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jacksmar
07-12-2011, 09:38 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/11/avlon.debt.talks/index.html?hpt=po_t2

CNN) -- The enemy of problem-solving in politics is ideological inflexibility.

That is the case President Obama made to the American people on Monday as ongoing debt and deficit talks try to stop the nation from default on August 2.

The president essentially called the bluff of conservatives who constantly call for action on the deficit but are making a habit of walking away from ambitious deals.

jacksmar
07-12-2011, 09:41 AM
Ubama is no adult. He’s suffers from impaired cognitive functioning and demonstrates intellectual disability.

To the idiots on the right, the tax cuts don’t and won’t work. Household and corporate taxes are progressive. Personal taxes have not been indexed to prices and are artificially low. You want to fix taxes? Flat tax. Thanks Steve Forbes.

The socialist left won’t part with socialism. Medicare, Medicaid Social Security Pensions Welfare Education are all socialized and the left won’t pull their collective “cock” out. Instead they’ll just keep on fuckin’. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid alone are upside down for more than 40 Trillion dollars. Keep on fuckin’.

Spending cuts don’t and won’t work. It’s bullshit. And Ubama, the retard, is the last person in the room fit to lead and he is a neophyte too mentally disabled to know his own credit card balance.

The only way to get this under control is to cut government. Programs and earmark appropriations will still exist. You have to start throwing away everything.

I’ll start: The USDA spends huge amounts on subsidies and small amounts on enforcement. The USDA subsidizes tobacco and corn. These subsidies are going to Monsanto, ADM, and other factory farms. Farm subsidies are corporate welfare, period. Socialism.

Let ADM, Monsanto, GM, and Boeing get by on the strength of their products and not their lobbyists.

Hardrock69
07-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Why not just elect a new Fuehrer?

BigBadBrian
07-12-2011, 02:02 PM
Why not just elect a new Fuehrer?

We did in Nov of 2008.

http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/e/e2/165207_190obama_nazi.jpg

bueno bob
07-12-2011, 02:31 PM
Oh goody! You know, whenever I click on threads like this, all I basically get out of it is "Blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah blah blah blah Obama blah blah blah blah blah blah Obama blah blah Obama blah blah blah socialism blah blah blah blah Nazi blah blah that damn Obama blah blah blah." I'd probably shit myself with glee if any of the usual retards (see above) had anything better to offer than that, but since they're of limited mental capacity and mostly incapable of discerning anything more complicated than shoelace tying, I usually just roll with it.

You want a smaller government? Fine. Let me suggest you any number of countries outside of the U.S. where you can find one. Hope it works for ya, pal. Good luck. Problem you run into with countries like the U.S. is that (TA DA!) we have a rather LARGE population that's been awfully spoiled over the years, and thus requires larger government to function it's basic services for numerous types of people with varied backgrounds.

Smaller government is better for smaller populations with smaller variety in the type of people that they govern over. That's elementary. Any other type of thinking is Fox News pseudo-science, which in turn is fallancy and falsehood. Government's not your enemy. That's a myth perpetrated by Ronald Reagan (the traitor) that unfortunately too many feable-minded folks like to buy into because they're too easily sold on scare-think.

Thread oughta be locked.

FORD
07-12-2011, 02:50 PM
Ironically enough, this is probably the first time Jerksmear has posted anything logical at all.....


I’ll start: The USDA spends huge amounts on subsidies and small amounts on enforcement. The USDA subsidizes tobacco and corn. These subsidies are going to Monsanto, ADM, and other factory farms. Farm subsidies are corporate welfare, period. Socialism.

Let ADM, Monsanto, GM, and Boeing get by on the strength of their products and not their lobbyists.

....at least that part of it was. Though I still say saving GM was a good thing, due to the number of jobs saved by doing so. Hopefully they have learned their lesson and will now make cars more compatible with the 21st century. ADM and Monsanto on the other hand, serve no valid purpose at all, and are in fact, killing people with their GMO crap.

jacksmar
07-12-2011, 04:57 PM
Thanks for reading to the bottom TARD.

Even I know that anyone involved in this exercise in futility won't CUT shit. A cut means a program goes away or is actually budgeted at or below deficit levels and with all these assholes trying to get their face time it just won't happen.

jacksmar
07-12-2011, 05:11 PM
Bob, you generally get it so explain your support of the following socialist programs: The African Development Foundation, The U.S. Botanic Garden, The Environmental Protection Agency
The Federal Communications Commission, The Federal Reserve System, The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, The National Railroad Passenger Corporation, The Social Security Administration, The Office of National Drug Control Policy, The Department of Agriculture, The Department of Education, The Department of Health and Human Services, The Department of Housing and Urban Development, The Department of Labor, The Broadcasting Board of Governors

Thanks

jacksmar
07-12-2011, 05:24 PM
Add: Department of Homeland Security, The Department of Energy, National Endowment for the Arts, The National Technical Information Service, Office of Refugee Resettlement, Office of Special Counsel, Office of Science and Technology Policy, Office of Government Ethics, Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, U.S. Sentencing Commission, U.S. International Trade Commission, White House Commission on Presidential Scholars, Women's Bureau, Defense Security Cooperation Agency, Domestic Policy Council, Economic Adjustment Office, Endangered Species Committee, English Language Acquisition Office, Export Administration, Bureau of Industry and Security, Bureau of Economic Analysis

Thanks

Guitar Shark
07-12-2011, 05:33 PM
I note that the Department of Defense was conspicuously absent from your list...

Nitro Express
07-12-2011, 06:01 PM
All this fear mongering about the default reminds me of all the fear mongering to get the bankers bailout. If we would have just let those cock sucking banks fail we would be in the early stages of recovery now. But no, we got scared, caved in and got ass reamed for it. What exactly does default mean? We have plenty of resources to still pay the interest on the debt especially by getting rid of the waste in the government. Also, the government has plenty of assets they could sell off like buildings and unused facilities and such. Napoleon sold us the Louisiana Territory to pay his war debts maybe we will have to sell it to China now to pay ours. :biggrin:

Nitro Express
07-12-2011, 06:02 PM
I note that the Department of Defense was conspicuously absent from your list...

Shit. That's the biggest piece of cheese in the wheel.

jacksmar
07-12-2011, 06:05 PM
OK, add it. Happy? Where is the DoD located Guitar? The Pentgon. I'm fine with getting rid of that department. Let the Pentagon handle the whole thing.
I would add I was pulling the "list" from the US Government Agencies Directory.

Guitar Shark
07-12-2011, 07:09 PM
I would add I was pulling the "list" from the US Government Agencies Directory.

Ironic that you would not have access to that list without government assistance... :D

Nitro Express
07-12-2011, 07:16 PM
We used to have a Department of Deffense but now it's the Department of Offense. Invade, Pakistahn, Invade Yemmen, Invade Libya. Who's next?

bueno bob
07-12-2011, 09:45 PM
Bob, you generally get it so explain your support of the following socialist programs: The African Development Foundation, The U.S. Botanic Garden, The Environmental Protection Agency
The Federal Communications Commission, The Federal Reserve System, The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, The National Railroad Passenger Corporation, The Social Security Administration, The Office of National Drug Control Policy, The Department of Agriculture, The Department of Education, The Department of Health and Human Services, The Department of Housing and Urban Development, The Department of Labor, The Broadcasting Board of Governors

Thanks

Challenge accepted.

Give me a day (or three - I'm gainfully employed) and I'll list the pros if I'm in favor of it and admit to the cons if I'm not.

Fair nuff?

Dr. Love
07-12-2011, 10:51 PM
Does anyone else think this thread title is ironically accurate? :D

LoungeMachine
07-13-2011, 02:35 AM
I note that the Department of Defense was conspicuously absent from your list...

And his smaller gu'ment argument was absent during the years 2000-2008

:gulp:

Ironic.

Nickdfresh
07-13-2011, 05:03 AM
Bob, you generally get it so explain your support of the following socialist programs: The African Development Foundation, The U.S. Botanic Garden, The Environmental Protection Agency
The Federal Communications Commission, The Federal Reserve System, The National Aeronautics and Space Administration, The National Railroad Passenger Corporation, The Social Security Administration, The Office of National Drug Control Policy, The Department of Agriculture, The Department of Education, The Department of Health and Human Services, The Department of Housing and Urban Development, The Department of Labor, The Broadcasting Board of Governors

Thanks

Don't forget socialized medicine (AKA The Veterans Admin.)...

Guitar Shark
07-13-2011, 11:47 AM
Does anyone else think this thread title is ironically accurate? :D

It rulz

jhale667
07-13-2011, 11:58 AM
Does anyone else think this thread title is ironically accurate? :D

Yep...Jerksmear "don't get it" ...much like a neutered dog. :lmao:

kwame k
07-13-2011, 09:38 PM
I note that the Department of Defense was conspicuously absent from your list...

.....that and common sense:)

BigBadBrian
07-14-2011, 07:24 AM
Don't forget socialized medicine (AKA The Veterans Admin.)...

With only a few exceptions, the VA is a good reason why the government should stay out of healthcare.

Also, most of the things people on both sides of the aisle listed here (VA, DoD, EPA, etc.) are not examples of socialism. The government fully taking over the auto industry (which it hasn't done...yet) would be.

BigBadBrian
07-14-2011, 07:30 AM
Ubama is no adult. He’s suffers from impaired cognitive functioning and demonstrates intellectual disability.

To the idiots on the right, the tax cuts don’t and won’t work. Household and corporate taxes are progressive. Personal taxes have not been indexed to prices and are artificially low. You want to fix taxes? Flat tax. Thanks Steve Forbes.

The socialist left won’t part with socialism. Medicare, Medicaid Social Security Pensions Welfare Education are all socialized and the left won’t pull their collective “cock” out. Instead they’ll just keep on fuckin’. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid alone are upside down for more than 40 Trillion dollars. Keep on fuckin’.

Spending cuts don’t and won’t work. It’s bullshit. And Ubama, the retard, is the last person in the room fit to lead and he is a neophyte too mentally disabled to know his own credit card balance.

The only way to get this under control is to cut government. Programs and earmark appropriations will still exist. You have to start throwing away everything.

I’ll start: The USDA spends huge amounts on subsidies and small amounts on enforcement. The USDA subsidizes tobacco and corn. These subsidies are going to Monsanto, ADM, and other factory farms. Farm subsidies are corporate welfare, peri od. Socialism.

Let ADM, Monsanto, GM, and Boeing get by on the strength of their products and not their lobbyists.

You may have a point above, but nobody in their right mind is going to do away with Social Security or Medicare. Even Paul Ryan's financial strategy was intended to be a starting point for negotiations and intended to SAVE those programs, since the trust funds that fund them are going broke.

FORD
07-14-2011, 12:42 PM
You may have a point above, but nobody in their right mind is going to do away with Social Security or Medicare. Even Paul Ryan's financial strategy was intended to be a starting point for negotiations and intended to SAVE those programs, since the trust funds that fund them are going broke.

Problem with that statement is to assume the teabaggers in Congress (Ryan included) are IN their right mind. I make no such assumption, and I doubt Boner and Mitch the Turtle do either. Hell, I think old Mitch is scared to death of those lunatics.

Nitro Express
07-14-2011, 02:11 PM
No other president in US history has spent as much on non productive means or brought us to the brink of default. A lot of the problem is Barrack Wreaking Ball Obama refuses to make deals. Would we be in this much of a mess if Bill Clinton was in the White House right now? I doubt it. He would make deals. Obama just says let me spend more money or I'm going to stonewall you.

As far as the fiscal mess goes it's been in the making for the last 40 years. Both Democrats and Republicans are to blame. Both parties are full of professional politicians who are out for their own interests. You just can't blame one group for all the problem but the public elected Barrack Obama to start turning the ship and start the recovery process. He and the Democrat congress sunk the ship. They had a window where they had full power and the spent us into oblivion. Where's the needed banking regulation? Where's the fiscal responsibility? Where's the repeal of Bush's anti-constitutional laws? They did nothing while making the situation worse.

It seems all the Democrats do is blame Bush while they make things worse and then try and stir paranoia over some imaginary group called tea baggers. Tea baggers seem to be the new boogie men out to get us. When you have no solutions the only thing you can do is blame someone else or cause a distraction. Historically failed politicians have demonized specific groups of people and even have started wars as a distraction. A divided house falls and the US right now is a divided house.

jhale667
07-14-2011, 02:35 PM
No other president in US history has spent as much on non productive means or brought us to the brink of default. A lot of the problem is Barrack Wreaking Ball Obama refuses to make deals. Would we be in this much of a mess if Bill Clinton was in the White House right now? I doubt it. He would make deals. Obama just says let me spend more money or I'm going to stonewall you.

You are absolutely talking out your ass there. Go look up "WTF has Obama" done, and get it right.
If he was stonewalling, why would his own base be referring to him as the "Capitulater in Chief"? WTF hasn't he caved on for these greedy 1-percenter-reach-around scumbags? He's finally standing UP to them. Wish he hadn't agreed to give away the farm before he did though.

They've gotten pretty much everything they want, and it's not enough - because their admitted sole interest is in ENDING his Presidency. Not helping the country, the economy, seniors and veterans...it's all about get the black guy out of office. It's sickening.

Nitro Express
07-14-2011, 05:12 PM
What Barrack Obama has done is charged up a credit card and given the money to the banks while sticking the US taxpayer with the bill. He has deployed more troops than Bush and expanded the war front into other countries. He renewed the Patriot Act. He passed healthcare legislation that does nothing but help the insurance industry and take more benefits away from those on Medicare.

He pretty much IS what you guys claim you hate. You people can't see past the brand loyalty you so blindly follow.

Basically take George Bush, paint him black and run him as a Democrat and you people shoot sparks out your ass and cum all over yourselves. The dude just might win a second term because this country is full of dumb brand loyal fuckwits.

Keep raising the debt ceiling and the US will default in an uncontrolled manner once the world market adjusts it. You will have real carnage then. If we can cut the spending and pay the debt down in the controlled manner there is pain but not what will happen if we just keep kicking the can down the road.

As far as the Republicans go they need to cut the military spending and some of their pet programs as well. But then Obama seems to love to deploy troops just like a neocon. He's owned by the same banks that Dick Cheney was in bed with. Why can't people just get past the big show and see there is no real difference with any of these parties. They should just be called WallStreetcrats.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2011, 06:39 PM
With only a few exceptions, the VA is a good reason why the government should stay out of healthcare.

So what's your alternative?


Also, most of the things people on both sides of the aisle listed here (VA, DoD, EPA, etc.) are not examples of socialism. The government fully taking over the auto industry (which it hasn't done...yet) would be.

So, there really isn't any bonafide "socialism" in the U.S.? Eh?

Nickdfresh
07-14-2011, 06:54 PM
Dude, do you just completely make shit up out of your ass?


What Barrack Obama has done is charged up a credit card and given the money to the banks while sticking the US taxpayer with the bill.

Um, the entire United States gov't has done that since essentially the beginning. And most of the TARP funds were paid back by "the banks."


He has deployed more troops than Bush and expanded the war front into other countries.

How the fuck would that be? Bush invaded Iraq!


He renewed the Patriot Act. He passed healthcare legislation that does nothing but help the insurance industry and take more benefits away from those on Medicare.

He pretty much IS what you guys claim you hate. You people can't see past the brand loyalty you so blindly follow.

Basically take George Bush, paint him black and run him as a Democrat and you people shoot sparks out your ass and cum all over yourselves. The dude just might win a second term because this country is full of dumb brand loyal fuckwits.

Keep raising the debt ceiling and the US will default in an uncontrolled manner once the world market adjusts it. You will have real carnage then. If we can cut the spending and pay the debt down in the controlled manner there is pain but not what will happen if we just keep kicking the can down the road.

As far as the Republicans go they need to cut the military spending and some of their pet programs as well. But then Obama seems to love to deploy troops just like a neocon. He's owned by the same banks that Dick Cheney was in bed with. Why can't people just get past the big show and see there is no real difference with any of these parties. They should just be called WallStreetcrats.


Oh Jesus... :rolleyes:

I have my complaints about Obama, but "he" didn't renew the Patriot Act, Congress did! Do I really need to go on with your cavalcade of misinformed spewing of "factoids?"

PETE'S BROTHER
07-14-2011, 07:00 PM
:popc1:

do it, nick

chefcraig
07-14-2011, 07:06 PM
:popc1:

do it, nick

Yeah, but could you do it before 9PM? There is a new episode of Burn Notice on tonight, plus I want to catch a rerun of A&E's The Glades, which I missed Sunday evening.

PETE'S BROTHER
07-14-2011, 07:12 PM
that's eastern time, ya know.

chefcraig
07-14-2011, 07:29 PM
that's eastern time, ya know.

"This is home, the only one I know."

Nickdfresh
07-14-2011, 07:30 PM
I'm beginning to think of myself as one of these AMC characters...

chefcraig
07-14-2011, 07:48 PM
Mad Men or Breaking Bad?

PETE'S BROTHER
07-14-2011, 07:53 PM
Mad Men or Breaking Bad?

i thought he meant pacer or rambler...:lmao:

Nickdfresh
07-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Mad Men or Breaking Bad?

Both with a little bit of Walking Dead mixed in...

ODShowtime
07-14-2011, 09:40 PM
And his smaller gu'ment argument was absent during the years 2000-2008

:gulp:

Ironic.

Big government is ok as long as it's telling you what to do in your private life or stealing from you or incarcerating or killing you or other people. If it's telling the pirates and thieves in this country not to steal quite as much, then big government is bad. If it helps people or enriches their lives it's bad.

jacksmar needs to either get off his meds or get back on them. One or the other because his rants don't make much sense.

FORD
07-14-2011, 10:26 PM
Even Ann the Man knows that cutting Social Security is a bad move....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TILSXDk4X_M

FORD
07-14-2011, 10:34 PM
Hannazi has gone off his meds..... you know how bad it is when trAnn is the "sane" one on the set. :biggrin:

jhale667
07-15-2011, 01:13 AM
Yeah, but could you do it before 9PM? There is a new episode of Burn Notice on tonight, plus I want to catch a rerun of A&E's The Glades, which I missed Sunday evening.

What's the female lead on that shows name? Odd look, but smokin' body... :sex:

Little Texan
07-15-2011, 01:52 AM
I'm beginning to think of myself as one of these AMC characters...


i thought he meant pacer or rambler...:lmao: