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Kristy
10-29-2011, 01:30 PM
:flypig:MTV To Create Reality Show On Occupy Wall Street Movement:flypig:

By Elizabeth Walsh on October 25, 2011

On November 5 at 6pm, MTV will air ‘True Life: I’m Occupying Wall Street.’ The show will follow selected individuals from Zuccotti Park, one geographical hub of a now-global movement that prides itself on being anti-hierarchical and working in solidarity for change. The network posted an advertisement on Craigslist looking for volunteers aged 20-24 to submit their photos and biographical information to the network. Craigslist seems a rather ironic approach, given that its intended cast is available 24/7 only a few subway stops from the network studios.

MTV’s focus through this episode of True Life will be on recent graduates who are struggling to find work in the economy, despite the promises of their education. The episode is sure to generate criticism and opinions from both the 99% and the 1%, but what does it mean specifically for protestors and those who support the movement but cannot be at Zuccotti Park daily?

As the Occupy Movement spreads, so too does the meaning of the term ‘occupy.’ As participants at the Washington Square General Assembly (a part of the Occupy movement that stands in solidarity with Zuccotti, but operates autonomously, just as other Occupy movements around the globe) have pointed out, ‘to occupy’ is much more than physically taking control of a space. Some have referred to the Occupy Movement as a ‘consciousness revolution,’ asking the 99% to participate in a proactive measure to end apathy and engage in political dialogue in public space – which may take a variety of forms.

So, when MTV airs its episode on Occupy Wall Street, will the occupiers have begun to occupy the entertainment space as well?

via PSFK: http://www.psfk.com/2011/10/mtv-to-create-reality-show-on-occupy-wall-street-movement.html#ixzz1cByowobG


So what's the betting this is just another provocateur ploy? Since Viacom who owns MTV, The Daily Show, Rolling Stone and any other shit controlled media outlet my best guess they'll (Viacom) will make this appear to be cutting edge while at the same time showing only what they want you to see.

Biafra was right

Nickdfresh
10-29-2011, 02:32 PM
We should stage an 'Occupy MTV' event where we force those douche-nozzles to actually play "Music."

hambon4lif
10-29-2011, 03:27 PM
They couldn't already be running out of knocked-up 14-year-olds & drunk vapid bozo hookers to fill their programming schedule. Now they're going to send in some imbeciles to 'play' protester??
Oh, this is going to end badly.

Kristy
10-29-2011, 03:32 PM
Oh, this is going to end badly.

The real irony here will be if MTV can market this crap to viable advertisers - many, if not all, corporate.

How interesting.

hambon4lif
10-29-2011, 04:01 PM
Even deeper irony is that there will be someone actually receiving a fucking check for being there, from one of the very corporations the people are protesting against.
How can the outcome of this asinine idea be anything other than violent?

Kristy
10-29-2011, 04:12 PM
Exactly.

"Hey, allow us full access to film you, shouting down with The Man and hopefully make an ass out of yourself in the process. Oh, and by the way, here's your check signed by The Man himself."

Green Manalishi
10-29-2011, 04:21 PM
When MTV feels like they should do their " journalistic duty " to report on the pulse of

young America ,

I am convinced now more than ever before that the dumbing down of America continues.......

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 05:34 PM
This whole Occupy Wall Street thing is a fake protest movement. It's basically selling a chicken in every pot to the young heads full of mush. This has come a long long way from Hot For Teacher MTV where it went from buy a ticket yourself to see the capitalistic Van Halen to government provided bread and circuses.

The problem with the strategy is the smart people will see through the bullshit and not fall for it and the dumb assholes are too lazy and unmotivated to be much use for anything including a communist revolution. They are too soft and weak.

Like some old cuss like George Soros is going to understand todays pathetic youth. They are even more pathetic to be any use to him.

Satan
10-29-2011, 05:38 PM
The Occupy movement is a real grassroots effort, unlike the KKKoch invented teabaggers. Of course that doesn't mean the corporatist "Democrats" aren't trying to steal it, but the Occupiers are smarter than the drooling teabaggers, so they'll see through that shit.

Trust me, I invented protesting. I damn well know the difference.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 05:49 PM
Even deeper irony is that there will be someone actually receiving a fucking check for being there, from one of the very corporations the people are protesting against.
How can the outcome of this asinine idea be anything other than violent?

Problem=Crash the economy
Reaction=Angry people in the streets
Solution=Big brother promises fairness in reality it's the banks and corporations duping the people to be total slaves for a false promise.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 05:56 PM
The Occupy movement is a real grassroots effort, unlike the KKKoch invented teabaggers. Of course that doesn't mean the corporatist "Democrats" aren't trying to steal it, but the Occupiers are smarter than the drooling teabaggers, so they'll see through that shit.

Trust me, I invented protesting. I damn well know the difference.

No it's not. It's too organized. There is too much money behind it. This is all a huge redistribution of wealth promotion trying to get people to support a socialist movement that will come in later. Basically it's trying to get people to roll over, give in their personal liberties for some false promises so the masses can be more easily controlled. When you no longer can own your own property and the government provides everything, you are a slave at the mercy of whoever controls the system. It's all about herding lemmings more than justice for the banking and political crimes. It's all running on emotion and hype. Not the two things you want to base any big decisions on.

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:00 PM
The Occupy movement is a real grassroots effort, unlike the KKKoch invented teabaggers. Of course that doesn't mean the corporatist "Democrats" aren't trying to steal it, but the Occupiers are smarter than the drooling teabaggers, so they'll see through that shit.

Trust me, I invented protesting. I damn well know the difference.

Adbusters, Moveon.org, and public unions are real grassroots, aren't they?

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:01 PM
Exactly.

"Hey, allow us full access to film you, shouting down with The Man and hopefully make an ass out of yourself in the process. Oh, and by the way, here's your check signed by The Man himself."

Like I said, the intelligent people won't fall for it. Who will are the stupid lazy people. So I guess the next revolution will be the motivated and intelligent against the stupid and lazy. Gee. I wonder who is going to win that one?:lmao:

Like I say, when you smell the fake cheese it's time to pass it up. Occupy Wall Street should appeal to Sammy Hagar fans. He will probably be on MTV with Chicken Foot singing about needing a job soon enough. They should be serving McRibbs to the protesters. Fake food for a fake movement.

Of course the paid off police who's job it is to smack some people around to try and set off a riot might beat, taze, and pepper spray Hagar and how could that be a bad thing?:lmao:

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:05 PM
George soros is a true piece of shit.

he's a hedge-fund manager from the 80's, and this is where he made his billions of dollars...which is ironically what he has rallied these protesters against.

him, and others like the koch brothers are trying to destroy this country.

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:09 PM
Like I said, the intelligent people won't fall for it. Who will are the stupid lazy people. So I guess the next revolution will be the motivated and intelligent against the stupid and lazy. Gee. I wonder who is going to win that one?:lmao:

Like I say, when you smell the fake cheese it's time to pass it up. Occupy Wall Street should appeal to Sammy Hagar fans. He will probably be on MTV with Chicken Foot singing about needing a job soon enough. They should be serving McRibbs to the protesters. Fake food for a fake movement.

Of course the paid off police who's job it is to smack some people around to try and set off a riot might beat, taze, and pepper spray Hagar and how could that be a bad thing?:lmao:

HEY! leave the mcrib out of this. It's such an amazing guilty pleasure of mine.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:15 PM
Now for the normal, decent people who went down to protest on their own accord without any corporate or organizational sponsorship. They are exempt. We all got screwed. Just don't sell your soul for the fake cheeseburgers being offered by Move One, The Unions, and the mainstream media. Who will fix it is YOU. Not some cheese bag promising to babysit you.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:16 PM
HEY! leave the mcrib out of this. It's such an amazing guilty pleasure of mine.

Ok. How about a Filet O' Fish sandwich? That has to be the worst thing on the McHaggar menu.

Satan
10-29-2011, 06:20 PM
George Soros has about as much to do with OWS as I do with the Trinity Broadcasting Network. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d095.gif

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:21 PM
Have no problem with those that are normal, rational people who are trying to make their voices heard.

if for example sa..je..err..I mean El-Ford-o went down to go protests with a bottle of beer in hand, got no problem with that. He's genuine in his belief, and he's not getting paid for or representing anyone but himself or his interests.

same with any tea partier who is doing this of their own accord and not because Rush Limbaugh said to.

My prob. is those that do it because it's backed by a particular group or doing it to push their completely insane viewpoints. the fucking communist party of the usa getting behind this makes me less inclined to support it.

if lets say this, I saw these protests full of normal, average joe next door neighbor types I think this would be taken even more serious. But that's not what I'm seeing for the view points.

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:23 PM
George Soros has about as much to do with OWS as I do with the Trinity Broadcasting Network. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d095.gif

You so sure? It would explain a lot about Tammy Faye's makeup and that one weird chick with the helmet hair dyed pink:biggrin:

Unchainme
10-29-2011, 06:24 PM
Ok. How about a Filet O' Fish sandwich? That has to be the worst thing on the McHaggar menu.

meh. Micky D's around here has vastily improved their overall taste. Everything tastes so much better now.

Plus, I think Diamond Dave has more of a claim on America's no. 1 fast food place ;)

http://www.nogoodforme.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vanhalenmcdonalds.jpg

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:25 PM
If someone had told me in 1983 that MTV in the future would become a fascist propaganda channel I would have laughed myself silly and thought the person who said that was a nut job. Now nut job has become reality. It's like we live in some kind of fucking asylum. A corporate sponsored asylum.

hambon4lif
10-29-2011, 06:25 PM
Now for the normal, decent people who went down to protest on their own accord without any corporate or organizational sponsorship. They are exempt. We all got screwed. Just don't sell your soul for the fake cheeseburgers being offered by Move One, The Unions, and the mainstream media. Who will fix it is YOU. Not some cheese bag promising to babysit you.I want to thank you for clarifying that, because I was really beginning to think you were a real douche!:thumb:

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:31 PM
I want to thank you for clarifying that, because I was really beginning to think you were a real douche!:thumb:

Yeah. I could see my posts were looking a bit harsh so I had to toss that disclaimer in there. Basically the American people know something is wrong. They know Washington DC and Wall Street were responsible but many don't know the details. Then you have the scum bags trying to use the momentum of the frustration to their own gain and even try to make it violent.

If anything it exposes the assholes. I think it's going to back fire badly. Fuck Donny Deutsch for making sound like the protests are in vain unless people get killed like Kent State. Fuck the police who got paid to rough people up hoping they can set off the anthill. Fuck MTV for propagandizing it. Fuck all the people who are being paid to be there. It's fake, fake, fake.

Oh and fuck the people in power waiting in the shadows hoping they will have an excuse to declare martial law and crack down if they do manage to set it all off.

Kudos to the protestors who kept their cool during some very angering moments. They want you angery and violent. The cameras are ready to roll and the police are ready to pounce. Homeland Security is on alert. See where it all can go? The truth of the matter is all of this can be turned with no violence and it will be turned on the local level and not by giving some central organization more power. It won't happen overnight and it will be a long hard road. Be aware of someone selling a quick magical solution to things.

Satan
10-29-2011, 06:32 PM
He's still a douche if he thinks its the unions and MoveOn.org that screwed us.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:39 PM
Oh and fuck FOX NEWS and Geraldo. I just felt like saying that.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 06:40 PM
He's still a douche if he thinks its the unions and MoveOn.org that screwed us.

No the US Congress, George W. Bush, Barrack Obama, Bill Clinton, George H. Bush, and the Federal Reserve Bank screwed us. I know who the real bad guys are.

All elected people with the exception of the FED. So in reality the American people allowed themselves to be screwed. Those low interest rates and easy stock and real estate money were one hell of a distraction.

I saw it coming. I prepared for it. What I didn't see is the bailouts to the level they would be. I knew the politicians were corrupt but holy hell not that corrupt. Wall Street does what it can get away with but Washington is the enabler. When you have a bunch of drunks you don't give them more booze.

Nickdfresh
10-29-2011, 06:45 PM
No it's not. It's too organized. There is too much money behind it. This is all a huge redistribution of wealth promotion trying to get people to support a socialist movement that will come in later. Basically it's trying to get people to roll over, give in their personal liberties for some false promises so the masses can be more easily controlled. When you no longer can own your own property and the government provides everything, you are a slave at the mercy of whoever controls the system. It's all about herding lemmings more than justice for the banking and political crimes. It's all running on emotion and hype. Not the two things you want to base any big decisions on.

It didn't start out as "organized" you dolt, it was rather spontaneous. It has grown into an organized movement, despite the best efforts of the media corporate elites. And your "socialist" diatribe idiocy betrays an entire lack of understanding of socialism--let alone regulated capitalism, which is what a majority of this protest actually want...

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 07:09 PM
When you hear about a protest before it even happens it's organized. It already had a brand name "Occupy Wall Street" and international leadership in place. It takes a lot of people and a lot of money to do that.

A real grass roots protest is a few people showing up usually in one location and that gets attention and more and more people come into it. It is not advertised or organized until some time goes by.

When you see an organization like MTV come in you know what the deal is.

I'm sorry Nick but Occupy Wall Street is sponsored by Wall Street. Kristy is right.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 07:15 PM
Occupy Wall Street = Obama 2012 campaign strategy. It's called rally the base.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 07:19 PM
It didn't start out as "organized" you dolt, it was rather spontaneous. It has grown into an organized movement, despite the best efforts of the media corporate elites. And your "socialist" diatribe idiocy betrays an entire lack of understanding of socialism--let alone regulated capitalism, which is what a majority of this protest actually want...

You mean distribution of wealth and capitalism doesn't work? Exactly what is the end run strategy of this? Who is going to do it? Please. You were the guy saying Obamacare was a good idea and now that just empowered the corporations. GE brings good things to life! You promoted corporate fascism in the name of socialized medicine and didn't even know it you useful idiot. Now get on the train and head to NYC and hold a sign for MTV mushhead.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 07:29 PM
The Second American Revolution:

The corporations and useful idiots vs. the intelligent people.

Looks like Viacom is organizing it's troops right now.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 08:14 PM
What the powers that be really want is to have the left blame the Tea Party for everything and have the right blame the Occupy Wall Street movement for everything. In reality at the pure core of both movements it's a protest against the same damn thing. Banking abuse and the political enabling of it. Then they can have us both in our little camps pissing on each other with the media fanning it.

This is the trap folks and we need to get beyond these labels, stand as real Americans and go after the bastards refusing to be herded by the media. In fact, turn the shit off. Go down to a protest and take a looksie for yourself and think for yourself. Shit on the media.

Fuck Rush Limbaugh and fuck Keith Olberman. Fuck em all!

I think a Fuck the media protest would be good. LOL!

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 08:43 PM
Here's a Tea Party supporter saying they should join the protest. Good idea actually. The media is just going to show the communist radical fringe and ignore the normal people and sell it to the right as something to fight just like they sold the left on the tea party being a bunch of racist nazis and they bought it. As long as they can keep the public divided fighting each other they can take whatever they want from us.

Nitro Express
10-29-2011, 08:53 PM
meh. Micky D's around here has vastily improved their overall taste. Everything tastes so much better now.

Plus, I think Diamond Dave has more of a claim on America's no. 1 fast food place ;)

http://www.nogoodforme.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/vanhalenmcdonalds.jpg

That picture was taken back when we still had a middle class and there were concerts actually worth going to and radio didn't suck.

Satan
10-30-2011, 12:51 AM
Here's a Tea Party supporter saying they should join the protest. Good idea actually. The media is just going to show the communist radical fringe and ignore the normal people and sell it to the right as something to fight just like they sold the left on the tea party being a bunch of racist nazis and they bought it. As long as they can keep the public divided fighting each other they can take whatever they want from us.

You're taking an assclown who calls himself "Vinny Eastwood" seriously?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

DlocRoth
10-30-2011, 01:11 AM
The Occupy movement is a real grassroots effort, unlike the KKKoch invented teabaggers. Of course that doesn't mean the corporatist "Democrats" aren't trying to steal it, but the Occupiers are smarter than the drooling teabaggers, so they'll see through that shit.

Trust me, I invented protesting. I damn well know the difference.

Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name.

Nitro Express
10-30-2011, 01:45 AM
You're taking an assclown who calls himself "Vinny Eastwood" seriously?? http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/teufel/d025.gif

Yeah. I like spaghetti westerns.

Unchainme
10-30-2011, 01:55 PM
I dislike and do not support OWS, however...christ this is scumbag level of the first level:


f you're one of the nation's top "foreclosure mill" law firms—representing Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Wells Fargo in their attempts to foreclose on homes and evict homeowners—what better way to celebrate Halloween than by throwing a party where everyone comes as a dirty, homeless victim of your practice?

The New York Times' Joe Nocera was sent a series of photos from a Halloween party thrown last year by the firm of Steven J. Baum—the "merciless" foreclosure mill, subject of a Justice Department investigation, and defendant in at least two class-action lawsuits over its shady foreclosure practices. In one photo, two women with fake dirt on their faces hold a sign that says "3rd party squatter. I lost my home and was never served!!"; in another, a woman holding a beer bottle in a paper bag pushes a shopping cart with a sign saying "will work for food." They're pretty horrible! Like, "would offend the richest, whitest frat at the most conservative university in the south" horrible. You can see the rest of the photographs here.

But, oh, it's just Halloween, right? Usually Baum employees are kind and empathetic to the people whose lives they're ruining, aren't they? Well... no. The anonymous woman who sent the photos to Nocera says that they're emblematic of the culture at Baum:

In an e-mail, she said that she wanted me to see them because they showed an appalling lack of compassion toward the homeowners - invariably poor and down on their luck - that the Baum firm had brought foreclosure proceedings against.

When we spoke later, she added that the snapshots are an accurate representation of the firm's mind-set. "There is this really cavalier attitude," she said. "It doesn't matter that people are going to lose their homes." Nor does the firm try to help people get mortgage modifications; the pressure, always, is to foreclose.

The firm, when contacted by Nocera, called the photos "another attempt by The New York Times to attack our firm and our work." Well... yeah. Because your firm is horrible and your work sucks.

http://gawker.com/5854540/top-foreclosure-firm-threw-homeless+themed-halloween-bash

fuck these people. seriously. fuck them.

and you know what? QUIT GIVING MONEY TO THESE PREDATORY SCUMBAGS. Too big too fail my ass. let them fucking go broke. Give the damn money back to the American people.

Nitro Express
10-30-2011, 02:12 PM
For me I think we all need to just be individuals and stop belonging to these political parties and groups like The Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street. People are hard to herd but groups are easy to herd. People need to start doing their own research and think for themselves and act based on that. Too many people vote the party line or get into group think. Then whoever controls the group controls a lot of people.

Here's our choices. We elect people to the congress and white house that will turn things around. We get enough states on board to have a constitutional convention which then puts the power of the federal government back to the states. Or we raise a military powerful enough to beat the current government and take over that way. Or break away and become your own country. Those are the options. The bullet, the ballot, or a constitutional convention.

The banks will probably love to finance both sides on the war thing.

Nitro Express
10-30-2011, 02:24 PM
The key to the banks is to have a court decide what they did was legal. I think cutting up mortgages and throwing the pieces into a pot and selling it and reselling it is illegal. Why? A mortgage is a contract between two parties. You can't change it unless you write up a whole new contract with the new party and the other party agrees to the terms. If anyone can just sell their contract and change things on a whim it kind nullifies the reason for having these contracts in the first place. I would say who is on the original mortgage is still the mortgage no matter if it was sold or not. So if the original institutions can't produce the paperwork I guess the mortgage is null and void.

A building I owned had the mortgage sold to Wells Fargo and when I went to sell it Wells Fargo could not produce the mortgage that they suppossedly bought. I had my paperwork but they couldn't produce theirs. It was a real mess. The banks have bought political power but their record keeping is real shitty. In fact, I think these banks are just a big computer program running on auto pilot. I don't think there is much management going on. As long as they have their ties to the Federal Reserve and political cronies, they can do whatever they want or at least they think they can.

Nitro Express
10-30-2011, 03:12 PM
I think they need to toss the peace signs and stop pretending this is the 1960's but this group understands the mortgage problem and is addressing the right channels. You can stand around angry but that does no good unless you know what the problem is, who is responsible, and how to go after them.

Nitro Express
10-30-2011, 03:37 PM
Equal taxation is equal slavery. We need to take the money supply away from the bankers.

Unchainme
11-06-2011, 12:23 AM
Fuck it

Taped this and watched it/

The girl interviewed said a pretty annoying thing I've heard. I'll transcribe it to the best of my abilities.

"I am a college student, and did everything the right way, and thought it would be the way best way to go through life, and I'm finding out that nothing is guaranteed"

The guy they had interviewed seemed kinda gay (not that there's anything wrong with that),and the girl really seemed kinda air-headed. I mean she's not really as dumb as some of the girls I've ran into in my time on earth, but she didn't seem to understand the outside world all that well. Granted, I can't say that, but just from my perspective that seems to be it.

"Why is the NYPD protecting Bank of America?", was another shout I heard.

...ummm, do you think it could have anything to do with the possibility of the protester growing out of control and possibly targetting a corporation they really despise and possibly it spiraling out of control?

Kristy
11-06-2011, 12:57 AM
So they did air it? I'm not surprised by your report they they fixated it on stereotypes and purposefully sought out America's low IQ protesting culture.

Nitro Express
11-06-2011, 01:26 PM
The truth of the matter is everyone is angry. Some people know exactly what happened and perfectly understand what a credit default swap is and what flash trading is. Some people don't have a clue. The first people to get real angry were the Tea Party but that didn't have everyone on board and fizzled. Now Occupy Wall Street is getting the attention. I doubt it will have legs either. But the anger is still there, much of the public know what happened in general and something else will rise. In the whole this is a revolution against abusive banking and corporate practices and it's global because finance is global. The good news is we all are on board who the bad guys are. Like I said before, nothing else matters until we get the banking system cleaned and fixed.