An apology to Chris Brown

[Seshmeister]

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Wow something good on Fox News...

[Unchainme]

Red Eye is some good shit.

Greg Gutfield is pretty funny and very smart. Seems too good to be on Fox News.

Hard to explain what it's like..kinda like "Real Time" with Bill Maher, except..Gutfield is a shit ton more likeable.

[Diamondjimi]

Nice ownage!

[binnie]

I'd hit Rihanna.

Just sayin'..........

[binnie]

The problem with Chris Brown is that he seems remarkably unrepentant...............

[chefcraig]

The problem with Chris Brown is that he seems remarkably untalented...

Fixed that for ya, bin.

[binnie]

Well, that too.

[Unchainme]

I'd hit Rihanna.

Just sayin'..........

Rihanna can't sing a lick.

In comparision to her contemporary Beyounce who has some talent in the field (and is wasting it on singing shitty pop songs)

How people like Rihanna make it in the music industry is beyound me. She's only "meh" on the level of attractiveness as well.

Chris Brown is pretty much Usher without the talent.

[binnie]

I couldn't give a shit about her music, to be honest. But then, it's not aimed at me or you is it?

That kind of music is there so people can dance around in a club. Nothing more, nothing less.

Expecting it to be anything else is like asking Die Hard to be Citizen Kane - they're both films, but one is a pure piece of entertainment and the other is art.

[binnie]

Chris Brown is pretty much Usher without the talent.

That's pretty much spot on.

[Unchainme]

I couldn't give a shit about her music, to be honest. But then, it's not aimed at me or you is it?

That kind of music is there so people can dance around in a club. Nothing more, nothing less.

Expecting it to be anything else is like asking Die Hard to be Citizen Kane - they're both films, but one is a pure piece of entertainment and the other is art.

"Hans...bubby....I'm your white knight!"

I don't even consider it "Good" club music. I mean, my brother is a "techno/dance" music snob and looks down upon it from a technical standpoint.

No, Rihanna isn't even in the same league of Die Hard, it's more like the shitty remake of a decent movie that somehow is being pushed with someone like Russell Brand as the main protagonist in it.

[binnie]

You know what I mean, though: asking for depth from that kind of music is asking it to do something it's not trying to do.

It's music for people who don't really care about music to dance around to, not a comment on the human condition.

A lot of people like music in a very disposable manner, which is fine. It reminds me of the conversations/arguments I used to have with people at school when I tried to get them into Pantera: 'you can't dance to this'. As though that's what they were trying to do? It used to really piss me off, but these days I get that people like lots of different types of music for lots of different reasons (it comes from working in a record store and being baffled at the rise of Coldplay.....) So now when I turn on MTV and react with 'this just doesn't move me in any way' I understand that it's not trying to - it's just a trend for someone to latch on to.

It is baffling, though. If someone has a penchant for R'N'B, why not Alicia Keys over Rihanna? Why not the old Motown records, which were essentially pop songs, but pop songs from real experiences? Who knows.....

[Unchainme]

Can I insert this here for a rant?

In terms of overrating pop stars this day, one recently that's gotten on my nerves is a recent girl by the name of Adele hailing out of England, that's pretty much like the more bland and vanilla version of Amy Winehouse. Suddenly I am hearing ever critic under the sun hype her up as some really great innovative new thing, a "breathe of fresh air", how it's great she's holding the top spot on the charts over all the "Club hit" artists out there.

I don't see it. I just don't. The music doesn't move me in one way or the other, it doesn't sound fresh to me, it sounds like every other sort of "Maroon 5" like adult contemporary that gets shoved down my throat while I'm waiting for a song to come on one of the Mix stations that maybe a fun 80's pop song. Tired, dull lifeless music that's pretty much designed to be played in the dentist office while you're looking over old sports illustrateds to keep yourself distracted from the tutorials running on the one damn tv in the office.

But to continue on with point, she's fucking boring as hell, and I don't understand the push on her.

[binnie]

Man, I think you're missing something with Adelle (although I can sort of see where you're going with the 'toned down Amy Winehouse' analogy).

Although it's not the sort of music that I would choose to listen to, I don't think we can equate her with the Maroon 5's and Colplays of this world. There is some real soul to her voice, and those songs come from somewhere inside her. She writes those tunes, she's not given them by some record label. It sort of reminds me of the first Nora Jones album - not my thing at all, but I'd never equate it with the soulless crap that usually clogs up the charts. Neither of those artists are edgy or dangerous (nor are they trying to be), but at their best they do channel some considerable emotions (and I'd also say that some of the arrangements in those Adelle tunes are cleverly done).

It's interesting you bring her up though because I was thinking about this thread today and musing on how Adele might be the one recent artist to top the charts that isn't some record company creation......weird how we can have such different reactions.

[Seshmeister]

Expecting it to be anything else is like asking Die Hard to be Citizen Kane - they're both films, but one is a pure piece of entertainment and the other is art.

I don't like the analogy because Die Hard is a perfect film of it's genre, a classic.

She's more like Die Hard 4.