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Seshmeister
08-02-2011, 04:01 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/sarah-churchwell-the-wilful-ignorance-that-has-dragged-the-us-to-the-brink-2330179.html

The Tea Party version of the American Revolution is not just fundamentalist. It is also Disneyfied, sentimentalised, and whitewashed

Tuesday, 2 August 2011


Here's a monumental historical irony: a moment in the origins of the United States that every American schoolchild learns to view with pride, the Boston Tea Party, has now become a symbol of our (inter)national shame. In one sense, it is difficult to know what to say in response to the utter irrationality of the Tea Party's self-destructive decision to sabotage the American political process – and thus its own country's economy, and the global economy.

Last week, while the US government was locked in stalemate and risked defaulting on its national debt for the first time in its history (and thus also defying the Constitution that Tea Partiers supposedly hold sacred, which declares in the 14th Amendment that it is illegal for Congress to default), Michele Bachmann instructed her followers not to listen to those who attempted to "scare" them with untruths that the US would default if it didn't raise the debt ceiling. When, of course, that is precisely what it would have done. But the Tea Party has never let facts get in the way of its belief system, and now that belief system is genuinely threatening the wellbeing of the nation they claim to love.


Mottos are supposed to express a philosophy: in so far as the Tea Party can be said to have anything so exalted as a philosophy, their motto is quite telling. They are one of the most inaccurately named movements in American political history, but that inaccuracy is itself emblematic of the party's adamantine ignorance. Any American schoolchild can tell you the motto of the historical Boston Tea Party from which they take their name and – they mistakenly believe – their inspiration: "No taxation without representation."

Impatient with those extra two words, evidently, the Tea Party has truncated this proposition to something simpler: "No taxation." Never mind that the US has among the lowest levels of taxation in the developed world, matched only by Mexico and Chile (are these the nations the Tea Party would like to emulate?). Never mind that the nation's actual Founding Fathers were perfectly prepared to pay taxes – they just thought those taxes should purchase them a democratic voice in their own government.

The motto that came out of the Constitutional Convention was not "In God We Trust": it was "E Pluribus Unum," out of many, one. The phrase "In God We Trust" emerged from the American Civil War, but it wasn't put on US currency until the Cold War, in 1955. The following year, the same year he signed the Civil Rights bill into law, Eisenhower made it the nation's motto.

In other words, In God We Trust is an act of revisionist history and retrospective religiosity, reinserting religion into our national history. But the attempt to create one from many has led to Civil War more than once (the American Revolution was a civil war), and parts of the South regularly seceding (as they threatened to do during the Constitution Congress, did do in the 1860s, and did again in 1944, with the so-called "Dixiecrats").

Texas was forever threatening to secede. The Tea Party could secede with my blessing: E Pluribus Unum is clearly not a motto that they are prepared to embrace – despite their supposed reverence for the Founding Fathers and the American Constitution.

Anyone who followed last year's midterms and knew anything about American history already realised this. Tea Party candidates kept invoking semi-mythical figures such as Paul Revere, who was not a Founding Father at all: in fact, most of Revere's supposed story was a legend written by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow in 1860 to rouse popular sentiment on behalf of the Union cause in the Civil War – in other words, to maintain the spirit of E Pluribus Unum and fight against divisive polarisation.

Tea Partiers love mentioning Thomas Paine because they think they share his "Common Sense" (otherwise known as a sense held in common) but they haven't bothered to read it, and are clearly unfamiliar with essays such as "Public Good", in which Paine wrote that, especially while at war (as America currently is, of course): "To have a clear idea of taxation is necessary to every country, and the more funds we can discover and organise, the less will be the hope of the enemy."

As Harvard historian Jill Lepore argued last year in her brilliant The Whites of their Eyes: The Tea Party's Revolution and the Battle over American History, none of the people voting for the Tea Party candidates knows any of this because they haven't studied American history since grade school, when all American schoolchildren learn a simplified, cartoon version of the American Revolution (which we would never call the "War of Independence").

It is a Sesame Street version of the American constitution and politics, a myth that is being treated as the alpha and omega of our political and legal reality. This is one reason why it has a quasi-religious aspect: it's a myth of genesis, it's a creation myth about America that is just as simple as the idea that God created man and woman: the Founding Fathers created America.

The Tea Party version of the American Revolution is not just fundamentalist: it is also Disneyfied, sentimentalised, and whitewashed. It rests on a naοve, solipsistic and exceptionalist faith that for America it will all work out in the end, because America is "the greatest nation in the world". They take solace in tautology: America is great – this they know – because Fox News tells them so.

Their goal, as others have said, is to roll back the clock a century and more. In 1892, when the robber baron and corrupt financier Jay Gould died, Mark Twain wrote a scathing epitaph: Gould, he said, "reversed the commercial morals of the United States. He had put a blight upon them from which they have never recovered, and from which they will not recover for as much as a century to come. Jay Gould was the mightiest disaster which has ever befallen this country."

It has been a century and we have surely not recovered: but we have managed to create an even mightier disaster. It remains to be seen whether we will recover, but it is long past time to stop making declarations of independence. We need to get back to work forming a more perfect union – or any union at all.

Sarah Churchwell is Professor of American Studies at the University of East Anglia

Nitro Express
08-02-2011, 04:29 AM
I think the Tea Party is pretty much an invention of Republican Party. There was a grass roots movement starting to organize that included conservatives, independents, and moderate liberals. Ron Paul seemed to be popular with these people and the Republican Party got spooked and used Sarah Palin and that type of ilk to take the movement over. So what began as a grass roots nonpartisan people's movement now has become the radical right wing of the Republican party. The thing is they just stole the name. The grass roots movement has no name but it's growing and the consensus is to fire all the current politicians in office. People are that pissed. Nobody is happy.

So let the so called Tea Party be the cannon fodder of the left. If they want to shoot holes in Michelle Bachman or the other idiots go ahead. They deserve it. The powers that be want the partisan political bickering to continue. The old divide and conquer scheme. But frankly, it mostly is a media invention and the media is missing the whole reality that has no name but it sure as hell will come out of the closet at the polls in 2012. The dynamic is changing because everyone's lives have been turned upside down. More and more people are seeing that the politicians currently in charge only care about themselves. There is a political movement in the US and it isn't the Tea Party. It's called vote all the current bastards out of office. We the people are tired of being ignored and robbed.

There is also a move back to individual and state sovereignty thanks to a current ruling in the Supreme Court. Also, we are only five states short of a constitutional convention which if that happens the federal government can be put back into it's proper place by the states. The executive and legislative branches are failing. The judicial branch seems to still uphold the constitution and the states are tired of being bullied by the feds.

So some things are slowly starting to turn for the better. We will see.

Unchainme
08-02-2011, 01:50 PM
I made it a point to take American History in college.

Although it didn't count towards my degree, it was well worth it in being able to tell when the fuckheads would twist American History towards their own political beliefs.

Dirty little secret? America has always had forms of "Unions" and "Socialism" for a longer amount of time then most people would like to believe. And guess what? They WERE GOOD for the country. Child Labor Laws are GOOD. The FDA ensuring people wouldn't be scammed by snake oil salesman or eating unclean food IS GOOD. The fact that this country has set amounts of land to protect and preserve to show our children IS A GOOD THING.

Was amazed at the amount of people killed over trying to fight for a more livable wage in the late 1800's, how those that were amongst the richest in the country would ensure that the press would spin it towards their favor.

Very, very, very sad the fact that people won't take a more active role in educating themselves on civics and the history of this country. Maybe if we did, groups like the "Tea Party" wouldn't be popping up right now.

Va Beach VH Fan
08-02-2011, 02:16 PM
Let's not forget - Easily the most profitable and popular professional sports league in American History, the NFL, is 100% socialist....

FORD
08-02-2011, 02:26 PM
Not to mention the irony of all this KKKoch Brothers anti union fascist bullshit coming out of Wisconsin the very same year that the socialist Green Bay Packers win the Super Bowl.

Unchainme
08-02-2011, 02:43 PM
Not to mention the irony of all this KKKoch Brothers anti union fascist bullshit coming out of Wisconsin the very same year that the socialist Green Bay Packers win the Super Bowl.

I wish the Browns were publicly owned. Lord knows that bullshit in '95 would have never happened. F-Modell.

Nitro Express
08-02-2011, 08:55 PM
I made it a point to take American History in college.

Although it didn't count towards my degree, it was well worth it in being able to tell when the fuckheads would twist American History towards their own political beliefs.

Dirty little secret? America has always had forms of "Unions" and "Socialism" for a longer amount of time then most people would like to believe. And guess what? They WERE GOOD for the country. Child Labor Laws are GOOD. The FDA ensuring people wouldn't be scammed by snake oil salesman or eating unclean food IS GOOD. The fact that this country has set amounts of land to protect and preserve to show our children IS A GOOD THING.

Was amazed at the amount of people killed over trying to fight for a more livable wage in the late 1800's, how those that were amongst the richest in the country would ensure that the press would spin it towards their favor.

Very, very, very sad the fact that people won't take a more active role in educating themselves on civics and the history of this country. Maybe if we did, groups like the "Tea Party" wouldn't be popping up right now.

The Tea Party is an imaginary thing to blame all the problems on. It's not even a legitimate party that appears on the ballot. It's nothing you sign up and join. Certain people blame this imaginary party for all the problems and certain people claim to be members of it or to be leaders in it. The tea party doesn't exist. It's a ghost.

Everyone talks about the new tea party congress members. Excuse me but there wasn't a tea party on the ballot. In most cases, most the people being fingered are Republicans and members of the Republican party.

Seshmeister
08-03-2011, 08:03 AM
Talking of history, for the doom and gloom, it used to be so much better people like Nitro....

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snprelief4.htm

The Bonus Army

In 1924, a grateful Congress voted to give a bonus to World War I veterans - $1.25 for each day served overseas, $1.00 for each day served in the States. The catch was that payment would not be made until 1945.

However, by 1932 the nation had slipped into the dark days of the Depression and the unemployed veterans wanted their money immediately.

In May of that year, some 15,000 veterans, many unemployed and destitute, descended on Washington, D.C. to demand immediate payment of their bonus. They proclaimed themselves the Bonus Expeditionary Force but the public dubbed them the "Bonus Army." Raising ramshackle camps at various places around the city, they waited.

The veterans made their largest camp at Anacostia Flats across the river from the Capitol. Approximately 10,000 veterans, women and children lived in the shelters built from materials dragged out of a junk pile nearby - old lumber, packing boxes and scrap tin covered with roofs of thatched straw.

Discipline in the camp was good, despite the fears of many city residents who spread unfounded "Red Scare" rumors. Streets were laid out, latrines dug, and formations held daily. Newcomers were required to register and prove they were bonafide veterans who had been honorably discharged. Their leader, Walter Waters, stated, "We're here for the duration and we're not going to starve. We're going to keep ourselves a simon-pure veteran's organization. If the Bonus is paid it will relieve to a large extent the deplorable economic condition."

June 17 was described by a local newspaper as "the tensest day in the capital since the war." The Senate was voting on the bill already passed by the House to immediately give the vets their bonus money. By dusk, 10,000 marchers crowded the Capitol grounds expectantly awaiting the outcome. Walter Waters, leader of the Bonus Expeditionary Force, appeared with bad news. The Senate had defeated the bill by a vote of 62 to 18. The crowd reacted with stunned silence. "Sing America and go back to your billets" he commanded, and they did. A silent "Death March" began in front of the Capitol and lasted until July 17, when Congress adjourned.

A month later, on July 28, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the evacuation of the veterans from all government property, Entrusted with the job, the Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two marchers killed. Learning of the shooting at lunch, President Hoover ordered the army to clear out the veterans. Infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks were dispatched with Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur in command. Major Dwight D. Eisenhower served as his liaison with Washington police and Major George Patton led the cavalry.

By 4:45 P.M. the troops were massed on Pennsylvania Ave. below the Capitol. Thousands of Civil Service employees spilled out of work and lined the streets to watch. The veterans, assuming the military display was in their honor, cheered. Suddenly Patton's troopers turned and charged. "Shame, Shame" the spectators cried. Soldiers with fixed bayonets followed, hurling tear gas into the crowd.

By nightfall the BEF had retreated across the Anacostia River where Hoover ordered MacArthur to stop. Ignoring the command, the general led his infantry to the main camp. By early morning the 10,000 inhabitants were routed and the camp in flames. Two babies died and nearby hospitals overwhelmed with casualties. Eisenhower later wrote, "the whole scene was pitiful. The veterans were ragged, ill-fed, and felt themselves badly abused. To suddenly see the whole encampment going up in flames just added to the pity."

References:
Bartlett, John Henry, The Bonus March and the New Deal (1937); Daniels, Roger, The Bonus March; an Episode of the Great Depression (1971).

Seshmeister
08-03-2011, 08:04 AM
So far no one is starving and no one is killing veteran's babies to cut government spending.

Seshmeister
08-03-2011, 08:09 AM
In 1924, a grateful Congress voted to give a bonus to World War I veterans - $1.25 for each day served overseas, $1.00 for each day served in the States. The catch was that payment would not be made until 1945.


Few people know that in 1946 a Mr A Jones of Tuna Fish, Wyoming distributed a gramophone record called 'Loose Pension?' in which he asked how the government had known 21 years in advance when WWII was going to end thus proving the whole conflict was an inside job...

SunisinuS
08-04-2011, 09:48 PM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/03/air-force-bible-and-nukes-dont-mix/?hpt=hp_t2

Washington (CNN)–The Air Force has suspended an ethics briefing for new missile launch officers after concerns were raised about the briefing's heavy focus on religion.

The briefing, taught for nearly 20 years by military chaplains at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, is intended to train Air Force personnel to consider the ethics and morality of launching nuclear weapons - the ultimate doomsday machine.

Many of the slides in the 43 page presentation use a Christian justification for war, displaying pictures of saints like Saint Augustine and using biblical references.

"Abraham organized an Army to rescue Lot," one slide read, referring to the story of the Hebrew patriarch and his nephew found in the book of Genesis.

"Revelation 19:11 Jesus Christ is the mighty warrior," another slide read.

The Air Force halted the class last week after 31 missile launch officers reported the religious nature of the briefing to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a watchdog group which tries to ensure religious freedom among the troops.

"There were several things that they found disgusting," Mikey Weinstein founder of the foundation said. "The first was the fact that there is actually a slide that makes it clear that they're trying to teach that, under fundamentalist Christian doctrine, war is a good thing."

Weinstein said his group had to act.

"We were literally blown away by what we saw on the slide presentation. And one of the first things I did was to contact some of the most senior leadership for the Air Force in the Pentagon and made it very clear that this has to stop immediately," Weinstein said.

The Air Force said headquarters officials were not aware of the religious component of the ethics course, despite it being taught for nearly two decades by chaplains. The matter came to their attention they said when they received an inquiry by Truthout.org, an online publication which initially reported the story.

"That is when we became aware of concerns about the course and our commander here reviewed the course and decided immediately that it was not appropriate for what we want to do and suspended using that briefing," David Smith, an Air Education Training Command spokesman said.

The briefing was meant to mimic an academic setting where concerns could be voiced, according to Smith who claims chaplains were used to oversee the briefing for that reason.

"A chaplain is not required to take action if concerns are voiced," Smith said.

A review is underway at the base to see if an ethics briefing is needed at all.

"Ethics discussions are an important part of professional military development and it is especially important for our airmen who are training to work with nuclear weapons because they have to make hard decisions," Smith said. "We are looking to see if we need a briefing like this... but it will not be a religion based briefing."

standin
08-04-2011, 10:15 PM
Oh most certainly there needs to be an ethics briefing, However, ethics can be and are taught every day of the week without religious overtones.
Even Harvard has included ethical training and an oath in their Business curricular and degrees.

Seshmeister
08-04-2011, 10:59 PM
That is fucking crazy.

It's funny that Lot of all people is used in an ethics class. I would use him as an example of how the teachings of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are shitty(he's revered in all three).

This is the guy that offers his virgin daughters up to a mob to rape and later on gets drunk and fucks them himself!!??

He's put forward as the righteous man??? Bad enough this horrible book is taught to children but using it as a teaching tool on ethics for people with their fingers on the button.

Here's the ethics on nuclear launch, it's ALWAYS and ENTIRELY unethical to ever launch a nuclear strike. I guess that may cause them problems.

Thank fuck for humans being human and the Russian commander who refused to launch against protocols and orders 20 years ago during a false alarm and who lost his job for it...

FORD
08-04-2011, 11:40 PM
That is fucking crazy.

It's funny that Lot of all people is used in an ethics class. I would use him as an example of how the teachings of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are shitty(he's revered in all three).

This is the guy that offers his virgin daughters up to a mob to rape and later on gets drunk and fucks them himself!!??


Well, actually the daughters got him drunk, and then fucked him when he passed out. But it's incest all the same, and a hell of an example of "morality" when you consider the very same story is used as an explanation of how "God hates fags".

kwame k
08-04-2011, 11:49 PM
The story of Lot and Job are classic examples of a God that has....shall we say, "issues".

FORD
08-04-2011, 11:53 PM
I hope JC doesn't get pissed off that we're talking about His Dad.

kwame k
08-05-2011, 12:06 AM
Nah....I'm friends with JC;)

Nitro Express
08-05-2011, 12:30 AM
My grandfather was drafted into World War I. He said when they returned from the war the government called them volunteers. He always used to say he might be dumb but he wasn't that stupid. He was a machine gunner and never liked to talk about the war. When he died I was going through his stuff and found photos of skeletons in trenches with uniforms and boots still on. It kind of looked like the pirates of the carribean vibe. Pretty horrifying stuff to see when you were a little kid. My cousin has those photos and also a big artillery shell my grandfather brought home from the war. My cousin thought it would be a good idea to have the shell checked to see if it still was live and it was! The thing still had explosives in it and my grandfather thought it didn't. It could have blown his house to kingdom come. It sat in the corner of his living room for years.

Growing up in the US in the 70's and 80's were good times. I have no complaints. I would hear the old people talk about the Great Depression and the wars. Some would tell our generation how spoiled we were. I knew we had it better and just figured they were jealous of us.

standin
08-05-2011, 12:33 AM
Nah....I'm friends with JC;)
I am glad to hear that. I was doubting you for a while~

Nitro Express
08-05-2011, 12:42 AM
The god of the bible is a schitzophrenic. He is wrathful, jealous, cruel in the old testament and then forgiving and loving in the new testament. Clearly the priests were trying to scare the living shit out of superstitious people so they could make them do what the priest wanted them to do. Nothing has changed. Organized religion is the practice of exploiting the natural fear of death.

kwame k
08-05-2011, 12:44 AM
Organized religion is the practice of exploiting the natural fear of death.

Truer words, bro:beers8:

Seshmeister
08-05-2011, 07:13 AM
Well, actually the daughters got him drunk, and then fucked him when he passed out. But it's incest all the same, and a hell of an example of "morality" when you consider the very same story is used as an explanation of how "God hates fags".

It is not possible to be a fuckee rather than a fucker when it's your daughters.