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Hardrock69
01-27-2012, 12:04 AM
For all you racist assholes out there. Go fuck yourselves. :hee:

http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html




Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

Controversy ahead

The findings combine three hot-button topics.

"They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]

"The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."

Brains and bias

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]

In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.

Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)

As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

A study of averages

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

Simple viewpoints

Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.

kwame k
01-27-2012, 12:23 AM
Jesus Christ!

We could of saved 'em a ton of money on that study and had them just read Jag's, Elvis', and Jackoff's posts:lmao:

Nitro Express
01-27-2012, 12:30 AM
I remember talking to a guy who was an FBI agent. He said in the 60's they were quite concerned about the Ku Klux Klan because it was still a formative organization. He said today it still exists but the average member has the average intelligence of half a jelly fish.

Small minded people seem to always want a scape goat to blame their problems on. They are also easy masses to control. Lenin once called them useful idiots.

I think it applies to everyone and not just white trash trailer park rednecks. You see the same thing in the black and hispanic communities. It's what fuels that stupid gang mentality.

kwame k
01-27-2012, 12:46 AM
Small minded people seem to always want a scape goat to blame their problems on. They are also easy masses to control. Lenin once called them useful idiots.


They do entertain:lmao:

Hardrock69
01-27-2012, 03:46 AM
I have a friend who appears fairly intelligent. But this person hates black people. Period. And so this person continually posts on FB all the usual Retardlican shit.

Any MINOR thing they can grasp onto to point fingers at Obama to say "Look! Do you want HIM to lead our country?"

You try to let them know that a) Obama inherited all this shit from the last administration......like other black people for the past several hundred years....he is elected to clean up the shit left behind by the rich white fucking assholes....and b) Congress is more to blame for the country's slow movement to solve anything, because they do not see their jobs as "helping the people"....they see their job as being to "Stop Obama"....but of course pointing this stuff out is useless.

It is a waste of time to point anything out to stupid people. The Tea Party morons are the same as the fucking Occupy Whatever protesters.....they want everyone to know they are dissatisfied, but if you try to pin them down on a way to solve anything they see as wrong, they are unable to come up with a coherent process to do so.

Same as the fucking klowns who are rolling around the kuntry debating each other right now.

Except for Ron Paul.....who seems coherent and intelligent....something the Republican Party does not want.

God help them if they were to get anyone nominated who would have common sense.

This Noot Gingrich character is a REAL fucking moron. Or maybe not. He realizes that his constituency are just this side of retarded, and are an easy group to extract money from. Like any 3rd-rate televangelist...he knows he does not have to do anything but stand at a podium and make a bunch of rhetorical speeches that say absolutely nothing, and the dollars will roll in.

Hardrock69
01-27-2012, 03:51 AM
And really, Ron Paul, while perhaps the lesser of several evils, has some ideas that are a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket...

LoungeMachine
01-27-2012, 03:56 AM
I remember talking to a guy who was an FBI agent. .

:gulp:

No shit?

Seshmeister
01-27-2012, 09:05 AM
I get the impression that on average the younger you are, the less racist, education is gradually filtering through.

I bet most of our grandparents were pretty bigoted...

kwame k
01-27-2012, 09:42 AM
50% here...as far as grandparents go.

Seshmeister
01-27-2012, 11:50 AM
For me 50% of those who expressed a preference but I suspect it was higher... :)

FORD
01-27-2012, 12:22 PM
I get the impression that on average the younger you are, the less racist, education is gradually filtering through.

I bet most of our grandparents were pretty bigoted...

One of my grandfathers actually made comments about the "damn Japs" until the day he died. Often, they were completely out of context, like yelling at crows in his garden. I have no idea how he knew the crows were Japanese.

It wasn't a case of PTSD or anything like that from WWII either, because he wasn't even in the war. Just happened to be born at the right time to be too young for WWI and too old for WWII.

Pennypacker
01-27-2012, 12:31 PM
It makes me sick how the conservatives were elected a majority in May up here. (The emergence of the socialist New Democratic Party is a good sign for us left wing Harper haters) And working in retail I came across many people in May who were "sticking with what we got" and "we can't have any browns or muslim immigrants as our elected MP's, no way, let's keep it strictly Canadian". The amount of bigotry not only from the middle-aged, but younger generation as well makes me sick, especially coming from those whose parents are immigrants themselves!

FORD
01-27-2012, 12:38 PM
I was really hoping the NDP would pull out a win in that last election. I haven't followed Canadian politics closely in recent months though, so I'm not sure how the party's doing after losing their front man, Jack Layton :(

Full Bug
01-27-2012, 01:04 PM
I was really hoping the NDP would pull out a win in that last election. I haven't followed Canadian politics closely in recent months though, so I'm not sure how the party's doing after losing their front man, Jack Layton :(
They arent doing good at all, there is nobody even close who may fill Jack's shoes....If you thought the NDP might win the last election you would be dreaming big time, that ain't happening anytime soon....And the Liberals are a mess as well, its smooth sailing for Harper....

FORD
01-27-2012, 01:38 PM
That's sad news for Canada then, because Harper hasn't yet abandoned his inner Chimp, and he needs a strong opposition to keep him in check.

Warham
01-27-2012, 02:11 PM
b) Congress is more to blame for the country's slow movement to solve anything, because they do not see their jobs as "helping the people"....they see their job as being to "Stop Obama"....but of course pointing this stuff out is useless.

Actually, Harry Reid (D-Nevada) is not doing his job. Do you know how many bipartisan bills were passed by the House than haven't been taken up yet in the Senate?

FORD
01-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Harry Reid is a spineless fucking coward. If he had done his job, we might have had an ACTUAL health care bill, instead of the Romneycare clusterfuck clone that even Romney is trying to run away from.

Warham
01-27-2012, 02:29 PM
Obama doesn't even want to talk about Obamacare.

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said that you'll find out what all the goodies are after they pass the bill? You didn't have to read all 2,200 pages. All you had to do was believe Princess. Let me tell you something. When a bill is that fucking long, something's wrong.

kwame k
01-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Reid and Pelosi are two of the worst Democrats in recent times, period.

Pennypacker
01-27-2012, 02:42 PM
They arent doing good at all, there is nobody even close who may fill Jack's shoes....If you thought the NDP might win the last election you would be dreaming big time, that ain't happening anytime soon....And the Liberals are a mess as well, its smooth sailing for Harper....

Talks for an NDP-Liberal merger will be the only way to end the conservative reign in 2015.

hambon4lif
01-27-2012, 04:43 PM
I get the impression that on average the younger you are, the less racist, education is gradually filtering through.You would think so, but that's generally not the case here in the midwest. I've had far too many encounters (and more than a few altercations) with these fucking idiots. They're easy to evaluate. In less than 5 minutes you figure out they don't have a mind of their own, so they simply adopt their parents/grandparents beliefs and ideaologies....and nothing changes.
The fact that most of them quit school in the 2nd grade and impregnate their own sister certainly doesn't help their case either....

What I'm wondering is whether or not these parents even realize that filling their own childrens head with this racism bullshit is what usually gets them killed. Sometimes it seems like it's just a delayed abortion with these 'people'.......

knuckleboner
01-27-2012, 06:59 PM
Actually, Harry Reid (D-Nevada) is not doing his job. Do you know how many bipartisan bills were passed by the House than haven't been taken up yet in the Senate?

i'm curious. and, by the way, 2 blue dogs voting "yea" is questionably bipartisan.

binnie
01-27-2012, 07:28 PM
There are plenty of intelligent racists.

I think the interesting thing about prejudice is how it changes over time - younger people are prejudiced in different ways to their parents, and so on....

gbranton
01-27-2012, 07:56 PM
I remember talking to a guy who was an FBI agent. He said in the 60's they were quite concerned about the Ku Klux Klan because it was still a formative organization. He said today it still exists but the average member has the average intelligence of half a jelly fish.

Yes, they were a formative organization in the '60's.........the 1860's. Either that or it took them a long fucking time to form because they do in fact have the intellegence of half a jellyfish. There's just one small problem with the narrative in this thread and it's that after Reconstruction, when the klan (intentionally not capitalized) was formed they linched as many Republicans as blacks. That is because the kkk started out as the enforcement arm of the Democratic party. The 1924 Democratic National Convention has even come to be known as the "Klanbake" because of the strong influence the klan exerted within the party. I realize that the demographic has changed somewhat but I still see people on this area of the world that are life-long Democrats that have klan affiliations. Considering the history of the klan I don't think you can pin them to either party, you can DEFINITELY pin them to ignorance though.

I consider myself to be pretty conservative and I will line up and take an IQ or history test against almost anyone. There have been plenty of studies that say just the opposite thing or that liberals tend to base things on emotion and conservatives think in more rational terms but it's all bullshit people use to support their prejudices against those who don't share their opinions. Labeling people is always easier thatn getting to know them.

FORD
01-27-2012, 09:06 PM
Oh I don't doubt that some conservatives are intelligent. But nobody can deny that they have let the idiots speak for them for the last 30 years.

I mean there's a lot of things one could criticize about Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, but you couldn't credibly call either one stupid. Now, Chimpy, Santorum, Perry, Palin, Bachmann, Boner and the Turtle, BecKKK & Hannity??

I mean, seriously.... :biggrin:

gbranton
01-27-2012, 09:19 PM
Oh I don't doubt that some conservatives are intelligent. But nobody can deny that they have let the idiots speak for them for the last 30 years.

I mean there's a lot of things one could criticize about Bill Clinton or Barack Obama, but you couldn't credibly call either one stupid. Now, Chimpy, Santorum, Perry, Palin, Bachmann, Boner and the Turtle, BecKKK & Hannity??

I'll agree with that statement to a degree. To the degree that they represent what most people PERCEIVE to be a conservative. They certainly don't speak for me and I think this is true for a growing number of people. I don't support them in their agenda to grow the size, scope, complexity, expense and control of the Federal government. I think they are phoneys.


You certainly could make the case that Obama is a poor off the cuff speaker, something that could be perceived as a lack of intellegence.

Nickdfresh
01-28-2012, 10:19 AM
I remember talking to a guy who was an FBI agent. He said in the 60's they were quite concerned about the Ku Klux Klan because it was still a formative organization. ....

Your "FBI Agent" friend might be full of shit, as the KKK was largely crushed by the FBI in the 1930's-1950's....

ELVIS
01-28-2012, 10:29 AM
Anyone who voted for Obama because he's black is somewhat racist...

Dr. Love
01-28-2012, 11:47 AM
Reid and Pelosi are two of the worst Democrats in recent times, period.

You forgot one...

kwame k
01-28-2012, 11:59 AM
Carl Levin?

ELVIS
01-28-2012, 12:06 PM
I think he means this guy...

http://www.funnyobamas.com/pictures/Obama_Bowling_Alley902.jpg


:elvis:

kwame k
01-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Nah, he meant Carl Levin.......

Dr. Love
01-28-2012, 12:26 PM
Maybe I should have said you missed a few dozen...

kwame k
01-28-2012, 01:04 PM
It'd be easier to say who we like.....in both parties;)

hambon4lif
02-03-2012, 05:30 PM
"Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world"


Damn!!
:lmao:

Unchainme
02-03-2012, 07:33 PM
Is this why joe thunder got his ass bitchslapped all over the board for about 4 years? :D

FORD
02-03-2012, 07:39 PM
Thunder got bitchslapped because he was a 500 lb Latino working as a hip-hop DJ/producer and pretending to be a Klansman online.

hambon4lif
02-03-2012, 07:41 PM
Joey was a racist?!?
Who the hell was he hatin' on? Jenny Craig?

Unchainme
02-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Joey was a racist?!?
Who the hell was he hatin' on? Jenny Craig?

all the time he'd post racist shit

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?15443-Hector-Camacho-arrested-for-burglary.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?15815-So-What-The-Fuck-Is-Everyone-Doing-For-MLK-Day&daysprune=-1

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?8926-Tony-Gwynn-has-this-job-because-he-s-black&highlight=gwynn

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?8767-NFL-Hall-of-Fame&postid=161084#post161084

Pennypacker
02-05-2012, 12:15 PM
Oh boy is that Fuckgoof Harper taking serious slack from the senile, barely vertical conservatives that voted him a majority in May over the changes to the Old Age Security Program.