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Hardrock69
04-19-2011, 01:21 AM
Just got this DVD from a friend. Incomplete set, for one thing.

Interesting to see this.....2 days after Brian Jones was murdered.
Interesting to see 150,000 people from "Swinging London".

Keef was playing an immaculate '58-'59 Korina Flying V.....

Mick Taylor's first live performance with them.....

And then....Satisfaction.....good GAWD! One of the guitarist's guitars gets HORRIBLY out of tune in an instant.....and the butchered, out-of-tune crappy-sounding Satisfaction riff just goes on and on and on.....finally, the guitarist (I can't tell which one was out of tune, as the camera angles were not really focused on their hands very much) stops playing that fucking rubbish and plays the riff on one of the higher strings.....by that point I was so annoyed I just turned it off.

A sea of fucking people, and the PA system was this tiny piece of shit.....the Stones were there on this tiny little fucking stage.....how primitive.....

http://i52.tinypic.com/2nr1xn6.jpg

FORD
04-19-2011, 02:33 AM
Historical gig, being that it was Brian's "memorial" and the Stones first live performance with Mick Taylor. But definitely NOT their best performance. They were playing way too slow for one thing. It's true that they hadn't been on the road for a while, and were breaking in a new guitarist, but Charlie must have been half asleep or something with the slow tempo.

Obviously they did far better as the 1969 tour moved on (except for that whole Altamont fiasco). Just for history's sake though, I really hope the complete Hyde Park show surfaces some day. There's gotta be a complete film somewhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e1_K-JDfOk

FORD
04-19-2011, 02:40 AM
I can't really tell which guitarist was out of tune either..... truth is, I think it was BOTH :biggrin:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkIj1DapjQ

Jérôme Frenchise
04-19-2011, 06:00 AM
I've been happy with my video tape for over 20 years.

They say around 500,000 people were there in Hyde Park that day.
Between that figure and Hardrock's 150,000, the actual number might have been 300,000?
It was a free concert though.

They played rather slowly, that's right... Charlie and Keith were probably on white horse, maybe Mick was as well...
Anyway, the whole film looks and sounds overloaded with... substances...

The performances that were caught in November and December were much better, thicker...
Like what you can hear on "Get yer ya-ya's out", especially "Midnight Rambler", one of their top 5 tunes ever, and certainly their best blues song IMO.

You can get the whole (audio) Hyde Park show here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B8ICAZ6Z

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 06:40 AM
http://www.teachthefacts.org/images/mickjagger1.jpg


:elvis:

ODShowtime
04-19-2011, 07:33 AM
Breaking news! Mick Jagger is old! Thanks for the tip asshole!

chefcraig
04-19-2011, 09:05 AM
And then....Satisfaction.....good GAWD! One of the guitarist's guitars gets HORRIBLY out of tune in an instant.....and the butchered, out-of-tune crappy-sounding Satisfaction riff just goes on and on and on.....finally, the guitarist (I can't tell which one was out of tune, as the camera angles were not really focused on their hands very much) stops playing that fucking rubbish and plays the riff on one of the higher strings.....by that point I was so annoyed I just turned it off.

A sea of fucking people, and the PA system was this tiny piece of shit.....the Stones were there on this tiny little fucking stage.....how primitive.....



Historical gig, being that it was Brian's "memorial" and the Stones first live performance with Mick Taylor. But definitely NOT their best performance. They were playing way too slow for one thing. It's true that they hadn't been on the road for a while, and were breaking in a new guitarist, but Charlie must have been half asleep or something with the slow tempo.


There are a few things worth considering for this performance. For one, the group sounds terribly under rehearsed, and having a greenhorn in the band just complicates things further. At that time, fold-back monitors had not been perfected as they are today, so it is entirely possible the individual players couldn't even hear each other, although they were in close proximity. This would explain some of the tentativeness, as well as the tempos being all over the map. (If you listen closely, "HTW" speeds up, just like the record. "Satisfaction" on the other hand...) In a case like this, Watts and Richards would establish the tempo, and the others would take visual clues from this. The problem with this being, more than likely everyone was stoned immaculate, which further hamper onstage communication. Finally, the sound of the recording just plain stinks. Is Bill Wyman's bass even plugged in?

The far more exceptional thing to take away from this has nothing to do with the Rolling Stones. A careful examination of the "Satisfaction" clip (from about 1:34-1:42) reveals with startling clarity the fact that Joey Ramone somehow conquered the mysteries of quantum physics and achieved the ability to time travel back from some ten years in the future in order to attend the show!


http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3108/joeyram.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/joeyram.jpg/)

twonabomber
04-19-2011, 09:57 AM
http://www.teachthefacts.org/images/mickjagger1.jpg


:elvis:

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Yngwie+Malmsteen+51st+Annual+Grammy+Awards+B3ZiJ7_ gH8sl.jpg

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIr1hiuBDQM/S8kRlxMjHmI/AAAAAAAADhQ/JZFpwtxLbEQ/s1600/3malmsteen.jpg&sa=X&ei=0pStTZWzL5GH0QGnlrG1Cw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEOO0XIy7oHOM8XP0wgu6cOW28ngg

fucker's so fat that when he looks down he can't see ELVIS swinging from his nutsack.

Nitro Express
04-19-2011, 10:45 AM
Too many Swedish meatballs.

Nitro Express
04-19-2011, 10:46 AM
Mick looked old when I saw him in 1982. Now he looks like something that crawled out of a crypt. Maybe the Rolling Stones are zombies?

hambon4lif
04-19-2011, 10:55 AM
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Yngwie+Malmsteen+51st+Annual+Grammy+Awards+B3ZiJ7_ gH8sl.jpg

http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sIr1hiuBDQM/S8kRlxMjHmI/AAAAAAAADhQ/JZFpwtxLbEQ/s1600/3malmsteen.jpg&sa=X&ei=0pStTZWzL5GH0QGnlrG1Cw&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEOO0XIy7oHOM8XP0wgu6cOW28ngg

fucker's so fat that when he looks down he can't see ELVIS swinging from his nutsack.It looks like he 'unleashed the fookin' fury' alright.....on the scale!

FORD
04-19-2011, 11:56 AM
Too many Swedish meatballs.

I heard Yingyang is a frequent visitor to IKEA. It's not that he buys a lot of furniture there or anything.... he's just willing to spend hours walking through the entire menagerie just to get to the meatballs at the cafeteria in the middle of the store.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FclFsSKFfeM/TaJt-OMbXCI/AAAAAAAAA4M/aeGbHQ9J-pg/s400/IKEA+meatballs.JPG

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 10:57 PM
:elvis:

FORD
04-19-2011, 11:08 PM
Keep that fookin fury out of the Stones threads!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HriefYc5c6g

FORD
04-19-2011, 11:11 PM
Apparently this clip is a "bonus track" on some editions of the Hyde Park DVD (not part of the original release)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPlMx64qXY

ELVIS
04-19-2011, 11:26 PM
Keep that fookin fury out of the Stones threads!



Twonobama started it...

Jérôme Frenchise
04-20-2011, 03:20 AM
Apparently this clip is a "bonus track" on some editions of the Hyde Park DVD (not part of the original release)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPlMx64qXY

Cool!

All you get on the original release is a bit of "Mercy Mercy" that is sliced by a Jagger interview (so is Taylor's solo on "I'm Free").

There's another tune they played that was taken out, "Down home girl", which you can get (audio) by the link I posted above.

My fave moment in the show is the "Honky Tonk Women" intro and the reaction people have (especially a really cute chick sitting
on a guy's shoulders) as many of them probably discovered the song which was out on record 2 days earlier only (a week later
in the US).
You can see the "bold" lyrics, the so catchy open tuning riff and structure work on the folks in the first 20 seconds: http://youtu.be/5e1_K-JDfOk

Jérôme Frenchise
04-20-2011, 04:32 AM
Oh, and they played "Loving cup" as well, that Jagger presented as "Gimme a little drink", supposed to
appear in their next album ("in ten year's time").
It's not uninteresting to hear how they did the tune, compared to the version from "Exile".

Around that time they already did "Tumbling dice" in a slightly faster way under the title "Good time woman".

ODShowtime
04-21-2011, 09:05 PM
The Sympathy for the Devil from this show is pretty cool with all the extra percussion. And that one weird cool song they never played again.

Satan
04-22-2011, 12:57 PM
The Sympathy for the Devil from this show is pretty cool with all the extra percussion. And that one weird cool song they never played again.

You mean this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e2i8wHvlTI

chefcraig
04-22-2011, 01:08 PM
You mean this one?

I was curious which tune ODShowtime was referring to as well. According to THIS (http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/stones-in-the-park.html)site, it would most likely be either "No Expectations", "Mercy, Mercy", or "Downhome Home Girl".

Here is the full set list:

Eulogy for Brian Jones
I'm Yours, She's Mine
Jumpin Jack Flash
No Expectations
Mercy, Mercy
Stray Cat Blues
I'm Free
Down Home Girl
Love in Vain
Loving Cup
Midnight Rambler
Satisfaction
Honky Tonk Woman
Street Fighting Man
Sympathy for the Devil

ODShowtime
04-25-2011, 07:19 AM
You mean this one?

Yeah Satan. That song is awesome!

Satan
04-25-2011, 02:36 PM
The riff that Taylor is playing on the slide reminds me a little of Zeppelin's "Traveling Riverside Blues" (or whomever Jimmy plagarized it from) http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Jérôme Frenchise
04-25-2011, 05:48 PM
The riff that Taylor is playing on the slide reminds me a little of Zeppelin's "Traveling Riverside Blues" (or whomever Jimmy plagarized it from) http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Johnny Winter's first album starts with "I'm yours and I'm hers", a tune that sounds a lot like the Stones' "I'm yours, she's mine", which, as it seems, they only performed once in Hyde Park...
In a retrospective 20 years after the Hyde Park concert, I read that the Stones had composed that song for Johnny Winter, and it looks plausible as they never played it again on stage.

The riff and vocal lines sound like they were "borrowed"... And so does Led Zeppelin's "Travelling Riverside Blues". I guess both the Stones and Zep' didn't dare publish either songs because of copyright issues. Surprizing, by the way, as both bands fumbled a lot in Delta blues, Led Zeppelin plagiarizing and including whole music parts and lyrics, especially in "II" - why bother for one more?

That said, at least the Stones mentioned their sources, which Led Zeppelin didn't always...

Anyway, both "I'm yours, she's mine" and "Travelling Riverside blues" are kickasss - and Johnny Winter's versions kicks ass too IMO. Love those big slide riffs! :rockin:

chefcraig
04-25-2011, 06:26 PM
Johnny Winter's first album starts with "I'm yours and I'm hers", a tune that sounds a lot like the Stones' "I'm yours, she's mine", which, as it seems, they only performed once in Hyde Park...
In a retrospective 20 years after the Hyde Park concert, I read that the Stones had composed that song for Johnny Winter, and it looks plausible as they never played it again on stage.


I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with "Silver Train". Somehow, Winter wound up recording it for his Still Alive And Well album months before the Stones put out their version on Goat's Head Soup. Winter also recorded a version of "Let It Bleed" for his record, and both songs pretty much blow away the Stones' versions. Hell, throw in Winter's cool-ass versions of "Stray Cat Blues" and "Jumpin' Jack Flash", and you have a pretty good case for him to be the only guy on the planet allowed to cover Stones songs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRccYdgLjYI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWRVPJCS4s

Kristy
04-25-2011, 06:39 PM
The riff that Taylor is playing on the slide reminds me a little of Zeppelin's "Traveling Riverside Blues" (or whomever Jimmy plagarized it from) http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Hail Satan!

Jérôme Frenchise
04-25-2011, 06:41 PM
I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with "Silver Train". Somehow, Winter wound up recording it for his Still Alive And Well album months before the Stones put out their version on Goat's Head Soup. Winter also recorded a version of "Let It Bleed" for his record, and both songs pretty much blow away the Stones' versions. Hell, throw in Winter's cool-ass versions of "Stray Cat Blues" and "Jumpin' Jack Flash", and you have a pretty good case for him to be the only guy on the planet allowed to cover Stones songs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRccYdgLjYI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKWRVPJCS4s

Wow! I agree! Winter whips the Stones' tunes up and makes them sound like nobody else would!

I'm listening to these two fucking great covers and nodding! :)

Satan
04-25-2011, 07:02 PM
Of course the Stones actually wrote and recorded Silver Train back in 1970, they just didn't release it then......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSzFWNVHNA

Satan
04-25-2011, 07:24 PM
Oddly enough, Winter's version sounds a lot more like the "unreleased" original. Guess he must have heard the bootleg before any of us did?

ODShowtime
04-29-2011, 08:23 PM
I'm Yours, She's Mine, did they ever record that in the studio? Did they just compose it for the show? That riff is just nasty. It's funny that they played Down Home Girl in 1969. So far from the later US tour.

The Loving Cup is nice too with Mick giving the drunken slur. This is a cool show. If only they stayed in tune better.

chefcraig
04-29-2011, 08:58 PM
I'm Yours, She's Mine, did they ever record that in the studio? Did they just compose it for the show? That riff is just nasty. It's funny that they played Down Home Girl in 1969. So far from the later US tour.



From what I've read, this is the only time they played the song. Apparently, this was Brian Jones' favorite song at that time. It has been called "Lemon Squeezer" on several bootlegs, but the correct title is "I'm Yours & I'm Hers", written and performed by Johnny Winter on his second album released shortly before Jones death.