Another shooting at VA Tech: Two Dead, Shooter Still Not Found

[Va Beach VH Fan]

http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/articles/2011/12/120811-vtnews-alert.html?utm_campaign=Argyle%2BSocial-2011-12&utm_content=shaybar&utm_medium=Argyle%2BSocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=2011-12-08-13-57-00

Police investigating shootings on campus; shooter's status unknown.

BLACKSBURG, Va., Dec. 8, 2011 – Shortly after noon today, a Virginia Tech police officer stopped a vehicle on campus during a routine traffic stop in the Coliseum parking lot near McComas Hall

During the traffic stop. the officer was shot and killed. There were witnesses to this shooting.

Witnesses reported to police the shooter fled on foot heading toward the Cage, a parking lot near Duck Pond Drive. At that parking lot, a second person was found. That person is also deceased.

Several law enforcement agencies have responded to assist. Virginia State Police has been requested to take lead in the investigation

The status of the shooter is unknown. The campus community should continue to shelter in place and visitors should not come to campus.

[FORD]

Damn... what the Hell is in the water on that campus?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Dunno...

My son has some buddies enrolled there now, gives ya a different perspective, I tell ya....

[Nitro Express]

It's rare to have a school shooting. Out of the thousands of universities and colleges in this country most have never had a campus shooting. Twice at the same school so close apart is a first. Virginia Tech is starting to look like Afghanistan.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

The shooter in 2007 was a Korean kid with severe anxiety disorder...

This one is a white kid....

[LoungeMachine]

As a brother of a State Trooper, I have to say there is no such thing as a "routine traffic stop" anymore....

[Nickdfresh]

The suspect reportedly killed himself...

[LoungeMachine]

The suspect reportedly killed himself...

Which begs the question.......

THEN WHY'D YOU HAVE TO KILL THEM FIRST ASSHOLE????????

[jhale667]

Which begs the question.......

THEN WHY'D YOU HAVE TO KILL THEM FIRST ASSHOLE????????


NO kidding...senseless.

[Fairwrning]

The cop had pulled someone over when the gunmen walked up and shot him..This guy is also a suspect in a robbery yesterday in Radford,..looking like a local not a student,

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-report-of-a-shooting-on-virginia-tech-campus-20111208,0,7258349.story

[sonrisa salvaje]

Isn't Blacksburg also where that girl dissappeared outside a Metallica concert and was later found dead?

[Fairwrning]

That was Charlottesville...UVA is there

[Fairwrning]

That girl was a Tech student tho...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

The cop had pulled someone over when the gunmen walked up and shot him..This guy is also a suspect in a robbery yesterday in Radford,..looking like a local not a student,

http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-report-of-a-shooting-on-virginia-tech-campus-20111208,0,7258349.story

Radford U. is #3 on my son's list of colleges, it's literally right down the street from Tech .... He doesn't have the grades for VT....

[Fairwrning]

My son is attending Radford now...started off with community college and transferred to Radford last year..saved some bucks that way

[Fairwrning]

Baseball scholarship?...full or partial?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Baseball scholarship?...full or partial?

No, doesn't look like anything is going to materialize...

So it's Longwood, VCU, Radford or ODU....

[Fairwrning]

Well..My Daughter goes to VCU...so I can tell ya a bit..she loves it..As has anybody Ive talked to that has gone there..place looks like hell but Ive gone several times to visit and have had no issues..Richmond,Va is a shithole.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Yeah, the open house was quite impressive... But you're right, go three blocks outside of campus, shithole....

[Hardrock69]

What the fuck??? Fucking goddamnable motherfuckers!!! :mad:

I hope they find the fuckstick who did this and shoot him dead! Would save taxpayers from having to foot the bill for prison, trials, etc.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

What the fuck??? Fucking goddamnable motherfuckers!!! :mad:

I hope they find the fuckstick who did this and shoot him dead! Would save taxpayers from having to foot the bill for prison, trials, etc.

The fucking fuckstick killed himself bro....

[Hardrock69]

Ahhh I see....late in getting the news. Hope it was him. :mad:

They are not sure yet though, from what they are saying (or not saying).

[Nitro Express]

Which begs the question.......

THEN WHY'D YOU HAVE TO KILL THEM FIRST ASSHOLE????????

Simple. Revenge. These people hate society and their lives are so miserable they want to end it but they want some revenge before they go. It's not rocket science.

They want to hurt someone, scare society, and get some notoriety of what they did.

A normal person isn't going to get the concept but we aren't talking normal people here.

[FORD]

Apparently this fucking fuckstick wasn't even a student, so why decided to take his gun to that campus is the question. Since the only people dead are the cop and the shooter, it sounds like a "personal" thing, though the "local authorities" are apparently denying that the dead cop and the suspect had any prior confrontation.

[LoungeMachine]

Simple. Revenge. These people hate society and their lives are so miserable they want to end it but they want some revenge before they go. It's not rocket science.

They want to hurt someone, scare society, and get some notoriety of what they did.

A normal person isn't going to get the concept but we aren't talking normal people here.


The question was rhetorical......

[Hardrock69]

Well, glad the worthless fuck killed himself. Saves us the trouble. :mad:

So sad the officer got killed though.

Today I walked out on the porch. Down on the road a car drove by and then up my neighbor's driveway. He wandered around a bit, then just hung out there around his car.
My neighbor was not home. After I called my neighbor and not getting an answer, and not seeing her vehicle at the house, I called another neighbor to get the cell phone number for the first neighbor. Just got voicemail. So I called the sheriff. They sent a couple of deputies out. They checked the guy out and drove away.

I had to go run some errands, and am at my Mom's house now. But when I got to the foot of my road, the two deputies were sitting there talking to each other. I walked up, asked about the guy (a plumber who had been doing some work at my neighbor's house apparently) and thanked them for coming out. Better safe than sorry, I said. And I took off.

Law enforcement officers will give their lives to save ours. And anyone who would kill someone who is tasked with keeping us safe deserves worse than death in my opinion.

So I am very glad the fuckstick took his own life. Fuck him.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

My son is attending Radford now...started off with community college and transferred to Radford last year..saved some bucks that way

Now if this doesn't bring it close to home....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_VATECH_OFFICER_KILLED?SITE=CAANR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

APNewsBreak: Police identify Va. Tech gunman

By BOB LEWIS and ZINIE CHEN SAMPSON
Associated Press


BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) -- Police are identifying the Virginia Tech gunman as a 22-year-old college student at nearby Radford University.

Police said Friday that Ross Truett Ashley, of Radford, was responsible for killing a Virginia Tech police officer Thursday, triggering a campus-wide lockdown for thousands of students.

Ashley killed himself after shooting the officer.

Police also say Ashley stole a car on Wednesday from a real estate office in Radford, which is about 15 miles from Virginia Tech.

The shooting shook up the campus, the scene of the nation's worst mass slaying in recent memory.

The man who killed a Virginia Tech police officer walked up to the patrolman he did not know and fired, then took off for the campus greenhouses, ditching his pullover, wool cap and backpack. He made his way to a nearby parking lot and when a deputy spotted him, he took his own life, leaving fresh questions on a campus still coping with the nation's worst mass slaying in recent memory.

Why didn't he run or engage the deputy who closed in? Was he even aware that thousands of students had just been alerted by cell phone that a gunman was on the loose and the campus was locked down? And why did he shoot an officer at a school he never attended?

"That's very much the fundamental part of the investigation right now," state police spokeswoman Corrine Geller said Friday at a news conference.

Authorities said they know who the gunman is, but they were waiting to publicly name him because they said his family didn't know yet. A law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity described the shooter as in his early 20s from Virginia.

The gunman was likely the same man who is accused of stealing a 2011 white Mercedes SUV from a real estate office Wednesday in Radford, which is about 15 miles from Virginia Tech. Office employees told police a man came in with a handgun and demanded keys to one of their vehicles.

The office is located in a gritty part of Radford and caters to students who go to the city's small namesake school. At the real estate office Friday, the shades were drawn and the doors locked.

It's not clear what happened between the robbery and 24 hours later when university officer Deriek W. Crouse, 39, was shot. Police were looking for surveillance video around campus to see if it would lend any clues to the gunman's whereabouts before the shooting.

Crouse was a trained firearms and defense instructor with a specialty in crisis intervention. He had been on the force for four years, joining about six months after 33 people were killed in a classroom building and dorm April 16, 2007.

At 12:15 p.m. Thursday, Crouse pulled over a student and was shot while sitting in his unmarked cruiser. The student didn't have any link to the gunman, Geller said.

Shortly before 12:30 p.m., police received a call from a witness who said an officer had been shot. About six minutes later, the first campus-wide alert was sent by email, text message and electronic signs in university buildings. Many students on campus were preparing for exams, and some described a frantic scene after the initial alert. Soon, heavily armed officers were walking around campus, caravans of SWAT vehicles were driving around and other police cars with emergency lights flashing patrolled nearby.

Students outdoors went inside buildings. Those already there stayed put. Everybody waited.

Police aren't sure what the gunman was doing at this point. After the shooting, he fled on foot to the greenhouses, where he left some of his clothes and his ID.

Fifteen minutes after the witness called police, a deputy sheriff on patrol noticed a man at the back of another parking lot about a half-mile from the shooting. The man was by himself, looking around furtively and acting "a little suspicious," according to Geller.

The deputy drove up and down the rows of the sprawling Cage parking lot and lost sight of the man for a moment. The deputy then found the man lying on the pavement, shot to death. The handgun was nearby.

Police said nobody witnessed the suicide, the parking lot apparently vacant because of warnings. For three more hours, students checked their phones, computers and TVs. Finally, the school gave the all clear.

The events unfolded on the same day Virginia Tech officials were in Washington, fighting a federal government fine over their handling of the 2007 massacre, and the shooting brought back painful memories. About 150 students gathered silently Thursday night for a candlelight vigil on a field facing the stone plaza memorial for the 2007 victims.

"Why Tech, why again?" said Philip Sturgill, a jewelry store owner. "It's so senseless. This is a lovely, lovely place."

An official vigil is planned Friday night.

School spokesman Larry Hincker said the alert system worked exactly as expected.

"It's fair to say that life is very different at college campuses today. The telecommunications technology and protocols that we have available to us, that we now have in place, didn't exist years ago," he said. "We believe the system worked very well."