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Sarge

11-24-2011, 01:42 AM

Sarge

11-24-2011, 01:43 AM

oh yeah...

This is probably the weekend to purchase...
Breasts,
Sarge

POJO_Risin

11-24-2011, 02:03 AM

I picked up this system earlier this year...love it...

and there's some deals on it all over the place...here it is at amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EP2HMU/ref=asc_df_B005EP2HMU1794449?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pg-527-01-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395097&creativeASIN=B005EP2HMU

I've got my Iphone on the damn thing all the time, and it sounds like your in row 1...and the fucking blu rays nearly bring the house down...

POJO_Risin

11-24-2011, 02:05 AM

By the way BITCH!!!

What the fuck is up!!!

Happy turkey day big man...clearly things are going well...since we all know that "30% audio" bullshit is code for...

"70% porn"

Nothing like a little Porn on a 55 inch TV, and in full fucking surround sound. Probably miss that hairy middle eastern bush...

POJO_Risin

11-24-2011, 02:08 AM

That thing has six HDMI's, has the docking station, and is internet ready for internet radio...rhapsody...all that shit...

I'm telling you...it's awesome...especially at that price...

clarathecarrot

11-24-2011, 09:07 AM

Sarge, I shopped all over Kansas city stores and the net and really comparision shopped bang for the buck type of a deal for a DVD VHS duping machine to convert VHS to DVD (don't know why buying the movies on new dvd studio release is better but I am a wierd need to do it myself kind of guy sometimes). The first one I bought broke within a year, purchased locally here in KC,junk. The crutchfield I bought after researching, is a Toshiba and will even boost the quality of my TV show to HD and the movies up to 1080p. My TV isn.t HD but the signal is improved thu HDMI cables.

Anyway these cats at Crutchfield had the best of the best they are kind of pricey but not upper end the gear however is fine quality.

I will list the website and you can view it but I reccomend ordering thier Catalog I get one every couple months and the selection of Theater Systems is wide varries single speakers etc or a complete set up that is upgradable and repairable in the future unlike some systems .

I don't know why I wrote all this crap but I will reccomend this company thru the week or two I spend doing research.

2nd link has a red colored highlite to order a catalog.

http://www.crutchfield.com/

http://www.crutchfield.com/g_12700/Surround-Sound-Speaker-Systems.html?avf=N&evar36=Header:Surround_Sound_Speaker_Systems

clarathecarrot

11-24-2011, 09:13 AM

Woops I didn't read the whole thread my bad lol.

fryingdutchman

11-24-2011, 09:51 AM

Excellent recommendation from POJO.

Onkyo makes good shit. You also can't go wrong with Denon.

neuralfraud

11-24-2011, 09:51 AM

I don't know if you're interested in component based systems, however I have built a very good sounding system by choosing from a bunch of inexpensive but fairly-decent gear for a little bit less than the typical home-theater packages, but IMO it's better for listening to music and I _personally_ just didnt have room for the sub or satellites or a huge budget.

Check out http://newegg.com as they sell quite a lot of A/V gear and most of it is definitely less expensive than the stores.

I've got the following and have been very happy:

Onkyo TX-SR506 - 7.1 channels, HDMI passthrough, 3 in 1 out, 2 digital coax audio 2 optical audio (each one assignable) and a bunch of other shit

Polk Audio Monitor 50 speakers - very good sensitivity (more dB per watt), power handling and average rating, the sound is crisp and has good bass response considering the small drivers - well designed.

Pioneer elite center channel speaker.

TV is a rather old samsung 56" dlp so i connect with DVI->hdmi adapter. Plug in a laptop via dvi->hdmi, plug in the blu-ray player and let the receiver do the work. It does have support for an onkyo ipod dock as well.

Of course you can't go wrong with anything by onkyo.. The reason I chose onkyo is in the power. Cheaper systems are rated by how much power it can output during a single frequency (say 1200 hz or something), while better systems tend to be tested throughout the entire frquency range and the power rating is therefore much more accurate. Not only that, but be wary of anything that advertises power output in terms of "peak" - peak is bullshit. If your receiver can sustain at least 75 watts/channel it'll rock - even without separate powered subwoofers.

HTH

fryingdutchman

11-24-2011, 09:54 AM

Nice TV choice, Sarge!

Samsung puts out awesome TV's. Mind if I ask what you paid for it?

Sarge

11-24-2011, 05:42 PM

Guys thanks for the recommendations.
Pojo,
Are those speakers wired or wireless?

I am checking around for Black Friday (no racist, you son's a bitches) deals.

Breasts,

Sarge

POJO_Risin

11-24-2011, 06:08 PM

the speakers are wired...which is probably the one beef I have with it...

but it's a small beef.

My system is awesome...

clarathecarrot

11-24-2011, 10:19 PM

Lets make this thread about me...j/k...but I have a question with all of the wireless around the world today.. my 13 year old niece leaches her internet off the neighbor.. I don't skype and use road runner for internet (cable)...I mean I always thought hard wired would be the way to go, isn't there a possibility for some interferance with your speakers being wireless..loss of quality..?

I have heard some people yell add Edward Van Halen to plug his guitar back in ( on this board) to get better sound?
My ex boss uses nothing but a wireless flash sync system ( radio) for his camera and lighting photography system but that is only a short pulse, to flip a switch, and sometimes we have issues with interference.

I am assuming you all are talking about wireless speakers system for the home theater I am out of the loop on sending ampified stereo sounds to a speaker system is it really a great idea or just a new toy type of thing or the way all home systems will be in the future...?

I have set up quite a few home theater system, HD tv, laser disk, DVD Audio, connected to 5 other componants etc..wall of sound..? more like wall in the basement of 12 audio and video machines all needing to talk to each other with wire, for friends... I seem to be able to figure out the 50 sets of wires that run from machine to machine, the backs of some of these amplifiers have 50 connection possibilies.. s video HDMI Componant in/ out, HDMI it's nuts back there, I am no raodie wires can be a bitch like a big nasty rats nest..is this going to be a obsolete thing...do I need to come out of the dark ages..I am serious and could use some 411 most of the time I just act like I know everything, I know nothing about wireless home systems..?

I have little or no real time in the wireless world am I a caveman..?

any help welcome..( except take a bath, quit smoking ciggarettes, and start to use splel check)

clarathecarrot

11-24-2011, 10:46 PM

I think HR69 is the resident audio and video expert ..if he gets some time, I could use some advice.

High Life Man

11-25-2011, 12:01 AM

I bought an Onkyo system earler this Fall. I think it rocks. Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003IT49LG/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details

I also picked up a Rocketfish Wireless Speaker adapter for $100. It works great and sounds damn good.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VEP3XO/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details

Kristy

11-25-2011, 12:31 AM

You also can't go wrong with Denon.

I owned a Denon for years that I bought late in high school and had it all through college. It was one of the first 5.1 with only DTS and Dolby Digital which isn't much compared with what's out there these days (W/HDMI and all) but it was a good little unit. Think I ended up selling to some college kid for @$50-60.

Anyway, another good choice is Yamaha. I have a RX V863(?) that I picked for up @$1,000 (but it's been a few years) and run it through a pair of JBL's and center JBL and Advent satellites

http://www.world-import.com/product-images/xlarge/Yamaha__rx-v863_Dual_Voltage.jpg
(right one -had to go back and look at exactly what the model # was :doh:)

I never heard anything sound better for the money and even new for @$600 you can pick up one that has all the fixings like all that Dolby theater sound shit, like the VX1700 (@$700 retail) and it does twice the shit of the one I have now! Beautiful unit, I do say so myself!
http://www.hometheatershack.com/images/YamahaRXV1700_front.jpg

Review here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/yamaha-rx-v1700/4864-6466_7-32004259.html

I highly recommend Yamaha equipment for home theater, but shop around; look at Denon, Pioneer, and even Harmon Kardon, stay in budget guidelines but definitely give Yamaha a look.

Right, not much help, am I?

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 01:59 AM

I have had good luck with Onkyo. I have had multiple problems with Bose equipment finding it to be overpriced, unreliable, and not enough features finding other brands match the sound quality for less money. Sony can be a diamond in the rough or pure shit. If buying Sony read the reviews because some of their stuff is really good for the money and some of their stuff is awful. It amazes me how much system you can get now for such low prices.

twonabomber

11-25-2011, 02:03 AM

Bose is all clever marketing.

all i know is that i want two big fuckin' speakers flanking my HDTV. like four foot tall sumbitches.

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 02:04 AM

Of course you can't go wrong with anything by onkyo.. The reason I chose onkyo is in the power. Cheaper systems are rated by how much power it can output during a single frequency (say 1200 hz or something), while better systems tend to be tested throughout the entire frquency range and the power rating is therefore much more accurate. Not only that, but be wary of anything that advertises power output in terms of "peak" - peak is bullshit. If your receiver can sustain at least 75 watts/channel it'll rock - even without separate powered subwoofers.

I always buy twice the power I actually use. Systems always sound better if you leave half or less of the amp power in the can. Once you start pushing it to peak you start degrading the sound quality. When RMS wattage is so cheap now, why not?

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 02:12 AM

Bose is all clever marketing.

all i know is that i want two big fuckin' speakers flanking my HDTV. like four foot tall sumbitches.

Sometimes less is actually better. I hooked up two high and mid range Bose speakers into an old Sony receiver running a sub woofer and just using the front speaker bar on a Mitsubishi TV in a room that was 20'x30' and it sounded great. Unless your back speakers are set up right and are really good, sometimes you just don't need them. Sometimes with the right room you can get by with less. Sometimes the more simple system sounds better.

twonabomber

11-25-2011, 02:15 AM

bullshit. nothing exceeds like excess. you were around in the eighties, you know that. :D

Kristy

11-25-2011, 02:16 AM

There is a saying young grasshoppers: "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose."

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 02:18 AM

I have set up quite a few home theater system, HD tv, laser disk, DVD Audio, connected to 5 other componants etc..wall of sound..? more like wall in the basement of 12 audio and video machines all needing to talk to each other with wire, for friends... I seem to be able to figure out the 50 sets of wires that run from machine to machine, the backs of some of these amplifiers have 50 connection possibilies.. s video HDMI Componant in/ out, HDMI it's nuts back there, I am no raodie wires can be a bitch like a big nasty rats nest..is this going to be a obsolete thing...do I need to come out of the dark ages..I am serious and could use some 411 most of the time I just act like I know everything, I know nothing about wireless home systems..?

I think wireless is fine if your room situation makes it difficult to run wires and I'm amazed at how good some of those systems sound but if you are really serious about making a top end system it's going to be wired. I have a friend who custom installs very expensive home theater systems and it's still wire in that league.

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 02:21 AM

bullshit. nothing exceeds like excess. you were around in the eighties, you know that. :D

Who's says you can't dime it on occasion?:biggrin: I like my sound systems to be like a Porsche. Most the time you are just driving it around at normal speed but when the occasion presents itself, you want something to be there.

Nitro Express

11-25-2011, 02:24 AM

There is a saying young grasshoppers: "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose."

That's if it works. Keep the original box because you will be packing it up and sending it to the warranty repair station.

ashstralia

11-25-2011, 02:54 AM

g'day sarge! i'm with kristy. the yamaha stuff is really good bang for the buck, reliable, and sounds great.

Dan

11-25-2011, 03:09 AM

Sony Still Kicks Ass.Now Waiting For FORD To Say Something About That.:D

Seshmeister

11-25-2011, 07:01 AM

Who's says you can't dime it on occasion?:biggrin: I like my sound systems to be like a Porsche.

Any time you use it onlookers assume you either have an unusually small penis or are having some sort of mid-life crisis?

clarathecarrot

11-25-2011, 10:27 AM

I think wireless is fine if your room situation makes it difficult to run wires and I'm amazed at how good some of those systems sound but if you are really serious about making a top end system it's going to be wired. I have a friend who custom installs very expensive home theater systems and it's still wire in that league.

Thankyou,

They are making these cables now that are a single wrapped cable with everything in it, ethernet, hdmi, phone, s vid, alarm for homes and running ti to every room all color coded that would be simple if you are buying new.

Smart House wiring I think they call it.

However if you could remote all of your old system 1989 amplifier, ( I know those geeks in silicon valley can do this) stuff then it would have to be linked to a computer somehow wirelessly that may be they way.

Maybe these days are going away..maybe this is the only reall way to get what we need I am in the grey area...? indecision killed the cat.

http://www.surroundsolutions.com/images/home-theater-cable-bundle.png

I used to call my easy chair, command central, because the table next to it had literaly 15 remotes on it and if I didn't use them regularily I would forget how to..lol.

Nickdfresh

11-25-2011, 01:30 PM

Excellent recommendation from POJO.

Onkyo makes good shit. You also can't go wrong with Denon.

Bit disappointed with the Onkyo I bought about six years ago. The going digital thing basically knackered the power and warmth offered by the old fashioned tubes in my late-1990's vintage Onkyo. Okay for movies, it kind of sucked for blasting music. But I guess that's something that's across the board rather than exclusive to Onkyo...

TJMKID

11-25-2011, 02:29 PM

Greetings and Salutations Gentlemen,

I just bought this flatscreen

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O6MN7O/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=dlrmy&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B004O6MN7O">Samsung UN55D7000 55-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D LED HDTV (Silver)</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=dlrmy&l=as2&o=1&a=B004O6MN7O&camp=217145&creative=399373" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />

and I would like to pair it with a nice affordable home theater system.
Price range : 1000 ish

I am going to listen to music 30% of the time and movies the other.
I need something that is nice ...

any suggestions or advice?
I am open to all....

DO NOT ----- I repeat DO NOT ----- buy an Onkyo AV receiver!

I bought the Onkyo TX-SR606 receiver 3 yrs. ago and 3 out of 4 HDMI inputs are DEAD and I cant access the setup menu which means I cant tweak my surround sound settings. This $400 unit is a PIECE OF DOG SHIT. Don't say I didnt warn you.

I'd go with Denon or Yamaha --- perhaps a Marantz if you have deep pockets. I'm buying a Pioneer receiver because they're so feature-rich and have a shitload of surround settings.

Nickdfresh

11-26-2011, 02:01 AM

Um, I'm pretty sure Marantz is actually Onkyo's flagship line IIRC...

Nitro Express

11-26-2011, 03:02 AM

DO NOT ----- I repeat DO NOT ----- buy an Onkyo AV receiver!

I bought the Onkyo TX-SR606 receiver 3 yrs. ago and 3 out of 4 HDMI inputs are DEAD and I cant access the setup menu which means I cant tweak my surround sound settings. This $400 unit is a PIECE OF DOG SHIT. Don't say I didnt warn you.

I'd go with Denon or Yamaha --- perhaps a Marantz if you have deep pockets. I'm buying a Pioneer receiver because they're so feature-rich and have a shitload of surround settings.

What I find is the model is sometimes more important than the brand name. I think all companies make some shit. Having worked in high tech manufacturing there is always the component that goes bad in a particular batch. Delayed ESD damage was always a problem. A reputable chip manufacture will run a higher voltage through the board to induce failure. It means throwing away some product but it assures what goes out is more reliable. I'm sure this is why so many Chinese electrical devices just quit. I mean it's all microprocessors now and unless the quality control is there, you are going to have complete failures out of the blue. With so much being made in China and components coming from all over it is hard to stay on top of the quality control.

I don't like to be the first to buy any product. I like to wait and see how it performs after people have used it for awhile and then read the reviews. All you can do is see what other people have had to say. But you do want to pay attention to the particular model number instead of just assuming a brand name across the board is good.

Nitro Express

11-26-2011, 03:12 AM

Bit disappointed with the Onkyo I bought about six years ago. The going digital thing basically knackered the power and warmth offered by the old fashioned tubes in my late-1990's vintage Onkyo. Okay for movies, it kind of sucked for blasting music. But I guess that's something that's across the board rather than exclusive to Onkyo...

That's my trick for adding depth and color to digital music is just running it through a tube amp. I have yet to hear any digital modeling that does it better.

Nitro Express

11-26-2011, 03:17 AM

Any time you use it onlookers assume you either have an unusually small penis or are having some sort of mid-life crisis?

I think it's called having fun. You should try it sometime.

Sarge

11-28-2011, 07:19 PM

Guys, I tired to not go beserk and buy high end stuff... but that is what ended up happening.
Anyone that knows me and has seen my guitar gear setup knows that I tend to go overboard at times!

I ended up going with this setup.

Harman Kardon AVR 2650 7.1 AV Receiver (Black )
Klipsch RF-82 II Floorstanding Speaker (black-pair)
Klipsch RS-52II Surround Speaker (pair) (Black )
Klipsch RC-62II Center Speaker (black-each)
Sub- Klipsch RW-12D R

Also I ended up not getting the UND7000. I found a better deal on a Samsung UN55D8000 55-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D LED HDTV (Silver), so I got it instead.

Price: mucho $$

can't wait to get it hooked up~

Kristy

11-28-2011, 08:09 PM

Harman Kardon AVR 2650 7.1 AV Receiver (Black )

That I would take back.

Sarge

11-29-2011, 06:05 PM

That I would take back.

I cancelled it off my order.
Here is what I got instead
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR809-Certified-7-2-Channel-Receiver/dp/B00505F01E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322607817&sr=8-3
Onkyo TX-NR809 THX Certified 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver (Black)
My speakers were shipped today and the box weighed 185 pounds!
can't wait to get them!

TJMKID

11-29-2011, 06:14 PM

I cancelled it off my order.
Here is what I got instead
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR809-Certified-7-2-Channel-Receiver/dp/B00505F01E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1322607817&sr=8-3
Onkyo TX-NR809 THX Certified 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver (Black)
My speakers were shipped today and the box weighed 185 pounds!
can't wait to get them!

I thought I warned you NOT to buy an Onkyo receiver ?!?!?

Pack it up and send it back for a refund ASAP.

Buy a Denon or Yamaha or Pioneer instead. ONKYO IS DOG SHIT EQUIPMENT --- I WARNED YOU !!!