Coverdale/Whitesnake - Forevermore

[binnie]

Anyone heard it?

What do you think?

Picked up the Classic Rock edition with a magazine, poster and badge - like the Slash record and Motorhead record, it makes the album release more of an 'event.'

[PETE'S BROTHER]

i caught part of it on the radio ridin' home yesterday, definate whitesnake sound. didn't get a chance to listen at home, yet.

[indeedido]

Just heard Love Will Set You Free, definite Whitesnake sound. Pretty cool riff

[SunisinuS]

Ditto just looked em up....decent songs. Only had time to hear a sample of them.


But their Wiki page just got updated:

"On March 25th 2011 it was announced by Amazon.co.uk, that pre-order sales for Whitesnake's album had outstripped Britney Spears' new Femme Fatale album by 35%."

A glimmer of hope back into the music world?

[binnie]

Ditto just looked em up....decent songs. Only had time to hear a sample of them.


But their Wiki page just got updated:

"On March 25th 2011 it was announced by Amazon.co.uk, that pre-order sales for Whitesnake's album had outstripped Britney Spears' new Femme Fatale album by 35%."

A glimmer of hope back into the music world?

It certainly made me smile - however, it probably has more to do with the fact that most people who buy BS records wouldn't pre-order them: to them, music is a casual thing, you know?

[binnie]

This record is certainly well worth everyone's time.

[fifth element]

Ditto just looked em up....decent songs. Only had time to hear a sample of them.


But their Wiki page just got updated:

"On March 25th 2011 it was announced by Amazon.co.uk, that pre-order sales for Whitesnake's album had outstripped Britney Spears' new Femme Fatale album by 35%."

A glimmer of hope back into the music world?

NICE!!!!

We can alwys hope...

[sonrisa salvaje]

I bought this cd today but haven't listened to it yet. I got the regular edition because the deluxe had 3 alternate takes of already included songs on the normal one. The deluxe also included a making of the record dvd plus a video for one of the new tunes. Whitesnake's last record was pretty good. I have been looking forward to this.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I saw it at Walmart today. Thought about picking it up, but didn't yet. Maybe next time I'm out.

[Dan]

Sweet As.:D

[78/84 guy]

I'll grab it. The last one was good. I just picked up the dvd they put out a few years ago. It's fun to watch. New music still sucks ass for the most part. Top 40 heavy metal !! I do like Shinedown & Black Stone Cherry. Good heavy songwriters.

[Dan]

Saw Whitesnake In 2009 In Chicago With Juice and NateDog,Nothing But Sweet As From The band.:D

[Dan]

Whitesnake - Love Will Set You Free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwd30wXc-0

[PETE'S BROTHER]

his face looks tighter than joan rivers'

[Dan]

his face looks tighter than joan rivers'

Yes,That's Very True.:hitch:

[GreenBayLA]

Good song and looks like a decent lineup.

[Mr Walker]

Best Whitesnake LP since 'Slide it In'... and IMO better than the 1987 disc (because I never liked 'Bad Boys' and 'Children of the Night').
Like Aldrich has stated in the press... it's the perfect blend of the 1987 disc, 'Come An Get It' and what they started on 'Good to be Bad'.
Little bit of filler here and there and Coverdale's voice is definitely showing it's age in some spots, but overall I think this disc defines what Coverdale has been trying to do with Whitesnake for the past 20 years... after he gave up on the initial direction of the band that he created in the late 70s.
If things don't work out with DLR and VH, he needs to open his wallet to Coverdale's current WS incarnation... particularly Aldrich and Tichy.
I've read in some markets that this disc is doing better than the new brittney Spears disc... no small feat for a band that was pretty much written off back in the 90s.
Stand out track for me is 'Whipping Boy Blues' and check out the very DLR-ish 'My Evil Ways'.

[sadaist]

I wore the hell out of my original 1987 Whitesnake cassette tape. I even liked 'Here I Go Again'. But motherfuck! I haven't heard the ORIGINAL version since. I don't know how many different versions there are now, but even the ones listed as 'original' aren't truly from the first copies of the album.

I saw them open for Motley Crue and WS only played 5 songs. That was kinda a let down.

But really Coverdale lost all my respect when he fired the band that recorded the big breakthrough album and replaced them with All-stars. Then had the audacity to re-record said tunes with all-stars. And to me that ruined the songs....not made them better.

Coverdale & Lenny Wolf can both take turns sucking Robert Plants wrinkly old cock.



*Plus Whitesnake pisses me off cause I got busted at Target for shoplifting the 'Come An' Get It' cassette & a Bic lighter.

[hambon4lif]

The new single is a decent rock song. I was starting to think that nobody knew how to write one of those anymore.
I can't bring myself to watch the video because it scares me (is that his bellybutton underneath his chin? Yikes! I knew that having Tawny Kitaen sit on your face would have some damaging side effects, but DAMN!!) but I dig the tune.

Badass guitarist! Killer solo! If the rest of the disc is like this, I'll pick it up.

[ELVIS]

Cheese rock with a creepy old man at the helm...

[hambon4lif]

Cheese rock with a creepy old man at the helm...I'm not surprised. You don't like anything unless it has a Swedish effeminate hack in it.

moron.

[Mr Walker]

Badass guitarist! Killer solo! If the rest of the disc is like this, I'll pick it up.

It's a typical lead off single... if you pick up the disc you'll find some better tracks.

[ELVIS]

It's not 1987...

The lead off single should be one of the better tracks...

[Mr Walker]

It's not 1987...

The lead off single should be one of the better tracks...

As with all decent hard rock albums, the best songs are not necessarily single material.

[ELVIS]

I'll bet I can guess the subject matter for the other songs...

[hambon4lif]

It's a typical lead off single... if you pick up the disc you'll find some better tracks.The whole concept of 'lead off singles' doesn't make any sense to me, not since the death of radio. They're aiming at something that doesn't really exist anymore.

Nowadays, if you want to reach out to your fanbase and the rock community, it would make more sense to go balls out and throw your heavier shit out there.

The suits at the record companies are asleep at the wheel and they'll fuck this whole thing up.

[Mr Walker]

I'll bet I can guess the subject matter for the other songs...

What's wrong with that?
If I buy a bottle of Diet Coke I don't want it to taste like V8.

[sonrisa salvaje]

I'm not digging this cd too much yet. How many songs can you write about faded love, love that needs another chance, and love in general? The same theme accross the board gets on my nerves a bit. The musicianship is good but to me the song writing is mediocre. Maybe a few more listens will open some doors that i can't realize yet.

[ELVIS]

How many songs can you write about faded love, love that needs another chance, and love in general?

Or, how many times can Coverdale write the same crappy song...

Same goes for Yngwie, BTW...

[binnie]

I'm not digging this cd too much yet. How many songs can you write about faded love, love that needs another chance, and love in general? The same theme accross the board gets on my nerves a bit. The musicianship is good but to me the song writing is mediocre. Maybe a few more listens will open some doors that i can't realize yet.

Do we really expect Heavy Metal/Hard Rock bands to write inspiring/original lyrics? (CVH were actually remarkable for that point.)

I know what you mean, but what the hell else is Cov going to write about? I'm really not all that interested in his thoughts on Proust.
Hell, AC/DC have made a career out of a handful of lyrical themes.

[binnie]

Cheese rock with a creepy old man at the helm...

Didn't realize you'd been given an advance listen to the new Van Halen record.

[sadaist]

Do we really expect Heavy Metal/Hard Rock bands to write inspiring/original lyrics? (CVH were actually remarkable for that point.)
.


Which is exactly why James Hetfield is so fun to listen to. Not so much in the last decade. But the guy is a terrific lyric writer.

[sadaist]

How many songs can you write about faded love, love that needs another chance, and love in general?



All of them -




Sincerely,

Steve Perry

[hambon4lif]

Maybe a few more listens will open some doors that i can't realize yet.The guitarist is the one that made the song work IMO. (who is that dude anyway?)

You can tell he's got tricks and flash, but he holds back and delivers a strong melodic solo that fits into the songs structure.
We'll hear more from him regardless if he stays with Coverdale or not.

[ELVIS]

Doug Aldrich



He's been around...


:elvis:

[Mr Walker]

Doug Aldrich

He's been around...


:elvis:

I can't see the video you posted, but Aldrich has been playing in bands since the 80's.

[binnie]

I'm a non guitar player, but would I be correct in assuming that DOug Aldrich is a superior player to Reb Beach?

[Mr Walker]

I'm a non guitar player, but would I be correct in assuming that DOug Aldrich is a superior player to Reb Beach?

I don't know... I'm not a guitar player either and Aldrich seems to get all the attention in Whitesnake, but according to some players that I know... Beach is no slouch despite the Winger stigma that may follow him.

[Jagermeister]

i don't know... I'm not a guitar player either and aldrich seems to get all the attention in whitesnake, but according to some players that i know... Beach is no slouch despite the winger stigma that may follow him.

hey!!!

[chefcraig]

If you are interested, you can listen to damned near the entire album HERE (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=whitesnake+forevermore+album&aq=2)at Youtube.

[Jagermeister]

I have not de railed a perfectly good thread in a while so I may be a little rusty. But here goes.

:biggrin:

[Jagermeister]

P.S. I think I'll pick it up this weekend and give it a listen.


P.S.S. You know it's bad when I can type faster than the board can list what I am typing. :pullinghair:

[sonrisa salvaje]

Do we really expect Heavy Metal/Hard Rock bands to write inspiring/original lyrics? (CVH were actually remarkable for that point.)

I know what you mean, but what the hell else is Cov going to write about? I'm really not all that interested in his thoughts on Proust.
Hell, AC/DC have made a career out of a handful of lyrical themes.

I know exactly what you mean and the point is taken. I don't know what i expected the lyrical themes to be other than what was delivered. Coverdale never has been a god and country kind of lyricist. I don't remember the last record being this one sided relative to theme. I guess the good news for Whitesnake is that i am one of those fans that will keep buying their stuff always expecting that the next record will be the best one yet. Also, Reb Beach did a good job while in Dokken and i really like his playing on this record.

[binnie]

Here's my review:

Whitesnake - Forevermore

A solid effort from DC and co. which is bound to make you smile. Building on the good work laid down by this line-up on 'Good To Be Bad', this time round they have gelled together more closely and the whole record feels more like the product of a band. Do I need to tell you what this sounds like? Big choruses, flashy solos and songs about broken and battered love all served up with a dollop of cheese and a whole lot of fun. As sophisticated as a chainsaw, and about as subtle.

Opener 'Steal Your Heart Away' has the bluesy, funky vibe of early Whitesnake but its played through the sheen of the '1987' era. 'Love Will Set You Free' has a rattlesnake of a riff and 'Tell Me How' is an anthem in the making if they add it to the setlist. DC's voice is not what it once was, but it still suits the music - a little raspier than 20 years ago, and a little lower, he nonetheless brings a (not so) quiet cool to proceedings and is the perfect foil for the sizzling solos of Doug Aldrich, who is a bluesman on hyperdrive. All of this is fine and dandy, but hardly essential. These songs - as good as they are - hardly add anything to the band's legacy. But some of those on the record's second half certainly do: 'Dogs In the Street' (Aldrich's centrpiece) is a marvellous rocker, and 'Whipping Boy Blues' is a bombastic take on blues rock. Perhaps most impressive, however, is the title track - a delicate ballad which culminates in a Zeppelin-esque stomp, could it be argued that this is the most beautiful song DC has ever recorded?

There is certainly filler on this album (what Whitesnake record doesn't have some?) 'Easier Said Than Done' is a formulaic ballad, and 'One of These Days' delves dangerously close to Chris Rea territory (ARRRGH!) But they don't taint the impact of the whole. Thanks largely to the rhythm section of Brian Tinchy and Michael Devin, 'Forevermore' grooves like a motherfucker. It is no 'Lovehunter' or 'Ready & Willing' but it is a damn fine rock 'n' roll record which will brighten up your summer no end.

[ELVIS]

I doubt that...

[binnie]

Which part?

[Dan]

I Love Whitesake.

Good For You.:biggrin:

[binnie]

Hahahaha!

Elvis loves his own whitesnake, no one else will touch it. :D

[Anonymous]

Hahahaha!

Elvis loves his own whitesnake, no one else will touch it. :D

As a Christian (& a nurse), though, he tends to be a little touchy when it comes to other people's snakes.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Mr. Vengeance]

Shit....Slide it In. There's a smoking album I haven't listened to in a years. I'm going to throw it on the old turntable today!

[chefcraig]

I love Whitesake.


Good For You.:biggrin:

I didn't know the Japanese even made white sake, but they certainly do. Unfortunately, the shit is $175 a bottle, so I doubt I'll be tasting any soon. :confused13:

TY KU White Sake (http://uncrate.com/stuff/ty-ku-white-sake/)

[sonrisa salvaje]

I gotta say after a few more listens, the second half of the cd is where it's at. I think Evil Ways is my favorite followed by the title track, Fair The Well, and Dogs in the Street. Evil Ways, in particular, is smokin'. It represents a little more of what i was hoping to get throughout the disc. But what is there is worth getting.

[Mr Walker]

LOL at the fact that the new Amon Amarth disc entitled 'Surtur Rising' charted high on the US charts (#34) than the new Whitesnake disc (#49).
Actually the Amon Amarth disc is pretty good if you dig that kind of stuff.

[binnie]

Amon Amarth are pretty damn good - kind of like Manowar cross-bred with a pitbull.

[yomaster]

anybody see it? I found the show somewhat interesting. Hard for me to believe he is turning 60 this year. The hosts asked Coverdale why the 1987 band did not stay together (translation...why did you fire John Sykes..the guy that made you a superstar with this album). Coverdale replied saying they could not get along. That they were fighting all the time and he did not want that. Man if I was in the audience I would have yelled "dude, you fucked Sykes in the ass" .. He could have given more info.. you know there is more to the story. I think we all know that David was jealous of John Sykes great showmanship on stage and amazing talent. Coverdale wanted to be the only big star on stage. I just wish Coverdale had the balls to spell it out.

[ELVIS]

Who cares, it's 25 years ago...

[FORD]

David Covercheeseball - most over-rated singer of all time. And worst shit peddler of the hair band era.

Yes, worse than Poison, Slaughter, Europe, or any of those other whiny transvestites.

Why? Because he used to be in an actual ROCK band, and should have known better.

[Anonymous]

Well, Ford, say what you will about Coverdale & you may be right in many aspects. Dude wrote some pretty cheesy "songs", mutilated 'Here I Go Again', he's a sellout, etc.

But overrated as a singer? That doesn't make any sense. If there's something that guy can do is sing!

Cheers! :bottle:

[Hardrock69]

On a related note, Randy Hansen was hired by Paul Rodgers to play guitar in his band for an American tour. Paul fired him mid-way through the tour, because too many Randy Hansen fans were showing up doing stuff like holding up signs saying "Randy Hansen Rules!" and stuff like that.

I call it the "I AM THE STAR OF THE SHOW!" syndrome. First got a whiff of that syndrome watching an interview with Little Richard about his experiences with Jimi Hendrix in his band, lol.

[FORD]

I guess after spending a few years in Freddie Mercury's shadow, Paul doesn't want to take a back seat to anyone on stage again.

Probably just as well though. Randy Hansen is best known for playing like Hendrix. That probably isn't the best mix with Bad Company & Free tunes anyway. Still pretty lame to fire the guy just because your ego got bruised though. Geez... it wasn't that long ago that Rodgers was happy just playing the local casino circuit up here in Washington state. Guess the Queen mutation and Bad Co revival made it hard for him to give up the spotlight?

[chefcraig]

I call it the "I AM THE STAR OF THE SHOW!" syndrome. First got a whiff of that syndrome watching an interview with Little Richard about his experiences with Jimi Hendrix in his band, lol.


I guess after spending a few years in Freddie Mercury's shadow, Paul doesn't want to take a back seat to anyone on stage again...Geez... it wasn't that long ago that Rodgers was happy just playing the local casino circuit up here in Washington state. Guess the Queen mutation and Bad Co revival made it hard for him to give up the spotlight?

Rodgers has always had one of the best voices in hard rock, but unfortunately, he's never had one of the best brains. This is a guy that thought forming a band (The Law) with Kenny Jones was a good idea. Next thing you know, he's playing Hendrix covers with Neal Schon at car shows. Then he does a blues album with a bunch of hotshot guitarists and winds up getting a Grammy nomination. How does he follow that? Yup, he re-forms Bad Company, and makes one of the best concert DVDs ever (Merchants of Cool). Then it's back to Hendrix covers and finally, Queen.

I love the guy, but at times some of his career moves leave you scratching your head.

[ELVIS]

Maybe he's not just in it for the money...

[Terry]

anybody see it? I found the show somewhat interesting. Hard for me to believe he is turning 60 this year. The hosts asked Coverdale why the 1987 band did not stay together (translation...why did you fire John Sykes..the guy that made you a superstar with this album). Coverdale replied saying they could not get along. That they were fighting all the time and he did not want that. Man if I was in the audience I would have yelled "dude, you fucked Sykes in the ass" .. He could have given more info.. you know there is more to the story. I think we all know that David was jealous of John Sykes great showmanship on stage and amazing talent. Coverdale wanted to be the only big star on stage. I just wish Coverdale had the balls to spell it out.

I dunno...I always thought it was a bit of shame that he had Dunbar AND Sykes on the 1987 album and those guys turned in such blazing performances that went to service what were, in the end, a bunch of real meatheaded songs. Then he sacks the lot of them and gets Campbell, Vandenburg, Aldridge and Sarzo (and later Steve Vai) to apply their abilities to playing that same stuff live and churning out the even lamer follow-up Slip Of The Tongue...then it's on to the Coverdale/Page album which finally sees Page bearing down and really trying for the first time in 15 years, and Page ends up turning in solid work on ANOTHER collection of meatheaded tunes...

Coverdale can sing, but if post DP he's ever come up with a lyric that wasn't cliche-ridden and deeper than a kiddie wading pool, I have yet to hear it.

So much vocal ability, has played with some of the best musicians rock has offered and yet so little to actually express.

[Diamondjimi]

I dunno...I always thought it was a bit of shame that he had Dunbar AND Sykes on the 1987 album and those guys turned in such blazing performances that went to service what were, in the end, a bunch of real meatheaded songs. Then he sacks the lot of them and gets Campbell, Vandenburg, Aldridge and Sarzo (and later Steve Vai) to apply their abilities to playing that same stuff live and churning out the even lamer follow-up Slip Of The Tongue...then it's on to the Coverdale/Page album which finally sees Page bearing down and really trying for the first time in 15 years, and Page ends up turning in solid work on ANOTHER collection of meatheaded tunes...

Coverdale can sing, but if post DP he's ever come up with a lyric that wasn't cliche-ridden and deeper than a kiddie wading pool, I have yet to hear it.

So much vocal ability, has played with some of the best musicians rock has offered and yet so little to actually express.

Well said, Terry.
Coverdale is a walking talking cliche'. The last good album he did was "Slide it in". The 1987 albums' production was atrocious. It's a reverb drenched tampon...

[Mr. Vengeance]

I picked it up on Friday. So far I'm enjoying it. Good followup to the last album, which was a nice comeback. I enjoy the Eagles-esque "One of These Days" quite a bit.

[jero]

Massive sound! Doug is on fire once again!

[Mr. Vengeance]

Although Coverdale's voice is starting to show it's age times.....

[jero]

But still a great voice

[hambon4lif]

Massive sound! Doug is on fire once again!Agreed, and we should enjoy it while it lasts.
Once Aldrich steals the spotlight from Coverdale, he's going to find himself out of a gig.

History has a funny way of repeating itself.

[Mr Badguy]

I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting much.

But I have to say THIS ROCKS.

For fucks sakes, people, it might not be the 80's anymore but we're getting a second golden age here.

Killer new albums from Ki$$, Ratt, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden, Motorhead amongst others I can mention.

Fuck all the bitching around here, the Metal is more alive than it has been for a good 15 years and most of the feeedback is negative.

I'm loving it.

[binnie]

I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting much.

But I have to say THIS ROCKS.

For fucks sakes, people, it might not be the 80's anymore but we're getting a second golden age here.

Killer new albums from Ki$$, Ratt, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden, Motorhead amongst others I can mention.

Fuck all the bitching around here, the Metal is more alive than it has been for a good 15 years and most of the feeedback is negative.

I'm loving it.

I think that the Ki$$ album is a lot of fun, but I wouldn't say it was great (makes me smile though.) The others, as you say, are still producing great, great music.

And that's just the old guys: if you like the heavier end of metal, then the genre has rarely been healtheir - there is some phenomenal stuff out there at the moment, it might not be life affirming, party hard rock/metal, but its biblically powerful nonetheless.

[yomaster]

I agree. A lot of his stuff is very cheesy. But I'm more than willing to look past his sometimes lame lyrics because of his voice and the music. He really needed better partnerships, it was nothing but downhill after Sykes left.

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Terry wrote:

I dunno...I always thought it was a bit of shame that he had Dunbar AND Sykes on the 1987 album and those guys turned in such blazing performances that went to service what were, in the end, a bunch of real meatheaded songs. Then he sacks the lot of them and gets Campbell, Vandenburg, Aldridge and Sarzo (and later Steve Vai) to apply their abilities to playing that same stuff live and churning out the even lamer follow-up Slip Of The Tongue...then it's on to the Coverdale/Page album which finally sees Page bearing down and really trying for the first time in 15 years, and Page ends up turning in solid work on ANOTHER collection of meatheaded tunes...

Coverdale can sing, but if post DP he's ever come up with a lyric that wasn't cliche-ridden and deeper than a kiddie wading pool, I have yet to hear it.

So much vocal ability, has played with some of the best musicians rock has offered and yet so little to actually express.

[yomaster]

TO Elvis: It still bothers me about Sykes firing. Perhaps I'm a little nuts for still being pissed about it. But I guess we are all a little nuts at times about all the years of VH with no Roth and Roll.

[yomaster]

I'm not that familiar with the bad company catalog or paul's solo projects. But from the numerous hits I am familiar with I always thought he had a nice voice but the material never really really moved me. It was always good but never "wow I gotta go out and buy that record right fucking now" But I can't tell people what to like and not like. Lot's of people love the shit out of bad company.

[yomaster]

I wore the hell out of my original 1987 Whitesnake cassette tape. I even liked 'Here I Go Again'. But motherfuck! I haven't heard the ORIGINAL version since. I don't know how many different versions there are now, but even the ones listed as 'original' aren't truly from the first copies of the album.

I saw them open for Motley Crue and WS only played 5 songs. That was kinda a let down.

But really Coverdale lost all my respect when he fired the band that recorded the big breakthrough album and replaced them with All-stars. Then had the audacity to re-record said tunes with all-stars. And to me that ruined the songs....not made them better.

Coverdale & Lenny Wolf can both take turns sucking Robert Plants wrinkly old cock.

*Plus Whitesnake pisses me off cause I got busted at Target for shoplifting the 'Come An' Get It' cassette & a Bic lighter.

Sykes guitar parts were not re-recorded. I can't speak for the rest of the musicians.

BTW- your comment about old cock was pretty good. lol

[yomaster]

I thought the last album was pretty so so.. I listened to it a couple times and gave it away to a friend. But I will check out the new one ASAP. Glad to hear so many of you like it.

[lesfunk]

I believe that DC's voice changed slightly for the worse since his rhinoplasty. I think DC's cheese factor comes from his blues influence. He writes and sings about blues subject matter but never totally captured the essence of the style with success; Unlike Clapton and Paul Rodgers who managed more authenticity (albeit still a bit British) successfully.
I still prefer the older Whitesnake (Slide it in and earlier). I always thought of Whitesnake as a Bad Company type band with bigger, hairier testicles.
When he went Metal he kind of lost me.
The songs were still the same but with big silly '80's American production. I prefer the dry British sound.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting much.

But I have to say THIS ROCKS.

For fucks sakes, people, it might not be the 80's anymore but we're getting a second golden age here.

Killer new albums from Ki$$, Ratt, Whitesnake, Iron Maiden, Motorhead amongst others I can mention.

Fuck all the bitching around here, the Metal is more alive than it has been for a good 15 years and most of the feeedback is negative.

I'm loving it.

RATT's latest album was among my favorites of the year. Motorhead is Motorhead. KISS gave us some straight ahead rock and no ballads.

I'm always hesitant when getting a new Whitesnake because in the early 90's DC really went cheese-ballad crazy on us, and didn't return for a while.

[Mr Badguy]

But isn't it great that these bands who whimpered out are coming to the end of their careers with good music?

They might not all be classics but albums like "1987" only come along once a lifetime.

[Seshmeister]

Whitesnake - Love Will Set You Free
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwd30wXc-0

Not the most original song in the world.

Good to see Tawny Kitaen can still work a pole after all these years.

That was her right? :)

[jero]

I don't think so. This is Tawny not so long ago

[Seshmeister]

Way to signpost a joke jero... :)

[jero]

:biggrin:

[binnie]

But isn't it great that these bands who whimpered out are coming to the end of their careers with good music?

They might not all be classics but albums like "1987" only come along once a lifetime.

Don't you think that some of Whitesnake's earlier records were superior to '1987'?

[chefcraig]

Don't you think that some of Whitesnake's earlier records were superior to '1987'?

It totally depends upon your point of reference. There are people out there in the ether that honestly believe that Death Magnetic is the best Metallica album ever made, mainly because they have never heard anything the band released before 1991 (The Black Album), let alone when they were good (anytime before 1987). I am obviously not saying that is the case with Mr Badguy, but come on...how many posts have you read by self-professed "experts" here and elsewhere that display utter ignorance on a subject merely because it occurred beyond their frame of experience? Mix in a little bit of myopic arrogance, and all of a sudden you have nitwits that inhabit this very site who believe they are the only people on the planet that have ever heard, let alone enjoyed (or even understood) the stylings of John Coltrane or Miles Davis.

Music in and of itself is subjective enough without adding the perspectives of the uninformed into the chaos of it's enjoyment. :)

[binnie]

It totally depends upon your point of reference. There are people out there in the ether that honestly believe that Death Magnetic is the best Metallica album ever made, mainly because they have never heard anything the band released before 1991 (The Black Album), let alone when they were good (anytime before 1987). I am obviously not saying that is the case with Mr Badguy, but come on...how many posts have you read by self-professed "experts" here and elsewhere that display utter ignorance on a subject merely because it occurred beyond their frame of experience? Mix in a little bit of myopic arrogance, and all of a sudden you have nitwits that inhabit this very site who believe they are the only people on the planet that have ever heard, let alone enjoyed (or even understood) the stylings of John Coltrane or Miles Davis.

Music in and of itself is subjective enough without adding the perspectives of the uninformed into the chaos of it's enjoyment. :)

Agreed, totally. The strength of opinions based on this site - often with very little point of reference - can be staggering. I have over 1500 albums, have been listening to hard rock/metal for 20 years now, and I would quite happily raise my hand and say that there are plenty of people here who know far, far more about it than myself (yourself, Terry, FORD, Mr Badguy and Bueno Bob spring to mind immediately.)

In the case of Whitesnake, I actually think that records like 'Ready & Willing' and 'Come and Get It' are superior to '1987' (I might even throw 'Lovehunter' in the mix) - not as polished of flamboyant certainly, but they contain more groove, feel and stronger songs to these ears. Mr Badguy was around 'back in the day' and I'm interested in his perspective.

On a side note, I actually think that 'Death Magnetic' is a bitchin' record. Not a patch on 'Kill 'em All' to 'Black', obviously, but few middle aged bands ever match their glory days. As good as 'Forevermore' is, for example, it falls short of 1980s Whitesnake. Timing is everything in music.

[sonrisa salvaje]

let alone enjoyed (or even understood) the stylings of John Coltrane or Miles Davis.



John Coltrane is cool. I love it when him and Boss Hog chase the Duke boys around.

[Mr Badguy]

I'm not saying "1987" was Whitesnake's best record.

However, it was one of those situtions where the fruit lined up and they hit the jackpot.

It was a phenomenon.

Anyone who remembers 1987/88 will remember that it was all Whitesnake and Def Leppard that year.

It's hard to compare "1987" to the earlier albums as they are very different.

But if that album never happened the way it did, we certainly wouldn't be discussing the band right now.

They would have been in the same category as Gillan and Rainbow.

[binnie]

That's an interesting way of looking at it.

I have to say that, thinking about it now, Rainbow's output is far more impressive - and important - than Whitesnake's but, as you say, their music is far less well known.

Can't say I'm even familiar with Gillan's music to be honest....

[Mr. Vengeance]

Is Jasper Coverdale doing some of these lead vocals?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I recently caught their Hammersmith Apollo concert on HDNet, and I have to say, it fucking rocked (I think it's from '06).... Got Reb Beach and Doug Aldrich on guitar, really sounded great...

Here was their opening song....

[rocking ron]

Forevermore isn't a bad album but I like the one before : Good to be Bad , more!!!

Reb Beach, was he guitar player in Winger I believe.

I know Dough Aldrich was a long time ago guitar player in ( his ?) band : BAD MOON RISING , they've made 3 or 4 albums and didn't sound bad at all!!

Typycal 80's stuff, melodic rock to AOR!!

[Seshmeister]

I was never a fan myself but Kip Winger used to post here a while ago before you registered.

[Seshmeister]

I recently caught their Hammersmith Apollo concert on HDNet, and I have to say, it fucking rocked (I think it's from '06).... Got Reb Beach and Doug Aldrich on guitar, really sounded great...

Here was their opening song....



You wonder for how many more years is Tommy Aldridge is going to be able to play like that.

[rocking ron]

Forevermore isn't a bad album at all but I like the one before : GOOD TO BE BAD , more!!!

Doug Aldrich have played before Whitesnake in a band named : BAD MOON RISING .

Typycal 80's sound from melodic rock to AOR and they've made 3 or 4 albums I believe!!!

[rocking ron]

he there was kip again??

[rocking ron]

You wonder for how many more years is Tommy Aldridge is going to be able to play like that.

That was a good show indeed, got it also!!!

At the moment there's a 'new' live dvd for sale from 1990 !!! (with Adrian Vandenberg ) & Steve Vai????????????????????

[jhale667]

I recently caught their Hammersmith Apollo concert on HDNet, and I have to say, it fucking rocked (I think it's from '06).... Got Reb Beach and Doug Aldrich on guitar, really sounded great...

Here was their opening song....



Pretty sure I've played that black Les Paul Custom of Aldrich's...it plays and sounds about as cool as you'd imagine a 70s black beauty would...frickin' awesome. He also had one of the Rossington LPs at the one-off gig I teched for him at too. He is an amazing player, and nice guy...and so local I occasionally see him at the supermarket...yep - location, location. :cool:

[binnie]

I think Doug is pretty special - flashy, but not a show off.

[sonrisa salvaje]

I fall on the side of Whitesnake's music being better pre 1987. I'll admit that the 87 album was the first one i ever bought but it didn't take me long to start tracking down their previous work. Lovehunter, Come An Get It, and Saints and Sinners are all killer records. Slide It In wasn't too bad either. The one record i never heard after 1987 was the Restless Heart cd. I think it was and still is available only as an import so unfortunately i only heard the title track which is great. Can anyone vouch for the rest of it?

[chefcraig]

The one record i never heard after 1987 was the Restless Heart cd. I think it was and still is available only as an import so unfortunately i only heard the title track which is great. Can anyone vouch for the rest of it?

If you'd like to hear the entire album, there is a person over at Youtube with their own Whitesnake channel. This is the link: Whitesnake Fan 101 (http://www.youtube.com/user/WhitesnakeFan101). I recall reading somewhere that some of this material was in truth leftovers and unused songs from the Coverdale/Page project issued a few years previously, but have never found solid confirmation of it.

[Coyote]

I bought Forevermore just before I saw Whitesnake in Helsinki a few weeks ago... (killer show, bought a t-shirt.)

Needless to say, I appreciate a guitar sound that gets the subwoofer going. :biggrin:
Not to mention the overall sound of the album, which to my ears sounds "natural", in comparison with other rock/metal albums (which at worst can sound Pro Tooled to death, or plain ol' shit).

Yes, the lyrics are a bit cliché, but who cares? Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a socially conscious Whitesnake-lyric...
At least DC didn't use the phrase "get your fingers burned". (Although it's a better phrase than "behind shades of blue" á la The 69 Eyes... :biggrin: )

It's albums like this that deserve being bought...

[binnie]

I fall on the side of Whitesnake's music being better pre 1987.

I would agree. 'Forevermore' and 'Good to Be Bad' are closer to that era than the late 80s material.

[rocking ron]

That was a good show indeed, got it also!!!

At the moment there's a 'new' live dvd for sale from 1990 !!! (with Adrian Vandenberg ) & Steve Vai????????????????????

MONSTERS OF ROCK = DONINGTON August 18th 1990 with Thunder , Quierboys , Poison , Aerosmith and

Headliner WHITESNAKE , I,ve finally found this DVD and have to say it looks like the show is transfered from Video to DVD , just like the inlay's saying : "..using all the

current digital bells & wistles to maximize the sonic of the show...not only in all the Stereo glory...but, also with a blistering , first time ever 5.1 Surround Sound mix...etc "

I think this show (view/filming) compared to AC/DC - Donington 1991 is a little 'poor', but this is also the charme of it !! ( That late 80's begin 90's 'vibe')

And ofcourse the line-up, with Adrian Vandenberg, Steve Vai (2nd time there in 2 years!!! '88 w/ the other 'Dave:hitch:), Rudy Sarzo ,Tommy Aldridge and David Coverdale and the great set-list with

songs like : Crying in the Rain , Fool for your Loving ,

Here I go again , Cheap and Nasty , Slide it In , Still of the Night ..(.and more ..) makes it worth watchin' it.:baaa:

[rocking ron]

And the disc ( Whitesnake - Donington 1990 ) contains also a 'Slide Show' and 'Behind the Scenes' with interviews etc :baaa: