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Kristy
03-05-2011, 01:07 AM
In the tiny shitty confines of my apartment space is limited if not appreciated. So I've been looking for a pair of small yet well at least, decent sounding bookshelf speakers new (so I can play anything but Zeppelin or Floyd through them) and the two choices that I like are these JBL series and the Infinity. Now I'm no audiophile but the Infinity's sound better but the JBL are cosmetically more attractive and slightly more low-end. So...what I'm asking is who makes a better speaker? My roommate says to go for the JBL's but they are $30 more and they do look better then the drab black Infinity's. Is there really a difference? Should anyone care? Is this just another narcissistic rant? Should I call my mother and for some unnecessary and unwarranted (Catholic) guilt? Wil i ever bear her the 9 grandchilden she always wanted? People are dying in Libya and all I can think about is wanting to hear Coltrane's 'Love Supreme' though a god damn pair of decent speakers. Should I not get high and post? Will I turn into another Ace?

Find out.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00KGelc2WxcbW/340x.jpg

FORD
03-05-2011, 01:29 AM
Apparently they're both made by Harmon Kardon, so the quality should be comparable. Of course the best way to test them is with your ears, so try them out at the store if you can.

ace diamond
03-05-2011, 01:36 AM
In the tiny shitty confines of my apartment space is limited if not appreciated. So I've been looking for a pair of small yet well at least, decent sounding bookshelf speakers new (so I can play anything but Zeppelin or Floyd through them) and the two choices that I like are these JBL series and the Infinity. Now I'm no audiophile but the Infinity's sound better but the JBL are cosmetically more attractive and slightly more low-end. So...what I'm asking is who makes a better speaker? My roommate says to go for the JBL's but they are $30 more and they do look better then the drab black Infinity's. Is there really a difference? Should anyone care? Is this just another narcissistic rant? Should I call my mother and for some unnecessary and unwarranted (Catholic) guilt? Wil i ever bear her the 9 grandchilden she always wanted? People are dying in Libya and all I can think about is wanting to hear Coltrane's 'Love Supreme' though a god damn pair of decent speakers. Should I not get high and post? Will I turn into another Ace?

Find out.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00KGelc2WxcbW/340x.jpg

oh, fuck me........
:lmao:

Kristy
03-05-2011, 01:42 AM
So what you're really saying is that they are both made in China? Actually, I did hear them in one of these yuppie upscale electronic stores. The Infinity's sounded slightly better but I'm hooked on the JBL's so knowing now they are manufactured by the same company I guess the build quality and warranty is about the same. The JBL's are their L 830's - they are way more incredible than they look which is what I'm after. Can't remember what the model number of what the Infinity's were but I'll hear them again tomorrow. Thanks.

http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/36/jbl-l830.3897124.jpg

Hardrock69
03-05-2011, 02:13 AM
Well, JBL could possibly be slightly more expensive just due to the brand name.

But the bottom line is, which ones sound better?

Get half a dozen of your favorite CDs....ones you have been listening to for YEARS and then go to the store and check out both pairs of speakers using music you are completely familiar with.

Nitro Express
03-05-2011, 02:14 AM
I have JBL's in custom hemp cabinets and cool tie dye speaker grills. They sound great!

http://hardtruckers.com/products.html

Hardrock69
03-05-2011, 02:55 AM
You fucking hippie! :biggrin:

Is there a built-in bong? :hee:

ashstralia
03-05-2011, 03:09 AM
what you should do kristy, is go and watch the clip of the kids singing iron maiden. it's way cool. and then just pick the speakers that you think are the coolest.

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 05:32 AM
How much are they retail ??

I'd go this route...

JBL L830 series 3-Way 6" Bookshelf Loud Speaker (http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-L830-series-3-Way-6-Bookshelf-Loud-Speaker-/150572101143?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item230ecbee17#ht_3727wt_907)

You are bidding on a pair FACTORY-REMANUFACTURED JBLŽ L830CH-Z CHERRY 3-Way 6" High-Performance bookshelf loudspeaker. They come direct from our factory, complete with the original accessories and the original factory warranty.

Steal the Show. Go Pro.™ With materials and technologies that extend their sonic performance far beyond the industry standard of 20kHz, Studio™ L Series speaker’s bring true studio sound to today's SACD™ sources. Music reproduction duplicates all the subtleties of the original performance in any genre and brings new meaning to "up close and personal" sports action. It's audio performance that's powerful, accurate and alive; and now you can have it with JBL premium L Series speakers.

The L830CH-Z bookshelf speaker is video shielded and features a PolyPlas™ woofer and a pure-titanium tweeter to deliver accurate performance with dramatically reduced distortion for incredibly realistic sound. The 6" woofer deliver excellent bass impact and excitement and the ultrahigh-frequency driver extends response out to 40kHz. Perfect for SACD or DVD-Audio recordings. The tweeter is mounted in our proprietary Elliptical Oblate Spheroidal (EOS™) waveguide for improved high-frequency dispersion anywhere in the listening room.

Key features:

Dual gold-plated binding posts for bi-wire or bi-amplification
Magnetic shielding eliminates video discoloration when placed close to a TV
Optimized cabinet bracing reduces unwanted resonances
Tuned bass port FreeFlow™, increases bass output for enhanced visceral effects
Straight-Line Signal Path™ (SSP™) precision dividing network, bi-wire option offers a "room friendly" design that delivers superior frequency response over a wider listening area, substantially enlarging the "sweet spot" in any system


:elvis:

Kristy
03-05-2011, 10:23 AM
Get half a dozen of your favorite CDs....ones you have been listening to for YEARS and then go to the store and check out both pairs of speakers using music you are completely familiar with.

Exactly what I'm going to do. I'm pretty much sold n the JBL's For such a little speaker (and I'm running them with a sub) the sound is just incredible.

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 10:35 AM
Click on my link slut...

chefcraig
03-05-2011, 10:38 AM
Click on my link slut...

Does that line ever work in bars? http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-confused-smileys-718.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/skype-emoticons.html)

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 10:56 AM
I never tried it...

I only played music in bars. I never hit on the nasty whores that were there...

chefcraig
03-05-2011, 10:59 AM
I never tried it...

I only played music in bars. I never hit on the nasty whores that were there...

I wish I'd followed that line of thinking. :duh:

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 11:03 AM
:biggrin:

kwame k
03-05-2011, 11:13 AM
I bought JBL studio monitors years ago and have been impressed with the sound clarity, bass definition, and durability.

Not really sure about bookshelf speakers but I've never had a problem with mine.........

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 11:25 AM
Bookshelf speakers cost more than mid priced studio monitors...

That's why I posted the refurbished ebay link...

I'd never pay retail for that stuff...


:elvis:

kwame k
03-05-2011, 11:34 AM
Bookshelf speakers cost more than mid priced studio monitors...

That's why I posted the refurbished ebay link...

I'd never pay retail for that stuff...


:elvis:

Yeah, I hear ya........although when it comes to speakers, especially studio monitors, I usually go new because you never know how bad used stuff has been abused. Refurbished stuff usually comes with a warranty but still.....certain things I like to buy new for some reason.

I do like the wood grain look of the JBL.......for a bookshelf speaker.

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 11:45 AM
That's refurbished with a full warranty...

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 11:46 AM
Oh, I didn't read it all...

Refurbished is fine...

kwame k
03-05-2011, 11:51 AM
I've bought stuff from Guitar Center online that was refurbished and have had zero problems. Like you said........full warranty, too!

Kristy
03-05-2011, 12:54 PM
Close to $500 new, asshat. I'd never buy refurbished anyway.

chefcraig
03-05-2011, 01:03 PM
I'd never buy refurbished anyway.

Be very careful if you find a deal that seems a little off or too good to be true. There is a situation taking place nationwide regarding "refurbished" electronics, which are sold in places like Big Lots, yet are not outwardly identified as such. As always, buyer beware.

ELVIS
03-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Close to $500 new, asshat. I'd never buy refurbished anyway.

Throw your money away on that chinese crap then...

Hardrock69
03-05-2011, 03:37 PM
I have a pair of Tannoy PBM-8s that rule. I have 'refurbished' them out of necessity.

Back in 2000, Pantera released "Reinventing The Steel". I got the cd home, turned up the stereo.
LOUD AS FUCK!

Went into the kitchen, and after a few moments began smelling some kind of burnt electronics smell.

Went back into the living room to find it full of smoke, with the Tannoys blowing smoke rings out of the port on the back. :umm:

One tweeter no longer worked, and the plastic speaker connection plate at the back was melted on both of them. :biggrin:

A year later I got around to ordering some replacement tweeters. Then about 5 years ago, I got some replacement crossovers (the overheated crossovers were what caused the melted plastic). When doing some testing at home, I discovered the bad tweeter was not bad, it was the crossover that was fried.
I had already gotten the replacement tweeters, so I said WTF and put them in anyway, being brand new.

Then last year, I took one of my speaker grills off, only to discover the foam surround on the front of my 8" woofers was rotting. I took the other speaker grill off to discover the same thing.

So I had new surrounds put on, and the world is right again.

Not only do I use these for my recording projects, but as they are my main speakers for my PC, I use them for gaming as well.

Bought them used in 1997 from a friend for $450. Best $450 I ever spent!

I have a pair of JBL floor monitors that I have not used in 15 years. They sound great.
JBL did not get their reputation by putting out crummy products, that is certain.

Nitro Express
03-05-2011, 08:51 PM
You fucking hippie! :biggrin:

Is there a built-in bong? :hee:

No but you can hide your stash inside the speaker cabs. :biggrin: Just use a drill to loosen the speaker mounts and toss the stash in and tighten the speakers back up.

Nitro Express
03-05-2011, 09:04 PM
I either use a little iPOD dock or I shake the house to smithereens with a 500 watt stereo with big hippie speakers. I haven't used so called book shelf speakers for years.

vh rides again
03-05-2011, 09:19 PM
To my ears and pocketbook JBL's are the best buy and have a great warranty.

I could have purchased JBL's,klipsch or Infinitys for my home theatre and the clear choice was JBl. stay away from JBL subs, they are junk.

If you go to high end audio stores and talk to someone knowledgable on speaker components they will tell you JBL's crossovers are higher quality than infinity even though harman kardon manufactures both.
Klipsch speakers sound tinny to me. infinity speakers have a higher quality finish.

clarathecarrot
03-06-2011, 12:11 AM
Old beat up speakers that don't play well, will keep you out of jail.. and the thiefs on the hill out of your back yard.
So...we will still love ya come morning.

Nitro Express
03-06-2011, 12:17 AM
To my ears and pocketbook JBL's are the best buy and have a great warranty.

I could have purchased JBL's,klipsch or Infinitys for my home theatre and the clear choice was JBl. stay away from JBL subs, they are junk.

If you go to high end audio stores and talk to someone knowledgable on speaker components they will tell you JBL's crossovers are higher quality than infinity even though harman kardon manufactures both.
Klipsch speakers sound tinny to me. infinity speakers have a higher quality finish.

JBL is pretty much the benchmark for professional sound systems. From everything to concerts to sophisticated concert halls chances are high the speakers are JBL.

Nitro Express
03-06-2011, 12:22 AM
I've heard good things about Sony speakers.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SS-B1000-8-Inch-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B000OG88KY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1299388785&sr=8-2

Nitro Express
03-06-2011, 12:28 AM
Someone should come out with Kosher Cables. Every cable is manufactured under rabbinical supervision and blessed before it goes out to the final customer.:biggrin:

ELVIS
03-06-2011, 09:24 AM
Anyway slut...

Amazon has them for $399 but only 12 whores left on the refurbished...


:elvis:

Dan
03-06-2011, 06:18 PM
How Very Rude.:D

FORD
03-06-2011, 06:56 PM
Someone should come out with Kosher Cables. Every cable is manufactured under rabbinical supervision and blessed before it goes out to the final customer.:biggrin:

I don't know how many current rabbis would be the best judges of sound to qualify for this job description though. Might have to make rabbis out of some Jews who would be up to the job. Ted Templeman & Rick Rubin are some names that come to mind. Maybe David Lee Roth himself would consider a part time rabbi gig in between Van Halen projects, to help the cause? And Geddy Lee could take the Canadian division.

Rabbi Neil Diamond might be kinda cool too.

ELVIS
03-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Two whores left !!

chefcraig
03-06-2011, 08:14 PM
I don't know how many current rabbis would be the best judges of sound to qualify for this job description though. Might have to make rabbis out of some Jews who would be up to the job.

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Kristy
03-07-2011, 10:33 PM
Anyhoo, I went with the JBL's. They sound incredible for the little Yamaha amp I'm running through. So far Zep AND Floyd free and intend on keeping them that way.

ELVIS
03-07-2011, 10:42 PM
What if a nice butchy single female lookin' to mingle comes over and wants to get the Led out ??

Kristy
03-07-2011, 10:53 PM
Is that your internet porn fantasy, asshole?

hambon4lif
03-07-2011, 11:01 PM
What if a nice butchy single female lookin' to mingle comes over and wants to get the Led out ??She'd probably just say "Go the fuck away, Elvis!" and slam the door. :biggrin:

lesfunk
03-07-2011, 11:02 PM
What a shit hole this place is

Kristy
03-07-2011, 11:03 PM
Certainly turning out that way.

ELVIS
03-07-2011, 11:24 PM
You know you love me...:biggrin:

Nitro Express
03-08-2011, 01:26 AM
Glad to hear you are happy with the JBL speakers Kristy. If they sound good new out of the box they will get even better sounding as they start to break in.