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Mr Walker
09-08-2011, 12:55 PM
THE ROLLING STONES - Some Girls Live In Texas '78 Available On DVD And Blue-Ray On November 21st
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 at 10:42:25 EST
Eagle Rock Entertainment have announced the DVD and Blu-Ray release of THE ROLLING STONES Some Girls Live In Texas '78. Available for the first time ever on November 21Sst, Some Girls Live In Texas '78 features Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Ronnie Wood and Bill Wyman live in concert during the 1978 US tour which followed the release of their groundbreaking album, Some Girls.
Some Girls Live In Texas '78 comes hot on the heels of the huge success of 2010's Stones In Exile and Ladies & Gentlemen and marks the next stage in the Eagle Vision / Rolling Stones enterprise. Some Girls Live In Texas '78 will be available on four different formats: DVD, Blu-Ray, plus special edition DVD + CD and Blu-Ray + CD digipack presentations including a reproduction tour program. Bonus features on all formats will include a new interview with Mick Jagger. Worldwide theatrical distribution deals will be announced soon.
Capturing The Rolling Stones at their live best, and fully restored to the highest level of picture and sound quality, Some Girls Live In Texas '78 was filmed at the Will Rogers Memorial Center in Forth Worth, Texas on July 18th, 1978 on what many fans consider to be one of the band's greatest tours. This was due to the band's 'back to basics' approach both musically and visually, as the shows were stripped back compared to previous tours, harnessing the new punk rock attitude of the late 70s.
Showcasing many songs from the Some Girls album, celebrated for being the Rolling Stones' most direct and diverse collection of music, and which by the time the band arrived in Texas, had gone to the top of the US charts, this concert demonstrates the sheer force and raw energy of The Rolling Stones live on stage.
Originally shot on 16mm film, the concert footage has been carefully restored with the sound remixed and remastered by Bob Clearmountain from the original multi track tapes.
Tracklisting:
'Let It Rock'
'All Down The Line'
'Honky Tonk Women'
'Star Star'
'When The Whip Comes Down'
'Beast Of Burden'
'Miss You'
'Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)'
'Shattered'
'Respectable'
'Far Away Eyes'
'Love In Vain'
'Tumbling Dice'
'Happy'
'Sweet Little Sixteen'
'Brown Sugar'
'Jumpin' Jack Flash'
indeedido
09-08-2011, 01:18 PM
This should be pretty cool
Oh FUCK yeah!!
I figured they probably had this entire show on film somewhere, but only the first 6 songs have ever been seen at all. I think they were broadcast live in Texas at the time, and have been bootlegged since.
The complete audio of this show has been well circulated in bootleg land, of course, in the form of a professionally recorded King Biscuit Radio Show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z72wCH5ZZy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM3x25pYVXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGhUBdRPuMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxYUTySuJd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZU1DNppTp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5dp48jHPjw
I wonder if this means there's an expanded "Some Girls" remaster in the works, similar to how "Ladies & Gentlemen" was finally released, just after the Exile reboot. I'd definitely like to hear some of the master takes of those songs in decent sound quality. I understand why they had to chop 'em up to make a 40 minute record back in 1978, but there ain't no excuse now not to release the whole goddamn songs.
chefcraig
09-08-2011, 03:02 PM
I figured they probably had this entire show on film somewhere, but only the first 6 songs have ever been seen at all. I think they were broadcast live in Texas at the time, and have been bootlegged since.
The complete audio of this show has been well circulated in bootleg land, of course, in the form of a professionally recorded King Biscuit Radio Show.
The pisser is, the Stones are sitting on literally metric tons of archival footage, yet little (if any) of it has ever seen release. A boatload of fragments showed up in the 25 X 5: The Continuing Adventures of the Rolling Stones VHS release from around 1990 or so, and even that collection hasn't appeared in DVD form yet. Hopefully, Jagger's well known disavowal of his past will fade somewhat as he enters his seventies.
:doh:
Here's the cover art, right from the Stones' website......
http://cdn.umg3.net/rollingstones/files/imagecache/news_images/RS_Some_Girls_Poster_lowres.jpg
Also there is this brief message: "Some Girls: The Rolling Stones - Live in Texas" Screening in cinemas worldwide from 4 October 2011 – more details coming soon........
I wonder if this is going to be another "one night only" event like the screening of "Ladies & Gentlemen" was?
Hardrock69
09-10-2011, 02:51 AM
I would love to see this.....in the absence of the announcement of the invention of the time machine, lol.....
I mean, not a huge Stones fan, have seen them 2wice, don't regret it for a second.....but me wants this....
Hardrock69
09-10-2011, 03:05 AM
Man that is one bizarre looking poster....
Terry
09-10-2011, 08:09 PM
Pretty cool that they managed to play most of the Some Girls album during the set.
Had always wondered why there seemed to be little mention of the Stones Some Girls tour...even as chef mentioned regarding the 25x5 doc, there are only brief snippets of concert footage from the various live eras, and even THAT documentary didn't have any 1978 footage...I think the only live stuff of the band from that period I've even seen is their Saturday Night Live appearance.
I'll certainly scoop up the dvd when it comes out. Let's Spend The Night Together was finally released to dvd not too long ago, and there were pro-shot concerts of the 1975/76 tour filmed as well, so maybe that stuff will come out soon on an official release. I mean, this stuff can be hunted down and purchased from bootleggers online without too much effort, but the bootlegged stuff is never as good as an official release with the blessings of the band and some real money put into restoring the material. The official results usually look and sound better, and are much cheaper than bootlegs (I can't be bothered going through the effort to find a decent person who just wants to do straight-up trades for shows with no cash involved, mostly because I either have nothing on their want lists that they don't already have, or they insist on trading shows that are recorded on premium dvd-r's made out of 14k gold) Plus, it was shot on proper film as well.
Um, Van Halen, what the fuck? If the Strolling Bones can put this type of shit out, clearly it's not beneath you to get your CVH live video house in order. It's not like you haven't had enough time on your hands since the last your ended over three years ago (I don't give a fuck how busy you've been 'in the studio').
That was taken from an actual 1978 tour poster, by the way.
Interesting that 7 tracks from Some Girls were played live at this show. A 8th track, "Lies" was played at other shows on the tour.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lbbbUKfvU
...dunno know if there's any video of them doing that one, but if there is, it would make a great bonus track.
Two remaining tracks from the album were never performed on this tour at all. Not sure why Keith chose to sing "Happy" rather than "Before They Make Me Run" (He was only singing one song a show in those days) since it was a damn great song, and rather timely, given his then recent trip to the rehab clinic, and barely avoided prison sentence. He would perform that one a year later on the New Barbarians tour, of course.
As for the song "Some Girls" itself, that one never made it to the stage until the late 1990's, when the Stones put up an internet "request" page before each show and let the audience choose a song that wasn't in the regular set list.
The ironic thing about the "Some Girls" album, is that it should have been as much of a cheesy relic of the times as "Their Satanic Majesties Request" if you look at it on paper. You had a dance hit for the Saturday Night Fever fans, a country song for the Urban Cowboy fans, and pretty much the rest of it designed to appeal to the punk rockers who had written the Stones off as "dinosaurs" a year earlier (See "1977" by The Clash).
But somehow it just worked. Somehow it turned into one of the best goddamn records The Rolling Stones ever made. Still THE best, in my opinion, though your mileage may vary. Chalk it up to the band firing on all five cylinders for a change. Keith out of rehab, Woody on board for real, Mick lyrically inspired by his divorce from Bianca, whatever it was, it was an energy that kicked some ass in the studio. In reality, they probably recorded 50 or so songs in those sessions. Some of them turned up on later albums, and some never got completed at all, but are still interesting listening on the boots.
ODShowtime
09-11-2011, 08:13 AM
This is good news, and since the 72 show is already out, I don't have to bitch about why they put this one out instead. It ain't their best period, and Some Girls is definitely NOT their best album, but it is a cool period and it will be as fun to watch as it has been to listen to all these years from the FM tapes.
Did they film any Europe 73 shows?
Still THE best, in my opinion, though your mileage may vary.
Ever hear Sticky Fingers? Come on it's not even debatable. Bitch by itself as a single is better than all of Some Girls.
Terry
09-11-2011, 08:44 PM
I'd say that Some Girls is probably their best start-to-finish record since Exile, and really one of the last albums they made that didn't have more filler vs. decent tracks on it.
Like, I can listen to Some Girls from beginning to end. Can pretty much do the same for Emotional Rescue if I'm in the mood. Not a problem doing the same for Tattoo You. After Tattoo You, I can't be bothered, because starting with Undercover on there were just too many substandard tunes on each release. It's like, one or two good tracks, one or two decent tracks, then varying cuts of average to poor rubbish.
diamondD
09-13-2011, 10:11 PM
Some Girls may not be their best album for some, but it's still the most fun album to listen to for me. I'm loving all of this old stuff the Stones are putting out on blu-ray and from the cd vault.
And they need to get that 25x5 documentary out soon even if it's just dvd, because I can't hardly stand to look at old VHS tapes any more! Burning it to dvd myself is hardly an improvement.
I wonder if this means there's an expanded "Some Girls" remaster in the works, similar to how "Ladies & Gentlemen" was finally released, just after the Exile reboot. I'd definitely like to hear some of the master takes of those songs in decent sound quality. I understand why they had to chop 'em up to make a 40 minute record back in 1978, but there ain't no excuse now not to release the whole goddamn songs.
I already read an article in which it was stated that Jagger was listening to and compiling some outtakes from the Paris sessions from '77 and '78. I have a Stones book which discussions all of their sessions and there were literally something like 90 songs put to tape during the SOME GIRLS and EMOTIONAL RESCUE sessions. They did dig up a few of those for B-sides and EMOTIONAL RESCUE is half just leftovers from SOME GIRLS...and as most Stones fans know, TATTOO YOU is made up mostly of SOME GIRLS and EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtakes plus a few BLACK AND BLUE and GOAT'S HEAD SOUP outtakes thrown in. But there are still many, many, many leftovers from those albums in the can. I even compiled my own album of them from bootlegs...pristine-quality outtakes. Check out CLAUDINE...an amazing fast blues left off EMOTIONAL RESCUE.
This set is coming.
As for the Blu-Ray, I'm pretty psyched. They did a good job with the STONES IN EXILE documentary, and the LADIES AND GENTLEMEN Blu-Ray was even better. Wife and I are going to see this in theaters during it's one-night showing in November.
diamondD
09-14-2011, 12:52 PM
http://http://www.rollingstones.com/news/some-girls-be-released-november (http://www.rollingstones.com/news/some-girls-be-released-november)
And just like that, news of the reissue of Some Girls with extra tracks like the Exile set hits today
chefcraig
09-14-2011, 01:30 PM
It will be interesting to see the final track listing (all of the current sources are quoting the official press release verbatim, which sadly does not include one). Mick Jagger casually remarked about finishing off the bonus tracks (ala the "Exile" release) in a short piece at Gibson.com. (http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/rolling-stones-0912-2011/)
Hmm.... I see three CD's in the expanded edition, but no mention of what exactly is on them. If it was me, I'd give one full disc to the full master versions of all the songs on the album. Most of these songs were 7 - 9 minutes in the original length, which is why Bob Clearmountain had to slice them up for a 40 minute vinyl album, but it's time to let the whole album be heard. But like I said, that's what I would do. Sadly, it's probably not what Mick will do.
Obviously, some outtakes are finally being dragged out of the vault officially. Will Claudine finally get a legit release?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8IOKKG_PAQ
I wonder if Mick's got the balls to put this drunken mess out? :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM2lYtdt_VA
Far less likely would be something like the original version of "Hang Fire" which was about three times longer than the one released in 1981
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbDV-S8wT4M
Meanwhile, back to the DVD, here's a very brief trailer I just stumbled across on You Tube.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76WNCc3nhlY
I wonder if 68 year old Mick will try to overdub a new vocal track on top of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsMj6ZNZ9m8
Great links, FORD.
There's a plethora of great stuff in the vaults from this period. Also a great pop song that could use some polishing called I NEED YOU.
Damn...another fine reissue in a season loaded with amazing reissues. Too much shit to buy!
"I Need You" had a lot of potential at the time, but I'm not so sure it would work with Keith's voice NOW.
Also, I'm not so sure that one is really a Some Girls outtake. If you really listen, particularly to what Bill & Charlie are doing, it's possible that this was actually an early version of "Hand of Fate" from the Black and Blue album. Sadly, I can't find this one currently on YouTube, so those of you who haven't heard the boots will have to play this in your heads.
Maybe someday, somebody will publish an extensive documentation of all the Rolling Stones recording sessions, like Mark Lewisohn did with The Beatles.
I always thought this tune had potential, if Mick could have come up with some lyrics for it......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVrxI1om6Z4
I can almost guarantee that Mick is gonna clean this one up and overdub it. Hell, I like it as it is.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khg6Y93nFjU
...though of course, it would be extremely ironic to use the title "No Spare Parts" on a release made up of..... spare parts :biggrin:
"I Need You" had a lot of potential at the time, but I'm not so sure it would work with Keith's voice NOW.
Also, I'm not so sure that one is really a Some Girls outtake. If you really listen, particularly to what Bill & Charlie are doing, it's possible that this was actually an early version of "Hand of Fate" from the Black and Blue album. Sadly, I can't find this one currently on YouTube, so those of you who haven't heard the boots will have to play this in your heads.
Maybe someday, somebody will publish an extensive documentation of all the Rolling Stones recording sessions, like Mark Lewisohn did with The Beatles.
I have a great book called ROLLING STONES COMPLETE RECORDING SESSIONS. It's pretty extensive and talks about what happened to many songs...just looking at their lists, it seems the band pretty typically recorded and left off more than they used. I NEED YOU [i]does[/] sound like HAND OF FATE (never thought of that before) but it was recorded in '78, according to this book (but never really completed).
I also really like the EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtake/b-side EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO GOLD.
Other key outtakes from this period I really hope surface (though it's hard to say if they'll include '79 outtakes too...they should make it a set of SOME GIRLS and EMOTIONAL RESCUE, which I still feel is an under-rated album):
- SO YOUNG (later released as a b-side...like 15 years later)
- I THINK I'M GOING MAD
- WE HAD IT ALL
- LET'S GO STEADY
Others too. These are in very good quality in bootleg, but there are others in very crap quality on bootlegs...but good songs.
Damn, I didn't know they had a Stones book out like that. Gonna have to look for that one!
Funny thing about "We Had It All" and "Let's Go Steady".... those didn't make either "Some Girls" or "Emotional Rescue", but Keith ended up playing them both live anyway...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAzaGfX82gs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzMpHL_WnCo
Keith and Woody did an interview for Creem magazine in 1979 while in the middle of the Barbarians tour, and Keef mentions in there that he's got a "solo album" in the works that he would finish when that tour was done. Obviously no such album ever was released, but if I had to guess the contents, I'd say it would have had those two songs on it, along with the Toronto demos he recorded in 1977 while under "house arrest" on the heroin charges. And of course "The Harder They Come" and "Run Run Rudolph", the two tracks that actually did get an official release as a single.
Why did this album never see the light of day? I'm guessing Mick probably complained about a bunch of songs cut in Stones sessions, with Keef, Woody, and Charlie playing on them (possibly Bill Wyman on some of them, and Ian Stewart as well) being released as a "Keef solo album"
chefcraig
09-14-2011, 09:43 PM
I have a great book called ROLLING STONES COMPLETE RECORDING SESSIONS. It's pretty extensive and talks about what happened to many songs...
Damn, I didn't know they had a Stones book out like that. Gonna have to look for that one!
On a related note, I have one called The Beatles Recording Sessions - The Official Abbey Road Studio Session Notes (http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Recording-Sessions-Official-1962-1970/dp/0517581825) by Mark Lewison that was published sometime in 1988, and it's damned near indispensable for me.
Keith and Woody did an interview for Creem magazine in 1979 while in the middle of the Barbarians tour, and Keef mentions in there that he's got a "solo album" in the works that he would finish when that tour was done. Obviously no such album ever was released, but if I had to guess the contents, I'd say it would have had those two songs on it, along with the Toronto demos he recorded in 1977 while under "house arrest" on the heroin charges. And of course "The Harder They Come" and "Run Run Rudolph", the two tracks that actually did get an official release as a single.
Why did this album never see the light of day? I'm guessing Mick probably complained about a bunch of songs cut in Stones sessions, with Keef, Woody, and Charlie playing on them (possibly Bill Wyman on some of them, and Ian Stewart as well) being released as a "Keef solo album"
I recall that interview, I'm pretty sure it was around the time Wood put out the Gimme Some Neck album that could instantly be found at Peaches in the cut-out bin for $1.99. There are a handful of bootlegs out there in the ether containing all (or nearly all) of the so-called "Keith Toronto Sessions", which feature Richards quite effectively covering some relatively surprising material. There are also some tracks that were recorded in 1981 in Massachusetts, and a third series of tracks that include a version of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" (with an unmistakable Bobby Keyes on sax). In order to complicate things further, all three sessions have been mashed together over the years by clueless bootleggers with no sense of propriety, so no liner dates are ever included to sort out just what came from where.
On a related note, I have one called The Beatles Recording Sessions - The Official Abbey Road Studio Session Notes (http://www.amazon.com/Beatles-Recording-Sessions-Official-1962-1970/dp/0517581825) by Mark Lewison that was published sometime in 1988, and it's damned near indispensable for me.
I've read through this thing many times. One of my favorite music books. In fact, I love books that go through studio or live histories (Hendrix's SESSIONS book is a classic and has a great new update).
twonabomber
09-15-2011, 08:42 AM
but will they leave in the "black girls just want to get fucked all night" part?
but will they leave in the "black girls just want to get fucked all night" part?
They damn well better! That line cost me my first copy of Some Girls. My mom heard it, and immediately grabbed the record off the turntable and smashed the Hell out of it. :(
But after scrubbing the verse completely from the "Shine A Light" movie, and after what they did to "Starfucker" on the Goats Head Soup remaster, I'll admit I'm worried they might cave to corporate pressure again.
For fucks sake, the album is 34 years old. Any alterations now should be additions, not subtractions (i.e. the COMPLETE version of the song "Some Girls")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc97Pi4TsNE
They damn well better! That line cost me my first copy of Some Girls. My mom heard it, and immediately grabbed the record off the turntable and smashed the Hell out of it. :(
I'm sorry, but that's fucking hilarious!! ;)
Yeah, I can laugh about it now, but it didn't seem very funny at the time. Worse yet, it was an original pressing of the album, with the cover that was quickly banned for "legal reasons".
Jesus Christ
09-16-2011, 12:44 AM
Always thought this one just might work with a little work on the lyrics.... Country song about a girl New York City, which is a bit odd, but what the Hell.......
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Jesus Christ
09-16-2011, 12:45 AM
Yes, we get bootlegs in Heaven. Verily, we do not allow them to be sold though, because that would be stealing. :jesuslol:
No way in Hell this gets included in the box, but just in case some of you never heard it before (Not You JC, I know You hear everything) here's the full 11:42 original recording of "Miss You" (minus vocal overdubs and the sax & harp bits)
Here's one of those Some Girls leftovers that ended up being used later. Much later actually (compare it to "Don't Stop" from 40 Licks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JQDdUwAPo
Still can't believe they never put this one out......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8lKEMzyhFs
Despite the mislabeled title here, this "slightly punkier" rendition of Summer Romance actually came from the Some Girls sessions. The Stones also rehearsed this one for their Saturday Night Live appearance in October 78, but it didn't make the final performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Hrt2xCgDA
And I must say that it would be nothing short of a CRIME if Some Girls is remastered for the 4th or 5th time (or whatever it is) without the inclusion of the full version of "Beast of Burden" which was officially released only ONCE, as part of the 1978 8 track tape version....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ljiwe-xzSs
...that 8 track was actually a bit of a crap shoot.... Better versions of "Beast of Burden" and "Miss You" than the vinyl, but horrible edited versions of "Shattered" and "Far Away Eyes". Needless to say the latter two do NOT to be released again.
**Update - 10/18/2011** - Track List for Disc 2 of Some Girls Remaster (from the Rolling Stones website)
Disc 2
1. Claudine
2. So Young
3. Do You Think I Really Care
4. When You’re Gone
5. No Spare Parts
6. Don’t Be A Stranger
7. We Had It All
8. Tallahassee Lassie
9. I Love You Too Much
10. Keep Up Blues
11. You Win Again
12. Petrol Blues
Most of these look exactly like the ones I expected to see, though I have to admit I'm surprised that "You Win Again" made the cut - both because it's a cover AND because of the drunken performance. And Mick, goddamn it, you better not have overdubbed THAT vocal!
I assume "Petrol Blues" is the same thing as "Petrol Gang", though I wouldn't be surprised if Mick updated that one to fit the more recent fake "energy crisis", and not the one that was going on at the time. Kinda surprised to see "So Young", since it was re-recorded as a B side in the Voodoo Lounge era.
"When You're Gone", "Don't Be A Stranger" and "Keep Up Blues" are titles I don't recognize, so these must be tracks that were completely instrumental on the original tapes and never had official titles.
Still no word on what the third disc in the package is........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQKQ5-ODmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1joDoUtV-ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1H67o-h3s
ThrillsNSpills
10-18-2011, 05:35 PM
http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=96910
Shattered SNL
Kristy
10-20-2011, 12:09 AM
This is good news. But you know Jagger will at least want $35 for the CD alone.
ashstralia
10-20-2011, 07:40 AM
kristy, you're back! i missed you so much i made a thread about you.
OK... here we go kids..... first of the "new" tracks leaked......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZ2CCVlXuE
Good job Mick. While it's obviously a 68 year old Mick singing, the spirit of the original 1977 demo is still very much there (at least in my humble opinion, as someone who has been listening to this song for years)
chefcraig
10-26-2011, 03:08 PM
Here is "Do You Think I Really Care."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dhojvnrY3Q
"You Win Again" is spectacularly awful. I don't know how they could fix this short of starting over from scratch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY66vR9JA_Q&feature=related
They don't need to touch that one. It's a Hank Williams song, for fucks sake. It's supposed to sound like you're drunk and miserable! :bottle:
Kinda curious though with all the material available that Jagger went for so many country songs to reboot an album that was essentially "punk rock" on at least 7 of the original 10 songs.
Keith's contribution to the "bonus" tracks. (which I couldn't find earlier for some reason) They don't need to "fix" this one either.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfKk_8L4e9s
Satan
11-01-2011, 05:19 PM
Another piece of the live DVD here.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rTb2pvtT7A
Satan
11-02-2011, 11:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83lcqtGviOA
chefcraig
11-04-2011, 06:47 PM
Here is a brief clip of the contents. And that third disc? Supposedly it's a DVD (http://theseconddisc.com/2011/10/20/shattered-again-rolling-stones-unveil-complete-some-girls-track-listing-for-box-set-deluxe-edition/).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Yvat4PyE4Vo
I'm sure the DVD will probably serve the same purpose as the DVD in the Exile remaster did - which was essentially advertising for the Concert video released at the same time. Maybe this one might also throw in an ad for the Ed Sullivan compilation of all the Stones appearances, but that was a full decade before Some Girls, so it would look a little out of place. Also, I don't think the Stones themselves are in control of that release, since similar Sullivan compilations are being released featuring other artists.
Buying the 2-disc for this one. The DVD is apparently just a few promo clips. I could care less about that. I could care less about the vinyl and the book as well. Take up too much shelf space. In fact, I could also care less about another version of the actual album. I have the '94 remaster and it sounds awesome. I'll buy the 2-disc to get the group of new songs (I'm excited for those), though I suppose I could wait and just get a single disc with the new songs (they eventually released one of those for the EXILE new songs and I was kicking myself for not just waiting for that since I didn't need another copy of EXILE, and an inferior one at that). I'm sick of these $130 box sets of a single album offering very little. I did get the ACHTUNG BABY one (new songs, DVD, unreleased versions) and I did get the FLOYD ones (awesome to have WISH YOU WERE HERE in a Blu-Ray surround mix), and I will get the SMILE box set...super-excited for this. But the SOME GIRLS one seems to me pretty much a complete rip-off, considering it doesn't even include the Blu-Ray of the Texas concert. You have to buy that separately.
The Rolling Stones: that 50-year itch…
Elizabeth Day
The Observer, Saturday 12 November 2011
As the Rolling Stones' pivotal 1978 album Some Girls is reissued, Messrs Jagger, Richards, Wood and Watts talk about sex, drugs and survival – and the chance of a celebration tour
Ronnie Wood, wizen-faced survivor of rock'n'roll excess, is sipping daintily on a glass of coconut water. "Love it, 100%," he says, his leg jiggling with enthusiasm so that the ice cubes in the white liquid clink as he talks. "Little taste of holiday, right there." Wood laughs throatily. "I drink so much coffee, this helps balance me out."
When a Rolling Stone admits that coffee is his greatest vice, you know times have changed. During his time as guitarist for the band, Wood estimates he's burned through £20m on drugs and alcohol. His bandmates didn't think this was particularly exceptional. Keith Richards, after all, used to indulge in speedballs of cocaine and heroin with such regularity that he cheerily referred to the toxic cocktail as "the breakfast of champions".
But nowadays things are rather different. The Stones have all grown up – Wood, at 64, is the youngest in the band; drummer Charlie Watts the eldest at 70 – and, despite hovering perilously around retirement age, they are still working. This month sees the release of a re-mastered version of their hit 1978 album Some Girls, including new tracks unearthed from the archives by producer Don Was. The expanded album will also feature a previously unseen Helmut Newton photo session from the time, depicting the band in a series of moody rock'n'roll poses – all cheekbones and pouty insouciance.
Today, when I meet Wood in the upholstered plushness of a central London hotel, he looks essentially the same as he did three decades ago – a bit more weather-beaten, perhaps, but still sporting an identical Worzel Gummidge hairstyle and spray-on skinny jeans that seem to have been beamed in directly from the 1970s. Does it feel surreal looking back to those photographs now?
"Yeah," he says. "It doesn't seem like it's been all those years. What is it, 30?"
Thirty-three.
He gapes in mock horror. "The 80s only seem like yesterday to me. The 90s went so fast. Before you know it, time has flown by."
In their time as the world's most famous rock band, the Rolling Stones have sold more than 200m albums and released eight number one singles. When they took to the road to promote their 2005 A Bigger Bang album, it became the highest-grossing tour of all time (since bettered by U2's 360˚ tour of 2009-11) – at one concert alone, on Copacabana beach, 1.5 million people turned up to watch them live.
As a band, they have swaggered their way through the decades: a multi-headed, hard-partying, hard-living, rock'n'roll beast that hoovered up drugs, bedded glamorous women and all the while managed to produce some of the finest popular music of the 20th century, including "Wild Horses", "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Gimme Shelter", "Brown Sugar", "Satisfaction", "Paint it Black" and "Sympathy for the Devil". And they're still going.
"In a way, they are the template for every rock band that's come along in the last 40 years," says Philip Norman, the author of a biography of the Rolling Stones and one of Mick Jagger, which is coming out next year. "It seems very weird they've lasted so long because for years and years, all through the 60s, they were the most unstable of any band out there. I think their longevity is due to this incredible image that was given to them, of being wicked, of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. It's extraordinary that it's stuck… These men are now getting on for 70 and they're still exciting for terribly young kids. They are the first old white musicians ever to be cool."
But arguably the Stones' greatest achievement is the simple fact of their survival. Next year, the band marks its 50th anniversary, a feat of longevity that seems all the more remarkable in the face of their seemingly hell-bent desire to kill themselves. Keith Richards, for one, only gave up cocaine in 2006 after falling out of a tree in Fiji and undergoing surgery for a blood clot on his brain. When I speak to him over the phone from his home in Los Angeles, the 67-year-old is sanguine about cleaning up his act.
"Everybody's got to grow up eventually," Richards says in a dry voice that sounds oddly like Bill Nighy's impersonation of an ageing rock star in the film Love Actually. "All of my stuff, I considered it all an experiment that went on too long." Does he miss the drugs? "No, darling. Once you've sniffed it, you've sniffed it."
At 68, Mick Jagger, to whom I also speak over the phone, is less forthcoming. Does he have any regrets? "You're not honestly asking that question, are you?" he says, snorting. "I can't possibly answer that."
Back in the hotel room, drinking his coconut water, Wood gives an impish grin when I ask if he feels like a survivor. "Yeah, definitely," he says, nodding his head vigorously. "Yeah, I've seen all the people dropping like flies over the years and it makes me realise how lucky I am."
The re-release of Some Girls is especially poignant for Wood because the album marked the first time he was officially recognised as a member of the band – "I felt I was finally home," he says. Although the Rolling Stones were formed in 1962 by Jagger and Richards (who were at primary school together), they have, like a particularly prolonged game of consequences, undergone a series of personnel changes over the years. Guitarist Brian Jones, one of the original lineup, drowned in his swimming pool in 1969. Mick Taylor took his place, before eventually being replaced by Wood, while bassist Bill Wyman retired from the Stones in 1992.
Before the release of Some Girls, the band was undergoing something of an identity crisis. The freewheeling optimism of the 1960s had given way to the drug-addled reality of the 1970s and they were battered and bruised from 16 years on the road. There had been the notorious Redlands bust in 1967, after which Jagger and Richards had been jailed for possession of cannabis and amphetamines, famously prompting William Rees-Mogg to ask: "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" in a Times editorial. Two years later, during a Stones performance at a rock concert in Altamont, California, an 18-year-old fan was murdered by a group of Hell's Angels.
Then, just as the band were about to start recording in early 1977, Richards was arrested for heroin possession in Toronto, where the Stones had been touring, leading to the very real possibility that he might be sent to jail for years and the album would never be made.
"Oh yeah, I was under several indictments dotted all over the globe," says Richards with customary laconicism when reminded of this. "But that was just my day-to-day life."
When I meet Charlie Watts, he remembers it as being a "pretty serious" situation. To complicate matters, Wood was simultaneously having an affair with Margaret Trudeau, wife of the then Canadian prime minister. "It was a bit worrying," says Watts, a thoughtful wrinkle appearing on his brow.
In the end, Richards got away with a light sentence in return for promising to perform a charity show for the Canadian National Institute of the Blind (which took place in 1979). Partly in celebration at this second lease of life and newfound charitable impulse, Richards reinstated the "s" at the end of his surname, which had disappeared after a former manager deemed it wasn't rock'n'roll enough.
"I just thought, you know, I'm not Cliff Richard, and that's for sure," says Richards with a guttural laugh. Down the crackly phone line, it sounds like sandpaper being scraped against a pebbledash wall.
With Richards a free man once more, the band traipsed off in varying states of health and sobriety to Paris to record the album in a small studio in Boulogne-Billancourt. According to Jagger, the fact that they were all living and working together over a sustained period meant that "one of the good things about the record is this unity – it was all done in Paris in a relatively short space of time. There were a lot of Keith problems but once we were in there, it was pretty concentrated."
There was also a sense in which the Rolling Stones wanted to prove they were still relevant. At the time, their brand of rhythm-and-blues soul music was in danger of seeming outdated in comparison with the raw, stripped-back anger of punk or the frenetic energy of disco.
"The punks had given us a kick up the ass," says Richards. "Or let's say 'arse' as it's England. It felt like we'd been sitting on our laurels for a couple of years. There'd been the Sex Pistols, the punk movement. We wanted to strip the band down so there weren't a lot of horns or extra musicians… We decided to keep it strictly guitar."
The result was a series of songs marked by thumping guitar riffs and a moody dance beat, the most famous of which – "Miss You" – reached number one in America. The album went six times platinum in the US and garnered an extremely positive critical response.
In fact, the Some Girls tour in 1978 produced some of the most electrifying live performances of the Stones' careers – a DVD featuring unseen footage of the band playing a tour date in Fort Worth, Texas, will be released later this month and shows Jagger at the top of his game, strutting across the stage like a demented cockerel.
"I started off thinking about what being a performer meant when I was about 16," says Jagger when I ask him about the tour. "I hope I'm not being immodest, but I realised I would go out and do it, and the more people seemed to like it the more I seemed to do stupid things and dance. You sort of realise that's your fate and you develop it."
Does he think he's a good dancer?
"Not really. I do my best but really it's about song interpretation, being the character of the song…It's about keeping the audience enthused, keeping them involved. They don't come to see a dancer par excellence."
The album had its quieter moments too, most in evidence on the bluesy "Beast of Burden". Richards has, in the past, said he wrote the track as an apologetic acknowledgement of all the difficulties his drug problems had caused Mick Jagger.
"Actually, if anything, I was trying to say sorry to Mick for passing on the weight of running this band," Richards says now. "We were at the stage where we were getting bigger. The whole music business was getting bigger, and I was basically trying to say to Mick: 'You don't have to do it on your own.'"
Did Jagger listen? Richards erupts. "No. He very rarely does. That's why I love him."
Apart from the music, the partying and the trail of beautiful women, perhaps the most fundamental reason for the enduring public fascination with the Rolling Stones is the friction surrounding its central creative partnership. Jagger and Richards seem forever locked in an epic battle between love and hate, admiration and mistrust, that has twisted and turned throughout the last half century like the rock'n'roll equivalent of the naked wrestling scene in Women in Love.
Is it, I ask Richards, a bit like working with your brother? "No, it's like working with Maria Callas," he shoots back. "The diva is right and we've got to try and put music together without annoying the diva. If the diva gets too annoyed, then I get pissed off. Do you think when we get together we're all like happy families? Forget about it. We've been fighting cats and dogs all our career.
"We're like brothers in that sometimes we love each other and sometimes we hate each other and sometimes we don't even care. I've been playing guitar, watching that bum [dance in front of me] for years."
Relations between the two, always fractious, probably weren't helped by the publication last year of Richards's rollicking autobiography, Life, in which he claimed – among other things – that Jagger was "unbearable" and in possession of "a tiny todger… he's got an enormous pair of balls – but it doesn't quite fill the gap".
I have been told by the PR that I'm not allowed to ask about "big and small willies", which is the only time genitalia size has been listed as a verboten topic in any interview I've ever done. Still, how are things with Mick now?
"Oh fine," says Richards. "We're OK."
"We don't squabble very much to be honest," Jagger says.
I don't have the balls to ask Jagger about… well… the balls, given that he can barely conceal his disdain for some of my questions. When I have the temerity to ask him about how he squared his anti-establishment reputation with accepting a knighthood in 2003, Jagger replies: "It's a bit old hat as a question, if you don't mind me saying. It was quite a long time ago. I think if you're offered these things, if you refuse it's almost like a parody of being a rebel in a way. If you insist on using your title, then it's really silly. It's almost, in our sort of society, rude to turn things down and silly to take them seriously. As Confucius said: 'All honours are false.'"
Is there any other rock star on the planet who could get away with quoting Confucius? Probably not. Somewhere, on the other side of the Atlantic, Keith Richards is probably rolling his eyes.
The unpredictable dynamic between Richards and Jagger means that, like the children of perpetually squabbling parents, Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts have tended to get caught in the middle. Thirty-three years on from the release of Some Girls, they both have different approaches for dealing with the fall-outs. Watts, who has been married for 47 years and doesn't consider himself a rock star, retreats to his wife Shirley's stud farm in Devon when things get too heated.
"I've never been enamoured of rock'n'roll," he says, smoothing down the trouser legs of his impeccably cut three-piece suit. "I mean, I love going on stage and people clapping but I never believed anything outside that." There is a long pause. "It felt a bit minor to me, the whole thing. It's never impressed me that much."
Wood, by contrast, is frequently cast as peacemaker. "I can't see people angry or holding something against each other," Wood says. "I have to bring it out in the open and say: 'You've got to patch this up, you guys.'"
Like all of them, Wood's dedication to the band and the lifestyle it embodied has come at some personal cost. In 2008, he left his second wife, Jo, generally seen as a stabilising influence, for a Russian cocktail waitress called Ekaterina Ivanova. Their four children were devastated by the split. Wood began drinking again and was arrested a year later after witnesses claimed he tried to throttle his girlfriend during a drunken row in the street. He went into rehab for the eighth time and has now been sober for almost two years.
"I became an annoying kind of drunk," Wood recalls. "I annoyed myself and it wasn't working any more… I thought, 'This is not me, this is horrible.'
"I would have long times – months – of sobriety and then say, 'I've got it, I can have a drink now, I can have a drug now' and it would all explode and go terribly wrong… I'm still learning from my mistakes and I'm determined I'll never do anything stupid like that again."
Does he feel his age? "No, I think that's something that saves me. I still feel 29. Maybe I should act my age more, but I just can't."
These days, Wood is contentedly single (after a brief relationship with Brazilian model Ana Araújo) and concentrating on his art – a solo show of his charcoal portraits and oil paintings opened earlier this month. Watts, meanwhile, is much in demand as a jazz drummer after having survived a battle with throat cancer seven years ago. Jagger has formed a new band, SuperHeavy, with singer Joss Stone and Eurythmics founder Dave Stewart, and continues to produce films through his own production company. Richards, the former hellraiser-in-chief, is married to former model Patti Hansen with whom he has two daughters. Nowadays, Richards tells me: "The best drug is breathing." Pause. "I mean, heroin is fantastic. Until you've had too much of it and then you're likely to be dead."
But despite the fact that they are all happily settled and doing their own thing, there is an undeniable frisson when the question of a Rolling Stones reunion is mooted, as if none of them can quite let go of the excitement that comes from being in the band.
Wood says he's having a long overdue operation next month to fix a cracked bone in his foot "so I'm ready for action next year just in case". In case of a tour? "Fifty years!" he shrieks. "It's got to be done."
Watts is, characteristically, more circumspect. "I would like to think we'd do a tour. Um, if we don't, we don't. I mean, I've felt like that for the last 50 years. It's never bothered me if the Rolling Stones stopped tomorrow."
Jagger gives me predictably short shrift. "I've no idea," he sniffs. "We don't really get together that much as a group."
And what about Richards? Can he envisage a reunion tour? "Envisage?" he guffaws. "Yeah. I dream of it."
Some Girls is out on 21 November on Universal; a companion DVD, Some Girls Live in Texas 1978, is released the same day on Eagle Rock
Less than a week to go, and only one more track has leaked out??
Great job cleaning this one up though, Mick. This actually sounds like it was recorded in 77.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9VUSedmlWg
ThrillsNSpills
11-16-2011, 02:21 PM
I read a quick blurb that Keith, Ron, and Charlie were going to get together to get their chops back and see what happens, and Keith said Mick's welcome to join them if he wants, but I didn't bother to post anything due to the fact that I had no idea if it was legit, and if it was I figured FORD would have been all over it anyway.
http://www.antimusic.com/news/11/nov/10Rolling_Stones_Members_Reuniting_For_Jam.shtml
Gotta say though, I like the idea of getting Wyman and Mick Taylor back. Who wouldn't?
(probably Ron)
I'd say the chances of getting Wyman & Taylor on board are better than ever right now. Bill played bass on the only actual NEW Stones recording in recent memory, "Watching the River Flow", which was part of a tribute album to Ian Stewart....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WvtYgPKlw0
And Taylor did some overdubs on the Exile bonus disc, with Jagger & Richards both having nothing but praise for him in their interviews for that project. And then Taylor shows up at the Ian Stewart tribute concert and jams with Woody, Bill, and Charlie. (see the Woody thread).
So at this point, I'd say if Mick & Keef can get over their little tiff - which I'm guessing is all about Mick's Superheavy vanity project - the odds of a 6 man official Stones lineup for the next tour are better than ever.
Well, the bonus disc is here in FORD Country, so here's the scoop on the tracks:
1) Claudine - Can't really detect any obvious overdubbing here. Maybe a vocal tweak here and there. Other than that, it's the same as the boot.
2) So Young - Also pretty much the same as the original.
3) Do You Think I Really Care? - Obviously a new and complete vocal and set of lyrics on this one, sounds even more countrified than before, and I'm guessing Woody redid his steel guitar parts here. Somehow managed to make it sound like 1978 Mick singing, and not 68 year old Mick. Great job.
4) When You're Gone - Straight Up motherfucking blues track, and it sounds like Mick used an old school Green Bullet to record this vocal track... or else Don Was used some tricks to make it sound that way. Genius move either way. Still don't recognize the instrumentals on this one, so it somehow escaped all the previous bootlegs.
5) No Spare Parts - (You Tube clip posted above) - Classic country "road" song with Mick having car trouble in the middle of the Arizona desert. Kinda makes me homesick.... This one is a little more obvious in the respect of Senior Citizen Mick singing over an old track, but it's still a classic Stones Country sound, and again, Woody definitely cleaned up his steel parts from the original.
6) Don't Be A Stranger - This was originally titled "Lucky In Love", but Mick used that title for a different song on his first solo album, so he had to start completely over with a new set of lyrics here. Musically, it's a semi-Latin-Caribbean acoustic number that has "radio friendly" written all over it.
7) We Had It All - Keith's only vocal on this compilation, but one of his best. Think Mick added a bit of harmonica to this one, otherwise pretty much the same as the bootleg version posted earlier in this thread.
8) Tallahassee Lassie - Why fuck with perfection? And they didn't. Maybe a piano overdub? Hard to tell since the bootleg recording is a bit muddled.
9) I Love You Too Much (see previously posted You Tube clip) - This one definitely needed the new vocals, as Mick sounded like a toad with strep throat on the original. Odd thing is the harmonies sound like 70's vintage Keith, so I'm thinking maybe this finished track was in the can all along, and somehow escaped the bootlegs.
10) Keep Up Blues - Obviously, a blues number. Green Bullet used on the vocal again, with Mick blowing the blues harp like only he can. Musically, the song is very reminiscent of The Doors' "Back Door Man"
11) You Win Again - Goddamn you Mick! This song was fucking PERFECT the way it was. Drunk & Miserable, just the way Hank would have wanted. It did NOT need a complete vocal overdub, but you went and did it anyway. This has to be the one thing in this release that truly disappoints me :(
12) Petrol Blues - I actually expected Mick to redo the vocals on this one, to bring it up to date in reference to the current oil crisis, and not the one in the Carter administration. But this one, he left alone. Originally this was just Mick singing and Stu on piano, but it seems they brought Charlie in for the remaster. No guitar parts, oddly enough.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYB9ZFwLB2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY8jqzLZvwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8efz6l-qVk
I doubt YouTube will leave this up for very long, but what the fuck? Here's the entire "new" disc, for your streaming pleasure.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODmV74qhdGs
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