidi Bouzid, Tunisia
Died January 4, 2011 (aged 26)
Ben Arous, Tunisia
Resting place Garaat Bennour cemetery
Nationality Tunisian
Occupation Street vendor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_de_t%C3%AAte_(disambiguation)

word meaning headbutt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d'%C3%A9tat

... small group of the existing state establishment ...
{...}
In Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook, military historian Edward Luttwak says, "A coup consists of the infiltration of a small, but critical, segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder", thus, armed force (either military or paramilitary) is not a defining feature of a coup d'état.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time.

Hardrock69
02-10-2011, 05:09 PM
Oh noz......the shit gon' hit the fan now.

Mubarek did not say he would step down.

Vice President basically said the same thing.

Now the masses are marching towards the Presidential palace and the State TV complex.

If I were Mubarak, I would get the fuck out of Egypt now!

Seshmeister
02-10-2011, 05:13 PM
This could be a good opportunity for Britain to step in and get some more antiquities.

Blaze
02-11-2011, 01:12 AM
The military needs to step aside and let the man fall from grace with his "perceived" noble last stand on Egyptian soil. Most likely, God willing, from the examples of how other captives have been handled they will seize him and place him in jail. Then, God have mercy, the man will remain on Egyptian soil until time to address his soul.
This crowd has shown good leadership when addressing prisoner's well-being. :)

Blaze
02-11-2011, 01:19 AM
If the crowd does break into the palace, I worry for his well-being. It is difficult for a crowd return civil after an adrenalin rush. Moreover, the chances are high of a person/s martyring Mubarak during the inevitable "perp walk".

Blaze
02-11-2011, 01:25 AM
And that would truly be a tragic occurrence if one of his followers murdered him to save his honor. :(
I do have sympathy for an old man and his envisioned (wishful) self.

Nitro Express
02-11-2011, 01:49 AM
This could be a good opportunity for Britain to step in and get some more antiquities.
:biggrin:

Send in Lawrence of Arabia II to do the job.

Nitro Express
02-11-2011, 01:51 AM
Oh noz......the shit gon' hit the fan now.

Mubarek did not say he would step down.

Vice President basically said the same thing.

Now the masses are marching towards the Presidential palace and the State TV complex.

If I were Mubarak, I would get the fuck out of Egypt now!

Since the military is not following orders and they have the tanks, I don't think some razor wire is going to keep El Presidente safe.

Nitro Express
02-11-2011, 01:52 AM
Murbarak will probably shoot himself in the bunker after he realizes there is no escape. We can only hope so.

Blaze
02-11-2011, 11:18 AM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/3/3e/33e5cb5be3068ecef7656d16b1c8df42.jpeg
That looks so much like Mecca. The exuberance is quite ... My heart becomes banded and a tear of amazement often escapes before controlled emotions return. :)
I bet mecca has a song... Let us hunt!
Call to God! Goodness, Paul!

I will not get to see the video for a few hours. I selected by title and have since read the lyrics.

sadaist
02-11-2011, 11:57 AM
That looks so much like Mecca. The exuberance is quite ... My heart becomes banded and a tear of amazement often escapes before controlled emotions return. :)



I see thousands upon thousands of Egyptian flags being waved. These people love their country & risked everything these last 18 days. They didn't give up to political "calm down" speeches created to appease the masses. Words. It is a beautiful thing to see. But they are now on very shaky ground.

The grass is NOT always greener....

Like I said a couple weeks ago, I hope they get what it is they seek and not some new government based on which corrupt group currently holds the most power.

Seshmeister
02-11-2011, 02:32 PM
http://ismubarakstillpresident.com/

Seshmeister
02-11-2011, 02:37 PM
The president and the the vice president have resigned leaving the speaker of the house in charge.

If this had happened in the US there would currently be an orange man on TV crying...

jero
02-11-2011, 02:46 PM
for not winnig the WC final

Hardrock69
02-11-2011, 02:47 PM
I really could not believe the fucking speeches last night. ANY MORON should understand when he is being shown the door...BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!

YOU DO NOT UPSET THE MOB! TO DO SO IS THE ACTION OF AN IDIOT!

Seriously.....once the crowd began leaving the square and head for the palace, I was freaking out! I mean LIVE ON TV! A HUGE MOB WHO WAS MAD AS HELL, AND WASN'T GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!

I went to bed about 2 AM last night, worried about what was going to happen to the people.

Past history has shown it was more likely than not for the military to step in and brutally crush the resistance in this situation.

I MUST COMMEND THE EGYPTIAN ARMED FORCES FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, AND THEIR RESTRAINT, AS THEY TRULY HAVE SHOWN WHO THEY CARE ABOUT - THE PEOPLE OF EGYPT!!

I was at work, slaving on my computer, when I suddenly noticed Yahoo news saying Mubarak had stepped down.

As I work with a lotta honky conservative white boys, any comment made by yours truly about this situation would be met with statements indicative of dismissal, as in "uh......so?".

It surely would be nice someday to work with some people who at least have some concern for the planet or their fellow human beings.

This has been an incredible thing to witness.

I sincerely hope they are able to set up a valid and functional representative government that can actually succeed in Egypt.

Blaze
02-11-2011, 06:42 PM
Praise be unto God!

I grab my breast to assure I am here, then a mighty and vigorous titty shake!

Blaze
02-11-2011, 06:56 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/d/0c/d0c3eb8ca18907492a4b337b5cec5193.jpeg

CAIRO (Reuters) – Here are reactions from Egyptian opposition groups to President Hosni Mubarak's resignation.

ESSAM ERIAN, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

"This is a historical day for all Egyptians, thank God all Egyptians were united behind one goal, the overthrow of the regime and the building of a new democratic one. The ball is now in the court of the Higher Military Council, which has said that it is going to take sound measures. We are optimistic."
MOHAMED ELBARADEI, HEAD OF NATIONAL ASSOCATION FOR CHANGE
"We have waited for this day for decades. We all look forward to working with the military to prepare for free and fair elections. I look forward to a transitional period of co-sharing of power between the army and the people."

AYMAN NOUR, HEAD OF THE GHAD PARTY

"This is the greatest day in the history of Egypt, that will not be repeated. This nation has been born again. These people have been born again, and this is a new Egypt," he told Al Jazeera television.
"We look forward to the transition period which is a period that will take us to a civilian state that will meet our legitimate demands of having a civilian, free country," he said, adding that the nation would be based on human rights.
"I believe the army is aware of its mission in preserving the situation until we move to the civilian period," said Nour, who came a distant second to Mubarak in the 2005 race, the only multi-candidate presidential election to be held in Egypt.

GEORGE ISHAQ, FOUNDER OF THE KEFAYA MOVEMENT

"It's the greatest day in Egypt's history and it's a great day for the world. It was a spontaneous revolt without leadership, I've not seen anything like it. Egypt is the heart to the Arab world. This wave could sweep away all the tyrants in the Arab world, they are all shaking. Mubarak was the ultimate despot. He frustrated us all with his insistence on staying. It's unreal to see this, people who were so downtrodden do this after 30 years of injustice, corruption and despotism. This man was an ignorant despot."
"Now we'll discuss our demands with the army. We need six months to a year for transition. We need a technocrat government to form a committee to write a new constitution and then carry out parliament and presidential elections. The army understand the situation, their role is temporary."

MAHMOUD ABAZA, SENIOR FIGURE IN LIBERAL WAFD PARTY

"Many chances were lost to solve this crisis but thank God we found a solution. A president who should have been a symbol of the nation became a source of discord.
"We have closed the page on an Egypt that lasted a long time where Egyptians could not choose, hold accountable or change their leader. In these 50 years when all powers were placed in the head of state Egypt did not develop economically or democratically and many countries advanced ahead of Egypt."
"We must be careful of seeing off one dictatorship and stepping into another, so this is a critical period. The army could remain with old ideas and prefer the system over freedom, though this is not very likely. Secondly, a force like the Muslim Brotherhood could dominate the political process but we have enough experience to avoid this and they do too. Thirdly, the youth could lose hope and interest in public affairs and lose the power that can push Egypt into the future."

RIFAAT SAID, SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE LEFTIST TAGAMMU PARTY

"Mubarak made a lot of mistakes but he stepped down in the end and it was necessary he could not continue with the entire people demanding his resignation and it's clear the army played a central role in achieving this. I congratulate Egyptian youth, they have given us something nice and it'll be a model for many countries. The Higher Army Council has behaved in a balanced way and that's encouraging. They didn't use violent language or come out firing weapons. There is concern but I think the army knows how to sort things out."

(Writing by Andrew Hammond; editing by David Stamp)

FORD
02-11-2011, 09:38 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Ocelot48/motivator9ba62d312dee82e2d16c3e23270ac07588453036. jpg

Blaze
02-12-2011, 02:00 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/d/86/d863947c5f89d8532bc5dcbe7c2e5591.jpeg

By Nadia El-Awady

"I'm an Egyptian revolutionary! And I helped topple a dictator!"

That was the message I tweeted to the world soon after learning that Egyptian President Mohammed Hosni Mubarak had finally stepped down.

The rush of emotions I have felt since hearing the news has been almost crippling at times.
The Egyptian people had lived under a single dictatorial ruler for 30 years. It took less than three weeks for this regime to crumble.

For 18 days, more than 300 had died at the hands of the police and thugs reportedly leashed by the regime itself. Thousands were injured. Hundreds camped out in Tahrir Square, a majority with not much more than a single blanket to protect themselves from the elements. And yet millions of others marched day after day, voicing their demands that Mubarak and his regime leave.
During those 18 days, I marched, ran from tear gas and live ammunition, and then I marched some more. I visited Tahrir Square almost every day. I took pictures, I shot film, and at times I joined the protesters myself.

For the most part, when they were not being attacked, the mood among protestors was almost like a party; Tahrir Square felt like a carnival. On every corner, people sang, danced, recited poetry, discussed politics and, of course, marched round and round and round and round calling for an end to the regime.

Many displayed the sense of humor for which Egyptians are known all over the Arab world. One man held up a sign that said: "Leave now. I really need a shower." Others acted out comedic plays and sketches. A protester dressed up like a soccer referee and walked around the square blowing through his whistle and waving a red card that said "leave".

Another group of protesters who had come to Cairo from Sharqiya, a region 50 miles north of the capital, took off their shoes and used them to spell the word "leave". Showing the sole of your shoe has long been considered an insult in Arab culture.

On the night of Thursday, February 10, Mubarak made his third speech to the Egyptian public. All day, rumors had filled the square that he would resign that night. People from all over the capital left their homes and headed to Tahrir Square, in anticipation of a celebration. When he said instead that he would not step down until he had presided over a transition of power himself, almost every single man, woman and child who was in the square raised their shoes in indignation. Mubarak was not listening.

Many woke up Friday expecting the day to turn into a blood bath. Mubarak and Omar Suleiman, the long-time head of the Egyptian intelligence services who Mubarak had named as his vice president shortly after the demonstrations began, implied that they would not tolerate continued disruption in the country. Since the police had not yet appeared back on the streets, this left only the army to impose an end to the protests.

But the people had absolutely no intention of backing down.

Like so many others, I left my home Friday morning not knowing whether I'd live to return. I was equipped with nothing but my camera and a bandanna to protect myself from tear gas.

If any force was used against the protesters, they had nothing to protect themselves with. We had already seen so many die at the hands of police and thugs . Nevertheless, protesters left their homes armed only with their determination and the will to make a better country for themselves.

I arrived at around noon in front of the Presidential Palace, where throngs of protesters had gathered.

 For the most part, the day turned out to be uneventful. People socialized, stopping to chant every now and then. Numbers began to swell in the mid-afternoon when thousands more poured in from Tahrir Square, 20 kilometers away.

 Some waved flags and chanted, but mostly people waited in anticipation. Several times protesters chanted "The people and the army are together as one", as if urging the military to stay on the side of the people.

At 5:41 pm, the call for prayers rang out in the square in front of the presidential palace. Hundreds gathered to pray while others stood around, watching and waiting. We had heard news earlier that the president's office was going to make a statement. After Mubarak's speech from the night before, we weren't expecting much.

I called my family at home and asked that they call me and place the phone near the TV as soon as the statement started so that I could hear along with them. Sunset prayers ended and only minutes afterwards my phone rang. It was 6:03 pm. Just as my phone rang a roar exploded in the crowd. I could not hear my sister on the other end. No one near me knew exactly why the crowd was roaring.
It took a minute or two of struggling until my sister's words finally broke through: "The President has resigned."

I can't even remember shutting the phone. My best friend Arwa, who was among the throngs, ran up to me in tears saying, "He's gone, Nadia. He's gone!" We hugged and cried, then hugged complete strangers and cried with them. We roared and sang and chanted along with the thousands in front of the Presidential Palace, "The people…indeed…have toppled the regime."

The throngs almost immediately left the square in front of the palace and started marching towards Tahrir Square. Chants of "Here are the Egyptians…here, here, here," and "Egyptians, raise your heads and be proud," rang everywhere on the streets of Heliopolis, where the presidential palace lies. As I marched along with the crowd, I began to shoot video of the celebration.

Fireworks erupted from apartment building balconies, cars took to the streets and people honked their hearts out. Flags were everywhere. People hugged army officers as they passed; it was the most jubilant scene I have ever witnessed or taken part of in my life. And over and over, one chant was repeated: "Martyrs, you can now rest in peace."

As jubilant protesters marched, we all reiterated to each other that we have honored the blood of those who had died. We had done this for them and for the future generations of Egypt.

Tahrir Square was a beehive of activity. By the time I arrived, the exhaustion of three weeks of protests had begun to set in. I made a quick round of the overcrowded square. I only stopped once. I saw an elderly couple I had photographed three nights earlier in the square. That night they were holding hands waving the Egyptian flag in support of protesters. On Friday night, they were walking through Tahrir, holding hands, waving the flag, a huge smile on their face.

I went to them. "I saw you the other night. I was so proud of you. I wanted to come to you now and say congratulations," I told them. We all hugged and cried and congratulated each other. We took pictures together. The smiles on their faces were priceless.

I walked home from Tahrir Square with my friend Arwa waving what was probably the 13th flag she had bought in as many days. We greeted cars on the way and sang with people riding in them.
The second I arrived home, my legs gave way. For 18 days, I had marched and marched and they carried me through. But they now needed a rest.

I slipped into a deep sleep and got up around 6 o'clock on Saturday morning to pray the dawn prayers. As I tried to go back to sleep afterwards, I shed tears for the Egyptians who had died for their country.

I felt proud to have stood with them shoulder to shoulder. I felt proud to have stood my ground when things got rough in the following days of the revolution. I felt I had honored their deaths. I felt proud that my children finally had a chance to live a life of freedom. My greatest sense of pride came from how my fellow Egyptians handled themselves through those toughest of times, honorably, in style, with a great sense of humor. Egyptians had shown the world that we were a peaceful nation, even at times of revolution.

Today, and everyday henceforth, I am proud to be an Egyptian.

Nadia El-Awady is the president of the World Federation of Science Journalists. She has written for a variety of Egyptian and international media organizations. She has also managed training programs for Egyptian journalists for the International Center for Journalists.

SunisinuS
02-13-2011, 06:41 PM
This is the song that never ends....it just goes on and on my friends...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_successful_coups_d%27%C3%A9tat

Hope they raise a toast to Jefferson instead of Pol Pot.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110211/ap_on_an/ml_egypt_the_coup_analysis

Seshmeister
02-13-2011, 07:50 PM
Bolivia wins but funny that France is second with 8...

Nitro Express
02-13-2011, 07:54 PM
I love the party hats she's selling. Egypt got rid of Mubarak now we need to get rid of Dino (Democrat in name only) Barrack so we can throw a party.

Seshmeister
02-14-2011, 12:47 AM
Is there anyone here that maybe works with the mentally subnormal who could translate Palin from her native Retardian into English?



“And nobody yet has, nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and no, not, not real enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level and from DC in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt. And, in these areas that are so volatile right now, because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And, we do not have all that information yet.”

Can you imagine what goes on in that head before it's tidied up by her team of publicists and PR people...

Blaze
02-14-2011, 01:06 AM
And nobody yet has, nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and no, not, not real enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level and from DC in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt. And, in these areas that are so volatile right now, because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And, we do not have all that information yet.
I speak thome. give me a mooment

Blaze
02-14-2011, 01:11 AM
And nobody yet has,

nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know,

and surely they know more than the rest of us know

who it is

who will be taking the place of Mubarak

and no,
not, not real enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level
and from DC
in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt.

And,

in these areas that are so volatile right now,

because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings,

we know that now more than ever,

we need strength and sound mind

there in the White House.

We need to know

what it is that America stands for

so we know who it is that America will stand with.

And, we do not have all that information yet



Translation: I am an idiot, feed me. .

ELVIS
02-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I am an idiot.

Having a moment of clarity ??

Nitro Express
02-14-2011, 05:41 PM
Now the whole middle east is experiencing a domino effect.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110214/ts_yblog_thelookout/egypts-impact-unrest-sweeps-the-middle-east

fifth element
02-14-2011, 05:49 PM
Is there anyone here that maybe works with the mentally subnormal who could translate Palin from her native Retardian into English?



Can you imagine what goes on in that head before it's tidied up by her team of publicists and PR people...

that is one scary thought....

but I don't care to be kept up nights worrying about the likes of that....person.